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Diego & Natalia Boneta: The Sibling Duo Redefining Hollywood Family Business · Clyde Confidential

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  Speaker 1: Hi, everyone.
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  Speaker 2: Welcome back to another episode of Clyde Confidential. Today, I
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  Speaker 2: have my.
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  Speaker 3: First sibling duo ever, actor Diego Bonetta and his sister, Natalia,
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  Speaker 3: who also serves as his producing partner.
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  Speaker 2: Well, thank you guys so much. I'm so excited to
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  Speaker 2: chat with you.
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  Speaker 3: I think this is particularly so interesting because you guys
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  Speaker 3: are obviously siblings who work together. And a lot of
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  Speaker 3: my podcast features folks who either are, it's either assistants
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  Speaker 3: and bosses or managers and bosses who Um, agents and,
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  Speaker 3: and talent, but I've never had a pair of siblings on.
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  Speaker 4: Before and I want to know everything.
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  Speaker 2: I'm so curious.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, I have four younger brothers and I cannot even,
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  Speaker 3: even fathom starting a company with any of them or
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  Speaker 3: working with them.
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  Speaker 5: So.
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  Speaker 2: Tell me, like, how long has this been going on?
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  Speaker 3: And how did you guys decide that you wanted to
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  Speaker 3: go into business together?
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  Speaker 6: Well, I'll let Diego tell the story because he's the
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  Speaker 6: one that poached me, like, six years ago.
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  Speaker 1: July. Yeah, six years ago. But I will say that
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  Speaker 1: it's definitely very polarizing.
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  Speaker 6: Most people that we talk to are like, either I
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  Speaker 6: would love to be able to do that with a
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  Speaker 6: sibling of mine or that sounds so amazing.
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  Speaker 5: Or.
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  Speaker 1: It's my worst nightmare.
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  Speaker 6: I could never imagine how have you not murdered each
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  Speaker 6: other yet? So I think it's a lot of fun
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  Speaker 6: to talk about it. And we have a very, I think,
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  Speaker 6: unique dynamic and things that.
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  Speaker 1: Play to our strengths.
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  Speaker 6: But I'll let Diego tell the story because he's the
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  Speaker 6: one that called me six years ago pitching this crazy idea.
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  Speaker 8: Crazy was already six, six years ago. That's crazy.
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  Speaker 1: In July.
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  Speaker 6: I left New York Finance July six years ago.
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  Speaker 7: That was during COVID, right?
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  Speaker 8: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Okay. Yep. 2020.
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  Speaker 7: Long story short, Megan, after doing Rock of Ages and
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  Speaker 7: working with Tom Cruise and having this amazing mentor-mentee thing,
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  Speaker 7: because that was my first movie ever, and he was like,
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  Speaker 7: here's everything I wish I knew when I was 20
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  Speaker 7: years old, because I was 20 years old back then.
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  Speaker 7: He was very much really you know, drove home the
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  Speaker 7: idea of like, don't just be an actor waiting for the,
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  Speaker 7: for the, for the job, for the jobs to come,
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  Speaker 7: create your vehicles. And of course, when I, you know, she.
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  Speaker 8: Told me that I was like, yeah, I mean, it's
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  Speaker 8: easier being top.
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  Speaker 7: Crews, like, you know, like how do I get to
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  Speaker 7: one of you guys, you know, just, you know, find
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  Speaker 7: the stories that no one else can tell me you. And, uh,
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  Speaker 7: I was all, I, I always loved the artist, Louise
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  Speaker 7: Migetti growing up and, you know, um, and, and, mark
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  Speaker 7: burnett who was a producer i worked with in 2015
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  Speaker 7: because after this you know advice tom would gave me
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  Speaker 7: i would be on sets and instead of waiting in
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  Speaker 7: my trailer i'd be talking to the producers being like
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  Speaker 7: hey dude you know can i take you out to
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  Speaker 7: lunch or dinner and just like pick your brain i
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  Speaker 7: know it's crazy and i'm 23 but i would love
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  Speaker 7: to start producing one day you know like what are
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  Speaker 7: your you know just doing that on set and mark
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  Speaker 7: you know out of the blue in 2016 called me
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  Speaker 7: he was like hey darryl uh you know i think
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  Speaker 7: i found the project do you know who is the
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  Speaker 7: gal is and You know, she, you know, it was like, let's,
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  Speaker 7: let's just, let's just do this together.
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  Speaker 8: And, you know, Josh was a big part of that.
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  Speaker 7: And Dave Vernon, who was one of my best friends
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  Speaker 7: as well back then, I mean, I'm talking 2016 and
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  Speaker 7: that's when we started Three Mivas. And then Luis Miguel
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  Speaker 7: turned into what it became, which no one expected. You know,
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  Speaker 7: it's that and Money Heist are the two most watched
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  Speaker 7: shows in Spanish on Netflix.
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  Speaker 8: Still to me, which is insane. And that was the
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  Speaker 8: first thing that I produced.
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  Speaker 7: And then thanks to that, an amazing Mexican filmmaker by
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  Speaker 7: the name of Luchel Franco, who's this auteur filmmaker, who's incredible.
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  Speaker 7: He's done the last two Jessica Chastain movies, came up
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  Speaker 7: to me and was like, Diego, I know you've never done.
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  Speaker 8: A Mexican movie, which is true.
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  Speaker 7: Up to today, we're just kind of crazy big for
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  Speaker 7: Mexico City.
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  Speaker 8: But he was like, hey, I wrote this, you know,
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  Speaker 8: part for you. I would love to be in it.
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  Speaker 7: And if we want to produce it together, let's produce
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  Speaker 7: it together.
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  Speaker 8: I was like, oh my God. Like Michelle, I'd be honored.
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  Speaker 8: He's won Cannes multiple times.
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  Speaker 7: And that movie won the Menace Film Festival in 2020
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  Speaker 7: right in front of COVID. And we're in COVID and,
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  Speaker 7: you know, the business is shut down. But, you know,
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  Speaker 7: the market's still very hot. You know, we're basically Josh
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  Speaker 7: and I coming up with ideas to pitch to the
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  Speaker 7: Amazons and Netflixes and Apples and HBOs. And then thanks to,
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  Speaker 7: you know, our success in that, Amazon Prime Video approached
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  Speaker 7: us in 2021 with, you know, with an amazing overall deal,
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  Speaker 7: which wasn't, you know, which now we've been working against
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  Speaker 7: for five years.
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  Speaker 8: Now it's transitioned into a first look.
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  Speaker 7: And when that happened, Josh and I were like super happy,
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  Speaker 7: but we were immediately terrified at the same time because
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  Speaker 7: we're like, we're like, wait, we are like two idiots
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  Speaker 7: who've been like just selling stuff around town because no
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  Speaker 7: one's doing nothing. And we had the idea to just
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  Speaker 7: have all of our writers friends and, and, but, but
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  Speaker 7: now it's serious. Like now we have to deliver four projects,
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  Speaker 7: three years.
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  Speaker 8: It's an unreal deal.
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  Speaker 7: Um, but every single producer that I spoke to, you know,
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  Speaker 7: Fred Berger and like a lot of friends of mine
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  Speaker 7: were like, dude, you know, three, three or four, four
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  Speaker 7: projects in three years.
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  Speaker 8: I mean, that's almost impossible.
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  Speaker 7: And that's when Josh and I were like, dude, we
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  Speaker 7: need someone to really come in and make sure we
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  Speaker 7: not only deliver, but over-deliver. And Josh immediately was like, dude,
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  Speaker 7: I know Natalya, your sister.
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  Speaker 8: It has to be Natalya.
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  Speaker 7: I go, dude, what do you mean? She's in finance.
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  Speaker 7: She's like, that's exactly right.
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  Speaker 8: She's in finance, Goldman Sachs, J.P. Morgan, any of it.
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  Speaker 7: She knows how insane, like, and if we get to
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  Speaker 7: apply that to how we run our business efficiency-wise, and it's,
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  Speaker 7: you know, that's when Natalia came in. And long story short,
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  Speaker 7: you know, we ended up doing five projects within the
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  Speaker 7: three years, not four, one of them being a book,
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  Speaker 7: a novel that I wrote with my sister's help, you know,
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  Speaker 7: multiple movies in.
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  Speaker 8: Both and projects.
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  Speaker 7: In Spanish and, um, you know, English, we have, uh, uh, our,
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  Speaker 7: you know, baby of art, like show called El Gato,
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  Speaker 7: which is, um, B, you know, which, which will, which
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  Speaker 7: will be coming out, uh, early next year. And, you know, um,
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  Speaker 7: it was, it was, it was, it was truly a
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  Speaker 7: before and after, uh, and, and in every way she
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  Speaker 7: performed professionally and person, you know, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's,
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  Speaker 7: it's made our.
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  Speaker 8: Relationship as siblings stronger.
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  Speaker 7: It's, it's, it's, which to us, that's what's number one,
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  Speaker 7: family first.
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  Speaker 8: And now I'm going to shut up and.
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  Speaker 7: Like, you know, cause literally that Natalia came in and
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  Speaker 7: we knew it was, you know, there were going to
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  Speaker 7: be pros and cons, you know, or being my sister
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  Speaker 7: and people judging that.
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  Speaker 8: But, you know, Josh and I.
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  Speaker 7: Had the, I mean, I have full faith in Natalia
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  Speaker 7: and I always do that. You know, she lets her
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  Speaker 7: game speak. Um, and there's nothing stronger than that. And
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  Speaker 7: as a brother, there's nothing that makes me more about known.
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  Speaker 1: That's beautiful.
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  Speaker 3: First of all, like not a lot of brothers would
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  Speaker 3: talk about their sister that way.
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  Speaker 4: You guys clearly have such a lovely relationship.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, Josh's idea was to get Natalia in there.
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  Speaker 3: And Natalia, you had no industry experience prior. You're coming
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  Speaker 3: from finance. So how was that when they approached you?
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  Speaker 3: What were you thinking? And how was that transition into
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  Speaker 3: the industry?
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, I'd say that it's unfair to say
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  Speaker 6: that I had zero industry experience because we're a very
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  Speaker 6: close family, as you can tell. Diego is five years
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  Speaker 6: older than me. And so he started in the business
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  Speaker 6: when he was 12. I was, you know, six, seven
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  Speaker 6: when he started. And I think through osmosis, because we've
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  Speaker 6: always been so close, I kind of picked up on
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  Speaker 6: a lot of things that later on have served me
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  Speaker 6: and like the learning experience. Like I knew what managers did.
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  Speaker 6: I knew what agents did. Like Josh has, was at
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  Speaker 6: my 13th birthday party.
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  Speaker 1: You know what I mean?
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  Speaker 6: Like I was around all these humans and all of
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  Speaker 6: these different jobs and how the industry worked. And when
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  Speaker 6: we moved, from Mexico to the States, and Diego had
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  Speaker 6: to transition his career, and he did.
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  Speaker 1: Rock of Ages, and he was singing and acting.
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  Speaker 6: I was a part of all of that, albeit informally,
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  Speaker 6: and so I think that really helped. And another side
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  Speaker 6: of things that I think few people talk about is, like, finance. Yeah, like,
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  Speaker 6: it helps to have some training. It helps to have
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  Speaker 6: gone to a few econ classes. It helps to have
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  Speaker 6: taken a few finance classes or whatnot. But a lot
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  Speaker 6: of the stuff you learn on the desk, you learn
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  Speaker 6: on the job, and I think... those like soft skills
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  Speaker 6: are what ends up being the most valuable and so
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  Speaker 6: hard to kind of teach. And I think those carry
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  Speaker 6: over to whatever industry you move into. So like, it's
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  Speaker 6: like half joking, but also not. Like in finance, I
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  Speaker 6: had to know how to operate on little sleep and
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  Speaker 6: a lot of stress.
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  Speaker 1: And when we're on set, in a lot of ways,
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  Speaker 1: it's the same thing.
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  Speaker 6: It's like just being able to operate with little sleep,
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  Speaker 6: a lot of stress, building a good team around you,
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  Speaker 6: knowing when you don't have the answer and being able
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  Speaker 6: to raise.
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  Speaker 1: Your hand and ask for help.
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  Speaker 6: I think all of those things like stand true regardless
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  Speaker 6: of what.
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  Speaker 1: Industry you're in.
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  Speaker 6: But I'd say the biggest change and the biggest challenge
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  Speaker 6: when we started working together was kind of finding a
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  Speaker 6: way to organize and structure our company and our days.
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  Speaker 6: Cause I came from such corporate background that it was like,
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  Speaker 6: all right, markets close at five. Like after 9 PM,
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  Speaker 6: there's no need for my boss to be calling me
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  Speaker 6: for absolutely anything on the weekends, markets are closed. So like,
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  Speaker 6: I shouldn't expect to have to work on anything really. Um,
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  Speaker 6: there were like easier workplace work-life boundaries and, and, um, um,
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  Speaker 6: like sick days were true sick days. You know, you
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  Speaker 6: called in sick and you didn't have to really worry
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  Speaker 6: about it.
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  Speaker 1: I think being an honor. But by the.
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  Speaker 7: Way, that's that, but, but that always happens and it's
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  Speaker 7: part of the big, and it's always Murphy's law, dude.
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  Speaker 7: So you just have to accept it. It's just how
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  Speaker 7: the business seeks.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 6: And I think being able to like be flexible, like
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  Speaker 6: I was, Diego like pulled me in that direction of like,
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  Speaker 6: you have to be flexible. You need to like, you know,
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  Speaker 6: be able to roll with the punches. That's how this
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  Speaker 6: business is. But then I also pulled them in the
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  Speaker 6: other direction and was like, it's 9 p.m.
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  Speaker 1: On a Sunday. You don't have to send this email.
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  Speaker 6: And I think that struggle at first that lasted, I'd
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  Speaker 6: say we really didn't hit our stride until after the
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  Speaker 6: first or second set that we were on together, the
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  Speaker 6: first or second project that we shot. Now it's like
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  Speaker 6: a well-oiled machine. We know when there's a necessary call
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  Speaker 6: at like, forget 9 p.m., like 1 a.m. on a
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  Speaker 6: Sunday when we're in production and that's a very different
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  Speaker 6: mode that we turn on. And then when we're in development, right?
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  Speaker 6: Like right now I'm in a writer's room. So I
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  Speaker 6: am in a completely different mindset.
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  Speaker 1: And, you know, maybe.
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  Speaker 6: We can have a little bit more space for like
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  Speaker 6: me to have a sick day if I have COVID
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  Speaker 6: or for Diego to be able to take a Sunday off,
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  Speaker 6: you know, if he's been shooting every day up till Saturday.
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  Speaker 6: So I think that was one of the main challenges,
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  Speaker 6: more so than like the industry specific stuff, because a
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  Speaker 6: lot of that came just with osmosis.
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  Speaker 3: I think also what you said about it being Sunday
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  Speaker 3: and you saying, okay, hey, you actually can take a beat.
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  Speaker 2: You don't need to send this email.
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  Speaker 4: As much as you doing that, you also probably being like, hey,
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  Speaker 4: this is really urgent. You do have to do this today.
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  Speaker 4: You do have to respond to this person.
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  Speaker 3: I think you have an advantage there because a lot
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  Speaker 3: of assistants with their famous bosses might not be as
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  Speaker 3: assertive or might not feel as comfortable being like, I'm
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  Speaker 3: going to interrupt you right now and you need to
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  Speaker 3: do this or we need this.
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  Speaker 2: To get approved.
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  Speaker 3: Because you guys are siblings, that comes much easier. And
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  Speaker 3: you're like, hey, Diego, I need you to do this
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  Speaker 3: right now. Or like, actually, this can wait.
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  Speaker 7: And that's the same dynamics that I'd have with my
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  Speaker 7: assistant as well. It's like, you know, it's like because
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  Speaker 7: Natalia is, you know, my producing partner in Three Amigos.
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  Speaker 8: It's Josh Natalia.
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  Speaker 7: And I and we always have that trust to where
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  Speaker 7: she's like, and it's mainly her telling me because I'm
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  Speaker 7: such a workaholic.
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  Speaker 8: And that line has always been blurred to me.
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  Speaker 7: Right. I mean, out of my best friends, I think
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  Speaker 7: I've only been able to go to two weddings. I'm
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  Speaker 7: all of my best friends. I'm just used to missing birthdays.
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  Speaker 7: I'm used to working on Sundays. I'm used to all those.
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  Speaker 7: I'm used to all those situations. And having Natalia being like, hey, dude,
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  Speaker 7: it's Sunday at 9 p.m. You know, that that can wait.
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  Speaker 8: It's been amazing. And me also, to her.
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  Speaker 7: Firing that up of like, come on, let's go, let's go,
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  Speaker 7: let's go, let's go, let's.
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  Speaker 8: Go do this.
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  Speaker 7: And really understanding how, because we all really complement each
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  Speaker 7: other so well, Josh included, where we know our strengths,
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  Speaker 7: we know our weaknesses, and we complement each other when
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  Speaker 7: we divide and conquer. The fact that Natalia right now
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  Speaker 7: is like, dude, be in this writer's room, huge Amazon show,
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  Speaker 7: you know, we'll take over the rest. I do this,
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  Speaker 7: we do that. I'm constantly traveling all over. Even though
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  Speaker 7: I live in LA, I'm really living on a, like
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  Speaker 7: in a plane in between New York, LA, Mexico city
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  Speaker 7: and wherever else. And, you know, having that trust too. And,
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  Speaker 7: you know, is, is just, is just huge. And, you know,
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  Speaker 7: like that's the same dynamic that we try to have
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  Speaker 7: with everyone who we work with.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah. I'd also say that like, there's a lot of,
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  Speaker 6: there's a lot of like, um, things that maybe in,
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  Speaker 6: in a traditional, like working relationship, you can't really like
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  Speaker 6: raise your hand and be like, Hey, like I, I
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  Speaker 6: don't know, um, got into a fight with my boyfriend
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  Speaker 6: last night and I feel like shit, you know what
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  Speaker 6: I mean? Or like, you wouldn't tell your boss that,
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  Speaker 6: you know, you wouldn't tell your partner that.
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  Speaker 1: Um, and I think being siblings, you.
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  Speaker 6: Know, Diego tells me like, yo, I really need to
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  Speaker 6: go and decompress and play tennis for an hour because
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  Speaker 6: I'm feeling cooped up and I've got this mental fog
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  Speaker 6: or I'm hitting a wall in my creativity, whatever it is.
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  Speaker 6: Having each other's backs like that, it goes both ways.
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  Speaker 6: We can sit each other down and tell each other, dude,
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  Speaker 6: you have to do this. I know it sucks. And
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  Speaker 6: I know that you're sick or whatever, or it's Sunday
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  Speaker 6: or whatever, but you're going to have to do this.
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  Speaker 6: The same way that you know, there's been days that
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  Speaker 6: Diego will be like.
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  Speaker 1: It's lunch hour and we're on set. And I know
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  Speaker 1: that last night you didn't sleep.
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  Speaker 6: Natalia, go sleep in my trailer during lunch and I'll
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  Speaker 6: cover for you.
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  Speaker 1: You know what I mean? That we've applied that one
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  Speaker 1: a bunch of times on set. So it goes both ways.
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  Speaker 6: Like we're able to be harder on each other because
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  Speaker 6: we're siblings and we also can take care of each
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  Speaker 6: other because we're siblings. Yeah.
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  Speaker 7: And also, There's two very different working environments and two
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  Speaker 7: completely different situations. Being on set and producing something on
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  Speaker 7: the ground and being in the thick of it, but
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  Speaker 7: being able to be together working on the post of
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  Speaker 7: what we just did while doing the pre here while,
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  Speaker 7: or sorry, while doing the actual production now with the
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  Speaker 7: pre of what's going to come versus being able to
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  Speaker 7: be back to, okay, back to development. To me. right
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  Speaker 7: where you know okay we've shot our five projects okay
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  Speaker 7: so what's what's what's new on our slate what are
• 16:43
  Speaker 7: what are what are what are the new things cooking
• 16:46
  Speaker 7: while being able to develop you know so it's it's
• 16:49
  Speaker 7: it's it's it's it's two different dynamics like when you're
• 16:53
  Speaker 7: on set it's like you know it's it's your own
• 16:57
  Speaker 7: call 24 7 and it is like working at a
• 16:59
  Speaker 7: like er and it's like Because it's not just the acting,
• 17:02
  Speaker 7: but it's the location went down and it's a Saturday
• 17:05
  Speaker 7: and a Sunday and you've been at it for, you know,
• 17:07
  Speaker 7: six months. And it's that every it's it's there's something
• 17:10
  Speaker 7: very militant to it, you know, call set the call
• 17:14
  Speaker 7: time to lunch the base to that. Whereas when you're
• 17:18
  Speaker 7: in development mode in Natalia's in a writer's room, it's
• 17:22
  Speaker 7: a completely different dynamic. And then on top of that,
• 17:25
  Speaker 7: you add the fact that it's with different teams all
• 17:28
  Speaker 7: the time.
• 17:28
  Speaker 8: I mean, you try to work with some of the
• 17:30
  Speaker 8: same people, right?
• 17:31
  Speaker 7: And we have projects with Pablo Cruz, who's a producer
• 17:35
  Speaker 7: who we love, and Fred Berger, who's a producer.
• 17:36
  Speaker 8: That we have multiple projects with people. But it's very,
• 17:40
  Speaker 8: very frequent.
• 17:41
  Speaker 7: I mean, do you find yourself... That's also what's exciting too.
• 17:45
  Speaker 7: It's going into the unknown with new teams of people with,
• 17:48
  Speaker 7: you know, and every production, everything, there's... You know, you... There's... It's...
• 17:56
  Speaker 7: It's been an unbelievable learning experience. You know?
• 18:01
  Speaker 4: That's awesome.
• 18:02
  Speaker 3: And how do you guys divide and conquer within the
• 18:06
  Speaker 3: company between the both of you and Josh and your
• 18:10
  Speaker 3: current assistant?
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: Well, I'd say that Josh is kind of like the...
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: He moves.
• 18:16
  Speaker 6: The chess pieces behind the scenes in a way that
• 18:19
  Speaker 6: only he can.
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: He's like.
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: The packager in a lot of ways.
• 18:26
  Speaker 6: So, like, Diego and him, the company started by them
• 18:30
  Speaker 6: creating these crazy ideas, right?
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: Watching their favorite movies and saying, like, We should make.
• 18:36
  Speaker 6: The next Basic Instinct meets, you know, like it was
• 18:42
  Speaker 6: always a comp of their two favorite movies. And there
• 18:45
  Speaker 6: were always like two male protagonist idiots, one modeled after
• 18:48
  Speaker 6: Josh and the other one modeled after you.
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: That was a slate that I walked into.
• 18:51
  Speaker 6: I was like, what the hell, man? This has been
• 18:55
  Speaker 6: led by YouTube for too long. So he still acts
• 18:58
  Speaker 6: as this.
• 18:59
  Speaker 8: Like– All amazing ideas, by the way.
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: All incredible ideas.
• 19:02
  Speaker 6: Sure.
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: Amazing ideas.
• 19:03
  Speaker 6: But yeah, like he kind of packages.
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: He connects. He makes it happen. I am in a
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: lot of ways– The strategy too.
• 19:15
  Speaker 8: Yeah, Josh looks at the strategy.
• 19:17
  Speaker 7: Napoleon looking at the strategy.
• 19:20
  Speaker 3: And for anyone, Josh is Diego's manager who has been
• 19:23
  Speaker 3: with you.
• 19:24
  Speaker 8: For how many years?
• 19:24
  Speaker 7: Yes, Josh Klink.
• 19:25
  Speaker 8: I mean, not just Manda.
• 19:26
  Speaker 7: I mean, he's my best friend. I mean, we started
• 19:30
  Speaker 7: working together. His first job in Hollywood was right when
• 19:34
  Speaker 7: Rock of Ages came out, which was June of 2012.
• 19:36
  Speaker 7: So 14 years now, we first became best friends and
• 19:42
  Speaker 7: then he.
• 19:42
  Speaker 8: Became my agent.
• 19:43
  Speaker 7: Then he wanted to go into management because he wanted
• 19:47
  Speaker 7: to produce. And then I was like, okay, well, let's
• 19:50
  Speaker 7: produce together. We started three amigos and the rest is history. But,
• 19:53
  Speaker 7: you know, he is my brother.
• 19:56
  Speaker 8: He's part of the family.
• 19:57
  Speaker 7: Like Natalia said, you know, she's, you know, been to every,
• 20:00
  Speaker 7: you know, like she was there at like Natalia's 13th birthday.
• 20:04
  Speaker 8: I mean, it was my whole family.
• 20:05
  Speaker 4: Oh, crazy.
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: And now you just celebrated your 30th birthday.
• 20:07
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 20:09
  Speaker 7: It's like, you know, and so it's it's it's it
• 20:13
  Speaker 7: really feels like a family working together.
• 20:16
  Speaker 8: You know, Josh, Josh is Josh is my brother.
• 20:20
  Speaker 7: And he's great at what Natalia said, the packaging, knowing exactly,
• 20:24
  Speaker 7: you know, the market tendencies, what's working, connecting it to,
• 20:29
  Speaker 7: you know, how how do we reverse engineer?
• 20:33
  Speaker 8: I'm willing to say it once.
• 20:35
  Speaker 6: This favorite phrase, I count it every time that we're
• 20:38
  Speaker 6: on any meeting or Zoom.
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: I'm like, you can only say it maximum of three times.
• 20:42
  Speaker 7: It's like, so we, you know, come up with a
• 20:45
  Speaker 7: situation or a package and we're like, okay, what is
• 20:48
  Speaker 7: the best way that we can make this?
• 20:49
  Speaker 8: How do we reverse engineer this? Who do we partner with?
• 20:54
  Speaker 7: And now, you know, and still coming up with like
• 20:56
  Speaker 7: great ideas. And it's like everyone has their ideas that
• 20:59
  Speaker 7: they're passionate about and that they lead. And, you know,
• 21:02
  Speaker 7: you just see what goes, you know?
• 21:05
  Speaker 6: And then the slate, I'm kind of like the project manager.
• 21:08
  Speaker 6: I like push everything along. I take the meetings with
• 21:11
  Speaker 6: the writers. And then once the script is like in
• 21:15
  Speaker 6: a good enough spot, like even now that I'm in
• 21:17
  Speaker 6: the writer's room for a series, Diego doesn't see the
• 21:21
  Speaker 6: first draft of that script because he is such a
• 21:23
  Speaker 6: perfectionist and he is so great at giving notes.
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: That that draft will be shredded. Like it would just
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: be so disheartening to me.
• 21:32
  Speaker 6: As like the development head that's pushing this along. So
• 21:36
  Speaker 6: I usually tend to get it to like a place
• 21:38
  Speaker 6: where I feel like it's 80% there. ish before I
• 21:43
  Speaker 6: hand it to Diego. And then Diego goes to town.
• 21:46
  Speaker 6: He is the best script doctor I've ever met. He
• 21:49
  Speaker 6: looks not only at his, um, personas, at his characters,
• 21:53
  Speaker 6: but at every character that we write with this like
• 21:56
  Speaker 6: trained actor's eye, you know, and he makes sure that
• 22:00
  Speaker 6: any incredible actor that we would want to play this
• 22:04
  Speaker 6: role would feel attracted to that character, right? So that
• 22:07
  Speaker 6: it's multidimensional, that they've got true conflict and gray areas.
• 22:13
  Speaker 6: that their motivations and their intentions are well-grounded. It's like
• 22:18
  Speaker 6: all of that work is 100%.
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: Diego before we even make it to the screen.
• 22:24
  Speaker 6: Mind you, he also is like the brain baby of
• 22:27
  Speaker 6: a lot of these ideas. We each have like our
• 22:29
  Speaker 6: brain babies. And then I kind of help them get
• 22:33
  Speaker 6: to a certain point where then Diego comes in and
• 22:35
  Speaker 6: makes them perfect. And then Josh makes sure that they
• 22:39
  Speaker 6: get sold and packaged in the best way so that
• 22:42
  Speaker 6: we can make it in the best format. And then
• 22:44
  Speaker 6: Vanessa came onto the team recently. She's like a recent
• 22:49
  Speaker 6: ad two years ago. Vanessa's Diego's assistant. And as you
• 22:53
  Speaker 6: can imagine, coming into a family business where Josh is
• 22:57
  Speaker 6: also like a brother, we have a lot of like,
• 23:02
  Speaker 6: lingo and shorthand that for someone new, it might be
• 23:07
  Speaker 6: like daunting. And also even just me posting the job,
• 23:11
  Speaker 6: I'm like, I need someone that speaks English and Spanish perfectly,
• 23:15
  Speaker 6: can read and write perfectly in both, can communicate with
• 23:19
  Speaker 6: large teams, right? Because Diego's got his Mexico team, his
• 23:22
  Speaker 6: US team, his Mexico PR, his US PR, Mexican lawyer,
• 23:25
  Speaker 6: US lawyer, like.
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: It's a massive machine.
• 23:29
  Speaker 6: And can not only be a personal assistant to Diego
• 23:32
  Speaker 6: when he's acting and on set, but also a personal
• 23:35
  Speaker 6: assistant to a producer when he's developing, taking meetings.
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: You know what I mean?
• 23:40
  Speaker 6: So we found Vanessa from the music space, really. She
• 23:45
  Speaker 6: came from the music space. She was a personal manager
• 23:49
  Speaker 6: in the music industry, which is a role that doesn't
• 23:53
  Speaker 6: really exist in film and television.
• 23:55
  Speaker 7: They.
• 23:56
  Speaker 6: Personal managers in the music industry are beyond personal assistants.
• 23:59
  Speaker 6: They're between a personal assistant and a manager, kind of.
• 24:03
  Speaker 4: Like a day-to-day.
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they're like a day-to-day manager.
• 24:08
  Speaker 7: A day-to-day, boots-on-the-ground, on-tour, there-with-you manager.
• 24:14
  Speaker 8: Exactly.
• 24:14
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 24:15
  Speaker 8: That's a good way to describe it.
• 24:17
  Speaker 3: When you guys first met Vanessa, because assistant placements are
• 24:21
  Speaker 3: obviously so difficult to nail down, and especially when you've
• 24:25
  Speaker 3: all been working together for years and years and years,
• 24:27
  Speaker 3: what made her perfect for this job?
• 24:29
  Speaker 4: And what was the moment where you were like, that's
• 24:31
  Speaker 4: the one?
• 24:31
  Speaker 6: I mean, I interviewed several, and there were like three
• 24:37
  Speaker 6: final candidates that I introduced to Diego.
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: And I think.
• 24:41
  Speaker 6: a big part of what we were looking for was experience.
• 24:45
  Speaker 6: Like I, we wanted someone that understood and not even
• 24:49
  Speaker 6: like the, the, like the film and television industry, but
• 24:53
  Speaker 6: the entertainment industry at large. Like she worked mostly in
• 24:56
  Speaker 6: music and there are some similarities, many differences, but she
• 25:00
  Speaker 6: was very willing to learn and no task was too small,
• 25:06
  Speaker 6: which is kind of our biggest motto as.
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: A company, it's like no one's ever on a high horse.
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: Like if Diego walks to.
• 25:16
  Speaker 6: Set and he's running and I'm running a little late,
• 25:19
  Speaker 6: you know, because a location fell through or whatever, he's getting.
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: Coffee for us. You know what I mean?
• 25:26
  Speaker 6: No task is ever too small. No one has an ego.
• 25:29
  Speaker 6: No one can be a diva. And maybe one day,
• 25:33
  Speaker 6: you know, you're going to have to run and figure
• 25:38
  Speaker 6: out Akilah, Diego's dog and daughter and.
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: Love of his life, you know, her vaccines.
• 25:46
  Speaker 6: And then the next day, I'm going to have to
• 25:48
  Speaker 6: ask you for your help to approve, like, different shots
• 25:52
  Speaker 6: for a commercial that we're producing, right? To run through
• 25:56
  Speaker 6: the different stills to approve still images for Diego Social Media.
• 25:59
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: Um, so it was kind of.
• 26:01
  Speaker 7: Like production plan of a campaign that you came up
• 26:04
  Speaker 7: with and her to execute it on like, like.
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: That was the latest.
• 26:10
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 26:10
  Speaker 6: That was the latest, um, challenge that we, that we,
• 26:16
  Speaker 6: that we had, or no, it was like, it was
• 26:19
  Speaker 6: the latest growth opportunity as a company. Like I've been
• 26:21
  Speaker 6: in every production that we've ever done as three amigos.
• 26:25
  Speaker 6: And recently I took a vacation and it was like,
• 26:28
  Speaker 6: oh my God, like, what are we going to do?
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: How is this going to work?
• 26:31
  Speaker 6: You know, and all of these campaigns, Murphy's Law were
• 26:34
  Speaker 6: falling into place, the dates that I was not going
• 26:37
  Speaker 6: to be here. And it was really, really wonderful to
• 26:41
  Speaker 6: be able to count on Vanessa, who had been on
• 26:43
  Speaker 6: several productions with us, to execute it.
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: So I teed it all up.
• 26:49
  Speaker 6: Diego obviously had to execute on the day and And
• 26:55
  Speaker 6: it was really nice to be able to delegate that.
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: And it was the first time that we were delegating.
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: So all of us were like, okay, let's hope this
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: goes well.
• 27:02
  Speaker 6: Vanessa included, you know, she's like, I'm going to do
• 27:05
  Speaker 6: my best.
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: And it went great. And I think it's part of growing.
• 27:09
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: That's so nice.
• 27:10
  Speaker 3: And I think that like what a lot of the
• 27:13
  Speaker 3: younger generation don't understand is that if you want to
• 27:15
  Speaker 3: be in this industry and you want to grow up
• 27:17
  Speaker 3: to be a Diego or a Natalia and run a
• 27:21
  Speaker 3: production company and, You have to be okay with doing
• 27:24
  Speaker 3: the stuff with the dogs because doing the stuff with
• 27:27
  Speaker 3: the dogs gets you the trust that you.
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: Need to do the bigger things.
• 27:29
  Speaker 3: And when you're taking the dog to the vet appointments,
• 27:33
  Speaker 3: you are allowing Diego.
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: The space to go focus on his creative endeavors.
• 27:37
  Speaker 3: And when you're steady for him in those personal areas,
• 27:41
  Speaker 3: he can be steady in his creative areas. So you
• 27:45
  Speaker 3: can't be above any of that. And I think that
• 27:47
  Speaker 3: everyone needs to hear this. Like you got to put
• 27:50
  Speaker 3: in time doing the personal stuff, no matter what.
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: For sure. And I think that's where you get the,
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: what you, the trust. Like Diego's, Diego's dog is his,
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: it's life. That's his daughter. You know what I mean?
• 28:03
  Speaker 6: Like, I think he will be more grateful and he
• 28:07
  Speaker 6: likes his coffee, you know, but like, he will be
• 28:10
  Speaker 6: so much more grateful and will trust you so much
• 28:12
  Speaker 6: more if you can take care of Akilah than if
• 28:15
  Speaker 6: you forget, if he likes almond or oat milk and it's, you.
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: Know what I mean?
• 28:19
  Speaker 6: Like, I think those personal tasks, the more personal, the
• 28:23
  Speaker 6: more they speak to the trust that they're willing to,
• 28:26
  Speaker 6: to give, you know what I mean?
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: So, and also in such a small company, no one
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: is above any.
• 28:32
  Speaker 6: Task, you know, like Diego's had to do coffee runs
• 28:35
  Speaker 6: for me and Vanessa before.
• 28:36
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 28:37
  Speaker 7: Like, like that also applies to us and to everyone
• 28:41
  Speaker 7: on the team, you know, it's like, it's, it's, and
• 28:45
  Speaker 7: you know, something that's very important, you know, especially with
• 28:49
  Speaker 7: someone like Vanessa's, they're an extension of me as well.
• 28:53
  Speaker 7: You know, I, I want, you know, their, you know,
• 28:59
  Speaker 7: professionalism and how they treat people to.
• 29:04
  Speaker 8: Be, you know, a reflection of how I am too.
• 29:08
  Speaker 7: You know, I, it's, it's like so important to me to,
• 29:11
  Speaker 7: you know, like to be down to earth, you know,
• 29:14
  Speaker 7: and to be nice to people and to, You know,
• 29:17
  Speaker 7: it's also very important for people on my team to
• 29:19
  Speaker 7: also have that because that's a big part of who
• 29:22
  Speaker 7: I am as a person, you know?
• 29:25
  Speaker 6: Yep.
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: And I think in a family company, it's even more clear. Like,
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: it's like.
• 29:30
  Speaker 4: Totally.
• 29:31
  Speaker 6: We were raised by the same people, so we have
• 29:33
  Speaker 6: the same exact values, and we're looking for someone that.
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: Extends that.
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: I think it also.
• 29:40
  Speaker 3: like what you said about her being an extension of you,
• 29:43
  Speaker 3: like you're all an extension of one another and it's
• 29:46
  Speaker 3: on the clock and off the clock. So like whatever
• 29:50
  Speaker 3: Josh is doing on the weekends, whatever Vanessa is doing
• 29:52
  Speaker 3: on the weekends, like interfacing, if you live in LA,
• 29:56
  Speaker 3: you see people from work, in and outside of work, right?
• 29:58
  Speaker 3: Like on a Saturday night, walking into a restaurant or
• 30:01
  Speaker 3: how you talk to the server is also really important.
• 30:04
  Speaker 3: Like you don't want someone to be sitting at a
• 30:06
  Speaker 3: table next to your manager or your assistant and be like, whoa,
• 30:10
  Speaker 3: I know that person works for Diego and I heard
• 30:12
  Speaker 3: them be super rude. So it's like you have to
• 30:15
  Speaker 3: carry yourself in a professional manner everywhere you go if
• 30:19
  Speaker 3: you're on a team like this.
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: There's also different ways of working.
• 30:22
  Speaker 6: Like I think in the States, people are very like
• 30:25
  Speaker 6: matter of fact, more like to the point, more dry.
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: Like I have a call.
• 30:31
  Speaker 6: With, you know, I don't know, Diego's US agents. And
• 30:36
  Speaker 6: it's like, hey, you know, this is what we need.
• 30:39
  Speaker 6: This is okay.
• 30:39
  Speaker 7: Great.
• 30:40
  Speaker 6: Bye.
• 30:40
  Speaker 7: Great.
• 30:41
  Speaker 6: Here in Mexico, you hop on the phone with someone
• 30:43
  Speaker 6: and you don't ask them how they are. how their
• 30:46
  Speaker 6: kids are doing, how their weekend was, and it's considered rude.
• 30:49
  Speaker 6: And so also finding someone that can kind of navigate
• 30:53
  Speaker 6: these two cultures and the way that you work within
• 30:57
  Speaker 6: them was very important, you know, because I wouldn't want
• 30:59
  Speaker 6: Vanessa to think, you know, that someone's being rude because
• 31:03
  Speaker 6: they didn't.
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: Do the small talk, you know?
• 31:06
  Speaker 6: That's the way that a lot of the business is
• 31:09
  Speaker 6: done in the States.
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: And then in Mexico, it's a whole other beast. So
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: I think.
• 31:15
  Speaker 6: those nuances are really hard to find in someone. And,
• 31:19
  Speaker 6: and at first it was like, I don't, I don't know.
• 31:21
  Speaker 6: I don't know where I'm going to be able to
• 31:23
  Speaker 6: find someone that can do all of this and be
• 31:25
  Speaker 6: so willing to kind of, because Diego has a lot
• 31:28
  Speaker 6: going on. Like it's, it's the production company and it's
• 31:30
  Speaker 6: his acting gigs, but it's also his commercial work.
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: It's also his.
• 31:34
  Speaker 6: Social media that she helps me run like brand deals. Yeah.
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: Campaigns. Now we're producing campaigns. So it's, there's like a
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: really wide scope.
• 31:46
  Speaker 6: And it's finding someone that's not daunted by it, but
• 31:49
  Speaker 6: instead like motivated and, and enthused by the possibility to
• 31:53
  Speaker 6: be able to grow. Yeah.
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: And it's so specific.
• 31:56
  Speaker 7: And that's like literally like to me, like, I'm like,
• 31:59
  Speaker 7: I want you to grow, you know, like if, if you,
• 32:02
  Speaker 7: if you're, if you're into this, if you like this,
• 32:05
  Speaker 7: you know, I want to empower you to like be
• 32:08
  Speaker 7: able to, you know, now, you know, be the on,
• 32:11
  Speaker 7: you know, boots person when, when we're doing these campaigns,
• 32:15
  Speaker 7: you know, and, um, and yeah, it's, um, I think
• 32:20
  Speaker 7: that that's very important.
• 32:22
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 32:23
  Speaker 4: And to empower someone to grow, you have to trust
• 32:25
  Speaker 4: them and to trust them, you have to trust them
• 32:27
  Speaker 4: with your dogs first.
• 32:29
  Speaker 6: Yeah. Literally.
• 32:30
  Speaker 7: My dog is my, my, yeah, I'm even shocked.
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: I feel you.
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: I feel you. I, I, it's.
• 32:38
  Speaker 7: Like i'm leaving tomorrow and i'm not gonna see her
• 32:40
  Speaker 7: for a bit and i'm.
• 32:41
  Speaker 8: Like so sad.
• 32:45
  Speaker 7: It's a little bit pathetic but man.
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah does she come on set with you.
• 32:49
  Speaker 7: Yes she like grew up on sets.
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: So she's very quiet she is so.
• 32:54
  Speaker 7: Well she is so well behaved and like she knows
• 32:57
  Speaker 7: when we're going to work she comes to sets she
• 33:00
  Speaker 7: comes to studios with me because when I when I
• 33:03
  Speaker 7: was doing all the recording singing all the Luis Miguel
• 33:06
  Speaker 7: songs she was there with me like she is so
• 33:09
  Speaker 7: well behaved that she'll be in the studio inside where
• 33:13
  Speaker 7: I'm recording with me not making a sound to where
• 33:17
  Speaker 7: the engineers go like like she like you know and
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  Speaker 7: like normally she pants because she's a Belgian shepherd with
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  Speaker 7: long hair so she's and she makes not a peep
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  Speaker 7: it's like It's stupid how well she behaves whenever we're.
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  Speaker 8: On set, you know? And, um, and it's, it's, it's just,
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  Speaker 8: it's just, it's just great.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah.
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  Speaker 8: She's, you know, I, I bring her everywhere, you know, everywhere.
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  Speaker 2: So ideal.
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  Speaker 4: That is, I wish I could say the same about
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  Speaker 4: my golden retriever. She is so not behave well behaved
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  Speaker 4: at all.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 6: Okay.
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  Speaker 3: So for whoever's listening, the last time we were all
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  Speaker 3: on this podcast, my laptop decided to crash. So, um,
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  Speaker 3: We are back about a month later trying to wrap
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  Speaker 3: this up again. But luckily, we got through most of
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  Speaker 3: the episode before this happened. So to wrap up, guys,
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  Speaker 3: what is a piece of advice that you would give
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  Speaker 3: to the younger generation or your younger self?
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  Speaker 5: Piece of advice I would give to the younger generation
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  Speaker 5: or my younger self. I would tell my younger self to...
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  Speaker 5: like enjoy the process more and kind of trust the
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  Speaker 5: process more. And like, you know, when you're young, you're
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  Speaker 5: so focused on results and, you know, getting certain projects,
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  Speaker 5: moving your career to, you know, the next level. And
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  Speaker 5: I think it's so important to, be able to enjoy
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  Speaker 5: the hardships to enjoy the, um, just learning and, and, and, and,
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  Speaker 5: and just kind of trust the process, knowing that everything
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  Speaker 5: happens for a reason, you know, like you, you know,
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  Speaker 5: starting up, I, you know, audition for stuff, I test
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  Speaker 5: for stuff and wouldn't get it. And it would, you know, completely,
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  Speaker 5: you know, break my heart. And now I'm like, you know,
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  Speaker 5: looking back, obviously hindsight 2020, I'm like, wow, you know,
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  Speaker 5: thank God that everything happened the way it did, you know?
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  Speaker 5: So that's probably what I tell my younger self.
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  Speaker 6: I think my answer is similar, but in, in, in
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  Speaker 6: a different way, I feel like Diego's had a very
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  Speaker 6: clear career path since he was 12th. He knew when
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  Speaker 6: he was 12 that he wanted to be an actor
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  Speaker 6: and a singer. And it's been his passion since day one.
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  Speaker 6: And I remember calling him when I was in college
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  Speaker 6: and him asking me, like, have you found that thing
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  Speaker 6: for you yet?
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  Speaker 1: And me saying, I have no idea.
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  Speaker 6: And it felt isolating in the silo of like our family,
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  Speaker 6: him as my older brother and that example that I had.
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  Speaker 6: And I think for a while there, it was almost surprising.
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  Speaker 6: And people would always ask questions about like, oh, like
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  Speaker 6: from finance.
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  Speaker 1: To this, like How does that work?
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  Speaker 6: Or do you wish you had gone to film school
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  Speaker 6: and studied this instead now that you're working in it?
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  Speaker 1: And I think just trusting the.
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  Speaker 6: Fact that your career may not look or feel linear,
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  Speaker 6: you might not have it all figured out like Diego
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  Speaker 6: did when he was 12, but you end up where
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  Speaker 6: you need to be and no time spent is time
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  Speaker 6: wasted so long as you learn from every mistake that
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  Speaker 6: you make. Like there's skills that I can apply to
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  Speaker 6: my job today that I learned in finance. And there
• 36:52
  Speaker 6: were skills from my liberal arts education that I applied
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  Speaker 6: to my job in finance that had nothing to do
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  Speaker 6: with numbers. I think that you can take something away
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  Speaker 6: from everything and it doesn't have to feel like you've
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  Speaker 6: been on a very clear linear direct path to where
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  Speaker 6: you wanna be. It's okay to take weird detours and
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  Speaker 6: it always ends up kind of working out for the best.
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  Speaker 5: And for the younger generation, for aspiring actors or, you know,
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  Speaker 5: people who want to be in this business, whether it's writing, directing,
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  Speaker 5: or in any capacity, you know, if you feel that
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  Speaker 5: passion and you really feel that this is what you
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  Speaker 5: were meant to, you know, what, what, what, what you
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  Speaker 5: were born to do is just not giving up, you know, this, this,
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  Speaker 5: this career is not a meritocracy, you know, talent doesn't
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  Speaker 5: end up winning necessarily at the end. It's, you know,
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  Speaker 5: survival of the fittest. It's, you know, you go to
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  Speaker 5: 100 auditions, you get rejected, but then you go to the,
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  Speaker 5: you know, 101. And then that's the one that ends
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  Speaker 5: up happening, you know, so it's a combination of, you know, preparation,
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  Speaker 5: bettering the craft, but most importantly.
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  Speaker 8: Not giving up.
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  Speaker 2: Very well said.
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  Speaker 3: And I think what you guys both said individually kind
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  Speaker 3: of ties in together. It's like, it might not be now,
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  Speaker 3: but if it's meant to happen for you, it will,
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  Speaker 3: whether that be One job that you're not super happy in,
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  Speaker 3: ultimately you will land on your feet if you just
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  Speaker 3: trust the process.
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  Speaker 7: 100%.
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  Speaker 2: Or if you make a career pivot.
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  Speaker 5: And you have to have fun.
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  Speaker 3: You do have to have fun. And I'm sure working
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  Speaker 3: with your sibling is very fun.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: It's a blast.
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  Speaker 5: We have a great time.
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  Speaker 3: It sure sounds like it. I wish you guys the
• 38:39
  Speaker 3: best for this year. Seriously, good luck with absolutely everything.
• 38:42
  Speaker 3: You've been such a delight to get to know. And
• 38:44
  Speaker 3: I'm so grateful that you came on not once, but
• 38:46
  Speaker 3: only twice to my podcast. So thank you. Fingers crossed
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  Speaker 3: that there's no more technical issues. I know this has
• 38:53
  Speaker 3: been a little delayed, but I really am so grateful.
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  Speaker 3: And I hope to see you both back in LA.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, let's hang.
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  Speaker 2: Let's hang sometime soon.
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  Speaker 1: Absolutely.
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  Speaker 2: I'd love to hang.
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  Speaker 5: Thank you so much for the space and for the time.
• 39:04
  Speaker 2: Of course, guys. We'll do a hang with all the boys.
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  Speaker 7: I love it.
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  Speaker 6: Alrighty.
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  Speaker 2: I'll see you. Bye, guys.
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  Speaker 6: Bye.
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  Speaker 8: See you, guys.