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NBA Hits New Low · Sports Exchange

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Didn't mean everybody. I'll welcome to another edition of US Sports Exchange. My
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name is Scott Mortar off the Motor City mad Mouth. Great crew to lined
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up tonight. We have our Wednesday crew. We got Jacob Christner, our
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Pundit's pundit pal. Welcome back to Jacob, Thank you, welcome, appreciate
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it. And George I for a long time, No see what a few
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minutes, A few minutes, Jack, good to be back on, Scott.
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And we got Travis Holmes, our newest versatile performer. One minute you
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see him on Inside Depicted. In the next minute you see him on that
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Sports Echange. Good stuff, Travis as at matter where you see me.
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I'm happy to be here and I'm hoping it's gonna be a wonderful time.
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And he's what he's without Bacon. Well, you don't have to worry,
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Travis. We've been working together a long time. We do the very best
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that we can to try to keep it entertaining and real. Let me go
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over a couple of basic things here real quick. We're gonna be talking about
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the NBA All Star Game. The reason why we name this episode NBA hits
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New Low. All you gotta do is look at that score and thatt to
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you a little bit of fun with Justin Fields talk about the PAC twelve during
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a new commissioner of the Vikings and everybody's got it parting shots tonight. But
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First topic, Well, there's the reason why we titled the show the NBA
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hits New Low the East to eleven the West. Three hundred ninety seven points
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scored between the two teams and only five free throws taken by a combined for
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both of these teams. All right, Travis, you're the lucky one that
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gets to talk about this first. I mean you said his new low,
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I say his new high. Either way is if you're going to have a
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video game based, basic video game All Star game, why not make it
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into a legitimate video game scenario, Like if you want people walking out of
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the door thinking Harlem Glove trotters and not thinking NBA. That's basically what this
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was. This was an NBA jam with no defense. That's essentially what it
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came down to. You know, highest scoring All Star game in history.
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You know, Damian Lillard what thirty nine points, six assists. He became
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the first person to win the three point Contest and the All Star Game in
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the same season. But eleven of those shots were from three, even one
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from half court. Again, that's video game members. This is what they
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wanted to be. Unfortunately, I guess this is what the corporate overlords seem
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to want in the NBA realm, man, I can't judge them, because
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honestly, the NFL and every other sport is kind of going through these same
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lows with trying to figure out how to keep it exciting, how to keep
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it new, how to keep it good for the younger crowd. I actually
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enjoyed the three point contest between the w NBA and the NBA with Steph Curry
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versus Stephanie La. Yeah, well that's good. There you go, like
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that was that was entertaining, so that that probably couldn't have gone better than
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they would have hoped, so that that was a really good situation overall.
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But to your point, if you're looking for defense, if you're looking for
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real NBA, you know basketball, you this wasn't that. That's for sure.
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Okay, Well you know I didn't watch it, so I didn't have
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to worry about it. I haven't watched an NBA game in a long time
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in terms of the All Star Game, and I have zero interest in it.
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I'm sure I may alienate an NBA fan or two here and there,
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but to me, I remember when basketball you had the real stars, like
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the Park Lays and Thomas Jordan's and the list goes on. Those are the
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guys we're seeing. I'm not saying that today's group of talent isn't very good.
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The great athletes are phenomenal athletes. The only thing wrong with the NBA
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these days got a load of management, okay, which they have to play
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sixty five games just to get an award, okay, which I think that
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number should be seventy. Okay, but they got off easy. But keeping
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on point with the All Star game, that's just too many points. Three
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hundred ninety seven. And let me even take these numbers a little bit more
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interesting. Okay, one team goes eighty for one hundred and forty three in
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field goals for fifty six percent. The other one is eighty three for one
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forty six or fifty seven percent. Let's talk about three point numbers, twenty
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five or seventy one, thirty five percent, forty three percent for forty two
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of ninety seven. I mean, these are numbers that are unbelievable numbers.
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And then we're talking about assists, sixty to forty six offensive rebounds. Time
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I to worry about those numbers. But when you just think of the fact
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that between the field goals and three pointers and then you look at the few
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free throws, you know, George Eigburn, that's a recipe for Maaster in
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terms of, you know, the way I really believe things are, in
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terms of where this league is coming terms. I mean, I don't think
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anybody can get the All Star Game right these days, but the NBA scenes
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have gotten it worse than anybody. No, You're absolutely right, Scott,
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and give me the days of long ago. I've been fortunate enough to be
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attending three or four All Star Games, the one here at the Pontiac Silverrome,
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and then of course I went to the one in Chicago, the one
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in Cleveland and won in Indy. Not recently. I'm talking about years and
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years ago. Like Scott said, when we covered all those other big names.
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This has just gotten out of hand, guys. I mean, you
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cannot expect America to get excited the sporting world about this kind of stuff.
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Okay, That's all it was was how many free pointers, like you said,
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Scott, can I put up? How many slam dunks or crazy baskets
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can we make. There's no defense obviously like that. One of the best
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referees was the Lee referee, Tony Brothers. And like you said, I
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mean those referees weren't even calling any falls. There were no falls to call.
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But I think this is a rebuke of Adam Silver. And I'll tell
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you why. Silver made an effort of trying to make this All Star game
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a little better than the ones we've been used to, which were again high
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scoring games the last several seasons. And he made an effort to try to
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get the Players' Association the players to agree to just kind of I don't know
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what the agreement was, but obviously Silver looks like he's got egg on his
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face because they totally ignored him. If he was trying to get the score
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lower it that didn't work, trying to have more passing or whatever the gist
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of it was. But Silver looks bad on this. And now you know
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you're talking about possible solutions. They talked about maybe they'll do a World versus
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USA format, or maybe they'll do like three on three format or four on
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four or some crazy ideas, and some ideas floated around. But yeah,
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this is not working. I don't mind the other stuff. All Star Saturday.
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I think that's great. The long distance shooting slam dunk contests are still
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popular, but the game itself. No, this is not an attraction.
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It's a detraction of your product. And Adam Silber, you got to go
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back to the drawing board and try something different. I wish David Stern was
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a commissioner, that's all I'll say. Yeah, miss him a lot,
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all right, Jacob Okay, first off, let me say this about Abreena.
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I am nescut. I'm proud of her. For one thing, she
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had the guts to do the twenty three to nine instead of telling Steph to
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go twenty two. She had the guts to do it and almost beat him.
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And she and considering, and you know she would have to do it,
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considering Caitlin Clark beat the record with a forty footer in there, so
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she had that thing. But here's another thing. Why we're having this.
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There's no question hidering the walking condom from the gas station bathroom, Adam silver
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said. Considering all that, considering, he said, I didn't like the
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nineties. It was too wrath for me with his low testosterone looks him saying
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all that, considering all that, there's no question in my mind, with
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the amount of fouls they called that are tickie tack, with the amount of
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things that they're going for, and you know, having these little contests,
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he wants to merge the leagues in ten years of fifteen years. He wants
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but men and women together, which would be a disaster, Which would absolutely
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be a disaster. But this is his low testosterone way, and that's the
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This is his low testosterone way. He wants to be able to get that.
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There's no question, there's no question. He was raised by women,
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all women. He can't stand being a man. He probably wants to treat
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he probably he probably wants a transition somewhere in along the line. You know,
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he wants to wear a dress you'll borrow from Calen Williams. Right,
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Okay, let's keep either way. I love I'm What I'm saying though,
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is this is horrible. But this isn't gonna be ours anymore. Our team
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are, This isn't gonna be our league anymore, unfortunately. Okay, but
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where you were going was a dangerous path. Okay, I'm just letting you
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know that you were going, Okay, the reality is we're talking about the
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All Star Game. We're talking three hundred and ninety seven points. When you
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get everything in your power, Jacob, to realize that arithmetic didn't hit your
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head on this number here. But okay, I think that's the reason.
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I think the reasoning was. That's where it started. That's why I was
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going with though those high red numbers, no fowls. That's why I was
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thinking that. I don't understand. The leagues are always I don't care what
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anybody says. Okay, no matter who's in charge. Okay, w n
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b A will always be the w n b A, the NBA will always
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be the NBA. And say, why I'm stopping you in your tracks on
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this because the WNBA is designed to keep those buildings busy during the off season,
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and the NBA does what they've got to do in many of those where
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they share buildings. So where you were going was a quick halt, and
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that's why I stopped it right there. There comes a point, Jacob,
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And I'm just telling you, like we always do on all of our shows,
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that when we talk about a specific topic, I like candid talk.
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I really do. I think it's great that we all a voice our opinions,
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but sometimes we have to be objective and take care the business that's at
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hand. That's what we talk about. That three hundred and ninety seven points
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is absurd. And that's the only All Star game. I haven't been to,
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believe or not. I've been to the Pro Bowl, I've been to
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the NHL Star Game, been to one MLB All Star Game, but not
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the NBA. There wasn't a point when the NBA All Start Game was good
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when you have a lot of when you had some defense, big bodies,
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playmakers, you had every thing. Now what do you have? And and
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think about what the coaches had to deal with here to watch this? Yeah,
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can you? Well, Larry Larry Bird was trying to tell them in
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the morning of that game, trying to work hard, please try to work
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hard. They didn't. I'm with you all the way, and I'll have
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some opinions about that later on. Okay, but you're right, no,
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no question about it. So everybody spoke on this one. Yep, yep,
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make sure. Okay, all right, Well we'll go to Jacob's favorite
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neck of the woods. Okay, Justin Field's unfollows the Chicago Bears on social
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media. I know Travis is smiling from here all the way to the end
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of time. So we'll let the smiling man talk about it first. I
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mean, well, uh, he was actually on what was the the It
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was some podcasts earlier today. I'm not it was, and it was Decaminius
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and Show Thank You. I'm like, I couldn't find the name of it,
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but I remember watching the video earlier today in which he was asked a
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question directly, Hey, what's what's going on with you on following the Bears,
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and he basically leaned into I don't I just I'm going on vacation mode.
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I don't want to see all this talk about whether or not I'm going
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to be on the team, or whether or not they're going to be drafting
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Caleb, et cetera, et cetera. So I simply unfollowed the team.
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I unfollowed the NFL also, And while I can see that argument and maybe
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even on some level understand it, I also don't believe it, like if
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that makes sense, because you know, just because you're not following Chicago Bears,
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just because you're not following the NFL, does not mean that these subjects
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aren't on your timeline, especially when you are who you are. Let's be
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honest, like, there's way too many hundreds, if not thousands of people
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that are tagging you in these conversations. You're still seeing them. So it
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was a great response on the spot during the middle of a podcast and everything
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else, and some people might even believe you, but in reality we know
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that's not. It's more likely than not he wants to see how everything lands,
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and they've already had a lot of those conversations in house that probably indicate
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that he's not going to be back with Chicago, as my guess. But
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again, good professional veteran response on his part. That's okay, you know
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what, I incorporated this topic in here. Number one, I know Jacobs
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on any show that I can put a Chicago reference, and I'm gonna do
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it anyways. And number two, it's a fun topic and I'll turn it
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over to take him at George in a moment. I know that he's ten
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and twenty eight as a starter, I don't care. When you're concerning how
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awful of teams that he had around him, I'm surprised it's not even worse
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than that. I like Justin Fields as a quarterback, and I still think
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they should keep them and let Caleb go somewhere else, even though I don't
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think that's going to happen, but I do believe it. I mean,
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you know, but I like Justin Fields. I think he was just messing
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around with the Bears and having a good time. It was lighthearted and he
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could do it and get so much talk out of especially knowing that the draft
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and many of us are going to be there in Detroit in a couple of
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months. Anyways, that's all white art. I like Justin Fields, I
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really do. He deserves a better fate than when he's gotten so far in
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Chicago. But he's going to be an excellent quarterback wherever he lands. Oh
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he stays for Chicago or somewhere else, period. You're all right in my
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book, Justin Fields. All right, now, we'll turn it over to
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mister Christmas Travis. You's follow me on Twitter. You have to know what
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I believe on this. But here here's the thing I've got to I've gotten
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to just to let you know. The next day or two, Scott,
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You've got another thing coming. It's about the Chicago Bears. In the fields
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and Kleb Williams Steele, I've got another and you've got one coming. And
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I'm saying this part part of my writing says this, The Bears do not
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I'm gonna have a twenty year thing in his shirtain amount of time telling why
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the Bears do not have any ructure for this guy or any of the others
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they ever got, Why Patrick Mahomes would have been a failure in Chicago,
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why all of this, every ounce of this is based off of so many
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past problems. And the thing is, I don't hate Justin as a man.
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I don't think he's a great guy. I think he's a hard worker.
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I hate his fans. I hated Justin field swifties. I can't stand
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them. And they're the ones. They are the delusions. They're the ones
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that booed Andy Dalton Now out of the stadium to try to get him in
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when he wasn't ready. All they wanted was their YouTube highlights. They didn't
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care about winning. So I want him gone to suff make them suffer.
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But if, okay, if it's between Justin and Caleb, oh Justin all
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day, I'm just gonna say that I want no Caleb Williams. There not
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a chance, no way. I don't want a dress coming down the hallway
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going at the Super Bowl to try to get to try to get hits.
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I don't want that. I know Justin. I know Justin's a warrior,
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so I know that. But if it's going to be between the fans alway
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that I want a front. I want a free agent, and I want
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somebody that's going to help that team start winning. Now. You know though,
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I like her word about a warrior, because that's exactly what fil says.
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He is a warrior. That's what I've been toward what he's doing toward
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all right, George, Well, yeah, it is kind of weird the
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way he did that. Obviously, the social media I'm liking the Chicago Bears
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kind of a weird thing. But I think, yeah, I think he's
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just playing around with everybody with that. I know that. Uh he said
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he wants to say. He says, of course, of course I want
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to stay. I can't see myself playing in another place. But if it
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were up to me, I would want to stay in Chicago. I love
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the city. The city's lit. I don't know if that means lights,
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and they're great and the people. It's a business. I ain't got no
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control over it. Whatever happens happened. And that's true, that's true.
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I mean, you know, this is the situation. Okay, you didn't
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give him the supporting cast he deserved nor needed, so you're not it's not
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fair. It's not fair for management to blame everything on him. But there
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is part of me that says, maybe they do have to make a break
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because if there is so much bad blood and there is so much uh you
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know, back room Wheeland and Delan and who's gonna play and who's not and
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what kind of game are we going to play? I mean, let's face
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it, he has had a tough, tough row in the Bears at Soldier
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Field. I wouldn't be surprised if they've told him ahead of time they're trying
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to trade him. But I also wouldn't be surprised if they decided to keep
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them. And I'll tell you why, because there's still a lot of great
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football. I agree with Scott. There's a lot of great football in this
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young man, a lot of great, great talent in this young man,
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and he has had a treacherous the last few years. Obviously, as have
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all the beer fans. I get it. I get it. I'd be
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upset too if I had that kind of losing way going on the last several
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years. But like you said, Jacob, I don't think Taylor Williams is
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going to be the answer. I don't really think until they get this whole
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thing straightened out, you know what they want to do. There's still some
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time. Okay, the draft is still a less than two months away now,
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but all right around two months here in Detroit. But the bottom line
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is is I like Justin too as a man. I like him as a
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football player, and there's definitely a place for him in this league, no
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question about it. And he's just had to endure some really bad situations with
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the supporting cast in Chicago. You've spoken on sorry, haven't, yes,
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sir, so, I just want to make sure that everybody's got what they
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have. The reality is that you can't. You think Caleb Williams is gonna
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be any better than him? I don't think so. I think he's a
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step back. I really do. I mean, when you think about what
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happened in USC the last two years, right, great record than they were
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above me the ogre last year, and I was going into Chicago. Really,
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I mean I I think the best thing that could happen for Justin Field's
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sake is he goes somewhere else to get a fresh start. I don't know
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how much bad one that really is, but if you really want him out
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of there that bad, I'm sure he's more than willing to leave. Let
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me tell you, man, real fast, just real quickly. Here's the
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thing. This is a This is a little uh. This is just a
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little bit of a quick thing of what you'll see on when I'm write the
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other night. If people want to play the whole oh Mahomees, imagine Mahobes
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in Chicago, we'd have six. Also, they want to play that whole
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Madden and Fantasy football idea. Here's the thing that would have made that work,
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Bruce Arians. I've seen six with him, but I'm saying they have
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been a super Bowl somewhere, Bruce Arians, because he was a quarterback.
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You have counselor on that kind of thing until you get until the Bears learned
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to get real coaching with a real offense that would get something like this.
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Now all this is a pipe dream. Well, you want to bring up
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Bruce areas name George, and I know the name all too all. Tom
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Moore right on the better offensive minds on the planet either Tom Moore wherever he
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goes pretty strong offensive. So but in the end, I like the fact
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that he's just toying around with social media. I don't think anybody takes me
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seriously. But thanks Justin for giving us a nice topic to get Jacob's goat.
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I like getting Jacob's goat. And there's another one that might get you
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don't understand, Travis. When I come up with topics of Jacob, it's
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a lot different with him than anybody else. But I'm looking for all ways
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to get his goat and get him talking, because ever since we lost Rick
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Curry, Jacob has turned out to be our new mister opinion and I just
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don't do this like he did. Well, Okay, you sold your own
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all right, let's let's move out to the West Coast. Okay. PAC
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twelve's board of directors hired Teresa Gold as their new conference commissioner. She previously
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served as Pack twelve Deputy Commissioner and Associate commissioner of the West Coast Conference.
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She's first commissioner of an Economy five conference replaces George clac Cluff On March one,
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twenty twenty four. All Right, Travis r. Here talks about good
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old Teresa. I mean to make something out of this conference. I mean
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she she seems qualified, and I mean the good on her on that piece,
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as far as you know her experience and such, and she has the
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familiar she's familiar with the teams remaining in the conference. But if I can
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just be honest with you, thanks from high heavens. Though overall, like
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not her hiring specifically, just the fact that it just feels like she's being
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hired to try to salvage a sinking ship. I mean, there's two teams,
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it's a it's a conference. It's a conference of two teams. It
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is it's it's a it's a it's a rowboat with no boat. I don't
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even know how to establish that. Like, yeah, I guess maybe without
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without any ores of it's wild in that way. So I'm like, I'm
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it feels like when you were any said number of minorities in any year that's
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hired to take on this job that you know is just terrible, and you
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know they're probably in this position where this is a one you know, they're
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going to be there for one year, they're going to be fired the next
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year, like let's say the Carolina Panthers or the Houston Texans or fill in
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the blank. Like this is just one of those situations where I don't know
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how you salvage that from her perspective. And again, she seems qualified,
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so it's not that's not a mirror. That's not putting a mirror on her.
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Is just kind of one of those jobs where good luck, because man,
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I don't know how you bring that back, and hopefully they, you
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know, something happens with that whole you know, those negotiations they were trying
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to have with the you know, Mountain West or something along those lines.
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But I just don't know how you bring that back from two teams to a
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legitimate conference over the next you know, five ten years. Well they've got
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about two years to get it right to begin with. So I don't know
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where they're going to get those teams. And I'm sure one of these days
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we'll probably talk about it either here from in scientifiction where you're at anyways,
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Well, Reere, you rotate back and forth, Travis, But I look
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at it. The opportunity for her is she's on house money. Okay,
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this thing is at the bottom. They can't get any worse than it is
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now. And anything that she could go to make it better, more power
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to her. But here's the other thing about her. If she finds a
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way to do exactly that, then this could open up more opportunities for women
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to become commissioners of a prospective conference as well. This could be groundbreaking as
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well. And she know only that this situation is as bad as it gets,
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all right, Jacob, Well absolutely, But you guys have heard me
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say this in on Basic on other sports exchanges and pundits, pundits before we
25:22
brought up Kim Ing, and you know, the whole situation pro out and
25:25
everything. This kind of a reminder because Kim Ing had thirty years in baseball
25:30
before she got that. She had started in nineteen ninety with the with the
25:33
White Sox, and then she got that job basically when the when the Marlins
25:38
were down. So, like you said, house money and stuff like that,
25:44
she did well, but then they wanted to they wanted to give her
25:47
some quote unquote help and if she left, good for her, because she
25:52
was already doing a good job. Why they need to give her help?
25:53
This is what this already feels like. They're gonna give this, give her
25:57
two teams. It's up to her to go get something. If she does
26:00
well, are they going to give her quote unquote help like you did kim
26:04
Ing? And is she going to go somewhere else? That's the big thing
26:07
with something like this. You're giving her an almost impossible situation. Can she
26:11
make it possible? That's the good question with it? And like two teams
26:17
left, here's the deal. Could it be the pack eight? Could she
26:19
go get some other teams to make it a pack eight? Pats? You
26:22
can't make it six, you really can't because you need the conferences. But
26:26
could you make it a pack eight like it used to be the big eight
26:29
way back in the day. Can that's her job to do right now?
26:32
And there will be some lesser teams, there's no question. But you know
26:36
something, she has nothing to lose. Just see what's going on. Let's
26:38
see how she does. Will they do the same to her that they did
26:41
the kim Ing? Though? Well, here's the thing. Let me that's
26:45
a great point. It used to be the pack ten many years ago.
26:48
Anyway, so if you have a pack eight or pack ten, so what
26:51
all, it'll be where it once was, just to salvage something. So
26:55
you're on a couple of good points charge finish it off. Yeah, and
27:00
I'm very excited for her. You know, she's got a good knowledge of
27:03
college athletics. They say, she's really been committed to know the student athlete
27:10
model, and she's got an opportunity. But the problem is, like you
27:15
guys said, obviously we don't have enough schools in the PAC twelve. She's
27:22
got a good background though, like you know, like I said, you
27:25
know, she joined the PAC twelve I think back in twenty eighteen. They
27:27
said she was overseeing the league's championship events as well as compliance and governance and
27:33
operations, those kinds of things. So she's got a solid background. I'm
27:38
glad, you know that they broke a barrier here for a major conference hiring
27:45
her. I wish her well. She's going to have her work cut out.
27:48
As you guys have already explained, George Clevoff did not do a good
27:55
enough job. He did not get that big television contract, which is something
28:00
at for a Power five conference you really had to do and unfortunately, uh
28:04
you know, the whole roof fella, and so to speak, as as
28:07
one by one these teams are peeling out of the Pac twelve and joining the
28:12
you know, the likes of the Big ten, acc in the Big twelve.
28:15
So I tell you what, she does have a lot of work to
28:18
do, but this is an opportunity for her and and I look at it
28:23
as a chance to uh be like a trendsetter. You know, this is
28:29
something that we've never seen before as far as a Power five commissioner for female.
28:34
So I'm looking forward to seeing what she can do. But it is
28:37
tough. I mean obviously you lost you know, most of your teams here,
28:41
so we'll see what happens. But I do wish her the best of
28:45
luck. Hey, George, that's cute that you still call them Power five
28:55
two and a half. Yeah, you know what, you just getting the
29:00
mindset where you're used to saying it. They say autonomy of five conference.
29:03
I haven't heard that term before until now. But you know, sometimes you
29:07
have to understand sometimes or just creatures that have as what we are, you
29:11
know, Like when I was over at USF over the weekend watching FAU against
29:15
US, they call it some yingling center. I don't know. I guess
29:18
they call it a beer. For me, it will always be the Sundome.
29:22
So I'm not going to go there. But that's how it is.
29:23
I yeling. I never heard of yingling before. Yeah, yeah, well
29:29
that shows you where I'm at. Okay. So like it's just like you
29:33
know, me yingling okay, and all these other things I don't know.
29:36
Like I didn't know that Reddit thing either. Everybody's laughing at me. I
29:38
don't know this. Let me come on, hey, let me tell you
29:41
not to get off the subject too much here. But Mark Harmon, my
29:45
wife, has really got me addicted to this n CIS show. And you
29:48
know, Mark Harmon and I were kind of like old school, you know
29:49
what. He asked on the air one time, what is a hashtag?
29:56
And sometimes I don't think to myself, what is that hashtag? Me?
29:59
I didn't know what these things work till I started doing all this podcastinginess.
30:03
God, it's tick tat toe all right, Well, I like that.
30:07
That's a good one. Man. I don't pass judgment on anybody. Man,
30:11
you guys, I mean, you may not know what a hashtag is.
30:15
Meanwhile, these new kids don't know what a floppy diss or her phone
30:18
isn't kidding. That's a great point, that's a great line. You'll have
30:22
to say that one for our other colleagues on the other show. But none
30:26
of us would even know what a I'll tell you when you talk about inside
30:32
the pigs can know. And yes, and you know j b Ellis is
30:34
with us tonight, but Travis Omes is always there when we need him.
30:38
These two shows are solely different, aren't they, Travis? When you know
30:41
you got Mel, you got Coach Bono, and you got Bow on there
30:45
and of course yours truly, so you know, we just have totally different
30:48
crews. We really really do. But that's what makes it all so fun
30:52
when you get to interact with more and more people. But hashtags. Seriously,
30:56
I didn't even know but half this stuff wasn't until I got in that
31:00
there's new media stuff. So speaking of wohich okay, I want to just
31:04
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31:34
All right, final topic of the night. The Minnesota Vikings are unwilling
31:38
to give Kirk Cousins a fully guaranteed contract. So let's find out from everybody
31:45
who're a good landing spots. We'll start off at Georgia sign. Well,
31:52
I'm a little bit disappointed. I mean, if the Vikings are going to
31:55
play hardball like this, they're going to lose a good guy. Of course,
31:59
I had the privilege of watching Kirk play, you know, for the
32:02
MSHU Spartans and Mark Dantonio. He did a great job. Kirk has been
32:07
a really a good leader. I know he's not in the upper echelon in
32:13
many people's eyes, obviously of the Holmes, Mahomes and formerly Tom Brady and
32:21
you know, but I just I don't know, you know, you talk
32:23
about a landing spot I'm sure there's a lot of good teams out there,
32:27
but I still would like to see them work something out with him to keep
32:30
them there in Minnesota. I mean, but you did see obviously what happened
32:36
with Green Bay, and a lot of people didn't expect that to happen.
32:38
Love had a really solid year and led them to a wild card playoff,
32:43
and I think that given some extra tools and if Kirk is one hundred percent
32:50
healthy, I mean, he's a good leader. I mean, there's any
32:52
number of teams that might want to take a chance on him. I really
32:55
digested how many of them are looking to for a new quarterback. Obviously you
33:00
got you know, you got the division rival in Chicago, but that that
33:05
wouldn't happen. They wouldn't trade, they wouldn't swap quarterbacks. I know that's
33:08
not gonna happen, But I don't know. I just you know, I
33:12
haven't given it too much thought, Scott, but I would think that Minnesota
33:15
would be smart enough to try to work something out. If they can't,
33:20
there's any number of teams that would would would be interested in taking a look
33:22
at him because he is a great person, a great leader, and uh,
33:28
you know, surrounded by the right cast. I still think he can
33:30
lead a team to the Super Bowl. Maybe I'm dreaming, Maybe I'm daydreaming.
33:34
I don't know, but I like Cousins and be interested to see what
33:38
you guys have to say about where you think he might land west As you
33:43
don't know, you're not getting another turn to contribute, So this is your
33:46
moment in the sun to either take a shot at it or hold your piece.
33:52
So I know one guy who probably does, knowing his mine is Old
33:54
Travis Right. Well, I mean I'm probably going with someone like the Commander,
34:00
someone who has a boat loaded cap space, and they absolutely have a
34:07
need for a top quarterback. Now, again to your point earlier, whether
34:10
or not he's going to be healthy, that is obviously important for the coming
34:17
season. But again that Commander's team is also kind of hit and miss,
34:21
whether or not, depending on who you ask, whether or not they're in
34:22
a position to realistically compete next year in either case, So that could be
34:29
a situation where you sign Cousins, you bring in another guy just to have,
34:34
you know, a bridge, or in case he's not one hundred percent
34:37
or whatever it may be. And you also have the Patriots who also have
34:40
that kind of cap space. But I personally think that they're going to get
34:44
something done and may not be a fully guaranteed contract. It just may be
34:47
something where it's you know, mostly guaranteed with some kind of incentive. It
34:53
just feels like he'd want to stay where he's built up the majority. I
34:58
mean, the man has two hundred plus million, two hundred and forty million
35:01
dollars that he's made throughout his career, and most of that from Minnesota.
35:06
I would hope he could take a small haircut just to stay in you know,
35:10
stay in Minnesota. To me, it makes way more sense than uprooting
35:15
everything kind of doing it again somewhere else. Okay, what about you,
35:20
Jacob George, don't kill my dreams, chuck up. No, I want
35:30
because it's no question. But see this is my I'm absolutely gonna have this
35:34
day dream. I want cousins there in Chicago because I want a lower draft
35:39
pick to be able to develop for once in our lives. Not saying he's
35:44
gonna win any Super Bowls, but just build towards something for once. But
35:47
here's the here's the thing, Travis, if you ask him to take a
35:52
small haircut, they'll chop his head off. This is the way that these
35:57
owners do it. He's a front officers due it to athletes. We hate
36:01
that these athletes get so much. People talk about it. But if you
36:05
ask them to not get to see that, you know, to take a
36:07
little haircut or take this little thing, they get chopped. There's a you
36:12
know, as I said, you ask him, okay, I'll take a
36:14
little bit of a cut, they get an amputation. It's you can't you
36:17
can't trust anybody. And so I understand where he's at. But if there's
36:23
anything, if there's any place, if it's not Chicago, and I'm dreaming
36:30
of Denver, you know Denver, I mean they've got mile high that mile
36:35
high air would be beautiful for him. He probably get five thousand yards.
36:38
I mean. But Kirk Cousins is literally the legend at the bank like.
36:43
He is not like a like for quarterbacks. He is the legend at the
36:46
bank like. He's the guy who was never taking that hometown. This guy,
36:50
he's the guy who set the stage. He's he prepared the table for
36:54
all quarterbacks on these fully guaranteed contracts. So he's probably he's probably not that
37:00
guy that's going to take that hometown discount. But a brother can dream.
37:04
Well, think about it. The guy playing on what two franchise tags and
37:07
got Minnesota to give him a couple of guaranteed contracts. He's smarter than anybody
37:10
out there. I can tell you what he's not. He's not Latrell's Freewell
37:15
where he can't have enough money to feed my family. He's got plenty of
37:19
money to deplete his family, that's for sure. But the two places I
37:22
would actually consider looking at him would be number one. I've already mentioned the
37:28
Commanders. I think that that would be a possibility. But the wild card
37:30
here is Atlanta. It really really is. I mean, you know,
37:35
you need to have a new coach there. Hold on shake ub Okay,
37:38
okay. Otherwise, my father in law said that there's that thing called duct
37:44
tape. I'll have to make sure we send it to the computer and give
37:45
it to you once in a while. I don't know how to do that.
37:49
If I ever do that, I could patent a thing like that.
37:52
I'm going to Hawaii and taking my other hash. He can go out there
37:54
and work at the Hawaiian Bank for all I care. And by the way,
38:00
Maley's not a bad place for Kawhi if you can get to it.
38:04
But no, seriously, Atlanta would be under Raheem Morris. They need a
38:07
quarterback there anyways, that would be a good fit. And I like the
38:10
commanders this time around, you have a new dang Quinn. So either of
38:15
those two, I could see. Denver would be an interesting match. With
38:19
the altitude and they and the air out there, he could air it out
38:22
and do it effortlessly. S all right, well you know what we're gonna
38:27
do. We're gonna go to a party. Shots, all right, Travis
38:30
lead off, or actually I'm gonna lead off, but I'm afraid of Jacob.
38:32
Okay, I'm afraid of Jacob. My parting shot is something that he
38:37
kind of got a little shot in, So I'm gonna get in there.
38:39
First. Three days ago, Larry Bird said that he wanted players to play
38:44
hard in the in the All Star Game in Indianapolis. Evidently they didn't get
38:50
the message and the players didn't play defense. So let me add to that
38:52
thought a little bit. You're hearing it from a guy that joined the league
38:58
with Magic Johnson and the NBA was on tape delay. Okay, do you
39:04
think that he wants to see the NBA go down. Now we'll get on
39:07
tape to lay. I don't think that'll ever happen. But I'll tell you
39:10
one thing. The NBA is slowly hitting new lows with some of the things
39:16
that are happening here. I didn't the playing tournament. I acclimated to that
39:22
a bet. I didn't like the n Season Tournament. I think that was
39:24
an absolute gaff. And now this All Star Game and load management. I've
39:31
never seen a league that was so high, okay start to develop lows,
39:37
especially as they approach trying to get another television contract. So Larry Bird,
39:43
Magic Johnson fixed it. And these guys are doing an incredible job here running
39:47
it all right, Travit's go ahead. Oh yeah. Well my parting shot
39:52
was for anyone who hasn't seen Charlie Baker, the NCAA President, had an
39:58
interview with ESPN yesterday where they're just basically discussing everything under the sun about the
40:04
different rules or the different laws that are currently in committee within Congress and how
40:08
that may impact the NCAA coming down the line, things of that nature,
40:14
and at the core of it, all of it, he was basically just
40:15
saying like they're hoping to get something done this year maybe, if not,
40:20
maybe next year within Congress because the way that everything currently is set up is
40:25
there's not a real sustainable path forward with all the legal challenges that college athletes
40:32
are posing across the nation's you know, state by state, with the transfer
40:37
process, with whether or not they're employees versus with the NIL process, et
40:40
cetera. It's all a mess, and it's all been a mess because of
40:43
those original basically started through lawsuits, through litigation, and anyone who's ever seen
40:51
how the government works or how the legal system works, they'll tell you what's
40:54
right and wrong, and they don't tell you how to do it after the
40:55
fact. You have to figure that out, and that's sort of our NIL
41:00
process is sort of a mess right now. So I thought it was a
41:02
really interesting interview for anyone, for anyone who hasn't seen it, I feel
41:06
like that would be a great conversation for another podcast. But at the core
41:09
of it is there's a lot of laws that are currently pending in Congress or
41:15
in committee, and they could have some really significant impacts on the NCAA moving
41:19
down the line. For those other sports outside of football. Well done,
41:24
okay, Becca. Something tells me with the whole Larry Bird thing that they're
41:30
setting him up for the future to be like an ambassador for the league and
41:35
for product. Because when you listen to all like I listened to an interview
41:39
with him Isaiah Thomas and Reggie Miller, I saw it yesterday. Actually,
41:44
it's a really good interview, forty eight minutes long. It's on YouTube.
41:47
And when you listen to him, Larry is always the one guy who says
41:52
the league is in good hands with the players he loves. He's the one
41:55
guy who loves the product. Now I don't know, and you can't say
42:00
he's not telling the truth because he's always been as boldly honest as it gets.
42:06
So he likes See. I could see Larry being that guy who would
42:10
like something like that because he was back in a league where remember he remember
42:15
all of those passes he threw when nobody did that. He'd he would understand
42:22
the kind of players that you'd see now, both the men and the women,
42:24
better than anybody, the changes in the league, the amazing players,
42:30
the big offensive players. He was that. So it would not shock me
42:37
because every other legend we hear has to give us their thing of what they
42:43
think's wrong. He's always telling everybody what's right. Are they building him up
42:47
for something a big? Mind? You he don't have to stay in Indiana
42:50
because he doesn't want to leave. But are they trying to set him up
42:53
for something big or later? They already got the Larry Bird Award for the
42:57
Eastern Conference. Are they trying for the rest of his life? Because he's
43:01
the one who sets who that builds this product up better than anybody else as
43:07
a legend. Jason Tatum met him for the first time and All Star Weekend
43:10
loved it, had chills. So everybody that would meet him, they love
43:15
him because he doesn't bag their product. Do I beg the product? Yes?
43:20
I do, But they're the ones that have to play in it,
43:22
So to have him around in it might improve it. Let me tell you
43:27
if you've ever met Larry Bird, and I had the good fortune of meeting
43:30
him, especially one time when I talked to him after he was done with
43:34
the Beat Writers, and he always taught me to think three steps ahead of
43:37
the other people. That's how he was good. Let me tell you,
43:40
he's one of the nicest people on the planet. He's this level headed superstar
43:45
that's nothing but good for the NBA. And if they can do anything to
43:50
expand him in a role to do what he's got to do, you do
43:52
that, and you know what, think about it for that's play, though
43:57
I really don't like the job that an Silver is done. I've never been
44:00
a big Adam Silver person at all. I really never have. I've always
44:05
liked David Stern, but I will tell you this much about Silver though.
44:08
He did elevate Joe Dumars to handle disciplinary manners. Okay, when it comes
44:15
to cracking down on things that don't need to be done, you know,
44:19
whether it's flagrant fouls, suspensions or whatever. Maybe and Joe Dumars is the
44:23
right guy to police a lot of that. I agree, Jacob. Maybe
44:29
he will be an ambassador of some kind. You need a smart person that
44:32
knows what you have to do, and I think he's one of the most
44:36
intelligent individuals on the planet and it showed was his play on the court.
44:42
You again, not the greatest athlete, I told him, I know you
44:44
weren't obviously the greatest athlete. To play about, boy, you out smart
44:46
and he was very polite about it. I was thinking three steps ahead.
44:51
That's a potent combination. When you can outthink people, you have to threat
44:53
life like a chess game. Three steps ahead, right. Why do you
44:57
think they have a three move checkmate? Right? Because it's designed the three
45:00
steps ahead at all. It's all interconnected. So Jacob, you're on point.
45:07
But Larry Bird and they gave him an expanded role on and I understand.
45:10
I think he has a place in Naples, Florida two who knows,
45:14
But then again, once upon a time, but Celick had an office in
45:17
Milwaukee and he worked in New York, so he's able to go both places.
45:22
But the NBA would be better to have Larry Bird involved any way that
45:27
possibly can point. Okay, and we'll finish it off with George. Well,
45:35
I'm gonna switch gears a little bit here. It's been announced that one
45:38
guy who I've admired for many, many years, Vern Lundquist, will be
45:43
retiring after he calls the Masters in April for the final time. CBS has
45:50
been using him on golf for decades now, and he's not the main guy.
45:53
Of course, Jim Nantz is the main guy at the Masters and with
45:57
PGA Golf, but hats off to you. Legendary broadcaster Verne Lundquist has covered
46:05
many, many great games over the years, especially college and pro football,
46:09
and of course golf events such as the Masters and such. Eighty three years
46:15
old, you've done it all. Vern, It's a great career. You'll
46:20
be hanging it up. But we're never going to forget that golden throat,
46:24
that that great voice of yours. It's gonna be h It's gonna be missing
46:29
on the sports scene, just like we've had to say goodbye to Don Kricky
46:32
and Brent Musburger and many other of my heroes growing up. So wish you
46:38
the best. Burn have a great Masters. I'm sure you will. We'll
46:43
be watching and listening as you conclude your fantastic broadcast career. Well done.
46:49
I like that very good. Thank you, Vern lun Quist as well those
46:52
guys as the transending figure that has been around for so long. He's covered
46:58
so many big events, and you know when a guy like him can leave
47:00
on his own terms, even in his eighties and still be at the top
47:05
of his game, more power to him. Every broadcaster needs a good send
47:08
off if you can get it, and I'm glad to Vern is definitely going
47:12
to get his like anybody else. All right. Yeah, So with that
47:15
said, we're gonna let everybody let everybody know how they get old you And
47:20
okay, well let Jacob go ahead and lead off. Jake the Pundit on
47:27
Twitter or ex Jake the Pundit one on TikTok, Jake the Pundit on Reddit.
47:30
Now, I just got on five shows a week, four shows a
47:35
week and the fifth off the bench and amongst some things. And I'm also
47:38
writing a little more right now on the South woarid to Tribune soft Ward of
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Tribune and in Scrubber magazine, right and you and you connected me with the
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guy with Inscber magazine. It was the Robert Cobb, I think, right.
47:51
I had an opportunity to speak to him, and he's really incredible.
47:53
Candy, why don't you come on screen really quickly, and I want you
47:57
to promote your Girls shows. I know we have a few minutes that we
47:59
can do it, So go ahead and come on because I'll tell you what
48:02
Candy does outside of here is just truly remarkable. So go ahead, Candy.
48:07
You have time to let everybody know how they can find you. So
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the Girls Show is Chicks and Salsa or three Chicks in a pod normally Tuesday
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night, seven point thirty. You can catch me tomorrow night on Fire Up
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Florida Tribune. Very good. Well, Candy gets involved. She does it
48:34
all, handles, the website, producers, the broadcasting. She's all over
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the map. Okay, Travis, go ahead. You can find me on
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all the socials, Travis D. Holmes. You can find my writings covering
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wherever you get your podcast. Thanks for having me. Well, you're welcome.
49:15
Like I told you, you know what, Travis, You've been in
49:19
very nicely on both shows. You really really have. And when I find
49:22
people that are talented, I like to spread them around a little bit so
49:27
that people can really see their true given ability. And I'm telling you something
49:30
you have done, an unbelievable job. I am so proud of you,
49:34
Travis. Keep up the good work and keep them proving. Okay, thank
49:37
you appreciating Well, You're welcome, all right, George Ikone, go ahead.
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the easiest way is go to read my column in the South Florida Tribune under
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the Motor City Tribune and at the end of the column Scott and Candy put
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a little link there for it for you to take a look at my book.
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You can reach me at Giicorne at yahoo dot com and also on LinkedIn
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and Twitter. I go by the handle of sand to G Sports ninety nine.
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Follow me on any number of these great shows, fire Up Sports,
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Exchange, Pundits, Pundit one hundred and eight stitches a great great network we've
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established here and along with Sideline Sports, The South Florida Tribune is on the
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map, and again I wrote the forward for Scott's great book. You know,
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it's just a wonderful book. You got to get it and learn a
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lot about old school versus douent school media. And Scott did a terrific job
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with his book. So thank you, well you, thank you for mentioning
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it. We began at ABSP Radio. Now when you think of where we
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got started versus where we're at, the changes in the industry, it just
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plowed me away. Who would have ever thought we'd ever hear back in nineteen
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seventy nine the word streaming. Really, all we remember back then is wires
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services, tickers? What else? Ap UPI type writers? Yes, we
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got those two. There you go, all this guy like a good day.
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There you go. It's a good day when you go out there and
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do that, all right. But no, that's that's how far we've really
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come. NBA is dying. I guess AJ Rivera knew to the party.
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That doesn't look very good, that's for sure. Thanks for joining us,
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AJ, but good job by our crew. I'm sure JBLIS will be coming
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back in the not so distant future. But one thing we enjoy doing and
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brain sports change on Wednesday Night, weekend and week out. Tomorrow's lineupter C
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and O will begin with Pundit's Pundit. We start that show right Jacob at
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eight o'clock and that will be our lean into Fire Up so her crew tomorrow
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night for Punnits fund It my well, Jacob, George and Denzel. So
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we try to come up with some sports and nonsports related so stay tuned,
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hope you can join us, and of course Fire Up, Keep it real.
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So Candy Embling does a good job hosting some of the shows, and
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we hope that you can get your maximum entertainment value out of everything that we
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work. We'll put together with that said on behalf of Candy Ebling. Okay,
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she's part of us. Jacob Christner, Travis Holmes, George Eykorn.
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This is Scott Morgan, Rothomotor City man Mouth. Thank you for joining us
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on this edition of the Sports Exchange and once again please join us tomorrow at
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eight o'clock Eastern time for Pundit's fund It. Good night everybody. M