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- 0:00Speaker 1: Welcomed episode two hundred and sixty two, The Death of
- 0:03Speaker 1: Journalism podcast. My name is John Zigler. I'm your host
- 0:06Speaker 1: on today's show. Illegal immigration is literally dividing the country.
- 0:10Speaker 1: More signs Trump really thinks he is a king, a
- 0:13Speaker 1: major change in leadership at CBS News. Have Taylor Swift
- 0:18Speaker 1: and the Kansas City Chiefs both suddenly finally run out
- 0:20Speaker 1: of gas. NFL announcer Mark Sanchez ends his career in
- 0:25Speaker 1: bizarre fashion. Plus updates on a bunch of compelling stories
- 0:29Speaker 1: that we have discussed recently, including the latest appeal by
- 0:33Speaker 1: Jerry Sandusky and the impending end of tackle football. As
- 0:40Speaker 1: we tape this podcast, there is no sign that the
- 0:43Speaker 1: partial federal government shutdown is going to end anytime soon.
- 0:49Speaker 1: And basically what we have so far is a situation
- 0:52Speaker 1: where what if they had a government shut down and
- 0:55Speaker 1: no one seemed to really give a damn. Other than
- 0:59Speaker 1: some flight camp installations and delays in several prominent airports
- 1:04Speaker 1: across the country, there has been no real discernible impact
- 1:08Speaker 1: on real life as of yet, and it appears as if,
- 1:12Speaker 1: and this is very unusual given the history of shutdowns,
- 1:16Speaker 1: It appears as if Republicans and Donald Trump are currently
- 1:20Speaker 1: winning the narrative battle because they've been able to I
- 1:23Speaker 1: think rightfully pinpoint that a large part of this showdown,
- 1:29Speaker 1: this shutdown, this stalemate is over the issue of healthcare
- 1:33Speaker 1: for illegal aliens. Now, it's a complex issue, but I
- 1:37Speaker 1: actually do think Republicans in the real world are in
- 1:41Speaker 1: the right on this, and I think it appears as
- 1:44Speaker 1: if they're winning the narrative, which is why they're in
- 1:47Speaker 1: no hurry to end the shutdown. Now. Hopefully eventually it
- 1:50Speaker 1: will get resolved, but as of right now, there's no
- 1:53Speaker 1: end in sight.
- 1:55Speaker 2: Now.
- 1:55Speaker 1: The issue of illegal immigration is rearing its head on
- 1:59Speaker 1: multiple fronts, one of which is this battle over ice
- 2:04Speaker 1: and the fault lines that have really been exposed and
- 2:08Speaker 1: exacerbated in this Republic of the United States of America.
- 2:13Speaker 1: And I have talked often about how concerned I am
- 2:17Speaker 1: that we're going to be able to maintain ourselves as
- 2:20Speaker 1: the United States of America as we approach our two
- 2:23Speaker 1: hundred and fiftieth anniversary of the Declaration of Independence next year,
- 2:27Speaker 1: and how the Blue States and the Red States are
- 2:30Speaker 1: incredibly divided, increasingly so, and what we're seeing here with
- 2:36Speaker 1: this battle over the use of the National Guard, and
- 2:39Speaker 1: Trump's efforts in Portland and Chicago and California, and the
- 2:46Speaker 1: effort to try to protect Ice and allow Ice to
- 2:49Speaker 1: do what they're supposed to do. And how we have
- 2:53Speaker 1: seen liberal politicians in blue states simply oppose the federal government,
- 3:00Speaker 1: openly bragging about it, the Chicago mayor Brandon Johnson declaring
- 3:06Speaker 1: that he believes that the right wing in this country
- 3:08Speaker 1: wants a rematch of the Civil War. And what we
- 3:11Speaker 1: have here is blue states and blue state politicians where
- 3:16Speaker 1: they are free to be in favor of illegal immigrants
- 3:21Speaker 1: and against any enforcement of illegal immigration because of the
- 3:25Speaker 1: nature of their voter base and their chosen judges going
- 3:31Speaker 1: up against Red states and eventually presumably the United States
- 3:37Speaker 1: Supreme Court. And in the short run, the Blue states
- 3:41Speaker 1: win all these battles because they get to pick their
- 3:44Speaker 1: own super liberal judges who make these sometimes insane rulings
- 3:49Speaker 1: against the Trump administration, many of which end up getting reversed.
- 3:53Speaker 1: But it takes time to go through the system, and
- 3:56Speaker 1: it takes a long time to get to the Supreme Court.
- 3:58Speaker 1: But there's no ramification, there's no accountability for the blue
- 4:04Speaker 1: state politicians who are openly defying the Trump administration and
- 4:09Speaker 1: the federal government. And look, you can disagree, and some
- 4:12Speaker 1: of these legal issues are important, and I'm not detigrating them,
- 4:16Speaker 1: I'm not discounting them.
- 4:18Speaker 2: I understand that this is.
- 4:20Speaker 1: Not totally clear cut. But the far bigger issue than
- 4:24Speaker 1: the legal ease over what the presidential authority is or
- 4:28Speaker 1: is not, is that we are seeing increasingly openly, brazenly
- 4:34Speaker 1: states that are blue just pretending as if they're not
- 4:38Speaker 1: really part of the United States of America. I talked
- 4:41Speaker 1: about this extensively a month or two ago when we
- 4:45Speaker 1: were having these alleged illegal immigration raids in southern California
- 4:49Speaker 1: where I live, which I think were greatly overblown in
- 4:52Speaker 1: the media. But I played a clip of a Los
- 4:56Speaker 1: Angeles City council woman who was questioning the LAPD police
- 5:02Speaker 1: chief and basically telling the police chief that they should
- 5:06Speaker 1: not consider themselves part of the United States of America.
- 5:10Speaker 1: That's a paraphrase, but I don't think that's an inaccurate
- 5:13Speaker 1: paraphrase of what happened. And this is happening more and
- 5:17Speaker 1: more and more and more openly, more and more brazenly,
- 5:22Speaker 1: and it's really problematic. And I think this goes way
- 5:25Speaker 1: beyond the issues of ICE, of the National Guard and
- 5:28Speaker 1: the illegal immigration. This goes fundamentally to who we are
- 5:32Speaker 1: as a country, and we're seeing it play out in
- 5:35Speaker 1: real time, and it's so obvious that this is where
- 5:38Speaker 1: we're headed. We are headed for a divorce. You cannot
- 5:41Speaker 1: exist as the United States of America when it is
- 5:45Speaker 1: so clear cut. This is not just disagreements. This is
- 5:48Speaker 1: an issue over who has the authority to do what
- 5:52Speaker 1: and to enforce the law, and whether or not we
- 5:55Speaker 1: even have.
- 5:55Speaker 2: Such a thing as citizenship.
- 5:57Speaker 1: I mean, that's can't get more basic than that, do
- 6:00Speaker 1: we have citizenship in this country or not? And in
- 6:03Speaker 1: the Blue States the answer is clearly no. The Red
- 6:07Speaker 1: States it's clearly yes. And so to me, I think
- 6:12Speaker 1: the far larger, more significant issue in the big picture,
- 6:16Speaker 1: in the long run, is what this says about the
- 6:19Speaker 1: fractures in our republic, in our union, much more so
- 6:23Speaker 1: than the intricacies of the law and the battle over
- 6:28Speaker 1: who has the authority to call the National Guard and
- 6:33Speaker 1: what the role of ICE is. To me, that's all
- 6:35Speaker 1: somewhat insignificant in comparison to the big issue. But the
- 6:39Speaker 1: issue of illegal immigration clearly is significant in all this,
- 6:43Speaker 1: and we've had a situation that I'm not yet commented
- 6:46Speaker 1: on on this podcast that is really extraordinary on so
- 6:51Speaker 1: many different levels that clearly relates to the issue of
- 6:54Speaker 1: illegal immigration. And that is this bizarre tale involving the
- 6:59Speaker 1: now former superintendent of Des Moines, Iowa schools. And I'm
- 7:05Speaker 1: guessing most people listen to this podcast are aware of
- 7:07Speaker 1: this story, but if you're not, this is bonkers, even
- 7:11Speaker 1: by the standards of twenty twenty five. So there was
- 7:15Speaker 1: this guy named Ian Roberts who happened to be, although
- 7:19Speaker 1: it's not a coincidence, an African American man who was
- 7:24Speaker 1: the superintendent of Des Moines Public Schools, making at least
- 7:29Speaker 1: three hundred thousand dollars a year, and he was arrested
- 7:34Speaker 1: by Ice because it turned out he was an illegal immigrant.
- 7:39Speaker 1: But it wasn't just that he was an illegal immigrant.
- 7:43Speaker 1: When he was arrested, he had thousands of dollars in
- 7:47Speaker 1: cash and a firearm and a knife on him. He
- 7:50Speaker 1: lied about his education. His official bio said he completed
- 7:54Speaker 1: programs at Morgan State, but Morgan State said no. Roberts
- 7:58Speaker 1: did not receive any degree or certificate from Morgan State University.
- 8:03Speaker 1: He went by the heading or the title of doctor.
- 8:08Speaker 1: He never got a doctorate degree. He's an illegal alien,
- 8:13Speaker 1: but he had a driver's license, is registered to vote
- 8:16Speaker 1: and had a voting record. He refused to answer where
- 8:20Speaker 1: he was born, his country of origin, and he used
- 8:25Speaker 1: multiple birthdays in multiple states. And this guy somehow became
- 8:30Speaker 1: the superintendent of Des Moines, Iowa schools. It's just you
- 8:36Speaker 1: can't make this shit up. I mean, and let's be clear.
- 8:40Speaker 1: Let's be clear why this happened. When this happened, because
- 8:44Speaker 1: academia is totally broken. But the main reason is because
- 8:48Speaker 1: Roberts is a good looking black guy. And being a
- 8:52Speaker 1: good looking black guy in liberal academia, even in Iowa,
- 8:57Speaker 1: is kryptonite for everyone around this person. No one is
- 9:01Speaker 1: going to question a good looking black guy in academia.
- 9:06Speaker 2: They're not going to do it.
- 9:07Speaker 1: If they speak well, they look good, they're a black guy.
- 9:10Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, this is awesome. And any concerns we have,
- 9:14Speaker 1: any red flags that come up, we're just going to
- 9:17Speaker 1: ignore them, or we're going to be terrified of bringing
- 9:21Speaker 1: them up because if your suspicions are wrong, you're done.
- 9:27Speaker 1: You're a racist.
- 9:28Speaker 2: It's over.
- 9:29Speaker 1: So no one is going to bring up any sort
- 9:32Speaker 1: of concerns. No one's going to vet this kind of
- 9:35Speaker 1: a person. And this is the reality of actual, real life.
- 9:42Speaker 1: This goes way beyond this isolated circumstance involving the superintendent
- 9:47Speaker 1: of Des Moines Schools. And I've seen it in my
- 9:52Speaker 1: own experience. Not directly my own experience, but people in
- 9:55Speaker 1: my orbit have talked about very similar situations. I have
- 9:59Speaker 1: a lot of family members, including my wife, who are
- 10:02Speaker 1: school teachers. I've even referenced on this podcast previously that
- 10:07Speaker 1: there is a black male in southern California who is
- 10:13Speaker 1: basically going around year to year, hopping from school to
- 10:16Speaker 1: school as a principal. Not quite as superintendent, but a
- 10:20Speaker 1: principal is a pretty big deal. And this is not
- 10:23Speaker 1: an exaggeration. They hop around from school to school as
- 10:28Speaker 1: a principal, and they do not show up for their job.
- 10:34Speaker 1: And that's, by the way, at best, because there's some
- 10:36Speaker 1: concerns that they might be up to some behavior that's
- 10:41Speaker 1: highly inappropriate. At best, I'll just leave it at that
- 10:44Speaker 1: because I don't want to get anyone in trouble. So
- 10:46Speaker 1: at best, at best, this person does not show up
- 10:49Speaker 1: for their job. And I'm not exaggerating. They don't show
- 10:52Speaker 1: up well over fifty percent of the time, and they
- 10:57Speaker 1: just keep getting rehired and rehired. As principle, they just
- 11:00Speaker 1: get shuffled along. Ironically, one year they got put into
- 11:05Speaker 1: a DEI program. They couldn't even hack it in the
- 11:08Speaker 1: DEI program, even though they're literally the ultimate DEI higher
- 11:13Speaker 1: and the superpower is blackmail, so no one's gonna question it,
- 11:19Speaker 1: no one. You know, you can't fire the person, and
- 11:23Speaker 1: they're always going to get hired because there is such
- 11:26Speaker 1: a desire among liberal academia to have someone like that succeed.
- 11:32Speaker 1: It's the ultimate virtue signal. We've got a blackmail principle
- 11:36Speaker 1: or we got a blackmail superintendent, doesn't matter that they're
- 11:39Speaker 1: a freaking illegal alien who's lied about their entire background.
- 11:45Speaker 1: So to me, that story was so telling on so
- 11:48Speaker 1: many levels, really having not that much to do with
- 11:51Speaker 1: illegal immigration. Now I want to shift gears to President Trump.
- 11:56Speaker 1: We talk a lot about President Trump on this podcast,
- 11:59Speaker 1: and I try so hard to be fair to Trump,
- 12:02Speaker 1: but I'm really getting tired. I'm really getting tired of
- 12:06Speaker 1: a lot of Trump's antics. I think we're heading in
- 12:09Speaker 1: a very dangerous direction with a lot of this stuff.
- 12:13Speaker 1: My greatest concern about a second Trump term was that
- 12:18Speaker 1: he would be a king, that his cult would see
- 12:22Speaker 1: him as this king like figure, godlike figure, no one
- 12:27Speaker 1: would ever tell him no, all of his worst impulses
- 12:31Speaker 1: would come to fruition, and unfortunately, I think we're seeing.
- 12:34Speaker 2: A lot of that.
- 12:35Speaker 1: There's several stories that have occurred in the last week
- 12:38Speaker 1: that I think back up that fear. But I want
- 12:40Speaker 1: to start my discussion on this episode about Trump with
- 12:44Speaker 1: something that happened involving the Epstein case, and that is
- 12:48Speaker 1: that Glainne Maxwell, who was convicted in federal court of
- 12:52Speaker 1: essentially enabling Epstein's crimes, engaging in sex trafficking on his
- 12:57Speaker 1: behalf and allegedly of others, although none of those others
- 13:01Speaker 1: wherever actually mentioned. And I've said many times that I
- 13:06Speaker 1: don't know whether or not Glene Maxwell was actually guilty
- 13:09Speaker 1: of the essence of what she was accused of, but
- 13:12Speaker 1: I do know that her trial was a complete and
- 13:15Speaker 1: total joke. And we had Michael Tracy on this program
- 13:20Speaker 1: in two different parts a couple of weeks ago, and
- 13:22Speaker 1: I think he backed that assertion up with a lot
- 13:26Speaker 1: of good facts and analysis, and so Maxwell has been
- 13:31Speaker 1: appealing this bogus conviction. Again, I want to make clear,
- 13:34Speaker 1: as I've said one hundred times, Epstein guilty. I'm not
- 13:38Speaker 1: sure about Maxwell's guilt. I'm positive her trial was a joke,
- 13:42Speaker 1: and she has been appealing, and she appealed her case
- 13:46Speaker 1: to the US Supreme Court, and the US Supreme Court
- 13:49Speaker 1: refused to take the case. Now, I have no idea
- 13:53Speaker 1: about the legalities and the legitimacy of her appeal. From
- 13:58Speaker 1: that perspective, it's a complex argument. It wasn't an argument
- 14:02Speaker 1: of innocence. It was an argument of dealing with the
- 14:05Speaker 1: plea deal that Epstein had been given and whether or
- 14:08Speaker 1: not that might have basically polluted the case against Maxwell.
- 14:14Speaker 1: I'm paraphrasing. But the US Supreme Court decided they weren't
- 14:17Speaker 1: going to take it. Now, I don't know if they
- 14:18Speaker 1: didn't take it because the appeal had no legal merit,
- 14:23Speaker 1: or whether they just didn't want to touch this hot potato,
- 14:26Speaker 1: or maybe a little bit of both. But regardless, Maxwell's
- 14:29Speaker 1: appeal was not taken by the US Supreme Court. So,
- 14:32Speaker 1: as you might expect, Trump was asked about this, and
- 14:36Speaker 1: he was asked about this by Caitlin Collins of CNN,
- 14:40Speaker 1: and the reason I'm playing this clip really is very
- 14:44Speaker 1: little to do with the Epstein situation, which we have
- 14:48Speaker 1: obviously covered quite a bit on this podcast. I probably
- 14:51Speaker 1: would at least mention this regardless of Trump's response. But
- 14:56Speaker 1: one of the other problems I always had with a
- 14:58Speaker 1: second Trump term is that this is a guy who
- 15:02Speaker 1: is approaching eighty years old.
- 15:03Speaker 2: He's going to be eighty very soon.
- 15:06Speaker 1: And we saw what happened with Joe Biden once he
- 15:09Speaker 1: got into his eighties, and he fell off a cliff mentally.
- 15:15Speaker 1: And I have the same concern, not because of any
- 15:19Speaker 1: anti Trump biases, because I've spent a lot of time
- 15:23Speaker 1: around very successful men, very busy men in their eighties,
- 15:28Speaker 1: and inevitably they hit a wall. Now sometimes it's eighties,
- 15:33Speaker 1: sometimes it's at eighty three, sometimes it's eighty five. Usually
- 15:37Speaker 1: it's not much further than that, but they hit a
- 15:40Speaker 1: wall and they start to degrade mentally. And I have noticed,
- 15:47Speaker 1: and I've not been in the camp of a lot
- 15:48Speaker 1: of people who are saying, oh my god, Trump has
- 15:50Speaker 1: lost his mind, because with Trump, it's very very difficult
- 15:53Speaker 1: to discern, you know, what is him joking what is
- 15:57Speaker 1: him just being Trump? What's him not being very smart?
- 16:03Speaker 2: It's there's a.
- 16:04Speaker 1: Lot of potential explanations for things that when it came
- 16:07Speaker 1: to Biden, you go, oh my god, he's losing his mind.
- 16:10Speaker 1: So it's much more difficult with Trump. He's a he's
- 16:13Speaker 1: a very slippery soap, not slope a soap, you know,
- 16:17Speaker 1: slippery bar of soap. It's very difficult to pick up
- 16:20Speaker 1: because there's always a plausible denialbility factor when it comes
- 16:25Speaker 1: to Trump and his mental acuity. He has a lot
- 16:27Speaker 1: of excuses. Oh, he's joking or you know whatever.
- 16:30Speaker 2: I mean.
- 16:31Speaker 1: There's all sorts of reasons people can come up with
- 16:35Speaker 1: for why this is not an indication that Trump is
- 16:38Speaker 1: starting to lose it mentally. And it's important to point
- 16:41Speaker 1: out the clip about the play comes in the context
- 16:45Speaker 1: of the I think it was the day before most
- 16:48Speaker 1: two days before Trump made a speech in which he
- 16:53Speaker 1: went on this rant about Osama bin Laden and how
- 16:58Speaker 1: he deserves credit for at least partially credit get credit
- 17:03Speaker 1: for capturing Osama bin Laden because he warned about bin
- 17:07Speaker 1: Laden a year before nine to eleven. Even references telling
- 17:11Speaker 1: he'd hegseth or about this. Although that might have been
- 17:15Speaker 1: something that was taken out of context, which is another
- 17:19Speaker 1: example of how it's very difficult to nail Trump down
- 17:22Speaker 1: on this because he speaks so poorly at times. You
- 17:25Speaker 1: don't know, does he mean that he just told Hegseth
- 17:28Speaker 1: about this story recently, or did he tell Hegseth about
- 17:31Speaker 1: this story twenty five years ago when Hegseth would have
- 17:34Speaker 1: been like in college. You never know for sure. But
- 17:38Speaker 1: the point is that Trump went on this rant that
- 17:41Speaker 1: he deserves credit for the capture of Osama bin Laden
- 17:43Speaker 1: because no one else was ever talking about Osama bin Laden,
- 17:46Speaker 1: and he wrote about it a year in advance. Now
- 17:48Speaker 1: I've not seen any evidence of that. It's possible that
- 17:51Speaker 1: that's the case.
- 17:52Speaker 2: I don't know. That's not even the point.
- 17:54Speaker 1: The point is that Osama bin Laden was well known
- 17:57Speaker 1: as a threat to the United States for many years
- 18:00Speaker 1: before nine to eleven. I mean, my best friend in
- 18:03Speaker 1: the world, Cyrus d Usta, made a movie for ABC
- 18:06Speaker 1: called The Path to nine to eleven, which basically tells
- 18:09Speaker 1: the story of essentially almost ten years that led up
- 18:14Speaker 1: to nine to eleven, where bin Laden was central to
- 18:17Speaker 1: that entire narrative. I mean, there was a previous World
- 18:21Speaker 1: Trade Center bombing during the Clinton administration early in the
- 18:24Speaker 1: Clinton administration. You know, as a New Yorker, Trump should
- 18:27Speaker 1: know about this. But the point is that rant was
- 18:31Speaker 1: so bizarre, even by Trump's standards, that it made me think, Okay,
- 18:36Speaker 1: is this narrative that is really only gaining traction left
- 18:40Speaker 1: that Trump is starting to lose his mind?
- 18:42Speaker 2: Is there something to this?
- 18:44Speaker 1: And I'm very hesitant to accept this because I think
- 18:47Speaker 1: Trump generally is sharp.
- 18:48Speaker 2: But I think he's still at his best.
- 18:51Speaker 1: He can be funny, and obviously with his fans, he's
- 18:55Speaker 1: a very effective communicator. So We're nowhere shaped no way,
- 18:59Speaker 1: shape or form we in biden Land with regard to
- 19:03Speaker 1: Trump's declining mental acuity, at least not yet. But his
- 19:08Speaker 1: response to Caitlin Collins, I was disturbed by because here
- 19:14Speaker 1: he is in the Oval office, it's in a press conference.
- 19:18Speaker 1: This is not a situation where he's not expecting questions,
- 19:21Speaker 1: or if it's outside and he can't hear things because
- 19:24Speaker 1: a helicopter or wind or whatever. This is an environment
- 19:29Speaker 1: that is very conducive to Trump understanding.
- 19:32Speaker 2: What's going on.
- 19:33Speaker 1: The question is very straightforward. It's about a US Supreme
- 19:37Speaker 1: court case involving a character who is central to one
- 19:42Speaker 1: of the biggest controversies of the entire year that has
- 19:46Speaker 1: been a massive issue for his administration. Now I don't
- 19:50Speaker 1: think it should be because I think it's way overblown.
- 19:52Speaker 1: I don't think Trump had anything to do with this.
- 19:54Speaker 1: I don't think there's anything in the Epstein files that's
- 19:56Speaker 1: credible that implicates anybody other than Jeffrey Epstein. But regardless,
- 20:03Speaker 1: the perception is this is a massive news story, and
- 20:08Speaker 1: the person he's being asked about, Glenn Maxwell, is a
- 20:12Speaker 1: former friend of his, about whom he has been asked
- 20:16Speaker 1: many times. And if you don't believe that they were
- 20:20Speaker 1: formerly friends, I actually think that there's an argument that
- 20:23Speaker 1: Maxwell was at least as close to Trump, if not
- 20:26Speaker 1: closer than Trump, than Epstein was. In fact, it's logical
- 20:31Speaker 1: to me that Maxwell was the conduit between Trump and Epstein.
- 20:36Speaker 1: At least as many pictures online of Maxwell alone with
- 20:41Speaker 1: Trump at different events than there are of Trump and Epstein,
- 20:46Speaker 1: and it's clear that they had a rapport a friendship.
- 20:49Speaker 1: There's one event where there appears to be some sort
- 20:53Speaker 1: of you know, design design event, a beauty pageant type
- 20:59Speaker 1: of deal, where they're sitting next to each other with
- 21:02Speaker 1: no one else with them. So the point here is
- 21:06Speaker 1: he's being asked about a major news story and the
- 21:10Speaker 1: central figure is someone who is a friend of his
- 21:13Speaker 1: and a US Supreme Court ruling. Now I get he's
- 21:16Speaker 1: a busy guy. He may not have heard about the
- 21:18Speaker 1: US Supreme Court ruling that I'm going to give Trump
- 21:21Speaker 1: wide latitude on. But it is obvious when you listen
- 21:26Speaker 1: to this clip that at least for the first portion
- 21:29Speaker 1: of the answer, he does not know who Gleane Maxwell is.
- 21:34Speaker 1: Even says I haven't heard that name in quite a while,
- 21:37Speaker 1: which is just preposterous. It's like saying you haven't heard
- 21:43Speaker 1: the name Taylor Swift in quite a while. It's absurd
- 21:48Speaker 1: And to me, I don't think you see this is
- 21:50Speaker 1: where oh he's just he's playing he's trolling. No, he's
- 21:54Speaker 1: not playing controlling here, He's trying to figure out what
- 21:58Speaker 1: Caitlyn Collins is asking him. And then he references because
- 22:03Speaker 1: he's asked about giving her a pardon, and he says
- 22:06Speaker 1: something to the effect that he may you have to
- 22:09Speaker 1: think about it. But that got completely taken out of
- 22:12Speaker 1: context because in my opinion, he doesn't even know who
- 22:16Speaker 1: the hell Khlaiyne Maxwell is. He doesn't even understand what
- 22:20Speaker 1: the question is. He's just giving a very generic answer.
- 22:23Speaker 1: Because this happens all the time when Trumps asked about pardons,
- 22:28Speaker 1: because sometimes there might be a case where he actually
- 22:31Speaker 1: finds it compelling and he wants to take a look
- 22:33Speaker 1: out at it, which I guess is a positive, right.
- 22:36Speaker 1: I mean, he wants to find out the facts, but
- 22:38Speaker 1: in this particular case, he should probably already know the facts,
- 22:42Speaker 1: given the incredibly large nature of the story and his
- 22:46Speaker 1: personal connection to Maxwell. Anyway, without further ado, here's what
- 22:50Speaker 1: happened when Trump was asked about potentially pardon Glange Maxwell.
- 22:56Speaker 1: And you know, you could be the judge for yourself.
- 22:59Speaker 1: But to me, this is a situation where we're darn
- 23:02Speaker 1: close to biden Land because Trump does not have any
- 23:05Speaker 1: idea what the hell he's talking about.
- 23:08Speaker 3: The Supreme Court is back and yeah, and they rejected today.
- 23:11Speaker 3: I don't appeal by Blayne Maxwell to overturn her conviction.
- 23:15Speaker 1: That means her only chance of getting out of prison
- 23:17Speaker 1: is a pardon from you.
- 23:18Speaker 3: Is that something you're who are we talking about? Billaine Maxwell?
- 23:23Speaker 3: You know, I haven't heard the name in so long
- 23:25Speaker 3: I can say this that I'd have to take a
- 23:27Speaker 3: look at it. I would have to take a look.
- 23:29Speaker 3: Did they reject that she.
- 23:31Speaker 1: Wanted to appeal her conviction, said that they were not
- 23:33Speaker 1: going to hear her appeal.
- 23:35Speaker 3: I see, well, I'll take a look at it. I'll speak,
- 23:37Speaker 3: I will speak to the DJ. I wouldn't consider it
- 23:40Speaker 3: or not considered. I don't know anything about it, so
- 23:42Speaker 3: but I'll speak. I will speak to the I don't know.
- 23:47Speaker 3: I mean, i'd have to speak to the DJ. I'll
- 23:49Speaker 3: look at it. I'll I have a lot of people
- 23:51Speaker 3: have asked me for pardons. I call him puff Daddy
- 23:55Speaker 3: has asked me for a pardon, and she was convicted
- 23:57Speaker 3: of child sex trafficking. Yeah, I mean, I'm going to
- 24:00Speaker 3: have to take a look at it, and I have
- 24:01Speaker 3: to answer, DOJ. I didn't know they rejected it. I
- 24:04Speaker 3: didn't know she was even asking for it.
- 24:06Speaker 1: Frankly, now you may think I'm overreacting to that clip.
- 24:12Speaker 1: I don't think I am, because this is a situation
- 24:16Speaker 1: where Trump should not have any concerns or worries about
- 24:21Speaker 1: having a coherent answer. And to me, he had no
- 24:27Speaker 1: idea what the subject was. He was just trying to
- 24:30Speaker 1: get through the answer and give as generic a response
- 24:34Speaker 1: as possible. There were many people in the media who
- 24:38Speaker 1: pretended that that meant that he is considering a pardon
- 24:42Speaker 1: for Glainne Maxwell. I don't think that's the case at all.
- 24:45Speaker 1: I don't think there's any chance Glainne Maxwell gets a pardon,
- 24:48Speaker 1: even though I think she actually deserves one because her
- 24:51Speaker 1: trial was a complete joke. I think the only chance
- 24:54Speaker 1: she has is if Trump decides someone reminds him who
- 24:58Speaker 1: she was, and he looks into the case and on
- 25:02Speaker 1: his last day at office, then maybe he could pardon
- 25:06Speaker 1: Gleainne Maxwell. But he's not going to do it anytime soon,
- 25:10Speaker 1: that's for damn sure. But it was concerning to me
- 25:13Speaker 1: that he didn't seem to have any understanding of who
- 25:17Speaker 1: she was. He clearly had no idea about the Supreme
- 25:19Speaker 1: Court case, which, again, being president, he's not going to
- 25:23Speaker 1: know everything's happening in the Supreme Court immediately. I get that,
- 25:27Speaker 1: but I just think I don't want to overstate this.
- 25:30Speaker 1: Maybe I already have, but I think we're seeing signs
- 25:35Speaker 1: as Trump is about to hit eighty that we're going
- 25:38Speaker 1: to have a mental acuity problem. Going forward, and we
- 25:41Speaker 1: may already have it, and it really hasn't very little
- 25:44Speaker 1: to do with Trump. It's just basic human reality that
- 25:49Speaker 1: men in their eighties start to lose it, especially when
- 25:53Speaker 1: they're an off under an awful lot of stress, and
- 25:56Speaker 1: they're extremely busy, and they have a lot of things
- 25:58Speaker 1: that they have to remember and keep in mind, and
- 26:03Speaker 1: they're being pulled in a million different directions. Highly unusual
- 26:06Speaker 1: for people in their eighties. But when it happens to me,
- 26:10Speaker 1: you know, bad things are going to occur because you're
- 26:13Speaker 1: not going to be able to maintain your mental acuity.
- 26:16Speaker 2: Well into your eighties.
- 26:18Speaker 1: And I think we're starting to see signs of that now.
- 26:20Speaker 1: How much of that concern and how real it is?
- 26:26Speaker 1: You know?
- 26:27Speaker 2: Maybe I'm right?
- 26:28Speaker 1: And is that impacting other aspects of his presidency already?
- 26:32Speaker 1: Is that an explanation for why we're seeing a lot
- 26:34Speaker 1: of crazy things? I'm not sure. I actually think a
- 26:39Speaker 1: lot of the crazy things we're seeing are just basically
- 26:42Speaker 1: Trump's natural personality not being restricted by anyone around him,
- 26:47Speaker 1: because he is essentially acting as and being seen as
- 26:52Speaker 1: a king, no one around him will tell him no,
- 26:57Speaker 1: and in a second term, not having to worryorry about reelection.
- 27:01Speaker 1: Hopefully Trump feels free to do whatever he can get
- 27:05Speaker 1: away with, and because no one in his inner circle
- 27:08Speaker 1: will even think about telling him no, he can get
- 27:11Speaker 1: away with anything. And we've seen it with all sorts
- 27:13Speaker 1: of crazy social media posts. But there's several stories I
- 27:17Speaker 1: want to just go through very quickly, which to me,
- 27:21Speaker 1: if this was a Democrat, every right wing media personality
- 27:26Speaker 1: would be talking about how we have a monarchy, how
- 27:29Speaker 1: our president thinks that they are a king, how they
- 27:32Speaker 1: are way exceeding their authority as president of the United States.
- 27:36Speaker 1: And instead we've gotten crickets on all of these stories.
- 27:41Speaker 1: And I'm not going to blabor any of them. I'm
- 27:42Speaker 1: just going to go through them real quick. Trump put
- 27:45Speaker 1: out a social media post about Al Sharpton, as if
- 27:49Speaker 1: anyone gives a fuck about Al Sharpton these days. But
- 27:52Speaker 1: you know, Al Sharpton bothers Donald Trump because Al Sharpton,
- 27:56Speaker 1: I guess, according to Trump, back in the old days,
- 27:59Speaker 1: pretended to be a Trump fan. Now, of course you
- 28:02Speaker 1: know he's super liberal. He's got a show on MSNBC.
- 28:07Speaker 1: It's got bad ratings according to Trump, which I have
- 28:10Speaker 1: no problem believing. He writes that he has one of
- 28:14Speaker 1: the lowest rated shows in television history, and he says
- 28:18Speaker 1: that Universal NBC Brian Roberts, the chairman, is afraid to
- 28:22Speaker 1: take him off the air because it wouldn't be politically correct.
- 28:25Speaker 2: I have no problem believing that one hundred percent.
- 28:28Speaker 1: They like the fact that they have a Blackmaile celebrity
- 28:31Speaker 1: on their air who's a liberal, So I'm quite sure
- 28:35Speaker 1: that he's being treated differently than everybody else. So I'm
- 28:38Speaker 1: totally fine with everything that Trump has said, even though
- 28:40Speaker 1: it's probably not appropriate for normal president of the United
- 28:44Speaker 1: States to be posting about publicly, but okay, this is Trump.
- 28:48Speaker 1: Then Trump writes, this is just one of the many
- 28:52Speaker 1: reasons that the Federal Communication Commission should look into the
- 28:57Speaker 1: license of NBC, which shows almost exclusively positive Democrat content. Likewise,
- 29:06Speaker 1: ABC fake news about the same thing, ninety seven percent
- 29:11Speaker 1: negative to Republicans. And that's a line that no president
- 29:17Speaker 1: should ever cross, especially under these circumstances that Trump clearly
- 29:21Speaker 1: had no hesitation to cross, because he's already done so
- 29:25Speaker 1: when it comes to the entire Jimmy Kimmel mess, and
- 29:28Speaker 1: that is using the Federal Communications Commission to threaten media outlets,
- 29:33Speaker 1: in this case, trying to get them to do a
- 29:36Speaker 1: Jimmy Kimmel. Well that got reversed and fire a media
- 29:41Speaker 1: personality because you don't like what they say. That is
- 29:46Speaker 1: so absurd, so wrong. And yet this got zero attention
- 29:50Speaker 1: because we're so damn desensitized to all of this Trump insanity,
- 29:55Speaker 1: and nobody in the right wing media will say anything
- 29:57Speaker 1: about this. But if a Democrat president ever said, hey,
- 30:01Speaker 1: you know what, there's somebody on Fox News I really
- 30:04Speaker 1: hate and I think that the Fox affiliates across the
- 30:06Speaker 1: country should have their licenses looked at by the Federal
- 30:10Speaker 1: Communication Commission, people would rightfully be running around with their
- 30:14Speaker 1: hair on fire. But with Trump, nothing crickets. But that's
- 30:20Speaker 1: just one of several stories that are very king like
- 30:23Speaker 1: that have occurred in the last week. Maybe the most
- 30:26Speaker 1: king like story, and to me, potentially the most offensive,
- 30:31Speaker 1: is that the US Treasury confirmed that there are coins
- 30:38Speaker 1: being considered to celebrate America's two hundred and fiftieth birthday
- 30:43Speaker 1: that are actual currency one dollar coins that have depicted
- 30:50Speaker 1: on them on both sides of the coin. Donald Trump.
- 30:54Speaker 1: One is a profile picture on one side of the
- 30:57Speaker 1: coin that says Liberty and seventeen seventy six to twenty
- 31:02Speaker 1: twenty six, which kind of sort of implies that that
- 31:05Speaker 1: might be the duration of the country as it is
- 31:09Speaker 1: birth date and death date, which is certainly possible at
- 31:12Speaker 1: this point.
- 31:12Speaker 2: But okay, I get it.
- 31:13Speaker 1: We're celebrating the two hundred and fiftieth anniversary. And the
- 31:16Speaker 1: other side of the coin says fight, Fight, Fight, and
- 31:20Speaker 1: it has Trump in front of the American flag in
- 31:23Speaker 1: what appears to be somewhat of a depiction of his
- 31:27Speaker 1: reaction to getting shot last year. And this is been created,
- 31:36Speaker 1: this potential coin, the design for it, the drafts have
- 31:41Speaker 1: been approved and verified by the US Treasurer as being legitimate.
- 31:48Speaker 1: This is under consideration as a one dollar coin in
- 31:53Speaker 1: honor of America's two hundred and fiftieth birthday. Now, let's
- 31:59Speaker 1: be clear, this is not legal. There is a law,
- 32:04Speaker 1: it's a very well thought out and intentioned law that
- 32:09Speaker 1: you cannot have a living person on actual US currency.
- 32:17Speaker 1: So this is open and shut.
- 32:20Speaker 2: Now.
- 32:20Speaker 1: When asked about this, Trump administration officials have been desperately
- 32:25Speaker 1: trying to avoid the issue, and they've muddled what the
- 32:28Speaker 1: rules are for a commemorative coin that comes from the
- 32:33Speaker 1: US mint that doesn't have any currency value, and what
- 32:38Speaker 1: the proposal for this is, which is a one dollar
- 32:41Speaker 1: coin an actual currency. Now I would be against this
- 32:45Speaker 1: as a commemorative coin celebrating the two hundred and fiftieth birthday.
- 32:50Speaker 2: I mean, it's.
- 32:51Speaker 1: Completely ridiculous, It's totally wrong, and every Republican who's worth
- 32:58Speaker 1: their salt others should understand why. Because we don't have
- 33:03Speaker 1: kings in this country? Can you obviously not see the
- 33:07Speaker 1: problem with celebrating the anniversary of the declaration of into
- 33:12Speaker 1: fucking pendence? What was what was the decoration of independence?
- 33:17Speaker 1: We were declaring our independence from Great Britain? Why because
- 33:22Speaker 1: we didn't believe in fucking kings? So how are we
- 33:25Speaker 1: going to celebrate it with a coin that has our
- 33:28Speaker 1: current president who's acting like a king on both sides
- 33:32Speaker 1: of the coin? Are you fucking kidding me? So, even
- 33:36Speaker 1: as a commemorative coin, it's wrong, But as an actual
- 33:39Speaker 1: one dollar currency coin, it's illegal. And I don't know
- 33:44Speaker 1: what's gonna happen here. And of course you know this
- 33:46Speaker 1: is classic Trump fan reaction. Those that have a semblance
- 33:51Speaker 1: of a clue as to why this is a bad idea,
- 33:54Speaker 1: they just presume oh, Trump is trolling everybody, Isn't that
- 33:57Speaker 1: fucking hilarious? Of course they don't care about the fact
- 34:00Speaker 1: that somebody has put resources into creating this draft for
- 34:06Speaker 1: this coin. We don't care about that because it's all
- 34:09Speaker 1: about owning the libs. It's all about the troll It's
- 34:14Speaker 1: all about how hilarious this is. And of course then
- 34:17Speaker 1: there's other people just don't give a fuck because they
- 34:20Speaker 1: view Trump as a king, whether they admit it or not.
- 34:23Speaker 1: But if this happens, this would be so far over
- 34:26Speaker 1: the line, so in such a clear and obvious fashion that,
- 34:31Speaker 1: you know what, even though it seems like a strange
- 34:33Speaker 1: hill to die on, if that occurs, that would be
- 34:37Speaker 1: the point where I think I'm out. I'm out completely.
- 34:40Speaker 1: On the second Trump administration, I was never a fan
- 34:43Speaker 1: of it.
- 34:44Speaker 2: I had concerns about it.
- 34:45Speaker 1: I helped my friend Steve Cortes as a consultant for
- 34:49Speaker 1: a pro Trump super pack because I was helping out
- 34:51Speaker 1: a friend and I didn't want Kamala Harris to be president.
- 34:55Speaker 1: But there was never any good scenario for the twenty
- 34:58Speaker 1: twenty four election to me, philosophically, from a principal perspective,
- 35:03Speaker 1: if that actually happens.
- 35:05Speaker 2: A large part of me still thinks there's no way
- 35:07Speaker 2: this can happen.
- 35:08Speaker 1: This can't be real. Even in the Trump administration. This
- 35:12Speaker 1: cannot happen. But if it does, I'm sorry. That is
- 35:16Speaker 1: a line that cannot be crossed. Even though it's totally symbolic,
- 35:18Speaker 1: it doesn't mean very much in the larger scheme of things.
- 35:22Speaker 1: To me, it would be very, very significant. So I'm
- 35:24Speaker 1: not just no, I'm not just hell no. I'm absolutely
- 35:28Speaker 1: fucking not on the idea of a Trump coin celebrating
- 35:32Speaker 1: the two hundred.
- 35:33Speaker 2: And fiftieth anniversary of the origins of the United States
- 35:36Speaker 2: of America.
- 35:37Speaker 1: But Trump is a king, doesn't stop there. A large
- 35:41Speaker 1: part of the whole king concept is that because of
- 35:46Speaker 1: who Trump is and who he has around him, as
- 35:50Speaker 1: I've already said, nobody wants to say no to him, okay,
- 35:55Speaker 1: and this filters down and occasionally they will find somebody
- 36:02Speaker 1: who will go, wait a minute, no, I'm not going
- 36:05Speaker 1: to do this. And the way that this administration has
- 36:09Speaker 1: reacted to those people very much like a mob organization,
- 36:14Speaker 1: like a mafia outfit, is to me incredibly troubling and
- 36:20Speaker 1: sends all sorts of bad precedence and is an incredibly
- 36:25Speaker 1: slippery slope. And there's at least two stories that are
- 36:29Speaker 1: remarkably similar that go right to this point. Here's a
- 36:33Speaker 1: story from October third from Reuters. An FBI agent was
- 36:38Speaker 1: relieved of duty for declining to arrange a purp walk
- 36:43Speaker 1: of the bureau's former director, James Comy in front of
- 36:47Speaker 1: news media cameras after Comy was federally charged last month.
- 36:51Speaker 1: Four people briefed on the matter said last Friday that
- 36:57Speaker 1: FBI agent relieved of duty for declining to arrange a
- 37:01Speaker 1: perp walk. Why because this is all about Trump embarrassing Comy,
- 37:07Speaker 1: who by the way, pled not guilty today at his
- 37:11Speaker 1: arraignment for what I believe to be highly suspect charges
- 37:15Speaker 1: of perjury that don't even make any sense, that are
- 37:17Speaker 1: never going to stick in a court of law. And
- 37:21Speaker 1: this is classic, in my opinion, has all the signs
- 37:26Speaker 1: of retribution and hypocrisy because of what happened to Trump
- 37:30Speaker 1: with the law fair in between his first and second terms.
- 37:35Speaker 1: And this is because Trump hates Cally. I went into
- 37:38Speaker 1: great detail in a unique commentary in the last episode of
- 37:42Speaker 1: the podcast. If you did not hear it, I urge
- 37:44Speaker 1: you to take a listen to it if you're open
- 37:45Speaker 1: minded on the subject, because I think you'll get some
- 37:47Speaker 1: insight that no one else provided on the nature of
- 37:50Speaker 1: the call Me Trump relationship and why it inevitably broke down,
- 37:54Speaker 1: and what's really going on here with Trump's obsession with
- 37:58Speaker 1: destroying James Comy and making his life as ministerable as possible.
- 38:02Speaker 1: But here we have an FBI agent, apparently Corney Reuters,
- 38:05Speaker 1: relieved a duty for declining to give the king what
- 38:08Speaker 1: he wanted. Then we have, and this is a New
- 38:11Speaker 1: York Times report, Trump wanted to give King Charles one
- 38:16Speaker 1: of President Eisenhowerd's swords. Obviously General Dwight D. Eisenhower World
- 38:23Speaker 1: War Two. Trump wanted to give King Charles, with whom
- 38:26Speaker 1: he recently met, one of Ike's swords. The Eisenhower Presidential
- 38:31Speaker 1: Library said it could not provide one because it is
- 38:36Speaker 1: government property and illegal to give it away. Now the
- 38:41Speaker 1: library director has been fired. Now my guess is Trump
- 38:49Speaker 1: had nothing to do with either of these actual decisions,
- 38:53Speaker 1: but somebody that wanted to make sure they stayed in
- 38:57Speaker 1: Trump's favor were the people that actually facilitated these actions.
- 39:05Speaker 1: The relieving of duty of an FBI agent and the
- 39:07Speaker 1: firing of the library director because Trump's a king and
- 39:12Speaker 1: everyone wants to stay in favor with the king, which
- 39:16Speaker 1: of course is particularly ironic given the fact that this
- 39:19Speaker 1: story deals with King Charles, who is nowhere near as
- 39:23Speaker 1: much of a king as Donald Trump as because Charles
- 39:26Speaker 1: has no real power, or hardly any real power, and
- 39:29Speaker 1: Trump has an increasing amount of power. And where does
- 39:32Speaker 1: that power come from. It comes from the people around him,
- 39:36Speaker 1: terrified of pissing him off and very eager to please him,
- 39:41Speaker 1: even when it comes to firing people who did nothing
- 39:45Speaker 1: but try to defend the law or basic common decency.
- 39:51Speaker 1: I mean, and yet again, I'll say one more time,
- 39:55Speaker 1: there's no concern about this in the right wing media zero.
- 39:59Speaker 1: In fact, you even mention of you know, this seems inappropriate.
- 40:03Speaker 1: This seems kind of like a monarchy. This seems like
- 40:07Speaker 1: what we fought a revolutionary war against. Then you got TDS,
- 40:12Speaker 1: you got Trump derangement syndrome. No, I don't have Trump
- 40:15Speaker 1: arrangement syndrome. I'm simply looking at reality and understanding that
- 40:22Speaker 1: if a Democrat president did anything close to these things,
- 40:26Speaker 1: people would be going rightfully batshit crazy. Especially in the
- 40:31Speaker 1: right wing media. By the way, as an aside on
- 40:35Speaker 1: the issue of the British monarchy and when it comes
- 40:39Speaker 1: to the death of journalism, I have to mention maybe
- 40:43Speaker 1: the most bizarre major news interview of twenty twenty five
- 40:49Speaker 1: occurred just a few days ago, and that was with
- 40:54Speaker 1: Prince William, obviously the heir to the throne, probably King
- 40:58Speaker 1: of England. Fairly soon as King Charles is getting on
- 41:01Speaker 1: in years and has cancer. Prince William did an interview
- 41:07Speaker 1: that was very significant. It's very rare for him to
- 41:09Speaker 1: do a one on one sit down interview where he
- 41:12Speaker 1: said some very significant things. The interview, and I'm not
- 41:17Speaker 1: making this up, was with Eugene Levy. Eugene Levy, the
- 41:24Speaker 1: Canadian actor comedian Eugene Levy, who, by the way, seemed
- 41:29Speaker 1: as shocked as I am that he was picked to
- 41:32Speaker 1: do this interview with Prince William. I mean, now, I
- 41:37Speaker 1: have no idea why Prince William decided to do a
- 41:40Speaker 1: major sit that interview with Eugene Levy.
- 41:42Speaker 2: And you know, Eugene.
- 41:43Speaker 1: Levy seems like a nice enough guy, but he's literally
- 41:46Speaker 1: an actor and a comedian. Now, as far as the interview, itself.
- 41:51Speaker 1: I found it kind of fascinating because Prince William outlines
- 41:55Speaker 1: how his reign will be different than any other previous
- 41:59Speaker 1: monarch of England. And I'm sure that to a lot
- 42:06Speaker 1: of people what he said sounded really great. You know,
- 42:09Speaker 1: he wants to bring change to the monarchy, he wants
- 42:11Speaker 1: to bring transparency, He basically wants to bring it into
- 42:15Speaker 1: the twenty first century. And I'm sure that all sounded awesome,
- 42:19Speaker 1: especially I don't know, I don't know if this is
- 42:21Speaker 1: a liberal conservative issue, but in my mind, you know,
- 42:24Speaker 1: liberals would think, oh, that is awesome, because they always
- 42:26Speaker 1: love progress and change is inherently good, and so this
- 42:32Speaker 1: is this is great, a younger generation taking over the
- 42:35Speaker 1: British monarchy. And my thought was, wow, Prince William just
- 42:41Speaker 1: outlined that he's going to end the British monarchy. Now,
- 42:45Speaker 1: some people might think that's great. I actually think weirdly
- 42:49Speaker 1: the British monarchy, even though I don't like them and
- 42:52Speaker 1: I have a lot of problems with it, and obviously
- 42:54Speaker 1: I'm very much anti kings here in America, I think
- 42:58Speaker 1: for Great Britain it actually works. It's a complicated situation.
- 43:03Speaker 1: They're kind of like the mascots of the country. I
- 43:06Speaker 1: mean that effectively, that's what the Royal family is. They're
- 43:08Speaker 1: the mascots of Great Britain, and they bring in a
- 43:12Speaker 1: lot of money, and they're a connection to this country
- 43:15Speaker 1: that is no longer anything close to what it once was,
- 43:19Speaker 1: to a pass that was clearly very glorious, was once
- 43:23Speaker 1: by far the greatest power that had ever existed in
- 43:27Speaker 1: the history of man. So there's a tremendous history there,
- 43:30Speaker 1: and the monarchy is really the last link that England
- 43:35Speaker 1: or Great Britain has to that. And if you're William
- 43:39Speaker 1: and you're going to all of a sudden change everything
- 43:42Speaker 1: and be much more open and transparent and be more
- 43:45Speaker 1: a man of the people, guess what's going to happen.
- 43:48Speaker 1: Whatever magic is still in existence is going to dissipate.
- 43:54Speaker 1: When I saw this interview, I thought, you know what
- 43:56Speaker 1: this is like Santa Claus deciding that they're gonna be
- 44:00Speaker 1: far more transparent. Then they're gonna they're gonna, you know,
- 44:04Speaker 1: be out there a lot more, and they're gonna give
- 44:06Speaker 1: kids a tour of the South Pole, and they're gonna,
- 44:10Speaker 1: you know, give up all the secrets about the elves
- 44:13Speaker 1: and the reindeer, and I thought, you know, what's gonna
- 44:16Speaker 1: happen in that circumstance. No one's gonna believe in Santa
- 44:20Speaker 1: Claus anymore, not even seven year olds. It's not gonna
- 44:24Speaker 1: happen because transparency kills the magic, it kills the mystery.
- 44:30Speaker 1: And if you don't unders understand that that's part, a
- 44:33Speaker 1: huge part of what you're selling as the British royal family,
- 44:36Speaker 1: then you probably shouldn't be king. So, uh, that's my prediction.
- 44:41Speaker 1: My prediction is will you will be very popular with
- 44:44Speaker 1: the people, but probably end up ending the British monarchy
- 44:48Speaker 1: as we know it because without that mystery, without that magic, uh, there,
- 44:53Speaker 1: there's nothing to sell because now you're you're just a
- 44:57Speaker 1: you know, you're just a normal person, just like you know,
- 45:01Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, wait a minute, Santa Claus isn't real.
- 45:04Speaker 1: I've seen with my own kids, once they realize Santa
- 45:07Speaker 1: Claus isn't real, they don't give a shit about Santa
- 45:09Speaker 1: Claus anymore. Even if they have suspicions that Santa Claus
- 45:12Speaker 1: isn't real anymore, they don't really seem the care. So
- 45:16Speaker 1: it's gonna be the same thing with the British monarchy.
- 45:18Speaker 1: But from an immediate perspective, I found it fascinating that
- 45:21Speaker 1: ug Levy I did not have that on my Bingo card.
- 45:26Speaker 1: Then the British Monarchy, the interviews that basically sets out
- 45:31Speaker 1: how the British monarchy will eventually end after all these
- 45:36Speaker 1: hundreds and hundreds of years, was done by a Canadian comedian.
- 45:43Speaker 1: What a strange world we live in now. One of
- 45:45Speaker 1: the things that I often talk about on this podcast
- 45:49Speaker 1: is how if you watch closely enough, the truth always
- 45:52Speaker 1: comes out.
- 45:53Speaker 2: And I want to.
- 45:55Speaker 1: Put that on display one more time on a completely
- 45:58Speaker 1: different subject, and that is the issue of right wing
- 46:02Speaker 1: commentators and influencers that really frustrate me and what's really
- 46:08Speaker 1: going on with them, and how they're not really in
- 46:11Speaker 1: this for the truth, that they are in this for popularity.
- 46:16Speaker 1: The truth is not the coin of the realm. Being
- 46:19Speaker 1: popular with the Trump cult base is what really matters,
- 46:24Speaker 1: and making money is what matters. So popularity and money
- 46:30Speaker 1: are really the driving forces. And to me, the three
- 46:35Speaker 1: major MAGA commentators that drive me the craziest because of
- 46:41Speaker 1: the fact that they are all very talented, they're all
- 46:44Speaker 1: very smart at times, but they also say things that
- 46:48Speaker 1: are utterly absurd, totally wrong, and I'm not even sure
- 46:53Speaker 1: they really believe them, because they are manipulating their audience
- 46:56Speaker 1: from their own personal gain. Are Tucker car Carlson, Candace Owens,
- 47:02Speaker 1: and Megan Kelly. Now they're all slightly different, but in general,
- 47:07Speaker 1: and I've even tweeted this recently, of all of the
- 47:11Speaker 1: Maggot commentators, there's no greater disparity between the really smart
- 47:16Speaker 1: things that those three people say and the really dumb
- 47:20Speaker 1: or inaccurate, totally wrong things that those three people say.
- 47:25Speaker 1: See to me, like you know, a Sean Hannity or
- 47:28Speaker 1: a Dan Bongino, somebody like that, I don't have any
- 47:31Speaker 1: expectation for it, because they're fucking idiots. There really are morons.
- 47:36Speaker 1: They're just not intelligent people. They're not talented, they're not smart,
- 47:41Speaker 1: and they're just gonna give the cult what they want.
- 47:44Speaker 1: But I think Megan Kelly and Tucker Carlson and Candace
- 47:48Speaker 1: Owens are three very smart, very talented people who at
- 47:54Speaker 1: times have said things that are absolutely fantastic, and at
- 47:59Speaker 1: times they have said things that are very productive, very truthful,
- 48:04Speaker 1: very productive, but all three of them have also gone off.
- 48:07Speaker 2: The deep end to various degrees.
- 48:09Speaker 1: Now, I would say Megan Kelly has probably gone off
- 48:11Speaker 1: the deep end, less than Tucker Carlson, certainly less than
- 48:14Speaker 1: Candace Owens, who is absolutely batshit crazy, especially in the
- 48:19Speaker 1: wake of Charlie Kirk's assassination, which she is not so
- 48:24Speaker 1: subtly blaming on Israel, and that's created a whole controversy.
- 48:29Speaker 2: With him the Charlie Kirk universe.
- 48:31Speaker 1: But you know, I have no willingness to believe anything
- 48:36Speaker 1: that Candas is saying, especially after she claimed that the
- 48:39Speaker 1: wife of the President of France is a man and
- 48:41Speaker 1: might be the President of France's father, that there's a
- 48:44Speaker 1: lawsuit involving that, which I can't wait to see come
- 48:47Speaker 1: to fruition because I think Candas is going to get
- 48:49Speaker 1: destroyed on that. You know, she doesn't believe in the
- 48:52Speaker 1: moon landing. And I've talked about.
- 48:55Speaker 2: Tucker Carlson quite a bit.
- 48:56Speaker 1: I think I've been very prescient about how Tucker is
- 48:59Speaker 1: no longer credible and he's losing his mind, although occasionally
- 49:03Speaker 1: he has moments of lucidicity.
- 49:06Speaker 2: If that's a word. He's lucid at.
- 49:07Speaker 1: Times, and Megan Kelly, again, most of the time, I
- 49:12Speaker 1: enjoy her commentary. A lot of times she's dead on,
- 49:15Speaker 1: but when she's wrong, she's really really wrong. And my
- 49:17Speaker 1: biggest problem with Megan Kelly is that she is a
- 49:21Speaker 1: shape shifter who is able to mold herself for every
- 49:26Speaker 1: moment in what she perceives, and she's very good at
- 49:29Speaker 1: perceiving this what is in her own personal self interest
- 49:33Speaker 1: in the moment, and I think she is the most
- 49:36Speaker 1: duplicitous of all the major MAGA commentators in this regard.
- 49:42Speaker 1: The reason I'm mentioning this now is that Megan Kelly
- 49:45Speaker 1: did an interview on a podcast where she was somewhat
- 49:48Speaker 1: confronted over this issue of support for Israel and the
- 49:54Speaker 1: perception that two people that she has been rather easy
- 49:58Speaker 1: on and at times been allied with, Tucker Carlson and
- 50:01Speaker 1: Candace Owens, have become anti Israel. And I thought this
- 50:07Speaker 1: clip was really interesting and very very telling about what's
- 50:11Speaker 1: really going on, which is why preface this commentary with
- 50:15Speaker 1: the phrase, if you watch closely enough, the truth will
- 50:18Speaker 1: always come out, if only by accident, because Megan Kelly
- 50:22Speaker 1: reveals in this clip to me, the Israel part of
- 50:25Speaker 1: this is not that important.
- 50:26Speaker 2: What's important here.
- 50:27Speaker 1: Is Megan Kelly acknowledges that if it's in her self interest,
- 50:33Speaker 1: if she likes somebody likes she likes Tucker and she
- 50:37Speaker 1: likes Candas, and for whatever reason she perceives it in
- 50:40Speaker 1: her self interest to not attack them, she will not
- 50:43Speaker 1: attack them. She's admitting it openly as a way of
- 50:47Speaker 1: trying to justify why she hasn't been critical of them
- 50:51Speaker 1: when it comes to their attacks against Israel. And to me,
- 50:57Speaker 1: I thought this was a smoking gun situation involved who
- 51:00Speaker 1: Megan Kelly really is, especially when it comes to her
- 51:05Speaker 1: excuses for Candace Owens, which if a man ever said
- 51:10Speaker 1: them about a woman, I think there would be some
- 51:13Speaker 1: very significant problems in the backlash. But here was Megan
- 51:16Speaker 1: Kelly talking about Tucker Carlson and Candace Owens and why
- 51:21Speaker 1: she does not attack them.
- 51:23Speaker 4: I know what Hamas does, trust me, and I've been
- 51:25Speaker 4: covering it. But that doesn't mean that the devastation and
- 51:28Speaker 4: destruction can go on forever. Israel's now taken out Hesbalah,
- 51:31Speaker 4: It's decimated himas it had a war with Ron that
- 51:34Speaker 4: we almost got dragged into, you know, in more full flower,
- 51:37Speaker 4: it's time to wrap it up in this American's view.
- 51:40Speaker 4: I am entitled to that opinion, and I will not
- 51:42Speaker 4: be shamed out of it by being called an anti Semite. Now,
- 51:45Speaker 4: as for my decision to platform Tucker, too bad, Too
- 51:50Speaker 4: fucking bad. I love him, we're friends. I don't think
- 51:52Speaker 4: he's an anti Semite at all, but I don't really care.
- 51:56Speaker 4: I think Tucker's a very important, valuable voice in the
- 51:58Speaker 4: national conversation.
- 51:59Speaker 1: I'm thrilled. I don't know her.
- 52:02Speaker 4: I don't really know her that well, although I will
- 52:05Speaker 4: tell you we recently had a very nice exchange before
- 52:07Speaker 4: all this, and I was just reminded in my own
- 52:10Speaker 4: head that Candace is a young mom of like three
- 52:13Speaker 4: young kids. She's under a lot of pressure, she's got
- 52:16Speaker 4: a big show. She's been under attacked. She since she
- 52:20Speaker 4: came onto the public airwaves, and she's been under attack constantly.
- 52:24Speaker 4: And it's my prerogative if I say to myself, that
- 52:28Speaker 4: is not someone I wish to attack. I do not
- 52:31Speaker 4: feel that wave. I don't want to do it. Then
- 52:33Speaker 4: I felt this way, and now that people have made
- 52:35Speaker 4: my attacking her the stakes of my relationship with whatever
- 52:38Speaker 4: person is saying this, I'm gonna have to say goodbye
- 52:40Speaker 4: to that person. I won't do it now. It's like
- 52:43Speaker 4: a point of pride. It's literally the same thing as
- 52:46Speaker 4: the BLM folks trying to make you raise your fist.
- 52:48Speaker 4: The answer is no.
- 52:50Speaker 1: Now to me, you might not think that was significant.
- 52:53Speaker 1: I found that to be very very tallic about what's
- 52:56Speaker 1: really going on, especially when it comes to Megan Kelly,
- 52:59Speaker 1: because I know there are a lot of people that
- 53:01Speaker 1: like Megan Kelly. I like Megan Kelly, or at least
- 53:03Speaker 1: I want to like Megan Kelly. But I've seen firsthand
- 53:07Speaker 1: where she let clearly lets her personal biases impact her commentary.
- 53:14Speaker 1: I mean, the worst example that I've talked about previously
- 53:17Speaker 1: is how she tried to destroy my friend Matt Lower
- 53:21Speaker 1: on sex abuse allegations that were totally bogus, and then
- 53:26Speaker 1: bent over backwards to protect her buddy Pete Hegstat because
- 53:29Speaker 1: it was in her self interest to do so in
- 53:31Speaker 1: a situation where there was far more evidence of an
- 53:36Speaker 1: actual sexual assault involving Pete Hegstat than there ever was
- 53:40Speaker 1: against Matt Lauer, and she clearly, I mean, she could
- 53:43Speaker 1: not have been more diametrically opposed on those two situations
- 53:47Speaker 1: because her self interest was diametrically opposed. Her self interest
- 53:52Speaker 1: was to go after lower to help justify why she
- 53:56Speaker 1: got canned from NBC, which was really because she sucked
- 53:59Speaker 1: at that job. In her were terrible, So she took
- 54:02Speaker 1: it out on Matt Lauer because she likes the narrative
- 54:04Speaker 1: that NBC is anti female and that everyone was protecting
- 54:07Speaker 1: Matt Lauer, which was ridiculous, which was exactly the opposite. Well,
- 54:12Speaker 1: Pete Hegstatt comes along, and she likes Pete, and she
- 54:15Speaker 1: knows Pete, and you know, Pete's Trump favorite and a
- 54:19Speaker 1: MAGA favorite, and so she gets used by heg sat
- 54:23Speaker 1: to help him get through his confirmation process by getting
- 54:27Speaker 1: her blessing because she's known as somebody as being, you know,
- 54:31Speaker 1: very much opposed to this whole issue. Everyone is opposed
- 54:35Speaker 1: to the issue of sexual assault, obviously, but this is
- 54:37Speaker 1: a huge part of Megan Kelly's persona.
- 54:40Speaker 2: She is perceived as.
- 54:42Speaker 1: Having a lot of street cred on this issue, partially
- 54:45Speaker 1: because of her attacks on Matt Lawer, ironically enough, and
- 54:48Speaker 1: so therefore when she gave her blessing to Pete Hegsat,
- 54:51Speaker 1: that might have been the difference between him getting confirmed
- 54:53Speaker 1: and not getting confirmed. And that's just one example of
- 54:57Speaker 1: the way that she does things, and to me, it's
- 55:00Speaker 1: emblematic of the larger problem within the.
- 55:02Speaker 2: Right wing media ecosystem.
- 55:05Speaker 1: It's so incestuous, it's all about grifting. Many of these
- 55:09Speaker 1: people are frauds, even the ones that are the smartest
- 55:12Speaker 1: and the most talented, like Megan Kelly, like Tucker Carlson,
- 55:17Speaker 1: and like Canda owns Now. There's been a major development
- 55:21Speaker 1: in the mainstream news media that's gotten a lot of attention,
- 55:25Speaker 1: and understandably so, and that is that Bari Weiss has
- 55:30Speaker 1: sold her news organization, The Free Press, to Paramount for
- 55:36Speaker 1: a ridiculous amount of money. I like one hundred and
- 55:38Speaker 1: fifty million dollars, which I don't even understand that valuation.
- 55:42Speaker 1: This is not an area where I'm an expert, but
- 55:44Speaker 1: I have enough knowledge to be very confused and skeptical
- 55:48Speaker 1: about that number. That makes no.
- 55:50Speaker 2: Sense to me.
- 55:51Speaker 1: This seems like the biggest boondoggle since what Dave Portnoy
- 55:54Speaker 1: pulled off with Barstool Sports. I mean, it's just insane
- 55:58Speaker 1: that in this environment Paramount would consider The Free Press,
- 56:02Speaker 1: basically just a website to be.
- 56:04Speaker 2: Worth that much money.
- 56:05Speaker 1: To me, it seems like the second part of this
- 56:08Speaker 1: equation was what really drove the deal. It's obvious that
- 56:13Speaker 1: the leaders at Paramount really liked Bari Weiss and really
- 56:16Speaker 1: wanted her to bring when to bring her into the
- 56:19Speaker 1: fold at CBS News in a very powerful position, and
- 56:24Speaker 1: therefore she had the leverage, I guess, to be able
- 56:27Speaker 1: to do a heck of a job negotiating this deal financially,
- 56:30Speaker 1: because not only does the Free Press get purchased, but
- 56:34Speaker 1: she becomes editor in chief of CBS News. Now, is
- 56:39Speaker 1: she going to be one hundred percent in charge? It's
- 56:42Speaker 1: hard to say. It's basically a co leadership situation, although
- 56:47Speaker 1: she is reporting to the ultimate boss at Paramount, which
- 56:52Speaker 1: seems to give her the upper hand at least as
- 56:54Speaker 1: long as she's in good favor. And so Bari Weiss
- 56:58Speaker 1: is going to be effectively calling the shots at CBS News.
- 57:04Speaker 2: Now.
- 57:04Speaker 1: Who is Bari Weiss and why does this matter? Bari
- 57:07Speaker 1: Weiss is somebody who used to be an opinion editor
- 57:11Speaker 1: at the New York Times, And you know, I didn't
- 57:14Speaker 1: know a lot about her, but you know, if you're
- 57:16Speaker 1: an opinion editor at the New York Times, you're clearly
- 57:19Speaker 1: a liberal to begin with. And there was nothing about
- 57:21Speaker 1: her that seemed like she was a conservative, but she
- 57:24Speaker 1: had a falling out of The New York Times. She
- 57:27Speaker 1: left and or was fired, and that's when she started
- 57:31Speaker 1: the Free Press and where she really got on my radar.
- 57:34Speaker 1: And I'll never forget this. This would have been some
- 57:37Speaker 1: point in twenty twenty one, I think, probably late twenty
- 57:40Speaker 1: twenty one, where she was a panelist on HBO's Real
- 57:45Speaker 1: Time with Bill Maher And she became the first member
- 57:50Speaker 1: of the liberal elite media that I could remember. And
- 57:54Speaker 1: I was someone who was watching this as closely as
- 57:56Speaker 1: possible during the entire COVID paddock, searching desperately someone within
- 58:01Speaker 1: the liberal media elite to step forward and go, what
- 58:04Speaker 1: the fuck are we doing here? This is insane. We've
- 58:08Speaker 1: got to stop this. And Barry Weiss was the first person,
- 58:12Speaker 1: to my knowledge to do this. I even tweeted about
- 58:15Speaker 1: it at the time. I said thank you to barr Weiss,
- 58:18Speaker 1: And the reaction of liberals was hilarious because they immediately
- 58:22Speaker 1: attacked barr Weiss's liberal credentials. Oh no, she's not a
- 58:26Speaker 1: member of the liberal media elite, you know, which basically
- 58:29Speaker 1: means she's not insane.
- 58:31Speaker 2: I mean, so.
- 58:34Speaker 1: I have a lot of respect for Barry Weiss for
- 58:36Speaker 1: being willing and able to do that. I've followed her
- 58:39Speaker 1: work a lot more since then. We've played a couple
- 58:42Speaker 1: of clips over the years in this podcast from interviews
- 58:45Speaker 1: that she has done. I think she's smart. I don't
- 58:49Speaker 1: think she's brilliant. I mean she doesn't even believe in
- 58:51Speaker 1: the Second Amendment, which goes to this other issue, which
- 58:55Speaker 1: is freaking hilarious and rather telling that a lot of
- 58:58Speaker 1: left wing media responses to her being named as the
- 59:03Speaker 1: other in chief of CBS News have described Barry Weiss
- 59:07Speaker 1: as quote center right, center right. Now. This is a
- 59:14Speaker 1: way for them to create a narrative that fits their agenda,
- 59:21Speaker 1: which is, you know, somehow paramounted, which just fired. Stephen
- 59:25Speaker 1: Colbert has become captive of the pro Trump forces, and
- 59:30Speaker 1: so they need her to be center right. Bari Weiss
- 59:33Speaker 1: is not center right. She is by and large a liberal.
- 59:38Speaker 1: She was not an insane person, although she was at
- 59:41Speaker 1: the beginning. In fact, she even acknowledged her mistakes, which
- 59:44Speaker 1: I really respected. But she was not great on COVID
- 59:47Speaker 1: at the beginning, but then she learned eventually, and unlike
- 59:51Speaker 1: her liberal friends, she was willing to come out and
- 59:53Speaker 1: say it on HBO that this is insane what we're
- 59:57Speaker 1: doing here, And so the idea that she's center right
- 1:00:01Speaker 1: is absurd. If you think Barry Weiss is center right,
- 1:00:05Speaker 1: then you are beyond a left wing lunatic. I don't
- 1:00:09Speaker 1: know how I would describe her. I mean, she's to me,
- 1:00:13Speaker 1: she's in the category of a Bob Costas, or a
- 1:00:17Speaker 1: Jon Stewart, or a John Fetterman or a Bill Maher,
- 1:00:22Speaker 1: you know, somebody like that who is a rational liberal,
- 1:00:25Speaker 1: which I'm fine with. I mean, that's the best you're
- 1:00:28Speaker 1: ever going to do, especially this date and age. And
- 1:00:31Speaker 1: to have them be the head of CBS News, I
- 1:00:34Speaker 1: think is generally a positive. At the very least, the
- 1:00:37Speaker 1: next time we're in a moral panic, you know, and
- 1:00:40Speaker 1: there's a bunch of group thing going on in the
- 1:00:42Speaker 1: mainstream news media, my hope is that CBS News will
- 1:00:46Speaker 1: at least take a moment before they jump in because
- 1:00:50Speaker 1: Bari Weiss is in a very important and prominent, powerful
- 1:00:53Speaker 1: position there. I think that's positive. Now, is this going
- 1:00:57Speaker 1: to change the world. No, I don't think one person
- 1:01:00Speaker 1: is going to completely change the world at CBS, and
- 1:01:02Speaker 1: I think the world as it exists today cannot be
- 1:01:05Speaker 1: changed by even a CBS News you know, even as
- 1:01:09Speaker 1: powerful as CBS once was and as powerful as sixty
- 1:01:13Speaker 1: minutes once was, we don't live in.
- 1:01:15Speaker 2: That world anymore.
- 1:01:16Speaker 1: Not one major mainstream legacy news outlet is going to
- 1:01:21Speaker 1: be able to really change the landscape. The only way
- 1:01:24Speaker 1: that the legacy media still has any legitimate power, and
- 1:01:28Speaker 1: we certainly saw this during the COVID panic, is when
- 1:01:30Speaker 1: they all act in unison, that's the only time, and
- 1:01:35Speaker 1: so having one of them be less insane than the
- 1:01:38Speaker 1: others because Bari Weiss is in charge, is a positive.
- 1:01:42Speaker 1: But I don't think it's.
- 1:01:43Speaker 2: A game changer.
- 1:01:44Speaker 1: Unless unless the next shoe drops, and that next shoe
- 1:01:50Speaker 1: is something that I've already referred to somewhat bizarrely connected
- 1:01:55Speaker 1: to me, although maybe only in fantasy, and that is,
- 1:02:00Speaker 1: there is still the story out there that Paramount may
- 1:02:04Speaker 1: now go ahead and purchase Warner Brothers Discovery, which owns CNN.
- 1:02:12Speaker 1: Well if that happens, which I have been told reliably
- 1:02:15Speaker 1: is a high likelihood, although not a certainty. But I
- 1:02:19Speaker 1: was also told that we would know more information about
- 1:02:22Speaker 1: that by now, and things have gone completely silent there now.
- 1:02:26Speaker 1: Sometimes silence means you're about to have a major deal.
- 1:02:29Speaker 1: Sometimes it means that something has gone wrong and the
- 1:02:33Speaker 1: deal is not going to happen. I don't know which
- 1:02:35Speaker 1: direction we're headed on this, so I honestly don't I've
- 1:02:38Speaker 1: not heard anything recently. It's possible that either direction could
- 1:02:42Speaker 1: could be where we're heading. So this is, you know,
- 1:02:44Speaker 1: certainly is not a dead situation. There's there been no
- 1:02:47Speaker 1: major reporting saying that Paramount is no longer in the
- 1:02:51Speaker 1: hunt to try to purchase Warner Brothers Discovery. But if
- 1:02:55Speaker 1: Paramount does do that, and I am told that even
- 1:03:00Speaker 1: though that would create in theory all sorts of regulation
- 1:03:05Speaker 1: problems that you know, in a rational world, a presidential
- 1:03:09Speaker 1: administration might go, whoa, whoa, whoa what what?
- 1:03:11Speaker 2: What?
- 1:03:11Speaker 1: This is too much? You're going to own way too
- 1:03:13Speaker 1: much in the media realm, you know, this is this
- 1:03:16Speaker 1: is something that we can't approve of. I've been told
- 1:03:19Speaker 1: that the Trump administration would look favorably upon this move,
- 1:03:24Speaker 1: essentially because they like what Paramount is doing. And maybe
- 1:03:27Speaker 1: Bari Weiss's is part of that equation. I don't know,
- 1:03:31Speaker 1: But if that sale of Warner Brothers Discovery to Paramount
- 1:03:38Speaker 1: does happen, the most logical next step would be for
- 1:03:43Speaker 1: CBS News and CNN to merge. I mean, that's just
- 1:03:48Speaker 1: the way things happen in this day, and that's why
- 1:03:51Speaker 1: media properties buy other media properties to try to consolidate
- 1:03:55Speaker 1: and cut waste and cut costs, especially with the business
- 1:04:00Speaker 1: model as broken as it currently is. And if that happens,
- 1:04:04Speaker 1: now Bari Weiss becomes the most powerful person in news
- 1:04:08Speaker 1: because if you're running both CBS News and CNN, and
- 1:04:14Speaker 1: you know, presumably that's the way this would work. This
- 1:04:18Speaker 1: is all conjecture, speculation, but I think it's it's educated
- 1:04:21Speaker 1: and logical. Then now we're cooking with oil. If you're
- 1:04:26Speaker 1: someone who thinks that the barr Weiss hire is a
- 1:04:30Speaker 1: game changer, doesn't completely change the world, But you combine
- 1:04:34Speaker 1: CBS and CNN, even with both of those outlets not
- 1:04:38Speaker 1: having great ratings, they have enormous credibility.
- 1:04:41Speaker 2: Together, they have a wide.
- 1:04:43Speaker 1: Reach, and they would become really the most powerful, you know,
- 1:04:49Speaker 1: brand in news, and that would be really interesting to
- 1:04:53Speaker 1: see what kind of influence barr Weiss would have at
- 1:04:55Speaker 1: that time.
- 1:04:56Speaker 2: But we're not there yet.
- 1:04:57Speaker 1: We're not there yet, but obviously, you know, if in
- 1:05:00Speaker 1: fact that happens, I'll have a lot to say about it,
- 1:05:04Speaker 1: partially because it will officially end what I've known for
- 1:05:08Speaker 1: a couple of years now was never going to come
- 1:05:10Speaker 1: to fruition, which was the whole black Swan situation, where
- 1:05:13Speaker 1: I had been promised in great, great, great absurd detail
- 1:05:16Speaker 1: that I would be given a job as an executive
- 1:05:20Speaker 1: and an on air person at CNN and you know,
- 1:05:23Speaker 1: should paramount by Warner Brothers discovery. Something I'm actually rooting
- 1:05:27Speaker 1: for is to get me some sort of psychological, permanent
- 1:05:31Speaker 1: closure of that.
- 1:05:32Speaker 2: Because I don't think there's any other scenario where I'll
- 1:05:34Speaker 2: get it. I'll obviously have further.
- 1:05:36Speaker 1: Comment on that, and I know that a lot of
- 1:05:38Speaker 1: you have had questions about that whole black Swan situation,
- 1:05:41Speaker 1: which I keep promising to answer.
- 1:05:43Speaker 2: I've not yet done.
- 1:05:44Speaker 1: So I've been holding off because I've anticipated news on
- 1:05:48Speaker 1: the Paramount Warner Brothers merger front, and so I'm going
- 1:05:51Speaker 1: to continue to hold off until we have more information
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