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11-02-26 Hour 1 - BRONCOS BEAT THE CHIEFS!/Vic makes us take a pledge/The Jonathan Taylor Sweepstakes · Moser, Lombardi and Kane

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  Speaker 1: This is Mosher Lombardi and Kane on demand. Listen live
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  Speaker 1: every weekday morning from 7 to 10 on Altitude Sports
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  Speaker 1: Radio 92.5 and.
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  Speaker 2: On the Altitude Sports Radio app.
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  Speaker 3: I'm going to say two things today that are going
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  Speaker 3: to sound insane.
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  Speaker 2: Number one.
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  Speaker 3: I am so confident that the Broncos win this weekend.
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  Speaker 4: I feel great.
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  Speaker 2: I'm uncomfortable.
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  Speaker 4: Why do I feel so good?
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  Speaker 3: Here's number two that we'll get to later. I am
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  Speaker 3: very confident the Buffs are going to win this weekend.
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  Speaker 2: Really? Yeah. Touchdown wins it.
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  Speaker 4: At the match point.
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  Speaker 2: He pulls. He fires. And in walk-off fashion.
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  Speaker 5: Just as he was in the opener, Charlie.
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  Speaker 1: Williams, the hero, and a Halloween thriller in Boulder.
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  Speaker 2: All on the line.
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  Speaker 6: Mahomes stepping up in trouble.
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  Speaker 3: Doesn't have a chance.
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  Speaker 2: Flings it.
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  Speaker 3: It's picked up and caught.
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  Speaker 2: And stopped at the one-yard line.
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  Speaker 6: This one is a big one because they were going
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  Speaker 6: to fall essentially three games back had they been swept
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  Speaker 6: by the Chiefs. Instead, they walk out of here tonight
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  Speaker 6: with the division lead at 6-2.
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  Speaker 3: Somehow, someway. It's just what they do. If I gave
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  Speaker 3: you a scenario here, 156 left on the clock, ball
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  Speaker 3: goes back to Patrick Mahomes with multiple timeouts, and they're
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  Speaker 3: down four. You're probably thinking, what exactly what we saw?
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  Speaker 3: They're going to take it down to the goal line.
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  Speaker 2: No, God, please, no.
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  Speaker 3: Two great plays. JL Skinner stuffing Kenneth Walker on that
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  Speaker 3: second-to-last play of the game. And then the guy who's
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  Speaker 3: made plays all year, Malcolm Roach, getting a sack. Vic,
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  Speaker 3: I don't know what to say about a team when
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  Speaker 3: I give you this number that they have won 15
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  Speaker 3: consecutive one-score games. NFL record, by the way. Ties the
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  Speaker 3: Colts from 08 to 09. What the hell are we watching?
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  Speaker 3: We don't have Vic.
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  Speaker 2: Hold on. One moment.
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  Speaker 3: We'll connect with Vic in a second. Point is, this
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  Speaker 3: team just continues to make a play whenever they have to.
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  Speaker 3: And I would say this, like, for this much of
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  Speaker 3: what the Broncos do on a week-in and week-out basis,
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  Speaker 3: it's different in that they sometimes can go out and make, like,
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  Speaker 3: I think they've gotten better the last couple of weeks
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  Speaker 3: on offense. But it sounds like Vic is back.
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  Speaker 2: Vic? All right, there you go.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, we got you.
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  Speaker 4: I need to make a statement.
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  Speaker 6: Mm-hmm.
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  Speaker 4: I need to make a statement on behalf of this
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  Speaker 4: entire radio show.
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  Speaker 5: Maybe on behalf of the media.
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  Speaker 4: Pay attention. Stop your cars.
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  Speaker 2: Get out.
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  Speaker 5: I have officially retired from casting aspersions on the Broncos
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  Speaker 5: and how they win football games.
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  Speaker 4: I'm done.
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  Speaker 2: I'm with you.
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  Speaker 5: No more casting of aspersions. No more being critical of
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  Speaker 5: the offense. No more wondering what could be. No more Saying, hey,
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  Speaker 5: if they only got it going earlier, hey, this, this, that.
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  Speaker 4: No, it's over.
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  Speaker 2: It's over.
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  Speaker 5: They took me to the cliff and I've jumped. Because
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  Speaker 5: this team, we ask all the time, can this be sustained?
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  Speaker 5: And here they are sustaining it right before our eyes.
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  Speaker 5: Whatever they do, however they do it, the result is
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  Speaker 5: always the same. And it seems like we recue the
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  Speaker 5: videotape every single week. And then we bang our head
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  Speaker 5: against the wall saying how.
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  Speaker 4: Well, no more banging. I'm not banging anymore.
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  Speaker 3: Those days are long gone.
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  Speaker 2: Those are gone.
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  Speaker 5: I am just going to sit back, watch, enjoy like
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  Speaker 5: every Bronco fan is telling me to do because it
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  Speaker 5: makes no sense.
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  Speaker 4: And yet here we are.
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  Speaker 5: Here we are watching the final moments of that game
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  Speaker 5: saying to yourself, I know what you're saying.
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  Speaker 4: Oh my God. Here comes Mahomes. Oh, the pass to Kelsey. Oh,
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  Speaker 4: Kenneth Walker, look how close he did. He almost got in.
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  Speaker 5: Oh, great tackle by Skinner, but, you know, they still
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  Speaker 5: have two more shots at it.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, wow, great.
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  Speaker 3: That was a great break.
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  Speaker 4: They called false start. Oh, my God, the Broncos won.
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  Speaker 2: It's nuts.
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  Speaker 3: So let me give you these two numbers again. Number one,
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  Speaker 3: the Broncos have won, Vic, 15 consecutive one-score games. 15
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  Speaker 3: in a row.
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  Speaker 4: It's impossible.
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  Speaker 3: Think about what takes place in a one-score game. A
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  Speaker 3: ball bounces weird. A penalty at the wrong time. A turnover.
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  Speaker 3: A missed field goal. There's something that can go the
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  Speaker 3: opposite way that leads to you losing. And the Broncos
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  Speaker 3: 15 consecutive times have basically waited. I've made the comparison
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  Speaker 3: like you're playing ping pong. The Broncos are just keeping
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  Speaker 3: the ball on the table. And they're waiting for their
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  Speaker 3: opponent to do something stupid.
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  Speaker 2: You're so right.
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  Speaker 3: And here's what happens. I'll just give you a couple examples.
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  Speaker 3: They have a chance.
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  Speaker 2: The Chiefs do.
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  Speaker 3: To give themselves a bigger lead. I understand that the
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  Speaker 3: Broncos ended up scoring a touchdown anyway, but they could
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  Speaker 3: go up 27 to 21. That puts a different pressure
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  Speaker 3: on an offense, right? And Mahomes takes the sack on
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  Speaker 3: third and two as opposed to throwing the ball away.
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  Speaker 3: That leads to a longer field goal for Harrison Butker,
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  Speaker 3: who's already struggling with confidence, who misses that, and now
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  Speaker 3: you've got the football at midfield down three points. Like,
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  Speaker 3: little things like that, the Broncos just wait for you
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  Speaker 3: to do one stupid thing, and they take advantage.
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  Speaker 5: Just hit the ball back. your, your tennis analogies perfectly.
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  Speaker 5: Just hit the ball back. Just keep it in there.
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  Speaker 4: Hitting it back.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: Unforced air, hit it back, make them make a mistake.
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  Speaker 5: And the defense again, and I, and I said this
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  Speaker 5: during the game, don't blame the defense because the defense
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  Speaker 5: was catching some heat for giving up points, but you know,
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  Speaker 5: I'm going to tread lightly here because I promised not
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  Speaker 5: to be critical of the offense, but When they go
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  Speaker 5: three and out, three straight possessions in the third quarter,
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  Speaker 5: that leaves the defense on the field for an awful
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  Speaker 5: long time.
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  Speaker 4: So what do you expect?
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  Speaker 5: So the defense is going to show some weakness at times,
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  Speaker 5: based on the amount of time they have to play
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  Speaker 5: the damn game. But at the end of the day,
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  Speaker 5: when they needed to hold, they held. That was the
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  Speaker 5: biggest goal line stand in years. In fact, I need
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  Speaker 5: Denver Broncos fans to help me recollect here. If you're
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  Speaker 5: driving around, give me a goal line stand of that
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  Speaker 5: magnitude and consequence.
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  Speaker 4: Because.
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  Speaker 5: This one is big on so many levels, not just
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  Speaker 5: to win an exciting game at home, but because you
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  Speaker 5: rest away the top spot in the AFC West. You're
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  Speaker 5: now in the driver's seat. You're done playing Kansas City,
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  Speaker 5: and you've got the division championship, the title, in your hands,
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  Speaker 5: in your grasp. It's that kind of win. So find,
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  Speaker 5: for me, the last goal line stand that looked like that.
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  Speaker 4: You got to go back a ways.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, you do.
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  Speaker 3: Well, how's this for a number, Vic? Because I said
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  Speaker 3: I'm going to give you another stat today. And I've,
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  Speaker 3: in the past couple weeks, I think this was after
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  Speaker 3: the Seahawks game was the one where Fitzpatrick was talking
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  Speaker 3: about embarrassment to the quarterback position, right? Yeah, because I
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  Speaker 3: was thirsty. So I gave you stats after that game
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  Speaker 3: that Bo Nix was like 171 out of 171 in
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  Speaker 3: average depth of target or something like that in qualified quarterbacks.
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  Speaker 3: You know what stat matters a lot? Since 1991, there
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  Speaker 3: have been 169 quarterbacks with at least 75 passing attempts
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  Speaker 3: in the fourth quarter when trailing by one to eight points.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Do you know who is number one in passer rating
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  Speaker 3: in that category? It's not Peyton Manning. It's not Tom Brady.
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  Speaker 3: It's not Mahomes. It's not Breeze. It's not Aaron Rodgers.
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  Speaker 3: It's not John Elway. Phoenix has a passer rating of
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  Speaker 3: 119 in that scenario.
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  Speaker 4: Explain the scenario one more time.
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  Speaker 3: Trailing in the fourth quarter down one to eight points.
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  Speaker 2: Jeez.
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  Speaker 5: So all you have to do, it's so funny, he's
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  Speaker 5: a scrambler.
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  Speaker 4: He's a golf scrambler.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: He's the guy who blades his tee shot, hits it
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  Speaker 5: into the weeds, and finds a way to make.
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  Speaker 4: Par or birdie from anywhere.
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  Speaker 3: Just get up and down.
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  Speaker 4: That's what he does.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: Because the defense, all right, The defense was carrying most
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  Speaker 5: of the load. The offense was asleep at the wheel.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, they kept hitting the snooze button in the
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  Speaker 5: third quarter.
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  Speaker 4: Hit the button. Hit the button. Hit the button.
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  Speaker 5: And then you're down double digits, and you're like, oh, boy.
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  Speaker 4: And two drives. One was a nine-play.
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  Speaker 5: Drive that featured a nice pass by Bowe, probably his
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  Speaker 5: best pass of the game. Second drive was all Jonah Coleman.
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  Speaker 5: That was the two-play Jonah Coleman drive. And a perfect call,
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  Speaker 5: by the way. by Sean Payton.
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  Speaker 3: Second week in a row.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Second week in a row. The same thing with RJ
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  Speaker 3: Harvey last week.
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  Speaker 7: Yep.
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  Speaker 2: Yep.
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  Speaker 5: The blitz game, he throws the screen and it results
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  Speaker 5: in a huge game.
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  Speaker 4: Perfect call.
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  Speaker 5: And then Jonah Coleman takes it from there. So I
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  Speaker 5: don't know. I, you know, I I'm, I'm tired of saying,
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  Speaker 5: how does this happen? Where does it come from? Some
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  Speaker 5: of the textures coming in. I asked about goal line stands.
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  Speaker 5: Somebody said last year against the commanders.
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  Speaker 4: Good point. That one in Washington. Do you remember that
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  Speaker 4: goal line stand that secured that game?
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  Speaker 2: I guess.
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  Speaker 5: I've conveniently forgotten that one. But that was a great
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  Speaker 5: goal line stand. This one just carries more weight. First
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  Speaker 5: of all because it was at home... against Kansas City.
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  Speaker 5: The 2015 AFC Championship game against Brady where they went
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  Speaker 5: for it and Brady went to the corner of the
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  Speaker 5: end zone and instead he had a guy wide open
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  Speaker 5: that he missed, but another stand.
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  Speaker 4: Those are two.
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  Speaker 5: The Patriots in the AFC championship game. This one ranks
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  Speaker 5: right up there, though.
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  Speaker 4: This one is there. This texture.
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  Speaker 5: I'm 46 years old. I've been watching the Broncos since
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  Speaker 5: I was six. I don't recall a goal line stand
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  Speaker 5: that big ever to win a game.
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  Speaker 3: And think about who did it, too. It was the
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  Speaker 3: third down or the stop on Kenneth Walker.
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  Speaker 4: Was a reserve safety.
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  Speaker 3: Because your safeties are out. JL Skinner just hops in and.
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  Speaker 3: Lays the wood. Like, just right there at point of contact,
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  Speaker 3: line of scrimmage. The Broncos, by the way, as expected.
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  Speaker 3: But I think we kind of came up with a number, Vic.
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  Speaker 3: If you hold Kenneth Walker to around 70 rushing yards,
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  Speaker 3: that would be considered successful? Yeah. 69 yards on 21
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  Speaker 3: carries on the day.
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  Speaker 2: They did that.
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  Speaker 5: Another person suggests the fumble. Everybody remembers the Ernest Biner fumble.
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  Speaker 5: That was the year after The drive where the Browns
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  Speaker 5: came in here and you were you weren't even born yet,
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  Speaker 5: my friend.
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  Speaker 4: But I'll give you a quick recollection.
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  Speaker 5: The Browns came in here and they were taking on
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  Speaker 5: the Broncos and they were driving.
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  Speaker 4: To, I believe, tie the game.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: I think they were trying to tie the game at
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  Speaker 5: the time. And it was a great play by Jeremiah.
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  Speaker 5: You might remember this name. I interviewed this guy Super
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  Speaker 5: Bowl week last year. He and his son were at
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  Speaker 5: the Super Bowl. Jeremiah Castile was a little-known player for
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  Speaker 5: the Broncos. Didn't play much. He comes up and forces
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  Speaker 5: a fumble, and the Broncos go on to win the game.
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  Speaker 5: That was a great goal-line stand. It didn't feel as
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  Speaker 5: much like a goal-line stand because the Browns were just driving.
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  Speaker 5: It didn't come to fourth down. This one was different.
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  Speaker 5: This one was all dramatic right in front of you.
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  Speaker 5: First down, second down, third down. You're right there. By
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  Speaker 5: the way, both teams struggled to run the ball inside
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  Speaker 5: the five-yard line.
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  Speaker 4: You notice that? The Broncos both times.
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  Speaker 5: They couldn't stuff it in. They had to go to
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  Speaker 5: play action. Two times on fourth and goal.
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  Speaker 3: You know what's funny? Is that the amount of Chiefs
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  Speaker 3: fans that are talking about the false start call. Including
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  Speaker 3: their quarterback's wife. Did you see what Brittany Mahomes said?
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  Speaker 4: And their coach. But you know what?
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  Speaker 3: So she said, just real quick, she goes, you can't
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  Speaker 3: tell me.
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  Speaker 3: You call that on a game-winning touchdown.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, wait.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, you can because it's us. Which I was unaware
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  Speaker 3: that the Chiefs lived in a world where they felt
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  Speaker 3: like they get jobbed by the refs a lot. That
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  Speaker 3: was new information to me. But secondly, it's very clearly
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  Speaker 3: a false start. The guy rocks backwards. He tries to
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  Speaker 3: play it off like he was looking at the line
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  Speaker 3: of script. It was a false start.
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  Speaker 6: Sorry.
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  Speaker 3: It's true. Your guy rolled back for a second.
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  Speaker 5: Can't do that. You're not allowed as a Chiefs fan
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  Speaker 5: to complain about officiating in any game.
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  Speaker 4: You're just not allowed.
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  Speaker 5: You've lost that right.
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  Speaker 3: It's gone. It blew me away. Whether it was Brittany
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  Speaker 3: Mahomes or the 100 Chiefs fans I've seen on Twitter,
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  Speaker 3: they're complaining like the refs have it out for them.
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  Speaker 3: And I was like, everybody else in the league, it
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  Speaker 3: would be like Lakers fans saying we never get calls.
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  Speaker 4: So here's another text. Take that L on the way out.
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  Speaker 5: We get these all the time after the Broncos find
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  Speaker 5: a way to win these.
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  Speaker 4: Here we go. I'm going to read this from Levi.
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  Speaker 5: And, Levi, I'm telling you, I was in your camp
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  Speaker 5: for a while, and now I've moved to the other side,
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  Speaker 5: and I'm going to tell you how you move. Levi
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  Speaker 5: writes in, come on, guys. Broncos didn't win that game.
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  Speaker 5: Chiefs lost it. Levi, you don't do this 15 straight
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  Speaker 5: times and all of a sudden say the other team
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  Speaker 5: lost it.
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  Speaker 2: Go outside, nerd.
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  Speaker 4: That's beyond coincidence, Levi.
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  Speaker 5: If that happens once, twice, four times, okay, yeah. It's
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  Speaker 5: happened 15 straight times.
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  Speaker 3: This is now what we call a trend. This is
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  Speaker 3: a pattern.
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  Speaker 5: That's a team that just gets better when the game
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  Speaker 5: is on the line. They're more poised when the consequences
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  Speaker 5: become real.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: Their heart rate slows late in games. And what was
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  Speaker 5: bad becomes good. So I'm here to tell you, no more.
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  Speaker 5: I am done complaining about their offense. It's good enough
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  Speaker 5: to win.
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  Speaker 4: And that's it.
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  Speaker 3: 303-504-0925. Adam Schefter joins us today at 8 o'clock. We also,
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  Speaker 3: I think we'll run a little bit of this Sean
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  Speaker 3: Payton presser. He's got one coming up at 9 o'clock
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  Speaker 3: this morning as well. So we'll get to all that
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  Speaker 3: in just a bit.
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  Speaker 2: Stick around.
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  Speaker 7: Guys, it's a let's ride moment or not. You know,
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  Speaker 7: I got the Kansas City Chiefs. Patrick Mahomes, Super Bowl champion.
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  Speaker 7: But nobody could catch the ball. And I got the
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  Speaker 7: Denver Broncos.
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  Speaker 2: They were struggling on offense.
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  Speaker 7: But my guy, Bo Nix, stepped up in a big way.
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  Speaker 7: And listen, he got some explosive plays. 62-yard touchdown.
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  Speaker 4: So I got to go this.
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  Speaker 2: I'm going.
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  Speaker 3: I'm riding with the Denver Broncos.
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  Speaker 2: Let's ride. Let's ride.
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  Speaker 7: And Sean Payton, you may like me, you may not,
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  Speaker 7: but I'm picking you.
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  Speaker 3: I thought that was really cool from Russell Wilson.
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  Speaker 4: I thought that was great. It shows some humility.
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  Speaker 2: It was real.
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  Speaker 5: He understands that people know about the unrest between the
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  Speaker 5: two of them, and yet I thought he was humble.
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  Speaker 2: That was great. I do, too.
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  Speaker 3: Rally House Football Monday. Rally House shop every team in town.
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  Speaker 3: Can I give you just a couple of things here, Vic,
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  Speaker 3: and thoughts towards the Broncos and the offense? I think
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  Speaker 3: that for the second consecutive week, They showed improvement. Now,
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  Speaker 3: my bar for them is very, very low. But I
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  Speaker 3: think that there were baby steps, again, made in that
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  Speaker 3: game offensively. At the end of the first half, didn't
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  Speaker 3: they have like 180 total yards of offense?
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  Speaker 2: That's totally fine. It was fine.
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  Speaker 3: The third quarter is what killed you.
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  Speaker 2: That was it.
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  Speaker 4: Again, they kept hitting the snooze button in the third quarter.
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  Speaker 5: You tell me the last time you found a team
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  Speaker 5: at home to go three consecutive three and outs with
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  Speaker 5: a grand total of nine yards.
• 16:24
  Speaker 3: It's pretty difficult.
• 16:26
  Speaker 4: Pretty hard.
• 16:27
  Speaker 3: Now, here's the thing. Bo Nix, at a couple of
• 16:31
  Speaker 3: points in that game, Vic, climbed the pocket, made a
• 16:33
  Speaker 3: couple of throws. One thing's obvious. His best play of
• 16:37
  Speaker 3: the game to me was on the run, making the
• 16:41
  Speaker 3: throw to Jalen Waddell. If I have to put a
• 16:44
  Speaker 3: Bo Nix play in a time capsule, that's what it's
• 16:48
  Speaker 3: got to be. Him being able to be mobile on
• 16:51
  Speaker 3: the move while keeping his eyes downfield. One thing that
• 16:55
  Speaker 3: was driving me nuts was they get in these third
• 16:57
  Speaker 3: and sixes and they'd have, you know, throw short of
• 17:00
  Speaker 3: the sticks and they get tackled short and then the
• 17:02
  Speaker 3: punt team comes out. That I don't get. But here's
• 17:07
  Speaker 3: the other thing. Can I just say one thing I
• 17:09
  Speaker 3: was disappointed in? I thought after all of the back
• 17:18
  Speaker 3: and forth that J.K. Dobbins had earlier in the week, R.J.
• 17:21
  Speaker 3: Harvey gets thrown on IR before the game. He's a
• 17:24
  Speaker 3: big pass-catching guy out of the backfield. So I thought
• 17:27
  Speaker 3: to myself, okay, so J.K. Dobbins is fired up, and
• 17:31
  Speaker 3: with R.J. Harvey being out, he's going to have a
• 17:35
  Speaker 3: bigger opportunity and a bigger role now in this game
• 17:38
  Speaker 3: than maybe what would have been previous to that. And
• 17:43
  Speaker 3: nothing happened. And I don't think that Jonah Coleman was
• 17:46
  Speaker 3: a ton better, but it was clearly better.
• 17:48
  Speaker 5: A friend of mine, a fantasy footballer, asked me, texted
• 17:52
  Speaker 5: me and said, hey, can I rely on Jonah Coleman
• 17:55
  Speaker 5: getting 20 carries?
• 17:57
  Speaker 4: And I said, I don't think so. I don't think
• 18:00
  Speaker 4: he'll get 20. He'll get the bulk of them, but
• 18:03
  Speaker 4: not 20. He ended up with just 11.
• 18:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 18:06
  Speaker 4: They just don't do that.
• 18:07
  Speaker 3: He got some touches out of the backfield on passes,
• 18:09
  Speaker 3: obviously the big throw for.
• 18:11
  Speaker 5: And that's a big reason why they never get to
• 18:13
  Speaker 5: that number because they use their running backs as extended
• 18:16
  Speaker 5: handoffs with those passes.
• 18:17
  Speaker 4: Hey, Moj, good morning. I don't know if you watched.
• 18:20
  Speaker 5: But the Broncos won a game at the buzzer yesterday.
• 18:22
  Speaker 4: I don't know if you were aware of that.
• 18:23
  Speaker 2: They did, yeah. Yeah, I'm pretty aware of it. I
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: think this is going to be one of them days, boys.
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: You're coming in hot.
• 18:30
  Speaker 4: You are coming in hot.
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: My face is not matching my audio, is it?
• 18:36
  Speaker 3: No, no, you're fine. You're fine. Yeah.
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: Okay. Because your face isn't matching your audio. Dude, I
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: can't tell you how absolutely aggravating the end of that
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: game was to me. I mean, and the Chiefs, by
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: the way, they let the clock tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick.
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: I'm like, you're not leaving much room for error for yourselves, knuckleheads.
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: Go ahead, keep doing it. And what a finish. I mean,
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: what an absolute finish. That false start saved the entire day.
• 19:02
  Speaker 3: Well, on top of that, this is just who the
• 19:05
  Speaker 3: Broncos are. I mean, me and Vic have mentioned this earlier,
• 19:07
  Speaker 3: but when you win 15 consecutive games, 15 consecutive one-score games,
• 19:14
  Speaker 3: this isn't fluky. And we can say, you know, Here's
• 19:19
  Speaker 3: the analogy that we made earlier, Moj. It's the least
• 19:22
  Speaker 3: of what I think. The Broncos, just in games like this,
• 19:26
  Speaker 3: they keep the ping pong ball on the table. Keep
• 19:28
  Speaker 3: it on the table. And they wait for you to
• 19:30
  Speaker 3: hit the net. They wait for you to hit one long.
• 19:32
  Speaker 3: Like Morty.
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 19:34
  Speaker 3: But Morty's, like, good. What you have to do, you
• 19:37
  Speaker 3: have to be sure. If it's me playing against Nelly,
• 19:39
  Speaker 3: two guys who don't know how to play ping pong,
• 19:41
  Speaker 3: and I keep it on the table long enough, Nelly's
• 19:43
  Speaker 3: going to make a mistake. in the chiefs of all teams,
• 19:46
  Speaker 3: Patrick Mahomes specifically, like it's third and two. He has
• 19:50
  Speaker 3: the chance to at least throw the ball out of bounds.
• 19:52
  Speaker 3: He doesn't, he takes a sack that moves a field
• 19:54
  Speaker 3: goal back to 54 yards. Well, now you miss that.
• 19:57
  Speaker 3: Now the Broncos are down four points or was it three,
• 20:01
  Speaker 3: three or four? I can't even remember now.
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: Three.
• 20:03
  Speaker 3: They're down three at the 50 yard line. to try
• 20:06
  Speaker 3: and get the game-winning score and immediately get the pop
• 20:09
  Speaker 3: play for a touchdown. It's just, it's amazing to me.
• 20:13
  Speaker 3: Patrick Mahomes was 80-2 in his career when having a
• 20:18
  Speaker 3: double-digit lead going in the fourth quarter. Still, it doesn't matter. Like,
• 20:22
  Speaker 3: the Broncos just find, they find some way to do it.
• 20:25
  Speaker 5: From texter1880, can you guys please explain why Sean Payton
• 20:28
  Speaker 5: was using timeouts on that final defensive drive, that defensive stand?
• 20:32
  Speaker 4: I still can't figure out why.
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: Why?
• 20:34
  Speaker 5: Because he thought they were going to score and he
• 20:35
  Speaker 5: wanted some time on the clock to counter it.
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: That's why.
• 20:38
  Speaker 5: Because Mahomes was just carving them up to start that drive.
• 20:41
  Speaker 5: I mean, he was just like, yep, here, here's 20,
• 20:43
  Speaker 5: here's 10, here's 12.
• 20:44
  Speaker 4: I mean, they moved it down the field in seconds.
• 20:46
  Speaker 3: Can I ask you a dumb question?
• 20:48
  Speaker 4: He assumed the score was coming.
• 20:49
  Speaker 3: Can I ask you a dumb question? Because part of
• 20:51
  Speaker 3: me felt this with how easily they were moving the
• 20:53
  Speaker 3: ball down the field. Did any part of you think,
• 20:56
  Speaker 3: maybe you just let them score?
• 20:59
  Speaker 4: I always think that way.
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: Maybe you just let it happen?
• 21:01
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I always think that way and I And I wonder,
• 21:05
  Speaker 5: because I act and sound defeatist by thinking that way,
• 21:09
  Speaker 5: afterwards I'm like, why would I ever think that way?
• 21:12
  Speaker 3: But they're at the 12-yard line with a minute six left.
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: In the game.
• 21:15
  Speaker 3: And part of me is like, man, they're probably going
• 21:17
  Speaker 3: to find a way to punch us in here. Do
• 21:19
  Speaker 3: you just let it happen?
• 21:20
  Speaker 4: Yeah, but then you're down four.
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: I know, I know.
• 21:23
  Speaker 4: You're down four.
• 21:24
  Speaker 5: And is that still enough time to get back into
• 21:27
  Speaker 5: the end zone?
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: With them, probably.
• 21:29
  Speaker 5: You know, talking to Nellie.
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: Talking to Nelly about this off the air, and then,
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: of course, we've talked to Legwald about this a million times.
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: It's basically this team, this defense. They may not be
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: great all the time, and they give up yards and whatever, but, man,
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: when they really need that big play, when they really
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: need it. Now they got bailed out a little bit
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: by the, quote, false start. But, boy, did they suck
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: it up late. You know what I mean? It was
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: a false start.
• 21:56
  Speaker 5: It was a false start.
• 21:57
  Speaker 4: There wasn't a mystery here.
• 21:58
  Speaker 5: You go back and look at it.
• 21:59
  Speaker 4: The guy moved. I mean, it's not as if.
• 22:01
  Speaker 5: This isn't one that's going to be a controversial call
• 22:05
  Speaker 5: for years to come. This wasn't the Rob Lytle fumble
• 22:08
  Speaker 5: in the 77 AFC Championship.
• 22:11
  Speaker 4: This was a legit false start. I don't know what
• 22:13
  Speaker 4: the argument is there.
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: Okay. I thought, to me, this is, again, this is me.
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: I've seen that not called a million times. I've seen
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: it called a million times. I'm just saying either way.
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: But nonetheless, you've got to credit that defense for sucking
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: it up when it mattered the most at the very
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: end there. And to get a sack, to get a sack,
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: to get Mahomes not even getting the ball out of
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: his hand, right to the end zone on a fourth
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: and goal, what a freaking play, man. And I'm telling you,
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: I felt this way last week. I felt this way
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: yesterday when it was over. I think that game just
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: won you the AFC West because what I see out
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: of the Chiefs and I see the schedule that's coming
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: for them, it's going to ramp up even more for
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: the Kansas City Chiefs. All of a sudden I see
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: the tie, but I see the Broncos separating in the
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: coming weeks. I really do.
• 23:07
  Speaker 5: I need all of your assistance right now. How do
• 23:10
  Speaker 5: you record this? Because I want to record this. How
• 23:12
  Speaker 5: do you record this on Twitch?
• 23:14
  Speaker 3: Write this down.
• 23:15
  Speaker 5: I'll record this.
• 23:16
  Speaker 4: But I want to record this on Twitch. One of
• 23:17
  Speaker 4: you Twitchers, record this.
• 23:19
  Speaker 5: You can write this down. Hell, record this.
• 23:21
  Speaker 4: We're going to do something here. We're going to do
• 23:23
  Speaker 4: something very special. So record the following.
• 23:25
  Speaker 5: I want you guys to raise your right hands, all
• 23:27
  Speaker 5: of you.
• 23:28
  Speaker 4: Let's go raise your right hand. Natalie, raise your right hand.
• 23:31
  Speaker 4: Get your pimp hand up there. Raise your right hand.
• 23:35
  Speaker 4: And repeat after me.
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: After me. I, name. I, name.
• 23:41
  Speaker 4: Solemnly swear.
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: Solemnly swear.
• 23:44
  Speaker 5: Never to cast aspersions again. Never to cast aspersions again.
• 23:50
  Speaker 5: About the poor play of the Broncos offense.
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: About the poor play of the Broncos offense.
• 23:56
  Speaker 4: During a game when it looks like all hope is lost.
• 24:00
  Speaker 3: During a game when it looks like all hope is lost.
• 24:03
  Speaker 5: No matter what I feel about the offensive inadequacies.
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: No matter what I feel about it.
• 24:12
  Speaker 4: But I will forever.
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: But I will forever. But I will forever.
• 24:16
  Speaker 3: Believe.
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: Believe.
• 24:18
  Speaker 4: That at the end of the day.
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: That at the end of the day.
• 24:20
  Speaker 4: The Broncos will get that dub.
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: Broncos will get that dub. Amen. Amen. It was good. Okay, Jesus.
• 24:29
  Speaker 5: I didn't like your.
• 24:30
  Speaker 4: Moshe, I didn't like you doing this. It was not this.
• 24:33
  Speaker 3: I had my fingers crossed because I can't fully promise this.
• 24:36
  Speaker 3: I'm still going to talk about some things.
• 24:37
  Speaker 5: I want that sent to me because I want to
• 24:39
  Speaker 5: put that out. That's going to be a promise that
• 24:41
  Speaker 5: we make on this show.
• 24:42
  Speaker 3: No more.
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: I'm done. I'm retired.
• 24:44
  Speaker 3: The biggest part of the promise that I did mean
• 24:47
  Speaker 3: was the... I will not talk about the inactivity.
• 24:51
  Speaker 5: Hey, I said that on purpose.
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: Hang on a second. Hang on a second.
• 24:58
  Speaker 3: There is something offensively that I want to get to.
• 25:00
  Speaker 3: We'll wait like 15 minutes. Adam Schefter is going to
• 25:02
  Speaker 3: join us at eight. But here's the thing, dude. The
• 25:07
  Speaker 3: impact of that football game and what that means for
• 25:11
  Speaker 3: a game that took place in still the first half
• 25:13
  Speaker 3: of the season. We aren't even halfway through the year yet.
• 25:16
  Speaker 3: But the impact of that win. Took the Broncos, I
• 25:19
  Speaker 3: just looked it up, they went from plus 200 to
• 25:22
  Speaker 3: win the division before that game to minus 150.
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 25:26
  Speaker 3: That's the shift that was made. Now, the Chiefs still have, Moj,
• 25:30
  Speaker 3: two or three easier games here in the coming weeks,
• 25:33
  Speaker 3: but then they have a bulk from the end of
• 25:35
  Speaker 3: November to basically Christmas that is just, it's the Broncos'
• 25:39
  Speaker 3: first six games.
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: Of the year. That's what they have coming. Their stuff's
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: going to ramp up in a big-time way, and again,
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: injuries will figure into it. They're going to be in one.
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: This is all of a sudden, I'm telling you right now,
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: the Broncos are, I don't care, the records are tied.
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: They're one and one against each other. The Broncos are
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: such in the driver's seat right now, you can't even
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: believe it. They are in the driver's seat.
• 26:03
  Speaker 3: Which begs the next question. I was going to wait
• 26:05
  Speaker 3: for this, but screw it. I'm doing it now. I
• 26:08
  Speaker 3: don't think there's any excuse to be outbid for Jonathan Taylor.
• 26:12
  Speaker 3: The Colts are done. I've never seen a football team
• 26:15
  Speaker 3: quit like the Colts quit yesterday.
• 26:17
  Speaker 4: I want to debate that. I want to debate that.
• 26:19
  Speaker 5: I really have some opinions on whether or not the
• 26:22
  Speaker 5: Broncos should make a run, and it's all tied into
• 26:25
  Speaker 5: the future of Bo Nix and this offense. Well, it's 731.
• 26:29
  Speaker 5: We have seven minutes left in this segment, so let's
• 26:31
  Speaker 5: go there right now. Do you believe the acquisition of
• 26:35
  Speaker 5: Jonathan Taylor will automatically make this run game a better
• 26:39
  Speaker 5: run game.
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 26:40
  Speaker 4: Okay, you believe that.
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: I do.
• 26:43
  Speaker 3: I'm not saying like tops in the league, but it
• 26:44
  Speaker 3: will make them better.
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: Yes, no doubt.
• 26:46
  Speaker 4: And I don't disagree.
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: But this is why. Because he's a better back than
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: anybody you've got. Okay? And even if you don't block
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: as well as you should in the run game, or
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: whatever you want to call it, he's going to make
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: it absolutely better.
• 27:01
  Speaker 5: Is there any part of you, again, and this goes
• 27:03
  Speaker 5: against the prayer we just gave, the oath, I don't
• 27:06
  Speaker 5: want to cast aspersions on the offense, but I made
• 27:09
  Speaker 5: it known that it's during the game. After the game,
• 27:11
  Speaker 5: all bets are off.
• 27:12
  Speaker 4: I can do what I want.
• 27:13
  Speaker 5: But does it make you a little less hopeful that
• 27:19
  Speaker 5: a running back like Jonathan Taylor will operate like JT
• 27:23
  Speaker 5: behind this offensive line, which in my opinion is not
• 27:27
  Speaker 5: exactly the best run-blocking line that's out there?
• 27:30
  Speaker 4: It's a great line. Now, it's a veteran line.
• 27:33
  Speaker 5: Everybody keeps saying how this line's among the best in
• 27:35
  Speaker 5: the NFL. But does it look like to you that
• 27:39
  Speaker 5: this is one of those gaping holes at the line
• 27:41
  Speaker 5: of scrimmage offensive lines?
• 27:43
  Speaker 3: I think people would be shocked at how much better
• 27:46
  Speaker 3: you would think the offensive line is at run blocking
• 27:48
  Speaker 3: with a running back like Jonathan Taylor. Look, I don't
• 27:52
  Speaker 3: think it's the opposite, okay? Like the running back, yes,
• 27:55
  Speaker 3: an offensive line can make an average running back look good.
• 27:59
  Speaker 3: A great running back... will be a great running back
• 28:02
  Speaker 3: no matter what. They'll find, they'll make their own holes.
• 28:06
  Speaker 3: I just watched, sorry, just real quick, because there's one
• 28:08
  Speaker 3: play that sticks out to me of like, this is
• 28:10
  Speaker 3: what a running back can do. There's a play in
• 28:12
  Speaker 3: the Detroit game yesterday against that vaunted Vikings defense where
• 28:14
  Speaker 3: Jameer Gibbs runs to the right side. It's the zone run.
• 28:17
  Speaker 3: There are four Vikings standing in front of him. He stopped,
• 28:21
  Speaker 3: changed direction, went the opposite way, and broke off a
• 28:24
  Speaker 3: 20-yard run. That is a line that created no holes
• 28:28
  Speaker 3: that a good running back just made happen.
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: He was actually met in the backfield by a guy
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: who busted through the offensive line, and he pivoted. He
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: got a nice block out of his quarterback. But, yeah, Vic,
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: he reversed direction and made it all happen. But that's
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: a good back. That's what they do. That's what a
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: good back does, correct.
• 28:44
  Speaker 5: We noticed a run in the first quarter yesterday by J.K.
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: Dobbins.
• 28:47
  Speaker 5: We're sitting up at the box.
• 28:48
  Speaker 4: We saw the replay.
• 28:50
  Speaker 5: Coach Sanford, myself, D-Max were huddled around the laptop because
• 28:53
  Speaker 5: we replayed it.
• 28:54
  Speaker 4: And J.K. was bouncing around. He got a handoff.
• 28:57
  Speaker 5: And the play was designed to cut it back because
• 29:00
  Speaker 5: all the linemen, it was the old zone, and he
• 29:02
  Speaker 5: didn't cut it back. And we're sitting there going, what?
• 29:06
  Speaker 5: What's he seeing that we're not? What is the point
• 29:10
  Speaker 5: of that?
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: So who knows?
• 29:11
  Speaker 4: You might be right.
• 29:12
  Speaker 5: Maybe that's a play Jonathan Taylor turns into a 40-yard
• 29:15
  Speaker 5: gain because it was wide open on the backside.
• 29:17
  Speaker 4: I just wonder.
• 29:18
  Speaker 5: I ask the question.
• 29:19
  Speaker 4: I'm with you.
• 29:20
  Speaker 5: I think the Broncos got to do whatever they have
• 29:23
  Speaker 5: to do to go get Jonathan Taylor, which leads to
• 29:25
  Speaker 5: the next question.
• 29:27
  Speaker 4: And I want to bring this up.
• 29:28
  Speaker 5: Well, you're going to run out of money at some
• 29:30
  Speaker 5: point because you got to pay Bo. Where does it
• 29:34
  Speaker 5: say what rule is out there that says you have
• 29:38
  Speaker 5: to pay Bo $ 60 million?
• 29:41
  Speaker 3: By the way, he's got a fifth year option. You
• 29:43
  Speaker 3: still have that on the table.
• 29:44
  Speaker 5: Why are you not allowed in this league to negotiate?
• 29:50
  Speaker 5: Why are you not allowed to say, listen, we're both
• 29:53
  Speaker 5: in the game and His record, by the way, what's
• 29:57
  Speaker 5: his record since the beginning of the last year.
• 29:59
  Speaker 4: Overall record?
• 30:00
  Speaker 7: 21-5?
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: Is that what it is?
• 30:04
  Speaker 5: Best record in the NFL since the beginning of 2025?
• 30:07
  Speaker 5: It's a ridiculous number. But what do you do when
• 30:13
  Speaker 5: his contract is up? Where in the rules does it
• 30:15
  Speaker 5: say you have to give him $ 60 million?
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: Nobody says, you don't have to, Vic, but again, that's
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: the going rate for starting quarterbacks to win.
• 30:23
  Speaker 4: No, that's the market.
• 30:24
  Speaker 5: But you say to yourself, the going rate. But let
• 30:27
  Speaker 5: me ask you, how many teams out there are willing to,
• 30:30
  Speaker 5: they're watching the games. They're watching the same games we are.
• 30:33
  Speaker 5: You say that's the going rate. Is there a team
• 30:36
  Speaker 5: out there that says, okay, you won't pay him 60?
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: We will.
• 30:39
  Speaker 3: Here's my point, though. This is all moot in the
• 30:41
  Speaker 3: fact that Jonathan Taylor's contract runs through 2028. That's Bo
• 30:44
  Speaker 3: Nix's club option year. Pick up his fifth year option.
• 30:47
  Speaker 3: It's a little bit higher than a rookie contract. Okay, fine. Like,
• 30:50
  Speaker 3: who cares?
• 30:51
  Speaker 4: That's the right answer.
• 30:51
  Speaker 3: You're trying to win a Super Bowl right now. What
• 30:53
  Speaker 3: do I care about 2029?
• 30:55
  Speaker 5: And this ownership has proven you take care of them,
• 30:58
  Speaker 5: they'll take care of you.
• 30:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 30:59
  Speaker 5: Right?
• 30:59
  Speaker 4: They've proven that. That's the exact answer.
• 31:02
  Speaker 5: Don't worry about getting too rich in salary because they'll
• 31:06
  Speaker 5: take care of you eventually. But nowhere in the world
• 31:08
  Speaker 5: does it say you've got to pay him the going rate.
• 31:11
  Speaker 5: The going rate applies if the market plays in the
• 31:14
  Speaker 5: going rate. Who in the market's going to pay him that?
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 31:17
  Speaker 5: Who?
• 31:19
  Speaker 4: You tell me.
• 31:19
  Speaker 3: Look, somebody is... If he were a free agent, somebody
• 31:23
  Speaker 3: would pick him up.
• 31:24
  Speaker 5: At $ 60 million?
• 31:25
  Speaker 3: No, I don't think it's $ 60. I think it would
• 31:27
  Speaker 3: probably be somewhere in the... what did, what did Donald
• 31:30
  Speaker 3: get before he signed, before he won the Superbowl with Seattle?
• 31:32
  Speaker 3: Was it like 30, it was 30, 30, 35 a year,
• 31:35
  Speaker 3: somewhere in there, probably right around there. Like I could
• 31:38
  Speaker 3: see that. But the point is guys, like when you're
• 31:41
  Speaker 3: talking about acquiring a top five running back in the
• 31:44
  Speaker 3: league for an offense that needs help in a team
• 31:46
  Speaker 3: that truly feels like they can win a championship that
• 31:49
  Speaker 3: I don't care what the price is. It would be
• 31:50
  Speaker 3: a bargain for what your goals are. And I'll go
• 31:53
  Speaker 3: back to the Christian McCaffrey trade from four years ago
• 31:56
  Speaker 3: when Christian McCaffrey was in his prime prime. Christian McCaffrey,
• 31:59
  Speaker 3: by the way, is a receiver as much as he
• 32:02
  Speaker 3: is a running back. He's a dual threat in that sense.
• 32:05
  Speaker 3: It didn't net a first-rounder. It was a second, third, fourth,
• 32:07
  Speaker 3: and fifth in different years. If that's the price for
• 32:11
  Speaker 3: Jonathan Taylor, if I give a second and a fourth
• 32:14
  Speaker 3: next year and a third and a fifth the year
• 32:15
  Speaker 3: after that, it's a bargain for what he could potentially
• 32:18
  Speaker 3: do for your offense and for your passing game. Guess
• 32:21
  Speaker 3: what needs to happen? Whether you think he would be
• 32:23
  Speaker 3: effective with holes opening up or not, A safety now
• 32:27
  Speaker 3: thinks about Jonathan Taylor bursting through the offensive line and
• 32:30
  Speaker 3: him making a tackle. Now he can't play 20 yards
• 32:32
  Speaker 3: off the line of scrimmage. You know what I mean?
• 32:34
  Speaker 3: All of that different stuff now is in the defense's head.
• 32:37
  Speaker 3: I am begging, and we'll get more info on this.
• 32:39
  Speaker 3: We're talking to Schefter in 20 minutes. He had the
• 32:41
  Speaker 3: report on NFL Countdown on ESPN leading into the games
• 32:45
  Speaker 3: on Sunday. So we'll talk to him in just a
• 32:47
  Speaker 3: few minutes.
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: 303-504-0925.
• 32:51
  Speaker 3: We got the double dip tonight with the Avs and
• 32:54
  Speaker 3: the Nuggets. So we'll break down both of those games
• 32:56
  Speaker 3: as we go along. Sean Payton's presser at 9 o'clock.
• 32:59
  Speaker 3: All of that coming your way. Stick around. All right,
• 33:01
  Speaker 3: so Adam Schefter is going to join us in 15 minutes.
• 33:04
  Speaker 3: He'll give us the update of what's going on with
• 33:05
  Speaker 3: Jonathan Taylor because, again, I was looking around the league yesterday, guys.
• 33:12
  Speaker 3: The Colts, who, yes, they just sold off a bunch
• 33:15
  Speaker 3: of their pieces and all that stuff. I have never
• 33:18
  Speaker 3: seen a team just be like, you know what? I
• 33:19
  Speaker 3: don't feel like making money playing football today. I think
• 33:21
  Speaker 3: I'm going to just take today off.
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: Whatever. Yeah.
• 33:24
  Speaker 4: That owner's taking a lot of notes after that game.
• 33:28
  Speaker 3: I mean, that was what, like 30 to nothing at
• 33:30
  Speaker 3: halftime against the Jags and just kept going. So that's
• 33:33
  Speaker 3: one thing. Here's the other.
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: By the way, Brett, real quick, it's none of my business,
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: but I'm just curious how long she's going to take notes.
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: How many year process is this really?
• 33:45
  Speaker 5: Well, did you have those classmates who were just, I mean,
• 33:48
  Speaker 5: copious note takers.
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: Yes, I hated those people, yes.
• 33:52
  Speaker 5: I mean, I take a lot of notes, but not
• 33:54
  Speaker 5: to the point of exhaustion. Some people take notes on
• 33:57
  Speaker 5: just conversation during class.
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: And it's my fault, Vic, it's my fault, Brett, because
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: I am the laziest note taker on the planet. I've
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: never seen... Brett. Yeah.
• 34:09
  Speaker 5: Nelly. Since we've been on this show, have you ever
• 34:12
  Speaker 5: seen Mosier take pen to pad on anything?
• 34:15
  Speaker 2: Not once.
• 34:16
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 34:16
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 34:17
  Speaker 2: Oh, no, no.
• 34:18
  Speaker 3: I have, when he does his lay it down, he
• 34:20
  Speaker 3: writes a lot of notes down.
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: He does?
• 34:22
  Speaker 4: A lot of notes. I've never seen a note.
• 34:24
  Speaker 3: Only for lay it down, though.
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: That's it.
• 34:26
  Speaker 3: It speaks to your talents, too. Okay, but here's the
• 34:30
  Speaker 3: other thing, guys.
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: Mine like a steel trap.
• 34:32
  Speaker 4: Guys, listen.
• 34:32
  Speaker 3: Listen to me. Listen to what I'm about to tell you.
• 34:35
  Speaker 3: And I know you're aware of this already. The Tampa
• 34:39
  Speaker 3: Bay Buccaneers won 16 to nothing in a game where
• 34:41
  Speaker 3: they didn't complete a forward pass. In the year of
• 34:45
  Speaker 3: our Lord, 2026.
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: What?
• 34:47
  Speaker 3: In the last two weeks, Tampa Bay Buccaneers have won
• 34:50
  Speaker 3: 43 to 13 and 16 to nothing while completing seven
• 34:54
  Speaker 3: passes combined. How is that remotely possible?
• 35:00
  Speaker 8: They've put up 59 points with seven completed passes in
• 35:05
  Speaker 8: two weeks, 50 passing yards, and they beat a Falcons team.
• 35:10
  Speaker 3: Michael Panics Jr. went eight of 24 throwing the football
• 35:13
  Speaker 3: for the Falcons with four picks.
• 35:17
  Speaker 4: It's unbelievable. Because they can run the ball.
• 35:21
  Speaker 3: But still, Vic, they didn't complete a pass.
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: And they won. I'm telling you, dude. I'm telling you.
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: I said there's still a chance for the Buccaneers to
• 35:31
  Speaker 2: win this damn division. And here we are, not even
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: halfway through the season, and they're one game back. It
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: is a crap division. It's junk. Brett, you're saints. They're
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: bringing up the bottom of the barrel. They had a bye.
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: But that NFC South is just absolutely junk.
• 35:49
  Speaker 5: Their offensive line and their run game just moves people
• 35:53
  Speaker 5: out of the way.
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 35:55
  Speaker 4: I'm looking at this. You're so right. Baker Mayfield in
• 35:58
  Speaker 4: that game. And did you see the rain?
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: It was a downpour. Yes. It was a downpour.
• 36:02
  Speaker 4: It was awful.
• 36:03
  Speaker 5: Baker Mayfield went 0 for 3. A grand total of
• 36:07
  Speaker 5: 0 yards. For a passer rating of 39. But let
• 36:11
  Speaker 5: me tell you what else they did. Bucky Irving. 27
• 36:15
  Speaker 5: for 170. Kenny Gainwell, 25 for 140. 200-yard rushers in
• 36:21
  Speaker 5: the same game. When's the last time the Broncos had
• 36:24
  Speaker 5: a 100-yard rusher in a game?
• 36:28
  Speaker 4: Somebody look it up.
• 36:29
  Speaker 2: That's what they do, though. That's how they roll, Vic.
• 36:31
  Speaker 2: That's how they've been rolling. Seriously, even when Baker was out.
• 36:34
  Speaker 2: Bucky Irving is the guy, and they got plenty of guys.
• 36:39
  Speaker 3: In the Cowboys game last year, J.K. Dobbins had 111.
• 36:44
  Speaker 4: They just churn out yards on the ground, bro.
• 36:48
  Speaker 2: Hang on.
• 36:48
  Speaker 3: So listen to this, Vic. So 100-yard rushers for the
• 36:50
  Speaker 3: Broncos in a game.
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: J.K.
• 36:52
  Speaker 3: Had two of them last year. It was against the
• 36:54
  Speaker 3: Cowboys and the game against Cincinnati earlier in that year.
• 36:59
  Speaker 3: Before that, I dare you to tell me the last
• 37:02
  Speaker 3: running back that had 100 yards in a game for
• 37:05
  Speaker 3: the Broncos. It happened in 2023.
• 37:07
  Speaker 4: I'll even give you a hint.
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: 2023. Jeez. I don't know.
• 37:13
  Speaker 4: It would be just an outright guess.
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: I don't know who it is. Latavius Murray. Oh, my God. Yeah. Oh,
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: my Lord. Yeah. I've forgotten all about Latavius, man. He came,
• 37:25
  Speaker 2: you know, he was a little bit long. He's like
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: six foot four playing right now. It's fun. He was
• 37:31
  Speaker 2: a little bit long in the tooth when he got here. So,
• 37:33
  Speaker 2: you know, I, you know, my favorite Latavius Murray story.
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: He's the guy who helped recruit Sean Payton. He arrives
• 37:40
  Speaker 2: and he's gone. Yeah, it's true.
• 37:42
  Speaker 4: Right, right.
• 37:44
  Speaker 2: Later.
• 37:46
  Speaker 3: But again, you look around the league yesterday and just
• 37:48
  Speaker 3: some of these teams as we enter, you know, we're
• 37:51
  Speaker 3: a week away, a week and a day away from
• 37:53
  Speaker 3: the NFL trade deadline. And I'm just, whatever it takes,
• 37:58
  Speaker 3: whatever it takes, you get Jonathan Taylor.
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: So what you're telling me, and again, everything I've read,
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: he's truly on the market. Truly.
• 38:05
  Speaker 3: That's truly on the market.
• 38:05
  Speaker 4: Yeah, he even said it himself. He said it himself
• 38:07
  Speaker 4: after the game.
• 38:08
  Speaker 5: He spoke it into a microphone.
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: Well, wasn't it his wife who liked it? He did.
• 38:13
  Speaker 5: He even said it. He said, yep, that's probably it
• 38:16
  Speaker 5: for me here.
• 38:16
  Speaker 4: I'm out. I'm gone.
• 38:19
  Speaker 2: You have to understand, though, that if that is the case, truly,
• 38:21
  Speaker 2: if that is the case, the teams vying for his services,
• 38:26
  Speaker 2: it's going to be a dogfight. And I don't know
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: what you think he's worth, but, I mean, if you've
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: got to step up with a couple of firsts, I
• 38:35
  Speaker 2: don't know what you'd do. I know that sounds crazy,
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: but I think you're going to have a lot of suitors, Vic.
• 38:39
  Speaker 2: You're going to have a lot of teams.
• 38:40
  Speaker 3: Oh, it ain't going to be a couple of firsts, Moshe.
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: You don't think so?
• 38:43
  Speaker 3: Not for a 28-year-old running back. I mean, the price
• 38:47
  Speaker 3: might be high. It's not two first-rounders.
• 38:49
  Speaker 2: Okay, well, then I guess my point to you is
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: that how far do you go if you do get
• 38:52
  Speaker 2: in a bidding war? Hey, look, is this painting worth
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: $ 2 million? Yes. No, maybe it's worth, you know, 1.1.
• 39:00
  Speaker 2: But when you get two people who are doing this and,
• 39:03
  Speaker 2: you know, they want it badly, I mean, you just
• 39:05
  Speaker 2: have to have the right combination of teams going for
• 39:07
  Speaker 2: it and never underestimate any GM in any sport. Never
• 39:11
  Speaker 2: underestimate their ability to do something stupid to try to
• 39:14
  Speaker 2: get what they want.
• 39:14
  Speaker 5: There are other running backs out there. You guys limit
• 39:16
  Speaker 5: this to Jonathan Taylor as if he's the only.
• 39:19
  Speaker 4: One on the market. There's other options.
• 39:20
  Speaker 2: Oh, but Vicky's special. I know, but people are saying, well,
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: General Coleman, he showed out and Yeah, I mean, great catch,
• 39:27
  Speaker 2: a 51 yard catch to put you know put you
• 39:29
  Speaker 2: in position to pop it in but again we're talking
• 39:32
  Speaker 2: about people who are special Jonathan Taylor is a special
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: player special running back.
• 39:38
  Speaker 3: Yeah and and not to mention it's just I think
• 39:42
  Speaker 3: the teams that are going to be vying for him
• 39:44
  Speaker 3: if I remember right from Sunday countdown we'll ask it
• 39:46
  Speaker 3: to Schefter in 10 minutes But I think it was
• 39:48
  Speaker 3: the Broncos, the Vikings, the Packers, and the Seahawks were
• 39:51
  Speaker 3: all the teams that were kind of in on that,
• 39:54
  Speaker 3: at least as of right now. So we'll see. But
• 39:57
  Speaker 3: if you can just get an extra boost in that
• 39:59
  Speaker 3: rushing attack. I mean, one thing I think is for
• 40:01
  Speaker 3: sure now, and I hate to say this because he
• 40:04
  Speaker 3: just had the back and forth with Mike List last week,
• 40:06
  Speaker 3: and I do like the guy.
• 40:09
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm not piling on, but I know where you're going.
• 40:11
  Speaker 4: I know where you're going.
• 40:11
  Speaker 7: J.K.
• 40:12
  Speaker 4: 's done.
• 40:12
  Speaker 3: Like, it's just, you can see the burst isn't there anymore.
• 40:16
  Speaker 3: He just doesn't. that patient running that he does can
• 40:19
  Speaker 3: work if you have that burst once you put your
• 40:22
  Speaker 3: foot in the ground. He just doesn't have it. For
• 40:24
  Speaker 3: whatever reason. Injury, age, I don't know. He keeps saying,
• 40:26
  Speaker 3: I'm not old. You look kind of old when you're
• 40:29
  Speaker 3: running the football. I hate to say it.
• 40:30
  Speaker 2: I guess my question is, when do the Colts pull
• 40:32
  Speaker 2: the trigger on this? Because if it's me, I mean,
• 40:35
  Speaker 2: I want to get him in as soon as possible
• 40:36
  Speaker 2: and get him up to speed. You know what I mean?
• 40:39
  Speaker 2: Whomever gets him. But I don't want to wait until
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: after next weekend, but the Broncos will then have a bye.
• 40:44
  Speaker 2: There's plenty of time for them, I guess, to get
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: him up to speed, but I'd want to get him
• 40:48
  Speaker 2: in and get my hands on him and say, okay,
• 40:49
  Speaker 2: this is what we do, and let's utilize him as
• 40:52
  Speaker 2: much as we possibly can. Will the Colts wait until
• 40:56
  Speaker 2: the 11th hour is my question.
• 40:58
  Speaker 3: And not to mention, I think this is even more
• 41:00
  Speaker 3: of a big deal now because R.J. Harvey's out at
• 41:02
  Speaker 3: least the next four weeks. Remember, he just popped up
• 41:04
  Speaker 3: randomly on the injury report on, was it Wednesday or Thursday?
• 41:07
  Speaker 4: Unfortunate.
• 41:08
  Speaker 3: With a knee. And then they just said, yeah, he's
• 41:10
  Speaker 3: on IR. You're like, uh-oh.
• 41:13
  Speaker 5: I'm getting a lot of feedback from people saying, well,
• 41:16
  Speaker 5: you know, the Broncos did not tackle well yesterday. It
• 41:19
  Speaker 5: wasn't the ideal tackling game, but Kenneth Walker does that
• 41:22
  Speaker 5: to teams. And, hell, even Emmitt Johnson on a couple
• 41:25
  Speaker 5: of those runs made the Broncos look foolish.
• 41:28
  Speaker 4: But I will say what I always say.
• 41:30
  Speaker 5: If you're going to blame the defense, when you're on
• 41:35
  Speaker 5: the field as much as that defense had to be
• 41:37
  Speaker 5: on the field in the third quarter, eventually it catches
• 41:40
  Speaker 5: up to you, man.
• 41:41
  Speaker 4: Eventually it catches up to you.
• 41:42
  Speaker 5: You're going to feel it because the offense could not
• 41:45
  Speaker 5: sustain a drive at all.
• 41:47
  Speaker 3: Well, Raj pointed this out, Vic. What do you think
• 41:51
  Speaker 3: this is more of a byproduct of? Andy Reid and
• 41:55
  Speaker 3: the Chiefs, this is what Raj said yesterday, have so
• 41:58
  Speaker 3: little respect for Peyton Nix's Broncos offense. They punted on
• 42:01
  Speaker 3: fourth and like three inches. They have Kenneth Walker.
• 42:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 42:05
  Speaker 3: And is that... Do you think that's a respect to
• 42:09
  Speaker 3: the Broncos' defense or a disrespect to the Broncos' offense,
• 42:11
  Speaker 3: that if I just play field position, we'll be fine?
• 42:13
  Speaker 5: Well, what I found interesting in this game, more than anything,
• 42:16
  Speaker 5: the first goal round against Bo and the Broncos, they
• 42:19
  Speaker 5: blitzed almost 50% of the.
• 42:21
  Speaker 4: Time they brought pressure.
• 42:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 42:22
  Speaker 4: The Chiefs did.
• 42:23
  Speaker 5: In this game, that.
• 42:24
  Speaker 4: Number went to 6%.
• 42:26
  Speaker 5: They basically said, go ahead.
• 42:29
  Speaker 3: We'll sit back and coverage.
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 42:30
  Speaker 7: Go ahead.
• 42:31
  Speaker 3: Try and make a throw.
• 42:33
  Speaker 4: Go ahead.
• 42:34
  Speaker 3: And that's kind of where it's at. But here's what's funny. Moj,
• 42:38
  Speaker 3: if you missed this stat from earlier, I just think
• 42:40
  Speaker 3: it's crazy. So, since 1991, there have been 169 quarterbacks
• 42:46
  Speaker 3: with at least 75 passing attempts in the fourth quarter
• 42:49
  Speaker 3: when trailing by one to eight points.
• 42:51
  Speaker 2: Okay?
• 42:51
  Speaker 7: Okay.
• 42:52
  Speaker 3: Did you know that Bo Nix has the highest passer
• 42:54
  Speaker 3: rating of anybody during that time frame?
• 42:56
  Speaker 4: That's not a surprise.
• 42:58
  Speaker 3: Better than Elway? Better than Breeze? Better than Manning? Better
• 43:01
  Speaker 3: than Brady? Better than everyone?
• 43:02
  Speaker 2: Vic, Vic, it is a surprise that he's number one. Now,
• 43:07
  Speaker 2: with the way he's been performing these past two-plus years,
• 43:10
  Speaker 2: late in games and the way he gets it done,
• 43:13
  Speaker 2: then I could say, yeah, he's got to be up
• 43:16
  Speaker 2: there someplace. But to say he's number one, that is surprising.
• 43:21
  Speaker 3: But I say that to tell you, Moj, we all
• 43:25
  Speaker 3: see the problems the Broncos offense has. We see the
• 43:28
  Speaker 3: three and outs every drive in the third quarter. But
• 43:31
  Speaker 3: you know what else is crazy? There were two of
• 43:34
  Speaker 3: 11 on third down conversions in this game. But there
• 43:37
  Speaker 3: were two of two on fourth. And they've been four
• 43:40
  Speaker 3: and four on two-point conversions this year.
• 43:43
  Speaker 2: Do me a favor and try to figure this out.
• 43:46
  Speaker 2: Remember that one-third three and out, and they had the
• 43:49
  Speaker 2: pass to Waddle that just fell into the dirt? Remember that? Yeah. Okay.
• 43:53
  Speaker 2: The guy who made that pass is the guy who
• 43:56
  Speaker 2: then led you on consecutive scoring drives late in the
• 43:59
  Speaker 2: fourth quarter to go on. Yep. The guy who just
• 44:03
  Speaker 2: fluttered it into the turf, into the dirt, into Mother Earth.
• 44:06
  Speaker 2: You know what I liken it to? What is it?
• 44:09
  Speaker 4: I liken it to this.
• 44:12
  Speaker 5: The only similarity I see out there in the world
• 44:14
  Speaker 5: is how Moj on this radio show is so bad,
• 44:18
  Speaker 5: and yet when he gets on the hockey broadcast, he's
• 44:20
  Speaker 5: so good.
• 44:22
  Speaker 3: You know what we call that, Moj? That's called Brett
• 44:24
  Speaker 3: Cain golf. an eagle followed by a triple.
• 44:27
  Speaker 2: You just don't know. You don't know? It's like, let's
• 44:30
  Speaker 2: put it this way. It's like Jamal Murray, you know,
• 44:32
  Speaker 2: he's 2 of 10 from three-point range through three quarters.
• 44:35
  Speaker 2: Then in the fourth quarter, he's like 6 of 6, right?
• 44:39
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 44:40
  Speaker 2: Or 8 of 8 in the fourth quarter, and he
• 44:43
  Speaker 2: ends up with, you know, 39 points and you pull
• 44:45
  Speaker 2: out the dub. That's kind of what it's like to me.
• 44:48
  Speaker 3: So we'll get back to this in a bit. Adam
• 44:50
  Speaker 3: Schefter breaks down these Jonathan Taylor trade rumors in the
• 44:54
  Speaker 3: weekend that was in the NFL next.