Latest / Jennifer with Coffee / Jennifer with Coffee - Episode 25 - Reset your life with CEO and Author Marnie Schneider.
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- 0:00[music]
- 0:10SPEAKER_01: Welcome to Jennifer with Coffee, a mindset podcast for people who are looking for real change.
- 0:17SPEAKER_01: I'm Jennifer Lauer, writer, yogi, and fitness fanatic.
- 0:21SPEAKER_01: Lately, I've been having lots of coffee meetups, long,
- 0:25SPEAKER_01: honest conversations that delve into mindset,
- 0:28SPEAKER_01: identity, choices, and habits that shape our lives.
- 0:32SPEAKER_01: I kept thinking how I wanted to share these conversations.
- 0:35SPEAKER_01: So here we are.
- 0:38SPEAKER_01: Each episode moves in three beats.
- 0:41SPEAKER_01: An inspirational story,
- 0:42SPEAKER_01: an interview with thinkers,
- 0:44SPEAKER_01: builders, athletes, and artists, people who want to share their own transformations.
- 0:50SPEAKER_01: And we'll end with a brief meditation to practice calming the nervous system.
- 0:55SPEAKER_01: If you've been connecting with the stories and conversations here,
- 0:59SPEAKER_01: I've also written some fiction that explore emotional spaces.
- 1:02SPEAKER_01: One is an AI dystopia, and the others are part of a paranormal mystery series.
- 1:07SPEAKER_01: So if you're ever curious, you can find them on my website, jenniferlauer.com.
- 1:12SPEAKER_01: Today's inspiration is based on a piece that I put in my newsletter, The Delicate Papers.
- 1:19SPEAKER_01: It's called The Joy Wave.
- 1:21SPEAKER_01: I was inspired to write it this one day that I took my children to the beach
- 1:25SPEAKER_01: and my oldest really didn't want to go to the beach and gave me all of these reasons
- 1:29SPEAKER_01: and complaints.
- 1:30SPEAKER_01: But of course, when we got there, he ended up having a great time.
- 1:34SPEAKER_01: He said one of the most memorable things only children can say in this poetic,
- 1:41SPEAKER_01: I always get a big response from people, which just makes my heart happy.
- 1:45SPEAKER_01: You can join my podcast.
- 2:00SPEAKER_01: Substack, which is called The Delicate Papers for free.
- 2:04SPEAKER_01: You just put your email in or you can do a paid subscription.
- 2:07SPEAKER_01: I put my writings on there,
- 2:09SPEAKER_01: poetry, philosophy, my journey writing TV and film, my journey writing books.
- 2:15SPEAKER_01: Also, this podcast is through that Substack, Jennifer with Coffee.
- 2:20SPEAKER_01: This is the piece called The Joy Wave.
- 2:23SPEAKER_01: My mom said she was taking us to the beach.
- 2:26SPEAKER_01: I didn't want to go.
- 2:28SPEAKER_01: Because I don't like getting salty and sticky.
- 2:31SPEAKER_01: And sand somehow always gets inside my sandwich.
- 2:35SPEAKER_01: She said we'll have fun.
- 2:37SPEAKER_01: When we got there, I forgot I didn't like the beach.
- 2:40SPEAKER_01: Right away, we spotted an upside-down crab shell.
- 2:43SPEAKER_01: My brother and I raced against the ocean.
- 2:46SPEAKER_01: We even saw surfers.
- 2:48SPEAKER_01: I told my mom they looked like they were riding joy waves.
- 2:52SPEAKER_01: She agreed.
- 2:53SPEAKER_01: I found a long spiral of seaweed that looked like pasta.
- 2:57SPEAKER_01: My brother lost his shoes and then found them again.
- 3:00SPEAKER_01: When we ate our sandwiches,
- 3:02SPEAKER_01: seagulls surrounded us and I ate so fast I didn't notice if the sand got in.
- 3:08SPEAKER_01: Mom said it was a go time.
- 3:10SPEAKER_01: Our legs had sand coats and my eyes stung a bit.
- 3:13SPEAKER_01: When I got into my cozy seat in the car, I was tired.
- 3:18SPEAKER_01: I told my mom that I felt like a joy wave.
- 3:29SPEAKER_01: And now for the interview.
- 3:31SPEAKER_01: Marnie Schneider is the founder and CEO of Gameday in the USA,
- 3:35SPEAKER_01: a sports edutainment brand created to make reading as exciting as Gameday.
- 3:40SPEAKER_01: She's the author and creator of Football Freddy and Fumble the Dog series
- 3:44SPEAKER_01: and Baseball Billy and Bunt the Dog,
- 3:46SPEAKER_01: an officially licensed Major League Baseball book series that combines sports,
- 3:51SPEAKER_01: travel, history, culture, and literacy.
- 3:54SPEAKER_01: A Penn State Journalism graduate who began her career at NFL Films,
- 3:58SPEAKER_01: Marnie comes from a pioneering sports family.
- 4:01SPEAKER_01: Her grandfather,
- 4:02SPEAKER_01: Leonard Tos,
- 4:03SPEAKER_01: owned the Philadelphia Eagles,
- 4:05SPEAKER_01: and her mother,
- 4:06SPEAKER_01: Susan Tos Spencer, made NFL history as the league's first female general manager.
- 4:13SPEAKER_01: Today, Marnie brings together her passion for sports,
- 4:16SPEAKER_01: storytelling,
- 4:17SPEAKER_01: children, and community to inspire the next generation of readers and fans.
- 4:22SPEAKER_01: Her mission says it all.
- 4:23SPEAKER_01: When kids read, we all win.
- 4:26SPEAKER_00: Hello, Marnie.
- 4:27SPEAKER_00: I'm so glad to have you here.
- 4:29SPEAKER_00: Thank you, Jennifer.
- 4:30SPEAKER_00: Well, I am very excited.
- 4:32SPEAKER_00: And while your listeners can't see what's going on,
- 4:36SPEAKER_00: I will just give them the play-by-play that I have some very cute friends with me
- 4:41SPEAKER_00: and they happen to be four-legged.
- 4:42SPEAKER_00: So if you hear barking, it's not me, it's them.
- 4:46SPEAKER_01: That's okay.
- 4:46SPEAKER_01: We love the pups.
- 4:48SPEAKER_01: So let's jump right in.
- 4:49SPEAKER_01: Go ahead and tell us a little bit about yourself and what brought you to the work you do now.
- 4:55SPEAKER_00: I grew up in Philadelphia.
- 4:56SPEAKER_00: At the time when I was growing up, my grandfather, Leonard Toews, owned the Philadelphia Eagles.
- 5:02SPEAKER_00: And my mom, Susan,
- 5:03SPEAKER_00: after being a teacher and then going to law school,
- 5:08SPEAKER_00: she ended up becoming the first female vice president,
- 5:11SPEAKER_00: legal counsel, and general manager of an NFL team.
- 5:15SPEAKER_00: And still to this day,
- 5:16SPEAKER_00: she's the only female that's held those high level of positions
- 5:19SPEAKER_00: within professional football.
- 5:21SPEAKER_00: I had an amazing childhood,
- 5:24SPEAKER_00: very fortunate, got to travel around and see all these great cities.
- 5:28SPEAKER_00: My mom was a brilliant business person and a great mom at the same time.
- 5:34SPEAKER_00: When she retired from football,
- 5:35SPEAKER_00: my grandfather had sold What we decided to do about 10 years ago was write
- 5:41SPEAKER_00: a children's book series based on my travels and getting
- 5:45SPEAKER_00: to see all these great cities that host professional football teams.
- 5:49SPEAKER_00: So Football Freddy and Freddy is a girl and Fumble the dog
- 5:53SPEAKER_00: and Fumble really is my dog, a little rescue chihuahua.
- 5:56SPEAKER_00: Football Freddy and Fumble the dog, game day.
- 5:59SPEAKER_00: Each book takes you on a tour through a different football city.
- 6:02SPEAKER_00: And my newest book, Football Freddy and Fumble the Dog, Game Day in Miami, just came out.
- 6:06SPEAKER_00: Now we're also officially licensed by Major League Baseball,
- 6:09SPEAKER_00: and we have Baseball Billy and Bunt the Dog.
- 6:12SPEAKER_00: Same idea,
- 6:13SPEAKER_00: Baseball Billy and Bunt travel around,
- 6:15SPEAKER_00: see all the great sites,
- 6:16SPEAKER_00: and then you make your way to the stadium to cheer on the home team.
- 6:19SPEAKER_00: Because my passion is really getting kids excited about reading, playing, and being a fan.
- 6:23SPEAKER_01: I love that.
- 6:24SPEAKER_01: What made you choose books as your way to help inspire kids?
- 6:30SPEAKER_01: Were you a big reader as a child?
- 6:32SPEAKER_01: Did your mom encourage you to read?
- 6:35SPEAKER_01: Or what got you into writing?
- 6:37SPEAKER_00: So I did.
- 7:01SPEAKER_00: And we saved those.
- 7:02SPEAKER_00: They were kind of collected throughout the years and in a box.
- 7:06SPEAKER_00: I think being an only child,
- 7:09SPEAKER_00: I'm not a hoarder,
- 7:10SPEAKER_00: but I've definitely saved a lot of things that I thought were interesting.
- 7:15SPEAKER_00: And about 10 years ago, my mom was on the verge of being diagnosed with frontal lobe dementia.
- 7:20SPEAKER_00: Although we didn't know it, we just knew something wasn't right.
- 7:23SPEAKER_00: And she said, let's take out those stories that you wrote when you were a young girl.
- 7:26SPEAKER_00: Let's see if there's something there.
- 7:28SPEAKER_00: So I took some of them out.
- 7:29SPEAKER_00: They were terrible.
- 7:30SPEAKER_00: But we were like, well, wait a minute.
- 7:31SPEAKER_00: Maybe this is a good idea.
- 7:33SPEAKER_00: Put it together.
- 7:34SPEAKER_00: And so my first book, Football Freddy and Fumble the Dog, Game Day in Philadelphia.
- 7:38SPEAKER_00: Like I said,
- 7:38SPEAKER_00: Football Freddy based loosely off me and Fumble the Dog
- 7:42SPEAKER_00: and their friend Billy traveled throughout Philadelphia,
- 7:44SPEAKER_00: all the great sites,
- 7:45SPEAKER_00: the National Constitution Center, the Liberty Bell, Reading Terminal Market.
- 7:50SPEAKER_00: And then you get to see all the sites and then make your way to the stadium.
- 7:53SPEAKER_00: So history is very important, Betsy Ross House.
- 7:55SPEAKER_00: And then you make your way to cheer on the home team,
- 7:58SPEAKER_00: because I think when kids can speak sports, it really is the universal language.
- 8:03SPEAKER_00: And so getting kids, like I said, excited about reading, playing and being a fan.
- 8:07SPEAKER_00: Those are things that I believe are great coping skills that we can give children.
- 8:12SPEAKER_00: And they definitely are fun to do.
- 8:16SPEAKER_01: I love that.
- 8:17SPEAKER_01: And what a lovely legacy for your mom that you worked with her on it,
- 8:21SPEAKER_01: that she knew that you were creating this series.
- 8:25SPEAKER_00: I think so.
- 8:25SPEAKER_00: My mom is my co-author on a few of the books.
- 8:28SPEAKER_00: I mean, she was quite ill, so it was really more about just the sentimental part of it.
- 8:33SPEAKER_00: But it was something really nice that I knew that we were collaborating in our own way.
- 8:38SPEAKER_00: You know,
- 8:39SPEAKER_00: I think people that are successful,
- 8:41SPEAKER_00: Jennifer, and you'll understand this, they figure out How to make it work.
- 8:45SPEAKER_00: They just do.
- 8:46SPEAKER_00: It doesn't really matter what the impairment might be or where you are.
- 8:50SPEAKER_00: It's like,
- 8:51SPEAKER_00: I'm just going to figure it out and we're going to make it work and it's going
- 8:54SPEAKER_00: to be great.
- 8:55SPEAKER_00: And it's that positivity because you know you can do it and also figuring out how
- 9:00SPEAKER_00: to make it work.
- 9:01SPEAKER_00: And that's what I did with a bunch of books with my mom.
- 9:03SPEAKER_00: I was like, okay, she's my co-author.
- 9:06SPEAKER_00: She might have frontal lobe dementia,
- 9:08SPEAKER_00: but I know she can still understand things and can give me some tips and be able to
- 9:13SPEAKER_00: at least acknowledge what we're doing.
- 9:14SPEAKER_00: And that was also what I needed to her acknowledgement because we were so close.
- 9:18SPEAKER_00: So knowing that she knew what I was doing and knowing that she was there
- 9:22SPEAKER_00: as my constant cheerleader really helped me get through the first couple of books so
- 9:28SPEAKER_00: that I had the confidence to continue to do more.
- 9:31SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I think that's great advice.
- 9:33SPEAKER_01: When you have an idea to do something or try something,
- 9:36SPEAKER_01: you need to figure out how to do it instead of deciding if you should do it.
- 9:41SPEAKER_01: It's more about focusing on like, how do I get this done?
- 9:43SPEAKER_01: How do I make this happen?
- 9:45SPEAKER_00: My grandfather had a saying and he told me this and he said,
- 9:48SPEAKER_00: in every meeting, the question to ask is, what do I need to do to get it done?
- 9:54SPEAKER_00: And then you listen because sometimes you might not know.
- 9:57SPEAKER_00: And sometimes it might be very simple.
- 9:58SPEAKER_00: It might be more complicated.
- 10:00SPEAKER_00: But asking that question and then listening to the answer,
- 10:03SPEAKER_00: which some people often don't want to have the answers.
- 10:05SPEAKER_00: But what do I need to do to get it done?
- 10:07SPEAKER_00: And then you figure it out.
- 10:08SPEAKER_00: Then you make your roadmap.
- 10:10SPEAKER_00: You make your outline.
- 10:10SPEAKER_00: You make your business plan.
- 10:12SPEAKER_00: You just figure it out.
- 10:13SPEAKER_00: And what do I need to do to get it done?
- 10:15SPEAKER_00: And then you do it or you don't.
- 10:17SPEAKER_01: Can you tell us a little more about your grandfather?
- 10:19SPEAKER_01: How did he come to buy the Eagles in the first place?
- 10:23SPEAKER_00: So my grandfather was a really smart man.
- 10:26SPEAKER_00: We'll get to some of the other stuff.
- 10:27SPEAKER_00: He was the smart businessman, was in the trucking business.
- 10:31SPEAKER_00: It was a family business.
- 10:32SPEAKER_00: His dad started the trucking business.
- 10:35SPEAKER_00: My grandfather's brother, who was kind of the heir apparent, died of a heart attack.
- 10:39SPEAKER_00: And my grandfather,
- 10:40SPEAKER_00: although not ready for the job,
- 10:42SPEAKER_00: stepped in,
- 10:43SPEAKER_00: became the president of the trucking company and built a successful business.
- 10:47SPEAKER_00: But I will say this, that he still was probably not ready for the job.
- 10:52SPEAKER_00: He had a great vision and understanding.
- 10:54SPEAKER_00: And my grandfather,
- 10:54SPEAKER_00: despite being as what people would refer to as our town's answer to
- 10:57SPEAKER_00: the Great Gatsby, my grandfather was also a really good humanitarian.
- 10:59SPEAKER_00: And at the end of the day, he really wanted to find ways to give back.
- 11:02SPEAKER_00: And he knew that owning a football team
- 11:22SPEAKER_00: There was a ton of vanity in it,
- 11:24SPEAKER_00: but it was also a business that you could add a lot of value to the local community.
- 11:28SPEAKER_00: So I think that when there was an opportunity to buy the team,
- 11:31SPEAKER_00: people kind of thought he was crazy when he said he was going to buy a football team
- 11:35SPEAKER_00: and he had the ability to get it done, bought the team.
- 11:37SPEAKER_00: And then within a couple of years, turned the team around into a Super Bowl contender.
- 11:43SPEAKER_00: Now, it became harder to sustain that success at the team level
- 11:48SPEAKER_00: because my grandfather definitely had some addiction issues and so forth.
- 11:51SPEAKER_00: And when you're running
- 11:58SPEAKER_00: My grandfather was a visionary,
- 12:00SPEAKER_00: understood what it meant to own a team and to be a great team owner.
- 12:05SPEAKER_00: And I think to this day,
- 12:06SPEAKER_00: people still remember Leonard Toews as a great team owner for the city
- 12:11SPEAKER_00: and really making good choices for the city.
- 12:13SPEAKER_01: You said it gave him a tool into being a humanitarian.
- 12:17SPEAKER_01: What were some of his charitable contributions would you say?
- 12:22SPEAKER_00: While he owned the Eagles,
- 12:23SPEAKER_00: a player on the team named Fred Hill from California,
- 12:27SPEAKER_00: from USC, was a dual athlete, baseball and football.
- 12:31SPEAKER_00: Fred was a football player,
- 12:32SPEAKER_00: Fred and his wife Fran,
- 12:33SPEAKER_00: and they had a young daughter named Kim, and Kim was diagnosed.
- 12:36SPEAKER_00: The Delicate Papers.
- 12:57SPEAKER_00: So it's something that I'm very proud of.
- 13:13SPEAKER_00: I don't think that they really thought in 1974 that they were going
- 13:16SPEAKER_00: to open up this charity called the Ronald McDonald House,
- 13:18SPEAKER_00: a place for families to stay while their children were ill,
- 13:22SPEAKER_00: that it was going to turn into,
- 13:23SPEAKER_00: 52 years later, one of the best philanthropies in the entire universe.
- 13:28SPEAKER_00: With Ronald McDonald houses all over the world, helping families.
- 13:32SPEAKER_00: If you were to ask a family,
- 13:34SPEAKER_00: I guarantee somewhere along the way,
- 13:36SPEAKER_00: somebody has had some sort of positive interaction with the Ronald McDonald house.
- 13:40SPEAKER_00: And I'm very proud of that philanthropy.
- 13:42SPEAKER_00: And I serve on the board here in Charlotte where I live.
- 13:45SPEAKER_00: And I'm very involved with a bunch of other Ronald McDonald houses.
- 13:48SPEAKER_00: It's an incredible charity that really makes a big difference for families
- 13:52SPEAKER_00: while their children are sick.
- 13:53SPEAKER_01: Wow, it really just goes to show that gesture can turn into a meaningful legacy
- 14:00SPEAKER_01: that probably he had no idea deciding to try to help this one girl.
- 14:05SPEAKER_01: It turned out to help millions of people.
- 14:07SPEAKER_00: It has, and you know, it's interesting.
- 14:09SPEAKER_00: It's like, I love being involved in the Ronald McDonald House for many reasons.
- 14:13SPEAKER_00: Obviously, so many of my closest friends are part of the Ronald McDonald House family.
- 14:18SPEAKER_00: Also, it's part of my family legacy.
- 14:20SPEAKER_00: So if I'm gonna talk about
- 14:21SPEAKER_00: the contribution I've got 13 different Football Freddy books and we're doing more,
- 14:25SPEAKER_00: but also being involved in the Ronald McDonald House is my way of picking up
- 14:28SPEAKER_00: the ball proverbially and running with it and sustaining my family legacy.
- 14:45SPEAKER_01: I feel like I have been
- 15:01SPEAKER_00: As a mom,
- 15:02SPEAKER_00: when you have children,
- 15:03SPEAKER_00: I look at my life as kind of like, okay,
- 15:06SPEAKER_00: that was before children,
- 15:07SPEAKER_00: during children, during the heavy lifting years of children.
- 15:11SPEAKER_00: And now it's interesting, my two boys are in college and my daughter just graduated.
- 15:17SPEAKER_00: She's about to get engaged.
- 15:32SPEAKER_00: I was like, I want to do differently.
- 15:33SPEAKER_00: I'm excited to continue to write children's books and get the message out there.
- 15:38SPEAKER_00: Reinvention is a great thing.
- 15:40SPEAKER_00: And I reinvent myself every day.
- 15:42SPEAKER_00: Reinvent myself in ways that are enjoyable,
- 15:45SPEAKER_00: not necessarily where I have to completely throw away the old version because I like
- 15:50SPEAKER_00: the old version.
- 15:51SPEAKER_01: That's a really healthy way to look at life.
- 15:53SPEAKER_01: Do you have any tips for people who are maybe in a transition?
- 15:58SPEAKER_01: Like it sounds like you've gone through a lot of transitions in the recent,
- 16:01SPEAKER_01: like having the children leave and having your mom pass.
- 16:04SPEAKER_01: Those are huge life changes.
- 16:06SPEAKER_01: What has helped you maintain a steady, positive outlook?
- 16:11SPEAKER_00: My grandfather would always say, you can't live in fear.
- 16:14SPEAKER_00: I never really knew what that meant,
- 16:16SPEAKER_00: but I knew that in 2017,
- 16:18SPEAKER_00: we were living in California and I said to my kids, I'm like, you know what?
- 16:22SPEAKER_00: I think it's time to leave here.
- 16:23SPEAKER_00: And they were like, why?
- 16:24SPEAKER_00: And I'm like, because I have a book coming out.
- 16:26SPEAKER_00: My first book was coming out.
- 16:27SPEAKER_00: I'm like, I think it's time that we make a change.
- 16:30SPEAKER_00: Your question was, any tips?
- 16:32SPEAKER_00: It's really good to put yourself into situations that are safe
- 16:38SPEAKER_00: or you've done your homework, but that shakes.
- 16:41SPEAKER_00: It's good to find situations where you do your homework.
- 16:46SPEAKER_00: You have to do your homework.
- 16:47SPEAKER_00: All right.
- 16:47SPEAKER_00: I'm not saying impulsive.
- 16:49SPEAKER_00: I am not an impulsive person at all.
- 16:51SPEAKER_00: It seemed like moving three children that were teenagers across the country to
- 16:55SPEAKER_00: a place I had never lived where I didn't know anybody was a weirdly impulsive move.
- 16:59SPEAKER_00: But I knew that I had to reset everybody and reset everything in order to get things going.
- 17:05SPEAKER_00: And so I think that, you know, you can't live in fear.
- 17:07SPEAKER_00: Try things and dip your toe in the water and see what's going to go on.
- 17:11SPEAKER_00: But do your homework.
- 17:12SPEAKER_00: Don't just do it impulsively.
- 17:13SPEAKER_00: And then being like, you know what?
- 17:15SPEAKER_00: I believe in myself and having enough confidence to believe in yourself
- 17:18SPEAKER_00: that I'll make it work no matter what is a good thing.
- 17:21SPEAKER_00: And also know that whatever it is, you can always go back to it or restart it.
- 17:25SPEAKER_00: Most likely nothing's ever off the table.
- 17:29SPEAKER_01: I love that advice.
- 17:30SPEAKER_01: Shake things up.
- 17:31SPEAKER_01: Make a new choice.
- 17:32SPEAKER_01: You have to.
- 17:33SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 17:34SPEAKER_00: You have to.
- 17:34SPEAKER_00: And especially as a parent,
- 17:36SPEAKER_00: for me, it was like, okay, you know, I wanted to show my kids, it's me.
- 17:40SPEAKER_00: Like I have to show them life lessons.
- 17:42SPEAKER_00: Like you move across the country for work.
- 17:45SPEAKER_00: You move across the country for family.
- 17:47SPEAKER_00: You move across the country for romance.
- 17:49SPEAKER_00: You move across the country for whatever, just because you want a new change.
- 17:52SPEAKER_00: And like, don't be afraid of that.
- 17:54SPEAKER_00: There's so much out there.
- 17:55SPEAKER_00: Go get it.
- 17:55SPEAKER_00: Like the world is your oyster.
- 17:57SPEAKER_00: Go get it.
- 17:57SPEAKER_00: A safe risk.
- 17:59SPEAKER_00: A well put together plan and there's going to be holes in it.
- 18:02SPEAKER_00: There are.
- 18:03SPEAKER_00: I mean, I first moved here and I didn't know anybody.
- 18:07SPEAKER_00: My neighbor's gigantic trees fell on my yard and there's going to be things,
- 18:12SPEAKER_00: but whatever, you figure it out and then you become an expert.
- 18:14SPEAKER_00: I also, myself,
- 18:15SPEAKER_00: when I feel like I'm getting a little too comfortable,
- 18:16SPEAKER_00: I try to make things less convenient for myself.
- 18:18SPEAKER_00: It kind of gives me a way to reset myself.
- 18:37SPEAKER_00: Because I like challenging myself and that's how you get better.
- 18:41SPEAKER_01: That's really wise that you consciously think about that because you're exactly right.
- 18:47SPEAKER_01: You can't really change or become better without friction, right?
- 18:52SPEAKER_01: It's just like growing a muscle.
- 18:54SPEAKER_01: You have to strain it and injure it almost.
- 18:57SPEAKER_01: And then that scar tissue grows your muscle.
- 18:59SPEAKER_01: We have to have that resistance, that friction in order to recover.
- 19:04SPEAKER_01: And then you grow from that recovery.
- 19:07SPEAKER_01: It's really interesting that you do that consciously.
- 19:09SPEAKER_01: That, oh, my life needs more challenges.
- 19:12SPEAKER_00: I do.
- 19:13SPEAKER_00: I'm at a place in my life now where I can choose the challenges in some ways,
- 19:17SPEAKER_00: but then some just naturally happen.
- 19:20SPEAKER_00: But it also makes you more interesting.
- 19:22SPEAKER_00: I mean, that's the thing.
- 19:23SPEAKER_00: It's like,
- 19:24SPEAKER_00: I am pretty disciplined with the majority of my life because I want
- 19:27SPEAKER_00: to be I'm really fiscally responsible because I have three kids that I have to pay
- 19:30SPEAKER_00: for.
- 19:30SPEAKER_00: I like to give myself some challenges of what I can do to be better because
- 19:35SPEAKER_00: then I feel like I'm more interesting to myself for sure.
- 19:39SPEAKER_00: This is what I have chosen.
- 19:42SPEAKER_00: I'm going to accomplish it.
- 19:44SPEAKER_00: Also knowing that it's a circuitous path.
- 19:47SPEAKER_00: It's not linear.
- 19:48SPEAKER_00: Everything in life is a circuitous path.
- 19:50SPEAKER_00: I mean, I've been grieving my mom and right before that happened,
- 19:54SPEAKER_00: my serious relationship, he passed away.
- 19:59SPEAKER_00: Can you
- 20:04SPEAKER_01: give an example of one of the challenges that you've created?
- 20:08SPEAKER_01: It could be something small,
- 20:09SPEAKER_01: but what's something you were like,
- 20:11SPEAKER_01: you know what, I need some resistance, I need some friction in my life.
- 20:15SPEAKER_01: So like,
- 20:15SPEAKER_01: what's an example of something someone could create if they're thinking,
- 20:18SPEAKER_01: I need to change things up?
- 20:19SPEAKER_01: What's a good way to get their motivation moving?
- 20:23SPEAKER_00: This was like a personal example.
- 20:24SPEAKER_00: Yesterday, I had a business call and somebody had asked me if I would work on a book for them.
- 20:30SPEAKER_00: And the idea that they had given me,
- 20:32SPEAKER_00: they were a successful businessman and it has a sports theme.
- 20:36SPEAKER_00: I thought it was not a great idea.
- 20:38SPEAKER_00: And I was like, okay, wait a minute.
- 20:40SPEAKER_00: I'm like, I could just go along with it, but I don't think it's good.
- 20:43SPEAKER_00: And I'm like, I don't think kids are gonna like it.
- 20:45SPEAKER_00: Let me figure out, have a really honest conversation with myself.
- 20:50SPEAKER_00: I'm like, if I don't do this project, is it going to hurt me?
- 20:55SPEAKER_00: And the answer was, maybe, maybe not.
- 20:58SPEAKER_00: Okay.
- 20:59SPEAKER_00: But if I do the project and it doesn't work, is that going to be worse?
- 21:03SPEAKER_00: And I was like, yes, that's going to be way worse.
- 21:07SPEAKER_00: What are you going to do, Marnie?
- 21:09SPEAKER_00: And I was like, put your...
- 21:10SPEAKER_00: Head back on, figure out a better solution.
- 21:14SPEAKER_00: And he had never written kids books before.
- 21:16SPEAKER_00: And he was like, oh, what about this?
- 21:18SPEAKER_00: And then honestly,
- 21:19SPEAKER_00: I was like, listen, there are some good moments in that, but it's not good enough.
- 21:24SPEAKER_00: What if we did that?
- 21:26SPEAKER_00: And I said,
- 21:27SPEAKER_00: the only way that I'm comfortable doing this project is if we do it more this way,
- 21:32SPEAKER_00: because I know what I'm doing.
- 21:34SPEAKER_00: And he was like, oh my gosh, that's so much better.
- 21:36SPEAKER_00: I can't believe it was kind of scary for a second because I was like, he might hang up on me.
- 21:40SPEAKER_00: That was something that I definitely put some more work onto myself,
- 21:45SPEAKER_00: but in a good way where I wasn't accepting what they wanted.
- 21:50SPEAKER_00: I was like, wait a minute, I think there's a better way to do it.
- 21:53SPEAKER_00: That's one way you could do it.
- 21:55SPEAKER_00: The other way is putting more boundaries on myself where, you know what?
- 21:58SPEAKER_00: I'm not as available to some people and I'm not gonna be a free consultant to everybody.
- 22:04SPEAKER_00: I love to give advice to a million people.
- 22:06SPEAKER_00: I wanna be a little more selective.
- 22:08SPEAKER_00: So that's how I also do it.
- 22:10SPEAKER_00: Great advice.
- 22:12SPEAKER_01: So speaking about writing and children's books,
- 22:15SPEAKER_01: people coming to you for advice,
- 22:16SPEAKER_01: do you have some advice for someone who's interested in becoming
- 22:20SPEAKER_01: a writer specifically for children?
- 22:22SPEAKER_00: Well, so my first tip and my first suggestion is, Just know you can do it.
- 22:26SPEAKER_00: Like we're all really capable people.
- 22:28SPEAKER_00: There's whatever the story is, we're all really capable.
- 22:31SPEAKER_00: I've been told this is what makes my books special is that they're for all ages
- 22:36SPEAKER_00: because I'm not writing just for children.
- 22:38SPEAKER_00: Yes, my audience.
- 22:40SPEAKER_00: My books are fun for people of all ages.
- 22:55SPEAKER_00: That's the secret ingredient in what my game day books are,
- 22:59SPEAKER_00: is that they're really for all ages, which is what I wanted them to be.
- 23:02SPEAKER_00: The first book, Football Freddy and Fumble Game Day in Philadelphia.
- 23:05SPEAKER_00: All my books are very similar in that concept where you travel around,
- 23:09SPEAKER_00: you get to see all the sites.
- 23:10SPEAKER_00: And then,
- 23:11SPEAKER_00: like I said,
- 23:11SPEAKER_00: make your way to the stadium to cheer on the home team,
- 23:13SPEAKER_00: whether it's Philadelphia, whether it's Pittsburgh.
- 23:16SPEAKER_00: One of the things that I did in all my books is added in a tour guide in each city.
- 23:22SPEAKER_00: For example,
- 23:23SPEAKER_00: in game day in Pittsburgh,
- 23:24SPEAKER_00: football,
- 23:24SPEAKER_00: Freddie and fumble game day in Pittsburgh,
- 23:26SPEAKER_00: Freddie's tour guide is a young man named Hugh.
- 23:28SPEAKER_00: Hugh is my college roommate's son.
- 23:30SPEAKER_00: And Hugh is the best person to be your tour guide in Pittsburgh.
- 23:33SPEAKER_00: And he was also autistic.
- 23:35SPEAKER_00: So it was a way for me to Celebrate the fact that while Hugh might be autistic,
- 23:40SPEAKER_00: he loves football.
- 23:41SPEAKER_00: He still loves his city.
- 23:43SPEAKER_00: He still is a good friend and wants to show his city to Freddie.
- 23:48SPEAKER_00: And that was something that I'm really proud of because it was an organization.
- 23:52SPEAKER_00: In Game Day in Tampa Bay,
- 23:55SPEAKER_00: Freddie's tour guide is a young man named Fred,
- 23:58SPEAKER_00: and Fred happened to be staying at the Ronald McDonald House.
- 24:01SPEAKER_00: Fred has cerebral palsy.
- 24:07SPEAKER_00: We're also learning a little bit about cerebral palsy.
- 24:09SPEAKER_00: We're learning what that means.
- 24:11SPEAKER_00: We're learning how to be a good friend.
- 24:12SPEAKER_00: We're learning acceptance is good.
- 24:14SPEAKER_00: I mean, it's not like,
- 24:15SPEAKER_00: you know,
- 24:16SPEAKER_00: every character has something going on, but in certain books, it made sense to me.
- 24:21SPEAKER_00: We added that in and it was an organic way to celebrate the people
- 24:26SPEAKER_00: that were important to me or some of the places that were important
- 24:29SPEAKER_00: and also acknowledge that to have a good friend, you have to be a good friend.
- 24:32SPEAKER_00: And those are things that are messages that come across very clearly in our book series.
- 24:37SPEAKER_01: I love that you included people from your life.
- 24:39SPEAKER_01: I was going to ask if you had a tie in between Ronald McDonald House and your books,
- 24:43SPEAKER_01: because I feel like it's such a natural combination.
- 24:46SPEAKER_01: So I'm glad that that's already happening.
- 24:48SPEAKER_01: It's a really beautiful addition to your books.
- 24:52SPEAKER_01: I also just wanted to highlight that great advice that you gave to potential writers
- 24:57SPEAKER_01: of children's work.
- 24:58SPEAKER_01: The customer is the adult, the consumer of the books are the adults.
- 25:03SPEAKER_01: And not only are they the ones who have to purchase the book,
- 25:05SPEAKER_01: but a lot of times they're the ones reading it.
- 25:07SPEAKER_01: With everything, you have to know your audience.
- 25:08SPEAKER_01: And I learned that from living in Hollywood.
- 25:10SPEAKER_01: If you go to a focus group, they spend a lot of time and money
- 25:32SPEAKER_00: The Delicate Papers.
- 25:47SPEAKER_00: And so I think that that's like a life lesson in everything that you do,
- 25:52SPEAKER_00: wherever you're going,
- 25:53SPEAKER_00: whatever you're,
- 25:54SPEAKER_00: if you're going to an event,
- 25:55SPEAKER_00: dress for that audience,
- 25:56SPEAKER_00: you know, make sure because that's the details that make people, I think, special.
- 26:01SPEAKER_00: Understanding what your audience is and whatever you're doing.
- 26:05SPEAKER_00: It gives you more credibility for your product.
- 26:09SPEAKER_00: Do some homework for me with my kids' books.
- 26:11SPEAKER_00: I learned very quickly that my customer,
- 26:14SPEAKER_00: my audience are very different,
- 26:16SPEAKER_00: but they're the same because like you said,
- 26:18SPEAKER_00: I want the people that are buying the book to look at it in the bookstore or look
- 26:22SPEAKER_00: at it on Amazon and be like, oh, this looks fun.
- 26:24SPEAKER_00: I'm going to enjoy giving this.
- 26:26SPEAKER_00: I'm going to enjoy reading this.
- 26:28SPEAKER_00: I'm going to enjoy reading it myself.
- 26:29SPEAKER_00: I wanted it to be something where everybody was like, this is kind of fun and I can enjoy this.
- 26:35SPEAKER_01: Marni, this has been such a great conversation.
- 26:38SPEAKER_01: You have shared so many great pieces of wisdom for writers and everybody in general.
- 26:43SPEAKER_01: If someone would like to work with you, where is the best place to find you?
- 26:47SPEAKER_01: If someone wants to buy your books, what are your social handles, your website?
- 26:50SPEAKER_01: Please share with us.
- 26:51SPEAKER_00: All right.
- 26:52SPEAKER_00: So my website is marnyschneider.com.
- 26:55SPEAKER_00: On Instagram, I'm marnyschneider1.
- 26:58SPEAKER_00: And then Facebook, it's me.
- 27:00SPEAKER_00: If they want to go to Amazon, it's Football Freddy and Fumble the Dog.
- 27:03SPEAKER_00: And there's 13 different books to choose from.
- 27:06SPEAKER_00: Also, Baseball And baseball,
- 27:07SPEAKER_00: Billy and Bunt, which are officially licensed by Major League Baseball.
- 27:11SPEAKER_00: Right now we have two books.
- 27:12SPEAKER_00: We've got Game Day with the New York Yankees and Game Day with the Philadelphia Phillies.
- 27:16SPEAKER_00: And baseball,
- 27:16SPEAKER_00: Billy is not me,
- 27:18SPEAKER_00: but she is a lovely young girl and she travels around,
- 27:21SPEAKER_00: for example,
- 27:21SPEAKER_00: Game Day with the New York Yankees with Mateo as they make their way to the stadium
- 27:25SPEAKER_00: to cheer on the Yankees.
- 27:27SPEAKER_00: And in Philadelphia,
- 27:28SPEAKER_00: it's baseball, Billy and Bunt game day with Benjamin, as in Benjamin Franklin.
- 27:32SPEAKER_00: I love Ben Franklin.
- 27:33SPEAKER_00: And same thing,
- 27:34SPEAKER_00: they travel along through the city of Philadelphia and learning about the history
- 27:38SPEAKER_00: of Philadelphia.
- 27:39SPEAKER_00: So I want kids to have an understanding of history.
- 27:42SPEAKER_00: And the game,
- 27:43SPEAKER_00: because like I've said in the beginning of our conversation,
- 27:45SPEAKER_00: I really do think that sports are the universal language.
- 27:49SPEAKER_00: So getting kids to speak a little bit of sports will help them with everything they're doing.
- 27:53SPEAKER_00: It helped me so much knowing a little bit about football,
- 27:56SPEAKER_00: certainly, and baseball and basketball.
- 27:58SPEAKER_00: Knowing these things really do bring everybody together because I really think
- 28:02SPEAKER_00: that sports are the universal language.
- 28:04SPEAKER_01: Well, congratulations with your deal with MLB.
- 28:06SPEAKER_01: That's exciting.
- 28:07SPEAKER_01: Thank you.
- 28:08SPEAKER_00: Yes, there will be more.
- 28:09SPEAKER_00: There's, you know, basketball.
- 28:10SPEAKER_00: Bobby is in the works.
- 28:11SPEAKER_00: Our goal with game day is to do the same thing with all the leagues.
- 28:14SPEAKER_00: So we've got all the different characters, all the leagues.
- 28:18SPEAKER_00: So getting kids excited.
- 28:19SPEAKER_00: Okay, well, Marnie, we end each episode with this very important question.
- 28:23SPEAKER_00: Marnie, how do you take your coffee?
- 28:45SPEAKER_00: Okay, well, I vary.
- 28:47SPEAKER_00: Some days I feel like I want it more like dessert than other days.
- 28:50SPEAKER_00: If it's not like just regular half and half,
- 28:53SPEAKER_00: then it will be,
- 28:54SPEAKER_00: there's a new brand called Two Goods, I think it is, and it's a sweet cream.
- 28:58SPEAKER_00: And that is delicious.
- 28:59SPEAKER_00: I'm at the bottom of it now, but I'm drinking it.
- 29:02SPEAKER_00: If I go and get a coffee at any sort of coffee place, I'll always do a mocha, just half sweet.
- 29:08SPEAKER_01: Great choice.
- 29:09SPEAKER_01: I love sweet cream creamers too.
- 29:11SPEAKER_01: Well, thank you so much for being here.
- 29:13SPEAKER_01: It's been a joy to chat with you.
- 29:14SPEAKER_00: Well, thank you, Jennifer.
- 29:16SPEAKER_00: And thank you for having me.
- 29:17SPEAKER_00: And thank you everyone for tuning in.
- 29:19SPEAKER_00: And I'll look forward to hearing from people.
- 29:22SPEAKER_01: Finally, to end each episode, we take three intentional breaths together.
- 29:27SPEAKER_01: Here we go.
- 29:29SPEAKER_01: Let's take our three breaths and let go.
- 29:33SPEAKER_01: Just allow whatever moment you are in to develop.
- 29:38SPEAKER_01: Allow your shoulders to relax, your hands to unclench, and your jaw to release.
- 29:47SPEAKER_01: Take a deep inhale.
- 29:51SPEAKER_01: And slow exhale.
- 29:57SPEAKER_01: Another inhale, filling up the lungs.
- 30:06SPEAKER_01: Exhale, pushing every last bit of air out.
- 30:14SPEAKER_01: And one last inhale.
- 30:21SPEAKER_01: Exhale, surrendering to whatever is in this moment.
- 30:27SPEAKER_01: Just be here.
- 30:31SPEAKER_01: Simple.
- 30:33SPEAKER_01: Be.
- 30:44SPEAKER_01: Thank you for listening to Jennifer with Coffee.
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