Latest / The Mark Belling Podcast / Mark Belling Podcast #180: France is proof: no matter how much you give leftists, it is never enough. That's the question facing Wisconsin and America in the current election: do we turn over our state and nation to radicals for whom the giveaways and leniency will never be enough for them? The Brewers try to sort through the Timeless Ticket mess as World Series prices for games here have gone through the AmFam roof. And, Mark shares the story of a local school district that claimed a school was too "old." Guess what that "obsolete" building is used for now?

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Mark Belling Podcast #180: France is proof: no matter how much you give leftists, it is never enough. That's the question facing Wisconsin and America in the current election: do we turn over our state and nation to radicals for whom the giveaways and leniency will never be enough for them? The Brewers try to sort through the Timeless Ticket mess as World Series prices for games here have gone through the AmFam roof. And, Mark shares the story of a local school district that claimed a school was too "old." Guess what that "obsolete" building is used for now? · The Mark Belling Podcast

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Speaker 2: You've all seen what's going on in France. You know
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Speaker 2: what this election we're having right now at Voting in
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Speaker 2: Wisconsin started on Tuesday yesterday. I'm doing the podcast on Wednesday.
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Speaker 2: You know what this election is? It's a decision in
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Speaker 2: whether or not we're going to be France. It really is.
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Speaker 2: Probably the greatest writer ever on American democracy was Tocqueville,
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Speaker 2: who was in the United States in the 1800s. He
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Speaker 2: was French. And he marveled at the brilliance of the
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Speaker 2: American system of democracy. And he wrote about why it
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Speaker 2: was superior to that of the rest of the world.
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Speaker 2: The system that we have had, democracy premised on capitalism,
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Speaker 2: is being taken away from us. In many states, it's gone.
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Speaker 2: What has been advocated is exactly what they've done in France.
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Speaker 2: Radicals in charge, spending even way more money on the
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Speaker 2: welfare state than we spend, and then allowing mass migration
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Speaker 2: of people coming into your country who hate you. I'm
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Speaker 2: going to read before we dive into today's podcast a
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Speaker 2: quote from Tocqueville. This is a very, very, very old quote,
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Speaker 2: but boy, oh boy, does it not speak truth. In
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Speaker 2: one of the countries that redistributes the most in the world,
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Speaker 2: the country that equalizes objective living conditions the most, that
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Speaker 2: gives the most opportunity to everyone, that provides culture, education,
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Speaker 2: and higher education for free to all, that respects human
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Speaker 2: rights the most. In this land of plenty, therefore, a
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Speaker 2: significant portion of the population is convinced that it lives
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Speaker 2: in a hell of injustices and systemic violence. What he's
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Speaker 2: saying is, the more you give everyone for free, the more,
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Speaker 2: in fact, many believe that they're not living in a
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Speaker 2: land of plenty, but a land of hell. Now, I'm
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Speaker 2: going to analyze this at a little bit greater depth. Why,
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Speaker 2: when you give so much to people for nothing, are
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Speaker 2: they still so miserable and angry? It's explainable. And it
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Speaker 2: explains why a system in which, instead of giving away
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Speaker 2: stuff for free, you should have to work for and
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Speaker 2: earn it, is far more superior to bringing a higher
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Speaker 2: the days before Act 10, when the teachers' union got
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Speaker 2: automatic raises every year, as opposed to now where we
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Speaker 2: can negotiate contracts, that aren't so ridiculous, back in those days,
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Speaker 2: when they had the sweetest deal imaginable, they bitched by
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Speaker 2: the way that their raises were limited. Yeah, they were
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Speaker 2: limited to the automatic annual increase that you would get.
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Speaker 2: And somehow being guaranteed a raise is miserable. All they
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Speaker 2: did was bitch. They were never happy. And it was
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Speaker 2: back then that I started asking the question which no
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Speaker 2: teacher would ever answer. How much money would you have
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Speaker 2: to be paid in order for you to shut up?
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Speaker 2: They'd never answer. And again, we're talking about 20-year-old money
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Speaker 2: before inflation. What if it was $ 100, 000? If you all
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Speaker 2: made $ 100, 000 a year, would you finally shut up? What
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Speaker 2: about $ 125, 000? $ 150, 000? What would be enough that you stopped
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Speaker 2: whining and complaining and demanding more, more, more, more, more?
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Speaker 2: And they'd never give you that number. Likewise, France is
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Speaker 2: a welfare state. France has the greatest social safety net
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Speaker 2: perhaps of any nation in Europe. All sorts of free stuff.
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Speaker 2: Massive welfare because they've been spending money like crazy. You
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Speaker 2: think our national debt is terrible? France is on a
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Speaker 2: time bomb. I believe their debt is now, the interest
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Speaker 2: on their debt may be greater than GDP. So they've
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Speaker 2: been forced to try to bring in some type of
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Speaker 2: austerity to stop their bonds from cratering. And the people
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Speaker 2: in France are freaking out because they want more, more, more, more, more.
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Speaker 2: The French have already given them so much, yet they
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Speaker 2: want more. When you give someone something for nothing, they're
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Speaker 2: never satisfied. Medicare for all, they won't be satisfied. They'll
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Speaker 2: never be satisfied. And this is the great problem with
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Speaker 2: creating a welfare state in which you give things away.
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Speaker 2: I've told this story a bunch of times. I worked
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Speaker 2: for a guy in Springfield, Illinois in the 80s. He
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Speaker 2: hated radio contests. We did them. I never really figured
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Speaker 2: out why he did them when he said he hated
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Speaker 2: them so much. We did them because in rating spirits,
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Speaker 2: you had to do contests because the other year competitors
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Speaker 2: were doing contests and it was a way of driving listenership.
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Speaker 2: But his point was the people who would win the
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Speaker 2: contest or win the prize or whatever the thing was,
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Speaker 2: all they would do is bitch. People complain more about
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Speaker 2: stuff they get for free than stuff that they buy.
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Speaker 2: Somebody gets something for free, they'll complain about it. Let's
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Speaker 2: imagine you buy something and you made a mistake. Piece
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Speaker 2: of junk. You complain about it less. My own belief
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Speaker 2: is that it's a rationalization process. If you buy something
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Speaker 2: and it's a piece of junk, you got to kind
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Speaker 2: of admit, well, nobody made you buy it. You're the
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Speaker 2: one that picked it. Whereas if you get it for free,
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Speaker 2: somebody else decides what you're going to get and they
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Speaker 2: give it to you. That's when you start whining and complaining.
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Speaker 2: We have right now the Democrat Party taken over by
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Speaker 2: the DSA. They're all socialists now, even the ones that
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Speaker 2: say that they're not, because they don't stand up to
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Speaker 2: anything that the socialists demand. And what they want to
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Speaker 2: do in Wisconsin and they want to do in the
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Speaker 2: United States is give away everything for free. They are
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Speaker 2: already doing this in a number of the states, the
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Speaker 2: states that have gone to hell. California's gone to hell.
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Speaker 2: It's run entirely by Democrats. They've welcomed in mass migration.
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Speaker 2: They have a massive welfare state and to pay for it,
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Speaker 2: massive state taxes. And people and businesses are fleeing like crazy.
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Speaker 2: State of Washington, state of Oregon, same thing. Two of
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Speaker 2: the most miserable cities in terms of quality of life
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Speaker 2: to live in right now are Seattle and Portland. Chicago
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Speaker 2: was one of the greatest cities in the United States,
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Speaker 2: and Illinois was a very well-run state when it had
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Speaker 2: divided government. The Democrats control everything there. Chicago has gone
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Speaker 2: to hell. And the quality of life in Illinois has
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Speaker 2: gone to hell. They give away everything for free. They
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Speaker 2: don't punish criminals. You can't even hold them on bail.
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Speaker 2: They have a no-cash bail policy there. It's gone to hell.
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Speaker 2: And that's what they want to do here. They want
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Speaker 2: to bring this radicalism to Wisconsin. And by taking over
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Speaker 2: the Congress and then eventually the White House in 2028,
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Speaker 2: they want to bring it to the United States. And again,
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Speaker 2: after they do it, what will happen is they will
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Speaker 2: be angrier and more miserable than ever and demand more, more, more, more.
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Speaker 2: Who do you think runs France? Lefties. What do you
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Speaker 2: think Macron is? Candace Owen says Macron is married to
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Speaker 2: a man maybe his own father. When Candace presented all
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Speaker 2: of that, I thought that the case was pretty compelling.
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Speaker 2: But now that I hear Candace claiming that Erica Kirk
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Speaker 2: killed her husband and all of that, now I don't think,
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Speaker 2: now I now think Brigitte Macron probably actually is a woman,
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Speaker 2: just because I can't believe anything Candace would say because
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Speaker 2: Candace has lost her mind. Anyway, the French have a
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Speaker 2: welfare state. Then the French open their doors and say, hey,
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Speaker 2: all you Muslims, come on in. They all come in.
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Speaker 2: you'd think they'd be glad to move into a country
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Speaker 2: in which you get everything for free. That's why one
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Speaker 2: would think they all came there. Instead, they hate friends.
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Speaker 2: So they join with their leftists in burning everything down.
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Speaker 2: We in the United States have had immigration forever. And
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Speaker 2: with the exception of the United States, of the recent
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Speaker 2: period in which we allowed all sorts of people to
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Speaker 2: come in illegally, the most patriotic people we had were
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Speaker 2: our immigrants. Because they came in and earned their way
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Speaker 2: in to get citizenship. You'd have to pass citizenship tests.
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Speaker 2: The immigrants came in under quotas. You had to be
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Speaker 2: able to show that you had employment when you were
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Speaker 2: going to get here so you'd come to the United
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Speaker 2: States and contribute rather than be a freeloader? They loved it.
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Speaker 2: It wasn't until we let everybody in and then started
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Speaker 2: giving them free health care, free this, free that, that
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Speaker 2: they decided that they hated the place that they came to.
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Speaker 2: So again, this is what the election is about. David
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Speaker 2: Crowley's name may be on the ballot for governor, but
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Speaker 2: you ought to just translate his name into French. French Socialist.
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Speaker 2: That's what they want. And what they want will never
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Speaker 2: be good enough for their people. Because once people are...
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Speaker 2: Look at the most miserable people we know here in
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Speaker 2: our own country. It sure seemed to you that they're
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Speaker 2: like third generation rich kids who've never had to pay
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Speaker 2: for anything in their lives. They're all miserable. They're the
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Speaker 2: ones that are all on drugs. They're the ones that
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Speaker 2: are embittered. They're the ones that... have sex with 97
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Speaker 2: different people and none of them are good enough. They
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Speaker 2: got everything for free. They never had to earn anything.
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Speaker 2: And what does that make you? Does it make you grateful?
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Speaker 2: It makes you miserably unhappy. Sure seems to me that
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Speaker 2: some of the most religious people in the world are
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Speaker 2: people who have the least. Those that have the most,
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Speaker 2: no gratitude at all. And if you dare, once they
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Speaker 2: start getting all of this stuff, if you dare ever
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Speaker 2: take it away, they squeal like these people wearing the masks.
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Speaker 2: over there in France. Let's put some of this in perspective.
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Speaker 2: The Council of Economic Advisors has run the numbers on
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Speaker 2: the DSA platform. DSA is the Democrat Socialist of America.
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Speaker 2: Francesca Huang, who is fully endorsing, David Crowley saying he's
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Speaker 2: going to be a great governor, he agrees with me
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Speaker 2: on everything. This is their report. If the DSA promises
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Speaker 2: are financed by deficit spending, that is by taking on
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Speaker 2: additional government debt, CEA estimates that interest rates on 10-year
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Speaker 2: Treasury bonds would rise by 5.8 percentage points, likely breaching 10%,
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Speaker 2: and dramatically increasing not only the government's cost of borrowing,
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Speaker 2: but also interest rates on mortgages and loans of hardworking Americans, families,
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Speaker 2: and small businesses. That's the first thing they say. If
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Speaker 2: we give the lefties everything they want, and we do
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Speaker 2: it by simply borrowing... Interest rates will explode. You can say, well,
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Speaker 2: we're not going to do it that way. We're going
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Speaker 2: to do it by raising taxes. Well, they discussed that
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Speaker 2: as well. If the DSA promises are instead financed by
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Speaker 2: increasing taxes on hardworking Americans, CEA estimates that the tax
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Speaker 2: hikes would lower U.S. economic output, real annual GDP, by 14.6%
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Speaker 2: in perpetuity. This is driven by fewer machines, fewer factories,
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Speaker 2: and less intellectual property, and by a 16.2% fall in
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Speaker 2: total labor hours, less employment. The U.S. economic output could
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Speaker 2: fall by about 19.2% per year, roughly $ 72 trillion in output,
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Speaker 2: lost over a decade, meaning fewer jobs and lower wages
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Speaker 2: for Americans. Now, of course, anyone who understands economics knows
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Speaker 2: that If you do everything the socialists want, you can
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Speaker 2: come up with the money one of two ways. You
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Speaker 2: can borrow and do even more deficit spending than we're
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Speaker 2: doing now, or you can drive taxes through the roof. Borrowing,
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Speaker 2: it will drive up interest rates and mortgage costs well
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Speaker 2: into the double digits. And taxing it will wreck the economy,
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Speaker 2: wreck productivity. and create a tremendous disincentive on the part
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Speaker 2: of anyone to try to earn massive amounts of money
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Speaker 2: here because they have to give so much of it
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Speaker 2: back and give it back to people who aren't doing anything.
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Speaker 2: So we can look at France with this sense of superiority.
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Speaker 2: See what the French got? They can't even put down
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Speaker 2: their own rioters. The notion that the French would take
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Speaker 2: control of the situation there by actually steamrolling in and
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Speaker 2: You know, do a mini Tiananmen Square, do what the
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Speaker 2: Chinese did, and get rid of the problem, I was
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Speaker 2: going to say, once and for all, once and for
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Speaker 2: about 30 years. They're not only not going to do that,
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Speaker 2: they wouldn't even do what we did in Kenosha. Wait
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Speaker 2: until the city was burned down for a few days
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Speaker 2: and then let a citizen come in and finally do something.
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Speaker 1: Nope.
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Speaker 2: In the meantime, all this radicalism is producing an election
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Speaker 2: in which You know, I'm one of those who kind
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Speaker 2: of is with the conventional wisdom. I think there's going
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Speaker 2: to be a blue wave. The question is, is the
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Speaker 2: blue wave going to be so blue that you could
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Speaker 2: put any America-hating radical on the ballot and have them
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Speaker 2: win if they put Democrat after their name? The real
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Speaker 2: test of that is Michigan. You've got a guy whose
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Speaker 2: family is tied to the Muslim Brotherhood running for the
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Speaker 2: United States Senate. He's as radical as the day is long.
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Speaker 2: And he's had his tenterhooks into radical Islam his entire life.
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Speaker 2: There are a fair number of Jewish residents of Michigan.
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Speaker 2: And we know that most Jewish people have been voting
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Speaker 2: Democratic their entire life. A story that appeared this week
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Speaker 2: in the New York Times, of all places. A New
15:51
Speaker 2: York Times reporter who dropped into Michigan to cover the race,
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Speaker 2: noted that he thinks that there is a strong chance
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Speaker 2: that for the first time in their lives, Jewish Democrats
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Speaker 2: in Michigan will vote for the Republican candidate. Now, I
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Speaker 2: would say that a loyal Democrat who happens to be Jewish,
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Speaker 2: who lives in Michigan and votes for El-Sayed, simply has
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Speaker 2: a death wish. He's made it quite clear, Muslim Brotherhood,
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Speaker 2: the other rhetoric, well beyond Mamdani, that he hates Jewish people.
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Speaker 2: It's not hard to pick up that that's what al-Sayed
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Speaker 2: stands for. He also hates capitalism, and a lot of
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Speaker 2: Jewish people certainly love the United States because of its
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Speaker 2: capitalistic opportunities. So if they didn't all vote for the Republican,
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Speaker 2: they'd face a death wish. But the point of the
16:43
Speaker 2: New York Times reporter is, well, some of them have
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Speaker 2: kind of realized that. The reporter's name is Jeremy Peters.
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Speaker 2: He went on MSNOW and said that polls may be
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Speaker 2: missing Democrats voting against El-Sayed. Now, the polls in Michigan
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Speaker 2: show El-Sayed, the Democrat radical, leading. But the New York
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Speaker 2: Times reporter said that what he was able to pick
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Speaker 2: up after getting on the ground there in Michigan is
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Speaker 2: that many Jewish Democrats are going to vote Republican for
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Speaker 2: the first time. He said the polls obviously don't pick
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Speaker 2: up on this because the polls create a sample in
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Speaker 2: which they try to get a sample of the correct
17:29
Speaker 2: number of Democrats and the correct number of Republicans. And
17:32
Speaker 2: the problem with many of the polls, in addition to
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Speaker 2: the fact that Trump supporters don't talk to pollsters, is
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Speaker 2: the sample is perpetually screwed. Republicans are underrepresented in the sample.
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Speaker 2: Quoting Peters, the reporter for The New York Times, that's
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Speaker 2: a big deal. He said it's really quite striking how
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Speaker 2: Democrats are so worried about El-Sayed that they'll vote for
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Speaker 2: Trump-aligned Mike Rogers. Now again, that's just one guy observing this.
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Speaker 2: But the fact that he's a guy that's coming from
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Speaker 2: the New York Times is perhaps noteworthy. Now let's get
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Speaker 2: back to Wisconsin. We have five constitutional offices in Wisconsin
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Speaker 2: that are decided in the election, but two of them
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Speaker 2: get decided in one vote. We vote for the governor
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Speaker 2: and lieutenant governor on one ticket. So if the Democrats
18:28
Speaker 2: win the governorship, they win the lieutenant governorship. Likewise, if
18:31
Speaker 2: the Republicans win the governorship, they win the lieutenant governorship.
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Speaker 2: But we have the three other offices on the ballot too.
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Speaker 2: Attorney General, Secretary of State, and State Treasurer. The Attorney
18:41
Speaker 2: General is a big deal. But the Secretary of State
18:45
Speaker 2: and State Treasurer have been largely irrelevant because the two
18:48
Speaker 2: jobs don't have many duties. The Democrat candidate, however, for
18:55
Speaker 2: Secretary of State has plans to use her position to
18:59
Speaker 2: do something very significant. And again, for those of you
19:04
Speaker 2: who don't think that you're talking here about running against
19:06
Speaker 2: a party that is entirely radical, I'll tell you what
19:09
Speaker 2: her top priority is. Jocasta Zamarripa says if she is
19:17
Speaker 2: elected Secretary of State, she's the Democratic candidate. She's a
19:20
Speaker 2: member of the Milwaukee City Council now. The Democrats are
19:23
Speaker 2: all in on jamming Milwaukee lefties down the state's throat
19:26
Speaker 2: in this election. Jocasta Zamorepa says her top priority will
19:30
Speaker 2: be to give illegal immigrants driver's licenses. My number one
19:36
Speaker 2: priority is to see the governor sign driver's licenses for
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Speaker 2: undocumented Wisconsinites into law. Now, some of you may wonder,
19:44
Speaker 2: why would she care that much about that? We certainly
19:48
Speaker 2: know that if half of Milwaukee is driving around without
19:52
Speaker 2: driver's licenses right now, so what's the big deal? Well,
19:55
Speaker 2: I'm going to explain the big deal for those of
19:57
Speaker 2: you who can't figure these things out on your own. That,
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Speaker 2: after all, is my job. If you could figure everything
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Speaker 2: out on your own, what would be the point of me?
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Speaker 2: What do we use to register to vote in Wisconsin?
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Speaker 2: largely driver's licenses. You can get an ID card. And
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Speaker 2: not everybody who registers to vote has a driver's license,
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Speaker 2: but it is the gold standard for presenting documentation of yourself.
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Speaker 2: Your driver's license does not state whether you're a citizen
20:31
Speaker 2: or not. giving all of the illegal immigrants in the
20:38
Speaker 2: state of Wisconsin driver's licenses, even if they are illegal,
20:42
Speaker 2: meaning that the question that you're asked when you file
20:44
Speaker 2: for a driver's license, are you a U.S. citizen, they
20:47
Speaker 2: wouldn't have to answer, would dramatically increase the number of
20:52
Speaker 2: illegal immigrants who will be able to vote. It would
20:56
Speaker 2: still be illegal for them to vote, but we don't
20:59
Speaker 2: check citizenship and don't require verification of citizenship before you're registered.
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Speaker 2: And the fact that the SAVE Act did not pass
21:07
Speaker 2: means we don't do it. This is why Jocasta Zamarripa
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Speaker 2: wants to make this her top priority. She's the Democrat
21:14
Speaker 2: candidate for Secretary of State. Now look at the situation
21:20
Speaker 2: in France. All these leftists and then mass migration. We've
21:26
Speaker 2: had mass migration of our own, to some extent Muslims,
21:29
Speaker 2: but to a larger extent people coming into the southern borders.
21:38
Speaker 2: As traditional Americans have clearly, over the last several years,
21:41
Speaker 2: moved to the Republican side, the Democrats are looking for
21:46
Speaker 2: a new wave of voters to replace this. It's been
21:52
Speaker 2: the rationale that many believe is why Biden opened up
21:56
Speaker 2: the border and allowed maybe 10 to 15 million new
21:59
Speaker 2: illegals to come in. He wants to convert them to voters,
22:03
Speaker 2: or at least, never mind he, I don't know what
22:05
Speaker 2: he ever thought. That's what they've wanted. Well, they're not
22:10
Speaker 2: legally allowed to be voters. If you come in legally
22:12
Speaker 2: and you're not a citizen, you're not allowed to be
22:14
Speaker 2: a voter. But now Jocasta Zamoripa, the Democratic candidate for
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Speaker 2: Secretary of State, has come right out and said it.
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Speaker 2: I want to give them all driver's licenses. One of
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Speaker 2: the things that happens when you're really full of yourself
22:30
Speaker 2: and you're convinced you're going to win is you stop
22:35
Speaker 2: trying to sugarcoat and pretend that all the stuff that
22:39
Speaker 2: you're for, you're not really for. They're talking pretty radical
22:42
Speaker 2: right now. For example, it's pretty brazen when David Crowley
22:49
Speaker 2: has Kamala Harris come to Wisconsin and campaign for him.
22:53
Speaker 2: That's not covering anything up about how far from the
22:56
Speaker 2: loony left he is. The whole party was terrified of
23:01
Speaker 2: letting Francesca Hong be their candidate for governor, but David
23:04
Speaker 2: Crowley's campaigning with her. The entire party has become an
23:11
Speaker 2: El-Sayed Mamdani AOC Ilhan Omar party. Why no Democrat? And
23:17
Speaker 2: he doesn't think like they do. They aren't pushing back,
23:20
Speaker 2: are they? Because all the radicalism that we're talking about,
23:23
Speaker 2: when they actually get power, they're doing. They've done it
23:26
Speaker 2: all in California. They've done it all in Washington state.
23:31
Speaker 2: How do you think you got tens of thousands of
23:33
Speaker 2: street people living in San Francisco taking whizzes and craps
23:36
Speaker 2: on the street? Because they were allowed to do so.
23:39
Speaker 2: Because it's what the lefties believe in. So that's what's
23:45
Speaker 2: at stake in the election. In the meantime, President Trump,
23:54
Speaker 2: knowing that he's unpopular right now, and knowing the one
23:57
Speaker 2: thing that the Democrats are banking on is somehow, well,
23:59
Speaker 2: Trump's unpopular, so we're going to vote for the other party,
24:02
Speaker 2: never mind that the other party has become a bunch
24:04
Speaker 2: of anti-American radicals. Trump is trying to remind people of
24:10
Speaker 2: what he's done. Now, I am still of the opinion
24:14
Speaker 2: that Trump has been a very good president. I don't
24:18
Speaker 2: agree with him on everything. And as I said, I
24:19
Speaker 2: think we need an exit strategy in Iran. And we
24:23
Speaker 2: need to once and for all stop bankrolling the unending
24:27
Speaker 2: war in Ukraine. By the way, some idiot asked me,
24:32
Speaker 2: should I call somebody an idiot for saying something idiotic
24:35
Speaker 2: to me? What do you think, Jason? You Sure, why not?
24:39
Speaker 2: You said that Ukraine should accept giving a portion of
24:45
Speaker 2: its country back to Russia. Would you say the same
24:47
Speaker 2: thing if Russia wanted to take back a portion of
24:49
Speaker 2: Alaska that we should just say yes? What a stupid question.
24:53
Speaker 2: Alaska is part of the United States. Ukraine isn't. What
24:57
Speaker 2: I'm saying is we have to stop bankrolling Ukraine. If
25:03
Speaker 2: Russia tried to take Alaska, I would fight that. I
25:06
Speaker 2: don't know why I necessarily need to have our country
25:08
Speaker 2: continue to spend billions of dollars bankrolling the war in Ukraine,
25:12
Speaker 2: which could simply end if both sides cut a deal. Anyway,
25:17
Speaker 2: with regard to the border, Trump's Office of Communications put
25:21
Speaker 2: out a lengthy policy statement today on the positive things
25:25
Speaker 2: that have happened because Trump dealt with the border. And
25:29
Speaker 2: I'm not going to read the whole thing here, but
25:31
Speaker 2: it does require you to ponder where we were two
25:33
Speaker 2: years ago and how much worse off our country was
25:38
Speaker 2: when we had millions of people illegally coming into this
25:40
Speaker 2: country because the Democrats decided it was good that we
25:43
Speaker 2: allow that to happen. Quoting briefly, I'll pull out some
25:48
Speaker 2: excerpts from the statement from the Trump administration. The illegal
25:50
Speaker 2: alien population has been reduced by at least 2.3 million,
25:54
Speaker 2: with more than 3 million migrants leaving the country during
25:57
Speaker 2: President Trump's second term, the largest reduction in illegal immigration
26:01
Speaker 2: in American history. And then there's a big breakdown of
26:04
Speaker 2: the numbers that I don't have time to roll through here.
26:07
Speaker 2: I'm guessing you can find this material on the White
26:09
Speaker 2: House website. Securing the southern border. President Trump declared a
26:12
Speaker 2: national border emergency on day one and deployed thousands of
26:15
Speaker 2: military personnel to protect the southern border against invasion. Border
26:20
Speaker 2: wall construction was immediately ordered to resume. It goes on.
26:24
Speaker 2: As you know, the number of illegal crossings at the
26:25
Speaker 2: southern border is getting very, very close to zero. You
26:28
Speaker 2: never know zero for sure because obviously... Somebody that's successful
26:32
Speaker 2: at crosses is somebody we didn't see cross. But by
26:37
Speaker 2: all anecdotal evidence, that border is more secure than it
26:39
Speaker 2: has been ever. Expanding interior enforcement and accelerating deportations. In
26:45
Speaker 2: other words, dealing with the problem of illegals already here.
26:48
Speaker 2: Something that has driven the left crazy. They don't like
26:51
Speaker 2: it when ICE snatches up murderers, rapists, and other lawbreakers
26:56
Speaker 2: and tries to kick them out of the United States.
26:58
Speaker 2: Trump is pointing out he has had great success, despite
27:01
Speaker 2: the incredible obstacles that were put in place, in reducing
27:05
Speaker 2: the number of people who don't belong in the United
27:07
Speaker 2: States from being here, tightening legal migration, and protecting American workers.
27:13
Speaker 2: Several other points. I mentioned how extreme and anti-democracy the
27:24
Speaker 2: Democrats have gotten on Monday's podcast. I talked about the
27:29
Speaker 2: statement by Alyssa Slotkin, the senator from Michigan, who said
27:35
Speaker 2: that when the Democrats get control of the Senate and
27:37
Speaker 2: the House, they're going to begin prosecutions of all sorts
27:40
Speaker 2: of Trump administration officials because they want to do this
27:43
Speaker 2: to send a message to young Americans to scare them
27:47
Speaker 2: into making sure that they never want to go to
27:49
Speaker 2: work for Trump or a Republican administration again. In response
27:54
Speaker 2: to this, I got something that's fairly lengthy. from a
27:58
Speaker 2: longtime listener of mine who's a young woman who actually
28:03
Speaker 2: took a job as an intern in the Trump administration.
28:05
Speaker 2: I'm not going to name her, although, and I'm going
28:08
Speaker 2: to take out a few things that might identify her,
28:09
Speaker 2: but those of you who know her could probably figure
28:12
Speaker 2: it out. I don't want to name her. I think
28:15
Speaker 2: she'd be fine with being named, but I don't want
28:16
Speaker 2: to name her. Hey, Mark, longtime listener, first-time caller. I
28:21
Speaker 2: wanted to drop you a note in response to Alyssa
28:23
Speaker 2: Slotkin's comments about on her wishes for young people to
28:26
Speaker 2: not participate in Trump's Republican Party and how she hopes
28:29
Speaker 2: it's damaging and makes them think twice. I'm a graduate of,
28:34
Speaker 2: and then names, again, I just don't want to identify her.
28:37
Speaker 2: I just don't. I don't like doing it because sometimes
28:40
Speaker 2: people don't know the crap that they're going to have
28:41
Speaker 2: to put up with, although I can pretty much tell
28:43
Speaker 2: that she's more than willing to accept it. But without
28:45
Speaker 2: a signed affidavit in here, I just want to do it.
28:48
Speaker 2: I'm a, and then she names a prominent local high
28:51
Speaker 2: school public, a rush baby and a lifetime belling listener
28:56
Speaker 2: I went to school out of state to pursue a
28:57
Speaker 2: Division I track and field scholarship and hope to participate
29:00
Speaker 2: in unique internship opportunities. I earned an opportunity to be
29:04
Speaker 2: an intern in Trump's first intern class in his first term.
29:08
Speaker 2: He was a polarizing figure at that time, but as
29:11
Speaker 2: a 20-year-old hungry to get involved in politics and make
29:13
Speaker 2: a difference, this was the opportunity of a lifetime. I
29:17
Speaker 2: could go on and on about the interviews, the background checks,
29:20
Speaker 2: the awe of Washington, D.C. and the White House, but
29:22
Speaker 2: what's important is that Donald Trump is amazing to work for.
29:26
Speaker 2: The experience was second to none. The work we did
29:28
Speaker 2: was taxing. The hours we worked were long, and the
29:31
Speaker 2: people we worked with, both staffers and fellow interns, were amazing.
29:35
Speaker 2: Trump is gracious and truly appreciated the time and energy
29:39
Speaker 2: of young staff. According to Slotkin, the senator from Michigan,
29:43
Speaker 2: my future should have been stifled from that point on.
29:47
Speaker 2: Following the internship, I returned to school for my senior year,
29:50
Speaker 2: set two school records and track events, graduated with two degrees,
29:54
Speaker 2: and moved on to the next phase of my life.
29:57
Speaker 2: Many in the intern class stayed in D.C. and put
30:00
Speaker 2: school on pause to continue with the administration. Many pursued
30:05
Speaker 2: law school and many pursued private sector jobs. I moved
30:08
Speaker 2: back to, and then she mentions the area here in
30:10
Speaker 2: southeastern Wisconsin. I built a house and pursued a career
30:13
Speaker 2: in sales while working with, and then I'm not going
30:16
Speaker 2: to identify the company, and so on. She then describes
30:20
Speaker 2: a roommate from the White House internship. has now gone
30:24
Speaker 2: on to be the executive assistant to the CEO at
30:27
Speaker 2: a major airline and mentions the accomplishments of some fellow interns.
30:29
Speaker 2: And again, she was an intern in the first Trump administration.
30:33
Speaker 2: Many candidates make many offhanded remarks on the campaign trail,
30:37
Speaker 2: but this one needs to be rebuked. There's no black
30:40
Speaker 2: stain that comes with interning or working with any political party,
30:44
Speaker 2: and Senator Slotkin doesn't get the right to intimidate young conservatives.
30:48
Speaker 2: In order to be a young conservative, you have to
30:50
Speaker 2: make it through the indoctrination of high school and college,
30:54
Speaker 2: the pressure of social media, radical policies, and groupthink. She
30:58
Speaker 2: doesn't get to stain our early careers as well. And
31:04
Speaker 2: she signed it. And something else of a listener. This
31:13
Speaker 2: is a different listener. One of the points that I've
31:15
Speaker 2: tried to make over the years is that liberals are
31:18
Speaker 2: incapable of understanding how anything works. I use chess as
31:23
Speaker 2: an example. I'm no good at chess. You'd think I
31:26
Speaker 2: would be, but I'm not. The thing that stopped me
31:29
Speaker 2: with chess, it's the same thing with billiards. When I like,
31:33
Speaker 2: we had a pool table in our base when I
31:34
Speaker 2: was a kid. I was decent enough at like making
31:38
Speaker 2: the next shot. If you played, what was the one
31:41
Speaker 2: where you had to make the ball? Like solids and stripes,
31:45
Speaker 2: or you could, that was one of the games. And
31:48
Speaker 2: then another one was you had to make the balls
31:49
Speaker 2: in order, make number 15 first, then 14, then 13.
31:54
Speaker 2: And a really simple one would be just to count points.
31:57
Speaker 2: In other words, you put in the 11 ball, you
31:59
Speaker 2: get 11, you put in the four ball. There's a, basic, basic,
32:02
Speaker 2: uncomplicated games. What I was pretty good at is I
32:06
Speaker 2: could make the shot in front of me, including difficult ones.
32:08
Speaker 2: What I was terrible at was visualizing the tables. In
32:13
Speaker 2: other words, what's it going to look like? Somebody who's
32:16
Speaker 2: playing these games and is really good. Every shot they
32:19
Speaker 2: make is not only set up to make the following
32:21
Speaker 2: shot good, but the following three or four shots, they
32:24
Speaker 2: look this up, okay, I'll make this one, then this one,
32:26
Speaker 2: then this one, and I just can't do that visualization. Likewise,
32:29
Speaker 2: my problem with chess. All right, I've got this move.
32:33
Speaker 2: I know what I need to do right here. I
32:34
Speaker 2: need to know what to do to make sure that
32:37
Speaker 2: their knight doesn't get my rook. I can't visualize that board,
32:41
Speaker 2: seven or eight or nine things, Down. I can't do it.
32:45
Speaker 2: Lefties can't even do the next move. Lefties... Let me
32:50
Speaker 2: take a really simple game. Checkers. Checkers. Now, one of
32:56
Speaker 2: the things about checkers is you don't want to jump
32:59
Speaker 2: your opponent's piece... If by doing that, it sets your
33:03
Speaker 2: opponent up to jump two of your pieces on their
33:05
Speaker 2: next move, right? That's like the basis of checkers. You
33:09
Speaker 2: don't want to do something in which the opponent in
33:12
Speaker 2: their next move is going to screw. Liberals can't even
33:15
Speaker 2: do that. They just see the first move they want
33:19
Speaker 2: to make and cannot think through the consequences of that.
33:22
Speaker 2: They just can't. We have a listener who picks up
33:25
Speaker 2: on this. And again, I've made this point without doing
33:27
Speaker 2: it in the way that she's describing it any number
33:30
Speaker 2: of times that they never think through what's going to happen.
33:32
Speaker 2: COVID was a perfect example. They did not think through
33:37
Speaker 2: how badly they would damage children by closing the schools
33:40
Speaker 2: for a year. Let's imagine COVID actually afflicted children and
33:45
Speaker 2: kids died at the same rate as the rest of us.
33:48
Speaker 2: It still would have been terrible to destroy the education
33:51
Speaker 2: for so many people and set them back for so
33:53
Speaker 2: many years. Because there was a virus running around, given
33:56
Speaker 2: the fact that there's been viruses running around that are
33:58
Speaker 2: dangerous to children and the rest of us for as
34:00
Speaker 2: long as humans have been alive. But instead, in this instance,
34:04
Speaker 2: the kids couldn't get COVID, meaning there was no reason
34:07
Speaker 2: other than to protect the crybaby, whiny-ass teachers who somehow
34:10
Speaker 2: felt that they didn't have to go to work when
34:12
Speaker 2: many of the rest of us did. Cops went to work,
34:16
Speaker 2: firefighters went to work, nurses went to work, talk show
34:18
Speaker 2: hosts went to work. Construction crews went to work, people
34:21
Speaker 2: that went quick trip went to work, but the teachers
34:23
Speaker 2: somehow thought that they shouldn't have to run the risk
34:25
Speaker 2: of getting sick. So we closed the schools in order
34:31
Speaker 2: to achieve this thing, protect the kids, protect the teachers.
34:34
Speaker 2: Without thinking of the long-term implications of this, that decision
34:37
Speaker 2: has caused all these ripple effects. Imagine dominoes tipping over
34:41
Speaker 2: as a result. So from a listener, Mark, Have you
34:46
Speaker 2: ever done an episode on Sir Isaac Newton's third law
34:49
Speaker 2: of motion? Well, no, because I'd have to think about
34:51
Speaker 2: what that was. Do you know what it is? I
34:53
Speaker 2: got Jason in here. He's really smart. Do you know
34:56
Speaker 2: what the third law of motion is? No, you don't.
35:00
Speaker 2: I think both of us probably were taught this and
35:02
Speaker 2: have forgotten it, right? So I know like the basic
35:05
Speaker 2: Newton laws, but I don't know which one is which.
35:10
Speaker 2: It's actually the most famous one. And I quote it
35:13
Speaker 2: all the time. I admit I don't know what was
35:15
Speaker 2: the third law. For every action, there's an equal and
35:17
Speaker 2: opposite reaction. I, in fact, she said, if you've ever
35:19
Speaker 2: done this, I bring it up constantly. For every action,
35:25
Speaker 2: there's an equal and opposite reaction. Lefties don't understand this.
35:29
Speaker 2: But every time they do something, now I'll just come
35:32
Speaker 2: up with a simple one. Raise Wisconsin taxes by 30%.
35:38
Speaker 2: You don't think that the equal and opposite reaction will
35:40
Speaker 2: be numerous people leaving Wisconsin and going to, say, a
35:43
Speaker 2: zero-income tax state like Florida. See, for some people, that's
35:47
Speaker 2: an obvious thing. Of course they're going to do something
35:49
Speaker 2: in response to that. Watch a football game. There's a
35:55
Speaker 2: rule in the NFL now that when one team substitutes,
35:58
Speaker 2: you have to give the other team time. For instance,
36:01
Speaker 2: if the offense substitutes, you've got to get the defense
36:03
Speaker 2: time to bring on their substitutes as well. In other words,
36:06
Speaker 2: if a team sees... the offensive team bringing in four
36:08
Speaker 2: wide receivers, the defense does what? They usually bring in
36:11
Speaker 2: extra defensive backs. Why? For every reaction, there's an equal
36:14
Speaker 2: and opposite reaction. Lefties can't get that. If the lefties
36:18
Speaker 2: ran an NFL defense, when the other team brought in
36:20
Speaker 2: four wide receivers, they wouldn't change anything because they can't
36:23
Speaker 2: imagine that something is going to happen because of this.
36:26
Speaker 2: So she writes, here's why I think it would be good.
36:29
Speaker 2: If socialized medicine was implemented, what would be the equal
36:33
Speaker 2: and opposite reaction? How would that impact our economy and
36:37
Speaker 2: the level of health care an individual receive? If the
36:41
Speaker 2: police were defunded or ICE is disbanded, what would be
36:45
Speaker 2: the equal and opposite reaction? What would happen to crime rates?
36:50
Speaker 2: How would illegal immigration impact our country and individual U.S. citizens?
36:56
Speaker 2: And then she asks, what would the opposite reaction be
36:59
Speaker 2: if Act 10 is repealed? Again, I think it's pretty
37:02
Speaker 2: easy to figure out what all of those things would be.
37:04
Speaker 2: But lefties can't. And that's the problem with all leftism.
37:08
Speaker 2: They want to do something that, A, sounds good. Let's
37:11
Speaker 2: give us all health care for free. Without considering all
37:15
Speaker 2: of the awful things that will therefore happen as a
37:19
Speaker 2: result of that, you're listening to the Mark Belling Podcast.
37:30
Speaker 2: This is the Mark Belling Podcast. There are certain stories
37:34
Speaker 2: that just amuse me. Maybe they shouldn't. I always ask
37:41
Speaker 2: Paul this, and I think eventually he would remember it,
37:43
Speaker 2: but it took him like 37 times. You know what
37:46
Speaker 2: schadenfreude is? Not off the top of my, you're Irish,
37:51
Speaker 2: aren't you? Polish, that's right, you're Polish. I don't do
37:55
Speaker 2: a Polish joke as a result. By the way, I
37:58
Speaker 2: think Polish people now, they're the only people I know
38:00
Speaker 2: who tell Polish jokes are Polish people. That is what
38:04
Speaker 2: it is because everybody else is afraid of offending them.
38:06
Speaker 2: When I hear a Polish joke, it is a Polish.
38:09
Speaker 2: It's just like the people who tell Irish jokes are
38:10
Speaker 2: Irish people and all that. That is what it is.
38:13
Speaker 2: I'm a mutt, so I can't tell jokes. Maybe that
38:15
Speaker 2: means I can tell jokes about everyone. If I ever
38:18
Speaker 2: did like that 23andMe or whatever it is, it would
38:22
Speaker 2: be like the whole globe, probably all of just like
38:25
Speaker 2: white Europe. Oh, you don't have any like diversity. I'm
38:28
Speaker 2: thinking there's just like a lot of that in there.
38:31
Speaker 2: There's no such thing as a purebred belling, you know.
38:35
Speaker 2: Do they do those for dogs? When they have to, like,
38:40
Speaker 2: accredit them with the AKC, do they just show papers?
38:43
Speaker 2: Do you do a blood test now to prove that, like,
38:45
Speaker 2: that there's not a stray, like, something other? Yeah, well,
38:50
Speaker 2: there's this paper, but we don't know the answer to
38:52
Speaker 2: that either. It's something else that people will tell us
38:55
Speaker 2: after the fact when we will then have moved on
38:57
Speaker 2: and won't care anymore. All right. schadenfreude is taking mischievous
39:03
Speaker 2: delight in the misfortune of others. In other words, like,
39:08
Speaker 2: if Jason walked up to, like, go to the can
39:10
Speaker 2: in the middle of my podcast and he tripped and
39:12
Speaker 2: fell on his face and I found that funny, that
39:14
Speaker 2: would be like schadenfreude, me taking, me, like, finding delight
39:18
Speaker 2: in the fact that you were going to try to
39:19
Speaker 2: sneak out of the studio and instead tripped over your
39:21
Speaker 2: own shoelaces. I don't know if this is that or not,
39:26
Speaker 2: but I admit to being amused by this time-lit ticket
39:31
Speaker 2: thing with the Brewers. I just find this amusing. Now
39:34
Speaker 2: this has been pretty, I was gone for the, everything
39:37
Speaker 2: has just been lately working out for me perfectly fine.
39:41
Speaker 2: I had a trip planned to Florida and it was
39:43
Speaker 2: going to occur during the period in which the last
39:46
Speaker 2: weekend of the Brewer-Dodger series was going to go on
39:48
Speaker 2: and I wasn't going to be here for those games.
39:50
Speaker 2: And what happens? The Brewers clinch when they're on the
39:53
Speaker 2: Los Angeles. I miss nothing. I haven't had a chance
40:03
Speaker 2: to comment on everything that happened over the last two
40:05
Speaker 2: or three days that got a lot of attention. But
40:07
Speaker 2: I think this time you've seen coverage of this, haven't you? Yeah.
40:11
Speaker 2: Jason says, yeah. The timeless ticket is this deal in
40:14
Speaker 2: which back in 20, is it the 2013 or 2015? 2015.
40:19
Speaker 2: The Brewers put on sale for $ 1, 000 a plan in
40:23
Speaker 2: which you got a couple of things, including a ticket
40:25
Speaker 2: that you could cash in at any time in the future.
40:28
Speaker 2: You would say, well, why would anybody pay $ 1, 000 to
40:31
Speaker 2: buy a ticket from the Brewers? And the answer is
40:34
Speaker 2: you could use it in eternity for any game, including
40:39
Speaker 2: a World Series game. Now, there's a lot of things
40:42
Speaker 2: that blow me away about this story, but I know
40:45
Speaker 2: how people are. Just like going back to the thing
40:47
Speaker 2: that I had earlier, Everybody's so short-term focused. I would
40:50
Speaker 2: have thought the majority of these people would like have
40:53
Speaker 2: used this thing in the first couple of years. I
40:54
Speaker 2: understand they paid a thousand bucks for it. So they're
40:57
Speaker 2: not going to go cash this in for just a
40:58
Speaker 2: ticket to a game in June, two years later that
41:01
Speaker 2: you can buy for face value. But since then, the
41:06
Speaker 2: Brewers have been in the playoffs, like is it seven
41:08
Speaker 2: of the last eight years or eight of the last,
41:10
Speaker 2: some incredible number. They had not been in the playoffs
41:14
Speaker 2: for many years when they had this deal in 2015.
41:18
Speaker 2: But then this wave came in shortly after David Stearns
41:21
Speaker 2: was hired as the general manager and he hired Council
41:23
Speaker 2: as the manager end. This new wave of great Brewer
41:27
Speaker 2: players came in. And we've been in every year. And
41:33
Speaker 2: not just this past year, but also a few years ago,
41:35
Speaker 2: we made the league championship series. I just would have
41:39
Speaker 2: thought everybody would have cashed it in by then. For example,
41:43
Speaker 2: you know, we had the first two games of the
41:44
Speaker 2: Dodgers series this year. That'd be a pretty good one
41:49
Speaker 2: to go and use your timeless ticket for rather than
41:51
Speaker 2: they're holding out for a World Series. Except, as we
41:54
Speaker 2: all know, the Brewers haven't been to a World Series
41:56
Speaker 2: for 44 years. So this is $ 1, 000 that's sitting there
41:59
Speaker 2: burning a hole in your pocket or burning a hole
42:02
Speaker 2: wherever you have it stashed. Also, I'm also surprised that
42:06
Speaker 2: there are this many people that didn't lose the ticket.
42:08
Speaker 2: There's no way I would still. I have a say
42:11
Speaker 2: if I probably would put it in there. So I
42:12
Speaker 2: guess that's where it would be. I have keys for
42:16
Speaker 2: this little stupid office that I have here in the building.
42:18
Speaker 2: I've lost those, though. Remind me that I need to, like,
42:21
Speaker 2: talk to jury bot to get me new office tickets.
42:25
Speaker 2: I don't lock the office, but sometimes people go in
42:27
Speaker 2: there and they lock it behind me, and I have
42:29
Speaker 2: to go back to my car to get the key. Well,
42:32
Speaker 2: the keys aren't where they normally are. So there are
42:35
Speaker 2: people who have been sitting on these, and here a
42:37
Speaker 2: World Series comes. And the term of the deal was
42:40
Speaker 2: pretty clear. You get a ticket. You get to turn
42:44
Speaker 2: your timeless ticket in for the best seat available for
42:47
Speaker 2: any future game, including a World Series game. And there's
42:50
Speaker 2: like a thousand people. And they try to turn it in. Which,
42:57
Speaker 2: of course, creates a total mess. Now, I completely understand
43:02
Speaker 2: how this happened. You understand how this happened? Well, I'll
43:08
Speaker 2: tell you how. This was some staffer in the ticket office. Remember,
43:13
Speaker 2: the ticket sales were 15 years into then Miller Park.
43:18
Speaker 2: The novelty of the new stadium had worn off. The
43:19
Speaker 2: team had not been very good for several years. We
43:22
Speaker 2: were drawing, I think we dipped below $ 2 million in
43:25
Speaker 2: this era. Attendance was falling off. So they came up
43:29
Speaker 2: with a promotion to bring in short-term money, selling anything
43:33
Speaker 2: for $ 1, 000. The Brewers got that money the day the
43:36
Speaker 2: people bought it. And if somebody said, well, you know,
43:41
Speaker 2: if they ever make the World Series, we're going to
43:43
Speaker 2: have to give them a ticket. That's down the road.
43:46
Speaker 2: That's like, who cares what that's going to be? The
43:48
Speaker 2: average lefty, okay, we're going to bankrupt the government. Well,
43:52
Speaker 2: it won't happen for 25 years. Why worry about that?
43:55
Speaker 2: So this was some like marketing person who came up
43:57
Speaker 2: with a great idea. Also, in 2015, $ 1, 000 would probably
44:02
Speaker 2: be what a World Series ticket was worth, right? In fact,
44:07
Speaker 2: I'm told that you can get to a game in
44:10
Speaker 2: Tampa for $ 1, 200 right now on SeatGeek, the official MLB reseller.
44:17
Speaker 2: So the $ 1, 000 number made sense. They probably didn't figure, okay,
44:21
Speaker 2: we're not going to be there for a number of years.
44:23
Speaker 2: And then if they are, the tickets are going to
44:25
Speaker 2: be worth way more than a measly $ 1, 000. And even
44:28
Speaker 2: if they did, it's probably somebody who's not with the
44:31
Speaker 2: Brewers anymore. Now, the guy who runs the Brewers, the
44:35
Speaker 2: president of The guy right underneath Mark Adonazi was Rick Schlesinger.
44:40
Speaker 2: He was there then and he's here now, so he's
44:42
Speaker 2: having to deal with this. So anyway, all these people,
44:45
Speaker 2: they come in and they're going to try to cash
44:47
Speaker 2: in their timeless ticket. And they had a lot of
44:50
Speaker 2: problems doing so. And one of the reasons that they
44:52
Speaker 2: had a lot of problems doing so is there were
44:55
Speaker 2: all sorts of other people who had a right to
44:57
Speaker 2: their tickets too. Every year I buy season tickets, and
45:02
Speaker 2: I started buying season tickets in, I believe it was 1991.
45:06
Speaker 2: It might be 92, but it was one of those
45:08
Speaker 2: two years. It was 90. It was not, I came
45:11
Speaker 2: to Milwaukee in 1989 and I believe it was 1991
45:14
Speaker 2: or 92. And for the, for about six years, my
45:17
Speaker 2: tickets were on the third base side in what was
45:19
Speaker 2: the then lower grand Santa Cody stadium. And the last
45:22
Speaker 2: few years I moved to in county stadium behind the
45:24
Speaker 2: Brewers dugout. And when Miller park opened, They moved me
45:28
Speaker 2: to a comparable location, so I'm still behind the Brewer dugout.
45:31
Speaker 2: So for about 30 years, I've been behind the Brewer dugout,
45:33
Speaker 2: but I'm a season ticket holder forever. And when you
45:35
Speaker 2: buy the season tickets, one of the things that's put
45:37
Speaker 2: in them is you have a right to buy tickets
45:41
Speaker 2: to any postseason games, including the World Series. It's a
45:45
Speaker 2: major reason to be a season ticket holder. Now, for
45:48
Speaker 2: the longest time with the Brewers, I'm sure the Pittsburgh
45:51
Speaker 2: Pirates have that in there too. They haven't been to
45:53
Speaker 2: a World Series since 1979. It might seem like a
45:55
Speaker 2: hollow promise, but it happens. The same thing has come
46:00
Speaker 2: up over the years with Milwaukee Bucks games. Now, we
46:03
Speaker 2: might be in a new period with the Bucks, but
46:05
Speaker 2: for the longest time, the Bucks were always in the playoffs.
46:11
Speaker 2: It's a great advantage to being a season ticket holder is,
46:14
Speaker 2: and you usually get to keep your same seats. There
46:17
Speaker 2: are a handful of times in which, say, the NBA
46:21
Speaker 2: or Major League Baseball needs certain seats for their sponsors,
46:25
Speaker 2: their executives, or their officials. And some people have to
46:28
Speaker 2: be moved. The other thing is many people are on
46:31
Speaker 2: a partial plan. In baseball, let's suppose you can buy
46:35
Speaker 2: like a Brewers 10 or 20 game pack. Those are
46:38
Speaker 2: called season tickets, but it's a partial plan. So obviously,
46:42
Speaker 2: you can't get your same seats there because several people
46:44
Speaker 2: sit in those seats, but they figure out a way,
46:46
Speaker 2: some place to put you in the ballpark. So the
46:48
Speaker 2: World Series comes around. Everybody who's a season ticket holder
46:52
Speaker 2: other than idiots have renewed their tickets because they want
46:55
Speaker 2: to be able to go into the postseason, particularly the
46:57
Speaker 2: World Series. In addition to that, you've got all the
46:59
Speaker 2: partial plan members. So many of the tickets are just
47:02
Speaker 2: spoken for before you get started. Then... Because they want
47:10
Speaker 2: to reward season ticket holders more than their other people
47:13
Speaker 2: because they want you to keep renewing. If you're a
47:15
Speaker 2: season ticket holder and you're paying thousands every year forever
47:18
Speaker 2: and ever and ever, of course you're way more to
47:20
Speaker 2: the front of the line than, say, a Cub fan
47:23
Speaker 2: like Jason over there who just decides, I want to
47:25
Speaker 2: go to a game. You're at the back of the line.
47:28
Speaker 2: The season ticket is at the front of the line.
47:29
Speaker 2: So I got an email from the Brewers saying I
47:32
Speaker 2: could buy up to four additional tickets to two World
47:37
Speaker 2: Series games. And then you pick games one or two
47:40
Speaker 2: or six or seven. That's a tough call, by the way.
47:44
Speaker 2: Game one or two, you're guaranteed of getting the game.
47:48
Speaker 2: Game six or seven, there might not be a six
47:50
Speaker 2: or seven. On the other hand, if there is a
47:52
Speaker 2: six or seven, they're way more important than games one
47:54
Speaker 2: or two. So many people took advantage of that. And
48:02
Speaker 2: then they had the quick one-day window for Wisconsin residents only.
48:08
Speaker 2: So you have all these people that are jumping in
48:09
Speaker 2: and taking advantage of this. What it did not dawn
48:12
Speaker 2: on them, I don't think, is there were these people
48:14
Speaker 2: sitting there with their timeless tickets and they're butting into
48:16
Speaker 2: this thing too. And then the language in there, best
48:20
Speaker 2: seat available. Well, what is best seat available? Is best
48:24
Speaker 2: seat available, you know, front row Amy seat? Or because
48:27
Speaker 2: front row Amy buys season tickets, she gets to keep
48:29
Speaker 2: her seat. Do they have to move behind her? And
48:31
Speaker 2: the Brewers interpreted that wrong. Best seat available means after
48:35
Speaker 2: the season ticket holders get to keep their seats because
48:37
Speaker 2: they're told in their contract language you get to keep
48:39
Speaker 2: your seats in the postseason too. Well, anyway, there were
48:42
Speaker 2: a lot of these people who clambered in, and some
48:44
Speaker 2: of them didn't give apparently much notice to the Brewers,
48:47
Speaker 2: and they had some difficulty cashing their tickets in, and
48:50
Speaker 2: in the cases of some of them, they're like going
48:53
Speaker 2: to be in the corner of the fourth row of
48:55
Speaker 2: the upper deck. Now, again, I find this amusing. I just...
49:01
Speaker 2: Do I have any sympathy for the timeless ticket buyers?
49:06
Speaker 2: I mean, a little, but I mostly just find it amusing.
49:09
Speaker 2: Do I have any sympathy for the breweries and the
49:11
Speaker 2: fact that they're at a pickle here? I mean, I
49:13
Speaker 2: guess I sort of do, but more than that, I
49:14
Speaker 2: find this amusing. I find it amusing because I'm a
49:17
Speaker 2: season ticket holder and I have my tickets to all
49:19
Speaker 2: four World Series games, games one, two, six, and seven,
49:21
Speaker 2: and I'm going to sit where I normally sit. I
49:24
Speaker 2: will tell you, however, that I am stunned at the
49:28
Speaker 2: prices in the secondary market. I did not buy additional
49:34
Speaker 2: World Series tickets. I bought, I want to be clear,
49:36
Speaker 2: I bought my own, but I was given the opportunity
49:39
Speaker 2: to buy, to two games, four additional tickets. And the
49:43
Speaker 2: pricing that was out there on them was, season ticket was,
49:48
Speaker 2: the pricing that was on there was extreme. It was
49:52
Speaker 2: about $ 900 for the worst seat in the upper deck
49:55
Speaker 2: and $ 3, 000 for the lower ball near where my seats were.
49:58
Speaker 2: And I didn't think I knew any friends who would
50:00
Speaker 2: want to buy them at that price. The Brewers also
50:05
Speaker 2: said in the note that if you try to resell
50:07
Speaker 2: these tickets, we're going to identify you and you run
50:09
Speaker 2: the risk of losing your season tickets. Is that into it? Well,
50:14
Speaker 2: as it turns out, seats in the lower bowl near
50:17
Speaker 2: where I am are going for, on the secondary market,
50:20
Speaker 2: more than 3,000 and seats in the upper deck are
50:22
Speaker 2: going for more than 900. Now, I don't think I
50:25
Speaker 2: would have flipped them anyway because the Brewers said they
50:26
Speaker 2: didn't want you to flip them, but somebody's flipping tickets.
50:31
Speaker 2: So in any event, back to the timeless ticket buyers.
50:33
Speaker 2: Rich Schlesinger of the Brewers today came out and posted
50:38
Speaker 2: a statement saying that the team has mishandled the situation,
50:43
Speaker 2: saying that the Brewers erred in communicating when the timeless
50:46
Speaker 2: ticket deal was made back in 2015 how this would
50:50
Speaker 2: be handled. I know why they erred in the communication
50:53
Speaker 2: in 2015, because they knew they weren't going to be
50:55
Speaker 2: in the postseason in 2015. They just figured, let somebody
50:58
Speaker 2: else worry about it. This is what happens in life.
51:02
Speaker 2: This is the guy who becomes age 65, has not
51:05
Speaker 2: saved a penny for his retirement trying to figure out
51:07
Speaker 2: how he's going to live. He just put it off.
51:13
Speaker 2: We subsequently erred in our internal communications on the logistics
51:17
Speaker 2: of fulfilling the requests. While we were able to accommodate
51:21
Speaker 2: all with seats, we received feedback from some that they
51:24
Speaker 2: were unhappy with their seat locations. All right. I don't
51:28
Speaker 2: know what I think about this. If you buy a
51:30
Speaker 2: timeless ticket and it says that you have the right
51:32
Speaker 2: to buy tickets to any game in the future, should
51:35
Speaker 2: you expect that you're going to be stuck in the
51:36
Speaker 2: corner of the upper deck? I would think I would
51:39
Speaker 2: expect that that's what they would put you, but maybe not.
51:41
Speaker 2: I don't know. What do you think? I mean, you
51:47
Speaker 2: can't say that this is completely hypothetical to you as
51:49
Speaker 2: a Cub fan. I do recall the Cubs actually in
51:52
Speaker 2: a World Series that they managed to win barely, but
51:55
Speaker 2: they did manage to win it. I know they didn't,
52:00
Speaker 2: but imagine that they did. Yeah, in part because they've got,
52:07
Speaker 2: the Cubs have probably, nobody knows how many season ticket
52:10
Speaker 2: accounts the Brewers have because what they, the complicating thing is,
52:14
Speaker 2: if you buy a quarter of a season, in other words,
52:17
Speaker 2: 20 games, they count you as a quarter. So it
52:19
Speaker 2: would take four of those to equal, they call it
52:21
Speaker 2: season ticket equivalents. I buy an 81 game, so I
52:25
Speaker 2: have the whole thing. The Bucs do the same thing.
52:27
Speaker 2: They have 20 games and 10 packs and so on.
52:29
Speaker 2: I buy a full season slate for the Bucs. But
52:32
Speaker 2: the Cubs have a ton of season ticket holders. And
52:35
Speaker 2: you also want to give season ticket holders the opportunity
52:38
Speaker 2: to buy extra tickets because they've been season ticket holders
52:40
Speaker 2: all of these years. So you end up with not
52:45
Speaker 2: a lot of remaining available seats to do something like this,
52:48
Speaker 2: which of course they didn't really think about when they
52:50
Speaker 2: did their $ 1, 000 deal way back when. Interestingly, and it
52:54
Speaker 2: is interesting, The worst fans, it's always hard to say
52:58
Speaker 2: this right, the worst fans at baseball are Tampa Bay.
53:02
Speaker 2: I don't mean the fans who go. I mean the
53:04
Speaker 2: community of baseball people in Tampa Bay who do not
53:07
Speaker 2: go to games. They're a team that has been every
53:10
Speaker 2: bit as good as the Brewers for the last 25 years,
53:12
Speaker 2: and you look at a regular season game forever, they
53:13
Speaker 2: draw like 12,000 people. You can say they have a
53:16
Speaker 2: crappy stadium. Well, we had County Stadium forever. I get
53:18
Speaker 2: crappy stadiums. It's a bad location. I don't know what
53:21
Speaker 2: a bad location is. Is it in St. Petersburg? I
53:24
Speaker 2: think it is. So there aren't as many season ticket holders,
53:28
Speaker 2: meaning there's a more available inventory down there in Tampa,
53:32
Speaker 2: and there isn't this insane demand by people in Tampa
53:35
Speaker 2: to go. So if you go on SeatGeek, you can find,
53:38
Speaker 2: last I saw, tickets to games three, four, and five
53:41
Speaker 2: for like $ 1, 200, whereas a comparable ticket in Milwaukee is $ 3, 500.
53:46
Speaker 2: And what I think is, in fact, maybe there's already
53:50
Speaker 2: been stories of people planning to do this. I'm not
53:52
Speaker 2: saying this is any great insight. I think there's going
53:54
Speaker 2: to be a fair number of Brewer fans that are
53:55
Speaker 2: going to be down there because they're going to go
53:56
Speaker 2: and buy up these tickets on the secondary market, go
53:59
Speaker 2: watch the Brewers in Tampa. The Packers were just in
54:01
Speaker 2: Tampa for a game a couple of weeks ago. Packer
54:05
Speaker 2: fans have shown the willingness to go there. Plus, you've
54:07
Speaker 2: got Brewer fans who live in Florida. So they're going
54:09
Speaker 2: to snap up those tickets. The other thing about these
54:15
Speaker 2: prices that you see on SeatGeek, that doesn't mean they'll
54:18
Speaker 2: get them. That's what people are asking. You know, when
54:21
Speaker 2: I don't go to a game, I list my tickets.
54:24
Speaker 2: And you see all the time people asking insane amounts
54:27
Speaker 2: of money. I know what I can get when I
54:30
Speaker 2: list my tickets, and I'm always lower than everybody around me.
54:34
Speaker 2: So just because you see these things up there right
54:36
Speaker 2: now for, say, $ 5, 000 behind home plate, that doesn't mean
54:39
Speaker 2: they're going to sell. If you want to know what
54:41
Speaker 2: they're worth, see what they are 3.30, 4 o'clock Friday afternoon, two,
54:45
Speaker 2: three hours before game time. Because what tends to happen
54:48
Speaker 2: is the people who were looking for a fortune then
54:51
Speaker 2: lower their prices dramatically. And that's what the actual value
54:55
Speaker 2: of these things are. But as for the tickets I have, no,
54:59
Speaker 2: I'm going all four games. Never been to a World
55:02
Speaker 2: Series game. Have you? When you say clinch, you mean won?
55:11
Speaker 2: Won the World Series? Oh, that's right. The final game
55:18
Speaker 2: of the World Series was in Cleveland, wasn't it? In
55:22
Speaker 2: my memory, didn't Cleveland tie it in the bottom of
55:24
Speaker 2: the ninth and the Cubs got the winning run in
55:26
Speaker 2: the tenth? Tied it in the eighth, and then the
55:28
Speaker 2: Cubs went ahead in the ninth, right? It was the tenth. Oh,
55:33
Speaker 2: they tied it in the eighth. Neither team scored in
55:35
Speaker 2: the ninth. And the Cubs scored in the tenth, and
55:38
Speaker 2: Cleveland did not score in the bottom of the tenth. Yeah. Yeah. Well,
55:43
Speaker 2: I've never been to one. I was alive the year
55:47
Speaker 2: the Brewers won the World Series in 1957. Unlike now,
55:53
Speaker 2: where you actually see parents bring babies to these games.
55:57
Speaker 2: First of all, my parents were too cheap. They were
55:59
Speaker 2: not going to go to a World Series. Secondly, there's
56:01
Speaker 2: no way they're hauling my baby butt along down to
56:05
Speaker 2: that thing. The Braves went to World Series in 1958. Ditto.
56:11
Speaker 2: In 1982, I was living in Springfield, Illinois. I didn't
56:14
Speaker 2: have much money then. Weirdly, Springfield is only 100 miles
56:18
Speaker 2: from St. Louis. I was much closer to St. Louis
56:20
Speaker 2: than Milwaukee, but I didn't go to The Cardinal or
56:23
Speaker 2: the Brewers games, I didn't have the money. I was
56:25
Speaker 2: just so on. And that's the only one since. So
56:29
Speaker 2: I intend to go to all four games. I do
56:33
Speaker 2: believe this. I believe that Tampa is at least 50-50
56:36
Speaker 2: to win this series. You have, and this rarely happens,
56:39
Speaker 2: you have the best two teams in baseball showing up
56:41
Speaker 2: in the World Series. Almost always one or two fluke
56:45
Speaker 2: teams get in there that get hot in the postseason
56:47
Speaker 2: and Tampa had the best record in the American League
56:49
Speaker 2: and I think is the best team in the American League.
56:51
Speaker 2: The Brewers have the best record in the National League
56:53
Speaker 2: and clearly showed so far they are the best team
56:55
Speaker 2: in the National League. My fear here is games one
57:00
Speaker 2: and two, the two in Milwaukee, Tampa might have the
57:03
Speaker 2: superior pitching matchup. Game one, you've got Drew Rasmussen against
57:07
Speaker 2: Mizorowski and it really comes back to bite you. Tampa's
57:13
Speaker 2: number one and two starters are former Brewers. Drew Rasmussen
57:17
Speaker 2: was a Brewer. and Freddy Peralta was a Brewer his
57:19
Speaker 2: entire career until this year, Rasmussen has been, is he
57:24
Speaker 2: going to win the American League Cy Young? I mean,
57:29
Speaker 2: I paid not much attention. First of all, the whole
57:32
Speaker 2: American League sucked at everything this year. Rasmussen, over his
57:36
Speaker 2: last nine starts, his ERA is better than what Miz's is.
57:39
Speaker 2: Their season stats, Rasmussen's 18-5, Miz's 16-5. And the thing
57:45
Speaker 2: that scares me is Rasmussen goes longer in his games.
57:48
Speaker 2: Miz is not going five innings right now. His last
57:50
Speaker 2: nine starts, he's gone 44 innings. Now, you could say that,
57:56
Speaker 2: and the Brewers haven't needed Miz to go beyond five
57:58
Speaker 2: innings because they're both kind of so brilliant. I don't
58:00
Speaker 2: know if you can just count forever that no reliever's
58:03
Speaker 2: ever going to screw anything up. And game two, you
58:06
Speaker 2: again have Logan Henderson, who you wouldn't think would go
58:09
Speaker 2: many innings. It didn't in his first postseason game, going
58:12
Speaker 2: against Freddy Peralta, who, What a weird season he had.
58:16
Speaker 2: The Brewers traded to the Mets. He was maybe the
58:19
Speaker 2: worst starting pitcher in all of Major League Baseball with
58:21
Speaker 2: the Mets. He gets out of the rat hole that
58:24
Speaker 2: is the Mets, goes to Tampa, and is as good
58:27
Speaker 2: as anybody. The only mistake the Brewers made this year,
58:31
Speaker 2: they could have had, you know, everybody said you trade
58:33
Speaker 2: for Scooball. You would have had to give up Logan
58:35
Speaker 2: Henderson for Scooball. You wouldn't have had to give up
58:38
Speaker 2: much of anything for Freddy Peralta. Tampa made the deal.
58:41
Speaker 2: Not only would the Brewers have them, Tampa wouldn't if
58:44
Speaker 2: they had. I'm just worried about those first two starts,
58:47
Speaker 2: and I think it's going to be a very tough
58:48
Speaker 2: challenge for the Brewers to win this, which, of course,
58:51
Speaker 2: a World Series is going to be. It's never going
58:54
Speaker 2: to be a gimme for anybody. One other Brewer announcement.
58:58
Speaker 2: They've already announced who's... I had noted, no offense to
59:02
Speaker 2: the people who threw out the first ball for the
59:05
Speaker 2: NLDS and the NLCS, but I could tell this was
59:08
Speaker 2: not the first string of... first ball throwers. I think
59:11
Speaker 2: the Brewers were counting on a World Series because we
59:14
Speaker 2: didn't see one Robin Yount first ball throwing in either
59:17
Speaker 2: of these two series. He was holding out, and there
59:20
Speaker 2: wasn't a Bud Selig. Well, game one is Robin Yount
59:23
Speaker 2: and Bud Selig. Now, the last couple, those guys throw
59:26
Speaker 2: out the first ball in the postseason every year the
59:28
Speaker 2: Brewers are here, but they hadn't yet, and had we
59:31
Speaker 2: not won the NLCS and the Dodgers beating us, there
59:33
Speaker 2: wouldn't have been an opportunity for them to do so.
59:35
Speaker 2: So they're in game one, and I believe Paul Molitor
59:37
Speaker 2: is in game two. Also, there is a pregame concert
59:43
Speaker 2: being announced for American Family Field for game one, and
59:49
Speaker 2: it's perfect. The Violent Femmes, do you know the Violent Femmes?
59:53
Speaker 2: I've heard of them. Yeah, I mean, Violent Femmes are
1:00:00
Speaker 2: very good. Blister in the Sun's like a really good song.
1:00:04
Speaker 2: The rock and roll song's really, really good. The Violent Femmes,
1:00:09
Speaker 2: they came around a little bit after the Ramones. They're
1:00:11
Speaker 2: kind of like stripped out. They're probably classified as either
1:00:15
Speaker 2: punk or new wave, but they're basically core rock and roll.
1:00:18
Speaker 2: In other words, no horns. No horns. Bass section, a
1:00:21
Speaker 2: little bit raw sounding, but just spectacular. But they're Milwaukee's
1:00:24
Speaker 2: own band. They're going to play, it says, some 445
1:00:27
Speaker 2: to 515. There's no way. I go earlier in the
1:00:33
Speaker 2: postseason than I go in the regular season. My goal
1:00:35
Speaker 2: in the regular season is to plop my seat down
1:00:38
Speaker 2: when the first pitch is thrown. I have no patience.
1:00:44
Speaker 2: I'm going earlier. There's no way. The game's at 7 o'clock.
1:00:47
Speaker 2: There's no way I'm there at 445, so I'm not
1:00:49
Speaker 2: going to see the Femmes. I'll be there before like
1:00:52
Speaker 2: 6.30 and all of that, but I... Violent Femmes are
1:00:56
Speaker 2: going to play a pre-game concert at 4.45. All right,
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Speaker 2: let's move to this story. It's just not possible to
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Speaker 2: overstate what phony slimes the Democrats are. Phony and slime.
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Speaker 2: Let's start with phony. Obviously, of the two parties, they're
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Speaker 2: the ones that are softer on crime. They believe in
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Speaker 2: no cash bail. They believe defund the police. This is
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Speaker 2: the stuff they believe in. When people like me constantly
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Speaker 2: say that we're not sentencing people long enough, they're the
1:01:28
Speaker 2: ones that roll their eyes. Oh, yeah, roll away the key.
1:01:32
Speaker 2: They believe in restorative justice and all of that. So
1:01:37
Speaker 2: when it comes to a general election, however, they'll run
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Speaker 2: ads claiming it's the Republican that's soft on crime when
1:01:42
Speaker 2: we all know that it's the Democrats who believe in
1:01:44
Speaker 2: being soft on crime. So that's the part that's phony,
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Speaker 2: and now sly. There's a very famous criminal case from
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Speaker 2: Fond du Lac that we've talked about on my show
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Speaker 2: from time to time. It was one of those awful
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Speaker 2: cases of a woman that was killed in an ugly,
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Speaker 2: terrible fashion. She was missing for a long time, and
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Speaker 2: it went unsolved. This was Barrett Beck. There have been
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Speaker 2: a lot of those, and for some odd reason, Fond
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Speaker 2: du Lac has had more than its share. Fond du
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Speaker 2: Lac was the one with Gerald Turner, the Halloween killer
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Speaker 2: from 50 years ago. another guy that I have a
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Speaker 2: long history with, and I may have had something to
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Speaker 2: do with the creep going back to prison. Anyway, Barrett Beck.
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Speaker 2: She was murdered in 1990. The police had a suspect,
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Speaker 2: but they never had a lot... It's not the right
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Speaker 2: way to say it. They didn't have enough to cross
1:02:37
Speaker 2: the hurdle of reasonable doubt when you consider... The juries
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Speaker 2: are made up of the kind of idiots who wanted
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Speaker 2: to let the murderer from Tennessee skate. They ended up
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Speaker 2: making an arrest about a decade ago. And they ended
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Speaker 2: up cutting a plea bargain with the guy who was
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Speaker 2: identified as Dennis Bratner. They brought him to trial. They
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Speaker 2: actually tried him on intentional homicide charges. And the jury
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Speaker 2: was hung. So it's not like the Fond du Lac
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Speaker 2: County DA didn't try to hold this bastard accountable. They did.
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Speaker 2: But because there are a bunch of idiots on the
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Speaker 2: jury who couldn't put two and two together and couldn't
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Speaker 2: make the leap of faith, the circumstantial evidence might have
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Speaker 2: been enough. It was a hung jury. Hung jury doesn't
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Speaker 2: mean you walk. So what the Fond du Lac County
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Speaker 2: District Attorney's Office did is they reached a plea bargain
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Speaker 2: deal in which he would plead guilty to second-degree reckless homicide.
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Speaker 2: In fact, he didn't plead guilty. He pleaded no contest.
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Speaker 2: No contest, or in other states, they call it nolo contendere.
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Speaker 2: No contest means you accept that there's enough evidence that
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Speaker 2: you would be convicted, but you don't personally admit your guilt.
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Speaker 2: This will often happen when there's civil liabilities. And in
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Speaker 2: the case of Barrett Beck, her family would have sued
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Speaker 2: and tried to get, you know, whatever they can get
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Speaker 2: out of this guy and his estate, whatever funds that
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Speaker 2: he has and so on. So he pleaded no contest
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Speaker 2: to second degree reckless homicide and was sentenced to 10
1:04:24
Speaker 2: years in prison. Eric Toney, who's the Republican candidate for
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Speaker 2: attorney general of Wisconsin, wasn't even the DA then. He
1:04:33
Speaker 2: was an assistant in that office. There's an ad running
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Speaker 2: right now on behalf of Josh Call, the incumbent Democratic
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Speaker 2: Attorney General of Wisconsin, blasting Eric Toney for this sweetheart
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Speaker 2: deal that allowed Barrett Beck's murderer to get away with
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Speaker 2: only the 10 years. A, Toney was at the DA.
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Speaker 2: He was on the prosecution team. B, it was clearly
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Speaker 2: the best thing they could get, and they actually tried
1:05:05
Speaker 2: to convict him at trial. Beyond that, the family of
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Speaker 2: Barrett Beck today came out and condemned this ad saying,
1:05:15
Speaker 2: we were aware of the plea bargain terms and we
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Speaker 2: accepted them. And they are blasting Josh Call and the
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Speaker 2: Democrats for trying to make hay out of this case. So,
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Speaker 2: phony slimes. The phoniness of claiming that they're the side
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Speaker 2: that's tough on crime, whereas everybody knows Eric Toney's a
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Speaker 2: tough DA, and everybody knows that Josh Call is a lenient,
1:05:36
Speaker 2: bleeding-heart lefty attorney general. And then the slimy factor of this.
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Speaker 2: misleading people about the facts of the case and then
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Speaker 2: bringing up the sad Barrett Beck case and somehow claiming
1:05:46
Speaker 2: that the final DA's office was soft in this case, whereas,
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Speaker 2: in fact, I don't think many DA's offices would have
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Speaker 2: even brought these charges 28 years later with the evidence
1:05:54
Speaker 2: that they had. They did everything in their power to
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Speaker 2: convict this guy, and they did get him locked up
1:05:59
Speaker 2: for 10 years. Now this story. I'd like to thank
1:06:06
Speaker 2: a listener for drawing it to my attention. When school
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Speaker 2: districts have these referendums, they often hire this shady surveying
1:06:15
Speaker 2: firm called School Perceptions that we've done stories about this,
1:06:18
Speaker 2: including in the recent past. They'll send out a survey
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Speaker 2: in which they stack the deck about the information about
1:06:25
Speaker 2: the referendum and then produce a biased survey. And then
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Speaker 2: the school board says, well, we've got this survey here.
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Speaker 2: Does it admit it's biased and say, well, see, we've
1:06:33
Speaker 2: got support for the referendums. One of the communities that
1:06:37
Speaker 2: was suckered into this is Muskego. Muskego is a conservative community,
1:06:41
Speaker 2: but when it comes to overspending and raising property taxes,
1:06:45
Speaker 2: they're as bad as anybody. There was a referendum a
1:06:49
Speaker 2: decade ago in Muskego on building a new school. Now,
1:06:53
Speaker 2: they always argue that one of the reasons we have
1:06:55
Speaker 2: to build a new school is the school that we
1:06:57
Speaker 2: have now is dilapidated and beyond repair. I mean, you
1:07:02
Speaker 2: should see some of these schools. The school I went
1:07:07
Speaker 2: to high school in was built, I think, in the
1:07:09
Speaker 2: 1920s or something. It looked like it was older than that.
1:07:12
Speaker 2: Then there were additions built onto it and the whole thing.
1:07:15
Speaker 2: They're finally closing it now. There's nothing wrong with that school.
1:07:19
Speaker 2: You could use that school today. In fact, I think
1:07:23
Speaker 2: they might still use it today. I forget. The old
1:07:26
Speaker 2: high school is now the middle school. I think they
1:07:28
Speaker 2: are still using it. Anyway, they always claim that the
1:07:31
Speaker 2: school can't be used. It's just falling apart. It's almost
1:07:37
Speaker 2: always crap. We've got buildings around this country that are
1:07:43
Speaker 2: 200 years old and they're perfectly functional. It's only schools
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Speaker 2: that somehow when they get to be like 40 years
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Speaker 2: old somehow, they're just too old. Schools and sports stadiums.
1:07:54
Speaker 2: That's the other one, right? So, they passed a referendum
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Speaker 2: on Third time around in 2016. This is one of
1:08:09
Speaker 2: those cases where they voted it down in Muskego, then
1:08:11
Speaker 2: they voted it down again. Finally, in 2016, they passed it.
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Speaker 2: And the purpose of the referendum was to replace Muskego
1:08:20
Speaker 2: Elementary School and build a new school, which they did.
1:08:26
Speaker 2: In the survey that was sent out 10 years ago, 2016,
1:08:30
Speaker 2: By school perceptions, they pointed out that the current school
1:08:33
Speaker 2: was simply too worn down and it would cost too
1:08:35
Speaker 2: much to fix it, and you're better off just building
1:08:38
Speaker 2: the new school. Now, why do I bring this up? Well, again,
1:08:43
Speaker 2: I admit I haven't paid attention to what happened to
1:08:46
Speaker 2: schools that they closed over the years. We've got a
1:08:49
Speaker 2: bunch of empty school buildings that MPS has that they
1:08:51
Speaker 2: won't sell because they don't want private schools to take
1:08:53
Speaker 2: them over. But I don't get to Muskego all that much.
1:08:57
Speaker 2: I don't know what happened at the old elementary school.
1:08:59
Speaker 2: I know doggone well that Jason has no idea what
1:09:01
Speaker 2: happened at the old elementary school in Muskego. But this
1:09:04
Speaker 2: is the school that they said was so beaten up
1:09:06
Speaker 2: that you can't use it for a school. Do you
1:09:11
Speaker 2: know what that school is right now? It's a senior
1:09:16
Speaker 2: living place. They converted it into senior housing. By the way,
1:09:22
Speaker 2: this has been done with a lot of schools, not
1:09:24
Speaker 2: just senior housing. You'll see like condos and townhouses created.
1:09:28
Speaker 2: They'll take a school building, and the exterior of the
1:09:30
Speaker 2: building is in great shape, and a construction company will
1:09:33
Speaker 2: come in and knock down a few walls and add
1:09:36
Speaker 2: additional toilets and plumbing and all of that stuff and
1:09:38
Speaker 2: convert it into housing. Muskego Elementary... has been a housing
1:09:46
Speaker 2: complex ever since. So this building that was somehow too
1:09:50
Speaker 2: dilapidated to have kids sit at a desk and look
1:09:52
Speaker 2: at a teacher standing in front of the classroom is
1:09:55
Speaker 2: perfectly fine for a developer to turn a profit by
1:10:00
Speaker 2: converting the thing into housing. So whenever they tell you
1:10:03
Speaker 2: that these schools are just so old, it's because there's
1:10:06
Speaker 2: all sorts of incentive to build a new school. Building
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Speaker 2: a new school means you get to hire a design firm,
1:10:12
Speaker 2: an architecture, it's the same crap they're trying to tell
1:10:15
Speaker 2: the people at Arrowhead. You get to hire a design firm,
1:10:22
Speaker 2: an architectural firm, an engineering firm. Then you get all
1:10:24
Speaker 2: the construction jobs. There's bonds that are issued. Some firm
1:10:28
Speaker 2: is going to issue the bonds on the whole thing.
1:10:30
Speaker 2: And the superintendent then gets to have a sparkly new
1:10:33
Speaker 2: building to go into. And the parents can all beam, oh,
1:10:36
Speaker 2: we got a new building that in 30 years they're
1:10:38
Speaker 2: going to claim is too old and we have to
1:10:39
Speaker 2: raise your taxes again. I'm sure there are cases of
1:10:44
Speaker 2: school buildings that are so falling apart and so beaten
1:10:47
Speaker 2: up that you can't use them anymore. I would argue
1:10:54
Speaker 2: that those would be in the minority rather than the majority.
1:10:56
Speaker 2: And finally, this story. Microsoft is going to build another
1:11:00
Speaker 2: data center in Racine County. Microsoft has a huge data
1:11:05
Speaker 2: center currently operating right on the southern edge of the county,
1:11:08
Speaker 2: south of 11 and north of KR in Mount Pleasant.
1:11:14
Speaker 2: Microsoft is now buying a property nearby in Sturdivant. Sturdivant
1:11:20
Speaker 2: is a little bit to the, just a little bit
1:11:23
Speaker 2: to the north and west of the current Microsoft data center.
1:11:28
Speaker 2: For example, the prison in Racine is actually in Sturtevant.
1:11:32
Speaker 2: You can see the prison. Can you see it from
1:11:34
Speaker 2: the freeway? I'm not sure once you said that. So
1:11:37
Speaker 2: Sturtevant is near the interstate, but a little bit to
1:11:40
Speaker 2: the north and a little bit to the west of
1:11:42
Speaker 2: this site. In that community, Sturtevant, Microsoft is buying a building.
1:11:47
Speaker 2: Somebody else couldn't make a go of it. It was
1:11:48
Speaker 2: the old United Natural Foods. I think it was a
1:11:51
Speaker 2: distribution center. They're building that and they're going to convert
1:11:54
Speaker 2: that into a data center. Now, I don't know if
1:11:57
Speaker 2: there's going to be pushback to this, but this just
1:11:59
Speaker 2: shows you this boom that is going on in our
1:12:02
Speaker 2: economy with these data centers. The amount that's going to
1:12:05
Speaker 2: be spent on construction converting these. By the way, if
1:12:08
Speaker 2: that distribution center was owned by a school, I'm sure
1:12:11
Speaker 2: they would say that it's dilapidated and has to be
1:12:13
Speaker 2: torn down. Here, Microsoft's going to take the thing and
1:12:15
Speaker 2: turn it into a data center. So with all the
1:12:19
Speaker 2: controversy over data centers and so on, the reality is
1:12:23
Speaker 2: The demand for these things and the amount of people
1:12:25
Speaker 2: that are going to be working in them, the jobs
1:12:27
Speaker 2: that are going to be created, this is, in my opinion,
1:12:30
Speaker 2: the new industrial revolution. I have various positions on this
1:12:34
Speaker 2: where you have to look out for the public, and
1:12:36
Speaker 2: that means I am a supporter of requiring the data
1:12:39
Speaker 2: centers to contract with or build their own power plants. It, A,
1:12:43
Speaker 2: helps us deal with the fact that the grid is
1:12:45
Speaker 2: going to be shorted, and secondly, helps us create, solve
1:12:49
Speaker 2: many of our energy needs by simply encouraging these companies
1:12:51
Speaker 2: that aren't utility companies to put up their own power plants.
1:12:56
Speaker 2: And if they make them nuclear, all the better. I
1:12:58
Speaker 2: don't know that that's going to happen, but it would
1:13:00
Speaker 2: solve a lot of our problems. You're listening to the
1:13:02
Speaker 2: Mark Belling Podcast. This is the Mark Belling Podcast. I'm
1:13:10
Speaker 2: pretty sure I can still say I'm the only Milwaukee
1:13:12
Speaker 2: radio personality ever to win a Marconi. I don't know
1:13:16
Speaker 2: that anybody– I always say to my knowledge, but I've
1:13:19
Speaker 2: never heard of anybody else winning one. The Marconi Award
1:13:22
Speaker 2: is given to the best broadcaster in America. They break
1:13:26
Speaker 2: it up by market size, and then they give a
1:13:27
Speaker 2: Marconi to the best radio station in America. I won
1:13:31
Speaker 2: my Marconi. They always give them away in New Orleans.
1:13:35
Speaker 2: I don't even remember the year. And as I've explained
1:13:41
Speaker 2: many times, I think I'm the only guy in the
1:13:42
Speaker 2: history of the Marconis not to show up to accept
1:13:44
Speaker 2: his own award. I still have the videotape. They read
1:13:48
Speaker 2: my name, and they're looking around and looking around and
1:13:50
Speaker 2: looking around, and I guess he's not here. He wasn't there.
1:13:54
Speaker 2: I keep thinking I lost the Marconi, and then I
1:13:57
Speaker 2: found it a couple of times. I still have the Marconi,
1:14:00
Speaker 2: but I lose track of where it is every now
1:14:03
Speaker 2: and then. But I won it. It was like 98, 99, 00, 01,
1:14:08
Speaker 2: somewhere in that period, I won the Marconi as the
1:14:11
Speaker 2: best broadcaster in America, which, you know, okay. I don't
1:14:15
Speaker 2: know that anybody else ever has in Milwaukee. Now, if
1:14:19
Speaker 2: someone has, I'm not saying, I just don't know that.
1:14:22
Speaker 2: I just think that whoever that was would be yapping
1:14:24
Speaker 2: about it. I hardly ever bring it up myself. But
1:14:26
Speaker 2: can you imagine, like, a Bob and Brian one-on-one? They'd
1:14:29
Speaker 2: be insufferable. Like, let's imagine you were one of them, Jason.
1:14:35
Speaker 2: You'd be going on and on and on about the thing.
1:14:40
Speaker 2: Imagine if O'Donnell won one of them. He'd have that
1:14:43
Speaker 2: thing right here in the studio. I mean, he'd have
1:14:45
Speaker 2: it locked behind glass in the studio. He wouldn't even
1:14:47
Speaker 2: take it home because he'd want the rest of us
1:14:49
Speaker 2: to have to look at the thing every time we
1:14:51
Speaker 2: walked in and out of the building and so on. Anyway,
1:14:53
Speaker 2: I bring this up because somebody who used to work
1:14:56
Speaker 2: in radio in Milwaukee that many of you have heard
1:14:58
Speaker 2: of is Wanda Marconi. She's not in Milwaukee anymore. So
1:15:01
Speaker 2: when I say in Milwaukee, I mean you wanted for
1:15:04
Speaker 2: work you did while in Milwaukee. I don't mean somebody
1:15:08
Speaker 2: who grew up here and then got one in New
1:15:09
Speaker 2: York City or something. But Karen D'Alessandro, who worked for
1:15:13
Speaker 2: our sister station, FM 106, she worked with Scott Dolphin
1:15:16
Speaker 2: on the morning show for a number of years. After
1:15:20
Speaker 2: she left FM 106, I don't even think I knew this,
1:15:24
Speaker 2: she went to WKTI and then went to WKLH. But
1:15:28
Speaker 2: she left Milwaukee like 10 years ago, maybe a little
1:15:31
Speaker 2: bit less than that, a number of years ago. She's
1:15:33
Speaker 2: been in Phoenix for many years. And She won a
1:15:36
Speaker 2: Marconi for Best Large Market Radio Personality in America for
1:15:40
Speaker 2: the station that she works for in Phoenix. So congratulations
1:15:45
Speaker 2: to her. That's it. Reminder that the podcast we do tomorrow, Thursday,
1:15:51
Speaker 2: the final segment will be our football preview and our
1:15:53
Speaker 2: point spread picks. I'll be talking to you then. Bye.
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