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The Kenny Report | 5 March · The Kenny Report

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Speaker 1: Line from the Skying New Center. This is the Kenny Report.
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Speaker 2: Thanks for joining me.
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Speaker 3: Tonight, Opposition Leader Peter Dutton joins me to talk about
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Speaker 3: the Prime Minister's crazy idea to consider Australian troops as
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Speaker 3: peacekeepers in Ukraine. Southeast Queensland, the third most populated part
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Speaker 3: of the nation, prepares to be hit by Cyclone Alfred,
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Speaker 3: but still the climate zealots want to make it all
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Speaker 3: about their political preoccupations. I'll expose them with facts. US
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Speaker 3: President Donald Trump addresses Congress. He gives himself a huge
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Speaker 3: thumbs up, of course, rubs his victory in the face
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Speaker 3: of the Democrats and promises there's even better still to come. Also,
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Speaker 3: our economy struggling to grow as debt, deficit, taxation and
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Speaker 3: the cost of living keep going up. Also tonight, Pauline
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Speaker 3: Hansen and the Wednesday Wrangle with Liz and Justin let's
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Speaker 3: get into it.
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Speaker 4: One hundred schools will close tomorrow.
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Speaker 3: Emergency services and defense assets have been deployed. Families and
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Speaker 3: communities are working to protect themselves and their properties, and
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Speaker 3: some people are leaving the danger zones as Southeast Queensland
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Speaker 3: and northern New South Wales battened down for tropical Cyclone Alfred.
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Speaker 5: Tropical Cyclone Alfred has begun. It's westerly trajectory towards the
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Speaker 5: southeast Queensland coast, likely to make landfall on Friday morning.
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Speaker 5: The system is currently analyzed as a category to tropical cyclone.
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Speaker 5: Sitting over four hundred kilometers to the east of Brisbane.
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Speaker 3: Queensland Premier David chris A fully is overseeing the preparations.
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Speaker 6: Now's a great time to get to know your neighbors
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Speaker 6: if you don't, and talk to them about it. It's
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Speaker 6: really important that people understand that the threat is real,
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Speaker 6: be prepared, and to know that we are doing the
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Speaker 6: work to be prepared as well and will continue to
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Speaker 6: do that.
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Speaker 3: As you saw there, he even had the Prime Minister
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Speaker 3: by his with Anthony Albernezi flying into the eye of
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Speaker 3: the storm so to speak, just days out probably from
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Speaker 3: calling the federal election.
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Speaker 7: Oh, it's due to travel to Western Australia on Friday
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Speaker 7: and Saturday, but chances are intend to stay on the
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Speaker 7: East coast. NEMA is based in Canberra. That's a good
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Speaker 7: place to monitor what is happening nationally.
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Speaker 4: Handy place to be if you're going to call the
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Speaker 4: election too.
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Speaker 3: It's hard to rationalize why the PM needed to be
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Speaker 3: in Brisbane today, to be honest, Still, I guess he's
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Speaker 3: damned if he does, and damned if he doesn't. We
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Speaker 3: will keep you up to date with all the latest
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Speaker 3: on Cyclone Alfred here on Sky News and I'll cross
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Speaker 3: live to the coast later in the program. But now
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Speaker 3: I want to hit back again at some of the
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Speaker 3: climate alarmis. I want to call them out with some facts.
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Speaker 4: Every time we.
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Speaker 3: Face a natural disaster, the climate zealot seem to disregard
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Speaker 3: the suffering and traw confronting people and focus only on
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Speaker 3: the political or ideological points they want to make, and
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Speaker 3: they don't let the facts get in the way. Rather
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Speaker 3: than dealing with nature and helping people, their intent on
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Speaker 3: exaggerating and even misrepresenting reality to pretend that these natural
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Speaker 3: disasters are new or worse or unprecedented, and most notting
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Speaker 3: and dangerous of all, they pretend that political action can
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Speaker 3: fix or prevent them.
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Speaker 4: Here's the Climate Council today, Why is this unusual? Climate?
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Speaker 8: Pollution is making our atmosphere and our oceans way hotter,
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Speaker 8: and these record breaking ocean temperatures are supercharging powerful cyclones.
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Speaker 8: A hotter atmosphere caused by climate change also means more moisture,
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Speaker 8: and that means the extreme range tropical cyclone Alfred Brains
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Speaker 8: will be heavier and more intense. And lastly, the coastal
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Speaker 8: storm surges, flooding and erosion will be much worse due
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Speaker 8: to the twenty centimeter sea level in the region thanks
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Speaker 8: to climate pollution.
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Speaker 3: And that was hot on the hills, as you know
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Speaker 3: of the Victorian Labor premiere I showed you yesterday.
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Speaker 9: We are seeing repeat extreme weather patterns that we've not seen,
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Speaker 9: the likes of which you know, massive floods and storms
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Speaker 9: and fires, all happening almost simultaneously.
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Speaker 3: And then there's much of the media, of course, the
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Speaker 3: Sydney Morning Herald ran alarmist nonsense about cyclones heading south
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Speaker 3: being new and that soon they'll be heading for Sydney. Well,
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Speaker 3: I showed you some better factual historical reporting last night.
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Speaker 3: I showed you the report that pointed out there was
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Speaker 3: a deadly cyclone in southeast Queensland in the nineteen fifties
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Speaker 3: and then there was more in the.
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Speaker 4: Sixties, seventies and nineties too.
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Speaker 3: So pretending this is in any way unprecedented is just
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Speaker 3: plain wrong. In fact, all the evidence, all the scientific evidence,
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Speaker 3: as detailed by none other than the IPCC, the International
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Speaker 3: Panel on Climate Change, the United Nations body that publishes
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Speaker 3: the scientific bible on climate change. Well, it shows that
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Speaker 3: cyclones in Australia are on the decline. When you look
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Speaker 3: at this section from the IPCC about observed changes in
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Speaker 3: the weather, it says clearly that there has been a
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Speaker 3: decline in tropical cyclone frequency near Australia. And again in
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Speaker 3: this section it details there have been fewer tropical cyclones
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Speaker 3: since nineteen eighty two, with a twenty two percent reduction
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Speaker 3: in translation speed.
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Speaker 4: That's the speed at which the.
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Speaker 3: Storms move over Australia since halfway through the last century.
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Speaker 4: So there you go. Those are the facts.
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Speaker 3: It doesn't make life any easier for those facing Cyclone
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Speaker 3: Alfred right now, because that threat, of course is real
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Speaker 3: and will stay on that. But the climate zealots should
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Speaker 3: stop trading on that trauma pretending this proves their political positions,
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Speaker 3: and they most definitely should stop telling people that driving
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Speaker 3: expensive electric cars or paying more for unreliable renewable electricity
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Speaker 3: will somehow prevent natural disasters.
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Speaker 4: It can't, and it won't.
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Speaker 3: A couple of developments when it comes to the social
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Speaker 3: division in this country. The rampant anti Semitism are now
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Speaker 3: a chilling example of hatred directed at a Muslim community. First,
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Speaker 3: an update on that horrible hate field video where two
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Speaker 3: nurses from Bankstown Hospital allegedly threatened to kill Israeli patients
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Speaker 3: and even claim that had already happened.
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Speaker 4: The woman, Sarah.
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Speaker 3: Abu Lebde, was charged last week and today the male nurse,
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Speaker 3: twenty seven year old Armored Rashad Nadir, was charged. Both
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Speaker 3: face federal charges related to threats and harassment using carriage devices,
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Speaker 3: and both are due in court in coming weeks. But
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Speaker 3: an arrest too last night in connection to a threat
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Speaker 3: against this mosque in southwestern Sydney, which only opened on
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Speaker 3: the weekend. A social media post sent to the community
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Speaker 3: threatened a christ Church two point zero would be inflicted
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Speaker 3: on the mosque. That's clearly a reference to the hideous
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Speaker 3: slaughter of fifty one people at mosques in christ Church,
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Speaker 3: New Zealand in twenty nineteen. So in response to this
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Speaker 3: online threat against the Sydney mosque, police have arrested a
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Speaker 3: sixteen year old in western Australia.
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Speaker 4: The arrest was swift and.
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Speaker 3: Especially given that New Zealand atrocity was committed by an Australian,
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Speaker 3: this was a disgusting and frightening threat. It is, however,
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Speaker 3: an isolated incident, along with the alleged assault of two
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Speaker 3: women in Melbourne last month, allegedly because they were wearing
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Speaker 3: he jabs. Yet the National Immann's Council issued a statement
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Speaker 3: that refers to the rise in violent Islamophobic attacks and
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Speaker 3: significant failure to address the issue, pressing for more government
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Speaker 3: and law enforcement action to combat Islamophobia. Now to be clear, attacks,
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Speaker 3: threats and discrimination against Muslims in this country are not
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Speaker 3: to be tolerated. But this is not a competition. There
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Speaker 3: is no need to exaggerate what's going on. The fact
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Speaker 3: is the overwhelming challenge on social cohesion is the long
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Speaker 3: running wave of anti Semitism that has produced countless death threats,
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Speaker 3: a series of fire bombings, an arson attack on a synagogue,
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Speaker 3: threatening chance in the streets, the celebration by a religious
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Speaker 3: leader of the slaughter of innocent Israelis, and repellent threats
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Speaker 3: on video about killing Israeli patients. So just as Jewish
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Speaker 3: groups have condemned this latest threat against a mosque. We
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Speaker 3: need to see more Muslim leaders condemning anti Semitism on
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Speaker 3: the broader issues in the Middle East, the war that's
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Speaker 3: fueling tensions in this country. I want to show you
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Speaker 3: a brilliant reality check provided to the United Nations. The
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Speaker 3: woman you're about to hear from is Rawan Osman, born
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Speaker 3: in Syria and raised in Lebanon as a Muslim. She's
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Speaker 3: speaking to the United Nations Human Rights Council, and.
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Speaker 4: I'll play you all of this. It's only a minute
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Speaker 4: and a half and it's certainly worth a look. Are
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Speaker 4: you outwedged with the war in Gaza?
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Speaker 2: So am? I?
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Speaker 10: Since October seventh, I visited Israel nine times and I
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Speaker 10: want to testify before God and you Israel is not
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Speaker 10: the problem. Last week, Israel buried Shribbas with her children,
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Speaker 10: Ariel and fear. Hamas said they had been arrested. Forensic
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Speaker 10: reports show they were choked.
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Speaker 4: To death in Gaza.
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Speaker 10: But many who point fingers at Israel might do better
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Speaker 10: to look in the mirror. I asked, Katar, why didn't
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Speaker 10: you arrest Hamas chiefs in Doha and demand release of
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Speaker 10: the hostages. Why did you finance terror, and I ask Iran,
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Speaker 10: why do you send billions to Hamas and Hezbollah instead
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Speaker 10: of liberating your own people who are suffering oppression and poverty. Egypt,
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Speaker 10: you charged dozens thousands of dollars to escape the war.
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Speaker 10: How can you lecture about the morality of displacing gardens Jordan?
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Speaker 10: Why have you refused to accept any Gossans? Are they
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Speaker 10: not your own people? Leb themon instead of discussing has
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Speaker 10: Baala's political role than the party Syria. If the new
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Speaker 10: president is sincere about his trend information, I ask him
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Speaker 10: to return the body of Elikoin it's been six decades,
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Speaker 10: allow his wife to bury him before she dies. Hamas
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Speaker 10: abuses that body is Bia batter Arab Bia better Muslim.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's brilliant stuff because it's true calling out the
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Speaker 3: Muslim nations, the Middle East nations who do nothing to
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Speaker 3: help the Palestinian people and everything to try to put
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Speaker 3: pressure on Israel and support terrorism against Israel. Osmond calls
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Speaker 3: herself an Arab Zionist. Couldn't we do with a few
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Speaker 3: more of them? US President Donald Trump addressed a joint
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Speaker 3: sitting of Congress today, effectively a state of the Union
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Speaker 3: address just six weeks after his inauguration. I'll have plenty
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Speaker 3: more on this later, but one key aspect that we
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Speaker 3: were looking for, of course, was the president's next step
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Speaker 3: on Ukraine after that blow up in.
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Speaker 4: The Oval Off just days ago.
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Speaker 3: Over night, Ukraine President Vladimir Zelenski sent Trump a conciliatory
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Speaker 3: letter and social media message, and it looks to have
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Speaker 3: been embraced by the US President.
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Speaker 11: Earlier today I received an important letter from President Zelenski
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Speaker 11: of Ukraine. The letter reads, Ukraine is ready to come
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Speaker 11: to the negotiating table as soon as possible regarding the
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Speaker 11: agreement on minerals and security. Ukraine is ready to sign
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Speaker 11: it at any time that is convenient for you. I
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Speaker 11: appreciate that he sent this letter. It's time to stop
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Speaker 11: this madness. It's time to halt the killing. It's time
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Speaker 11: to end the senseless war. If you want to end wars,
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Speaker 11: you have to talk to both sides.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, Trump has got Europe stepping up with defense spending
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Speaker 3: and other commitments, and he's got Ukraine looking to get
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Speaker 3: back to the negotiating table. There's always a method in
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Speaker 3: his madness. But this pause on aid to Ukraine is
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Speaker 3: still in place. Let's hope that's dropped soon and that highlights,
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Speaker 3: of course that what is not happening yet, and that
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Speaker 3: is US diplomatic and military pressure on Russia, which is
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Speaker 3: what the world needs to see. Both our Prime Minister
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Speaker 3: and Opposition leader Peter Dutton are keen to keep supporting
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Speaker 3: Ukraine and maximize pressure on Russia. Yet even still, Anthony
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Speaker 3: Albanezi sent shock waves through Australia and through his own
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Speaker 3: party yesterday suggesting we might send peacekeepers.
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Speaker 7: There discussion at the moment about potential peacekeeping and from
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Speaker 7: my government's perspective, we're open to consideration of any proposals
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Speaker 7: going forward.
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Speaker 4: Wow man.
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Speaker 3: The prime Minister's deputy and Defense Minister Richard Miles, tried
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Speaker 3: to hose down the issue today but still didn't rule
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Speaker 3: out a deployment.
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Speaker 12: Well, it's I mean, I'm normally waiting for requests to
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Speaker 12: come in and we are waiting for those requests to
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Speaker 12: come in, but we'll give them due consideration. So in
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Speaker 12: that sense, nothing has changed, and the Prime Minister have
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Speaker 12: made that point yesterday that when if and when a
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Speaker 12: request comes in, we will have a good look at
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Speaker 12: it and see how we can contribute. I mean a
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Speaker 12: point the Prime minist that made yesterday, which is right,
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Speaker 12: is that we do have a signe of n history
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Speaker 12: of peacekeeping around the world.
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Speaker 3: Really boots on the ground in Ukraine, Aussie boots. I
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Speaker 3: think we've got a few more challenges closer to home.
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Speaker 3: Right at the moment, Peter Dutton joined me to discuss
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Speaker 3: this issue, but he was talking from his home north
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Speaker 3: of Brisbane, so I started by asking about preparations for
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Speaker 3: cyclone Alfred.
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Speaker 2: So good to be with you.
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Speaker 13: Look, I think the warnings that the Premier is issued
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Speaker 13: really have to be taken seriously. Generally people are a
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Speaker 13: bit skeptical about the weather reports and what the bomb
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Speaker 13: is reporting, but this is a very serious event and
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Speaker 13: Australians are preparing coincidents. In particular at the moment people
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Speaker 13: in northern New South Wales are preparing for this cyclone
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Speaker 13: to costs across the coast. We don't know the intensity
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Speaker 13: of it yet, but it doesn't seem, particularly the pace
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Speaker 13: it's moving at that any of the intensity is going
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Speaker 13: to go from it. So yep, I think everyone's in
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Speaker 13: a preparation mode and just battening down and making sure
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Speaker 13: that no loose objects in the yard and it's a
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Speaker 13: really important message to heat at the moment from the
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Speaker 13: premiere and from the mayors, and please have a look
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Speaker 13: at the websites and make sure you take the appropriate action.
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Speaker 3: Give us a sense from your personal point of view
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Speaker 3: what it's like, what you're expecting to unfold on your
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Speaker 3: own proper And also about neighbors. No doubt people are
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Speaker 3: getting together with neighbors and making sure everyone's okay.
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Speaker 13: Yeah, Chris, look, it's been pretty eerie. Actually, it's just
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Speaker 13: been dead still. There's a little bit of wind in
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Speaker 13: the air at the moment and the trees are starting
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Speaker 13: to sort of feel that a bit, but it obviously
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Speaker 13: ramps up, and the prediction at the moment is that
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Speaker 13: sort of Thursday night early Friday morning is the really
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Speaker 13: crucial critical period. So yes, I mean there's a lot
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Speaker 13: of preparation going on, helping out family members and neighbors
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Speaker 13: with preparation. People who feel that they may be inundated
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Speaker 13: with water. They're moving to friends homes, and it's the
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Speaker 13: case that businesses are trying to take stock up to
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Speaker 13: higher grounds. A lot of people have lived through floodwaters
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Speaker 13: in southeast Queensland, but we haven't had a cyclone for
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Speaker 13: a long period of time, and it's obviously a densely
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Speaker 13: populated area, and the housing is built obviously to a
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Speaker 13: high standard, but not necessarily to a standard that I
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Speaker 13: could withstandard a significant cyclone.
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Speaker 3: All right, well, we wish you on All Queenslanders and
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Speaker 3: people in northern New South Wales are the best on that.
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Speaker 3: But the reason we got you on was to talk
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Speaker 3: about what's happening in Ukraine.
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Speaker 4: As a starting point. You must be pleased that the
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Speaker 4: European are stepping up.
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Speaker 3: They're increasing their defense spending, they're offering more assistance to
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Speaker 3: Ukraine and even suggesting that they'll put boots on the
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Speaker 3: ground as potential peacekeepers.
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Speaker 13: I am, and I think frankly President Trump can claim
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Speaker 13: credit for that. Back in his first presidency he highlighted
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Speaker 13: this fact. And the reality is that I think we've
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Speaker 13: lived with a complacency since the end of the Second
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Speaker 13: World War, particularly in Europe. Australian troops lost their lives
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Speaker 13: during the course of the World War to protect the
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Speaker 13: Europeans and to protect our way of life and peace,
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Speaker 13: and ultimately Australia is the beneficiary of the United States
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Speaker 13: and others coming to our aid it's right that we
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Speaker 13: are part of strategic alliances, and we've certainly been a
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Speaker 13: very close partner and remained so always will be with
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Speaker 13: the US and the UK in particular, but other partners.
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Speaker 13: But to see Europeans, Germany, Italy, France and other nations
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Speaker 13: in Europe start to increase the amount of money that
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Speaker 13: they're spending in their defense budgets, I think that is
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Speaker 13: encouraging and there is a long way to go. But
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Speaker 13: to keep somebody like Putin at Bay from traversing through Europe,
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Speaker 13: we need to make sure that, over the course of
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Speaker 13: this decade and over the course of this century, that
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Speaker 13: European countries are in the best position to defeat any
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Speaker 13: active aggression.
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Speaker 3: You must have been shocked, then, for Anthony ALBERNIZI to
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Speaker 3: suggest that he would consider any proposal for Australian.
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Speaker 4: Troops to be peacekeepers in Ukraine.
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Speaker 2: Is that going too far?
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Speaker 4: Surely?
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Speaker 13: Well, I think certainly the Defense Minister was shocked because
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Speaker 13: he's tried to walk that back today. So clearly the
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Speaker 13: Defense Minister, the deputy Prime Minister is at odds with
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Speaker 13: where the Prime minister is, and the Defense Industry Minister
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Speaker 13: as well also tried to find a different form of
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Speaker 13: words from the Prime Minister.
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Speaker 2: I think the Prime Minister was shooting from the hip.
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Speaker 13: I don't think it was well considered, and I think
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Speaker 13: he was trying to take his moment to look tough
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Speaker 13: and to look strong, but in fact the opposite happened.
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Speaker 13: It was just another example of where Anthony Alberaneesi constantly
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Speaker 13: makes the wrong core and I think Australians now see
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Speaker 13: not just a weak prime minister, but somebody who's completely
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Speaker 13: out of his depth. We're not going to put boots
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Speaker 13: on the ground and as he's proposing, particularly given that
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Speaker 13: there is no commitment yet from European nations to do
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Speaker 13: a similar thing. I think Kirs starm has shown great
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Speaker 13: leadership in the United Kingdom, but the fact is that
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Speaker 13: there is a lot to take care of in our
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Speaker 13: own neighborhood and we need to start funding defense appropriately
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Speaker 13: and under this government they've had eighty billion dollars ripped
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Speaker 13: out of them and I don't believe that the priority
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Speaker 13: for US as a nation now, with the uncertainty that
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Speaker 13: we see in the Indo Pacific, is to be putting
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Speaker 13: troops into.
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Speaker 2: Ukraine or into Europe.
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Speaker 3: Well, the RSL and other defense experts have suggested that
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Speaker 3: this would stretch Australia's military assets too far, that it's
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Speaker 3: not the right place to be sending our military personnel.
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Speaker 4: You mentioned some of the other ministers trying to walk this.
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Speaker 3: Back, but Anthony Abanese, Anthony Abanese is the Prime mini.
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Speaker 3: He's put this on the agenda yesterday. Surely we need
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Speaker 3: to hear a clear correction from him. Otherwise we still
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Speaker 3: have that out there that we're potentially part of a
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Speaker 3: peacekeeping force in Ukraine.
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Speaker 13: But Chris, I just think he keeps making these gaffs.
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Speaker 13: He made it in relation to what happened around the
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Speaker 13: Chinese vessels as well, completely misled the Australian public. Again,
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Speaker 13: he was either out of his depth or hadn't been
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Speaker 13: properly briefed, or maybe both. And it doesn't provide that assurance,
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Speaker 13: the reassurance that Australians require Australians from their Prime minister,
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Speaker 13: particularly in the area of national security. Somebody who knows
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Speaker 13: what they're talking about and somebody who has the ability
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Speaker 13: to stand up for our national interest. And the Prime
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Speaker 13: Minister seems to, I don't know, just have some passing
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Speaker 13: interest in national security but never really gets across the detail.
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Speaker 2: Well.
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Speaker 3: He was exposed as very weak on national security last week,
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Speaker 3: of course, because rather than condemning the lack of notice
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Speaker 3: for live firing exercise in the Tasman Sea by the Navy,
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Speaker 3: he was making excuses for them initially. If he's made
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Speaker 3: a mistake here, I again would suggest we need to
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Speaker 3: hear that directly from the Prime Minister, because otherwise what
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Speaker 3: he's talking about could be seen as reckless and dangerous
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Speaker 3: when it comes to Australia's interests.
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Speaker 13: I know, I agree, I agree absolutely with you. I
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Speaker 13: think the Prime Minister needs to clear this up because
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Speaker 13: the day before that he was saying that there'd be
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Speaker 13: no troops and that Australia wouldn't commit to those resources,
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Speaker 13: and then he flips the next day. And now, as
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Speaker 13: I say, we've got the Defense Minister and his junior
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Speaker 13: out there trying to clean up the Prime Minister's mess.
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Speaker 2: It doesn't look good for our country.
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Speaker 13: And frankly, I think the Prime Minister should admit that
21:43
Speaker 13: he overreached, that he made a mistake, and he should
21:47
Speaker 13: apologize for it and move on.
21:49
Speaker 3: All right, you have told us already how you've been
21:52
Speaker 3: getting ready to get through cyclone, Alfred, you're ready for
21:55
Speaker 3: an election campaign that could be on for young and
21:57
Speaker 3: old as soon as Sunday.
22:01
Speaker 13: We've been ready since last year, to be honest, so
22:03
Speaker 13: we've been refining our processes and going through all of
22:06
Speaker 13: our policies and the costings, and I think we've got
22:09
Speaker 13: an exciting plan for Australians. We want to get our
22:12
Speaker 13: country back on track, and no Australian can afford three
22:15
Speaker 13: more years of a labor government, let alone a labor
22:17
Speaker 13: minority government.
22:18
Speaker 2: So we're ready for it.
22:20
Speaker 13: I think calling it on Sunday would be a mistake
22:22
Speaker 13: and I think the Prime Minister would regret doing so
22:24
Speaker 13: because if, as we're advised, this cyclone does track across
22:28
Speaker 13: the coast, it is going to be causing a lot
22:31
Speaker 13: of damage. There will be a lot of flooding and
22:33
Speaker 13: there'll be a lot of families and businesses who are
22:35
Speaker 13: really devastated. And at that time, I think it's really
22:39
Speaker 13: the occasion for the Prime Minister to be governing, not campaigning.
22:42
Speaker 13: And I hope the Prime Minister wrote he's got until
22:45
Speaker 13: the seven eighth of May. There's no reason to bring
22:46
Speaker 13: it on early. But we'll see what he does.
22:49
Speaker 3: Well thoughts of Australians are all with people in the
22:51
Speaker 3: danger zone. Thanks so much for joining us, Peter Dutton.
22:53
Speaker 3: I appreciate it. Thanks Chris, take out mate, Thank you
22:57
Speaker 3: Opposition leader Peter Dutton. There north of Brisbane cyclone, Alfred.
23:01
Speaker 3: I want to go to another person sitting in the
23:02
Speaker 3: path of this cyclone now, and that is One Nation
23:05
Speaker 3: leader Pauline Hanson.
23:06
Speaker 4: Again not on the coast.
23:07
Speaker 3: Didn't land at Scenic Rim, back in behind the Gold Coast, Pauline,
23:10
Speaker 3: you must speak battling down the hatches there as well.
23:14
Speaker 14: Just watching it, making sure that I don't have damage
23:17
Speaker 14: done by high winds that could hit the property. And yeah,
23:22
Speaker 14: so anyway, I feel for the people out there who
23:24
Speaker 14: are in the path of the cyclone and a lot
23:26
Speaker 14: of these people face flooding before. Gold Coast and Brisbane
23:29
Speaker 14: haven't had it since nineteen seventy four floods, which I
23:32
Speaker 14: remember they were horrendous. So anyway, I just hope that
23:35
Speaker 14: there's not a lot of damage on people is keep safe.
23:38
Speaker 3: Indeed, I've got to get your thoughts on this latest
23:40
Speaker 3: indigenous heritage claim, the one on Mount Panorama at Bathurst.
23:44
Speaker 3: As I said last night, that's a sacred site for
23:46
Speaker 3: every petrol head in the country.
23:48
Speaker 4: This is just getting ridiculous, isn't it.
23:50
Speaker 3: I noticed the Coalition are now promising laws to change
23:54
Speaker 3: this if they win government.
23:56
Speaker 4: And you've been on about this for a long while, Chris.
24:00
Speaker 14: The whole thing is that this aberadgemente Australia Islander Heritage
24:04
Speaker 14: Act has been in place about over forty years that
24:07
Speaker 14: I'm aware of. The fact is that Senator Susan Lay,
24:11
Speaker 14: she's not a Senator Susan Lay, who's the deputy leader
24:15
Speaker 14: for the Opposition, she actually set the president for this
24:18
Speaker 14: years ago when they came to her in twenty one
24:21
Speaker 14: about putting in a go kart track and caused the
24:23
Speaker 14: Aboraginal mob then approach her about it. So she set
24:26
Speaker 14: the president then and Tender Plavisac did the same for
24:29
Speaker 14: the blaming minds. It's got completely out of control. Let
24:33
Speaker 14: me tell people the background to the story. Brian Grant died,
24:37
Speaker 14: so this mob went to the Council to spread his
24:40
Speaker 14: ashes on Mount Panorama or Mount Philamy. So anyway, it
24:45
Speaker 14: was agreed to do it and they allowed them. Now
24:47
Speaker 14: they're claiming it as a heritage site for cultural reasons
24:50
Speaker 14: because these ashes are there. How ridiculous is all?
24:53
Speaker 4: This was twenty twenty two, Chris, as.
24:55
Speaker 14: I said twenty twenty two, correct, So they got permission
25:00
Speaker 14: for the councils spread the ashes. Now they're claiming as
25:02
Speaker 14: a heritage site.
25:04
Speaker 4: It's got to stop heritage site.
25:05
Speaker 14: So it has to stop, Chris. I'm bringing in policies
25:09
Speaker 14: that you know, no one will get treated anything differently
25:13
Speaker 14: to any other Australian based on the race, color of
25:15
Speaker 14: their skin, or the religion. Everyone will be treated equally
25:18
Speaker 14: in this country. We've got fifty four percent of Australia
25:21
Speaker 14: is now under native total. How much more are we
25:24
Speaker 14: going to be denied access to as Australians? And I
25:28
Speaker 14: have had a gupful of it because I was born here.
25:30
Speaker 14: This is my country as much as it is any
25:33
Speaker 14: Aboriginal and especially what really gets me annoyed, Chris, is
25:36
Speaker 14: these people claiming aboriginality are as white as what I am.
25:40
Speaker 14: Where's the culture, where's the heritage?
25:43
Speaker 4: It's a massive issue.
25:44
Speaker 3: You just talked there, and we can talk about every
25:47
Speaker 3: aspect of that along the way.
25:48
Speaker 4: We haven't got time for that now.
25:50
Speaker 3: But when it comes to these indigenous cultural heritage claims.
25:52
Speaker 4: It's been a mess for decades.
25:54
Speaker 3: As you know, I was involved in exposing the High
25:56
Speaker 3: Marsh Island fabrication, so that was back in the mid nineties,
26:00
Speaker 3: Coronation Hill before that. And yet the country still doesn't
26:03
Speaker 3: have a proper system for adjudging these things fairly and accurately.
26:08
Speaker 14: Because we haven't got leaders that got the guts to
26:11
Speaker 14: call it out. They're all terrified of being called bloody racist,
26:14
Speaker 14: and we're lending then in the other organizations, you know,
26:17
Speaker 14: tell us how to run our own country. Wake up, people,
26:20
Speaker 14: grow back by in our leaders and start doing something
26:23
Speaker 14: about it. It's more divisive than anything I've ever seen
26:26
Speaker 14: in my whole life.
26:27
Speaker 3: Thanks for joining us, Pauline, and I hope the next
26:29
Speaker 3: few days aren't too bad. Up there in the mountains
26:31
Speaker 3: behind the Gold Coast, pauling hands and there one nation leader.
26:35
Speaker 4: We've got to get to a break.
26:36
Speaker 3: On the other side, I'm going to check in on
26:37
Speaker 3: the economy. We're still struggling. Debt's going up, deficits going up,
26:41
Speaker 3: taxations going up, cost of living's going up.
26:43
Speaker 4: I'll speak with Warren Hogan.
26:49
Speaker 3: Just while we're talking defense and silly ideas about Australian
26:53
Speaker 3: troops being sent as peacekeepers to Ukraine. First Edition host
26:57
Speaker 3: Pete Stephanovic just sent me the latest out of China.
27:00
Speaker 3: They've just announced they're increasing their defense spending by more
27:03
Speaker 3: than seven percent, keeping up the growth of the past
27:07
Speaker 3: couple of years. China ramping up defense spending just makes
27:11
Speaker 3: our situation all the more important, doesn't it. I think
27:15
Speaker 3: it will figure pretty strongly in the election campaign. Now,
27:18
Speaker 3: let's get back to the economy, and it's taken twenty
27:20
Speaker 3: one months, but the per capita recession is officially over,
27:25
Speaker 3: like in a technical sense or a marginal sense, because
27:28
Speaker 3: while the economy grew zero point six percent in the
27:32
Speaker 3: December quarter, the GDP per capita growth was zero point
27:37
Speaker 3: one percent, and still, of course, over the year, which
27:41
Speaker 3: is the way most of us view and fill these things,
27:44
Speaker 3: we still went backwards per capita anyway, per household, we're
27:48
Speaker 3: getting poorer. But Treasurer Jim Chalmers, as ever he reckons,
27:52
Speaker 3: he's doing a pretty good job.
27:54
Speaker 15: We're confident that the worst is behind us, but we're
27:57
Speaker 15: not complacent because people are still under pressure.
28:00
Speaker 2: We know that, and the global conditions are still uncertain.
28:04
Speaker 3: Let's talk about these national account figures with Warren Hogan,
28:07
Speaker 3: Judo Banks, Chief Economic Advisor. Good to talk to you again, Warrender.
28:11
Speaker 3: First up, just on the general state of the economy.
28:14
Speaker 3: Was this good news today or just more of the same.
28:18
Speaker 15: Look, Chris, it is good news in the sense that
28:21
Speaker 15: we're seeing some improvement in private sector spending. This idea
28:25
Speaker 15: that the private sector is weak and it's the government
28:28
Speaker 15: here to the rescue in the last twelve months is
28:31
Speaker 15: not correct and we're getting evidence of that with a
28:34
Speaker 15: little bit more spending by consumers. Business investments soft, but
28:39
Speaker 15: it's showing signs of improvement. So look, I think it's
28:43
Speaker 15: pointing to an economy that's on the improved, but we're
28:46
Speaker 15: still suffering from severe problems related to productivity, real wages,
28:51
Speaker 15: living standards, and that's hanging around.
28:54
Speaker 3: I want to get your take on how this is
28:56
Speaker 3: driven by the size of government in our economy, how
28:59
Speaker 3: the govern is crowding out the private sector.
29:02
Speaker 4: Look at these numbers on taxation.
29:04
Speaker 3: Talk us through this how personal income tax has increased
29:08
Speaker 3: over the term of this government.
29:10
Speaker 15: Yeah, well, these numbers today just further reinforce just what
29:14
Speaker 15: a big spending, big taxing government Australia has become. And
29:19
Speaker 15: this latest government is really ramming at home. You can
29:22
Speaker 15: see what a massive increase of personal income tax take.
29:26
Speaker 15: From just three years, we've seen it go up by
29:28
Speaker 15: almost forty percent, and of course this is to fund
29:31
Speaker 15: a massive increase in government spending. And most importantly, it's
29:36
Speaker 15: a huge shift away from what we've been doing for
29:39
Speaker 15: the last thirty years. I mean, this chart shows you
29:42
Speaker 15: that income tax take is back to where it was
29:44
Speaker 15: when the GST was introduced. And of course we all
29:47
Speaker 15: got a big income tax cut, yeah to cover the GST.
29:50
Speaker 15: So we've now got the GST plus income tax burden
29:54
Speaker 15: back to where it was.
29:54
Speaker 2: Wow. Yeah.
29:55
Speaker 4: And this is driven mainly by bracket creep.
29:58
Speaker 15: Right, bracket creep as a primary driver. Obviously a growing
30:04
Speaker 15: labor force is part of it, but the reality here
30:07
Speaker 15: is and this is why inflation is so evil. Bracket
30:11
Speaker 15: creep pushes people into higher tax brackets and it's a
30:14
Speaker 15: tax hike, although no one has to actually go and
30:17
Speaker 15: admit it. And I think this is why we need
30:19
Speaker 15: to index income tax brackets to get away from this
30:23
Speaker 15: free hit that governments get. Although I think the Australian
30:26
Speaker 15: people understand this.
30:27
Speaker 3: They do, but you're right, indexation, we'll get rid of
30:29
Speaker 3: it overnight and force governments to actually trim their cloth
30:33
Speaker 3: to what's available.
30:34
Speaker 4: Because let's have a look at the spending, the extra spending.
30:38
Speaker 3: This additional tax take is funding thirteen percent in state
30:41
Speaker 3: and local governments, nearly three times that from the federal government.
30:46
Speaker 7: Yeah.
30:46
Speaker 15: So one of the sort of the foundation points of
30:50
Speaker 15: our modern prosperity ever since the Hawk reforms of the
30:53
Speaker 15: eighties was modest governments and a financial discipline, you know,
30:59
Speaker 15: across state and federal governments. But in the last decade
31:01
Speaker 15: it has just been thrown out the window. The Charter
31:04
Speaker 15: of budget honesty has been torn up, and in federal
31:08
Speaker 15: government spending terms, it is a phenomenal increase of thirty
31:12
Speaker 15: percent increase in the share of the economy from recurrent spending.
31:17
Speaker 15: We're not talking about investment and infrastructure. We're talking about
31:19
Speaker 15: recurren spending. We haven't seen anything like this in terms
31:23
Speaker 15: of a shift since the late sixties and the early
31:25
Speaker 15: seventies with the introduction of the welfare state.
31:28
Speaker 3: Incredible stuff, Warren, Thanks for walking us through all that,
31:31
Speaker 3: Warren Hogan. They're from Judo Bank chief economists. There spending,
31:35
Speaker 3: big government, big spending. That's the backdrop to everything we're
31:39
Speaker 3: talking about in this federal election campaign, driving out the
31:42
Speaker 3: private sector, driving up your taxes, and pushing up inflation
31:45
Speaker 3: and the cost of living.
31:47
Speaker 4: We've got to get to a break on the other side.
31:48
Speaker 3: I want to unpack the key moments from Donald Trump's
31:51
Speaker 3: address to Congress today.
31:53
Speaker 4: Kosher Garda will join me.
31:57
Speaker 3: Let's get the latest on tropical cyclone out for the
31:59
Speaker 3: School News Investigations Report.
32:01
Speaker 4: Jonathan Lee joins us from Burly Heads.
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Speaker 3: Good to speak to you, John, No give us a
32:05
Speaker 3: sense of what it's like there the calm before the storm.
32:08
Speaker 3: I know there's a lot of preparations in place, but
32:11
Speaker 3: people around.
32:11
Speaker 4: You there having a look.
32:13
Speaker 3: Is everyone pretty relaxed they've been through this sort of
32:15
Speaker 3: thing before, or is there.
32:16
Speaker 4: A bit of a concern about.
32:19
Speaker 2: No, in this instant, Chris, they haven't.
32:21
Speaker 16: There's actually a bit of a stunned or Queensland as
32:23
Speaker 16: a fairly jabril at.
32:24
Speaker 2: The best of times.
32:25
Speaker 16: Now coming out this afternoon, in this evening to look
32:27
Speaker 16: at the waves which are thunderously big at the moment,
32:31
Speaker 16: and for very good reason. This looks like being the
32:32
Speaker 16: biggest weather event to hit the Gold Coast in some
32:35
Speaker 16: seventy years, and the most significant cyclone to the first
32:40
Speaker 16: cyclone to cross the coast and strike Southeast Queensland and
32:43
Speaker 16: the Brisbane CBD in around fifty years. For that reason,
32:46
Speaker 16: you're looking at roughly four million odd people potentially in
32:49
Speaker 16: the firing line come early Friday morning, and the most
32:52
Speaker 16: damage will be south of the eye of the storm
32:55
Speaker 16: as you get the tail of that wind swing around
32:57
Speaker 16: and impact the homes in southeast Queensland.
32:59
Speaker 2: So this could be enormous.
33:01
Speaker 16: The unvarnished truth is that nobody really knows what's going
33:03
Speaker 16: to happen. The eye of the storm. You're looking at
33:05
Speaker 16: around ninety kilometers an hour. South of that, though with
33:08
Speaker 16: the wind gusts you're looking at around one hundred and
33:10
Speaker 16: thirty five kilometers an hour, and that's at a Cat too.
33:13
Speaker 16: It might be a fizzer and not eventuate, but it
33:15
Speaker 16: might end up being a Cat three, which is far worse.
33:18
Speaker 2: The only good news at this.
33:19
Speaker 16: Point in time is it looks like the crossing will
33:22
Speaker 16: come sometime after the high tide at two am on
33:25
Speaker 16: Friday morning. That means that that storm surge won't be
33:27
Speaker 16: quite as bad with the water that gets pushed inland
33:30
Speaker 16: but there are a lot of people very very nervous,
33:33
Speaker 16: especially around Brisbane CBD, which are accustomed to flooding. But
33:36
Speaker 16: you're talking anywhere between two hundred and four hundred mills
33:39
Speaker 16: of rain starting tomorrow each day through until Saturday, and
33:43
Speaker 16: unlike a normal storm which lasts maybe twenty or thirty minutes,
33:46
Speaker 16: you're talking six hours of heavy wind either side of
33:49
Speaker 16: a cyclone itself. Have a quick listen to what the
33:51
Speaker 16: Premiere and the Prime Minister said today.
33:55
Speaker 6: We are taking it seriously and we are ready and
33:57
Speaker 6: we want you to be ready as well. And if
33:59
Speaker 6: you are, I have every faith that Queensland's will get
34:02
Speaker 6: through this. I've seen these events at the other end
34:05
Speaker 6: of the state and I know how tough Queenslanders are.
34:08
Speaker 6: And the fact that three of us are standing here
34:11
Speaker 6: today with all of the agencies tells you that we
34:15
Speaker 6: are going to be in this in the short, medium
34:18
Speaker 6: and long term and you will get through this if
34:20
Speaker 6: you listen to messages and if you do the right
34:22
Speaker 6: thing by you and your family.
34:23
Speaker 7: There's no tweed border here. This is not recognized by
34:28
Speaker 7: the cyclone and it certainly shouldn't be recognized by government's responses.
34:34
Speaker 3: Yeah, those people behind you, John, and they'll be getting
34:36
Speaker 3: out and have a look around because they might be
34:38
Speaker 3: battened down for a couple of days to come. I
34:40
Speaker 3: suppose everybody is hoping that there'll be a change of
34:43
Speaker 3: direction and the cyclone heads back out to see again.
34:46
Speaker 3: But at the moment we're talking earlier Friday morning.
34:52
Speaker 2: We certainly are.
34:52
Speaker 16: We're being told that the water or off the coast
34:55
Speaker 16: at the moment is woman and the coral sea.
34:57
Speaker 2: Warm water only makes these things.
34:58
Speaker 16: Bigger and stronger, and that the reason it's come so
35:00
Speaker 16: far down the coast so not unprecedented. What also makes
35:04
Speaker 16: it interesting is you've got a brand new premier keen
35:06
Speaker 16: to stake his mark and a prime minister keen to
35:08
Speaker 16: hold onto the lodge where Queensland's all important.
35:10
Speaker 2: Yeah.
35:11
Speaker 3: Absolutely a bit of politics playing out there as well.
35:13
Speaker 3: Thanks for joining us, Jonathan Lee. Jonathan Lee at Burly
35:16
Speaker 3: Heads there where they are literally preparing for the storm
35:20
Speaker 3: in just over twenty four hours from now.
35:23
Speaker 4: Let's go to Washington. Now, catch up on Donald Trump.
35:25
Speaker 3: He's addressed at Congress for the first time since returning
35:29
Speaker 3: to the White House.
35:30
Speaker 4: Six weeks ago.
35:31
Speaker 3: It's like the State of the Union address well, they
35:33
Speaker 3: don't call it that when it's so early on like this.
35:35
Speaker 3: He talked a lot about his achievements, and there was
35:38
Speaker 3: a party atmosphere.
35:39
Speaker 4: I have a listen to this.
35:51
Speaker 11: Six weeks ago, I stood beneath the dome of this
35:55
Speaker 11: capital and proclaimed the dawn of the Golden Age of America.
36:02
Speaker 11: From that moment dawn, there's been nothing but swift and
36:06
Speaker 11: unrelenting action to us. You're in the greatest and most
36:10
Speaker 11: successful era in the history of our country. We have
36:15
Speaker 11: accomplished more in forty three days, and most administrations accomplished
36:20
Speaker 11: in four years or eight years, and we are just
36:24
Speaker 11: getting started.
36:27
Speaker 4: Yeah, we'll got some key aspects of that speech.
36:29
Speaker 3: But let me bring in Kosha Gatiscan and use contributor
36:31
Speaker 3: to joining us live from Melbourne Kosher first up, mean,
36:34
Speaker 3: just your assessment of this sort of speech and carry
36:38
Speaker 3: on was just an unheard of really some time ago.
36:40
Speaker 4: But we're used to it now. There's just classic Donald Trump.
36:45
Speaker 4: We are used to.
36:46
Speaker 6: Chris.
36:46
Speaker 17: Great to be with you as always. You know, as
36:48
Speaker 17: you said, normally this does not even happen in the
36:51
Speaker 17: inaugural year of a presidency because it's only a few
36:55
Speaker 17: months or a few weeks in and they haven't really had
36:57
Speaker 17: a chance to shape their policy agenda.
36:59
Speaker 4: Not this time.
37:00
Speaker 17: We are looking at government at the speed of Trump.
37:02
Speaker 17: He signed eighty two executive orders, is forty three days in.
37:05
Speaker 17: He's done all sorts of things, from tariffs to discussions
37:08
Speaker 17: of reframing the alliance with Europe and everything in between.
37:11
Speaker 17: So he certainly has no shortage of things to talk about.
37:14
Speaker 17: And he really has this air of victory that he
37:17
Speaker 17: exuded in the inauguration speech and he referenced in his
37:19
Speaker 17: opening line, and that he's going to continue to exude
37:21
Speaker 17: because we all know what this man had to withstand
37:24
Speaker 17: and go through to have his biggest comeback in political history.
37:27
Speaker 17: So I think that overtone sort of colored and colored
37:31
Speaker 17: the whole speech and was laced throughout it. And he's
37:33
Speaker 17: earned the right to take that victory lap.
37:35
Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, very much, a victory lap in the face
37:38
Speaker 3: of the Democrats in the chamber.
37:39
Speaker 2: There.
37:39
Speaker 3: Look, I want to go through some specific aspects, so
37:42
Speaker 3: I highlighted you crying earlier in the program. So let's
37:45
Speaker 3: go to global economics now and tariffs, and he's pushing
37:49
Speaker 3: forward on tariffs.
37:50
Speaker 4: He's the president.
37:52
Speaker 11: April tewond reciprocal tariffs kick in, and whatever they tariff
37:58
Speaker 11: us other countries, we will care of them. Let's reciprocal
38:03
Speaker 11: back and forth. Whatever they tax us, we will tax them.
38:10
Speaker 11: If they do non monitory charts to keep us out
38:16
Speaker 11: of their market, then we will do non monitor barriers
38:20
Speaker 11: to keep them out of our market.
38:23
Speaker 3: Sounds awfully like tride walls kosher. That could increase the
38:27
Speaker 3: cost of just about everything and anything for Americans and
38:31
Speaker 3: others around the world. He could also push down the
38:34
Speaker 3: stock market, which is an end city that Donald Trump
38:37
Speaker 3: loves to keep.
38:38
Speaker 4: His eye on.
38:41
Speaker 17: He does love to point to the stock market. It's
38:43
Speaker 17: sort of like an easy artifact, if you will, that
38:47
Speaker 17: you can point to and it plays well on the stump.
38:49
Speaker 17: But the thing is to keep in mind is his constituency.
38:52
Speaker 17: Here has really been a complete realignment of the electorate
38:54
Speaker 17: where it's much more the working class and much more
38:57
Speaker 17: young people, with whom he remains incredibly popular and huge
39:00
Speaker 17: turnaround from last time. Both those working class and young
39:03
Speaker 17: people are pretty asset light, so the stock market doesn't
39:06
Speaker 17: actually affect them as much day to day. In terms
39:08
Speaker 17: of people that voted for him with their feet and
39:10
Speaker 17: put him in the White House. I'm sure he's aware
39:12
Speaker 17: of that. And in terms of what terrorists are going
39:13
Speaker 17: to do to inflation. Look, he's got an economic theory.
39:16
Speaker 17: It is a break from Republican Party orthodoxy of the
39:19
Speaker 17: last half century and certainly the Democrats as well. He
39:22
Speaker 17: is remaking the party in his image. He loves the
39:25
Speaker 17: tool the instrument of terrorists. He points to William McKinley,
39:28
Speaker 17: a former US president who really was the king of arrorists,
39:31
Speaker 17: as he calls him. And he seems to really believe
39:33
Speaker 17: in it that even if there is short term pain
39:35
Speaker 17: and some of that trickles through into pricing, it will
39:37
Speaker 17: reorient society from a consumer driven society to production driven
39:41
Speaker 17: society and bring back jobs and all of that. That's
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Speaker 17: part of his philosophy. And wield it and we'll see
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Speaker 17: what happens.
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Speaker 4: Well, you know, it's a familiar debate. We all learn
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Speaker 4: about it in history.
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Speaker 3: One hundred and fifty years ago was the protection versus
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Speaker 3: the free tride. As we thought that debate had been
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Speaker 3: one on loss, but Donald Trump revives it again.
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Speaker 4: I want to have a look at an issue now.
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Speaker 3: We thought maybe if you thought the idea of the
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Speaker 3: Greenland territory from Denmark was finished as a strategic asset.
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Speaker 4: Donald Trump still got his eyes on that.
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Speaker 11: Have a look, could we need Greenland for national security
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Speaker 11: and even international security? And we're working with everybody involved
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Speaker 11: to try and get it, but we need it really
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Speaker 11: for international world security. And I think we're going to
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Speaker 11: get it.
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Speaker 2: One way or the other.
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Speaker 11: We're going to get it.
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Speaker 2: Well.
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Speaker 3: He essentially wants Greenland to vote to become part of
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Speaker 3: the US, but otherwise he's.
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Speaker 2: Going to get it.
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Speaker 4: He says, what on earth could he mean?
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Speaker 17: You know, this is classic Trump, as he said Chris,
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Speaker 17: was something that started as sort of maybe a whimsical idea,
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Speaker 17: and he did touch on it in twenty sixteen seventeen
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Speaker 17: a little bit, and it was sort of laughed away
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Speaker 17: and nothing that he pursued too. Now it's become a
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Speaker 17: legitimate debate. Parliament, Terrence and Greenland have weighed in. He
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Speaker 17: sent a delegation over there, and we know that his
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Speaker 17: two weapons of choice that he loves in wielding American
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Speaker 17: might to shape his policies are economic and the second
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Speaker 17: is security guarantees and both using them as.
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Speaker 4: Carrots and sticks.
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Speaker 17: So economically, we just discussed tariffs, which is one thing.
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Speaker 17: But the other thing he loves to do are these deals.
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Speaker 17: These like he is a businessman, so these co investment
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Speaker 17: joint venture funds. The minerals deal with Ukraine is sort
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Speaker 17: of a blueprint for that. It could be something like
41:23
Speaker 17: that where there's lots of natural resources in Greenland that
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Speaker 17: they don't have the money. Denmark doesn't have the money
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Speaker 17: to develop to the extent that America could, so let's
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Speaker 17: create some sort of joint fund. And then the second
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Speaker 17: thing is underwriting their security, because right now Denmark is
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Speaker 17: the middleman. And his argument is, you know, Denmark provides
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Speaker 17: security for them, but America provides security to Denmark. Effectively,
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Speaker 17: let's cut them out and just do a direct deal.
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Speaker 17: We're in exchange for that, you in some way become
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Speaker 17: a protectorate of America. It could look like many different things,
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Speaker 17: not necessarily a takeover, but he is pursuing it.
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Speaker 4: He sure is.
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Speaker 3: We will say thanks so much, Kuysher, I appreciate it
41:54
Speaker 3: picking your way through analyzing that speech for Kasha Gata,
41:57
Speaker 3: this god Use contributor in Melbourne. We've got to get
41:59
Speaker 3: to the after that, the Wednesday wrangle, we'll talk about
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Speaker 3: labour's green hydrogen plans.
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Speaker 4: I've been telling you this for months. They are up
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Speaker 4: in smoke.
42:07
Speaker 3: Also, Meghan Markel actually doesn't want to be called Meghan
42:10
Speaker 3: Markel anymore.
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Speaker 4: It's wrangle with Lady.
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Speaker 3: Bay co host list Staura here in Sydney with me
42:19
Speaker 3: in the Sky News Center and from Melbourne, author broadcaster
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Speaker 3: Justin Smith. Help us out here, Justin to come in
42:26
Speaker 3: and support Anthony Albernezi on the idea of sending Australian
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Speaker 3: troops as peacekeepers to Ukraine.
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Speaker 4: Do you reckon this one's going to fly?
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Speaker 1: I don't think it is going to fly. It's got
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Speaker 1: that feeling that it won't. Look there's no way that
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Speaker 1: he could possibly ever that Australia, you know, forget any
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Speaker 1: political party. There's no way that we could ever rule
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Speaker 1: out sending troops anywhere into the future. But I think
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Speaker 1: you know, when we talk about peacekeeping, it it's sort
42:55
Speaker 1: of got a nice fluffy name about it sometimes, isn't it,
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Speaker 1: because it's got the word peace in there. But what
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Speaker 1: we would really be talking about for a conflict between
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Speaker 1: Russia and Ukraine is just extraordinary. It won't be years. Well,
43:10
Speaker 1: it's nice to commit and manpower would be enormous. So
43:13
Speaker 1: I'm not really sure how you know when he talks
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Speaker 1: about it, if it's you know, it's big, it's been enormous.
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Speaker 3: I think it's an enormous mistake. Way ibu needy to
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Speaker 3: talk about this. I think there's no piece to be
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Speaker 3: kept now anyway, Liz. But I think this is our boat,
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Speaker 3: knowing that he's on the defensive about being weak on
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Speaker 3: national security and defense, and thinking, oh, yeah, I better
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Speaker 3: not rule this out.
43:37
Speaker 4: It's such a pull call.
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Speaker 18: It's times like this that you wonder where the heck
43:41
Speaker 18: is this guy getting his advice from.
43:43
Speaker 4: And this close to an election, do.
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Speaker 18: You really think that's going to win you any votes
43:47
Speaker 18: at a time when all the polls are showing, Mate,
43:49
Speaker 18: you desperately need every vote you can get your mits on.
43:52
Speaker 18: So do not think this is floating with the average assie.
43:56
Speaker 18: We already know and as the late great Senator Jim
43:59
Speaker 18: Molan to tell us add nauseum, and it was very
44:02
Speaker 18: necessary and I miss him greatly for this, because we
44:05
Speaker 18: don't really have somebody else in that space now telling
44:08
Speaker 18: us just how ill equipped our military is for anything,
44:12
Speaker 18: much less in all our conflict here at home. And
44:15
Speaker 18: yet our wo's talking about sending how many one can
44:19
Speaker 18: only imagine thousands of people that we don't have enough
44:23
Speaker 18: of our numbers, etc.
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Speaker 4: And so on.
44:27
Speaker 18: We're doing dismally ourselves, and he's talking about shipping them
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Speaker 18: over to Ukraine.
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Speaker 1: We have nothing to do with.
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Speaker 3: He is hoping everyone forgets about this in the lead
44:36
Speaker 3: up to the election while the cyclones on or whatever.
44:38
Speaker 4: He has to come out.
44:39
Speaker 3: And an address has to say this is not on,
44:45
Speaker 3: we wouldn't do it. Basically, he has to take the
44:47
Speaker 3: Peter Dutton position. Hey, we've showed a bit of the
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Speaker 3: Donald Trump address today. Let me show you another bit. Normally,
44:52
Speaker 3: of course, one of the great things about the American
44:55
Speaker 3: political system is when they get the president in Congress,
44:58
Speaker 3: they all at least respect him or her as their president.
45:02
Speaker 3: But today one of the Democrats kept in dejecting and
45:05
Speaker 3: was booted out.
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Speaker 2: Have a look a forty one point jump.
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Speaker 19: Members are directed to uphold and maintain the quorum in
45:18
Speaker 19: the House and to cease any further disruptions that you're warning.
45:25
Speaker 19: The Chair now directs a sergeant at arms to restore order.
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Speaker 1: Remove this gentleman from the chamber.
45:39
Speaker 3: Yeah, he waved that walking stick around plenty justin it
45:42
Speaker 3: was pretty sad to see things get that ugly in
45:45
Speaker 3: the Congress there.
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Speaker 20: But while you give me that shorts on that, you
45:50
Speaker 20: come on, while you share your thoughts on that, I
45:52
Speaker 20: just want to show you what was happening around about
45:54
Speaker 20: the same time in the Serbian Parliament where they were
45:57
Speaker 20: letting off flares and tea gas.
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Speaker 1: It can always be worse. It can always be worse, mate,
46:06
Speaker 1: look at that, But give me a bra this sort
46:09
Speaker 1: of is this a little faux outrage here? The Trump
46:12
Speaker 1: camp would have been absolutely loving that, the cane waving,
46:16
Speaker 1: and the Democrats would have been loving the cane. Come on,
46:19
Speaker 1: we stand here and we would complain about the theater,
46:23
Speaker 1: but let's let's be brutally honest with each other. We
46:26
Speaker 1: lose core.
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Speaker 3: There's no doubt the Democrats will be looking to see
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Speaker 3: whether they can get the tear gas and everything organized
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Speaker 3: for next time. I've got before, I got to get
46:33
Speaker 3: your thoughts on this up highlighted this time and time
46:35
Speaker 3: again that the hundreds of billions of dollars that the
46:38
Speaker 3: Labor Party is talking about and shunting in to a
46:42
Speaker 3: so called green energy revolution, it's not going anywhere.
46:45
Speaker 4: Here's what they talk about.
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Speaker 7: We have an exciting future going forward in terms of
46:51
Speaker 7: green hydrogen under the Urban Easy Labor government. These jobs
46:55
Speaker 7: will be secure because we'll be leading the global green
46:59
Speaker 7: hydrogen revolution. And what we know is that the green
47:01
Speaker 7: hydrogen sector has an enormous potential in this country. Only
47:06
Speaker 7: Labor has the plan to ensure that Australia is part
47:10
Speaker 7: of and is leading that hydrogen revolution.
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Speaker 4: Look, Liz, the revolution is dead. They're spending billions on it.
47:17
Speaker 3: But in the Hunter, in Queensland and South Australia, they're
47:19
Speaker 3: all falling over.
47:20
Speaker 18: They're absolutely falling through the floor. Every time one of
47:23
Speaker 18: these projects now creates a headline, it's to say it's
47:26
Speaker 18: falling on us, and people say with offshore wind farms,
47:31
Speaker 18: there was one just last week I think it was
47:32
Speaker 18: a Swedish company pulled the plug on yet another one,
47:35
Speaker 18: saying look, I'm not doing this anymore, I'm not backing
47:37
Speaker 18: it anymore. Are we still going to be a renewables
47:42
Speaker 18: powerhouse exporting.
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Speaker 4: Sunday green energy super prower? The well tris The answer
47:49
Speaker 4: is no.
47:50
Speaker 18: But do you think we're going to get a sceric
47:51
Speaker 18: of honesty from this government in the lead up to
47:54
Speaker 18: the election. They are still going to keep making these
47:57
Speaker 18: really empty promises, and anyone who's dumb enough to fall
48:01
Speaker 18: for it is going to get more.
48:02
Speaker 4: At the time, they admitted reality just before we go.
48:05
Speaker 3: If you sometimes wonder whether to call her Meghan or
48:07
Speaker 3: Meghan Markel now we're completely confused to have a look
48:10
Speaker 3: at this.
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Speaker 18: I don't think anyone in the world knows that Megan
48:14
Speaker 18: Mikle has eaten Jack.
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Speaker 4: In the box and loves funny too.
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Speaker 21: That you keep saying Meghan Markele, you know him Sussex.
48:19
Speaker 21: Now you have kids and you go, no, I share
48:22
Speaker 21: my name with my children, Yes, and that feels so.
48:25
Speaker 21: I didn't know how meaningful it would be to me,
48:28
Speaker 21: but it just means so much to go, this is
48:32
Speaker 21: our family name.
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Speaker 3: We're right out of time, but we had to share
48:36
Speaker 3: that justin Edle's you know now it's not Megan Mikel,
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Speaker 3: it's Meghan Sussex.
48:41
Speaker 4: I always thought it was Meghan Sex copa cober Goth
48:45
Speaker 4: or something. Anyway, We'll see you tomorrow night. Here's Peter
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Speaker 4: Kriidlin