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The Ugly Truth About Mother’s Day · Outspoken the Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Hello and welcome to the Mums Group you actually want
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  Speaker 1: to be a part of. I'm Sophie Torber and I'm
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  Speaker 1: joined by my triplet sisters and journalists, Kate and Amy.
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  Speaker 2: Amy, I can't believe it.
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  Speaker 1: You're entering the podcast now as a toddler mum. I know,
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  Speaker 1: it feels so weird and I wondered how I was
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  Speaker 1: going to feel when I put Harry down for his
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  Speaker 1: last sleep of being a baby because I'd seen all
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  Speaker 1: these videos of parents crying as they rocked their baby
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  Speaker 1: to sleep.
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  Speaker 2: I must admit, I was bawling my eyes out.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it was, I don't know, Dale and I were
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  Speaker 1: taking all these photos of him and it was just
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  Speaker 1: something so weird about Harry going down at night as
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  Speaker 1: a baby and waking up as a toddler. See, I
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  Speaker 1: didn't even get the opportunity to be sentimental about it
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  Speaker 1: because the day before Jack turned one was the day
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  Speaker 1: Sophie's son Luca was born. So we were there late
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  Speaker 1: at the hospital. I think Rhys actually took him home
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  Speaker 1: and put him down.
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  Speaker 2: For his sleep.
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  Speaker 1: That's kind of symbolic though, because it's like, hey, there's
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  Speaker 1: a new baby.
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  Speaker 3: There's a new baby in town.
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  Speaker 1: Well, what was weird was I was surprised I even
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  Speaker 1: had time, as you said, to be so sentimental because
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  Speaker 1: I was doing the whole.
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  Speaker 2: I did balloons that said happy birthday.
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  Speaker 1: I was making the party hats for all of Harry's
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  Speaker 1: soft toys to greet him in the morning. Isn't there
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  Speaker 1: so much pressure now because of TikTok? Because now it's
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  Speaker 1: like TikTok knows that I'm about to have a one-year-old
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  Speaker 1: as well because I keep getting fed all of those videos,
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  Speaker 1: as you say, of the little toys with their perfect
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  Speaker 1: party hats and the helium balloons.
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  Speaker 2: And you're like, oh my God, when am I going
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  Speaker 2: to organize that?
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  Speaker 1: Well, the mum guilt struck me the day before Harry's party.
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  Speaker 1: And I looked at all his presents and I was like,
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  Speaker 1: this is not enough. So I panic bought a ride
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  Speaker 1: on motorbike and it said it was for three to
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  Speaker 1: six year olds. And I'd previously bought him a ride
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  Speaker 1: on car and I was like, it'll be fine.
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  Speaker 2: It will have a remote control. This thing arrived.
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  Speaker 3: I say it arrived.
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  Speaker 2: My mum picked it up for me. It did not
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  Speaker 2: have a remote control.
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  Speaker 1: And I realised quickly when Harry opened it, that his
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  Speaker 1: legs didn't even reach the pedal.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: It's even too big for Jack. Like he was, he's
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  Speaker 3: scared of it.
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  Speaker 1: But I also said I would never be a mom
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  Speaker 1: that encouraged motorbikes because my husband Dale loves motorbikes.
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  Speaker 2: The thought of Harry riding a motorbike.
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  Speaker 1: As 20 something, yeah, real one terrifies me, but I've
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  Speaker 1: been out there. I've actually taught Harry to press down
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  Speaker 1: on the pedal. Somehow he managed, he's managed to do
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  Speaker 1: it with his toe. I mean, house has literally become
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  Speaker 1: Disneyland for our kids because they come over. There's like,
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  Speaker 1: all these cars in the backyard, motorbikes. Harry got a
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  Speaker 1: DJ set. You went absolutely nuts because a lot of
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  Speaker 1: people say, oh, don't even bother about giving them presents
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  Speaker 1: for their first birthday. They're just like whisks and just household.
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  Speaker 2: Items, but you went absolutely nuts.
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  Speaker 1: Well, Dale got him the DJ set and I've got
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  Speaker 1: to say to any other mums looking for first birthday presents,
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  Speaker 1: that was a real winner because if you have a
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  Speaker 1: baby and they get distracted easily when you're feeding them,
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  Speaker 1: The DJ set is the best.
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  Speaker 3: Get them on the decks? Yeah, get them on the decks.
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  Speaker 2: Wouldn't that distract them more though? No, they get distracted
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  Speaker 2: and will just take it, like eat anything.
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  Speaker 1: I see. I wasn't present in the last two Mums
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  Speaker 1: Group meetings and I listened to last week's episode and
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  Speaker 1: I was like, wow, Kate, you gave Amy an absolutely
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  Speaker 1: grilling over the birthday preparation. I felt kind of sorry
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  Speaker 1: for you, Amy, because, you know, in Kate's giving it
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  Speaker 1: to Kate, your party.
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  Speaker 3: Was a big success. Well, probably because of my advice. Wait,
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  Speaker 3: I didn't see your cupcakes.
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  Speaker 2: All I felt was being slammed.
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  Speaker 3: I didn't hear anything.
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  Speaker 1: No, I was just saying make sure you don't bite
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  Speaker 1: off more than you can chew. And on the cupcake thing,
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  Speaker 1: I offered and she said she didn't want me to.
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  Speaker 1: I feel like the party was a success, so thank you, Sophie,
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  Speaker 1: for saying that. But I've got to admit, I had
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  Speaker 1: some pretty late nights on Saturday and Sunday night. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: to be fair to me, what time did you stay
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  Speaker 1: up to the day before the party?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, but I knew I would do this.
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  Speaker 1: So on Friday night, I stayed up till 2am and
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  Speaker 1: then on the Saturday night before the party, I stayed
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  Speaker 1: up till 3am and most of that time was spent
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  Speaker 1: making these balloon garlands.
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  Speaker 2: Which I didn't even remember to take a photo of
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  Speaker 2: or film.
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  Speaker 1: Hats off to you because the garland looked really good.
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  Speaker 1: But that's what I was just trying to save you from,
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  Speaker 1: like having a really late night because then it ruins
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  Speaker 1: the party. But were you feeling okay the day of
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  Speaker 1: the party?
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  Speaker 2: I was absolutely fine. I must have had like complete
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  Speaker 2: adrenaline going through my body.
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  Speaker 1: It was hilarious because- I have previously said how.
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  Speaker 2: Dale, he means so well. He and I are so similar.
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  Speaker 1: So we both bite off more than we could chew.
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  Speaker 1: I think you secretly love it. You love the rush
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  Speaker 1: before the party, the last minute planning.
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  Speaker 2: But we've been having all these renovations going on.
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  Speaker 1: And I said to him, look, remember this party, like
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  Speaker 1: we need to focus on the food, the balloons, setting
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  Speaker 1: up the backyard.
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  Speaker 2: And where did I find Dale? So the morning of
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  Speaker 2: the party, he decided to remove one of the doors
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  Speaker 2: to the shed. And he painted the doorframe. That was
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  Speaker 2: really important.
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  Speaker 1: And his sister came over an hour before the party started.
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  Speaker 1: And they both went really quiet because previously they'd been
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  Speaker 1: asking me if there was anything they could do to help.
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  Speaker 1: And I realised they were cleaning out our shed, which
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  Speaker 1: has been turned into.
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  Speaker 2: A rumpus room.
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  Speaker 3: And I was like, this is the last- It was
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  Speaker 3: like a granny flat, really, your shed.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: This is the last thing we needed.
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  Speaker 1: So I'm inside making two of the Women's Weekly cakes
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  Speaker 1: because my first attempt completely failed. Anyone that follows me
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  Speaker 1: on Instagram would have seen this disgusting chocolate cake. I
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  Speaker 1: was getting a bit worried when I saw your Instagram
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  Speaker 1: stories popping up, particularly late on the Saturday night. I
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  Speaker 1: heard that you had to do some panicked online shop.
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  Speaker 1: Did you get the Woolies mud cakes or something? No,
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  Speaker 1: I ordered some vanilla cake mix because I had tried
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  Speaker 1: to use the Betty Crocker Devil's.
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  Speaker 3: Chocolate cake, which I used up so much.
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  Speaker 2: Works for the one. It doesn't work if you're trying
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  Speaker 2: to carve out the shape of a car. And I've
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  Speaker 2: got a.
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  Speaker 1: Bone to pick with the Women's Weekly editor. Those instructions
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  Speaker 1: are absolutely deplorable. Well, that's why they used to actually
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  Speaker 1: have a hotline set up back in the 90s and
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  Speaker 1: you could actually ring up and be like, hey, I'm
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  Speaker 1: having trouble with the racing car. Do you reckon anyone
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  Speaker 1: actually rung up though? Because Back in the day, no
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  Speaker 1: one ever wanted to spend money on their phone bill. Also,
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  Speaker 1: let's be honest, people probably weren't making the cakes during
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  Speaker 1: your regular business hours and there wouldn't have been someone
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  Speaker 1: manning the phones at 3am for Amy. Well, I saw
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  Speaker 1: this ABC show and it was all on the Women's
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  Speaker 1: Weekly Cookbook and they interviewed the editor of it, Pamela Clark,
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  Speaker 1: and she said they had six lines, like phone lines,
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  Speaker 1: that went to the testing kitchen.
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  Speaker 2: So this kitchen was for all of.
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  Speaker 1: The Women's Weekly recipes, not just for the cake. And
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  Speaker 1: she said about like 50% were panicked parents. And They
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  Speaker 1: did ring in business hours because they'd say, oh, my God,
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  Speaker 1: I stayed up all night trying to make this cake.
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  Speaker 1: And there was this really funny clip where this editor, Pamela,
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  Speaker 1: she was tasked with making the truck, so it's like
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  Speaker 1: the tip truck, and she said, you know, the boss
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  Speaker 1: had said, look, we really want a tip truck. So
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  Speaker 1: she designed this thing and she.
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  Speaker 2: Told everyone, do not even attempt it. Let's throw to
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  Speaker 2: a grab of what she said because it was just
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  Speaker 2: so funny.
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  Speaker 5: Oh, tip truck cake, bitch of a cake, don't make it.
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  Speaker 2: Unless you're really desperate.
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  Speaker 1: It's funny because I know that book back to front,
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  Speaker 1: but I actually can't even think of that cake because
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  Speaker 1: it was never on my radar as a little girl.
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  Speaker 3: It was in the boys section.
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  Speaker 2: So that might have been why. Is this my.
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  Speaker 1: Sign not to even bother with a woman's weekly cake?
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  Speaker 1: I mean, this is just giving me a bit of anxiety.
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  Speaker 3: Do the one. The one is so simple.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, the one is easy.
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  Speaker 1: I came across a Facebook page that was dedicated to
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  Speaker 1: the women's weekly birthday cakes. And I was hoping this
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  Speaker 1: page would make me feel better about my own sort
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  Speaker 1: of failed attempt. But all of the people sharing photos,
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  Speaker 1: their cakes looked incredible and they gave.
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  Speaker 2: Some really good tips. So this might help you.
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  Speaker 1: They said, don't even attempt to make the packet cake.
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  Speaker 1: Just buy the pre-made vanilla slab cake. And also don't
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  Speaker 1: bother to make your icing. just buy pre-made icing because
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  Speaker 1: it's all.
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  Speaker 2: About decorating the cake.
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  Speaker 1: But then again, are you even making, like what's the
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  Speaker 1: point of making the cake then? It's still decorating the
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  Speaker 1: cake and it's iconic. I mean, think about how many
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  Speaker 1: memories we have attached to this cookbook. I actually don't
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  Speaker 1: agree with the pre-made icing. I'm a bit against it
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  Speaker 1: like I am against box cakes. I also don't think
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  Speaker 1: you should follow the recipe in the Women's Weekly Cookbook
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  Speaker 1: for the icing. I think you should go and find
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  Speaker 1: a top rated buttercream icing recipe.
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  Speaker 4: I have a.
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  Speaker 3: Fantastic cake lady.
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  Speaker 1: I used her for my engagement party, my wedding, my
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  Speaker 1: baby shower, and everyone's always loved the cakes and actually
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  Speaker 1: eats them.
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  Speaker 2: No one eats any of.
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  Speaker 3: These women's weekly cakes. People ate my cake.
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  Speaker 2: But do you know what?
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  Speaker 1: When I brought those cakes out, the kids who were
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  Speaker 1: at the party, they swarmed me.
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  Speaker 2: They were like, oh, my God.
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  Speaker 3: The cake.
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  Speaker 1: One of the kids was like, smarty cake, smarty cake,
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  Speaker 1: smarty cake. Well, I think you should think more about
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  Speaker 1: making one of the women's weekly cakes, Soph, because I
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  Speaker 1: think it's a rite of passage for.
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  Speaker 2: Every mum to attempt it.
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  Speaker 1: And I don't know whether I was just exhausted from
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  Speaker 1: the birthday party, but in that Women's Weekly ABC special,
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  Speaker 1: I saw this clip and I nearly burst into tears.
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  Speaker 1: Let's have a listen to what the editor, Pamela, said.
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  Speaker 5: The kids don't care about the details, how messy it
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  Speaker 5: might look, the fact that the icing doesn't go right
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  Speaker 5: down to the board. The child realises that it is
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  Speaker 5: probably the greatest expression of love.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, okay.
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  Speaker 2: That has won me over.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe I'll do the Molly May and I'll make the
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  Speaker 1: sort of crappy homemade cake and then have a purchase
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  Speaker 1: cake on standby for all the adults to eat. So
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  Speaker 1: you've still got the magic, but you're still also got
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  Speaker 1: something that's edible.
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  Speaker 3: And just pick a design that's easy.
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  Speaker 2: Like you can tell.
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  Speaker 1: The pool I reckon is the easiest one. But you're
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  Speaker 1: doing the farmyard theme, aren't you? You could just do
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  Speaker 1: the flat cake and what is it?
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  Speaker 3: Like the coconut. Literally coconut.
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  Speaker 1: And then buy the plastic farmyard animals.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, perfect.
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  Speaker 3: I'll give that one a go.
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  Speaker 6: Baby dove, hallelujah. Sleep deprivation, hallelujah. Three hours sleep last.
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  Speaker 7: Night, hallelujah. I'm breastfeeding so no Botox, hallelujah. Ah, biting
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  Speaker 7: my shoulder, hallelujah. Blowing my hair, hallelujah. It's falling out
• 9:38
  Speaker 7: in clumps in the shower, hallelujah.
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  Speaker 1: A debate is raging across social media sparked by influencer
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  Speaker 1: G Bungalow on whether or not you need to visit
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  Speaker 1: your own mother and your mother-in-law on Mother's Day or
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  Speaker 1: whether those of us mums who are currently in the
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  Speaker 1: trenches should be the ones being celebrated. Now, G Bungalow
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  Speaker 1: shared a real giving thanks husbands and partners a heads
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  Speaker 1: up of what mums actually want for Mother's Day and
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  Speaker 1: the perfect way they should be celebrated.
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  Speaker 3: Let's take a listen.
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  Speaker 8: This is a guide to husbands everywhere on how to
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  Speaker 8: give your partner, the mother of your children, the perfect
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  Speaker 8: Mother's Day.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, number one, don't ask her what she wants. You
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  Speaker 4: know her. Plan it. Okay? Think. You know this woman.
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  Speaker 8: He is the right balance of alone time and quality
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  Speaker 8: family time. It's not that mums don't want.
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  Speaker 4: To see their kids on Mother's Day.
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  Speaker 8: It's that we want to be relieved from the monotonous
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  Speaker 8: work of mothering. No chores, groceries, meal prep, laundry, et cetera. No,
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  Speaker 8: get it done the day before. You can do it
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  Speaker 8: on Saturday. You can do it on Monday. It's a
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  Speaker 8: no-chores Sunday. You get up to the kids and do breakfast, nappies,
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  Speaker 8: all of the things, and let her sleep in. So
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  Speaker 8: if the kids wake up and they're calling out and
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  Speaker 8: they want this and they want that, that's you.
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  Speaker 4: You are doing that on that day. And close the door.
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  Speaker 4: Close the door so she can kind of get a
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  Speaker 4: bit of a sleep in.
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  Speaker 8: Okay, a small thoughtful gift wrapped with a handmade card
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  Speaker 8: from the kids.
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  Speaker 4: And here's the kicker, a card from you, the adult
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  Speaker 4: as well.
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  Speaker 8: Thanking her for everything she does for the family. I personally,
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  Speaker 8: not too fussed on whatever the gift is. It doesn't
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  Speaker 8: need to be large. It doesn't need to be expensive.
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  Speaker 8: What I care about is that I get a little
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  Speaker 8: card from my kids that they've made with their dad
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  Speaker 8: and that he writes me a card thanking me for
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  Speaker 8: being the mum to our children.
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  Speaker 4: So that's a tip. Family breakfast. Either cook it at
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  Speaker 4: home or go out, pending her preference. Again, you know her.
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  Speaker 4: Does she want to have breakfast at home or would
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  Speaker 4: she prefer to go out? If the answer is go out,
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  Speaker 4: book it right now. Get off your phone and book
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  Speaker 4: it right now.
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  Speaker 8: Then we're going to do a short family activity, like
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  Speaker 8: a play at the park, a walk.
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  Speaker 4: Around the markets, that kind of thing. You know, I'm
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  Speaker 4: thinking an hour.
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  Speaker 8: We're out in the sunshine, hopefully it's sunshiny, and we're
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  Speaker 8: having quality family time. You're going to take photos of
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  Speaker 8: her with her kids in candid moments, OK? You're going
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  Speaker 8: to take them at the right angle, you're going to
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  Speaker 8: put them on live mode so that she can adjust
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  Speaker 8: to make the candidness great.
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  Speaker 4: You're going to take photos of her. Pending your kids'
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  Speaker 4: nap schedules.
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  Speaker 8: You are going to go out with the children and
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  Speaker 8: leave her at home.
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  Speaker 4: Leave her at home by herself for at least 90 minutes.
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  Speaker 4: That's the rule. And again, no chores.
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  Speaker 8: Day is going to end by you sending her off
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  Speaker 8: for an early dinner and drinks with her girlfriends at 4.30.
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  Speaker 4: 4.30, they can have a few cocktails, they can have
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  Speaker 4: a few mocktails.
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  Speaker 8: Then they're going to have an early dinner. Ideally, chat
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  Speaker 8: to the dads and the mums can all get together
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  Speaker 8: and go out together. She's going to miss dinner bath bed. Again,
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  Speaker 8: I'm saying, we want to see our kids. We don't
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  Speaker 8: want to do... all of the demands of the everyday
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  Speaker 8: you know then you're going to win partner of the
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  Speaker 8: year she feels well looked after she feels loved and
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  Speaker 8: she deserves it so here you go women send this
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  Speaker 8: to your partner.
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  Speaker 1: G Bungalow's take on Mother's Day really blew my mind
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  Speaker 1: because as a kid our Mother's Day always consisted of
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  Speaker 1: so in the morning we made mum breakfast in bed
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  Speaker 1: it was often not very nice And then we would
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  Speaker 1: go and visit our nana and our grandma for Mother's Day.
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  Speaker 1: So it was a busy day.
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  Speaker 3: You were in the car a lot. You were visiting
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  Speaker 3: all your rallies.
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  Speaker 1: I never really sat back to think that, hey, maybe
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  Speaker 1: mum wanted a bit of a break on Mother's Day.
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  Speaker 1: Like I've always thought it's just a day that you
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  Speaker 1: see a lot of family.
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  Speaker 3: It's not really a day where mums actually get to relax.
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  Speaker 1: You also assume that mums want to spend Mother's Day
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  Speaker 1: with their kids, but it sounds like some of them
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  Speaker 1: want a bit of a break and a day off.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, absolutely no judgment there. I think it just
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  Speaker 1: depends how you're used to celebrating the day because I
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  Speaker 1: would feel so incredibly guilty if I didn't see my
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  Speaker 1: mum or my mother-in-law.
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  Speaker 3: That is just non-negotiable for me or my kids.
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  Speaker 1: I agree because I'd never seen Mother's Day framed that
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  Speaker 1: way and I thought she's 100% right. Being a first-time mum,
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  Speaker 1: I remember last Mother's Day feeling absolutely exhausted and To
• 13:47
  Speaker 1: be honest, I didn't really feel like the day was
• 13:49
  Speaker 1: about me. I felt like it was about all of
• 13:51
  Speaker 1: the mothers in my life. And G Bungalow mentioned that
• 13:55
  Speaker 1: a good idea for husbands is to let your wives
• 13:57
  Speaker 1: go out at 4.30pm with their mum friends, have the
• 14:01
  Speaker 1: night off, go to dinner. And I thought that is
• 14:03
  Speaker 1: such a great idea because this is the only day
• 14:06
  Speaker 1: really mums are celebrating.
• 14:08
  Speaker 2: Do you know what?
• 14:09
  Speaker 1: Or you give them a present that symbolises some me time,
• 14:12
  Speaker 1: whether it's a massage, whether it's a hotel voucher, I
• 14:17
  Speaker 1: would voucher to a nice dinner out. What I don't
• 14:20
  Speaker 1: get about the whole concept of Mother's Day is that
• 14:22
  Speaker 1: why do we feel so much pressure for it to
• 14:24
  Speaker 1: all be packed into one day? Like my thought is, okay, well,
• 14:28
  Speaker 1: can't the active mums have the Saturday to go and
• 14:31
  Speaker 1: hang out with their friends and relax and kind of
• 14:33
  Speaker 1: recuperate before you have the traditional Mother's Day where you
• 14:37
  Speaker 1: go out and see everyone.
• 14:38
  Speaker 3: Like why can't it be a Mother's Day weekend?
• 14:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah, why is it just confined to one day?
• 14:42
  Speaker 1: I saw a lot of creators saying that they will
• 14:44
  Speaker 1: see their mum on the Saturday and maybe they'll see
• 14:47
  Speaker 1: the mother-in-law another day that week. But one person wrote
• 14:50
  Speaker 1: under G Bungalow's video, can we add not visiting our
• 14:54
  Speaker 1: mother-in-law too? While another person said, So it sounds like
• 14:57
  Speaker 1: we all pretty much just want a chance to be dad.
• 14:59
  Speaker 2: For the day. And I laughed so much at this.
• 15:01
  Speaker 2: Someone said, take a flattering photo. We are begging. Oh, yeah.
• 15:05
  Speaker 1: So a gift is some nonchalant photos. I actually, my
• 15:09
  Speaker 1: husband the other day, we were doing bedtime routine together.
• 15:12
  Speaker 1: And every night I will read Luca a couple of
• 15:15
  Speaker 1: books before bed. And our dog Archie was sitting right
• 15:18
  Speaker 1: next to us and looked very wholesome. And I just said, look, can.
• 15:20
  Speaker 3: You take a photo? And he's like, oh, okay. Like
• 15:22
  Speaker 3: sometimes you just need to ask.
• 15:24
  Speaker 1: See, I'm actually so proud of my husband because there's
• 15:26
  Speaker 1: been two occasions now where I haven't actually had to ask.
• 15:29
  Speaker 1: I've actually turned around and he was capturing rather a
• 15:32
  Speaker 1: cute moment like yesterday.
• 15:33
  Speaker 3: That's because he listens to this.
• 15:34
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 15:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yesterday we were walking to a cafe and I
• 15:37
  Speaker 1: was holding Jack's hand and I turned around and I
• 15:39
  Speaker 1: was just shocked.
• 15:40
  Speaker 3: I'm like, oh, thank you.
• 15:41
  Speaker 1: Actually, I came and hung out with you guys at
• 15:43
  Speaker 1: a park a couple of weeks ago and we were
• 15:46
  Speaker 1: both on the swings with Jack and Luca and I
• 15:48
  Speaker 1: see him.
• 15:49
  Speaker 3: Taking this video.
• 15:51
  Speaker 1: The only thing is he remained seated on the park bench,
• 15:54
  Speaker 1: like he didn't get up to change up the angle,
• 15:56
  Speaker 1: did he?
• 15:56
  Speaker 2: You know what I mean? Like they're trying but they're
• 15:58
  Speaker 2: not quite, you know, there.
• 15:59
  Speaker 3: The thought and effort was there, which gold star to Rhys.
• 16:02
  Speaker 1: As a boy mum, I... Want to spare a thought
• 16:05
  Speaker 1: though for the mother-in-laws. I don't think that they should
• 16:07
  Speaker 1: be removed from the Mother's Day celebrations.
• 16:09
  Speaker 3: No way.
• 16:10
  Speaker 1: I think the day is obviously to celebrate all mums.
• 16:14
  Speaker 1: It doesn't matter what stage you're in. You have given
• 16:17
  Speaker 1: sacrifice so much to have that child and you continue
• 16:20
  Speaker 1: to even in their adulthood. Yeah, because people talk about
• 16:23
  Speaker 1: active parents, but I'm like, well, my mum and mother-in-law
• 16:25
  Speaker 1: are both active. Like they babysit and they look after
• 16:28
  Speaker 1: my child. Like I wouldn't want to do something to
• 16:31
  Speaker 1: thank them as well. Well, one US content creator, she
• 16:33
  Speaker 1: does not agree with you. She said that Mother's Day
• 16:37
  Speaker 1: is not about the grandparents. Actually, apparently there is a Grandparents' Day.
• 16:41
  Speaker 1: She said that's where the grandparents should be celebrated. Let's
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: have a listen to what she said.
• 16:47
  Speaker 9: Top tier of Mother's Day celebrations should be reserved for
• 16:50
  Speaker 9: active duty moms. When I say duty, I'm talking duty
• 16:53
  Speaker 9: from a butt. If you wipe butts, Mother's Day is
• 16:56
  Speaker 9: a day for you to.
• 16:58
  Speaker 4: Do what you want.
• 17:00
  Speaker 9: If you don't want to pack the kids up and
• 17:01
  Speaker 9: go to your mom's house, if you don't want to
• 17:03
  Speaker 9: go to your in-laws house, you don't have to. From there,
• 17:06
  Speaker 9: I see a tiered system and the amount that your
• 17:10
  Speaker 9: children affect your sleep determines where you fall in the tiers.
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: I've always found it interesting the people that do the
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: separate Mother's Day, like if they're married or have a partner,
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: you know, they individually go off and see their parents.
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: It makes sense, but I suppose you just do what
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: you've grown up with.
• 17:26
  Speaker 3: Like for us, it was always, you had to see both.
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: I think it also ultimately depends on whether you enjoy
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: spending time with your in-laws or not. And we all
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: have the most beautiful in-laws. So we are very lucky
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: in that respect. I mean, last year I was pregnant
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: on Mother's Day. So this year will actually be my
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: first official Mother's Day. And it was so sweet. My
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: mother-in-law got me a bunch of flowers to congratulate me
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: and say, you know, this is really your first Mother's Day.
• 17:48
  Speaker 2: You've done a lot carrying your baby. That's so sweet.
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: We actually polled the mums group and we asked who
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: should be celebrated on Mother's Day and 47% of you
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: said it should be active mums, while 53% said both.
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: I just think that summarises mums in general. They're always
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: thinking of others, aren't they? Like it's like, oh, I
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: couldn't possibly have the whole day about me.
• 18:09
  Speaker 2: Well, what surprised me was one of the questions we.
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: Put up was do you see your mother-in-law on Mother's Day?
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: And 55% of you guys said no.
• 18:16
  Speaker 5: Oh.
• 18:18
  Speaker 3: Okay, so we're in the minority.
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: I didn't know this was an option.
• 18:20
  Speaker 4: You know what, though?
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: If you think about it, though, like our mum, for instance,
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: the day clearly wasn't about her when she was active parenting.
• 18:28
  Speaker 3: So now it should be about her.
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: You kind of give your dues. You're in the trenches
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: for a long time.
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: And then once we're grandparents, we'll be the ones who
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: everyone's coming to visit. Well, our kids aren't at a
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: stage yet where they can actually make cards. Maybe Jack is,
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: but Soph and I, we're not at a stage where
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: our kids might make presents at school or whatever to
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: give to you for Mother's Day. And that means that
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: the husbands are having to get Mother's Day presents. And
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: there has been so much advice on TikTok by female
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: creators saying, listen, this is what women want.
• 18:59
  Speaker 2: I want to throw to one of the creators. She
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: has laid it all out there for them.
• 19:03
  Speaker 10: Number one, it's not about the gift. She wants to
• 19:06
  Speaker 10: feel seen. And don't check out. I'm not going to
• 19:07
  Speaker 10: make this condescending.
• 19:08
  Speaker 6: I don't roll that way.
• 19:09
  Speaker 10: I am genuinely here to help. She wants you to
• 19:11
  Speaker 10: notice mention and show appreciation for the things that she
• 19:14
  Speaker 10: does day in and day out. So the first thing
• 19:16
  Speaker 10: you're going to do is you're going to get a
• 19:17
  Speaker 10: card and you're not going to write thank you for
• 19:19
  Speaker 10: everything you do because generic appreciation, it doesn't hit us
• 19:22
  Speaker 10: in the heart. It doesn't make us feel seen. Instead,
• 19:24
  Speaker 10: write down a few specific things that she does that
• 19:28
  Speaker 10: you appreciate about her. Number two, she just wants time
• 19:31
  Speaker 10: off from being the default parent. So on Mother's Day,
• 19:33
  Speaker 10: anticipate the kid's needs, anticipate her needs without being directed.
• 19:37
  Speaker 10: Take care of the diapers, the tantrums, the meals, all
• 19:40
  Speaker 10: of the messes. so that her brain can take a
• 19:43
  Speaker 10: break and just turn off. You either take the kids
• 19:45
  Speaker 10: out of the house for the first half of the
• 19:46
  Speaker 10: day so she can sleep in and have a slow morning,
• 19:48
  Speaker 10: come back with coffee.
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: I think she's hit the nail on the head. All
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: moms want a card, as she said, outlining the fantastic
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: job that you've done throughout that year. I think if
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: it is your first Mother's Day, you do actually want.
• 20:01
  Speaker 3: A sentimental gift.
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: I mean, for me, I would love, I mean, I'm
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: hoping my husband listens. Like a piece of jewelry with like.
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: Luca written on it.
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: Well, that's a personalized gift and this is coming out
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: a couple of days before Mother's Day. So this might
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: send him into a panic.
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: No, it's a week. He's got a week or so.
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: This is coming out on Wednesday.
• 20:17
  Speaker 5: Oh, okay.
• 20:17
  Speaker 3: Well, perfect timing.
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 20:19
  Speaker 3: I hope all the husbands are listening.
• 20:20
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: I've got to say, my husband did a really good
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: job last year. He ticked the personalized present. He got
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: one of those like Wonderbly books. It was like Jack's mom.
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: And then he got me a hundred dollar gift voucher
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: for Marion, which OG listeners of Outspoken will know.
• 20:32
  Speaker 3: It's our favorite place to go.
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: So no shade to reach, but I kept seeing that
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: popping up as a suggestion on Instagram, you know, and it's.
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: Like, oh yeah, get the generic.
• 20:41
  Speaker 3: Book of the customized it's.
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: Very sweet harsh when you know you google like i
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: do it sometimes for father's day i'm like good gifts
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: for father's day sentimental but.
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: At least he typed that in yeah do you.
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: Know what's hilarious seeing all of the mother's day advertising
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: like i was walking into big w today and it
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: was like gifts mom might like and it was like
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: l'oreal foundation a revlon lipstick and then it was like
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: a drink bottle I actually saw.
• 21:04
  Speaker 3: Oh, what's wrong with that?
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: Was it a Stanley or a Frank Green?
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: No, it was from Big W. It was one of
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: those cheapo drink bottles that no mother would actually like. Like, yeah,
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: if it was a Stanley Cup or a Frank Green
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: or a Yeti. Imagine these poor men, they're like, you know,
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: the day before Mother's Day seeking something out and they
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: get falsely sold a drink bottle. It was so funny.
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: Kate Forster, who's a TikToker and author, she did a
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: bit of a review on what Audi was promoting people
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: should get for Mother's Day.
• 21:27
  Speaker 3: Let's take a listen.
• 21:29
  Speaker 11: G'day and welcome to Audi. And as we come careering
• 21:32
  Speaker 11: down the highway, Moving towards Mother's Day, here's all the
• 21:37
  Speaker 11: shit you can buy. Now, listen, nothing says love like
• 21:41
  Speaker 11: a licensing agreement. Look at Mummy and little Chloe. I
• 21:46
  Speaker 11: think that's Chloe. And that's her mum, Maddie. Maddie and
• 21:50
  Speaker 11: Chloe in their little bear jammies.
• 21:53
  Speaker 5: Lovely.
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: I mean, Audi is so bizarre in that you can
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: go there and buy like a colouring in book or
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: a saxophone.
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: I don't mean to soak.
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: I don't mean to sound ungrateful, but if my husband's
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: getting my Mother's Day present from Aldi, I'm not going
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: to be happy. Being completely honest, my first Mother's Day,
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: I think it was, was it two weeks after I
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: had Harry? I was hoping for that really beautiful, like
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: fingerprint necklace.
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: Of the baby or something really sentimental.
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: And I received a last minute Amazon order and it was,
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: and I feel terrible because I have to point out
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: that my husband did an amazing job with the in brackets,
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: push present. He got me this beautiful Tiffany's necklace. It
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: had a little blue heart.
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: Well, it'd be hard for him in such close succession.
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: I know, it was such close concessions. I'll put that
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: out there first.
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: But what he got me, and it actually sounds quite
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: sentimental now I think of it, but during my postpartum
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: pregnancy hormonal phase, I did not appreciate getting a frame
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: of that had some clay hands that I was meant to,
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: you know, mould Harry's hands from.
• 22:56
  Speaker 3: You can see where he was going. But hideous.
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: I don't want that in my house. No, it was
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: pretty ugly.
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: It's different if your kid does that at school, but
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: like the fact that you actually have the mental load
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: of making sure that you use it when your kid's
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: hands can fit in the mould.
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: Well, it arrived a day before Mother's Day.
• 23:11
  Speaker 3: I remember getting this text message.
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: And I said, is that my gift? And he was like, yeah.
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: And I said, are you serious?
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: And I, yeah, anyway, he ended up having to go
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: out and rush and purchase something else.
• 23:23
  Speaker 3: Did he give it to you the day before as
• 23:25
  Speaker 3: well or just?
• 23:26
  Speaker 4: Oh, yeah.
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: I think he said, oh, yeah, there's your Mother's Day present.
• 23:28
  Speaker 3: It wasn't wrapped or anything.
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: See, my husband does that like the day before I
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: gave birth. He gave me my push present beforehand and
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: I was like, but I haven't pushed or, I mean,
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: had him surgically removed. Like, you know. Actually, he gave
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: me the push present right after as in like when
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: we're in the hospital room.
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: That was very sweet.
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: I think that a lot of men, maybe they don't
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: realize how important Mother's Day is.
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: And one US content.
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: Creator, she said, really all moms want, a lot of
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: moms will say, I just want nothing. And the reason
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: we say we want nothing is because we just want
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: someone to take the mental load from us. Let's have
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: a listen because she put this so well.
• 24:02
  Speaker 12: Have you ever noticed how on Mother's Day, so many
• 24:04
  Speaker 12: women will simply ask for nothing?
• 24:06
  Speaker 6: They'll say, I just want a day where I do nothing.
• 24:08
  Speaker 6: That is what I want for Mother's Day.
• 24:09
  Speaker 12: A day where I don't have to plan anything, where
• 24:11
  Speaker 12: I don't have to coordinate anything, where I.
• 24:12
  Speaker 6: Don't have to make any decisions.
• 24:13
  Speaker 12: I don't have to make any little people food. I
• 24:15
  Speaker 12: just want a day where I get to do nothing.
• 24:18
  Speaker 12: And their husbands will come to them and say, babe,
• 24:19
  Speaker 12: that sounds great.
• 24:20
  Speaker 6: That's easy. I'll handle everything. All you have to do
• 24:22
  Speaker 6: is enjoy yourself. I am on it. But then their
• 24:26
  Speaker 6: husbands will come to them and ask them to make
• 24:28
  Speaker 6: a million decisions. They will say, babe, I was thinking
• 24:30
  Speaker 6: massage or brunch. Which one do you want?
• 24:32
  Speaker 12: Okay, well, I'll book a brunch. What restaurant do you
• 24:34
  Speaker 12: want to go to? Okay, what time works best? Should
• 24:36
  Speaker 12: we do 11 or should.
• 24:37
  Speaker 4: We do one?
• 24:38
  Speaker 12: What do you think with the baby's nap? You let
• 24:39
  Speaker 12: me know and I'll book one of them. And then
• 24:41
  Speaker 12: they'll say something along the lines of, oh, we should
• 24:43
  Speaker 12: invite your mom and maybe my mom too.
• 24:44
  Speaker 6: That sounds fun, right? But did you get them gifts?
• 24:46
  Speaker 6: I don't have any good ideas for my mom. Do
• 24:48
  Speaker 6: you have any ideas?
• 24:49
  Speaker 12: Could you send me a link with a few ideas
• 24:50
  Speaker 12: and I can buy her something? Actually, if you already
• 24:52
  Speaker 12: have ideas, do you mind buying it for her?
• 24:53
  Speaker 6: Thank you. That's amazing. Thank you, babe.
• 24:55
  Speaker 12: They will come to their wife and they will ask
• 24:57
  Speaker 12: them for a list and times and restaurants and what
• 24:59
  Speaker 12: day they want to go. They will ask them to
• 25:01
  Speaker 12: coordinate everything when all they asked for, all their wife
• 25:04
  Speaker 12: asked for, was to do nothing.
• 25:06
  Speaker 6: She didn't want to do anything on.
• 25:07
  Speaker 12: That day because every other day of the year she's
• 25:08
  Speaker 12: expected to coordinate everything for every single person and she's
• 25:11
  Speaker 12: exhausted from making decisions all the time and so she
• 25:13
  Speaker 12: just wanted one day where her partner knew her well
• 25:15
  Speaker 12: enough to plan everything for her, to coordinate everything, to
• 25:19
  Speaker 12: handle everything so she didn't have to, so she could
• 25:21
  Speaker 12: just enjoy herself without having to be the person managing.
• 25:24
  Speaker 6: Everything and she doesn't get that.
• 25:25
  Speaker 12: And so if your wife is frustrated because she asked
• 25:27
  Speaker 12: for nothing and this is what happened, that is why.
• 25:29
  Speaker 6: It's because she actually wanted to do nothing.
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: It's so true, but if my husband is listening to
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: this podcast, he's going to laugh because whenever he actually,
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: you know, he goes, I'm making a decision and says,
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: I want to go here.
• 25:42
  Speaker 3: I go, oh, but I don't really want to go there.
• 25:43
  Speaker 3: I want to go here.
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: Like it's when you actually get my true answer of
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: what I want to do. The thing is, they should
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: know you. You feel like that my husband should know
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: where I want to go for dinner. They should know
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: that I would prefer to go to brunch than go
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: to a massage or whatever. That's the thing also, that's
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: the magic of a present, that it's a bit of
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: a surprise and the person's actually thought really hard about
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: what you want and if you've dropped any hints over
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: the year. There's a girl that I've got on Facebook
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: and we went to primary school with her. So I
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: haven't seen her in a very long time. every Mother's
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: Day she will put up a status about how she's
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: had the worst day and that her husband has given
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: her a shit gift. This also happens on Valentine's Day.
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: It's a triggering day for a lot of people.
• 26:23
  Speaker 4: It is.
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: It is. And there are so many mums who don't receive,
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: like as in, I say they don't receive anything, but
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: they don't receive breakfast in bed. They don't receive a card.
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: It's not like you have to spend all this money.
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: It's just something thoughtful.
• 26:34
  Speaker 3: I'm getting a flashback to Father's Day.
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: I think Luca was like two months old, maybe touching
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: on three. And we were still doing overnight feeds.
• 26:43
  Speaker 3: I took one for the team.
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: I think I did the 3 a.m.
• 26:45
  Speaker 5: Feed.
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: And then I was like, oh, my God, I haven't
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: made my husband any sort of breakfast. So I literally
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: rung up the cafe and they could do like takeaway pancakes.
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: But then I'm like, how am I going to get
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: there to pick it up? I ordered it anyway. And
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: then I was like, how am I even getting notified
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: when my order's ready?
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: Rung them back up. Oh, actually, we don't do it.
• 27:06
  Speaker 3: Anyway, it was an absolute nightmare.
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: But my husband kept joking that I didn't do breakfast
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: for him.
• 27:10
  Speaker 4: Really?
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: But it was a bit of a joke because, I mean,
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: we were both in it at that stage.
• 27:15
  Speaker 3: It was really funny.
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: No, but at the time I felt really bad because
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: I kind of got him a bit of a crappy gift,
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: but I was just so in it that I just
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: couldn't even work out anything. I saw a lot of
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: women on TikTok saying, my husband told me that they
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: don't need to give me a gift because I'm not
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: their mother. See, that's definitely not my husband. My husband
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: is so thoughtful when it comes to presents.
• 27:39
  Speaker 3: But you're getting it on behalf of your child.
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: I know.
• 27:41
  Speaker 3: I don't understand that.
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: I mean, obviously once– it's not like our dad still
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: buys mum a Mother's Day present. Like once your kids
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: have their own money, of course, it's on to you.
• 27:50
  Speaker 3: Do you know what it is now as well?
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: I remember last Mother's Day waking up.
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: And I don't know who, I think it was Dale
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: did it first.
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: He did this really beautiful social media post saying what
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: a wonderful mother you were. And then like five minutes later,
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: one popped up from race and Brandon and I were like, fuck,
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: they seem scared. And then Brandon said, would you like
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: me to share one about you? Like, I know we
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: haven't had the baby yet, but you know, cause you've
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: been pregnant. I don't want to like misstep here. Dale
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: was so scared about which photo he was and wasn't
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: allowed to share.
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: He was like, could you please send.
• 28:17
  Speaker 3: Me some approved photographs?
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: I reckon it's because years ago, I think it was
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: eight years ago when you and Dale were in Europe.
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: And obviously with the time difference, he shared a photo
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: of you and we all woke up to the photo.
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: And it was basically you with your.
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: Glasses on in tracky ducks, hoeing into a like dominoes
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: or something, lying in bed. It definitely wasn't dominoes overseas.
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: Whatever it was, some takeaway pizza. And he shared it
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: with like love heart eyes or something. And I immediately
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: saw it and was like, Amy's going to fucking hate
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: this photo. Well, yeah, I'd gone to sleep and I
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: had also woken up to see that this photo had
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: been liked by.
• 28:52
  Speaker 3: A lot of people.
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: And didn't, I think one of Dad's friends was like, God,
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: describe the perfect woman.
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: Well, the perfect woman doesn't exist, dot, dot, dot. Yeah.
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: That is a tip for any Dads listening, particularly if
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: you're going to post a postpartum photo, like a fresh
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: newborn photo.
• 29:07
  Speaker 3: With your wife.
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: Make sure she approves of it.
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah, go back and check which one she's posted of
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: herself because that's usually indication of the ones that she likes.
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: In terms of women celebrating Mother's Day when they're pregnant,
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: do you think the partner.
• 29:19
  Speaker 3: Has to get them a gift?
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: My husband did. He bought me some AirPods again. I
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: think he was a bit scared.
• 29:24
  Speaker 3: Oh, my God.
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 29:25
  Speaker 3: As I said, he's fantastic at presents.
• 29:27
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 29:28
  Speaker 3: That's his love language.
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I was going to say both of you, your
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: love language is gifts. That's why I felt so bad
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: about the Father's Day because it didn't do well. I
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: think a cute little card or something or, yeah, something
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: quite sentimental.
• 29:38
  Speaker 3: Bunch of flowers. Bunch of flowers.
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: That's easy see my husband is known for giving flowers
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: and I think that's why everyone was shocked the mother's
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: day I was I think I was probably around 30
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: weeks pregnant and we actually were at Marion going to
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: buy a mother's day present I think for his mum
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: And we saw our uncle and auntie and my auntie's like.
• 29:57
  Speaker 3: Oh, my God. So have you already got Kate's gift?
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: And his face literally like you could see the blood
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: drain from it. And then he goes to me, oh,
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: was I meant to get you a gift? And it's
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: literally the worst question people can ask. Like, oh, was
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: I meant to do that? Because you know when you're like, oh,
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: don't be upset about it.
• 30:12
  Speaker 4: It's fine.
• 30:12
  Speaker 3: It's not a big deal.
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: But the fact that they ask you and you have
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: to be like, oh, no.
• 30:17
  Speaker 3: But inside your head you're like, well, yeah.
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: This is the worst thing about these TikToks.
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: Giving men advice like oh you know get your wife
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: this and that at the end they all say oh
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: share this with your husband you're hardly gonna share them
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: this cute like these videos needs to start trending on
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: the men's for you pages some people share them like
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: so you'd send a video of like i need candid
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: photos oh we're not that in terms of these videos
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: and how the algorithm works Don't you think it's almost
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: a stick to measure how good your Mother's Day was?
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: And like, let's be honest, most men aren't going to
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: be ticking all the boxes that G Bungalow has set out.
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: So don't you think almost a lot of people are
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: building themselves up to be pissed off and upset on
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: Mother's Day? One video I did share with my husband
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: was a doctor showing just how big the epidural needle was.
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: And I said, just remember, it's Mother's Day.
• 31:07
  Speaker 3: And this is what they went through.
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: You were sending this around and- You saw this and said, Soph,
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: just have TikTok because like it was a couple of
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: weeks before giving birth.
• 31:18
  Speaker 3: That's the last thing you would have wanted to see.
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: I just want to reiterate because there's been a lot
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: of chat about gifts and it's not about the money
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: you spend on it.
• 31:24
  Speaker 3: I think it's about the thought.
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: I mean, most women have said I'd be chuffed with
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: a nice card that had a thoughtful message in it.
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: And Sophie would like a piece of jewelry.
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: I saw a woman on TikTok saying that she thinks
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: a Mother's Day gift it shouldn't be held to the
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: same standard as a birthday.
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: Present, say, from your husband.
• 31:41
  Speaker 5: I agree.
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: It's not as big and as special as that. But
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: as you said, it's this moment of you wanting your
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: husband to go, I know you, this is something I
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: know that you would like.
• 31:51
  Speaker 3: Or to be appreciated, for your sacrifices to be appreciated.
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: I don't even think the gift has to be out
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: of this world. Like for me, I'd be happy with
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: a glass house candle or- A listening race? Yeah, some
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: like nice pajamas or something. Like it can be stereotypical,
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: the things that are advertised. I think it's more that
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: you just want to feel appreciated in one moment during
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: that day, whether it is going to the extent of
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: making you breakfast in bed or saying, hey, don't worry,
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: I'll do this feed or I'll take the boys.
• 32:20
  Speaker 3: For a walk.
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah, mum's being given time not to have to do
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: the mundane stuff, which they're normally going to be doing,
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: like the breakfast for the kid. Maybe you put your
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: feet up and you watch your favourite show while I
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: take said kid out and do something.
• 32:33
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: Well, it's a shame that 99.9% of our audience are females,
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: bar our husbands that listen, because I really would.
• 32:40
  Speaker 3: Have liked to help the other wives out there.
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: Well, we are going to be putting some of these
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: clips on TikTok and Instagram.
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: Actually, maybe we should put them on Facebook Reels so
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: the husband sees them.
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: Let's be honest, they're not actually on TikTok.
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: Let's get into our recommendations of the week. And Amy,
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: you have a birthday party adjacent one.
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: Yes, I do.
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: So a lovely listener called Ebony reached out to me
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: before Harry's party, and she kindly gifted me the most
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: amazing sugar cookie. So she has a business in New
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: South Wales called Crumbs and Sprinkles. So look up at
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: Crumbs and Sprinkles, two underscores, on Instagram. Go show her
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: some love. They were the most amazing sugar cookies I've
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: ever had. She asked me, she's like, oh, so what colors,
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: you know, what's the theme? And I gave her a
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: few brief details. I was in awe at how good
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: these cookies looked.
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: Everyone was like, oh my God, these are amazing.
• 33:27
  Speaker 3: Oh, I was blown away. I actually didn't hear the
• 33:29
  Speaker 3: backstory and I was like, where the hell did you
• 33:30
  Speaker 3: get these from? They're so good.
• 33:32
  Speaker 4: I know.
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: And she posted them all the way from New South Wales.
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: So a big thank you and a big shout out
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: and mum's group, go and show her some love.
• 33:38
  Speaker 3: What an absolute legend.
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: Well, we do have a very special episode coming out
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: next week for Mother's Day.
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: We interviewed our mother.
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: About what it's like being a triplet mum. This was
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: a much requested episode. Yeah, we had so many of
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: you hitting up our inboxes saying, we need your mum
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: on the show.
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: Now we've already recorded it. She did not disappoint.
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: I think she should take over podcasting because she was
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: so articulate. The advice she gave was great and it
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: gives you a really interesting insight into what it's really
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: like for mums of multiples. Well, that is where we're
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: going to leave things. But if you do enjoy the podcast,
• 34:13
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• 34:16
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• 34:19
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• 34:22
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• 34:25
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• 34:28
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• 34:31
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• 34:33
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• 34:34
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• 34:37
  Speaker 1: This episode was recorded on the traditional land of the
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: Kaurna people of the Adelaide Plains. We pay respect to
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: elders past and present.