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156. Mythic Legions the RPG Kickstarter reveals! Too much silver? Rising Sons sell out at retail! · The Euro Legions Podcast

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My wallet is sobbing. I can hear it.
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I can hear it in the hall now. It is breaking down crying.
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It turns out that Attila the arrogant so and so he's got a
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fake hammer. Oh.
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A fake? Yeah.
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Whoa. As I say, Dick.
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Welcome to episode 156 of the Allegiance podcast.
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And as we get closer to the end of the Mythic Legions, the
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role-playing game Kickstarter, this episode is gonna focus on
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all the updates for the past week.
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A lot of stuff has been revealed and we're now in the
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homestretch. We got just pretty much over a
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week to go until the Kickstarter closes.
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So exciting times, man. What do you think?
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Yes, yes, I'm excited. I'm I'm hoping everything gets
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unlocked. I think if people haven't backed
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now is the time. But yeah, don't leave it till
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the end the last day. And rich large box of pre-orders
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that arrived in your house today, but you're you're not
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talking about them tonight. I'm not, no.
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My rising Suns all in arrived earlier along with five extra
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figures, so it was a big old box.
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But I was so professional and busy preparing for our podcast
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site on a topic that we're now not doing.
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That's that I didn't actually open them.
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So that's that's something I can do to start I.
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Knew you were salty when we when we made the editorial decision
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just before we started recording.
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Oh. Well, not salty.
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I'm not salty. Not at all.
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Flaming pepperoni, no. No, it's fine.
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At least I've done the work so I don't need to worry.
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About exactly that. That large box will entertain
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you this weekend or whenever you get the time.
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It would learn to send me as soon as I can get out of work
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tomorrow. There you go.
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So Rich's impressions on the in hand Rising Suns probably next
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step. So then, yeah, you'll at least
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tell us if the Seven Mile were talking crap or not.
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Yeah, I mean, if people hoping that I'm going to be celebrating
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Barbarians, I'm not before I even open it, I'm not.
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So just so we're just clear. How many did you order from Big
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Bad this week? I ordered three Vikings from
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being bad. There was no Barbarians ordered.
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Thank you very much. Which I was going to say very
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much feels like the Aerithea wave at the moment on Big Bad,
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doesn't it? In and out of stock like.
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Crazy before. When was it you, John, that said
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that they were back in stock on our chat group?
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Yes, it was me, yeah. And I was like and.
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Then I was like oh sorry, dived off and obviously that was
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before a lot of the Americans are awake so munched again. 3
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Broaders and a couple more Yoshanis.
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And they all had 24 in stock, you know, you know the, that's
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the kind of eh, that's the maximum big bad will show you.
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But when you see 24, you think, OK, they got loads stuck at them
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because it generally doesn't go down below 24 for a long time.
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And eh, then we had this picture here, which was all the ones
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that have sold out, mostly the barbarian looking ones.
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Rich, I have to say. It just shows people idiots.
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It's just. Well, you're responsible here of
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a brother of younger is gone again, so you know.
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Well, I don't know if you guys noticed, but they started
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putting buying limits on very quickly.
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So I'm wondering if somebody went in and just bought like
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100? Yeah, well.
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Two or three different ones straight away think that I can
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flip these. Well, the Cabal will be very
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happy to have them flip them, you know, that's what they seem
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to allow. Whereas I'm thinking a couple of
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brooders would make a rather good base bodies for some dogs.
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So. Bare arms, though, I mean, you
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know, but what are you going to do with that?
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I can work around that, don't worry.
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The dogs don't have human fleshed on human.
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Flesh. No, they don't know.
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Caucasian fleshed on that would look weird.
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I can work around. But yeah, what do you what do
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you think about this whole thing of I think it's kind of healthy
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in that, you know, it makes people sit up and pay attention
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when they're ordering the future waves.
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And yeah, you know, and I believe that some retailers now
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have been offered, I assume by the horsemen to, you know, extra
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pre-orders of the future waves. So EIN smile the last G Conway,
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maybe the the even 1, not the most recent G Conway, the
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previous one, the the reign of the beast.
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So yeah, I think that's interesting.
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Maybe people if you're, if you're thinking if you're on the
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fence on some of those, maybe lock them in at your retailer
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now, otherwise they just won't get produced in the numbers.
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And then, yeah, we end up in this situation where?
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You can't get them or you're paying a.
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Fortune to somebody, Lots of things.
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Now I still think that, you know, obviously horsemen will
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have these as shows. The problem is then when they're
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sold out at retailers and this is what used to happen.
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First Legions can I went to, there was always guys with the
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massive carts and they would go to the Horseman table.
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Anything that wasn't available at retail, they'd scoop up as
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much as they were allowed to. And then they would put them on
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their eBay or at their table, you know, in their local shows,
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whatever they were doing or selling them on the groups.
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And obviously for a bit more than they bought them.
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And you could say that's capitalism, but that's kind of
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how it works here. So I still think these might pop
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up again like they did at retailers.
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I don't think the horsemen do an extra run because I don't think
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they have a gap. So won't be like, you know,
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Advent or decay. I think popped up a few times
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and all that Templars and stuff. They definitely done extra runs
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of those. So yeah, it's umm, fun time.
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So I'm. Trying to remember whether this
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when they first thought about this way, whether this was one
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of the ones where they initially said we're going to be making
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less of these now. In my head, it was it was a wave
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after this when they started talking about that.
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So maybe people are a little bit surprised now when there are is
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less of these. Maybe that's yeah.
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I thought it was this way even though they said that about
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initially. It could be me misremembering.
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Yeah, I can't. Remember now I've passed 50
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since that Legions con, so you know, yeah, my mind's getting
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out old. Yeah, I suppose.
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But yeah, I think if you can, hopefully if you've wanted this
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way, if you've got at least one of the figures you've wanted, I
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think the time now forgetting extras of this for customs and
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stuff is probably more difficult.
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Yeah, even now Rich, I guess if you so the Brodor was selling
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for like 200 or something ridiculous.
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Would be difficult to keep them for customs then wouldn't.
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It no, I sort of be, I moved away from that a bit.
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OK, wrong. In three years if he's going to
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300, he'll be gone. But in the in the near future
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now I've got very specific plans for the extra ones I got sort of
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things. So.
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So I don't want to ship those on.
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Yeah, I don't know if it's weird Me, I don't mind the older
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stuff. You know, people sell them for
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whatever they go for. They're they're genuinely rare
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at that point or, you know, very hard to get.
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I always find it just a bit crappy in this time where
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they've just been released and OK, there's people that have
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bought 2 all insurance and maybe they want to offloads at the
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second all in to cover the shipping or, you know, the 1st
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all in stick it up on your eBay then, you know, and just, you
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know, let eBay take it. Don't kill the groups with that.
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But yeah, if you want to stick if you haven't known can sure.
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I think there might be one person that will sell that and
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there won't be anyone that will that won't know that you you
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know, you could get this guy at retail in six months time or
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something, you know like that or that it might pop up in an in
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stock sale on can will never. So you know this is your chance
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to get him. Whereas these, you know,
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somebody could pay 100 for one of these figures and then be
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kind of annoyed when three months down the line they
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realised because of their lack of knowledge that they could
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have got this at an in stock sale or at a horseman event.
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Theory, actually, you know. That's the thing was it we, I
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think pointed out that was it Atlas I think, or Brode, one of
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the other would solve like £180 in the UK group on eBay, sorry,
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on eBay in the UK. And it was just like, oh,
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whoever bought that, you know, you just go on big bad Toy Story
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with the import fees, the shipping, it's going to come out
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of less than half that. It's just like, Oh my God, I'm
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getting silly. Yeah, if you just feel really
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sorry for people, it's just like.
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That's either someone that has no clue or that's a fake kind of
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a sale. I guess it could be a fake one,
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yeah. Yeah, But, you know, if we take
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it at face value, that is someone that doesn't have all
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the information. So that's not that for me.
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That's not a market. That's an, you know, if people
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don't have all the information that's publicly available, then
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it's not really a fair trade, is it?
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You could say it's up to people to educate themselves, but we're
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a community. We should, you know, be somehow
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at least letting people know that don't pay that much for
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them. I.
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Mean also nowadays as well. Aliexpress is really good, you
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know, it's, they normally cost a bit more than if you bought them
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from like Auk retailer or whatever sort of thing.
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It'll be around about maybe a little bit more.
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But they generally come well packaged and they're available,
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You know, they're available on there for a long time.
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So you don't need to jump on and spend ridiculous money on
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something at the moment. You get it for less than that in
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six months time on Aliexpress. Totally.
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Yeah. If someone can't now and it's
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sold out an Aliexpress, this is my advice.
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It's not like a guarantee or anything, just so we're clear.
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Yeah. Exactly but no I mean I bought 2
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Serenox and Aliexpress the other day which are now really though
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it's me, but even with an Aliexpress voucher they still
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cost like £63 each or something like that which is which is not
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the end of the world at all. But obviously it's £20 more than
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they were originally so. But you also know that that that
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actually is a good price for them.
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Do you know what I? Mean.
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Yeah, Absolutely. Yeah.
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Uh, shall we see how the Kickstarter is doing then?
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Uh, this is Thursday night UK, uh, Europe time, so by the time
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this goes up, it won't be too far in the future $968,605.00.
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So we're getting close. Catching close to that million,
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aren't we? Yeah.
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Yeah definitely 200 uh 2391 backers with 9 days to go and
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umm I had to put on about 2020 thousand yesterday up to about
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26,000 today. So, you know, it is gathering a
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bit of momentum. We'll see maybe why when we look
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at the at the unlocks, but. Well, horsemen certainly
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confident. Are they?
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Without spoiling what we're going to talk about in a minute,
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Yeah, because of what they've done over the last 24 hours,
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sort of things. They're always confident.
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It's gathering. And they should be, because if
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they're not positive about it, it definitely won't happen, you
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know? Yeah, well.
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Yeah. It's the point, you wonder, have
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they sold to someone like Big Bad?
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A big. Quantity.
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They said they weren't going to add them in.
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OK. OK, because there is a retailer
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pledge level at the Kickstarter where you can pay the 75.
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Wholesale price. And that's all they'll add in
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right starter of. Course, yes.
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So and so it won't be artificially inflated.
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I don't know if that's artificial, but it won't be
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inflated that way, if you know what I mean.
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There won't be, eh, it'll be community based.
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This is where we are in the stretch goals.
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So stretch goals are the ones that are going to be added to
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different stuff. So you won't necessarily have,
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if you've backed the all in for example, you won't have to add
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these to your pledge, they'll just be in there automatically.
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And recently unlocked is the 2 new heads, which we haven't
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talked about yet, but we were the orc and the skelly and I
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think since last episode as well, the heroic paladin Standee
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Yeah, was unlocked, yeah. That's it, yeah.
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Next one up is the pin glow in the dark mouth green.
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Yeah, huh. They they hold the right words,
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glow in the dark and pin. Yeah.
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You too. It's just basically blue.
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Or what are you on? Yeah, yeah, there it is.
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Look at that beauty. Yes, I like it.
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Was a yellow, a yellow, one of these that came with the paladin
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or didn't come with, but I think it was available at the show
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that the paladin was available. So there you go, this beautiful
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green. Very.
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Cool. And I think.
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You're not buying stores green, they jump.
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No, I love Green of course because of the Irish thing and
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Ireland are playing tonight in World Cup qualifiers semi finals
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so come on Ireland trying to get this done so I can catch the end
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of it. You know my dedication to the to
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the show here, but I thought it were green.
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Well, if John's checking that out, come on Wales, who are also
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playing the semi final. In fact, if Ireland and Wales
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both win tonight, we play each other in the final.
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Wearing black, so that will be. No, we play Denmark or
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Macedonia. Oh, you guys not playing Italy?
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No, we're playing Czechia. Oh yeah, yeah, sorry, no
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disrespect here. I'm thinking of Northern
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Ireland, which I know is totally different.
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I'm not going to cause a political event here.
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I got my part. Of it's part of your country,
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you know, Yeah, actually, it's, it's a.
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I mean, I thought we'd a. Brilliant place because you can.
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You can get a British or an Irish passport if you live
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there. Or both it's probably.
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A good idea? Umm, one thing is you have to
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live in Northern Ireland, but I know I don't mean that.
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I think Rory from Northern Ireland sometimes listens to
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this or no offence. Well, my wife's best friends is
14:24
from Northern Ireland as well. So, Martina, you're not gonna
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listen. But if you do, I'd.
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I'd say to their I'd say to their beautiful golf courses
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though, and so that was that with the stretch goals.
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So if we make it all the way there, we'll have a a nice
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leather dice bag. It's coming as well are leather
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styles. No point leather ball bag or
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ball sack. I just like giggling for no
14:58
reason. Might we might need one of them
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as we get older. A slip case added to combos that
15:05
include the core rule book. So pretty cool, yeah.
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So that'll mean that we can never open it now Have to.
15:16
Leave it, one needs 2. And the last one there is
15:22
Standy's Vilna set added, so that would be pretty cool to get
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add on unlocks. So these are things you have to
15:33
in most cases add on and pay for, except for the All in all
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in the big one that they've added.
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So they've added and absolutely everything all in.
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What's it called again? The masters of mythos Rich is.
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The Mythos. Yeah, we I have switched to
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being a master of mythos, have you?
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I have as well, yeah. Yeah, and Malice is also
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switched. Master of mythos.
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You know the masters. Trying he's now just trying to
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figure out if he needs any other add-ons or you know, what does
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he know double of that's. It he's trying to figure out if
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he needs a third master of mythos, so.
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Kind of, eh? What's been revealed, eh?
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The, and we're going to look at these right now, the villainous
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paladin cleric, the new character pack for the vampire
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loremaster. And a figure is the last figure
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for one and a half million if they pass that amount is the
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malignant paladin cleric. So that's a goblin figure.
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So let's get into that. And here's the funding that are
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saying the number of backers as they increase over the last
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days. So those people coming in still.
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Yeah. I saw a Lord Stephen Bashati.
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It finally backed it. I mean, come on.
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I thought you were bad. Rich.
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Wait. In a few days.
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Well, Bashati was on it too on Jeremy Show last week talking
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about this and then when I am back there, come on.
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Yeah, come on, Jerry. Jeremy, you're head of
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marketing, you know, come on, have a guy on that's actually
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going to back the bloody thing on time.
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I suppose he has backed an on time, but yeah.
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Yeah, he's got his butt in gear, finally.
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And so yeah, instead like a big jump there and it's the same day
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there was a big jump in eh backers.
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And I think that was around one of the figure reveals.
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Probably backing, looking at the number of backers that obviously
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backing a lot of money each as well.
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Yeah, yeah. Because the 27,000,000 here
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jumped up, Yeah. So that chart, it kind of aligns
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with the money weirdly had two days where money went down.
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I guess that's people either cancelling or readjusting their
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pledges, you know, or there could be even someone that
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cancels their pledge and then is like doing a brand new pledge.
18:00
But in the meantime, maybe it's gone on to the next day or
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whatever, or you know, they haven't done that to the next
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day. It could be loads of
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explanations for that. So I have up to yesterday here.
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So that's the 20,000 was the most yesterday and today it's
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already a bit more 26,000 or so. So steady enough progress there.
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I would say for this time 9 days out when you'd expect a big jump
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at the end, then you can see that we're going to get close.
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I would say close to, but I'm still not sure.
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I just don't know how many Stephen Boschatis there is out
18:35
there, if you know what I mean. Yeah, it's going to be one or
18:39
two, I'm sure of it. But yeah, I don't know.
18:43
Like people that are pretty much all in legions collectors and
18:46
just haven't got round to put their stuff in or haven't
18:49
decided how many double S they need.
18:51
Or you know, so you know. Yeah, I mean, that's a key
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thing. Busy.
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With life and just said I'll do that at the end, you know?
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Yeah. That's the key thing I think for
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them, it's only people just go, do you know what I've got the
19:03
the master of mythos by another 4 of that one, another five,
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that one. And it's like you will get
19:08
people to do that, but many. Yeah, exactly.
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And people that get caught up in the hype at the end as well,
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that can happen because it's going to be all sorts of posts
19:19
and the groups is going to be the 24 hour live stream that
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we're taking part in. So you know there will be eh
19:26
form of that. Right.
19:27
I mean, I don't want to tell the horsemen what to do, you know.
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I'm not old man Kyle, but you know, maybe they could towards
19:33
the end of the day just go there's meet and greet with the
19:34
Euro legions guys at Legions Con if you keep backing it so they
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could make a fortune. They passed like 4 million.
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OK, do we have to do anything different for this meet and
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greet or just hang out at the bar?
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Probably be naked, but other than that I think we're fine.
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Oh, no pass. Watch watch Kickstarter around
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so. Villainous.
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Paladin slash Cleric First impressions here, Mel.
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I really like it. I like the colours, I like, I
20:11
like that head fit in that blue. We sort of bit conjecture on
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that I think at one point, didn't we and I think.
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Yeah, so it's the elf rogue head.
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Yeah, repainted in shadow. Shadow of Colours, yeah, I like,
20:25
I love the bright, vibrant spell effect that he comes with.
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There's a bit of discussion in in a chat we're in and I kind of
20:36
agree, but I think it's easy enough to swap out if you're not
20:38
keen. The silver feels a bit bright
20:41
for the character. It feels like it should be a bit
20:44
darker for this particular character, but yeah.
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It should be a different colour for the character in my opinion.
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Yeah, of course you're you're not.
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Yeah, the blue and the blue. I don't like the silver at all.
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Normally be there on that job, I don't think silver worked
21:00
particularly well anyway. And then when it's bright like
21:02
this, it's just like. Now, it might be.
21:05
And even if it's closer to, there was a couple of like, you
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know, iPhone or whatever smartphone pictures from
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whatever con they were at over the weekend.
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And ski con, wasn't it? Ski con, Of course, Yeah.
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And then it looked a little bit more like the what's the dark
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Templar? More of a flat, flashy silver,
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darker, a little bit greyer, but even still I just don't think it
21:31
should be silver. No, I'm thinking I might pick up
21:35
one of the gun metal armoury Knights and even the gun metal
21:40
the the the barbarian armoured the sorry the gladiator arm
21:45
rebuild that's got the gun metal.
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Yeah, track legs with boots attempted to pick them up and
21:51
I'll swapped out to that when it comes.
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I'm thinking so. That's a good.
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Idea. Yeah, I think that gun metal
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worked well for it. He also comes with the like a
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valak in the hood head, so vampire head in the hood and
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then a chainmail head with the faceplate painted blue.
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Both that it's one of the human face plates that's painted in
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the shadow of colours. Your first impressions of this
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one, Rich. I like it.
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There's a couple of qualms like you, I think the silver's just
22:29
wrong. It's not often I say they made a
22:31
wrong choice colour likewise, but they definitely have with
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that in my own opinion. Overall, I like it.
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I really like the the the the cloth and the sort of blue
22:41
colouring on it rather than yellow.
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I think that works really well. I'd want the boots to be and the
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gloves to be a different shade of blue.
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It's far too close to the the flesh tone of the shadow elf, I
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think. Umm, so that's the change I'd
22:55
like, but otherwise might as you like it.
22:58
Yeah yeah, umm I I like the soft goods in this colour, I think
23:05
yeah the Blues on the hands and the boots.
23:09
I agree 100%. It's just should be maybe closer
23:13
to the soft goods or I. Could say that to be fair, yeah.
23:17
Yeah, if you look at the shield, I think they've got the shield
23:20
colours spot on, Yeah. Hmm.
23:24
For maybe what the armour should be more so, yeah, Yeah, but.
23:32
No, I have to make the first picture I saw was this one which
23:35
is the. This soft good one like yeah,
23:38
just like that all. My action was like, Oh my God,
23:42
what have they done? So this is this is the figure
23:45
with all the soft goods off and it's got kind of helmet.
23:49
So it also comes with the Lee J helm that you can stick on top
23:54
of the elf head sculptures, take the hair off and yeah.
23:59
And here it is without all the soft good.
24:00
So it's a night. I mean, you could strip away
24:02
bits of that and you've got a great build for a nice going on
24:06
there. But as is there and that'll
24:09
never see the light day in my shelf.
24:11
No, it's, I mean, it's again, it's a night, isn't it?
24:14
And I'm not the biggest night fan in that, you know, straight
24:18
up night. So yeah, about this at all.
24:21
If you're going to do elves, Bitch Shadow elves or normal
24:25
elves in that sort of night look, they need fancy helmets.
24:30
Yeah, they need big helmets and this sort of stuff, you know,
24:33
like Warhammer style is the only way to make that look work.
24:37
Got you. Yeah, but and, and here then the
24:40
boots really look like, you know, they kind of took somebody
24:45
else's boots as they were going out the door.
24:47
Couldn't find their own, you know.
24:49
I really like the boot colour and.
24:53
Maybe I don't have that kink, I don't know.
24:56
Yeah, and it's just, it's just too close to the skin tone for
24:59
me. I got nothing against the blue
25:01
boots. That's I mean with the silver
25:03
arm, I don't think it works, but it's quite a cool colour.
25:06
But no, it's just too close to them.
25:10
Yeah, so for me here, the Valak look actually ends up being the
25:15
best. And that's weird, because this
25:17
is a shadow, you know? Yeah.
25:20
Basically shadow of type character almost.
25:25
At least the main part of it is. And yeah.
25:30
Yeah, I thought that. Was that we've we've backed,
25:32
we've backed the all in, you know, all of us.
25:34
So, you know, we're also allowed to pick holes in these and we'll
25:39
get to the point. One thing we're not, it's a kiss
25:43
ass podcast. It's like, no, we're honest.
25:48
I well, I was going to add as well, actually, it's weird that
25:51
there's a vampire head in it. As much as I love vampires and
25:53
I'm happy it's there. It's like the other ones, you
25:56
know, it's all human loyal or it's all God you.
25:59
Think it's you think see the do ban wouldn't work would it
26:03
either? No, no, no.
26:06
It's yeah, I don't know, just I want them all to be shadow
26:10
elves. It's slightly weight point of
26:12
vampire. Although there's a blue version
26:15
of that, demand head with Kai Pasha isn't.
26:17
Let's say you could possibly there.
26:19
Is there we go. This, this is absolutely the
26:24
best look, I think, for him. Yeah, yeah.
26:26
That's right, just. Turned them into totally
26:28
something else. So there's someone has said I
26:30
should have credited them. Took the screenshot another name
26:34
has gone off it, but this was posted in one of the groups and
26:39
yeah this somebody has did you bashed the Kai Pasha extra head
26:43
the Smurf like like what Noah did first I think yes this.
26:47
Is a Papa Smurf cleric, isn't it?
26:48
Yeah. This is amazing even though you
26:53
know it's wrong, but it's so right there.
26:59
You go. That might be the way to use
27:00
that do that. It's probably it's probably on
27:02
those ones where they did the pipe Kai passion.
27:04
Now they're like, oh, we should just save the head.
27:07
It worked so well with it's damn it, it's OK.
27:10
Most people are most people are you know that are in this liner
27:14
are going to have this head. So at some point in their
27:16
collection, I think so they can past it.
27:20
This next one then Rich you are the the vampire expert on this
27:24
podcast Vampire loremaster. What do you think of this fella?
27:28
I. Absolutely love this dude.
27:29
So this is a character pack. So this is what you get here.
27:33
The legs, the head set of bare arms, they're armoured silver
27:39
legs again. They.
27:40
Have purple. Books the chain on them and the
27:44
cool torch with purple. So we get that torch in purple
27:47
and he looks and he goes on the Ricks figure.
27:49
This is the intention goes on any figure, I suppose.
27:52
But when it comes to the Kickstarter here, this is what
27:57
he's supposed to go on. So you like him, Rich?
28:01
Love him, love him. Yeah, I've talked in the past
28:03
about how cool I think the different colour flames on the
28:05
sorches are. So putting a purple one on this
28:07
is just. It's absolutely brilliant.
28:09
Yeah. Absolutely love the the sort of
28:11
Baron Bolic symbol sort of tattoo on his head as well.
28:15
That looks really cracking. I think that's the best version
28:19
of that head, isn't it? That we had is.
28:21
It the head from the heads back? Yeah, I think so.
28:25
Isn't it? Yeah.
28:27
Yeah, Was that your guess? Well, so you're right on that,
28:29
dammit. It's rubbish.
28:34
Yeah, and this is. Suggested it to be fair and I
28:37
just thought I was most likely. And this paint on the vampire's
28:42
head is their way of kind of symbolising a Lithia with her,
28:46
with her extra arms. So it's the kind of simplified
28:50
version of that, yeah. I like the purple books as well.
28:54
I know in Jeremy's show somebody asked about the let the apple
28:56
eggs and they were like well why they armoured that's weird.
29:00
And Jeremy was like, well, we tried bare flesh white ones and
29:03
it looked ridiculous so. Yeah, I don't want to refresh
29:07
white ones, but the. They've been good.
29:10
Cloth ones would have been good because and then why silver
29:14
again? Yeah, well I'm thinking this
29:17
might be a reason to get another pair of the barbarian character
29:22
pack can use the legs from that on this.
29:24
One from that. That's a good idea, Mal.
29:26
Yeah, damn it, Mal. More money going.
29:30
I don't like any other colour but silver here would have been
29:33
better even even you see they go into the kind of completely
29:37
different colour eh? Lower leg here and the Rick's
29:42
figure. Yeah, a black would have worked
29:43
really well with the vampire. Yeah.
29:45
Just a scheme generally dirtied up 1, you know?
29:48
Yeah. Let's face it, vampires aren't
29:51
found silver, you know they don't agree with silver.
29:56
It's like impairing. It's like him wearing a pair of
29:58
wood trousers. It's just like.
30:02
So that's him. So my only criticism really of
30:04
him is the the legs, but we can fix that with the legs from
30:09
Barbarian pack for example, or at least those parts of the
30:13
legs. I plan.
30:16
But no, as a carrot pack, I love it.
30:17
I think it's great. And so I don't, Yeah.
30:21
And if this was a whole figure and they had the silver legs,
30:24
I'd really not be impressed. But as a character, Backing can
30:28
get away with it, I think. Goblin.
30:33
So this is the big the big final figure.
30:37
Was this what you were expecting for the big final figure, Rich?
30:42
No, I was expecting something new.
30:47
And I know they're not going to do new tooling for this, but
30:49
they are. You know, they said many times
30:51
in the past that they tool stuff up and then just keep it back
30:53
for a couple of ways. Yeah, so I was expecting
30:55
something new to like really Dr excitement.
30:59
So when this came up, I was like, oh, it's all stuff we've
31:01
got already, right? Yeah, Mal, what do you think of
31:07
this? Oh, you see, I don't mind it.
31:09
There's there's things about it I don't prefer, but there's
31:14
things. But there's there's plenty about
31:16
it that I do, I do really like. Oh my, that's the most negative
31:20
I've ever heard you. I don't prefer them.
31:25
That's the most. British criticism, Ever.
31:27
You know, it's like. Where do I go?
31:30
Where do I go now to slip my wrists?
31:33
My boss has told me that. Yeah, I I like the the green
31:43
sort of tunic piece. I quite like the heads.
31:49
The face on the head sculpt, it's got on in this picture
31:51
here. I'm not so sure I need another
31:55
swig head sculpt. I like the paint the way the
32:00
shield's painted. I quite like that we get in
32:03
little what looks like little winged pieces for the for the
32:08
helmet. That's quite, yeah.
32:10
Touch. Yeah.
32:12
I like the general setup of it. But yeah, those things I'm not
32:17
so sure about. The armoured bits, I don't know
32:22
whether I'd have preferred them to maybe use the bare flesh a
32:27
bit or something. Yeah, it shows the three
32:30
different bills there. I don't mind that fully armoured
32:33
version of it though, that's quite a cool one.
32:38
Yeah. What did you think of it, John?
32:46
The soft goods I could stick on as like a Silverhorn sentry or
32:50
something. I think that would.
32:51
They would look awesome. They're the same size.
32:55
I get the size thing because they want to keep it streamlined
32:59
for the factory RE. It's a bit like parts reuse, you
33:02
know? I guess it's the same thing.
33:03
If they did a shrunken down version of this, it would be
33:06
like doing a new yeah soft goods, which would come with the
33:09
tooling, like a soft goods tooling price or whatever the
33:13
equivalent of that would be, plus whatever.
33:17
And the other thing, by doing that as well as they can, people
33:20
will want the tune equate they to use on the characters.
33:23
So, yeah, yeah. Like I know goblin fans love
33:29
their goblins and I'm happy for them.
33:31
I mean TJ and her patron, he's huge goblin guy.
33:34
I even helped him get some goblin help scopes from prop
33:38
masters when they couldn't ship to the US.
33:41
Delighted for people like that. But for me this is not the 1.5
33:46
million big amazing figure reveal.
33:50
I mean the goblin 2 packing nashes of eggbender is so much
33:54
better than this. Oh yeah, that's.
33:56
Each of the single figures, you know, and so that's the
34:02
disappointing thing and it's kind of made me wonder, is this
34:08
Kickstarter really trying to cater more for the new fans or
34:12
especially with these unlock unlocks or is it catering for us
34:18
as well? You know, the kind of long term
34:20
fans, because I don't see huge innovation in this figure
34:24
compared to like the core figures that we got to start.
34:28
And we've talked about these in the pre shows.
34:30
They're amazing and they're so good and everything since the
34:38
monster pack, which is also amazing barrier and the bark is
34:43
a little bit not great at the four horsemen standards for me.
34:48
So that's just kind of where it's a little bit underwhelming
34:53
still getting the all in. So you know, I'm not like
34:55
throwing the toys out the pram here, but this is my opinion so
34:58
I don't get. Cancelling your Kickstarter
35:00
order because they. So I don't get the like, wow,
35:04
amazement from people about it. But maybe, you know, maybe I'm
35:07
just that's my own opinion. And, you know, we're not all the
35:12
same. Yeah.
35:13
So you know. Yeah, I mean, I think what
35:19
they've done with the heads is fine, but I'll be swapping my
35:22
head straight off and putting out custom head on because you
35:26
don't need the same goblin head on a different figure.
35:29
Next week is still in stock the horse and website that.
35:35
Colour scheme actually works really well I think for him.
35:37
But yeah, it is, you know, it's yeah.
35:41
And the but what I don't like colour wise is how bright green
35:44
the tunic is. It's just totally wrong on a
35:48
goblin. It should be a dirty mucky
35:51
green. Now we could say this is fantasy
35:56
and you know we can make it up but I think this just pulls me
36:01
out for too much for what I would expect this type of
36:07
character to have. Like a goblin or PG for me is
36:11
more like SWIG if we got a goblin like an evolution of swig
36:16
for this reveal, that could be 10 out of 10 for me you know?
36:21
Oh yeah. Not not swig.
36:24
Sorry, the snag. Snag.
36:26
That's what I was about to say. Yeah, I think, but I think.
36:28
Hood Yeah, the. Goblin Thief would have been
36:31
something more like I would have expected, which is stag, isn't
36:34
it? So, yeah, yeah.
36:36
Snag Yeah, so that would. Be.
36:40
Way better, you know, and, and like so him with soft goods, you
36:44
know, maybe a little, you know, shirt and pants, kind of soft
36:49
good pants, amazing. And you know, give him a like a
36:52
Santa sack type of thing and all that kind of stuff.
36:56
So he said he was wearing pants. Sorry.
37:05
That's that's 1.7 million reveal mile 1 July.
37:09
Little Gob and I know there'll be future waves and and we might
37:12
get a figure like that and they'll obviously be future
37:16
mythic legions waves where maybe they have planted.
37:18
It's all planned out. We don't see the whole plan, but
37:22
I just that, you know. They did been they've been
37:26
better doing a cheaper goblin as like a starter figure like $30
37:31
stock. Or a core.
37:33
Yes, and they've sold loads, whereas you know if you want to
37:37
army bill goblins, you're not going to buy 10 of this guy at
37:40
$60.00 each. True.
37:42
Well he's posted in the others talking to my start before we
37:45
start recording. He's post like eh, someone
37:48
posted him in the goblin group and the seven comments into in
37:52
18 hours in the goblin group about this figure.
37:55
Now I know he's in the Cabal as well, and there's probably
37:57
plenty of comments in that post, but you know, the Dwarf group
38:02
went absolutely ham about the the dwarf, what he was revealed.
38:06
You know this is. Freaking awesome.
38:10
Yeah. I think looking at that, looking
38:12
at sorry, Rich, yeah. No, I'm just going to say with I
38:15
know I love our goblin fan brethren.
38:17
I'm I've got a lot of goblins of my own collection.
38:19
Kirby's awesome marks awesome. All goblin guys are awesome.
38:22
But you could paint a dwarf green and call it a goblin and
38:25
certain people will get excited about it.
38:28
Would there be like me? And I think there's a danger
38:31
this might hit the mere side of it.
38:33
Hmm, yeah, I think a little bit eh, I mean back to the the
38:39
actual figure itself. So the heads here, this seems to
38:43
be this is a head that you get in the malignancy pack with the
38:48
visor from the skeleton from the deluxe Legion builders.
38:51
Remember that visor? It seems to fit on that head.
38:55
Eh, Looks pretty pretty cool. Obviously gets a swig head and
39:00
that's the head with the visor over it.
39:03
I love that the divisor over it. Look, yeah, I think that's the.
39:06
Best there's also there's also a nob Nick head with the didn't
39:11
get a close up of him and Nob Nick.
39:13
I think that's the this is the second time you'll get a nob
39:16
Nick head. So and it's it's probably one of
39:20
the best carbon Nets. So you know, that's cool as well
39:23
for people who missed out on that.
39:26
I mean, I imagine TJ wasn't in the line, for example, back when
39:30
Nubnik was available. So might be his first chance if
39:33
this gets unlocked again Nubnik. And that's so that's awesome for
39:36
him. Heads packs, these got unlocked
39:44
or kind of skeleton to go with those figures.
39:47
I don't know if I have the picture of them on the figures
39:50
here. These just go in which are,
39:53
which are various bundle packs that include those figures.
39:57
So pretty cool add in. Yeah, pretty cool.
40:02
I like for three hits. I like the little war paint here
40:08
and the way it's kind of weathered in with the skull
40:12
class. Yeah, that's where perhaps a bit
40:14
of a sucker for that sort of thing.
40:16
I really like the I'm considering.
40:18
I'm not at all. I'm not the biggest Ork or the
40:20
biggest skeleton fan, although I do think the newer skeletons are
40:23
awesome. And that perhaps where this
40:26
comes in is I actually really, really like that or skeleton
40:30
head with the like you say, the war paying down it.
40:35
And that, that's a cool weapon, that bone sword.
40:38
It's one of the best ones in the line.
40:40
I think that weapon is great. And that arcade is the Herzog
40:44
kind of standard head. Yeah.
40:47
Is it OK? Yeah, Yeah, probably.
40:50
Yeah. I couldn't.
40:51
Yeah. It's like for.
40:52
A freebie you can't even mean. You really can't complain
40:54
because it's just. Enough.
40:55
Free habits like, you know, great.
41:00
I mean, I'm now looking at that all corner.
41:01
I have to admit thinking, do I need to paint sort of tattoo
41:04
marks on all my skeleton head pack heads?
41:09
Yeah, there's like 5 or 6 of them there.
41:11
And it's like, oh. Maybe these guys, you mean?
41:14
Yeah. I know the original necronomics
41:17
all. Oh yeah, yeah, that's cool.
41:19
Not these. Douche bags.
41:21
Bag of skeletons. Sorry Brett, but I'm just we're
41:25
not, we're not a huge fan of these.
41:26
I mean, cool to get skeleton heads and won't say no for me.
41:32
They're not into those. These are definitely not into
41:35
those. So the bottom 2 have the
41:37
articulated jaw in the top two or the standard close jaw head
41:40
scope painted in the standard bone.
41:42
So they'll go with a lot of the scan figures that you have and
41:48
you can stick them on any nice body or you know, fully armoured
41:52
body or whatever. That's basically what I think
41:55
Brett's going to do with it. It's basically a diet piece,
41:57
isn't it? Yeah.
41:58
It's like you'd buy more than one of these just to chuckle.
42:01
Load on or. You could sprinkle them on the
42:03
floor. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
42:05
And have them just kind of in the scene that that definitely
42:09
works. But a lot of us have a lot of
42:11
these anyway, especially if we're not Brett, the ones to put
42:14
one on every figure. We'll have a lot in the in the
42:20
press box. The Pain talked about that
42:23
already, yeah. My looks like he wants to fight
42:26
it again. He's getting excited.
42:29
This was an interesting one. The map of Mercurius.
42:32
Yeah. So Mercuriaco Mercurius is part
42:38
of the bigger map. It's it's kind of a near Bjorn
42:41
Garam, the top left kind of in between where our theory is and
42:47
the Bjorn Gar. So we get a, you know, Colosseum
42:52
detail. You see kind of every Rd seems
42:55
to lead to the Colosseum, which is kind of cool.
42:57
Little detail on it. That Colosseum is absolutely
43:01
massive, yeah. I wouldn't.
43:03
I wonder if it means that the like intro story or whatever it
43:09
is that's in there. Yeah.
43:12
Yeah, yeah. And I'm sorry, I didn't get the
43:16
name of the artist for this post and I just missed it.
43:19
And you can see that, yes, more detail of the map.
43:22
And then it has a legend. I couldn't find where these
43:24
numbers were on the map, but maybe when you have it in person
43:30
you can see it a bit better. But I didn't see, for example,
43:33
anyone on the Colosseum. But yeah.
43:36
Yeah, Legions Lounge this week had a lot of discussion around
43:40
that and which it could be which.
43:41
So yeah, OK, people want in depth on that.
43:44
That's the one to go to. Right, the all in so I Jeremy
43:52
revealed last night in his show that they're now adding an All
43:57
in all. So masters of mythos.
43:59
It includes everything and two of the core figures so that you
44:05
can make the figures with your character packs there, if that
44:10
makes sense, and two of the Rick's figure.
44:15
So lots of stuff there 965 with all my add-ons and stuff I
44:21
already had I think 900. So I just switched to this and I
44:26
added I want more coins, so there's only one bag of coins in
44:29
this so. An.
44:32
Extra extra coins back and it's an extra stands because I think
44:37
$10.00 for those six stands is a great deal if you're in the if
44:42
you're looking for stands. So, yeah.
44:46
And So what do you think of this all in?
44:47
Yeah, we're all, we're all on board with that if that's.
44:50
Absolutely. I've got really confused because
44:52
I was because America is only or the East Coast.
44:54
America is only four hours behind this at the moment.
44:55
I watched two first 2/3 Jeremy show.
44:58
Oh yeah. Without being too late sort of
45:01
thing. So he was going on the 16
45:03
figures included. I'm like, it's 15, 16 figures
45:06
and I'm like, it's 15. What what are you talking about?
45:08
It's 15. And then he went and there's a
45:10
second Rick sitting. I was like, OK, you know, I was
45:13
borderline messaging the autumn going, dude, you've you've F
45:15
this up. There's clearly 15 figures, but
45:18
it's like, OK, that makes sense. Yeah, and it simplifies it as
45:24
well. I think also be good for when it
45:26
comes around to shipping because they'll be very easily able to
45:29
pack this. And then if you have a couple of
45:32
extras, they can throw them in. Whereas if you have a place
45:35
that's all over the place and it's basically this but slightly
45:39
different, you could be back at the queue, you know, when it
45:43
comes to shipping. And this other picture here on
45:48
the right is the same picture with some crudely drawn green
45:52
lines around it. And we had a discussion with our
45:55
friend Mark Calvo that's breaking any confidentialities
46:00
there. And I think the point was, yeah,
46:03
I think I asked him if I could use it.
46:05
So, you know, he must not going to mention him.
46:08
I think our discussion was really that the core stuff is
46:11
really good and the disappointment has come with
46:15
these later figures. And I know people are working
46:19
really hard on this at the Horsemen and have been, and I'm
46:21
sure everything's been prepared. But for me, the later figures
46:24
look more like afterthoughts than the core stuff.
46:30
And this is a Horseman standard. So all the stuff that's kind of
46:34
circled there I think is kind of, you know, amazingly kind of
46:38
done and, you know, really, really good and really, really
46:42
good value. And then you have the later
46:44
reveals, which is the, you know, the Ricks and the goblin and the
46:52
paladin. The Vilnius paladin don't really
46:56
hit the same marks for me. So yeah, that's my point.
47:00
I think Mark was on a similar page and he's probably still
47:04
getting the all in as well. But you know, Mark will easily
47:10
be able to make amazing figures out of the parts from the ones
47:13
that he's not keen on keeping in that configuration.
47:20
I'm without any. Certain for our rich.
47:22
Table at Legion What I was about to say before I go into that job
47:25
about any self promotion for our table at legions con.
47:27
Obviously dog heads would work really well on pretty much all
47:30
these speakers just just mentioned.
47:35
Even on the evil the villainous paladin.
47:38
Even on the villainous Paladin, trust me, there's some of the
47:40
new ones we've done are Jeff's case.
47:42
Have you got a head for the goblin with the green robes?
47:46
There will be two smaller ones, so yes.
47:48
OK. Or you could use a superb
47:51
dachshund. Or we can, you know, bring the
47:52
dachshund along. Here.
47:54
Oh, bring back the dachshund. Bring back Sebastian.
47:59
Is that what he's called? He's called Sebastian.
48:01
Yeah, right. Yeah, I actually got my child
48:05
involved. She's 13, so was horrified at
48:07
doing it. I probably bribed it with a
48:09
fibrous. I remember this what?
48:10
Names. What names shall I call the dog
48:13
characters? Amazing.
48:18
Yeah, a little bit like you, John.
48:19
I think it started off really strongly and has probably not
48:23
kept up with that. I mean, it's not bad in any way.
48:26
Shit, before it's there's some cracking stuff.
48:29
Yeah, I'm, I'm, I'm got the master of mythos thing.
48:31
But yeah, it's particularly the 1.5 million.
48:34
There was like a wait and see tag on the the Kickstarter and
48:38
everything. I was really, really hoping for
48:40
something new and exciting and it wasn't.
48:43
And it's just like, oh, OK. Yeah.
48:49
No, I mean said that I'll spend every grand because I want got
48:53
the 965 plus I want a few of the bits and bobs.
48:55
So yeah. So yeah, I'm not for sure about
48:58
the whether it was feeling like it's not as planned out, because
49:05
I really like that despite thinking the armour could be a
49:08
bit darker. I really, really like the
49:11
villainous Paladin and it kind of the fact that it's the anti
49:15
heroic paladin to me feels like a deliberate, you know, oh,
49:20
we're going to do this, so we'll do this as well.
49:24
So you've got like the, you know, the enemies of each other.
49:29
But I will admit the Rick's figure doesn't necessarily hit
49:33
all hit us. You know, I want him because,
49:36
you know, I think he'll be cool to have on your shelf or
49:39
whatever. And I'm a bit of a sucker for,
49:42
well, almost getting to being of completionist in some ways.
49:47
And but yeah, and I can see the sort of feelings about the
49:51
goblin, although there's things, as I say, I like about it.
49:55
But yeah, maybe a goblin thief, as I say, would be fit what I
50:01
would imagine more from that. So yeah, some of it it feels a
50:10
bit more like to me, it's just those are the bits that aren't
50:13
aimed at me. They're aimed at another
50:14
collector that likes those and maybe doesn't like some of the
50:19
earliest stuff so much. You know, that's that's kind of
50:22
how it feels to me. But then.
50:25
Yeah, and I got, I saw this interesting comment on one of
50:30
Jeremy's posts, you know, updates or whatever, from a guy
50:35
called Dargan Pavlovich. And he said, what I don't
50:39
understand is that this is a Kickstarter for the miniature
50:41
game, but all the focus is mostly on action figures.
50:45
You don't even have good pictures, uh, to see how the
50:47
miniatures are uh, when you zoom in uh, when you zoom in on them
50:52
and uh, you talk a little bit about the game and show a little
50:57
bit more. It's mostly just talking about
51:00
the action figures and showing the action figures off.
51:03
So that's confusing me. Is it a miniature game or an
51:05
action figure miniature game? What's going on here?
51:08
Don't understand because miniatures are not really seeing
51:11
anything that should hook me into buying it because your
51:14
figures are just taking everything away from the
51:17
spotlight of the miniatures. So well, it's an interesting
51:23
point. Jeremy replied and he said, if
51:24
you're following the campaign updates, we've posted quite a
51:27
bit about the gameplay beyond the figures.
51:33
I I feel I'm kind of lacking on how the game works.
51:37
You know, we, we were planning to maybe talk about, you know, a
51:41
little bit more about the game and you know how we might play
51:44
the game in our live stream, but I don't think I'm, I'm there for
51:48
that. You know, at this stage, given
51:51
we weren't, you know, involved in any of the play testing or
51:53
anything. You know, we'll probably try and
51:56
create a character each and stuff, but beyond that I don't
52:00
think I can give much insight on how the game works.
52:05
No. Definitely not very experienced
52:08
at all gamer, but yeah it. Definitely feels like there's a
52:14
lot we don't know about the actual RPG itself.
52:18
I agree with that, but for what I would say also there is they
52:22
come from this is the game is because the figures exist.
52:28
Really it's, you know, the the community is built up around the
52:32
figures. So I, I don't, I think it's
52:36
understandable that they they focus on that side of it and and
52:40
they the whole point being they're trying to produce
52:42
something slightly different where you can use your figures
52:45
to play the game, aren't they? So.
52:48
So I think for me, it's absolutely understandable that
52:51
that's a big part of this campaign, yeah.
52:54
It makes sense to me as well, but I can see why somebody who's
52:57
not an action maker, collector, it's just a role-playing game.
53:00
Enthusiasm, yeah. Would get could be both, but
53:03
who's big into the role play side of it?
53:05
Yeah. But yeah, but if you're just a
53:07
role player and you come in and you go, oh cool, there's a new
53:10
board game. We knew minis and you're like,
53:12
wait a minute, what all these 7 inch tall figures they're
53:14
talking about? And yeah.
53:16
But there you go. Is that where they're going to
53:19
also get a newer group of people perhaps when the game comes out
53:24
and there is a lot more people talking about the content of the
53:28
game and how it plays, etcetera, etcetera, etcetera.
53:31
I don't know. Because then that's when the
53:34
people who are only interested in the book in the RPG itself or
53:38
the minis will, they'll be more accessible as a thing on their
53:43
own as well, so. Yeah.
53:46
I mean, when I think about, you know, before this ever happened,
53:50
it was like it would be always cool to get a kind of a
53:53
role-playing game or some sort of game based on the the law.
53:58
And I feel like the action figures and everything we've
54:01
done, belong has established the law and everything.
54:04
They've obviously decided that that's going to be a big, big
54:07
part of the campaign here and everything, but maybe it's kind
54:13
of too big a part for the funding, because they probably
54:18
could have put these figures up for pre-order and they've sold
54:20
the same amount anyway. Yeah, and they could have maybe
54:23
done the funding on the game more as the game itself, based
54:27
on their lore and have more detail about the, you know, just
54:32
game stuff. And then also say, and over here
54:36
on our other platform, you can buy figures, you know, that
54:40
match up with what you're having, you know, so that that
54:43
would have been the other way to do.
54:44
Then you'd have a much lower funding for the game in terms of
54:49
a goal, because it would just be funded by the game elements.
54:53
And you could still have a pre-order running for the
54:55
figures on the side for people like, you know, as usual, But
55:00
you know, maybe do a mythic legions wave.
55:02
This is the RPG wave, and you maybe do it after the funding or
55:06
before the funding or whatever you might do it.
55:09
So that would have been another way to do it.
55:10
And maybe like someone else replied as Jean Francois Santer.
55:15
So since French, I feel exactly the same.
55:19
It's not an RPGs Kickstarter, it's another wave of figures
55:22
with RPG elements added to it. We should be seeing minis,
55:25
rules, classes, unlocking more adventures.
55:30
So, I mean, I think these are people that are more familiar
55:35
with RPG games than us, yes. Yeah, I mean, to me, this is a
55:40
great Kickstarter because it it is mainly about the figures,
55:43
which is what I'm interested in. And I get a cool core rule book
55:48
which gives you more information about the races.
55:49
And I love us all geeky stuff, but yeah, I can genuinely see if
55:53
somebody's just an RPG person. What the hell?
55:57
Yeah. Well for me, I have 0 complaints
55:59
in this regard, but I thought it would be interesting to at least
56:03
show that there is people that are concerned about it on that
56:07
side of it that may become more on that side.
56:11
Which maybe if we see down the line it doesn't seem to
56:15
breakthrough to the gamer gamer, then that might be why, or at
56:22
least an element of it, you know?
56:24
On the plus side, the Horsemen have got Lenin as a project
56:27
manager for it, haven't they? So they've got somebody focused
56:30
on the game. It's not a case of Woven, the
56:32
Kickstarter that just gets pushed to one side.
56:34
Now there's land, there's camera and you know, there's, there's
56:36
people to drive it forward and keep driving it forward.
56:38
Yeah, and maybe one last thing I have here.
56:42
So, umm, they did a recent update about the the playable
56:47
species in the game. Yes.
56:49
So we have dwarf help, Elf, goblin, human, jaguarlian,
56:54
minotaur, orc skeleton and vampire.
56:59
Additional species would be added in future updates.
57:04
I don't be that guy. Where the hell is my mine at
57:06
all? I don't mind.
57:08
The actual figure, yeah. Yeah, it was a figure.
57:11
Oh, call it a playable species. Where's my mine at all?
57:15
Where's my hoofed legs? What the hell?
57:19
You've gotten enough lately, yeah?
57:22
This is true. The condensed set of rules that
57:26
come with the beginner box only include the dwarf, elf, human,
57:31
Minotaur, and skeleton, so monitors in the condensed one as
57:34
well. It's like they hate cows for
57:37
some reason. It's like, right?
57:38
They love them. I've.
57:40
Got a beef with? Cows What?
57:48
What this tells me, rich, is that there might be a Minotaur
57:52
in one of the next Mythics waves.
57:54
Fingers crossed. You know.
57:57
As I have a minor source faction in my collection, then like all
57:59
for the minor source you can't get too many.
58:02
Well, the picture they're using for the minor tour, by the looks
58:05
of it in the in the book is what's his name?
58:08
The cow we just got in the Rising Suns wave.
58:12
Rigarian. Rigarian.
58:14
Yeah. He's a rather than a cow, but I
58:18
got you. Yeah.
58:18
Yeah, but mine. If you.
58:21
Without being pedantic, because we're obviously not pedantic on
58:23
this show. If you said the bovine we've
58:25
recently got, then we'd be covered.
58:27
But. And then someone specifically
58:31
asked on one of Jeremy's posts, eh, what about demons?
58:36
And he said demons are not playable in the first release of
58:39
the game. So we focused on species that
58:42
are part of the RPG to start with.
58:45
Demons may certainly come later The question is will they come
58:50
through their demon Wang right. That's all I have boys if you
58:59
want anymore I'm off to watch the second-half of of the game
59:02
now and you know we're 21 up as I see it I.
59:06
Was going to say there's a point where Mal was talking and you
59:08
were looking down at your phone and I was looking down at my
59:10
phone as well. We're both checking football
59:11
score. Yeah.
59:14
So we should give people back their time, Yeah, rather than
59:19
rabbit on. Cheers for that boys.
59:21
Yeah, cheers. Been good.
59:22
Yeah, that was good. I'll never speak to you either
59:26
again, but you know. Which is that row was planned.
59:34
Stay safe out there everybody, and remember everybody's opinion
59:36
is valid about things like the RPG games, but don't worry about
59:39
what you think about it. Love it, ate it, all good.
59:43
Let's face it, all going to spend a load of money on.
59:46
It that's that.