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Reaction to the NBA offseason & Our Top 20 players in the NBA right now! · The So-Called Sports Analysts

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  Five four three two one. Welcome, Welcome, Welcome, Welcome back to
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  another episode, episode number fifty three of the so called Sports Analyst. Man,
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  it feels like a while, Josh Man, how you doing's hold on,
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  I'll put the twitch on. No, no, no, all right,
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  Well I'm feeling all right. Man. You know, y'all don't know
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  if y'all notice anything different, But your boy took the beard off. Bro,
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  the beard is gone. After three years. We're going straight go to
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  Zoltar. Look, you already know you know what's going on, all right,
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  Yes, we just you know what. We apologize. We've been gone
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  for a week. A lot has happened. Just life caught up with us
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  last week. But it will never happen again, I think. So we're
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  about to get into this pod. But I got a rent real quick.
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  I got a rental quick. Let's rant. It's been a while. Let's
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  rant Team USA. We're in the Golden era. We're not a soccer podcast,
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  but we're gonna talk a little soccer for this, for this little bit
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  right here. We're in the golden era of US men's soccer, with the
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  most players playing in the in the top clubs in Europe and we don't even
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  get out of the group stage after hosting. I understand. I understand that
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  we that we had bad refs. There was bad refs in both games we
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  played, especially in the Yuguay game. But for us to not make it
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  out of the group stage is it's horrific. Dog. We need to get
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  Greg Berhalter out of there. You know what I proposed, We need to
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  stop making soccer so damn expensive in the United States. We need to start.
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  You know why we got all these rich, privileged kids who got no
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  heart playing this game when if we're looking at every other country, soccer is
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  free. They just pull up and try out. There's been people to come
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  from the slums like Christiano Ronaldo, even Lionel Messi. They were not rich
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  growing up, but you know what they had that all get them and look
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  at them. They are two great players to ever live. You know,
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  when you do when you to make soccer accessible, put it in the hood.
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  We have to do that because if we look at all our other leagues,
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  basketball, football, they're easily accessible sports for people that don't have the
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  funds to pay for the bigger travel teams and stuff like that. But they
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  can still make it then we need to do that for soccer and will win
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  the World Cup guaranteed. Imagine, just imagine the team we would have if
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  it was more accessible. Okay, okay, I'm kind of seeing the vision.
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  But basketball, it's it's not that accessible too. It's kind of expensive
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  sales. Football, and you still have you still have people dominating. I
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  think just a lot of people don't like soccer in America. I think that's
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  what it really is. Yeah, but if you think about it, how
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  many Okay, and in football, there's like where we live, there's leagues
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  everywhere. People just pull up and play. They probably play pay maybe one
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  hundred bucks. But the people that I hear talk about soccer, they're traveling
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  to Dallas. They're paying one thousand dollars just to They're paying one thousand dollars
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  just to join a club. They're paying for all these coaches just for their
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  kids to quit junior year or high school. Like, it'll make no sense.
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  There's a reason why we're not as good as compared to other leagues.
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  I understand we have more dominant sports in America, but to think that if
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  it wasn't more accessible, we wouldn't be up there. I don't believe that,
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  and we we dominate every sport as man in the male division, we
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  dominate almost every sport in the world. Yeah, besides soccer. That it's
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  true, it's true. I think you're gonna be the change to that.
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  You need to be the head coach. That's the next that's the next step
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  right there, you even become the head coach. That's what it is.
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  No, but all right, yeah, no, we're gonna We're not gonna
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  read all of those comments there. But yeah, before we start, you
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  you share that as well. We also have a discord you could find that
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  under the so called sports analyst. But I know you had a rant here,
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  but let's go ahead and get straight into this. So alright, the
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  last time we talked it was right before the NBA Draft, But now we're
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  gonna list the lottery picks right here, and then how you're feeling from them.
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  So first pick to the Hawks, Zachary resa Che, second pick Alex
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  Zar to the Wizards, third pick Reed Shepherd to the Rockets. You're San
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  Antonio Spurs with the fourth pick Stefan Castle, fifth pick Ron Holland to the
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  Pistons, sixth pick to John Saloon to the Hornets, seventh pick to the
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  Blazers, Donovan Klingen, Rob Dillingham to the Spurs number eight but got traded
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  to the Wolves. Then you have Zach Edy your guy to the Grizzlies.
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  Hell don't do not save my guy, and then this hair guy. Then
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  we have the tenth pick Cody Williams going to the Jazz and the eleventh overall
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  pick aka the Future Star, the Future Great Midus Bozzellis going to the Bulls,
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  twelfth pick nicoleo Topicch going to the thunder, thirteenth pick Devin Carter to
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  the Kings, and then the fourteenth pick which goes to the Blazers, Bub
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  Carrington. That finishes out the lottery. So what was your biggest takeaway from
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  this lottery? Right here? Which one is the one that you like the
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  most and not like? Well, the pick I like the most is our
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  pick the San Antonio Spurs pick Stefan Castle, and that's not even being biased.
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  I just do think he has probably the best chance in this draft to
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  be the best player and to be the best player in this year's draft,
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  year one. I'm just gonna say that because he's going into a situation where
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  he's his strengths are gonna be used immediately, especially on the defensive end,
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  where he's a defensive he's already an on ball specialist, so he'll be able
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  to guard up, especially being six seven and six nine wingspan, guarding against
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  smaller guards. I think he'll he'll have a good a good ease into the
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  league doing that. But plus even the way that he plays offensively, with
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  the passing ability and just how he was able to play at Yukon, he's
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  best pro ready fit for the NBA now because the system they run over there
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  at Yukon, especially playing with the guy like Donovan Klingen, where he was
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  feeding him the ball all the time and throwing up lobs. He's gonna have
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  that same role with Winby, especially now the news that we're going to talk
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  about later bringing in Chris Paul, He's gonna learn a lot real quick about
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  the NBA, and I'm most excited for him. The pick that I like
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  the least, I'd probably say, we already know, we already know Zach
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  Edi. Zach Edy is not that guy. He's not that guy, and
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  I will I will say this until he proves me wrong. He is not
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  that guy. Bro Bro has no footwork, has two moves going to his
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  left hand. That's all he does. That's not gonna work in the NBA.
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  I need a little bit more. And they say he's a good defensive
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  player. He didn't have to play guys that could, that could do every
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  move in the book, night out and night out. So we're gonna see
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  what happened there. The biggest thing is, oh, he he progressed every
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  year in college. Well, damn, you played four years. I hope
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  he would progress every year in college on a contending squad. Yeah, on
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  a contending squad, I would hope. So you're not wasting your time.
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  So that's probably the least. And if I'm gonna give another ah, I
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  must say maybe I hate to say it. No, I don't hate to
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  say. I think Rob Dillingham getting trade to the Timberwolves is really good for
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  the Timberwolves. I'm not gonna say he's gonna be immediately an igniter for this
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  team coming off the bench, or if he's gonna play right next to Anthony
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  Edwards, but it gives them someone else to rely upon to handle the rock
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  offensively because he could. He's a good passer, he's a good shooter,
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  he's a good offensive player. Defense, he lacks a lot due to size,
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  But for them, they don't need him to be great because they already
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  have enough good defenders on that team. So he's just being able to play
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  a role and eats his way in. And for us, that's just more
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  trade package material for us with those two first round picks that we brought in
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  unprotected in seven years. Oh, let's talk about that real quick. Yeah
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  traded, let's talk we traded that. There's only less than only half of
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  the NBA franchises have a player, have one player that's been there for seven
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  years. So twenty thirty one, it's seven years away, So a lot
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  could change in that time with that draft pick if we don't trade it.
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  Yeah, yeah, And you don't know, even if you have Anthony Edwards,
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  you don't know if Kat's going to be good Rudy Gobert. I'm pretty
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  sure he's going to be retired, so maybe Anthony Edwards he's gone, so
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  it's an unprotected pick that could be good. But my favorite pick right here,
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  Josh, what is one thing that we always say on this podcast every
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  single time we record? What is something we always say? Chitt Holmgren sucks.
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  Okay, other than that, what else do we say? This is
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  a bias podcast. My favorite Damnatum's overrated. Okay, Okay, we're gonna
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  talk about that a little bit later too. But my favorite pick here has
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  to be Modus Bozellis. And yes, I know this is a bias pick
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  right here, but I do not give a damn Modus Bozellis. If it
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  wasn't for him having a bad shooting slump in the G League Ignite, then
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  he would have easily been the consensus number one or number two overall pick.
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  He just had a bad year and he had an ankle injury, but those
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  last twenty six twenty five games that he played, he definitely showed why he
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  was there. And I even said I even said before the draft, I
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  said he could be a better version of Andrew Wiggins, and we that's exactly
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  something we need on our team, and going for somebody that's younger. But
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  my least favorite pick right here. I'm not gonna lie. I I really,
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  I really don't like Ron Holland here to the Pistons. I know there's
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  a bunch of upside here. I know there's a bunch of upside here on
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  this pick, but I just feel like he's just athletic wing, he wing.
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  He's gonna be somebody that's like a Derek Jones junior. He's really somebody
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  that struggles with the ball. I know there's Kate Cunningham there, but I
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  don't even want to talk about Zach Edy. Zach Edy. We we were
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  not howling him at all. But another pick. I know, I know
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  you'll probably agree with me on this. Nicola Topitz to the Thunder. This
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  is a great pick right here. So for you guys who don't know Nicola
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  topicch he was supposed to be a top five pick, if I'm not mistaken,
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  right, Josh, Yeah, before before the injury. Yeah, before
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  the injury. But he got hurt a little bit later on, so he
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  fell all the way to the thunder. So my my question to you is
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  later on in the draft, or is there any sneaky good picks within this
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  lottery or later on that you really like from a team. Well, let's
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  talk about a little bit about that Nikola Topich pick real quick. I think
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  that. And by the way, I don't think Chitt Holmgren sucks. I
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  just don't think he's as good as it or even in the same planet or
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  stratosphere. Just saying that. But he's a good player in the NBA,
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  good fifth option, you know it just it just works that way. But
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  for for the Thunder bringing in a Nicola Topich, what they can do is
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  sit him out a year like they did with chet Holmgren, and let him
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  develop. Let him learn inside of a NBA system, go to practice,
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  learn how to watch some film, learn the travel regimen, learn all of
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  it. While taking a year off. He's basically getting red shirted to learn
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  and then come in and immediately make an impact. That's gonna be a big
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  pick for them down the line, especially going to a team that doesn't need
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  any more help, especially after who they we'll get to in a minute.
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  The moves that they did make in this free agency. This adds another scary
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  element to their team going into next season, the next next season, not
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  this season coming up, but the season after, because you'll have a guy
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  ready to come off the bench and lead the second unit. When when Shae
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  comes off the court, it's gonna be scary. They'll colmost to be thunder
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  for years to come. But if we're gonna talk about a pick that I
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  that I like, we gotta talk about my boy, Jared McCain. We
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  all know those two guys that got drafted next to each other, Jared McCain
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  adultson connect. But we'll start with Jared McCain for all y'all old heads that
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  don't like what he do. Y'all don't know what he do. Let me
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  tell y'all, y'all don't know what he do. That boy is a scorer.
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  He's a shooter. Yeah, he's a sharp shooter. Dog is gonna
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  knock down shots. Trust he may not light up, he may not ever
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  grow into an All Star player. Just do the size and defensive ability may
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  lack a little bit, but bros and grinder dude shoots the lights out,
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  especially stop Fondo. Hey, go ahead, go bro, You're you're the
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  one with the mind. You're the one with the mind. Here, No
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  but but if there's there's a bunch of times within this first collegian season at
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  Duke where he really popped off, especially having two thirty point games both in
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  the in the March Madness, and especially a couple other games where he went
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  where he dropped twenty seven, hit a couple of threes, had double doubles
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  with the assist. Bro is a baller. He's never been bad at basketball
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  one time in his entire basketball career, getting back to high school. So
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  I have a lot of expectations for Homie. I think he's gonna do really
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  good on the especially in the Philade W seventy six ers system, having to
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  play and learning from Tyrese Maxi also is gonna go a long way. I
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  understand that there's I understand Tyre's Maxie is still growing into his own, but
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  he stepped up a lot this year. And then having someone to like Jared
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  McCain after you, that's gonna be. That's gonna be a good mix of
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  players. And then for the Los Angeles Lakers, Daltons, and connect He's
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  a dog, I think Bro'. I think bro is gonna be the still
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  of the draft. And he'll let me tell you why. Okay, he's
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  twenty three years old. He has a lot of He's gonna have the same
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  intro to the league that Kyle Kuzma had when he first came out because he
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  was already an older player, already developed. You don't gotta teach him a
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  lot. But Dalton Connect offensively is just what Braun and this Lakers team needed.
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  A guy that can create his own can shoot from anywhere on the court,
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  and it's just a baller offensively. Defensively, there's a lot to learn.
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  He has a lot to develop defensively, but I do think he has
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  a size to do it. I don't know about athletically, but offensively,
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  he can really get his and I think he reminds me a lot of I
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  know it's not gonna be very popular, but like a Joe Ingles, Joe
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  Ingles when he was on the Jazz for starting out, that's a good comparison
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  right there. That's a guy that could really get his I think Dalton Connect
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  can bring that to the Lakers. Yeah. No, I feel like this
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  is something the Lakers they didn't need right here. But this was just a
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  screaming value where it's like, no, you have to take him because he
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  was consistent, consensus top top ten, one of the best shooters in the
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  draft. Behind you could say Jared McCain, Reids, Shepherd, whoever your
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  choice was. But this guy, he's a marksman, and I think he
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  kind of reminds me, in my opinion, of like an Austin Reeves.
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  I'm not gonna lie just a slightly bigger Austin Reeves, just somebody who's just
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  a baller offensively. And I know, again it's something they didn't didn't need,
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  but it's always great to have because this is an offensive league right here.
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  But I think for me, I think I think this isn't gonna move
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  the needle for the Lakers here. I know we're gonna talk about it in
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  a second, we keep hinting at it. But this other Lakers pick,
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  which we're gonna have to get into. With the fifty fifth overall pick,
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  the Lakers, they selected Bronnie James here, and it might have been a
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  little bit of tampering where Rich Paul was saying, hey, don't draft him,
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  or he's gonna go to Australia, and so it did end up working.
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  So Bronnie he is official Laker first father son duo. So first I
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  want to ask you, is this fair what Lebron, Rich, Paul and
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  Bronnie did across the NBA? Do you think this is fair? They're just
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  doing what I would have done if I was a dad. They're just doing
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  what I would have done, Like, I don't think And anyone that's acting
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  surprised, how are you surprised? This was gonna happen no matter what.
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  Someone was either gonna use Bronnie as trade bait or someone was gonna Yeah,
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  Ronnie was gonna end up with lebron no matter what happened within this scenario,
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  and it just so happened. They forced him to go to Los Angeles,
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  and honestly, I can't be mad at it. There, you make a
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  pick like Dalton Connecting the first round, knowing that you don't have to develop
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  him, he's already a ready made player, especially at pick seventeen. You
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  draft that guy, it gives you, that gives you the option to draft
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  the developmental project in round two, and they did exactly that with Bronnie James.
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  Bronnie James has the floor already. I think he he's gonna be good
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  defensively. He already is and passing why is Offensively he's gonna be good.
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  The offensive game is what really has to develop for him, because and I
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  think we're better to learn than right there in the mix, right there next
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  to the greatest player of all time, who's just so happens to be your
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  dad, right next to an Anthony Davis, right next to even an Austin
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  Reeves, who's really good Offensively, you can learn a lot from these guys.
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  And they're not gonna They're not gonna let Brownie fail. If he does
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  fail, yeah, so be it. But I don't think that's not gonna
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  happen. I don't see that happening. He's putting put in a situation where
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  he can truly grow. Yeah, No, he definitely is. And as
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  far as because I know there was a bunch of slack, as far as
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  in the media or on Twitter, as far as people saying, oh,
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  well, they shouldn't be allowed to do this, I'm sorry. If there's
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  any person that is allowed to do this, it's gonna be you're hiring players.
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  It's gonna be a Lebron James, if Michael Jordan, if his sons
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  made it, they would have done it too. Same thing with Kobe or
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  say, if Steph Curry he's still in the league, whenever, they're still
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  gonna do it. And this happens all the time in front offices with other
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  players. Not even to mention Giannis's brothers. It's the Nasais and then what
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  is it, Alex Alex, Yeah, yeah, they're on the Bucks too,
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  So this always happens. It just it happened to be the greatest player's
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  son. And I know you didn't mention this, but there's gonna be a
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  bunch of pressure on Brownie. There's gonna be a lot immediately, not necessarily
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  that he needs to be somebody who averages twenty out the gate, but if
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  he's not a solid role player, there's gonna be a bunch there's gonna be
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  a bunch of slack on him. As far as White, the Lakers drafts
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  him, this because Lebron whatever whatever, I think best case scenario here,
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  because you were kind of hinting, hinting at it. I feel like he
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  could be like a Derek White that kind of moment, Marcus Smart, I
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  was thinking abound Marcus Smart mole, Yeah, yeah, something like that.
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  Then I think that silling for me is Marcus Smart. Maybe he could go
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  higher than that, and if he does, so be it. But I
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  don't expect a lot from Brownie James to be like completely honest. But being
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  around the Derek White and Marcus Smart mold it's kind of a really good player
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  in the NBA. Yeah, And I'll say this, it's better. It's
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  better to be a defensive player with no offense and an offensive player with no
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  defense, because you could learn the offensive skills. You could learn that being
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  around great offensive players defense as much as you could learn it. That's more
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  of just a knack. That's just more of if you have it, you
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  have it. If you don't, you don't. Kind of like stone when
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  we play basketball. Anyways, Anyways, I didn't get to throw a shot
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  at stall right there. But okay, overall in this draft, Josh,
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  who won this draft? Who won this draft? Overall? Who was the
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  biggest loser? Who won this draft? That's I guess we kind of have
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  to go with the thunder. The thunder getting Nicolo Topitch I picked twelve.
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  I want to say us, I think we had a really good draft.
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  Who we look into the second round? Also, Yeah, but if we're
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  gonna say solely of what we know for sure. I think that Thunder did
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  win this draft getting Nikolo Toepitch I picked twelve. If he stays healthy after
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  taking this year off, I do think it will be the best one of
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  the best picks in this entire draft. Who who kind of sold it for
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  me? I don't know. I can't really, I can't really tell you
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  because I don't. I don't hope ill on any one of these players because
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  I really don't. We haven't given them a chance to even prove who they
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  are. Yeah, so I can't really give you an answer on that.
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  Yeah. No, I get you. I get you. I feel like
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  the winner. This is gonna be the most cliche answer, but I'm gonna
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  say the Wizards here because Alex saw him fall into the second overall pick.
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  I just feel like that's just he was projected number one late all this year
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  and he has I will say this, out of anybody in this draft,
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  he has the highest floor because he's already a good to great defensive player.
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  So as long as he's that, you could have him. Wait what I
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  would say? Donovan Klingon also for a lot of the same reasons. Yeah,
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  I just feel like offensively, he provides a little bit more than Donovan
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  Klingon already, if that makes sense. Yeah. So then one last thing
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  here, who's your favorite favorite guy in the draft? Favorite guy? Just
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  by including bias and everything, who's your favorite who's gonna be your favorite guy
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  in the draft? Stefan Castle or Jared McCain. Bro it's one of the
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  two. Stefan Castle because he's a spur. But also I do think he's
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  gonna be I think he's gonna win Rookie of the Year going next season.
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  I really, I'll put that out there right now. We will win Rookie
• 22:03
  of the Year and we will have back to back Rookie of the years starting
• 22:07
  a guyas I'm calling it, I'm calling you right here, right now,
• 22:11
  learning behind CP three, he's gonna he's gonna be the best on ball defender
• 22:15
  in this entire draft. And plus he's also gonna develop offensively into a demon.
• 22:21
  Trust me when I say it, Okay, I don't know. Okay,
• 22:26
  I kind of want to get in on this bet here as far as
• 22:27
  with my guy minus Buzzellis, but I want to I want there to be
• 22:32
  a caveat here. If you're fine with it. Okay, if zach Lavine
• 22:36
  is traded, let's bet a dub on it a friendly dub friendly, friendly
• 22:41
  dove. Do a jersey. Let's just do a jersey jersey. Okay,
• 22:45
  Jersey for Jersey, Castle for Bozellis. Yeah. If if Castle wins,
• 22:52
  you buy me a Castle jersey. Ifzellis wins, I buy you a Boozellis
• 22:56
  jersey. Did you did you want to do? As far as overall odds
• 23:00
  at the or not odds ranking at the end, because say, if they
• 23:03
  both don't win it, yeah, yeah, we can do that. Okay,
• 23:08
  whoever has, whoever's higher in the rookie of the kay, okay,
• 23:11
  cool. I really do believe Stefan Castle is gonna win it. Bro,
• 23:15
  I really do think he's gonna develop into something nice. Bro, people are
• 23:18
  people, aren't sleep. I definitely do think he's a nice player. He's
• 23:22
  somebody who just lacks I wouldn't say lax offensive skills, just as far as
• 23:27
  becoming a knockdown shooter. That's what it is. And my biggest once that
• 23:33
  three develops, oh dude, it's gonna be insane. Yeah, no,
• 23:36
  it'll be It'll be crazy. And that's what I'm saying, if zach Levine's
• 23:40
  traded, If Zach Levin's traded, then this is gonna be entirely young Bulls
• 23:45
  roster, which we're gonna get into a second and he'll have the full keys
• 23:48
  to it. But is there anything else that you want to talk about with
• 23:52
  this draft before we get into think this is the least exciting number one overall
• 23:56
  pick in a while. Yes, I I do think so, becauuse when
• 24:02
  they tried to Zachary Resache, I was like, oh, okay, you
• 24:06
  know, like yeah, like like good defender, great off ball player,
• 24:11
  can get to the rim. Doesn't do anything really exciting for me. It
• 24:15
  just he's this. We may be wrong about this draft hindsight. Ten years
• 24:21
  down the line, they may be, they may take over the league,
• 24:23
  they may be a historic draft, But right now there's just that feeling just
• 24:27
  isn't there. There's no one that's popping out like super out that's gonna be
• 24:32
  like, oh, that guy is gonna be a superstar as of right now.
• 24:34
  Well, it's kind of hard when these last few first overall picks have
• 24:38
  been damn good. It's been Zion, Anthony Edwards, cade Cunningham. Then
• 24:45
  you have those twenty twenty three. Oh, it was Wimby of course,
• 24:49
  and then I'm missing wait no, oh, no, I'm missing Paulo.
• 24:52
  So it was Polo has been great. Yeah, yeah, Paulo, he's
• 24:56
  been great. He's gonna he was already an All Star. So all of
• 25:00
  these guys have been All Star. No disrespect to Zachary Riesache, but I
• 25:07
  if he becomes an All Star, it's like, okay, well that's a
• 25:10
  little bit more stise draft. None of these guys are drafted. I think
• 25:12
  the top three picks don't even make it to the top five. Yeah,
• 25:17
  if Bailey Cooper Flag, those would easily be right there, the number one
• 25:21
  and two. As far as early projection, I'm trying to think. I
• 25:26
  can't think of these other guys' names here, but yeah, I know it's
• 25:30
  I'll say this too. I feel like with all the hype that Winby got
• 25:36
  and the next Lebron James's next goat goat candidate here, when you go into
• 25:41
  the next draft, there's gonna be underwhelming because you just went from one of
• 25:45
  the greatest draft classes or supposedly in the past ten, ten, fifteen years.
• 25:52
  So I think it's just an automatic. So yeah, all I'm just
• 25:56
  saying is that, hey, if the Bulls, if we take this year,
• 26:02
  I'm not gonna lie. I wouldn't mind Cooper Flag, I would not
• 26:04
  mind. I would not mind that. But he's he's a spur Bro,
• 26:10
  He's a spur Trust. How many first round picks y'all got? I think
• 26:15
  you'll have a lot, right, let meed shure spurs future. Who's that
• 26:22
  Hayden in the comments? Is that Luke? Yeah? That is Luke.
• 26:26
  I already know. I already know that's Luke. Yeah. Just sounds like
• 26:30
  a hater. Just sounds like a hater. No. No, but the
• 26:33
  Bulls they really can't develop. No, but this is under a new regime.
• 26:37
  This is under new regime, because I'll say this, under Billy Donovan,
• 26:41
  Kobe White, he's he's developed a lot. Then you have Patrick Williams,
• 26:47
  he's one, two, three, four. We have six first round
• 26:55
  picks. See, I knew y'all had a lot lot coming up. So
• 26:59
  we have the Bulls protected top ten, yeah, the Hawks unprotected, Knicks
• 27:04
  protected top fourteen, Hawks protected top fourteen. Yeah, I know our is
• 27:11
  top protected. Yeah, we have y'alls round two. We have one two,
• 27:18
  the one, two, three, four, five, six second round
• 27:25
  picks. What the geez we had us to the next year, two first
• 27:30
  round picks in next year, Dude, we have a lot of second round
• 27:33
  picks in twenty twenty six, bro geez eight. Oh yeah, no,
• 27:37
  all of those are going to be gone by then. Yeah. Yeah,
• 27:42
  no, way, we're about We're about to get to traded. No worry,
• 27:45
  Lowry, you're coming. Yeah, I know. But speaking of trading,
• 27:48
  let's go. Let's go to move on to there. So before we
• 27:52
  get into a free agency here, we're going to talk about some of these
• 27:56
  trades. That's that happened, and it was kind of the first domino to
• 28:00
  fall throughout this free agency. And what that was it was Michel Bridges going
• 28:06
  to the Knicks five first round picks unprotected and two pick swaps and Boyang Bodanovich
• 28:14
  for Mikel Bridges. So now and then they they resigned Oji Ananobi five year,
• 28:19
  two hundred and twelve million. So now you could build a somewhat starting
• 28:23
  lineup of Bronson, Josh Hart, mckel, Bridges, Ojan Nobi, Julius
• 28:29
  Randall, Mitchell Robinson or Devincenzo around that. So does this push the Knicks
• 28:36
  over the top here because this is something they needed. I mean, I
• 28:41
  think it does. I think it makes them easily the number one contender against
• 28:44
  the Boston Celtics in the Eastern Conference next year, for sure, Like I
• 28:47
  will say that for sure outright. I don't think any other team has made
• 28:51
  that much drastic of a move. If Milwaukee stays healthy, that's different.
• 28:56
  And Milwaukee can stay healthy, I think it's a different saying. But if
• 29:00
  we're just talking New York Knicks adding another score who can take the pressure off
• 29:03
  of Jalen Brunson. And we even said ourselves, they don't need a superstar.
• 29:07
  They need someone to be able to take pressure off, someone to be
• 29:11
  able to handle the ball when Jalen Brunson doesn't. And that's Michail Bridges.
• 29:15
  I understand he had an off year and it's with the Brooklyn Nets when a
• 29:18
  lot of us expected him to take that next step. But I think the
• 29:21
  whole Brooklyn Nets team, which is off in general, I think it was
• 29:23
  just a bunch of new guys figure out new top roles for a whole season
• 29:27
  and just they just couldn't figure it out. But I do think they think
• 29:32
  this year with mikel Bridges going back to being a second or third option on
• 29:36
  a team. I do think it's gonna help him out tremendously. And this
• 29:38
  is gonna be a big move for the New York Knicks going into next season.
• 29:42
  With the five first round picks is kind of insane. Plus Bojan Bogdanovich,
• 29:47
  it's a lot, but sometimes you just gotta you gotta pay the scared
• 29:52
  money. Don't make no money. They're just said, scared money, don't
• 29:55
  make no money. Exactly. No. I think the reason they had to
• 29:59
  pay more. Plus you're going across town. You're going from Rival, Yeah,
• 30:03
  you're going to Rival Brooklyn to New York. So you're gonna have to
• 30:07
  pay that extra. And sometimes it may not seem at first like, Okay,
• 30:14
  mckel bridges, maybe he's not worth those five first round picks, like
• 30:17
  a Kevin Durant or James Harden back in his prime, or Paul George whatever
• 30:22
  it is. But sometimes you just need that one piece to put you over
• 30:26
  the top. And it seems like the Knicks believe that's the one piece that
• 30:30
  they need. And like you were mentioning, and I think this is a
• 30:34
  good thing that mckel bridges. He was on the nets for a year.
• 30:37
  He got comfortable being that number one, number one and getting all the pressure
• 30:41
  defensively. And now you're going to the Knicks with Jalen Brunson, so you're
• 30:45
  gonna be facing the number two's the number three or you're the number two,
• 30:49
  number three option, so you could take advantage of that. And one thing
• 30:53
  he's always been damn good at even in Brooklyn, He's always been a damn
• 30:57
  catching or damn good catch and shoot three point three point guy. So I
• 31:03
  think the worst he shot, yeah, it was thirty seven percent and that
• 31:07
  was this year. So that's somebody that that could knock down threes. And
• 31:11
  then defense too, you have somebody that could compete him Ogi Annobi. Then
• 31:18
  you have Josh Hart there. That's somebody that where you could hide Jalen Brunton
• 31:22
  defensively. So it's definitely it's definitely something that was a great move for him.
• 31:29
  But or you know what, let's go ahea and get into I just
• 31:32
  feel like it's not better than this team, the Philadelphia seventy six ers here
• 31:36
  with some of the moves that they made here. So obviously the big domino
• 31:41
  to fall here it was Paul George to the Philadelphia seventy six ers four year
• 31:47
  round two hundred and twelve million, and then Tyre Smacksy they resigned him five
• 31:51
  year. Max Steel resigned Kelly Oubrey, broughd In, Eric Gordon Broughden,
• 31:56
  Andre Drummond. So how are you feeling about these moves so far on the
• 32:00
  Sixers. Well, Andre Drummond brings in an immediate defensive presence on the interior.
• 32:05
  Plus I don't know how many people have been better in history at rebounding
• 32:08
  in the basketball than Andre Drummond. Understand he he's taken a big drop off
• 32:13
  from when he first started in his career, but the dude gets his on
• 32:16
  the boards, and I do think that he's gonna help this team out tremendously,
• 32:21
  and he's He's been good for a couple of years right now. I
• 32:22
  think he's developed into a role where he doesn't have to do too much.
• 32:28
  He's just playing, doing his job, rebounding, getting the putbacks, doing
• 32:31
  the dirty work. And I think that's a big move for the Philadelphia six
• 32:34
  to seventy six ers because I think that's what they were missing, was another
• 32:37
  reliable rebounder. And I do think that's what Andre Drummond brings to this team.
• 32:42
  And then we're gonna talk about Eric Gordon bringing in a shooter, someone
• 32:45
  that can catch and shoot, a veteran presence that knows winning. I understand,
• 32:49
  like not knows winning, but he's been in playoff teams. He knows
• 32:52
  what it takes to get to the playoffs on a consistent basis. And I
• 32:55
  think Eric Gordon does bring that. And then just resigning Tyres Maxtin and Kelly
• 33:00
  Ray, two guys that really broke out this season. I understand Kelly Ray's
• 33:04
  been around for a little bit, but this is arguably his best season as
• 33:06
  a professional with the Philadelphia seventy six ers. And then you bring in Paul
• 33:10
  George. I understand. I understand Joel Embiid has played with some other great
• 33:16
  players like a James Harden, a Jimmy Butler. But the thing is that's
• 33:21
  different between those two guys and Paul George is that Paul George is a selfless
• 33:25
  player. He's willing to give up the rock, he's willing to do his
• 33:29
  job. And you're also getting a guy like Paul George on your team,
• 33:32
  who's good defensively, who's who's who can get his offensively, he can take
• 33:37
  the big shots win needed. And I think that's gonna take a lot of
• 33:39
  pressure off both Tyres maxi and and Joel Embiid with a guy like Paul George
• 33:45
  on this team, Yeah, and just Claire cut replacing Tobias Harris with Paul
• 33:52
  George, And like you're saying, as far as with all the other role
• 33:55
  players, this is a perfect match. Joel Embiid is the number one,
• 34:00
  but I feel like the perfect guy next to him is Tyree Smaxy because it
• 34:05
  really doesn't interfere with how they try to play basketball. And Paul George,
• 34:09
  he could be a catch and shoot player, he could be somebody. If
• 34:12
  he needs to go get his own shot, he will. And I know
• 34:15
  I was bringing it up with Michel Bridges, but this is the same thing
• 34:19
  here. He's gonna be facing the number two, number three option for whoever
• 34:24
  whoever they're playing against. So that's gonna be a big mismatch there. And
• 34:30
  I just think, personally me, I think the Sixers, even if the
• 34:35
  Bucks stay healthy, even if the Knicks stay healthy, I think the Philadelphia
• 34:39
  seventy six ers they're the biggest threat because nobody on the Boston Celtics. As
• 34:45
  of now, there hasn't been a major trade. I'm pretty sure they're not
• 34:49
  gonna trade anybody. They're gonna pretty much run it back. But Christops cannot
• 34:54
  guard Joel Embiid, Neither can Luke Cornett or who else do they have?
• 35:00
  Xavier Tillman. None of those guys can guard Joel Embiid, and I feel
• 35:04
  like that's gonna be the biggest thing for me. But if you had to
• 35:08
  rank them Bucks, Knicks, Sixers, Celtics, how are you ranking that?
• 35:14
  Right there? Bucks, Nicks, six Ers, give me the Celtics.
• 35:22
  Ok the Sixers, the Knicks, the Bucks. Okay, I think
• 35:30
  yeah, I have that in that exact order right there too. Okay,
• 35:34
  we always find a way to agree on these things. But okay, before
• 35:37
  we get a little bit more into free agency, one more thing is that
• 35:44
  Jimmy Butler is not expects to re sign with the Heat after this year,
• 35:47
  so he's pretty much on a prove it deal, And he's even came out
• 35:52
  and said that he's bound to have a career here this year. So potentially,
• 35:58
  I'm just throwing this out here, Jimmy Butler potentially on a one year
• 36:01
  deal, gonna play the best basketball of his career. I feel like he
• 36:07
  should be included in these trade talks, maybe LA, maybe Golden State,
• 36:13
  maybe somewhere where where he could compete, you know what I mean, Because
• 36:17
  it already seemed like from pat Riley's perspective, he was already upset. He
• 36:22
  had his exit interview talking about Jimmy Butler. So do you think for this
• 36:29
  last year for Jimmy Butler, which it's been reported by Shams and all these
• 36:31
  different guys, do you think that he should stay in Miami or he should
• 36:36
  go to nash for a trade. I think he should go ahead and ask
• 36:39
  for a trade. I think Miami's already looking towards the future. I understand
• 36:43
  that they're consistently, they're consistently in that in that bubble. They're consistently they're
• 36:50
  too good to not be bad, but they're not good enough to be great.
• 36:54
  Yeah, so they're just a good basketball team, and being just a
• 36:58
  good basketball team in today's end, that doesn't cut it. You need to
• 37:01
  be absolutely perfect. We saw the Boston Celtics play close to perfect basketball,
• 37:06
  and that's what and that's what it's gonna take to beat the Boston Celtics,
• 37:09
  and I do think you just have to blow it up. I think,
• 37:12
  and I understand you have. Bam, you resigned, Bam. That's good.
• 37:15
  He's your foundational piece. But these aging veterans, like a Jimmy Butler,
• 37:19
  you got to send them to contenders and bring in as much picks as
• 37:21
  you possibly can. Okay, So if you had to pick a destination for
• 37:27
  Jimmy Butler as of right now, how these teams are constructed, where would
• 37:32
  it be and why these teams are constructed? He has to go to a
• 37:38
  defensive team, I think. Okay, But the thing is, I want
• 37:45
  to see him go play maybe with the Stephan Curry, with the with the
• 37:47
  Warriors, but it just doesn't scream perfect fit to me. Like, I
• 37:53
  just don't feel the same vibes. You know, I'm low key thinking.
• 37:55
  I'm low key thinking sending him to Cleveland Orlando and putting him on a defensive
• 38:01
  one of those teams. Either help out Orlando takes some pressure away from Donovan
• 38:06
  Mitchell, or go to Orlando and just create the defensive juggernaut that they're already
• 38:10
  building there. Yeah, man, imagine the defense on there. Nobody would
• 38:15
  score Holy crap, No, but now we're about to talk about a team
• 38:21
  that probably no one's gonna score here here in a little bit. Okay,
• 38:25
  well yeah, okay, yeah, let's go. Let's go ahead and move
• 38:29
  on to this next team. So I'm just trying to go through some of
• 38:32
  the smaller ones before we get into the bigger dominoes here. So or one
• 38:38
  of these is right here. So I know you talked about Cleveland, Cleveland.
• 38:43
  This is pretty short and simple. Donovan Mitchell agrees to three year extension
• 38:46
  the max. It's about one point fifty, and they haven't made any more
• 38:51
  moves. They're expecting to keep Darius Garland here. So I know there was
• 38:57
  talks at the beginning saying Donovan Mitchell he was gonna be on the move,
• 39:00
  but now he's pretty much standing still. So do you think that the Cavs
• 39:07
  after another year? I know Jared Allen heels unhealthy, Donovan Mitchell heels unhealthy.
• 39:12
  Do you think they have a chance to compete against these other teams in
• 39:15
  the East. No, I don't think it's enough. I think Donovan mitchellill
• 39:20
  signed this deal to take a Damian Lillard route, to take the route where
• 39:22
  he don't got no expectations to win a championship. But we know you're a
• 39:25
  damn good basketball player, and then when you age, you're gonna go to
• 39:29
  a contender, and then when you don't win, we're gonna be like,
• 39:32
  damn, he's just too old, you know. So I I kind of
• 39:37
  feel the same vibes. I feel the same vibes with Donovan mill Okay,
• 39:40
  because because if we're being completely honest, Donovan Mitchell is a top ten scorer
• 39:45
  in the entire NBA. He gets his when he needs to get his understand
• 39:49
  Defensively, he make lack a little, but there is points in his career
• 39:52
  where he just takes over games and he balls out. But he's staying on
• 39:57
  a team that he knows not is not prepared to win an NBA championship,
• 40:00
  especially as the teams around you. The seventy six Ers got better, The
• 40:05
  Boston Celtics will remain the same, The New York Knicks got better. The
• 40:08
  Cleveland Cavaliers are are stuck, are stuck where they were at last year.
• 40:13
  I don't yeah, and honest, I understand Evan Mobley. I want to
• 40:17
  see a jump from Evan Mobley. He's a good basketball player, but he
• 40:22
  has a potential to be a great basketball player, and we have yet to
• 40:24
  see that. I feel like there's way too many times he becomes stagnant on
• 40:28
  the boards in important situations. He becomes stagnant on offense where he doesn't demand
• 40:32
  the ball and demand and create in an interior presence. He likes to sit
• 40:37
  out on the wings sometimes, even though he's not that great of a shooter
• 40:40
  and he can really get his on the interior. I just feel like a
• 40:44
  lot of this team, this team has a lot to grow. Darius Garland,
• 40:45
  I feel like took a step back last year from what he thought he
• 40:50
  was gonna be coming off of being an All Star. Right he made the
• 40:52
  All Star two years all coming off of being an All Star where he was
• 40:55
  starting to pick up his scoring to taking a step back and be coming a
• 41:00
  passer. We need some aggressiveness from you. So I think the Cleveland Cavaliers
• 41:04
  team has a lot to look in the mirror and figure out. And then
• 41:06
  when they do do that, we can come back and talk about this topic.
• 41:09
  But as of right now, I don't think this does anything for this
• 41:12
  team. Yeah, no, it definitely doesn't. And you could say the
• 41:15
  Pacers are arguably better right now. The Bucks are arguably better right now.
• 41:19
  That's already around the seventh seed that you're looking right now. The Pacers might
• 41:23
  be better right now. I feel like the Pacers they're clearly better than the
• 41:28
  Caves, not necessarily talent wise, just matchup wise. I don't feel like
• 41:34
  like like you were saying, Darius Scarland in order that destroyed them boys,
• 41:37
  Yeah, in order for you to have a small backcourt who plays no defense.
• 41:42
  Between Darius Scarland and Donovan Mitchell, both of them need to be getting
• 41:45
  buckets about fifty to sixty points a night. And Darius Scarland, he just
• 41:50
  hasn't shown that this past year or past year and a half. Really he
• 41:54
  was on that elevation, but he definitely was. Yeah, yeah, that's
• 41:59
  that's why he got that max contract. But who knows, maybe it was
• 42:02
  just a dip year. Also, again, there was a bunch of injuries,
• 42:06
  so maybe he could bounce back. But before we talk about the MAVs
• 42:10
  here, we're gonna talk a little bit about our teams here. So the
• 42:15
  San Antonio Spurs one year deal eleven million dollars for Chris Paul, who was
• 42:22
  released by the Golden State Warriors and then the Chicago Bulls. We're gonna kind
• 42:27
  of mix this together since it's our teams. Alex Brui also got traded for
• 42:30
  Josh Giddy and then Jalen Smith to the Bulls three year deal twenty seven million,
• 42:36
  and Patrick Williams resigns on a five year deal. So first you could
• 42:40
  talk about the Spurs here. How are you feeling about this? Chris Paul
• 42:44
  and Wimby fit here? It feels great. I do think that a lot
• 42:47
  of people are kind of complaining that, oh, they should have traded for
• 42:51
  a younger player, a guy that Wimby couldn't develop with. They don't realize
• 42:54
  that we're doing. I don't think they realized the impact that Chris Paul will
• 42:58
  bring to teaching a young player how to play basketball. We saw him do
• 43:01
  it with SGA, We saw what he turned into, and I do think
• 43:07
  he can do the same thing with Stefan Castle. We'll start with Stefan Castle.
• 43:10
  Stefan Castle getting to learn how to run a pick and roll and pass
• 43:14
  and throw lobs from the greatest, one of the greatest point guards to ever
• 43:17
  do it. That's gonna do a lot of that's gonna do a lot for
• 43:21
  your career, especially a guy that played in Lob City with Blake Griffin and
• 43:27
  DeAndre Jordan. This is the better. Wimby's a way better Lob threat than
• 43:30
  both of those guys. And I get Blake Griffin flew out of the sky,
• 43:34
  but they're not seven foot four. They're not seven foot five with a
• 43:37
  seven foot with the seven foot eight wingspan. They're not that guy. So
• 43:43
  it's it's just gonna be completely different. And if we're talking about Stefan Castle,
• 43:46
  is gonna also develop Wimby's game and then by magnitudes because he's gonna have
• 43:52
  a guy that can actually put the ball where it needs to be, a
• 43:54
  guy that understands what he's gonna do before he does it. And that's gonna
• 43:58
  be Chris Paul. And it's gonna make Wimby realize his true potential when it
• 44:02
  comes to playing in the NBA offensively Defensively, Wimby's already the best offensively.
• 44:07
  Is about to prepare him to a whole nother standard. And then we're gonna
• 44:10
  talk about another player that it will help. I think it's gonna help Jeremy
• 44:13
  so Hen quite a bit. Oh Jeremy so Hen is very I do think
• 44:17
  they tried they forced Jeremy Sohan to learn to pass because they see the potential
• 44:22
  what he can do with his on ball, with his with his being a
• 44:25
  primary ball handler. And I do think learning a little bit of a couple
• 44:30
  of tricks from Chris Paul with that with jamisone stepping away from maybe that potential
• 44:34
  that he was gonna have of being a ball handler. He can now be
• 44:37
  someone that when he does have the rock, can make right decisions. And
• 44:40
  plus it may help him out in the pick and roll. Also because Jemi
• 44:43
  so Hen also being athletic and being able to kind of he's getting his little
• 44:47
  catch and shoot going on. He's gotten a little bit better at that,
• 44:51
  and plus is getting the ball in spots where he needs it. I think
• 44:53
  Chris Paul is going to change that for both Wimby and Jeremy Sohan. And
• 44:58
  then plus one other player that's gonna help a lot is Devin Vascelle. Devinoll.
• 45:02
  I think offensive game is completely developed already. I do think he just
• 45:07
  has to be more consistent putting the ball inside the basket. His offensive games
• 45:10
  already there. I think it's just I do think this will help him and
• 45:15
  take the ball out of his hands in certain situations where he doesn't need it
• 45:17
  to be in his hands, because I do think last year he found himself
• 45:21
  in a lot of iso ball situations where he was forced to take tough shots,
• 45:25
  him being one of the top tough shot makers in the entire NBA,
• 45:30
  hitting like about fifty two percent of his shots when a primary defenders up on
• 45:35
  him. I do think that's what it was. But getting out of that
• 45:38
  situation with another ball handler is gonna help him out tremendously because he's not gonna
• 45:42
  have to rely on himself creating the shot for him. Yeah, I think,
• 45:47
  Chris Paul, because like you were saying at the very beginning of your
• 45:51
  rant, go with somebody younger. Sometimes you don't need a younger guy.
• 45:54
  You need a veteran who I wouldn't say championship experience, but knows how to
• 46:00
  win basketball games. That's the biggest thing for the Spurs. I know Greg
• 46:02
  Popovich knows how to win, but you need a player on the court that
• 46:07
  knows how to win basketball games and play winning basketball. And that's what Chris
• 46:10
  Paul. He exactly brings there in just that leadership, and you mentioned everybody
• 46:15
  he's helped grow. He's kind of the one that helped grow this young Thunder
• 46:21
  team into what they are, which we'll talk about in a second. But
• 46:24
  I really like this, and I think this is Chris Paul's last I think
• 46:29
  this is gonna be his last year. I'm not gonna lie. I think
• 46:31
  he's gonna retire. I think he pretty much said, all right, I
• 46:36
  try to win a championship. I try to go to Phoenix, I try
• 46:38
  to go to Golden State. This didn't work. Let me go ahead and
• 46:44
  teach one of the best young young players in the league potentially ever, to
• 46:52
  play winning basketball. That's what I believe about that. And again, I
• 46:55
  just really like this move right here. And again you probably you probably should
• 47:01
  have kept your burnding Paul Jersey, but I guess not, man, I
• 47:05
  haven't. I think all around, I think with what you're saying was winning
• 47:09
  basketball. Yeah, there's a lot of times where this Spurs team blew so
• 47:14
  many leads, and we talked about it a lot. I think they they
• 47:15
  blew maybe twenty some twenty plus ten point leads going into the fourth quarter.
• 47:22
  I think they blew maybe the most twenty point leads in NBA history this year,
• 47:27
  and that just comes down to experience. That comes down to not being
• 47:30
  able to maintain a lead, putting the ball where it needs to be,
• 47:34
  slowing down the offense, trying to do too much when there isn't there when
• 47:37
  there isn't a need to do too much. They's just playing consistent basketball.
• 47:42
  And I do think having someone like a Chris Paul will help this team develop
• 47:46
  into learning how to do that, because we're really gonna sit here. We
• 47:51
  have Greg Papovich. Gregkovich can only do so much from the sideline. Having
• 47:53
  a player with that experience already on the court is gonna help this team out
• 47:58
  a lot. We've never been in this situation where it was just a young
• 48:01
  team entirely because if we think about the timeline, Duncan Robinson David Robinson to
• 48:06
  Tim Duncan, and then they with Tim Duncan, they developed Manu and Tony
• 48:09
  Parker who comes in in different situations and handles the rock. And then from
• 48:14
  them we developed into Marcus Aldridge and Kawhi Leonard and then from there we develop
• 48:17
  into de Johntay Murray and Derek and I'm not even gonna bring him up.
• 48:21
  We just bringing We developed into John No, Derek White was not that guy
• 48:24
  on our team. Then we developed into Dejonte developing with a Demarta Rosen and
• 48:30
  they with dejohontey learn it coming into his own as a point guard who can
• 48:34
  close out games when needed. But now then we came into that gap era
• 48:38
  where we didn't have no one that could do that with and now we have
• 48:42
  that again, and I do think it's gonna help this team grow quite a
• 48:44
  bit, especially if they want this team to be contenders in a couple of
• 48:46
  seasons. Yeah, no question. And Chris Paul everywhere he's went, he's
• 48:52
  improved the other team's winning record by at least ten, ten to fifteen percent.
• 48:59
  And he did that even last year in a down year with Golden State
• 49:02
  that had a better record than they did the year previous. So he's always
• 49:07
  contributing to winning. I'm not gonna say that he's gonna take this team to
• 49:13
  forty to fifty wins, but I could see this team now becoming a fringe
• 49:17
  playing team. If Winby takes another jump, then maybe you could say,
• 49:22
  okay, maybe a nine eight seed right here. But it's something that the
• 49:25
  Spurs definitely needed. And I know this sounds crazy, but I think this
• 49:30
  is an a plus due to just experience and teaching the Spurs how to win
• 49:35
  basketball games with a young team. I don't know what you would grade it
• 49:37
  here. I'm pretty sure the same thing, exact same thing. Okay,
• 49:44
  now time to a more complicated team here, my team right here? Yeah,
• 49:47
  tell me about it. So, Josh giddy for Alex Caruso straight up
• 49:52
  in the trade right before the draft, Jalen Smith three year deal twenty seven
• 49:58
  million, and Patrick Williams re signed. You still have Lonzo Ball on the
• 50:00
  book for one year, DeMar DeRozan he opted out of his deal. You
• 50:05
  still have Nikola Vucevic. You still have Zach Lavine, who you're still trying
• 50:08
  to get rid of. But how are you feeling about this, Josh?
• 50:14
  Do you feel like it's officially time for the Bulls to head into this rebuild
• 50:19
  here? I do think so. I do think that you take the time
• 50:22
  to build around to Kobe White and Patrick Williams. I understand people are hitting
• 50:27
  on the Patrick Williams deal, but you need players like that. You need
• 50:30
  to lockdown players. You have Draymond Greens you have DeAndre Jordan's. You have
• 50:35
  these guys that in their primes were players that you needed to pay because they
• 50:39
  were important to the They were important to the success of your team. And
• 50:44
  that's what Patrick Williams is. You need players to do the dirty work,
• 50:46
  especially him. He's good offensively, Yeah, he hasn't even developed to his
• 50:51
  full potential. I truly believe. I do think he has a long ways
• 50:53
  to go. I do think injuries have held him back. So I'm I'm
• 50:58
  I'm happy with the five year deal locks him up, gives them time to
• 51:00
  develop to maybe see what he turns into. We don't know yet. We
• 51:04
  haven't seen him enough to know what he's really gonna be, and I do
• 51:07
  think this gives him the opportunity. Josh Josh Giddy, I'm not sure how
• 51:14
  to feel about it. I do think we saw Kobe White really develop into
• 51:16
  the main ballhandler role, but now that's kind of taken away from him with
• 51:20
  this Josh Giddy move. Because Josh Giddy is a player that needs the ball.
• 51:23
  He's he's not a great scorer, but he's a great passer, and
• 51:28
  great passers need the ball in their hands to do their job. And I
• 51:30
  think that takes away from Kobe White. Is he gonna step back into that
• 51:34
  catch and shoot player? Is he gonna Is he gonna be in crunch time
• 51:37
  moments to one with the ball in his hand? And I don't know.
• 51:39
  I kind of like the development he showed last year, and I do think
• 51:42
  they should have rocked with that. But I get it. You you need
• 51:46
  someone sometimes to take the load off. But I just don't think Josh Giddy
• 51:51
  is that guy for the Chicago Bulls. And Jalen Smith's is another one of
• 51:53
  those guys you need to fill out the role. He's a younger player with
• 51:57
  a lot of potential. We'll have to wait and see what he does.
• 52:00
  But as far as the Josh Getty, I'm not too excited about that move.
• 52:02
  Yeah no, Josh Giddy that that definitely was a move I was not
• 52:07
  happy with. I remember I was at work and then Josh called me.
• 52:10
  He ruined my whole day at work, He ruined my whole day day.
• 52:14
  What are friends for? Brother? What are friends for? And then he
• 52:17
  had the audacity to say, oh, yeah, I'll get you a Josh
• 52:22
  Getty jersey. Yeah no, no, But I feel like it's officially time
• 52:29
  it's officially time for the Bulls to rebuild. We've been holding this back for
• 52:32
  so many many years. Honestly, I would not mind that at all.
• 52:37
  So before or I would go ahead and say the four worst contracts we have
• 52:42
  is Lonzo Ball it's a one year deal around eighteen million, Zach Lavine which
• 52:45
  it's a three year deal, which it's a ridiculous amount, over forty million.
• 52:51
  Deebo he's gone. But there's Javon Carter it's a two year deal,
• 52:54
  then Nicola Vusovich. If we can happen to get rid of those guys right
• 52:59
  there, I feel like the biggest domino is gonna be Levine Vucevich. That's
• 53:02
  gonna be easy. Fine, he's not making too much money. Then Lonzo
• 53:07
  Ball player in the NBA's he's a solid player. Yeah, exactly, Lonzo
• 53:12
  Ball. I don't know if somebody's gonna take them, but it's a one
• 53:15
  year deal. But I just like the movement that we're going with. You
• 53:20
  have Io Desumu, Kobe White, Josh Getty, Dalen Terry Patrick Williams,
• 53:23
  Modus Buzzellis, Julian Phillips, Jalen Smith. Half of these guys probably nobody
• 53:29
  knows because they really don't pay attention to the Bulls like that. But they're
• 53:32
  all under twenty five. And the biggest thing is that all of these guys,
• 53:37
  besides Modus bozellis they can shoot the basketball. We're finally going into a
• 53:45
  time or we're not stuck in the two thousand's early twenty tens where we didn't
• 53:49
  have anybody that could shoot. It's officially time for the rebuild and Cooper Flag
• 53:54
  Sweepstakes. Here we come. I'm excited for it. I'm excited for it,
• 54:00
  and it's gonna be between Brooklyn, Chicago and I still feel like Detroit.
• 54:07
  I'm not gonna lie, but but honestly, I guess just me being
• 54:13
  biased here, we finally decided to go in a move here. So I'm
• 54:16
  gonna say a B minus B plus That's what I'm gonna give the Bulls here.
• 54:22
  I don't know. I don't know about you. Looking from an outside
• 54:23
  perspective, I would do a C C plus for me. I just don't
• 54:30
  like them. I just did, Josh. I just don't know where the
• 54:32
  Bulls are going. I really have no idea, Like, if they had
• 54:37
  a direction, I could give them a better grade. Patrick Williams is really
• 54:39
  caring the grade for me everyone else, I just like, whatever, We're
• 54:44
  gonna figure it out. I do think, okay, zach Lavigne is getting
• 54:49
  paid. I think he was overpaid at the time. That's why I kind
• 54:52
  of don't like max contracts too much, because every player gets them at some
• 54:57
  point that shows some flashes of being a great player makes one. But the
• 55:01
  thing is with zach Lavine, He's not in either of our top twenty players,
• 55:07
  and he's getting paid like a top twenty player. I don't He's probably
• 55:09
  arguably not even top twenty five anymore. It's just he never developed into that
• 55:15
  guy that can fully take over games. He's a good player, he's a
• 55:17
  solid player you need on championship teams to be that second or third option,
• 55:22
  but to be the guy leading the way, that's just not him. I'd
• 55:24
  rather have DeMar DeRozan back over zach Levine, and that's just in my honest
• 55:29
  opinion, because Demart de Rozan has proven that he can be a winner in
• 55:34
  the NBA. Zach Lavine hasn't. So I'll say this, I feel like
• 55:38
  the biggest reason why nobody wants zach Lavine is because what they added in the
• 55:44
  CBA, and I feel like we should have talked about that the second apron
• 55:47
  as far as for the luxury tax and if you go over that tax,
• 55:52
  I don't know if you know this, Josh. So you're not able to
• 55:53
  do a sign in trade, you're not able to pick up players off of
• 55:57
  a buyout. And then if you go over that, you go a dollar
• 56:00
  for a dollar tax, and if you're in it for consecutive years, your
• 56:05
  pick, no matter what your record is, goes to the thirtieth overall pick.
• 56:09
  So there's a bunch of consequences of being in the second apron, and
• 56:14
  zach Lavine for a bunch of teams would put them over the second apron.
• 56:17
  So obviously times you gotta do what the NFL does and just do give them,
• 56:22
  give them the money straight up. Yeah, forget about it. Yeah,
• 56:27
  that's that's the thing where basketball and baseball you could kind of wiggle your
• 56:31
  way around it and find a way. There's different ways to get around instead
• 56:37
  of adding the apron or whatever. But it's part of it. That's why
• 56:42
  nobody wants zach Lavine. I know there's been rumors about US dumping Zach Levine.
• 56:46
  Just straight up, which would be insane to me, but sometimes you
• 56:51
  got to bite the bullet. I feel like if Zach Lavine he is let
• 56:53
  go it yeah at this point, because we would have to touch a first
• 57:00
  round pick to trade him, which we're going in a rebuilding area. So
• 57:04
  talking about Timothy Moskoff in this chat, bro, really, I think I
• 57:12
  would hear talk about someone that got overpaid talk about someone that got overpaid.
• 57:16
  Timothy Moskof when he got paid was the same dude? No, but okay,
• 57:25
  yeah, no? Oh? Why did that pop up? Alan Crab
• 57:30
  dang? I forgot about Alan Krab No, but all right, let's get
• 57:34
  into some of the heavy hitters here. Alan Krab cakes the Dallas Mavericks via
• 57:40
  signing trade is not official what they're gonna trade exactly yet, but they got
• 57:45
  Klay Thompson on a three year deal, got Naji Marshall as well, and
• 57:49
  then Cornen Grimes, so I know they made the finals. They needed to
• 57:54
  make some moves. How are you feeling about this? Do you feel like
• 57:58
  this puts them back over the top. I think it puts them back where
• 58:01
  they were at. I'm not gonna say I don't think which Klay Thompson are
• 58:07
  we getting that's the answer. Are we getting Klay Thompson that plays ten games
• 58:13
  fifteen games this season, or we're getting Klay Thompson that maybe plays sixty consistent
• 58:17
  three point shooter. I'm not expecting fifty percent plus Clay, but I'm expecting
• 58:22
  forty five forty plus Clay. I'll be happy with that. Goes back to
• 58:27
  a semi good defender. Maybe maybe maybe goes back if we get a Danny
• 58:32
  Green Klay Thompson. I think this is I don't know what the trade.
• 58:36
  It's just weird Klay Thompson that in his career. I don't know what he
• 58:38
  is anymore. I can't after based off last season, there wasn't a lot
• 58:44
  of flashes to the old Clay. He's just not the same guy he used
• 58:47
  to be. He took too there was just too much time taking off.
• 58:51
  We're not getting eleven points in sixty. We're not getting sixty sixty points on
• 58:55
  eleven dribbles Clay anymore. That's not who we're getting we're getting. We're getting
• 59:00
  Clay who's if he's opened pasting the rock, hopefully he makes it. That's
• 59:04
  what the Clay we're getting he's not the same defender he used to be.
• 59:07
  It just doesn't it's just not appealing to me. I don't think it's that
• 59:10
  big a move that puts you over the hump to being maybe, oh you
• 59:14
  might be the Celtics. I just do think it puts you back in the
• 59:15
  same position. Yeah, I definitely agree with that. I think the biggest
• 59:21
  thing is gonna just be the change in offense. I feel like they're gonna
• 59:24
  try to go to the real five out offense now. If you have Clay
• 59:30
  and PJ. Washington and I'm assuming Derek Lively, he's gonna be the start
• 59:34
  of this year. I feel like you could have a real five out offense
• 59:37
  and have Luca being the prime facilitator here, and it could be better.
• 59:45
  It could be a better matchup problem to the Celtics, because all the Celtics
• 59:50
  had to do was just put Jason Tatum or Jaylen Brown on on the guy
• 59:54
  who's said in the pick and your lop threat is gone and you depend on
• 1:00:00
  PJ. Washington and Derek Jones Junior to make threes. So that's not a
• 1:00:04
  way to win. At least with Klay Thompson, he's been for the most
• 1:00:08
  part. Even last year he had a bad year, a good three point
• 1:00:12
  shooter, so he could at least beat you. It gives you a better
• 1:00:15
  threat. A bad year for the second greatest hitter of all time is another
• 1:00:20
  person's good year. Yeah, just letting y'all know, Just letting y'all know.
• 1:00:24
  Yeah, exactly. So, I don't know with some of these teams
• 1:00:29
  in the West getting better, I feel like it's hard to really explain here.
• 1:00:35
  Which let's go ahead and talk about actually the Thunder here we'll match up
• 1:00:38
  with these two teams since they kind of played with me. Talk about a
• 1:00:40
  team that got better, a lot better. So the Oklahoma City Thunder got
• 1:00:46
  Alex Caruz on the trade with Josh Getty which we talked about, re signed
• 1:00:51
  Isaiah Joe and Aaron Wiggins under cheap contracts under twenty million each per year,
• 1:00:58
  and then they got Isaiah harvinst from the Knicks on a three year deal where
• 1:01:02
  that last year is not guaranteed, which opens up a spot for them to
• 1:01:07
  re sign Jalen Williams and Chet Holmgren whenever their contracts expire. So compare to
• 1:01:15
  the Mavericks, who's better right now? Who's better? Oklahoma City thunder hands
• 1:01:22
  down Isaiah Hartstein. They bring in a good defender, pick and roll,
• 1:01:27
  pick and roll beast. They bring in a guy that a big man that
• 1:01:30
  can pass pass first, big man who also gets his offensively sometimes, but
• 1:01:36
  he's a good defender. They need that interior presence outside of Chet. They
• 1:01:39
  moved Chet to the four and put Isaiah Hardinston at the five. That's a
• 1:01:43
  good one to two punch on the interior for this Oklahoma City team. But
• 1:01:46
  what you bring in an all defensive player also with Alex Caruso and put them
• 1:01:52
  right next to Shay, bring them off the bench, whatever you need to
• 1:01:54
  do. They're building a defensive squad here. People were already struggling to score
• 1:02:00
  on them this year. Yeah, being like top two in the NBA in
• 1:02:02
  total defense, top three in total defense. Now they're continents for that number
• 1:02:07
  one spot for total defense next year. Immediately with these two players added.
• 1:02:10
  They returned Isaiah Joe who is also a great defender in his own right.
• 1:02:15
  Aaron Wiggins. He's developing into a really good player. But that Alex Cruso
• 1:02:21
  and Isaiah Hartenstein. It goes along. Defense wins championships. We saw that
• 1:02:25
  with the Boston Celtics this year. We've seen that with the Spurs in the
• 1:02:29
  past, with the Pistons in the past. Defense can win championships, and
• 1:02:34
  that's with Oklahoma City Thunder are building right now. I think the biggest thing
• 1:02:37
  that we talked about before the playoffs started was that, Okay, the Thunder,
• 1:02:43
  the biggest thing is going to be crashing the glass, getting rebounds.
• 1:02:46
  What'd they addressed, and then getting experienced playoff experience, which you can't address
• 1:02:52
  by getting players. You just need to be in the playoffs. And they
• 1:02:55
  did exactly that. They checked off every single box, so it's gonna be
• 1:03:00
  really scary. I feel like, no, I'm gonna say this clear cut
• 1:03:05
  because I don't remember who I said was gonna be getting out of the West.
• 1:03:09
  I think I said Thunder or Minnesota. I think I said one of
• 1:03:13
  the two. But now I'm saying this, the Thunder. They're the clear
• 1:03:16
  final favorites to me, no doubt. I feel like they added every single
• 1:03:22
  piece that they needed to a roster that was already great, and I feel
• 1:03:27
  like against the Boston Celtics they would have their way. I feel very confident
• 1:03:32
  in saying this here because Shay's gonna only get better. Jalen Williams's only gonna
• 1:03:38
  get better. And all of these other role players that you brought in well
• 1:03:42
  more recently. Yeah, Lou Dort and the other Jalen Williams, like,
• 1:03:47
  they're just all getting better. They're all too young to not show any signs
• 1:03:52
  of growth, and you just add more great players defensively and that can get
• 1:03:57
  their own offensively when needed. These guys, it's just kind of scary with
• 1:04:00
  the thunder our building right now, especially if we're looking into the next season.
• 1:04:03
  We're getting Nikola topic coming off the bitch, It's gonna be an insane
• 1:04:06
  group. Yeah, you could talk about this is how you build a super
• 1:04:11
  team, ladies and gentlemen. This is how you build a team, not
• 1:04:14
  signing these players to max contracts, forging away your future. This is how
• 1:04:18
  you do it. Right here, Well, since you kind of talked about
• 1:04:23
  it, we're gonna have to talk about the Clippers here. And as far
• 1:04:27
  as I know, they did make some motives here, please blow it up
• 1:04:31
  already, man, They're not gonna do it. Though they did make some
• 1:04:34
  moves. They got Mobama back, Nicholas Patuone, Chris don Re signed James
• 1:04:41
  Harden two year, seventy mil, Derek Jones Junior. And then I don't
• 1:04:45
  know why this guy is still in the league. Kevin Porter junior. Yeah,
• 1:04:47
  get him off a team. Yeah, he he should not be on
• 1:04:50
  a team. But again, as far as with this Thunder trade, after
• 1:04:57
  looking back on it, seven first round picks overall, I think five yeah,
• 1:05:02
  five unprotected, then two pick swaps, and then Kawhi. You never
• 1:05:06
  know if he's gonna be healthy or not. So again, you're gonna have
• 1:05:12
  Kawhi back next year. You're gonna have James Harden back. Russell Westbrook will
• 1:05:15
  see. But I know you already said it. But even if you do
• 1:05:21
  blow it up, you have no first round picks. So what is a
• 1:05:25
  real direct direction they do do go, but you have no first round picks.
• 1:05:30
  Sounds like their fault. I just don't like it. But it sounds
• 1:05:33
  like they messed up. It sounds like they invested into a lot of these
• 1:05:36
  players who are not the same guys they used to be. They're always injured.
• 1:05:42
  Someone's bound to get hurt. We talked about it. Someone is bounced
• 1:05:45
  to get hurt on this Los Angeles Clippers team. When it matters the most.
• 1:05:49
  I guarantee you Kawhi Missus half the season next year, James Harden tries
• 1:05:55
  taking over. It's just it's gonna be a lot if they bring it in
• 1:05:59
  Nicholas tom another aging player. They bring in Derek Jones Junior, let's commend
• 1:06:05
  him league minimum, gets that three year thirty mil. You know, commendment
• 1:06:11
  commitment. I'll give your commendment. You played into it. Kevin Porter,
• 1:06:14
  get off my screen. I don't want anything to do with you, my
• 1:06:15
  guy, Yeah, get off my screen. I don't think you're a good
• 1:06:18
  player, don't get me wrong, but you shouldn't be in the NBA neither
• 1:06:24
  Shamiles Bridges. Both those guys should be off immediately. But and we're gonna
• 1:06:30
  talk about Obama. I do think he kind of played a little bit better
• 1:06:34
  last year. It's just this. They're not good moves to me. It's
• 1:06:40
  just you're stuck in no man's land. You're gonna be the sixth seed,
• 1:06:43
  maybe work your way up to a fifth or four, then you're gonna get
• 1:06:45
  bouncing the first. That's just what it's gonna be for the Los Angeles Clippers
• 1:06:48
  next year. You know what I really think? Obviously, I don't have
• 1:06:53
  any insider or a report or anything, but I really think James Harden He's
• 1:06:57
  gonna request the trade in the middle of the year. I really do see
• 1:07:00
  that happening. He did the exact same thing anymore. But at this point
• 1:07:06
  somebody is gonna be willing to trade for him. Somebody's gonna be willing to
• 1:07:10
  trade for him, and I'm not exactly sure which team, but I feel
• 1:07:15
  like this is just me early predicting. If this is right, somebody needs
• 1:07:19
  to clip this. I feel like a Miami Heat they're gonna pull something where
• 1:07:24
  they're gonna get James hard in the middle of the middle of the season.
• 1:07:28
  They're kind of continding Jimmy Butler's there, BAM's there. Then they're gonna try
• 1:07:31
  one last hurrah with My or with Jimmy Butler and bamandlm to me though,
• 1:07:36
  pat Riley isn't that type of guy to blow it up for one for one
• 1:07:41
  season. That guy that guy plans things out. But you don't have many
• 1:07:45
  assets there. You have Himan Hawkins, he is a good piece. Tyler
• 1:07:49
  Herro he's kind of been underwhelming after that contract. So you really have talk
• 1:07:56
  about somebody with no real direction here. The Miami Heat, They're they're in
• 1:08:00
  that situation right now too. I mean they're gonna be a good he are
• 1:08:03
  gonna be good next year, Let's not get it twisted. Yeah yeah,
• 1:08:08
  no, they're gonna be a good team. But compared to all these other
• 1:08:11
  teams in the East, where can they really compete? That's what I say.
• 1:08:15
  The Clippers. Anything to do with Kawhi, I'm already not sold on,
• 1:08:19
  but on on bias aside, This Clippers team is not gonna win a
• 1:08:24
  championship. They just need to stop trying. They're just They're just they're gonna
• 1:08:29
  They're gonna keep them so they can sell tickets when they get into that new
• 1:08:30
  arena. But right now, I just do think you need to look towards
• 1:08:34
  the future. And it sucks because the Clippers for years I thought were championship
• 1:08:42
  continuers. But they with Chris Paul, Blake, Griffin, Jamal Crawford,
• 1:08:48
  DeAndre Jordan, that squad, Matt Barnes and the crew, they couldn't win
• 1:08:53
  then, and they come now to move into a whole new era. Kawhi,
• 1:08:59
  Paul George, you get, you had SGA, trade him, you
• 1:09:02
  bring in other players, you have you have. You've had opportunities to make
• 1:09:08
  it, you just fail every single time. And that's what the Clippers are
• 1:09:11
  gonna be. Some teams are just cursed with losing. Yeah. I feel
• 1:09:15
  like this goes down as easily one of the worst trades in NBA history by
• 1:09:18
  far by far. I know there's a whole Brooklyn and Celtics thing, but
• 1:09:25
  I feel like this is way worse. This is gonna put the Clippers back
• 1:09:29
  way worse. And I think what the Brooklyn Nets did because they they recovered
• 1:09:33
  after about five six years afterwards. So that's what I'm gonna say. And
• 1:09:40
  question is Kawhi Leonard. Is he going to be remembered as a Spur,
• 1:09:46
  a Raptor or a Clipper a Spur you think so Raptors are gonna put him
• 1:09:54
  a statue of Kawhi Leonard outside of that stadium? Yeah, off of one
• 1:09:59
  season. But I just do uh. I just do think being the second
• 1:10:08
  youngest Finals MVP of all time, finishing in the top two of MVP voting
• 1:10:15
  the Zaza injury a cheap shot. Yeah, I just that's when I love
• 1:10:20
  Kawhi Leonard. But I just do think the one year with the Raptors will
• 1:10:25
  be forgotten about. People don't even remember it right now. Yesterday someone asked
• 1:10:29
  that someone, So let me tell you why. In the barbershop, they
• 1:10:32
  asked me, They're like, where was Kawhi at before the Clippers? Like
• 1:10:36
  I had that question yesterday, Yeah, and I was like he was.
• 1:10:40
  I was like, he was on the Spurs, right, I was like,
• 1:10:42
  he was on the Raptors and then the Clippers Spurs rapping, Like,
• 1:10:45
  oh yeah, I forgot he played for the Raptors. It's already a forgotten
• 1:10:48
  championship. And some people in casualize, so you know, it's just it's
• 1:10:57
  either the either a Spur Clipper. I think I think I think this kind
• 1:11:02
  of hurts Kawhi because there was so much expectations and pressure, so much.
• 1:11:08
  You've got your team all around what you wanted, and I am at all.
• 1:11:13
  I am ot at it for filling. I am out at filling.
• 1:11:15
  I am there's a little bit of your way all the way to Los Angeles
• 1:11:19
  when you could have just continued the dynasty. It's whatever, it's whatever,
• 1:11:23
  bro, But you were coming off sixty seven wins. You hurt your ankle,
• 1:11:26
  and you know we were coming off sixty seven wins up by thirty on
• 1:11:30
  the Golden State Warriors in the conference championship. You want to cry because your
• 1:11:33
  uncle says you want to go back to California and make more money. Nah,
• 1:11:36
  dog, We're in this business winning. You just know you just couldn't
• 1:11:42
  live up to Tim Duncan. That's what it was. That's kind of hard
• 1:11:45
  to live up to Tim Duncan. There to be fair, but sometimes you
• 1:11:49
  gotta do what you gotta do. LaMarcus Aldridge, I love you. Well,
• 1:11:56
  all right, we're gonna talk about these last two teams who made big
• 1:12:00
  moves, and other than that, we're going to talk about some of the
• 1:12:01
  losers so far in free agency. So these two teams right here. First,
• 1:12:06
  we're gonna talk about the Pelicans de Jontay Murray being traded to the Hawks
• 1:12:13
  for Dyson Daniels, Larry Nan Junior, and a couple first round picks.
• 1:12:16
  So they got the point guard they needed. I know, CJ. McCollum,
• 1:12:20
  he was a point guard end role for these past past year and a
• 1:12:25
  half. He's not a point how you how are you feeling about this?
• 1:12:29
  Well, he's probably gonna play the point guard here. You're not gonna have
• 1:12:31
  CJ. Play it. No, No, I'm saying CJ is not a
• 1:12:34
  point guard. Oh okay, okay, yeah, he's not a true point
• 1:12:39
  guard. CJ's a catch and shoot, get his own bucket type of guy.
• 1:12:42
  That's what he was with. That's why he worked so well with Damian
• 1:12:44
  Lillard all those years. I do think that John people are kind of not
• 1:12:46
  liking this move. I like it. I like it for both situ for
• 1:12:51
  both the Jonte and the Pelicans. Dejonte Depelicans are already a good defensive team
• 1:12:57
  with the Herb Jones, Zion went healthy, yonis valid, Tuan Is,
• 1:13:00
  brandon Ingram can defend when needed. CJ McCombs the only week link on that
• 1:13:03
  starting five, I think. But de Jontay immediately brings passing and defense anywhere
• 1:13:09
  he goes. And then on the bench, they already have Josly Alvarado,
• 1:13:12
  one of the best point defenders in the entire NBA, and they have they
• 1:13:15
  have Trey Murphy a couple other good pieces. So the Pelicans team is gonna
• 1:13:19
  be quite the sleeper for me. The only thing that weighs on entirely once
• 1:13:24
  again is the health of both brandon Ingram and Zion Williamson. When are we
• 1:13:29
  gonna see it pan out with them two being healthy on the floor together.
• 1:13:31
  We'll just we'll never know until it happens. But de Jonte immediately makes his
• 1:13:35
  team a strong candidate for me this year going into next season, I'll say
• 1:13:42
  this, if healthy, if healthy, yeah, oh yeah, okay,
• 1:13:45
  yeah, no question. If if healthy, that's the biggest that's the biggest
• 1:13:49
  thing. But what I'm gonna say say here is that with de Jontay Murray
• 1:13:55
  here, I know there's been rumors already, I would prefer brandon Ingram to
• 1:13:59
  be gone with with de Jonty Murray here because you have herb Jones and you
• 1:14:05
  have Trey Murphy here, who can go into that starting lineup, which I
• 1:14:10
  feel like would fit better with Dejontay and Zion because it's more spacing. Brandon
• 1:14:15
  Ingram, he's not this knockdown three point shooter, and you don't have Jonas
• 1:14:19
  Valentiutnis no more because he just signed with the Wizards. I feel like I
• 1:14:25
  didn't know that, Yeah, you could get a five for Brandon Ingram.
• 1:14:28
  There's a market. Don't come through like that, I guess, yeah,
• 1:14:32
  yeah, no, So and then Brandon Ingram. He may be tall,
• 1:14:35
  but he doesn't play no defense. So I feel like you could have Herb
• 1:14:40
  Jones, you could have Trey Murphy there because they've really developed, and you
• 1:14:45
  could go get a center. I feel like if you get a nice center
• 1:14:47
  here, then you could be really cooking with something. So I feel like,
• 1:14:53
  even if Brandon Ingram stays on this team, I still expect this team.
• 1:14:59
  I don't know. It is crowded West. I'll say a playoff team.
• 1:15:01
  I'm not gonna say a top four seed or whatever because playing a playing
• 1:15:06
  team, but it's just too crowded. What this West is the eighth or
• 1:15:13
  ninth spot. I can see them getting right there. Yeah, yeah,
• 1:15:15
  I see seven or eight seed right here. Not because it's gonna be underwhelming,
• 1:15:19
  just a competitive, competitive West. But another team that really made moves
• 1:15:26
  here was the Orlando Magic here, so they got KCP, took them away
• 1:15:30
  from the Denver Nuggets. Then you resigned Gary Harris, Jonathan Isaac Morris Wagner
• 1:15:35
  right here, so you added a nice piece right here, and honestly a
• 1:15:40
  scary defensive backcourt of KCP and Jalen Suggs. So, like you mentioned,
• 1:15:45
  they added defense here. But Are you a little bit worried they added no
• 1:15:49
  offensive piece here after what they did last year in the playoffs A little bit
• 1:15:56
  because it's Pawlo that go to scorer win needed at certain situations. I don't
• 1:16:01
  know. I don't think I've seen that completely from him yet. They add
• 1:16:04
  a lot of good role pieces that you do need, Gary Harris, Contavious
• 1:16:09
  Caldwell, Pope both from that Nuggets from that Nuggets tree. They know how
• 1:16:12
  to play defense, they know how to play winning basketball when needed on coming
• 1:16:15
  off the benches. That's that's gonna go a long way for them with role
• 1:16:18
  players. They have a solid team, but there's no superstar. There's not
• 1:16:23
  a single superstar on this basketball team. Superstar hurt that hurt superstar stars and
• 1:16:31
  superstars. No, I get you, I get you, I get you.
• 1:16:33
  Hollo ain't there yet. He's not there yet. I think until I
• 1:16:38
  see that signature win, that signature game, that signature series, I want
• 1:16:44
  to see that first or if all NBA team, that changes my Okay,
• 1:16:47
  okay, okay, question question. I know this is off topic. Is
• 1:16:51
  Jason Tatum a superstar? No, he doesn't have that signature game, he
• 1:16:57
  doesn't have that signature. He's a superstar. He's a superstar, but he's
• 1:17:01
  an overrated superstar. He's he's Kawhi Leonard. There we go, let's put
• 1:17:05
  him right there. I just wanted to hint at that because I know we
• 1:17:10
  don't talk about I'm a superstar. Tim is a superstar, Jaylen Brown is
• 1:17:13
  a superstar, I think. But they're not better than some of these other
• 1:17:16
  superstars. I'll just put that out there. They're good together as a tandem.
• 1:17:21
  What are we talking about right now? We talk about that magic right?
• 1:17:26
  No, I just I just want to set you up. I'm not
• 1:17:28
  gonna lie. I kind of set you up here. No, but Polo
• 1:17:31
  ban Carroll, you already know he's one of my favorite players. He's one
• 1:17:34
  of my guys. I feel like it is risky putting this all on Agner's
• 1:17:39
  already signing deals. Bro. I didn't think he was that old already.
• 1:17:43
  Yeah. I know. No, but I'll say this, Paulo ban Carroll,
• 1:17:47
  if he continues to develop offensively, I know he'll he'll be the only
• 1:17:53
  guy as far as that could get you buckets on this team. But all
• 1:17:57
  these role players you're surrounding him with, it could be really damn scary.
• 1:18:00
  It could be really scary. And I feel like he's gonna take that jump
• 1:18:04
  next year. I honestly think Paula ban Carroll he's gonna finish with the All
• 1:18:09
  NBA team this year. I'm saying maybe second or third. I'm not gonna
• 1:18:13
  say first, that's gonna be too big of a jump, but I think
• 1:18:15
  he's gonna make a jump up there. And I feel like they're setting themselves
• 1:18:20
  up slowly but surely to we're in that brink of okay, if we add
• 1:18:25
  a second star, then we're gonna be up there contending. So they're just
• 1:18:29
  a couple of pieces away. But okay, as far as some teams that
• 1:18:35
  haven't made any real moves here, the Los Angeles Lakers, the Golden State
• 1:18:41
  Warriors, the Miami Heat, the Milwaukee Bucks, the Denver Nuggets. Out
• 1:18:47
  of all of these teams right here who have not made moves and who are
• 1:18:51
  looking to contend or make playoff runs, who's been the most disappointing here?
• 1:18:58
  In all seriousness, I think the Warriors are also in a situation where they
• 1:19:03
  know it's kind of passed them already to win a championship. So I'm not
• 1:19:08
  gonna say them the Lakers. The Lakers. Everyone knows they have to make
• 1:19:14
  a certain move. They need to bring in somebody that's a little bit better.
• 1:19:16
  But the different Nuggets need to make a move, and they need to
• 1:19:19
  make it immediately. I will say this, Jamal Murray's hurt most of the
• 1:19:24
  time. Yeah, you can only rely on Nikola Jokic so much before teams
• 1:19:30
  start taking advantage. And I and I truly mean this. The Timberwlves exposed
• 1:19:35
  them this year. They show that they that the Nuggets were vulnerable, that
• 1:19:41
  they don't have that third option who can take over games Michael Porter Junior until
• 1:19:46
  he learns to develop his game completely more and be the guy that a lot
• 1:19:50
  of people expected him to be before he got injured, coming before he got
• 1:19:56
  injured in college. They need to They need to find someone else that can
• 1:20:00
  shoot, that can that can take over games, because you can't rely solely
• 1:20:04
  upon those two guys night in and night out to take over certain situations.
• 1:20:09
  I understand Aaron Gordon has turned into a great role player in this NBA.
• 1:20:14
  Michael Porter Junior has developed into whatever situation he wants to do with the catch
• 1:20:18
  and shoot, the getting to the Rack when he needs to just an offensive
• 1:20:24
  player, a rebounder. But they need another guy. They need to bring
• 1:20:28
  in someone else, and that's maybe where Jimmy Butler might come in. The
• 1:20:30
  Nuggets don't need draft picks right now. The Nuggets there, they've already won
• 1:20:34
  a championship, they already have the three time MVP. They already have the
• 1:20:39
  role player who they just signed to a really big extension with Jamal Murray,
• 1:20:44
  who's also a star in his own right. Yeah, they need someone else,
• 1:20:46
  and I do think the different Nuggets need to make a move because the
• 1:20:49
  West is gonna catch up to them really quick, and they already have.
• 1:20:53
  I feel like some teams have surpassed them in the West. Yeah, they
• 1:20:57
  have the Thunder that's easily. The Thunder have easily surpassed them. Lose he
• 1:21:01
  is gonna hurt a lot. The Timberwolves have surpassed them, because I do
• 1:21:04
  think they're just gonna develop into a lot more teams are catching up really fast
• 1:21:09
  that the Mavericks might have surpassed them. Yeah, exactly. It just shows
• 1:21:14
  you how quick after winning the championship we're the year before it. Just if
• 1:21:18
  you don't make a move, you're screwed, and like you were saying,
• 1:21:21
  KCP, that's a big loss. You're only real perimeter defender who really hit
• 1:21:28
  Jamal Murray, And you need a perimeter defender when you're facing the carrier,
• 1:21:31
  Irving Luca A. Shay, You're facing those guys on a night to night
• 1:21:35
  basis, Anthony Edwards, and not even including some of these lesser, lesser
• 1:21:41
  teams down or down in the West. You have the Dejonte Murray's, you
• 1:21:45
  have a Steph Curry, a darn Fox. So in Nikola Joki is not
• 1:21:50
  like he's this monster interior defender. That's more Aaron Gordon's job. But even
• 1:21:56
  at that, you can't depend on him to be the back line of the
• 1:21:59
  defense the entire time. So what we already saw, we already saw what
• 1:22:03
  the Timberwls will do when you take Jamal Murray out the equation, when you
• 1:22:08
  make him rattled, when you double team, and when you when you play,
• 1:22:12
  when you pick him up ninety feet. We saw what happened to that
• 1:22:15
  Denver Nuggets team and it wasn't very good things. You need someone else to
• 1:22:17
  take the load off, Yeah, no, exactly, And Christian bron he's
• 1:22:23
  not going to be the answer for this team. No, he's never going
• 1:22:26
  to develop into that type of player. Sorry, he's just not that.
• 1:22:29
  He would have already done it. Yeah, yeah, no question. And
• 1:22:32
  there's been rumors about Russell Westbrook joining this team. Nikola Jokic wants him.
• 1:22:38
  But I don't know how many times people are gonna make this mistake. Russell
• 1:22:42
  Westbrook, he's one of my favorite players. But Lebron made this mistake.
• 1:22:46
  Chris Paul, he made this mistake. James Harden made this mistake as far
• 1:22:50
  as playing with I don't know not Chris Paul kind of worked out a little
• 1:22:54
  bit. Yeah him, they never played together. No, they never played
• 1:22:58
  No, no, no, yeah, they never played. And then James
• 1:23:00
  Harden as far as making the same mistake. As far as relying on Russell
• 1:23:04
  Westbrook in the playoffs, that is not gonna work. His game just does
• 1:23:09
  not translate to a playoff setting. It does not. He could be a
• 1:23:14
  key role player, he could be that, but he's not going to be
• 1:23:16
  your answer for losing KCP. He's not can win you games and get you
• 1:23:20
  to the playoffs, but you need someone else in the playoffs. Russell Westbrook,
• 1:23:27
  he's somebody who's a floor riser. He can make a bad team look
• 1:23:31
  average, but he can't make We've seen him elevate teams tremendously in his career,
• 1:23:39
  especially with the Washington Wizards when they won like what like twenty two straight
• 1:23:42
  games when he joined, Yeah yeah, they barely missed the playoffs. And
• 1:23:46
  that was because he joined late, yeah exactly. So he could rise a
• 1:23:51
  floor. He could make a bad team look average, but he can't make
• 1:23:55
  a good team a championship team. That's the biggest thing he can't put.
• 1:24:00
  He's not the over the top guy where it's like, Okay, we got
• 1:24:02
  our guy. So but I'm gonna say right here, I'm gonna say it's
• 1:24:09
  between the Bucks and Lakers. For me, the Bucks, they were expected
• 1:24:12
  to make all these moves, especially Chris Middleton, he's much older. Bobby
• 1:24:16
  Portis, he's older, and you're not getting any younger Brook Lopez he's gonna
• 1:24:21
  need a contract soon. So not making any moves around Giannis. It's it's
• 1:24:29
  real hesitant because same thing in the West. Everybody's getting better. You could
• 1:24:34
  say the Celtics are clearly better, the Sixers are clearly better. You could
• 1:24:38
  say the Knicks they're clearly better. And you could say the Pacers who beat
• 1:24:43
  them last year, bearing without Giannis, you could argue that they they are
• 1:24:47
  better. So it's just the Bucks they need to make moves, especially after
• 1:24:54
  signing Damian Lillard last year. But that's not even. But that's not gonna
• 1:25:00
  let the Lakers get away with what they've been doing. Lebron James, your
• 1:25:03
  best player on the team, in my opinion, still said he's willing to
• 1:25:08
  take a pay cut up to twenty million for a mid level exception, or
• 1:25:12
  you could sign somebody off the street right now, and you still haven't done
• 1:25:15
  that. The only person you've resigned was Max Christi on a four year deal.
• 1:25:20
  And you know what is really doing. What that's doing, that's putting
• 1:25:25
  more pressure on JJ Reddick. That's all that's doing. You're saying, Okay,
• 1:25:30
  well this team was fine, just running back. It's just a coach
• 1:25:32
  that was a problem. You're not helping out the coach here. You're only
• 1:25:36
  making it worse on him. Or if it doesn't go as well as you
• 1:25:41
  expected, then there's gonna be potentially firing talks getting rid of him. So
• 1:25:48
  those two teams, I know, the Nuggets, that's definitely a strong case
• 1:25:53
  right there, but they kind of get a pass because they just won the
• 1:25:57
  championship recently. These teams, the Lakers and both, it's been a little
• 1:26:00
  bit. It's been three years for the Bucks, it's been four years for
• 1:26:03
  the Lakers. So it's only gonna get worse and worse as it goes.
• 1:26:09
  You have older stars. You have Damian Lillard who's older, ad is only
• 1:26:13
  getting older, Brons only getting older, so the clock's definitely ticking on them.
• 1:26:18
  But I don't know if you want to say anything else about this free
• 1:26:24
  agency right here before we get into our last topic here, Nah, I
• 1:26:28
  just do think there's a couple more players that are out there that you make
• 1:26:30
  decisions. So I think we covered the important the important stuff right now.
• 1:26:36
  There's more to come, for sure, but I think we're good to move
• 1:26:40
  on to the next topic. Yeah, and then before we move on officially,
• 1:26:47
  just a couple of the free agents that are available. You have a
• 1:26:50
  Damar DeRozan, you have a Tias Jones, you have a Buddy Hill who's
• 1:26:56
  available. So some of these guys, even though it seems like the market
• 1:27:00
  dried up, there's still key pieces that you could add to this team who
• 1:27:04
  are good role players. But like you're saying, let's move on to this
• 1:27:09
  last topic, Josh, and it's time. It's time to do it.
• 1:27:13
  It's been a while. Free agency pretty much happened, the draft pretty much
• 1:27:16
  happened, we saw the finals. It's time to give a top twenty list
• 1:27:21
  of the best NBA players right now. So I don't know if you want
• 1:27:28
  to start from one to twenty or twenty to one. Here, let's do
• 1:27:31
  twenty to one, Okay, So I'll let you go first. I'll let
• 1:27:39
  you list your twenty first, go ahead at the twentieth best player in the
• 1:27:44
  entire NBA with the big drop Damian Lillard. I think Damian Lillard at this
• 1:27:49
  point in his career, we can we can safely say he's not the same
• 1:27:54
  guy he used to be, but he's still a top twenty player in the
• 1:27:57
  NBA. Yeah, he's coming off a reason where he averaged twenty four points,
• 1:28:00
  four point four rebounds, and seven assists. But the the Bucks didn't
• 1:28:05
  just live up. They didn't live up to their potential what we thought they
• 1:28:08
  were gonna be. Adding Damian Lillard. There was games where he took over
• 1:28:11
  where where he was that clutch player where he used to seeing but we're used
• 1:28:15
  to seeing that. I just don't. I just think at this point in
• 1:28:17
  his career, the time has passed him to be that that guy on a
• 1:28:23
  contending team. He's still a great player. But for me, that's why
• 1:28:27
  he's the twenty the best player because there just hasn't been growth. Yeah,
• 1:28:31
  okay, so I left Dame off of my list. He's barely He's on
• 1:28:36
  the honorable mentions here. He's around the Polo PG BAM Jamal, Kyrie Dearn
• 1:28:44
  in my opinion, But I'm gonna have Jimmy Butler here twenty. So Jimmy
• 1:28:49
  Butler again, regular season stats, they really don't match how good of a
• 1:28:54
  player he really is. I guess that's just me giving him the benefit of
• 1:28:58
  the doubt here. But again, he is a two way player. He
• 1:29:00
  is somebody who can turn it up when he needs to. And I feel
• 1:29:05
  like if he's traded to any team in this next month or so, he
• 1:29:11
  would instantly make somebody championship contenders because he's that damn good of a player.
• 1:29:15
  So that's why he's twenty for me. All right. At nineteen, I
• 1:29:23
  have Kyrie Irving coming off his scoring, his lowest scoring output in the last
• 1:29:30
  I think seven years. But I do think he played his role tremendously for
• 1:29:34
  this Dallas Mavericks team, averaging twenty five points, five rebounds, five point
• 1:29:40
  to assist. He showed in the playoffs that he's still that guy that he
• 1:29:45
  can still show up when it matters most when. But in the in the
• 1:29:49
  finals, he was missing. He was missing in that championship finals, and
• 1:29:54
  it's part of the reason why this Mavericks team couldn't compete, couldn't compete in
• 1:29:59
  reality versus the Boston Celtics. But Kyrie Irving is still top five finisher in
• 1:30:04
  the entire NBA. He's still that future Hall of Famer that we all know.
• 1:30:10
  It's just that some of these guys have passed him in talent, are
• 1:30:14
  not in talent, but passed them in what they can do on a consistent
• 1:30:16
  basis. Kyrie Irving, he's a little slow at times in the first quarter,
• 1:30:21
  waits to the second, in the first half, waits to the second
• 1:30:24
  half to get it going, or his vice versa. I just do think
• 1:30:27
  he's still a great player in this league. But for me, he's nineteenth
• 1:30:30
  in the NBA So, like I mentioned Martin Luther Irving, he doesn't make
• 1:30:35
  my list. He doesn't make my list on this one. But I'm gonna
• 1:30:41
  have right here somebody who's kind of if he about and he could be higher
• 1:30:48
  if he was healthy. I'm gonna have Zion Williamson here. Zion whenever he
• 1:30:54
  did play last year, other than the n Season Tournament, he looked like
• 1:31:00
  one of the best players on any given night. And the reason for him
• 1:31:03
  being this low is just injury concerns. If he happens to stay healthy,
• 1:31:09
  he could easily be in the top ten list. But that's that's the reason
• 1:31:14
  he's at nineteen for me. And he could do anything. He's a great
• 1:31:18
  defensive player. He got a lot better facilitating and you just it was on
• 1:31:25
  full display against the Lakers in the playing tournament, where if he needs to
• 1:31:31
  take over a game, he has that capability and he has that firepower.
• 1:31:35
  So that's why he's nineteen for me. I was gonna say something else,
• 1:31:40
  but no, yeah, I know. For me. At number eighteen,
• 1:31:44
  I have mister Tyres Halliburton. He produced his second best scoring output barely twenty
• 1:31:50
  point seven to twenty point one points in his entire NBA career, he made
• 1:31:55
  his All NBA, he made the All NBA third Team All Star his second
• 1:31:59
  appearance, and plus he had his career high in assist with almost nearly eleven
• 1:32:03
  assists per game. I do think he's stepping up pretty big for this for
• 1:32:09
  this Indiana Pacers team. He's the leader of that team. There was I
• 1:32:13
  do think if they had him versus the versus the Boston Celtics, that series
• 1:32:18
  could have looked a lot different. I'm not saying they win, but if
• 1:32:21
  they had him in certain crunch time moments, I do think that there's a
• 1:32:25
  different outcomes in some of those games. And I do think he can jump
• 1:32:29
  way up next year in this list if he starts producing more on the offensive
• 1:32:31
  end. Scoring wise, he's already great passing of that scoring can go up.
• 1:32:36
  He can rise a lot on this list. I think he has a
• 1:32:39
  lot of potential, and for me, he's the eighteenth best player in the
• 1:32:42
  entire NBA. Okay, okay, I like I like that pick. But
• 1:32:46
  right here, I'm gonna go kind of with the same reasons for my last
• 1:32:49
  guy. I'm gonna go Donovan Mitchell here. Donovan Mitchell. At first,
• 1:32:55
  I was thinking about putting him around the fifteen range somewhere around there. But
• 1:33:00
  it's just again, injury concerns this guy. He's really an offensive threat here,
• 1:33:06
  and he's somebody that could drop fifty points on any given night. But
• 1:33:13
  it's just if you stay healthy, that's the biggest concern. That that's really
• 1:33:17
  the biggest concern for me. And I'm gonna go ahead and list seventeen right
• 1:33:21
  here because I have Tyrese Haliburton here for much of the same reason you said.
• 1:33:27
  The reason why I have ty rees over Donovan Mitchell is I feel like
• 1:33:31
  Donovan Mitchell he has a better team constructed around him compared compared to Tyres as
• 1:33:38
  far as talent wise, and Tyrese he was able to do a lot more
• 1:33:43
  and I don't feel like Donovan Mitchell would have been able to do the same
• 1:33:46
  thing. So that's why I have Tyrese seventeen and Donovan Mitchell eighteen. Okay,
• 1:33:54
  for me, number seven, the seventeenth best player in the entire NBA,
• 1:33:59
  I have Kawhi Leonard. Kawhi Leonard, I do think at this point
• 1:34:02
  helped to fix factors a lot into my decision. I still think twenty three
• 1:34:06
  point seven points per game. I do think that should be up in his
• 1:34:10
  career. He's already played enough to kind of be that takeover type of guy.
• 1:34:14
  I just feel like sometimes he just lacks that and where he's the guy
• 1:34:17
  that's taken over the games entirely. He's still top five defensive player in the
• 1:34:23
  entire NBA, coming off a season where he averaged one point six stills per
• 1:34:29
  per game, and I think I believe that was top five in the entire
• 1:34:31
  NBA. He made his made the second second All NBA Team NBA the second
• 1:34:39
  What am I trying to say? The NBA All NBA second Team? He
• 1:34:42
  made the All NBA second Team, and coming off yet another All Star,
• 1:34:45
  future Hall of Famer, I'll put it out there. I hate the guy,
• 1:34:48
  but he's there. He's a future Hall of Famer. Seventeenth best player
• 1:34:53
  in the entire NBA for me Kawhi Leonard. So I feel like these next
• 1:34:58
  two they go hand in hand for me, and I feel like this kind
• 1:35:01
  of brings back a full circle here. The sixteenth best player right here is
• 1:35:08
  Kawhi Leonard, which you mentioned injury that played a lot of factor in here,
• 1:35:13
  but fifteen it's official in my opinion, your guy Victor Winbin Yama.
• 1:35:19
  As of right now, I would easily I would easily take Wimby over Kawhi
• 1:35:25
  right now. I wouldn't have expected this much of a jump from Wimby.
• 1:35:30
  I would have said, maybe he's on that honorable mention the twentiest range,
• 1:35:35
  but no, he's definitely up there. Winby. He's there's only so much
• 1:35:41
  you could say. It's just great defensively, and if he gets even a
• 1:35:45
  tad bit better offensively, he could be a top ten player easily in this
• 1:35:49
  league. And that's without him reaching his ceiling offensively. All right, for
• 1:35:58
  me, my sixteenth best player in the entire NBA, I'm gonna go with
• 1:36:02
  mister Jalen Brown. I understand. There's he he shows up when it matters
• 1:36:09
  the most. He does get a lot of looks where he's it's a lot
• 1:36:11
  of one on one play compared to Jason Tatum, who gets double team quite
• 1:36:14
  a bit. Jalen Brown averages twenty three points per game, five point five
• 1:36:18
  assists, three point six five point five rebounds, three point six assists.
• 1:36:24
  But I do think he's that second piece. He's a superstar in this league.
• 1:36:29
  I think he should he should be higher. I just think some of
• 1:36:30
  the guys individually are better than Jalen Brown that I have above him. But
• 1:36:35
  he does his role tremendously. He's a reason why they won this. Without
• 1:36:41
  Jaylen Brown, there's no Celtics Championship. And I do think he he's arguably
• 1:36:45
  higher, But for me, I'm gonna put him at sixteen. He's coming
• 1:36:47
  off an All Star game, great defender. That's why Jaylen Brown number sixteen
• 1:36:53
  for me. My fifteenth best player that I have in this NBA is Devin
• 1:36:58
  Booker. We can talk all of we can talk about Devin Booker not being
• 1:37:01
  that great of a defender, but dem he can score the basketball. Devin
• 1:37:05
  Booker average twenty seven points per game this year. I think. Do think
• 1:37:10
  that has a lot to do with having Kevin Durant on your team, who
• 1:37:14
  also is a probably arguably the greatest scorer of all time. Yeah, we
• 1:37:18
  have and I do think Devin Booker can be better. I do think he
• 1:37:25
  has a potential better. He's shown that he can be better. There's a
• 1:37:27
  reason why I have the guy above him at fourteen. Above him, it
• 1:37:30
  is because I feel like at times Devin Booker fails to takeover basketball games when
• 1:37:34
  needed, and he being that guy, the guy that the Sun has built
• 1:37:40
  their teams around, you have to be able to do that. And for
• 1:37:43
  me, he's number fifteen. That's what. So Devin Booker fifteenth best player
• 1:37:47
  in the NBA for me, So right here for number fourteen, I'm gonna
• 1:37:53
  say Jalen Brown right as of right now. I'm not talking about as far
• 1:37:58
  as wise future contexts, but as far as as of this year, Jalen
• 1:38:03
  Brown or Wimby. Obviously Wimby he gives more defensive presence than what Jaylen Brown
• 1:38:10
  does. But Jaylen Brown just what he was able to do offensively, and
• 1:38:14
  in those crunch time situations, I would take him over over Wimby, not
• 1:38:20
  all time or not in the future context. Once again, just as of
• 1:38:25
  right now, and how he played then number thirteen. This was tough for
• 1:38:30
  me. I was flipping these back and forth, so I wanted to put
• 1:38:32
  Jaylen Brown ahead of him, but I couldn't. It's gonna be Devin Booker.
• 1:38:38
  Devin Booker. Again, he's just a pure score. And I know
• 1:38:43
  he had some injuries this year, but when he did play, this is
• 1:38:46
  somebody I'm going to give the benefit of the doubt compared to zion In,
• 1:38:50
  Donovan Mitchell and Kawhi Leonard. Because this all right for me. Number fourteen.
• 1:39:15
  I have the Spider Donovan Mitchell. And here's why I have Donovan Mitchell,
• 1:39:19
  But Devin Booker I think they have. They come from the same mold,
• 1:39:23
  they come from the same cloth, Pierce scoring basketball. They can get
• 1:39:27
  theirs whenever they need it. But for me, what separates the two is
• 1:39:31
  that even in the law, I understand he lost some of these games in
• 1:39:34
  the playoffs, but Donovan Mitchell took over basketball in some of those games.
• 1:39:39
  He took over that whole team when the other team win. The rest of
• 1:39:42
  his teammates weren't scoring shit. Let's just be honest. He he scored,
• 1:39:45
  I believe in one of the in one of the games against the I want
• 1:39:48
  to say Orlando Magic, he scored all twenty four points in that fourth quarter,
• 1:39:54
  coming off a fifty point game, and then coming back again the next
• 1:39:57
  guy next night. Next night they went out score forty plus. He shows
• 1:40:00
  up, he does his job, he knows what he has to do.
• 1:40:04
  I believe sometimes he overshoots, I really do believe that. But when he's
• 1:40:09
  on. He is on, and he can score with the best of them.
• 1:40:12
  And that's why I think Donovan Mitchell for me is fourteenth, the fourteenth
• 1:40:15
  best basketball player in the entire NBA twenty seven points. I did almost averaging
• 1:40:19
  twenty seven points, much like Devin Booker. I don't think there's a there's
• 1:40:23
  a clear separation between the two, but based off the takeover that I've seen
• 1:40:27
  that I saw from him in this playoffs, Donovan Mitchell is above him for
• 1:40:30
  me. I he does get that slack that I gave him earlier in this
• 1:40:33
  pod where I'm saying he's taking the Donovant, the Donovant, the Damian Lillard
• 1:40:38
  approached, where you just sign a contract, no one expects you to win
• 1:40:41
  a championship. I wish he would just say, send me to a contender
• 1:40:45
  I want to win now, like the Los Angeles Lakers, who could use
• 1:40:48
  him very much. But I understand some some guys just don't want it like
• 1:40:54
  that. And as Donovan Mitchell, but he's the fourteenth best player in the
• 1:40:57
  entire NBA. For me, I'm just saying, bro, I need I
• 1:41:00
  want him to go chase a ring dog like no one. The Cavaliers aren't
• 1:41:04
  winning a championship. They're not. What did you did you already say your
• 1:41:08
  thirteenth best player? Oh let me let me give him mine, mister Jalen
• 1:41:15
  Brunton, put it on my back. That's who I'm That's who I'm gonna
• 1:41:17
  have right there. Well pause pause, This is in the context of me
• 1:41:28
  being Jalen Brunson put all the pressure on Nope, no, nope, Okay.
• 1:41:35
  So Jalen Brunton, coming off of what could have been an MVP season
• 1:41:40
  for him, second second team All NBA All Star bro did it all for
• 1:41:45
  his for the New York Knicks, averaging twenty almost twenty nine points per game,
• 1:41:49
  seven assists, to really do it all player for them. The Knicks
• 1:41:54
  are not in the situations they are without Jalen Brunson, and he could arguably
• 1:41:58
  be top ten for I think anyone in this today's NBA. He showed that
• 1:42:03
  he's a superstar in this league. He's the right now, the savior of
• 1:42:08
  New York. I do think there's a lot more that he can show,
• 1:42:11
  and I think he will. And for me, Jalen Brunch is the thirteenth
• 1:42:14
  best player in the entire NBA that should be the title of the pod.
• 1:42:20
  Alright, number twelve for me, I'm gonna have mister Anthony Davis right here,
• 1:42:25
  coming off of First Team Defense, All Defensive, First Team, All
• 1:42:29
  NBA, second Team, All Star finished fourth, and Defensive Player of the
• 1:42:31
  Year voting. He did it all for this Los Angeles Lakers team last year.
• 1:42:35
  Especially, this is one of the first years he had where he stayed
• 1:42:38
  complete, almost completely, as healthy as he could be. He stayed as
• 1:42:42
  healthy as I think. He played seventy two games this year, which is
• 1:42:45
  a big jump from what Anthony Davis is used to doing, and he averaged
• 1:42:50
  two point three blocks. He was there. He's a great defender year in
• 1:42:55
  and year out. He hasn't lived up to that, to that best player
• 1:42:59
  in the NBA potential that he did have. But he has always been one
• 1:43:02
  of the best players in the NBA and he continues that with me. That's
• 1:43:08
  why he's the twelfth best player in the NBA for me. And let's get
• 1:43:10
  into the disrespect right now. Let's do it. Hold on, let me
• 1:43:13
  pull this guy up, missing out on my top ten because he is not
• 1:43:16
  a top ten NBA player. Give me mister Jason Tatum right here. Jason
• 1:43:24
  Tatum finished sixth in the MVP voting All NBA First Team All Star. He's
• 1:43:28
  a great player, superstar in this league. He's just not better than the
• 1:43:31
  guys above him. That's just me. You average twenty six points per game.
• 1:43:35
  Cool, You have Jaylen Brown right next to you, You have the
• 1:43:40
  best defense in the entire NBA. You have the highest three point shooting team
• 1:43:45
  in the entire NBA around you. But that's cool and all. You won
• 1:43:49
  a championship. I'll give you the commitment. I said, prove it to
• 1:43:53
  me. You proved it to me. But I still will not put you
• 1:43:56
  above some of these players because I'm taking these players above you night in and
• 1:43:59
  night out. That's just what I'm gonna do. I understand that he's gonna
• 1:44:04
  be an MVP favorite immediately going into next season, that that's what happens when
• 1:44:09
  you win a championship. But to me, I do think a lot of
• 1:44:13
  it has to do with having a guy next to you who's Okay, I
• 1:44:17
  don't know where Fonso just went, so I'm gonna keep talking. Let me
• 1:44:23
  see real quick, let me text this fool. I'm back, right,
• 1:44:25
  Yeah, You're back? What just happened? They? Yeah? Yeah,
• 1:44:30
  I know. Okay, did you just that? Know that? Interrupted my
• 1:44:34
  rant. I understand that Jason Tatum has has developed into this great player,
• 1:44:44
  But to me, he's he's a He's not a true number one on your
• 1:44:51
  basketball team type of player. I don't think he is. I do think
• 1:44:55
  that it takes a team to be around him. I do think Jaylen Brown
• 1:44:58
  is that piece that propels him forward. Who when you do have when you
• 1:45:00
  do get double team as a Jason Tatum, you have that player that can
• 1:45:02
  take over as well. So for me, Jayson Tatum is eleventh best basketball
• 1:45:08
  player in the entire NBA. Okay, Josh, you always put me in
• 1:45:13
  these tough ass situations. You make me defend players. I'm just saying what
• 1:45:17
  the minority feel. All I'm just saying is that you make me defend players
• 1:45:24
  I don't want to defend. You did this in the NFL season. You
• 1:45:28
  may defend Dog. You made me defend Brock Purty. You know, damn
• 1:45:33
  well, I did not want to defend Brock Purty. And now I'm having
• 1:45:38
  to do this ship with Jason Tatum. Man, Jason Tatum, they're his
• 1:45:42
  same cloth. What can I say? Clearly, clearly a top ten player.
• 1:45:46
  And is it, Yes, clear is a top ten player. And
• 1:45:53
  I just think that Jason Tatum, again, his scoring in the playoffs might
• 1:45:59
  not have been inconsistent all you think else everything else in basketball that he does,
• 1:46:05
  as far as passing, rebounding, as far as defensively, he could
• 1:46:12
  guard one through four, sometimes even the center. He was guarding the center.
• 1:46:15
  Sometimes he was guarded. He was guarding a Miles Turner, he was
• 1:46:20
  having to go on to a Derek Lively and stopping the pick and roll.
• 1:46:26
  He was guarding some of these guys world's big time plays. It's just a
• 1:46:30
  scoring outburst. Weren't happening like they like they were for some of these other
• 1:46:34
  guys that are probably in your top ten. And again, he's a top
• 1:46:40
  ten player. He won the championship. I'm not gonna say he's the best
• 1:46:44
  player in the league because there there's instances where saying, Chauncey Billups got a
• 1:46:50
  ring two. That's all I'm saying. That's all I'm saying. He's he's
• 1:46:56
  player on his team. You know, damn well, he's better than Chauncey
• 1:46:59
  Billups. You know that, Well, he's better than Chauncey Phillips. Quick
• 1:47:02
  play man, quit play it. But all I'm gonna say is this,
• 1:47:08
  as far as people who are on the very opposite end, Alfred this specifically
• 1:47:14
  talking to you if you listening to this right now. Jason Tatum, He's
• 1:47:19
  definitely not the best player in the world, I'll say that, but he's
• 1:47:21
  definitely a top ten player in the world. That's how I'm gonna put it,
• 1:47:27
  Because there has been instances where in twenty eleven, Dirk won the championship,
• 1:47:31
  but nobody said he was better than Lebron, Paul Pierce won the championship,
• 1:47:35
  and oh wait, but nobody said he was better than Kobe. Isaiah
• 1:47:40
  Thomas won the championship in eighty eight, eighty nine, nobody said he was
• 1:47:45
  better than Magic or MJ. Hakeem won the Hakeem won the championship in ninety
• 1:47:51
  five ninety six, but when Jordan came back, nobody said Hakeem was better
• 1:47:57
  than Jordan. So there's been instances all across the NBA where a guy wins
• 1:48:03
  the championship and he's not the best player in the league. So we just
• 1:48:09
  have to find a balance in the NBA. No, it's just there's there's
• 1:48:18
  either disrespect or too much praise. I'm the man in the middle here.
• 1:48:21
  I'll let you do what you gotta do. Hey, all right, all
• 1:48:26
  right, get in. You want to tell you did you already say the
• 1:48:29
  tenth best player? No? I had to go on, you go go
• 1:48:33
  My tenth best player here is gonna be Steph Curry. Steph Curry. He's
• 1:48:40
  the last one that makes the top ten. I know he didn't have a
• 1:48:43
  good, good ending to those last about ten to fifteen games, and he
• 1:48:48
  was kind of hurt. But I still feel like he could be a Clear's
• 1:48:53
  Day number one. Somebody would depend on game game in and game out,
• 1:48:58
  and he could produce for you and you could potentially win a championship with this
• 1:49:01
  guy. But number nine, it hurt me to put this over Steph Curry.
• 1:49:09
  I had to put Jalen Brunson over Steph Curry. I had to put
• 1:49:13
  him over and just maybe this is recency biased, but what he was able
• 1:49:17
  to do in the playoffs, and there was a bunch of injuries, there
• 1:49:20
  was nobody else on offense or offensively that that could help out Jalen Brunson as
• 1:49:28
  far as shot creation, and he led them to the to the semi Finals,
• 1:49:32
  where obviously they got beat but in seven games against the Pacers. So
• 1:49:39
  that's my nine to ten. I didn't want to put Brunson over Steph,
• 1:49:44
  but I feel like he just has to be after the season he proved compared
• 1:49:49
  to Stephs all right, the tenth best player and better than Jason Tatum,
• 1:49:55
  who also I do think is better than five players above him. I have
• 1:50:00
  to be non biased in certain situations where I have to play devil's as to
• 1:50:04
  get here because because you know, someone just don't want to hear the truth.
• 1:50:11
  But the tenth best player in the entire NBA, who should really be
• 1:50:14
  the sixth best player in the entire NBA, Mister Victor winban Yama. Victor
• 1:50:19
  winbin Yama, night in night out, day in day out. If I'm
• 1:50:25
  starting a franchise, if I'm picking first overall in a draft, I'm taking
• 1:50:30
  him over Jason Tatum any day of the week. And that's Victor winbin Yama.
• 1:50:33
  The best defensive player in the entire NBA is not even close. It
• 1:50:39
  hasn't been, and we're looking in the past. I don't know how many
• 1:50:43
  years. No one's even close. There's not a player who has came into
• 1:50:45
  the NBA and affected defensive end like he has when he's off the court.
• 1:50:49
  The Spurs are the twenty fifth best team in the NBA or the Yeah the
• 1:50:54
  twenty six, twenty fifth best team in the entire NBA. Defensively, when
• 1:50:58
  he's on the court, they're fourth and net defensive rating all the way around.
• 1:51:02
  Let the NBA and blocks by far, averaging three point six let the
• 1:51:09
  NBA and steals plus blocks. He averaged one point two steals per game,
• 1:51:13
  had twenty one point four points the entire season as a rookie, eleven rebounds
• 1:51:18
  plus. Let's talk about that last month of the season. Let's talk about
• 1:51:20
  the second year jump in the second half of his rookie year. Talk about
• 1:51:25
  a guy that took it to took the beat the Denver Nuggets, beat the
• 1:51:30
  beat the Minnesota Timberwolves, beat the Phoenix Suns three times, finished the season
• 1:51:35
  seven and four, beating a bunch of teams in the playoffs when they were
• 1:51:40
  playing fully healthy rosters. This dude is gonna be a problem for years to
• 1:51:44
  come. He's gonna be the best player by year three and this year he's
• 1:51:47
  already top ten for me, and no one can argue with me about it.
• 1:51:51
  I will sit here and argue for days about who is I'm not taking
• 1:51:55
  Jason hit him over Victor Winbinyama. If you do, you're crazy. If
• 1:51:59
  you're taking Jayson Tatum or Victor Wimbinyama for your team, you're insane. And
• 1:52:02
  he's the tenth best player in the entire NBA. For me, again,
• 1:52:06
  all right, this is this is not this is not real. This is
• 1:52:14
  no, this is a bias podcast. No, this is this isn't a
• 1:52:16
  bias. Take Jason Tatum your NBA. Jason Tatum, as of right now,
• 1:52:25
  is a better basketball player than Victor Winbinyama. I guarantee you you give
• 1:52:30
  Victor Winbinyama some of those teams that Jayson Tatum had in the past, he
• 1:52:34
  don't lose championships. Again, there again, it's different, it's a different
• 1:52:41
  personnel, different everything. As far as Jason Tatum, he may not be
• 1:52:46
  as good as Victor winmbin Yama defensively, but he's up there. I would
• 1:52:53
  argue he's a top five defender in the league. He is, but there's
• 1:52:57
  like and then there's everyone else else when it comes to defense. Fair fair,
• 1:53:02
  but he is a better, a way better offensive threat than Victor wimbin
• 1:53:08
  Yama. We'll see. I will say that he is a better passer,
• 1:53:13
  he is a better scorer as of right now, and then that's not necessarily
• 1:53:16
  where it closes the gap. I'm not saying there's like this big ass gap.
• 1:53:21
  I'm saying it's close. It's close, right, It's close, and
• 1:53:27
  it's just I'm not trying to jump the gun on Wimby. I feel like,
• 1:53:32
  no, gun, I know what I saw. No, I know
• 1:53:36
  what I saw too. It looks like something that's generational. But also you
• 1:53:42
  don't want to jump the gun too quick, Josh. Just like fantasy football,
• 1:53:45
  whenever you see one guy have a damn great year, like DeVonta Freeman,
• 1:53:51
  you saw him have one good year in twenty sixteen, like, oh
• 1:53:55
  yeah, this is the guy. Yeah he's gonna be great. He was
• 1:53:59
  in his third, fourth year. Then what do you do after that.
• 1:54:01
  I'm not saying he's gonna be a bust. But we're talking about DeVonta Freeman
• 1:54:06
  and Victor win Yava. Has not the same type of players. No,
• 1:54:12
  I'm just saying there's there's times where a guy his first or second Again,
• 1:54:18
  I'm not saying this dude's gonna be a bust. But there's times where their
• 1:54:24
  rookie year is so amazing it's hard to do that again. And on a
• 1:54:30
  consistent basis. I think he can give it that dude, you give a
• 1:54:32
  dude, Chris Paul, I don't know. I don't know. Again,
• 1:54:39
  I'm gonna get worse. I think I think he can make the jump.
• 1:54:42
  I'm eighty ninety percent sure, but there's always that ten percent chance, that
• 1:54:47
  twenty percent chance. That's why he bought him out six for me, that's
• 1:54:51
  why he's not number six, he's number ten. Like, what are we
• 1:54:56
  even talking about right now? Bro? All right, all right, I'm
• 1:55:00
  being I'm being modest here. I'm the one being modest in this in this
• 1:55:03
  year, in this ranking, and is here all right? Who's your ninth
• 1:55:11
  best player, Josh, Who's your best Anthony Edwards? Who we talked about
• 1:55:15
  in the past. Who I would take to start my team, Anthony Edwards
• 1:55:18
  or Jason Tatum? I said, Anthony Edwards, and I'm gonna stick with
• 1:55:21
  it. The ninth best player in the entire NBA is Anthony Edwards. And
• 1:55:26
  it's because what he showed in that playoffs. I understand it was a rough
• 1:55:29
  It was a rough going versus the Dallas Mavericks. Dallas Mavericks were just hitting
• 1:55:31
  on all cylinders in that and but Jay Anthony Edwards didn't play bad by any
• 1:55:35
  standards in that series. For himself, He's coming off a second team All
• 1:55:42
  NBA All Star selection, averaging twenty six points per game, five point one
• 1:55:45
  assists, four point eight the for five point four rebounds. But plus,
• 1:55:51
  I think what he does on the defensive end goes on said a lot,
• 1:55:55
  just because having Rudy Gobert on your team, having Cat who's kind of developed,
• 1:55:59
  who's developed into a good defensive player, they it kind of goes left
• 1:56:02
  on said what he did on that end of the court. And I'm taking
• 1:56:04
  Anthony Anthony Edwards to the ninth overall best player in the entire NBA, and
• 1:56:09
  I do think he's gonna make a big jump next year. Okay, now
• 1:56:12
  let me ask you this question. What's the difference between Anthony Edwards having this
• 1:56:16
  stack team around him where he's just allowed to score the basketball compared to where
• 1:56:24
  Jason Tatum he's just allowed to facilitate the basketball and play great defense. What's
• 1:56:30
  the what's the difference between that. I know there's not that big of a
• 1:56:33
  gap, but how does that make him better than Jason Tatum? Does that
• 1:56:40
  make some better than Jason Tatum? Is that I don't know why I trust
• 1:56:45
  Anthony Edwards more than I trust Jason Tatum, all right, because it took
• 1:56:48
  after all the teams that even though Tatum just won a chip eight years in,
• 1:56:54
  how many seven years in? How many chances did he get to get
• 1:56:57
  here? How many conference finals has he been to that he didn't get it
• 1:57:00
  done. I'm just saying I think Anthony Edwards given getting ari to a conference
• 1:57:04
  finals. When he gets to fucking five and doesn't reach a championship, then
• 1:57:09
  we can have the conversation about it. But like, just like Jason Tatum
• 1:57:14
  got the chance to reach four or five conference finals and not win ship,
• 1:57:17
  we should give Anthony Edwards the same chance. And that's why I'm taking Anthony
• 1:57:20
  Edwards above Jason Tatum. Okay, I'm just I'm just wondering. I have
• 1:57:26
  questions here. Again, it sounded like I'm with Jason Tatum advocate. I'm
• 1:57:30
  not that my my eyes, I understand, I hate people that make the
• 1:57:35
  eye test, but I'm taking that guy that can fly out the building and
• 1:57:40
  do everything offensively that Jason Tatum can do as compared to Jason Tatum. But
• 1:57:45
  Jason Tatum, I would say, Jason Tatum difference between me and yours.
• 1:57:49
  I make my list compared to who I know will be better and the who
• 1:57:53
  I think will be better career wise as compared to you. I think that's
• 1:57:58
  what I do. I just can't see. I can't on take that out
• 1:58:01
  of my brain. Yeah, when I'm making it's not like you're projecting like
• 1:58:06
  ten years. You're just projecting a little bit. I get what you're saying.
• 1:58:11
  I get what you're saying. I guess mine just more Basically, I
• 1:58:15
  think Anthony Edwards is a better basketball player than Jason Tatum at there, if
• 1:58:18
  we're going to compare at points in careers like okay, I think, okay,
• 1:58:23
  I see what you mean. Edward is a better player. Okay,
• 1:58:28
  Okay, I can see what you mean. I can see what you mean.
• 1:58:30
  But number eight right here, I have Anthony Davis here, Anthony Davis.
• 1:58:35
  This was definitely a bounce back year for him as far as defensively and
• 1:58:41
  then what he showed in the Denver series offensively, he showed that he's still
• 1:58:45
  one of the most talented big men in the league. If it wasn't for
• 1:58:48
  Nicola Joki, Johannison, Embiid, he'd be He'd be something we've never seen
• 1:58:54
  before. He was the first to really be this big man in a that
• 1:59:00
  could score in bunches. And if he can do this these next couple of
• 1:59:04
  years where he could have this defensive capability of what he's always been capable of
• 1:59:10
  Garden arguably one through five and then putting up thirty points a night, then
• 1:59:15
  it's going to be really scary for any team. And I feel like Anthony
• 1:59:19
  Davis he's a better player on the Lakers, but Lebron's more valuable. Does
• 1:59:24
  that make sense? Yeah, so I know I said earlier Lebron he's the
• 1:59:30
  more valuable player, but Anthony Davis he's a better player. That's why I
• 1:59:32
  have him eight and number seven right here. For much of the points that
• 1:59:38
  you talked about, I have Anthony Edwards here seven, but I'm not putting
• 1:59:43
  him into that top five range until he has proven something as far as potentially
• 1:59:51
  championship wise, or there's an outlier here. So that's why I have Anthony
• 1:59:56
  Edwards seven. But much of the same reasons you talked about. All right,
• 2:00:00
  for me, the eighth best player I have is Kevin Durant. At
• 2:00:04
  ever, he's Kevin Durant. I don't know what I have to explain.
• 2:00:09
  He's just doing what Kevin Durant does. You know it has twenty seven points
• 2:00:14
  seven, six point six rebounds, five point zero sis. I will say
• 2:00:17
  that these Phoenix Suns players, that Devin Booker and Kevin Durant super great.
• 2:00:23
  But I even said last year, the roster they built around these guys is
• 2:00:26
  not ready to win. They're they're not a win It's not a winning roster.
• 2:00:30
  You can have two of the best scorers of all time, but if
• 2:00:33
  you don't got defenders, if you don't got rebounders, if you don't got
• 2:00:36
  competent role players, they're not gonna win shit. And I don't think that
• 2:00:39
  should affect how good they are as a player. So I have I still
• 2:00:44
  have Kevin Durant for me at the eighth spot, and I don't think I
• 2:00:48
  have to get into too much to explain about Kevin Durant. But yeah,
• 2:00:53
  if we're gonna and then but the seventh spot, it might be a little
• 2:00:56
  controversial just based off like he's getting older, but give me Lebron James.
• 2:01:00
  That to the seventh best player. I don't think it's controversially he's Lebron James,
• 2:01:03
  but yeah, at the seventh, at the seventh spot, I have
• 2:01:05
  Lebron James. I understand, dude was thirty nine years old and averaging twenty
• 2:01:11
  five point seven seven point three eight point three, nearly a not nearly a
• 2:01:15
  triple dough. But he always puts up numbers like that, and he's still
• 2:01:18
  doing it seventy one games this year, still still being a health, still
• 2:01:24
  playing healthy, still keeping that body maintained. I do think he has maybe
• 2:01:30
  one one or two more years like this left in him. Yeah, but
• 2:01:34
  I still do think he is enough to win, to win major games.
• 2:01:38
  I do think that the rosters that they have built around him in LA have
• 2:01:41
  been in combatant. People will say that he's legm or whatever, but come
• 2:01:46
  on, like, there's only a certain amount he can possibly do. The
• 2:01:49
  the guys still have to sign the checks to get these players, and I
• 2:01:53
  just don't think that the rosters they've built around have really fit his play style.
• 2:01:57
  Yeah, exactly, And again with Kadi and Lebron, I'm not mad
• 2:02:01
  at those because I have him eleven and twelve. But I said, at
• 2:02:06
  any given moment or any given stretch, they could easily be a top five
• 2:02:12
  player in the league. So you having them here at seven and eight,
• 2:02:15
  it's hard to disagree with because when they are, when they are on that
• 2:02:20
  level, then they could be They could be up there with a Yannis Luka
• 2:02:27
  Jokic, whoever it is. But all right, for number six and five
• 2:02:31
  here, I was debating back and forth here, so I kept saying,
• 2:02:36
  no, no, it's this guy, No, it's this guy. So
• 2:02:41
  number six, I'm gonna have Joel Embiid here. Joel Embiid he should be
• 2:02:45
  in that top three range, and it's just injuries that always kill him.
• 2:02:53
  People forget he was on a stretch this year where he was averaging almost forty
• 2:02:58
  points a game. There was a stretch throughout then throughout the first two three
• 2:03:03
  months where he was more likely to have a fifty point game than to have
• 2:03:09
  less than thirty points in a regular season. That's something that we haven't seen
• 2:03:15
  in a while. That's James Harden esque numbers in his prime. That's Kobe
• 2:03:18
  Bryant numbers in his prime. Joel embiid. His biggest thing is if he
• 2:03:25
  stays healthy, he is arguably one of the best players in the league.
• 2:03:29
  He just won the MVP of the Year before last, so again, health
• 2:03:35
  or including health, He's a sixth best player in the league, which is
• 2:03:39
  saying a lot on how good he really is. And number five, I
• 2:03:43
  have Jason Tatum. I know you hate it, but Jason Tatum, he's
• 2:03:47
  my fifth best player in the league. He's somebody again scoring it didn't happen
• 2:03:53
  for him. Scoring it didn't happen for him. And I'll say this,
• 2:03:57
  Jason Tatum, he's number five for me. But there's a clear tier between
• 2:04:01
  number five and the rest of these guys that I have listed. If that
• 2:04:05
  makes respect that I can respect that. So five and ten I have the
• 2:04:11
  guys that I know you're gonna have above him. I'm taking clear cut above
• 2:04:14
  anyone else except for Wimby. Yeah, so that that's what I'm saying.
• 2:04:19
  Jason, there's Jason Tatum. Then there's a major drop off in the tier
• 2:04:25
  or major major tier break because these guys are just clearly better. So that's
• 2:04:30
  my six and five. Okay, for my six, I have the baby
• 2:04:36
  face Assassin. I do still think that he has that He has that,
• 2:04:42
  but that what am I gonna say? He still has that power up whenever
• 2:04:45
  you need it. He can take over a game. He can go scorch
• 2:04:48
  earth from the three point line because he is the greatest shooter to ever live.
• 2:04:53
  Twenty six point four points. He had it. It's not We're not
• 2:04:56
  It's just Stephen Curry who's having to do a lot. I will say,
• 2:04:59
  so his efficiency isn't the same. They're still trying to build a roster around
• 2:05:03
  him with these aging guys going out. I think they waited way too long
• 2:05:06
  to do it, and it's kind of hurting him. I do think having
• 2:05:10
  a Jordan Poole still on his side would have helped a lot more than having
• 2:05:13
  a Klay Thompson on his side last year. That's just me being completely honest.
• 2:05:16
  I do think the situation has to get a little bit better. But
• 2:05:19
  I still do think that he's that top ten player in the entire NBA history.
• 2:05:25
  He's sixth for me. I'm taking him over Lebron at this point in
• 2:05:27
  their careers, So for me, he's six. But much like you said,
• 2:05:31
  there's a clear gap from the five to four. There's a clear gap
• 2:05:34
  from the sixth and everyone else. For me and that number five, I'm
• 2:05:39
  going to have Joel Embiid. I understand the health is a big play,
• 2:05:43
  but there's no one better offensively in the entire NBA than Joel Embiid when he's
• 2:05:48
  healthy. Joel Embiid was more than likely to score forty than he was thirty
• 2:05:53
  to start this season, and yeah, that was insane and yeah weird.
• 2:05:58
  And then thirty four points seven points when he was on the floor, eleven
• 2:06:02
  rebounds, five point six assists, A former MVP, he can do it
• 2:06:06
  all. It's just the health holds him back so much. And it's been
• 2:06:12
  like that. It was expected entering his career, and it's still like that
• 2:06:15
  in his career. Who knows how much longer we have with Joel Embiid,
• 2:06:17
  because the injuries will add up and they will pile up. But as of
• 2:06:21
  right now, I do think he's the fifth best player in the NBA.
• 2:06:25
  Yeah, that's that's really hard to disagree with. And I feel like this
• 2:06:30
  is the first time we're gonna agree on the top four. In my opinion,
• 2:06:33
  I'm not sure we have an order. Yeah, I'm pretty sure the
• 2:06:39
  players are going to be the same. Yeah, the players are going to
• 2:06:42
  be the same, but I don't know about the order. But number four
• 2:06:46
  right here, this is the only caveat that's in my top twenty list as
• 2:06:53
  far as somebody who's not necessarily unproven but hasn't won it yet at the biggest
• 2:06:59
  level where has consistently won it, And that's just because he's young. And
• 2:07:02
  that's Shay gilgis Alexander Shaye. What he's been or what he did this last
• 2:07:09
  year, averaging over thirty points a game and then just being a menace defensively
• 2:07:14
  as well. There's no real weakness in his game, and he's only going
• 2:07:18
  to enter his prime. And one thing that I really liked in this series
• 2:07:24
  or in the last playoff series I know they didn't win against some MAVs,
• 2:07:28
  is that if he's the only number one or the only guy who could create
• 2:07:32
  off the dribble or be the only shot creator on a team because Genleen Williams
• 2:07:35
  struggled, he can't do that for you. And he's only going to get
• 2:07:41
  better. He's only going to be a better three point shooter. And I
• 2:07:45
  believe he's twenty five, twenty six years old, and I really think there's
• 2:07:49
  no true flaw in his game and that's why he's four. Again, I
• 2:07:55
  couldn't put him ahead of these three guys, but yeah, yeah, for
• 2:08:01
  me, number four is also s g a exact same reasons. Defensive minutes
• 2:08:05
  led the NBA and Stills per game let the second youngest team in the NBA
• 2:08:09
  to the number one seed in the Western Conference. That's enough to That's enough
• 2:08:13
  to prove to me that you're that guy. I understand that he hasn't won
• 2:08:16
  a championship, conference finals, not there, but to do that second youngest
• 2:08:22
  team in the entire NBA and to lead them to the first seed, I
• 2:08:24
  think that's enough as winning right now, that's enough of That's the same as
• 2:08:28
  winning a championship for me. For for a guy this young leading a team,
• 2:08:33
  it's not it's not gonna count historically as anything in his debate, but
• 2:08:37
  as of right now, to put him in the top five, that's what
• 2:08:39
  makes him number four for me. We can talk about the points, the
• 2:08:43
  rebounds, the assists, finished top three in the m v P coming off
• 2:08:46
  of his breakout season, what more? What more could you want from the
• 2:08:48
  from the dude? That's why he's number four. For me, I'm gonna
• 2:08:52
  go into my number three. I'm gonna go with Jannis at the koombro Uh
• 2:08:58
  coming off his best offensive season of his entire career, which is insane fifty
• 2:09:03
  eight percent from the field. That's insane work for the amount of shots that
• 2:09:07
  this guy takes because he is the number one option all time player thirty point
• 2:09:13
  four points, eleven point five rebounds, six point five assists. Talk about
• 2:09:16
  a guy that gets it done and still being that that defensive minute that he
• 2:09:20
  has been his entire NBA career. He's a two time former MVP. It
• 2:09:24
  doesn't get better than that. For Giannis. The only thing that's missing is
• 2:09:28
  that second championship. So I'm gonna have Giannis here number three. And I
• 2:09:33
  think we talked about it before. I think it's Giannis. He's made five
• 2:09:39
  consecutive first Team All NBA's. I'm not exactly sure. It's Fire and Luca.
• 2:09:43
  That's where we were talking about him and Luca. Yeah, yeah,
• 2:09:45
  him and Luca, And I don't and I don't see that stopping anytime soon.
• 2:09:48
  This guy, he's in the middle of his prime right now and he
• 2:09:54
  is the most unstoppable force right now in the NBA. If you had to
• 2:09:58
  compare somebody as far as to Shack esque type game, it would be,
• 2:10:03
  honest, just what he's able to do in transition and nobody is really able
• 2:10:09
  to stop him in the paint if he really wants a bucket. So yeah,
• 2:10:13
  that's number three here, go ahead and get into your number two here.
• 2:10:18
  Number two for me, I think we can probably both agree. I
• 2:10:20
  don't know. I'm gonna go with Luka Doncics, right. I do think
• 2:10:24
  he may have taken that step to he's arguably better than the Joker, arguably
• 2:10:28
  better. Yeah, but the thing is he just doesn't get the same amount
• 2:10:33
  of love. Thirty three point nine points is insane work leading the entire NBA
• 2:10:37
  nine point two rebounds, nine point eight assists, a thirty four point triple
• 2:10:41
  double to average on the Season's that's better than Russ. That's insane. That's
• 2:10:46
  that's yeah. I'm taking that every day of the week. Scoring Champ led
• 2:10:50
  team to the NBA Finals sixteen six time All NBA player. I understand he
• 2:10:54
  had a rough finals. He was banged up, he was doing everything.
• 2:11:00
  He can't just score offensively. He messed up quite a bit on his own
• 2:11:03
  right, defensively with the fouls, all that complaining. But to me,
• 2:11:07
  you don't get better than Luka Doncics in history. Sometimes there's just some players
• 2:11:11
  that are just different. And he's the second best player in the entire NBA
• 2:11:15
  for me, and if he would, if he if there wasn't for this
• 2:11:18
  other guy, he would be the clear cut number one. Yeah, and
• 2:11:22
  I have Luca here number two. But I'm gonna say this. I know
• 2:11:26
  that the last time we saw Luka Doncic, it wasn't that good of what
• 2:11:31
  would usually see. But let's not get it twisted as far as him being
• 2:11:35
  one of the best players in our opinions, the second best player in the
• 2:11:39
  league. He may have some defensive issues, but they wouldn't have not made
• 2:11:46
  the finals or went on this stretch late in the year if it wasn't for
• 2:11:50
  Luka Doncic, Luka Doncic, if it wasn't for Nikola Jokic honestly winning the
• 2:11:56
  championship last year, he would have been clear cut MVP. He would have
• 2:12:01
  any other year in NBA history other than the select few of James Harden or
• 2:12:07
  potentially a Michael Jordan in eighty nine or some some ridiculous historic season. Luka
• 2:12:16
  Doncic would have won the MVP. It just happened he ran into Nikola Jokic.
• 2:12:20
  So and again bringing that up, Nikola Jokic, he is the best
• 2:12:24
  player in the league. And I'll say this, I don't know if you
• 2:12:28
  agree with this. If Luca won the championship this year, he would have
• 2:12:33
  taken that number one spot away from Nikola. That's just me, I believe.
• 2:12:37
  So I understand I didn't give the same my Jason Tatum bias is there,
• 2:12:43
  But the championship for Luca outweighs the championship for Jason Tatum. Barnum Ye,
• 2:12:48
  Jason Tatum. Jason Tatum's just not He's not gonna be remembered as the
• 2:12:54
  same type of player Luka Doncic is gonna be remembered as. And that's and
• 2:12:58
  I understand Jayson tatumy went two morechampionships. But Luca, Luca, he is
• 2:13:05
  going so good. Yeah, he's just so good at basketball that some things
• 2:13:09
  just can't be denied. We have those type of players sometimes, and he's
• 2:13:13
  that type of player. And as far as yokis being the best player in
• 2:13:16
  the NBA, respect is where respect is due. You know, there's twenty
• 2:13:20
  there's some guys that you just he's gonna be a top He's already a top
• 2:13:24
  fifteen player in the NBA history by now. If he's not your tripping,
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  I don't see how a three time MVP averaging trip almost triple doubles in finals,
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  MVP Championship, He's done it all being a second round pick. He's
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  lived the past. Any there was no expectation. He made his own expectations.
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  Let's just yeah, say that he's the best player in the entire NBA.
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  Him and Luca are on a race right now, and it is gonna
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  be a cool one to watch for because they're around the same age. We're
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  in a good type of basketball until Wimby takes over and then actually, my
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  real number one here is Patrick Williams. I forgot to tell you Patrick Williams.
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  He's he's the best player in the league right now. Jones, you
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  know what, Nah, if that mine is minus Buzellis, that's the best
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  player in the league. He's gonna take that. He hasn't done anything wrong,
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  Yeah, exactly what has he done wrong in the NBA? Nothing?
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  No? Yeah, So okay, we'll just list our top ten. So
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  my top ten here, I'm not listing my top twenty all over again.
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  Oh yeah, no no, no, no, no, no no no.
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  So I have Steph, Jalen Brunson, a D, Anthony Edwards,
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  Mbing, Jason Tatum, Shaye, Jannis, Luca and Jokics. That's my
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  top ten after the finals. All right, my top ten is the Joker,
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  Luca, Jannis, Shay, Joel, NBI, Steph lebron Kad And
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  I'll stop my trolling. I'll put Jason Tatum at nine and Wemby then Anthony
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  Edwards. Jayson Tatum's the ninth best player in the NBA. I'm just trolling.
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  I just wanted to make a scene. Now we have clickbait. I'll
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  say, you don't nobody's gonna hear the ending of this, so they're gonna
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  be like, oh, Josh, he's blah blah blah. It's like you
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  gotta listen to the ninth best player in the NBA, Anthony Edwards. I'll
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  put him at eleven, but I'm taking Winby over Jason Tatum no matter what.
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  Still, i don't care what anyone tells me. I'm being I'm being
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  humble. I'm not putting Victor Wimanamo at number six. Okay, so he's
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  number ten. Yeah, I know it took a lot for you, Josh,
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  not to put him number six. No, no, I know it
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  took a lot. No, I'm not that crazy. Give me two more
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  years and then I'll put him at number one. Yeah, right, if
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  if he even happened, if he if he if he goes, if he
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  goes twenty thirteen five, and let's say like close to the same amount of
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  blocks and wins Defensive Player of the Year, maybe finish it. He would
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  have to finish number one in NBP because there's no way he averages that,
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  and the Spurs are not a top six seed in the You'll look at Luca.
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  We'll look at Luca, okay, if he finishes first or second in
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  MVP voting plus Defensive Player of the Year, and then we get to a
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  a division what is it, what's it called semi semi If we get to
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  a semi finals. Yeah, bro, don't even argue with me. I
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  feel like that's the best case scenario. That's best. Don't even argue with
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  me, especially taking this squad to a champion, to a the semi finals.
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  Don't even argue with me, I would not hear the end of it.
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  I'm not going you would argue with the bro I would not hear the
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  end of it. No, but now there will be no humbleness coming out
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  of his mouth. There will be none. Man, I need one of
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  my teams to get good already, damn it. I need one of my
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  teams to get good. My team to three pet man, we'll see,
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  we'll see, we're gonna. We're gonna talk about football soon. No,
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  but anything else you want or No. We have our so called MVPs,
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  so called mvpre Now, yeah, we do them every single week. It
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  could be any This one is a little bit different because it's the off season,
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  so it has to get a little bit creative here. So let's give
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  it my so called MVP of the week, mister Bryce Hoppell for three to
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  two legend broke the Olympic Trials record Commendment bro eight hundred meter eight hundred meter
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  qualified boy from Midland, Texas go into the Olympics one point one seven eight
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  hundred meter run. I don't think you'll understand how fast that is. The
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  eight hundred from Midland, Texas from our roots. Boy is out there go
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  win the gold. Baby. Yeah no, that's that's just something that's that's
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  ridiculous. But one person I'm gonna give high school coach in high school.
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  Oh okay, okay, a dog dog Yeah no, but all right,
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  right here, So I actually watched the gymnastics meet here and she's actually qualifying.
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  I'm gonna say, some O Biles here, some O Biles. It's
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  Olympic time, so some mo Biles. She's you want to talk about somebody
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  who's a clear cut goat. That's that's exactly her right there. And I'm
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  pretty sure she's gonna come home with the with the gold. So I feel
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  like that's I feel like gymnastics basketball again. You already went on your rat
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  about soccer. And then there's there's just plenty of things that we're the only
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  thing that we can't dominate in is track. That's the only thing we dominate
• 2:19:00
  the sprints, yeah, but everything else, everything else, we dominate.
• 2:19:05
  The shot put. There're no one's touching us in the shop. But we
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  have the world record holder, and the guy in second is American, and
• 2:19:13
  he would be the world record holder if our world record holder wasn't in existence.
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  And then we'll finish second or third in the pole vault. Because monod
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  Plants is just the greatest track and field athlete to ever live. We want
• 2:19:26
  to talk about the greatest athletes from LSU. Let's talk about Monodor Plant is
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  not Angel and Reese bro come on and then and then I think we'll swimming.
• 2:19:39
  We're always pretty good at Caleb Dressel is still there, so yeah,
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  I think we'll be all right. I'm just trying to think, like basketball,
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  we better win. Yeah. I don't know if we're going to be
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  in the Olympics. I don't know if we'll be in the Olympics for soccer.
• 2:19:58
  I don't know. I don't know if we're gonna No, are women
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  better win? Get that Megan Rappino out of here? All right? Yeah,
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  I think we're I think we're gonna have a good Olympics. I just
• 2:20:13
  I hope we think. So here are the DoBeS that we should get.
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  We should win a good amount. Let's just say that, yeah, we
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  should win a good amount. But yeah, no, those are so called
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  AVPs of the week. Josh, do you have anything else to say before
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• 2:20:39
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