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DA CREW PODCAST SEASON 1_ EPISODE #110_HOST LISA HOPKINS (1) · DA CREW Podcast

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Welcome, Welcome to another episode with the Crew podcast. My name is
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Lisa Hopkins, and I would like to welcome you to Trigger Reactions Conquered Podcast.
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Welcome to each and every one of you. Tonight we have an amazing,
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amazing guest. But before we go forward with our guests, I would
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like to go forth with the word of prayer, and after my prayer,
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I will bring my special guests on, Father God in the name of Jesus.
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Lord, I come before you today, just thanking you for another opportunity
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to come before your throne of grace. Lord. I come before you as
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humbly as I know how Lord, during this podcast, I ask that you
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move me out of the way and let your Holy spirit reign. Supreme Lord,
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I thank you for those who are on this podcast, those who have
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stopped by to in Bless every family that's represented. Bless Angela and keep her
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in your care. God Lord, We thank you for this would not be
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possible without her. Lord, I ask that you would just bless us as
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we go forward in this hour of our podcast in Jesus name. Amen.
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Welcome, Welcome, Welcome to triggered Reactions conquered. This is mister Eric Buyers
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of Virginia Beach, Virginia. I would like to welcome him to our platform
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on tonight. Thank you, thank you Lisa for having me up. Okay
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at this right now, I'm gonna read our scriptures for the night. And
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before I read the scriptures, I would like to let you know that our
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topic of the evening is the outlook of life and after the outlook of the
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outlook of life before and after incarceration Jesus, and the reason why we have
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Jesus on the end of it is because of Jesus and him crucified. Our
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scripture tonight is coming from James one and James one, three and four,
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and our next scripture will be coming from Ecclesiastics eleven and one. James one,
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three and four reads as follows, knowing this that the trying of your
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faith worketh patience. Ecclesiastics eleven and one reads as follows, cast thy bread
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upon the waters, for thou shalt find it after many days. And I'm
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going to allow my wonderful guests, mister Eric Buyers to come in his own
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way and share about these two scriptures that he has chosen for this hour.
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Thank you. As I was asked to do this, uh podcast, Uh,
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I thought about some scriptures that I have to do the topic, and
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so I came to James one and three along with four and and I pondered
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on it, saying, but let they thy patients have its perfect works.
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So you know, and my time of being out in the world and also
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being incarcerated, I look back and I see where God had preordained me and
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set me aside for this a time as this. But he had to put
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me through something or either you want to say, I had to go through
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something and so but that said, it took patience, uh, in many
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days of trials that I went through in order to come to where I am
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right now in life. So I always look back in it where it says
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let patience have its perfect works. And definitely God had had had patience with
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me and in these times where I was going through hard hittedness, stiff nekedness,
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just rebellious. Uh. And then I look, I look at where
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I'm at right now, and Ecclesiastic says, cast I bread a punt upon
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the water, or thou shalt find it after many days. And you know,
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living a Christian life, it's it's not a not a it's not a
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sprint, it's a marathon. So I can look back and see where God
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had told me to do things when I was out before I got incarcerated,
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and I, uh was didn't listen, but he knew that I was gonna
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listen sooner or later. So with that said, I cast my my bread
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upuns the waters, and it came back, you know, any days it
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came back. And man, we thank you, praise God for those scriptures,
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because truly, when we have need of Jesus Christ, we have to
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do what we have to do to let him know that he has our attention.
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I was first question to you is can you explain a little bit about
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how your life was before you got incarcerated. Childhood was very good. I
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was raised in the seventies and eighties, so that was a time where discipline
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was prevalent in in the families. And also my my father he was in
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the military, so that went with everything that we was raised to be military
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minded because he definitely put the military tactics on us. But definitely it was
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good time. It might not have seemed good, but I looked back,
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it was. It was a good life, good good raising upbringing to you
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know, as you leave the nest, you get influenced by things outside the
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nest. So when I got into high school, you know, you meet
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people that maybe have more than you or have less than you, but you
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just you're influenced by people. So but that said, I started dabbling,
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dabbling in streets, small time at first, of course, and then it
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got to be overwhelming. Just nothing. There was no bad influence in the
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household, just everything outside the household. You know, it pulled me into
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that street life and I just, I mean waddle in it, as you
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want to say. So, you know, and right before are the years
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prior to getting incarcerated, you know, I was living I almost say I
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was living. I was living good. You know, I had every in
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anything I wanted, did anything I want, go anywhere I wanted, you
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know, but just not doing it the right way. So that was the
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situation before I got locked up. Just in life. Yes, yes,
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I want to say that this is my uncle, y'all, and how he
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became my uncle. When I was stationed in the military. I was actually
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stationed in his town. My dad's wife is his brother, and he has
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two other brothers, and I was kind of uh from nineteen to twenty two,
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I lived in the household with him and his two brothers. And Thanks
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be to God that God allowed me to have a family to be in in
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their family while I was in the military. And I just want to say
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that I thank God that I'm still affiliated with this family. We just had
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a wonderful time this weekend here in California, and I'm I'm just really grateful
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for him this story, and I just really wanted to share that that,
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you know, I know that this young man has been brought up in the
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the right way as a really good family, and to God be the glory
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for what he had to do to get to the point where he's at today.
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So I understand that you had a traumatic experience when you were in prison,
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and can you share that with us? Uh, Let me say this.
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Anybody who goes to prison has a traumatic experience anyone. Prison is not
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for humans. It's add normal all the way around the board. So where
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do you want to start off with the fastest of Okay, let's talk about
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let's not talk about so much the bad stuff. Let's talk about the benefits
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that prison has provided for you. Well okay, uh, well, yeah,
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I can there are benefits going to prison. But you cannot just talk
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about the benefits without talking about a little bit of the bad stuff, because
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okay, bad stuff which makes what makes you realize, hey, there's something
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better. Yeah, this is the wrong way to go. So, you
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know, just like being incarcerated, where you're told what to do when to
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do it, you have very limited freedom, if you want to call it
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freedom. The freedom is is uh mentally and very close corner. You know,
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you have very little space. So you know, when you learn how
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to deal with prison life, you definitely gonna you're gonna want to not stay
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there. Right now, I have to say that I did that I did.
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To say that I didn't have good times in prison would be uh,
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would be a lie, because I had some good times in prison. Now
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do I want to be there. No, but you make the best of
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what you were you at you know, right that said, m okay,
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so or what thing? What type of things did you come up against while
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you were locked up? Well, as I realized being out out here now
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that the world outside world has no clue, no clue of in cost erasing
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what details. For one, everything is segregated, mhm thing but white,
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Chinese, African, American, African dirty white boys, white boys, gays,
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lesbians, everything is segregated. So you know, you talk to people
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on the outside and they just don't understand. But when you go to prison,
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you have to be or the or the protocols to be with your own
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group. Okay. So with that said, it's like I said, you
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got blacks, but you got different sections of the blacks. You got Black
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Americans, then you got Africans. The Africans don't really like the Black Americans.
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But at the same time you got Haitian Jamaican. All these are different
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parts of blacks, right, so all those are separate, your Haitian,
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uh Jamaicans, all these people are separate Black community. You know what I'm
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saying. That's not that's not the saying dealing with even the whites, because
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then you got white boys, you got dirty white boys. Then you know,
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you got uh skinheads, and then you got the Mexicans, then you
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got the the you know, the then you fall in with the groups,
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the gangs. So you know, it's definitely politics, what I mean,
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it's politics. But with that all that said, it's a necessary evil because
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you're dealing with very limited space. Is it right? Is it right?
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You can argue it is, you can argue it ain't. But whenever you
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sit down to yourself and you got a lot of time to think, you
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realize, look, I don't want to be here. You know, this
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is not the place for me. Right. So did God speak to you
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while you were there? What amazing things that God convey to you? Oh?
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Man, every day God would speak to me, and he would say,
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no, he didn't. But just like in the Book of Tennesses where
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Adam and Eve walked in the garden with God, he actually walks with you
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and talks with you today. It's not like, oh, that's just the
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Bible. He walks and talk with you. You know, I got so
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many stories of how God would talk to me or he would either you know,
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teach me what to do what not to do. Like I said,
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I'm giving for example, I got mint examples. But I was when I
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first got in. I was had usher for four years and the church up
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in West Virginia gilmer uh meet him high. So one day I was at
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I was setting up for church and church service was going on, and God
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I heard Claire as I'm talking right here to you today A gentleman came in
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the door. And when he came in the door, on him because I
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like, I look like I like look like that. I mean, I
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felt like. So the day went on and I didn't speak to this gentleman.
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I didn't approach him about being an usher or nothing. So something I
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guess. A couple of days went past, and it came up again.
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It came to the next another Sunday, and it got he the gentleman came
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in again, and so I still didn't speak to him. So when I
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got back to myself, God spoke to me. He said, you can't
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tell me who'd pick. I mean, yeah, he did, definitely,
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And I felt and I felt a matter of fact, the scriptor he used
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to take the plank out of your own eye, I'm like and I felt
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it deep in my spirit. I like, God, I get me.
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So I knew he was talking to me about this gentleman. So when I
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went back the next Sunday, I spoke to him and he he was he
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was already got it, already worked on his heart. He he came in
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right away after he wanted to be a usher. He said, yeah,
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man, definitely, So he became an usher. So awesome. So I'm
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saying the the the lesson I got is you don't know what God has are
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doing someone else's you know, you whenever he tells you to do something,
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he has already mapped it out. Yes, yes, absolutely. And then
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when he when he told me that, and it hurt me to my heart
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when he showed me like take the plank out of your own I I told
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you to go get this gentleman, you know. And and it definitely like
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really opened my eyes about how to judge people because you you can't. You
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can judge, don't get wrong. You can judge people are righteous, judgment,
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but you can't can say, oh he ain't God don't want him because
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you don't know, because yeah, you're not right. So during during that
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experience, did you feel like you was sort of like in trouble with God.
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Uh, definitely. I felt ashamed. I felt I felt ashamed,
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you know. I felt like, man, you know, I feel like
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disappointed guy, which I I did because he taught me to do something that
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I didn't do it, and then he had to show me like, hey,
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man, didn't I tell you go get this gentleman? And so I'd
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say as soon as I said something to him, he was like, yeah,
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I want I want to. I want to I want to join you
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know, I want to be usher so and he so. You can you
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recall another another time or another type of way that God chastened you while you
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were there, many many times, many times. I'm gonna tell you this
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one time, Okay, when I left the street, I had a seventy
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eight Ford Bronco. I don't know if anyone knows that is. And it's
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a big wide body Bronco. I had it on, had it lifted,
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had I had like a big four hundred in it, and he was I
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loved it thirty seven. I loved this truck. So I would call home
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maybe like every other month, and I tell I asked, my dad started
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up, you start the truck up? And he's like, yeah, I
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started the truck up. You know you're going through it. Yeah, I
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started up. So months came past and I couldn't. I called home and
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I couldn't get my dad one time, so my daughter answered the phone and
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I said, uh so, I asked, I said to that, UH
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said, granddad started truck up. Like huh, I said, granddadd started
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trucker. He said that truck been going for like three months, right,
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I said, oh what? And I then I was hurt that my dad
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didn't tend with this. But my but the God said to me, yeah,
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I got rid of that truck because you loved that truck more than me.
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Thank you. Go ahead, He said, you're putting that truck above
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me, and nothing comes above me. He told me that. When he
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told me that, I hurt. My soul hurt. I thought, like,
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oh my goodness, it was soul, really it really, it really
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hurt me, like man, but I was that's what I was doing,
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you know, like you know, so the truck was gone even and I
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didn't I never knew it until like three months later. Wow, that was
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quite an experience. And sometimes it takes for things to happen like that,
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so we can know that our God is a jealous god and he will have
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nothing or nobody to be served before him. Definitely. Moving right along,
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I want to ask you, uh, if you could share with us about
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the federal justice system. What did you learn about out the federal judge the
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system while you were there. The federal justice system is corrupt, as we
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all know. Now. With that said, does God use it? Yes,
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he does use it. God used it just like he used the the
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Ema rights and Malakites. Whenever the Israelites would act up, he would use
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them to punish him. So God does use the federal system us looking to
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it, looking at it as in the flesh. Definitely, the federal system
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is corrupt. There's no justice in the federal system. But as you know,
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the black situation, the white situation, of the money situation, it
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takes a lot of money to get justice in the federal system. In if
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that said, you have to have you have to be basically white to get
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justice and have a lot of money. At the same time, I met
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people met families that are in are We're in prison wrongfully. I'm talking about
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whole families, mom, dad, brothers, all in prison for wrong wrongfully
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convicted and not just black, but I've met whole white families in prison wrongfully
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convicted. So you know, it's definitely not somewhere you want to be,
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but definitely it's there's no justice in the federal system. Okay, so you
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were you were convicted, Uh, you were convicted of. Uh what would
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would you share with the that is what your time was. Yeah. I
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was convicted of seven charges of conspiracy, crack cocaine, cocaine, marijuana,
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a registered non registered machine gun, uh, and one or two more charges
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I was only found guilty of. There was eight charges altogether. I was
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only found guilty of seven of them. And how did you feel when they
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sentence you to three hundred and sixty months equal to thirty years? How did
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how did that make you feel? Uh? When I started when he when
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she she told me what it was, and I started adding it up and
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I got to one twenty, I said one twenty twice. I said,
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Oh, Mark, gouldn't it? I said, I asked my my lawyer,
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I said, what, I didn't kill nobody? You know what is?
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What is she? What did they do it? So he looked at
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me like no, and I had to paid lawyer it wasn't no public offense.
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I paid this lawyer and he just looked at me because they was trying
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to get me light. But they couldn't, well, they couldn't legitly because
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it's my it was my first defense ever, right, so they they gave
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me thirty years. I am with that. Said, the judge gave me.
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I didn't use drugs because you know, I don't smoke, drink or
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do nothing. I don't. I never did. And when she found out
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how she she gave me more time for that, I'm like, but definitely,
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uh, definitely was something. Okay, So you say you was convicted,
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Uh, I mean you were sitting to thirty years. How much time
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did you actually do? Listen? Nineteen years, eight eight months? All
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that was fighting. I I fought the whole way with the trial, which
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people don't go to trial and FADS is less than less than one percent go
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to trial. And I went to trial, appeal, Uh, Supreme Court.
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I'd have been to Supreme Court like four times. I'm gonna say five
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times Jesus, you know, back and forth to the lower court. And
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what what would you say if you if you had a talk to somebody that's
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that's in prison right now, what would you suggest to them that they need
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to do to maintain until they get released. You gotta have Jesus first and
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foremost, because if you don't, the bad influence will eat you up.
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Because in prison there are so much things that are bad the influence you that
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can influence you. You have to have Jesus. You have to have I'm
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the times when I was and I did six years and in depend and federal
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in high security. It was at one point at the end of that six
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years, you know, then I came down. But at the end of
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sixty years, I was literally going crazy mentally. That was Jesus, I
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was going crazy. I'm wow, because you just you're like a hamster on
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a wheel because people don't leave out. You know, people got thirty life,
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they got so much time that they're not going anywhere, right see these
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people for decades and they're doing the same thing every day at the same time.
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Wow, So you know, and and it's just you know, that
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can be mind boggling, you know. And then you got with that all
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that said, you got, like I just said earlier, you got segregation.
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So you you sometimes, as you know, you can't sit where you
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want, you want to sit, you gotta sit where your people are,
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your people are, you know, you know, And I've seen people get
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stabbed. I've seen race riots just over a seat in the tea room,
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you know. And I'm and you might say, what the chieving room.
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I've seen people get destroyed in the chiving room for turning the TV. Like,
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yes, there, I said, turn the TV. Sitting in people's
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seats that you don't supposed to sit in. But you know, this is
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prison, that's prison culture. You gotta follow the protocol to a certain extent.
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You know. Well, I am very very grateful that you was able
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to maintain and to be able to do what you needed to do to get
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out. And I'm grateful that you are out doing what you're doing today on
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a daily basis. What if you could share with us what a day in
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the military from morning tonight? What was your your daylight in prison? Yes?
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Yeah, okay, Well I'm a I'm rat. So I stay in
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the gym all day. Uh, the gym in the law libraries is my
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two main areas. So when I get up, I get up about four
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thirty in the morning, right after count because counts at four o'clock four thirty
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one in the two matters. Sometimes they run late. I get up and
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I start my day. I eat, read scripture, and then I wait
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for count to clear, So count years in federal prison at six supposedly every
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day, and when they close, when they clear at six, you can
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go down to the yard. And that's why I spend most of my time
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in the morning out in the yard, working out and either you know,
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just meditating through scripture throughout the day. But I go out to the yard
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stay out there from like six eleven thirty because you know, either you can
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go out, you can go out and walk the yard, do exercises.
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The yard is where most people can get their leisure time. So a lot
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of things going on in the yard, a lot of there's so many things
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going on in the yard. So that's why I spend most of my morning,
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no not even sending. My mornings are on the yard. Then after
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lunch, I right go to the law library and reading cases, keeping up
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on the new laws and new cases, helping people as as also you know,
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putting my stuff in with that. With that said, you know,
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and that is from six to recall recalls that three thirty. Yeah, so
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then when that's when I get to leave the law library, I could come
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back and that's that's count again. Four o'clock, four o'clock count everywhere else
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federal prisons, four o'clock count, four o'clock count is uh is dinner time.
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So after that most of the times go eat dinner, relaxed. I
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might go back out to the yard, but it's just to be the socialized
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you know. Yeah, a couple of guys you know that's that I know
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through prison socialized them. Then after that i'd be probably about five six o'clock
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headed back, headed back to the to the building to get ready to go
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to bed because lock, I mean, because you they call recall at seven
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thirty. So everybody, all right, so you might want to get back
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at six thirty to beat the rush for the shower because you gotta take a
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shower and all that, and it's kicking in the block, you know,
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whatever dude might have. We might be even making a big dinner or either
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someone's birthday or just playing cards or something like that before you go to play
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down. Okay, all right, thank you for sharing that with us.
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Our time is running, so I am going to ask the ultimate ultimate question.
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And this is a question that that will help those who may be out
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in the world doing all types of everything to the degree of possibly landing their
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selves in prison. And this main message is for the dope dealers. So
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what would you what if you could share a message with people that are still
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uh setting dope and doing drugs and all that kind of stuff, what would
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the message be At this point in time, it's, uh, you need
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to stop, you know, Uh, it's over with. There's many other
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things that it would take you out of your current financial struggle at in twenty
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twenty three. Then then then selling drugs or even dealing with drugs because I
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can say it's either gonna get killed or in in prison and either one you
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know you you're not you can't do nothing with it. So definitely avenue is
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to stop, you know, stop with the drugs selling even in the drug
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use, stop with that too, because like I said, I stay in
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the gym, keep your temple as clean as possible so you can think and
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have in reason. Uh, and also you know, fellowship with God because
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he definitely he that wants you your temple at abused. But definitely this point
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in time, there's different avenues to make money and just make as much or
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even more, and then you don't have to you don't have to risk being
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locked up or you're even killed. A man that definitely is it's a plus.
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Well, here we are at the end of the road on today.
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I thank you so much mister Eric Buyers for being a part of the Crew
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podcast on Trigger Reactions Conquered with Lisa Hopkins. And to each and every one
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of you under the sound of my voice, I thank you for tuning in
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with us on today and being a part of this wonderful podcast. And and
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I would like to thank you for just supporting mister Eric Buyers as he has
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shared a portion of his life with us. We also want to give God
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praise for his life and for the fact that he has opened up his understanding
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I need to what he is supposed to be doing and being the man that
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the Lord has amazingly provided him to be today. Do you have any last
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words that you would like to say, mister Buyers. Yeah, I just
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thank uh Lisa for having me uh uh. Definitely. You know life is
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short and you have to live it also to the foolish at the same time,
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and you can do all that in Christ Jesusluyah God UH has to be
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a part of your life and he wants you. He wants you to be
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uh fellowship with him, definitely, and it's amazing. He's amazing. God
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is definitely amazing and he will amaze you. Yeah. Amen, Okay,
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thank you, thank you, thank you Uncle, I love you. Thank
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you for sharing, thank you for your transparency, and just thank you for
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being a willing vessel to speak up for the things of God. God bless
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you all and God speed. Are amen. Welcome to Trigure Reactions with Lisa
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Hopkins, where we