Latest / Moser, Lombardi and Kane / 10-05-26 Hour 3 - Diagnosing Denver's deficiencies/Avs PASTE the Blues, Moser's GUARANTEE/Tweak the offense
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- 0:00Speaker 1: This is Mosher, Lombardi, and Kane On Demand.
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- 0:18Speaker 1: Well, the sideline reporter for CBS said during the game that,
- 0:21Speaker 1: I don't know if it was in a pre-meeting.
- 0:23Speaker 2: But you had mentioned that flying, maybe the ankle swells
- 0:26Speaker 2: a little bit and you've got to do some treatment
- 0:27Speaker 2: with it.
- 0:28Speaker 1: Has that been any issue at all? I mean, you
- 0:31Speaker 1: would tell them, I'm not a doctor, but has that
- 0:33Speaker 1: made you more.
- 0:34Speaker 3: Reluctant to perhaps take off?
- 0:36Speaker 1: Is the ankle inhibiting you in any way at all?
- 0:39Speaker 3: No.
- 0:44Speaker 1: That sounded like a Mosher question.
- 0:47Speaker 4: That sounded like one of those eight-minute Mosher questions and...
- 0:51Speaker 4: the person gets lost and doesn't know.
- 0:53Speaker 1: What to say. I think that was Troy.
- 0:55Speaker 4: I think, I think, I think it was, but he
- 0:58Speaker 4: knew exactly what Troy was saying.
- 1:00Speaker 1: He didn't want to answer. That's correct.
- 1:02Speaker 3: It's a rally house football Monday. Nelly, just cue up
- 1:04Speaker 3: Bo Nix on that answer, please. You know, it's been
- 1:08Speaker 3: a long four weeks of the season. Your team is
- 1:10Speaker 3: two and two. You guys have struggled in some things
- 1:13Speaker 3: you've excelled in others. And I just get this feeling
- 1:16Speaker 3: that you guys have a confidence level that just may
- 1:18Speaker 3: be waning a little bit. And when you look at it,
- 1:21Speaker 3: in totality and holistically on the season with the schedule
- 1:24Speaker 3: that you've had, where you're at in the standings to
- 1:26Speaker 3: this point in the year. And on top of that,
- 1:28Speaker 3: you look at your offensive production and how much it's
- 1:30Speaker 3: kind of waned a bit.
- 1:32Speaker 1: Shut up, Moj. Not to cut in. Shut up, Moj.
- 1:34Speaker 3: But when you have to actually evaluate the running game accurately,
- 1:38Speaker 3: do you just think that you guys are lacking confidence?
- 1:42Speaker 1: No. All right. Thank you very much. Shut up, Moj.
- 1:45Speaker 2: Hey, listen, I know it's a team game. I want
- 1:47Speaker 2: to get back to this. Welcome, everybody, to hour number three.
- 1:51Speaker 2: If you're just joining the program.
- 1:52Speaker 3: Some people do four hours around here, but yeah, Moj,
- 1:54Speaker 3: we can call it three.
- 1:56Speaker 2: Nobody listens to four hours. Nobody gives a rat's rip
- 1:58Speaker 2: about you and your appetizer. I mean, I think they do,
- 2:01Speaker 2: but we... You might as well just play static.
- 2:03Speaker 1: I'm the guy who does his job. You must be
- 2:05Speaker 1: the other guy.
- 2:06Speaker 3: Yeah, 50% of the people on this show right now
- 2:08Speaker 3: have been here for four hours. But yeah, go ahead.
- 2:10Speaker 1: Try me a river. Listen, man.
- 2:13Speaker 3: And did a post-game show last night.
- 2:15Speaker 1: No, no, no.
- 2:15Speaker 3: Go ahead, Moj. Whatever you feel like you need to say.
- 2:18Speaker 1: I know that it's a team game. I know it's
- 2:21Speaker 1: a team game. I'm telling you right now. If it
- 2:27Speaker 1: wasn't for this Broncos defense, this team would suck. Well,
- 2:32Speaker 1: they wouldn't be 2-2.
- 2:34Speaker 2: They wouldn't be Jack Squad, Vic, without this defense. The
- 2:38Speaker 2: offense has got to figure it out. I'm telling you, man,
- 2:41Speaker 2: you've got to hold on. You've got I don't give
- 2:44Speaker 2: a I don't care what you do this week. You're
- 2:47Speaker 2: going to beat the Chargers. That's no problem. I don't
- 2:49Speaker 2: worry about that. But I'm talking about if you want
- 2:51Speaker 2: to get to where you don't. They're going to beat
- 2:54Speaker 2: the hell out.
- 2:55Speaker 1: Of the Chargers.
- 2:55Speaker 4: Don't be that guy. You're that guy again. And you've
- 2:58Speaker 4: been that guy too long to be that guy. You
- 3:01Speaker 4: got to be smarter.
- 3:01Speaker 3: Just pause for a second. I agree with you. Chargers
- 3:04Speaker 3: are trash. I watched them play yesterday. They are terrible.
- 3:07Speaker 1: They are junk.
- 3:07Speaker 3: Hey, Moshe.
- 3:08Speaker 2: What?
- 3:09Speaker 3: What are the odds the Broncos blow out a bad
- 3:12Speaker 3: Chargers team? Because I would say they're very, very, very low.
- 3:15Speaker 1: Okay, maybe they won't blow them out, but they're going
- 3:16Speaker 1: to win. Junk on the line? Big time.
- 3:20Speaker 4: Line the junk up and hack it all.
- 3:25Speaker 2: No problem no but listen Vic what I'm telling you
- 3:28Speaker 2: is that this offense cannot continue to be this clunky
- 3:31Speaker 2: all the time you can't just scoot along with three
- 3:34Speaker 2: points for three quarters and then try to get your
- 3:36Speaker 2: crap together it's not it's not It's ridiculous, dude. If
- 3:41Speaker 2: you want to get to where you want to be, ultimately,
- 3:44Speaker 2: this defense is going to have to carry your ass.
- 3:46Speaker 2: I'm tired of this week in and week out the
- 3:49Speaker 2: same damn thing.
- 3:50Speaker 1: It's Groundhog Day.
- 3:51Speaker 3: Hang on a second.
- 3:53Speaker 2: What?
- 3:53Speaker 3: I don't disagree with anything that you're saying. I just
- 3:56Speaker 3: find this funny. And not you, but texters, listeners of
- 3:59Speaker 3: the show. What we have discussed every Monday For two years.
- 4:07Speaker 1: Every Monday for two years.
- 4:09Speaker 3: Is this exact subject. But most of the time, it
- 4:14Speaker 3: has come with the Broncos winning the football game.
- 4:16Speaker 1: They find a way.
- 4:17Speaker 3: And so, what we've gotten a lot of responses of
- 4:20Speaker 3: in the past is, shut up. This team's winning. Why
- 4:25Speaker 3: are you complaining? And this is the exact reason. Is
- 4:28Speaker 3: that this, and I just find it so funny that
- 4:31Speaker 3: everybody is up in arms with what they saw yesterday.
- 4:36Speaker 3: I'm sitting here telling you, guys, this is no different.
- 4:39Speaker 3: It's literally no different than what you've seen every week
- 4:43Speaker 3: for two years. The only separation is the Broncos didn't
- 4:48Speaker 3: get the last second drive.
- 4:50Speaker 1: That's it.
- 4:51Speaker 4: The numbers are worse than they were a year ago.
- 4:53Speaker 4: And a year ago, the offense wasn't very good.
- 4:55Speaker 1: J.K.
- 4:56Speaker 4: Dobbins, according to Parker Gabriel, last year at this time,
- 5:00Speaker 4: at this time last year through four weeks, he had
- 5:02Speaker 4: 323 yards rushing, averaging nearly six a carry.
- 5:06Speaker 1: This year, half the amount of yards. Vicky's not right.
- 5:09Speaker 1: Half the amount of.
- 5:09Speaker 4: Carries per carry. Zero TDs this year. Only two carries
- 5:14Speaker 4: of 10 plus yards.
- 5:16Speaker 3: That's, hang on, can I say something?
- 5:17Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 5:18Speaker 3: That's a big, big issue. We're talking about, man, they
- 5:23Speaker 3: need to commit to the running game. Guys, when your
- 5:26Speaker 3: longest run of the game is nine yards, it's really hard.
- 5:29Speaker 1: Not done yet.
- 5:30Speaker 4: According to Nick Kosmider, Jalen Waddell has 35 or fewer
- 5:33Speaker 4: yards receiving in three of the four games with the Broncos.
- 5:35Speaker 1: That's not even... On the map, right? When he goes,
- 5:38Speaker 1: they go. He's not even on the map. Cortland Sutton
- 5:41Speaker 1: is off.
- 5:41Speaker 4: To his worst start of his career through four games,
- 5:44Speaker 4: nine catches, 86 yards.
- 5:45Speaker 1: His career. His career.
- 5:49Speaker 2: Because he's not getting the ball. He's not, but he's
- 5:51Speaker 2: also not right, Vic. He's not right.
- 5:53Speaker 3: No, hang on, hang on.
- 5:54Speaker 1: He looks fine. JK? No, he's Sutton. Oh, Cortland Sutton. God,
- 5:57Speaker 1: I'm sorry.
- 5:58Speaker 3: Here's the other thing. I asked this to Ryan earlier.
- 6:00Speaker 3: I think the question may be cut out midway because
- 6:03Speaker 3: he answered it in regards to Waddle. I thought the
- 6:07Speaker 3: Waddle acquisition would free up Cortland Sutton to do more
- 6:11Speaker 3: things because he wouldn't be the key that the secondary
- 6:15Speaker 3: is looking at on a passing play. That they would
- 6:17Speaker 3: be so honed in on Jalen Waddle because he is
- 6:21Speaker 3: your big playmaker guy that would free him up to
- 6:23Speaker 3: be one-on-one. And Cortland Sutton one-on-one means what? Contested catch radius,
- 6:29Speaker 3: all the stuff that he does really well. He's averaging
- 6:31Speaker 3: two catches a game. What's happening there? He was your
- 6:36Speaker 3: number one wideout for years, did a pretty damn good job,
- 6:40Speaker 3: back-to-back 1,000-yard seasons. You can't even give him attempts at
- 6:44Speaker 3: the football?
- 6:44Speaker 2: Well, he had six targets yesterday, six, which is not great,
- 6:50Speaker 2: but it's nothing to sneeze at either. They tried to
- 6:52Speaker 2: get him the football, Brett. Fact of the matter is
- 6:56Speaker 2: that Nix missed him on some passes. That's the God's
- 7:00Speaker 2: honest truth. He was simply missed. On at least two
- 7:05Speaker 2: that I can think of in my head in remembering
- 7:07Speaker 2: the routes, he was just flat out missed. Now, there's...
- 7:13Speaker 2: extenuating circumstances. He's flushed from the pocket. He's thrown across
- 7:16Speaker 2: his body, blah, blah, blah, blah. I'm just telling you
- 7:18Speaker 2: that he.
- 7:19Speaker 1: Did get six targets.
- 7:20Speaker 2: So it wasn't like he got the same amount of
- 7:22Speaker 2: targets as Jalen Waddle. The fact of the matter is
- 7:26Speaker 2: all they did was dump in the passing game.
- 7:27Speaker 1: Really? All they really wanted to do was dump it
- 7:29Speaker 1: to Harvey the entire day.
- 7:30Speaker 3: I don't think they wanted to. That's what they did.
- 7:32Speaker 4: This rescuing from the Denver defense as they've done for
- 7:35Speaker 4: the last couple of years, it may be coming to
- 7:38Speaker 4: an end if they don't have their guys because Patrick
- 7:40Speaker 4: Sertan is going to miss some time. Now, The latest
- 7:44Speaker 4: report is it's not a season-ending injury, which we all
- 7:48Speaker 4: were fearing at the time, right?
- 7:50Speaker 1: What went through your mind when you saw him on
- 7:52Speaker 1: the field?
- 7:53Speaker 3: Well, the fact that it was non-contact and then had
- 7:55Speaker 3: to be held off?
- 7:57Speaker 1: I'm thinking either one. Achilles? Yep. I was thinking torn calf,
- 8:01Speaker 1: something of that nature.
- 8:03Speaker 4: Whatever it is, and it seems to be related to
- 8:06Speaker 4: his ankle, it's not season-ending, but he's going to miss
- 8:09Speaker 4: some time.
- 8:10Speaker 1: So get used to it. Riley Moss and ribs. Hey, Moe,
- 8:12Speaker 1: you ever had a rib injury? Yeah. Okay. Sucks. That's
- 8:15Speaker 1: going to take some time. Yeah. Pat Bryant, his ankle.
- 8:19Speaker 1: It's going to take some time. So not only did.
- 8:21Speaker 4: You lose the game, you lost three very important starters.
- 8:25Speaker 4: You lost their two starting corners. Thankfully for the Broncos,
- 8:28Speaker 4: they have depth at that position specifically.
- 8:31Speaker 1: Will it be enough?
- 8:32Speaker 3: They have depth, but this now puts more pressure on
- 8:36Speaker 3: your offense and your offense can't do anything. And part
- 8:40Speaker 3: of the issue that I have is the starting quarterback
- 8:44Speaker 3: of this offense seems to have an attitude when you
- 8:48Speaker 3: bring it up. And Nellie, if you could go back
- 8:50Speaker 3: to the fourth and two call, and you pointed out, Vic,
- 8:53Speaker 3: it is so true. It's fourth and two from the
- 8:57Speaker 3: 22-yard line. You're down seven. I know points are a
- 9:01Speaker 3: premium in that game because you haven't scored very many
- 9:04Speaker 3: of them, but that, I think, puts a direct level of, like,
- 9:08Speaker 3: where's your confidence in your offense and your quarterback right now?
- 9:11Speaker 3: Fourth and two, 22-yard line, we're kicking the field goal.
- 9:15Speaker 3: I don't know how many teams in the league that
- 9:16Speaker 3: have a starting quarterback in an offense that they love
- 9:18Speaker 3: and trust would make that same decision. Here's Bo Nix's
- 9:21Speaker 3: answer on that.
- 9:22Speaker 1: Fourth and two in the second half, was there any
- 9:24Speaker 1: discussion there at all? Which one? Fourth and two in
- 9:29Speaker 1: the second half.
- 9:31Speaker 5: Early in the fourth quarter.
- 9:32Speaker 1: Early in the fourth quarter. Did we kick a field goal?
- 9:35Speaker 6: Yeah.
- 9:36Speaker 1: Did we make it? Don't be that guy.
- 9:40Speaker 4: So then when we scored again, we went for two,
- 9:43Speaker 4: made it a three-point game.
- 9:46Speaker 1: Pretty good decision, I'd say. Don't be that guy.
- 9:49Speaker 3: I hate that answer. I hate it.
- 9:51Speaker 1: I hate it.
- 9:52Speaker 3: You can't act that way after you play poorly. You
- 9:56Speaker 3: can't do it. Not as the leader of the offense
- 9:58Speaker 3: and the guy that, look, what's the reason why the
- 10:01Speaker 3: offense isn't working? You aren't playing well.
- 10:03Speaker 1: You want me to frame that question? That makes it
- 10:05Speaker 1: a little more.
- 10:05Speaker 4: Hey, did you think that had the Broncos gone for it,
- 10:10Speaker 4: that would have shown more confidence in you specifically in
- 10:12Speaker 4: the offense?
- 10:13Speaker 1: Did you need that burst of confidence? I think that. No.
- 10:18Speaker 3: I think you would have big dog down that answer too.
- 10:20Speaker 1: But that's exactly why I wanted them to go for
- 10:23Speaker 1: it at that time.
- 10:23Speaker 4: You realize that? Everybody's misinformed here. Everybody looks at the analytics. Well,
- 10:27Speaker 4: they still came back and cut it to three.
- 10:28Speaker 1: I don't care. It's not about the analytics. Take your analytics.
- 10:32Speaker 1: I don't care.
- 10:33Speaker 4: It's about telling your offense, if we can't get two
- 10:36Speaker 4: yards when we've been to the 20 for the first
- 10:38Speaker 4: time in this game, and this game.
- 10:40Speaker 1: Is right here, it's for the taking. If we can't
- 10:43Speaker 1: get two yards, we don't deserve it.
- 10:47Speaker 2: You know, at the same time, they're probably like, just
- 10:50Speaker 2: take what we can get, for God's sake. Just take
- 10:53Speaker 2: what we can get.
- 10:54Speaker 1: We got nothing. We got three points. We got nothing.
- 11:01Speaker 4: I love the way the Niner used Debo Samuel. And
- 11:05Speaker 4: I know that he's a bigger version of.
- 11:08Speaker 1: Waddle. I know he's bigger. His legs are bigger, right?
- 11:12Speaker 1: He's just a bigger dude. But man... Using him as
- 11:14Speaker 1: a running back, he carried the ball three times. He
- 11:17Speaker 1: averaged 15 yards a run.
- 11:20Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 11:21Speaker 1: And did you see how many tackles he broke? Yes,
- 11:24Speaker 1: I did. Just run through guys, man. What a weapon
- 11:28Speaker 1: to have back there.
- 11:29Speaker 6: I just, I.
- 11:32Speaker 3: Again, I'll tell you where I'm at. Just to take
- 11:34Speaker 3: us back to the beginning here. I'm not into the
- 11:37Speaker 3: yelling and screaming thing today because this isn't, this wasn't new. Like,
- 11:41Speaker 3: this wasn't... This wasn't anything I haven't seen over and
- 11:45Speaker 3: over again. The difference was the outcome. And that's why
- 11:49Speaker 3: you have to take into account, where are you in
- 11:52Speaker 3: the middle of games? What is your team overall? And
- 11:56Speaker 3: against good teams, as we've seen twice this year, by
- 11:58Speaker 3: the way, both of these on the road, you were
- 12:01Speaker 3: able to make the comeback at home, weren't you? You
- 12:04Speaker 3: came back against the Jags at home, playing this exact
- 12:07Speaker 3: brutal style of offense that you capitalized on late. The Rams,
- 12:10Speaker 3: you're down 16 to nothing in that game. Come back
- 12:13Speaker 3: and win at home. Two places you couldn't do that
- 12:16Speaker 3: were where? Kansas City and San Francisco. Why? Because those
- 12:20Speaker 3: are good teams. Good teams on the road. You can't
- 12:24Speaker 3: set yourself up for this. Think about this, man. That
- 12:27Speaker 3: Niners offense was one of the best in the league
- 12:30Speaker 3: heading into this week. You dominated them defensively for a half.
- 12:34Speaker 1: Yes, you did.
- 12:35Speaker 3: For a half. And you built no leeway on the
- 12:40Speaker 3: offensive side.
- 12:40Speaker 1: Nothing.
- 12:41Speaker 3: Nothing.
- 12:42Speaker 2: I mean, think about what the 49ers have done offensively
- 12:45Speaker 2: through the first three weeks coming into this game. And
- 12:49Speaker 2: the fact that you held them the way you held
- 12:52Speaker 2: them for as long as you held them, you hold
- 12:55Speaker 2: them to three points at halftime, 10 points through three
- 12:58Speaker 2: quarters of play.
- 13:00Speaker 1: You can't get any friggin' help from your friggin' offense?
- 13:04Speaker 1: The Cardinals scored 30. You can't punch it in the
- 13:05Speaker 1: friggin' end zone to give you any kind of friggin' cushion?
- 13:09Speaker 1: It's just maddening, Vic. It's ridiculous.
- 13:14Speaker 2: And if this is any other team, I swear to God,
- 13:16Speaker 2: if this is any other team in the league, and
- 13:18Speaker 2: we're seeing this time and time again, it's Philly, it's Carolina,
- 13:23Speaker 2: it's whomever.
- 13:24Speaker 1: We would be.
- 13:25Speaker 2: Making fun of that team, and we would point out
- 13:28Speaker 2: that they've got major problems offensively, and somebody needs to
- 13:32Speaker 2: get the ziggy.
- 13:33Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, how else can we point it out? Well,
- 13:35Speaker 1: you know what?
- 13:35Speaker 2: I soft-pedal it sometimes because I want to believe, okay?
- 13:39Speaker 2: I want to believe, and I want to think that
- 13:43Speaker 2: eventually it's going to come around and it's going to be.
- 13:46Speaker 1: Something.
- 13:46Speaker 2: That flourishes on a weekly basis. It's just not happening.
- 13:50Speaker 4: They're near the basement in total yards offensively. I'm looking
- 13:53Speaker 4: at the stats right now. Their offensive numbers are abysmal.
- 13:57Speaker 4: It's one of the worst offensive.
- 13:58Speaker 1: Teams in football.
- 14:00Speaker 4: They can take a look across town at what the
- 14:02Speaker 4: Avs have done in the first two games. You know
- 14:04Speaker 4: that the Broncos in four games have scored a grand
- 14:07Speaker 4: total of 13 points in the first half. The Colorado
- 14:10Speaker 4: Avalanche in two games.
- 14:11Speaker 1: Have 14 goals. Yep.
- 14:14Speaker 3: And I do want to get to the abs when
- 14:15Speaker 3: we come back.
- 14:15Speaker 1: Yeah, so eat that, Brett.
- 14:18Speaker 3: Why me?
- 14:20Speaker 1: Well, because you're there. And you're going to have to.
- 14:23Speaker 1: Even your red beard and your stupid face. You know what, Vic?
- 14:29Speaker 2: It's bad enough I got to come in here and
- 14:31Speaker 2: I got to complain about the offense on a Monday morning.
- 14:33Speaker 1: Week after week after week after week.
- 14:36Speaker 2: And then I've got to look over here to my
- 14:37Speaker 2: right and see this stupid beard with that stupid mustache.
- 14:43Speaker 2: In a brand new haircut, you know, he's tired of it.
- 14:47Speaker 2: Where do the Broncos rank yards per game rushing? They
- 14:51Speaker 2: are third worst in the National Football League.
- 14:54Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 14:55Speaker 1: Who are the two teams below that? Let me guess. Miami? Packers,
- 14:58Speaker 1: for sure. Packers are the worst by a lot.
- 15:01Speaker 2: Well, because they're starting running back is on the shelf.
- 15:05Speaker 1: And Bengals. What, the Bengals can't run the football?
- 15:08Speaker 2: Nope.
- 15:09Speaker 1: Huh. Well, they lost yesterday, too.
- 15:11Speaker 3: When we return, the Avs off to a hot start offensively,
- 15:17Speaker 3: putting up goals on everybody. And they did it to
- 15:20Speaker 3: Jordan Binnington, which is even better over the weekend. We'll
- 15:23Speaker 3: get to it next. To rally up.
- 15:25Speaker 4: Assisted on the play by number 17, Parker Kelly.
- 15:31Speaker 1: Here's Natchez. He scores!
- 15:34Speaker 5: Another turnover down low by the Blues. And for the
- 15:38Speaker 5: second time tonight, it's a Marty.
- 15:45Speaker 3: Party.
- 15:46Speaker 1: 14 goals for the Avalanche.
- 15:50Speaker 5: Through not even five periods of hockey in 26-27. McKinnon
- 15:56Speaker 5: for Landeskog, out in front for Natchez, off the left
- 15:59Speaker 5: skate at Bennington. And the Avalanche have scored a touchdown
- 16:04Speaker 5: on the St.
- 16:05Speaker 1: Louis Blues.
- 16:08Speaker 3: It's a Rally House Football Monday.
- 16:10Speaker 2: I mean, that was a great call.
- 16:16Speaker 1: You're a little too much.
- 16:19Speaker 3: It was a good call by Conor McGehee, but it
- 16:21Speaker 3: certainly wasn't this.
- 16:22Speaker 1: White Sox. White Sox. White Sox. White Sox.
- 16:24Speaker 3: White Sox. White Sox.
- 16:39Speaker 1: Did he say pasta season? So good. I wish I
- 16:49Speaker 1: could speak Japanese, dude. There's no reason you can't make
- 16:52Speaker 1: a goal call like that. Dude, I would just butcher it.
- 16:55Speaker 1: I'd be terrible. Hey, Mosh.
- 16:59Speaker 3: Did Jordan Bennington have money on the abs?
- 17:03Speaker 1: Dude. He gave up two. We had a graphic up.
- 17:05Speaker 2: Where he just gifted it to him. Yeah, we had
- 17:07Speaker 2: a graphic up. Like his last six games against the six,
- 17:13Speaker 2: seven games against the Avs. Dude, he is either feast
- 17:15Speaker 2: or he is famine.
- 17:16Speaker 3: Well, his last three games against the Avs, he's given
- 17:18Speaker 3: up 16.
- 17:19Speaker 1: He's gotten rocked, including last New Year's Eve. Remember that game?
- 17:24Speaker 2: But the games before that, dude, he's given up like one, one, none.
- 17:28Speaker 2: I mean, he either plays great against the Avs or
- 17:31Speaker 2: he completely loses his bacon.
- 17:33Speaker 1: And I don't know what the hell he was doing.
- 17:36Speaker 2: I mean, looking in, on the first one, on the
- 17:38Speaker 2: first miscue, Luckin made.
- 17:41Speaker 1: A great play, but he's so dumb. I mean, he's
- 17:44Speaker 1: at the side. Well, I shouldn't say that. He's at
- 17:45Speaker 1: the side of the net, though.
- 17:46Speaker 2: He's got all day to make the right play, and
- 17:48Speaker 2: he tries to throw it up the middle of the ice,
- 17:50Speaker 2: and Luckin just cuts it down and throws it home.
- 17:51Speaker 1: You said it after the game. You had the graphic
- 17:53Speaker 1: up on Altitude TV. And by the way, it was
- 17:55Speaker 1: great to see you.
- 17:56Speaker 3: Guys back on air.
- 17:56Speaker 4: 14 goals through two games ties a franchise record.
- 18:00Speaker 1: You're going back to the Quebec team. 92-93. Yeah. That
- 18:04Speaker 1: is impressive. Now, it's only two games, but it's impressive.
- 18:08Speaker 1: It is impressive.
- 18:10Speaker 2: And the power play was 0-4 on Saturday night. So
- 18:15Speaker 2: now they're 4-8 for the season.
- 18:17Speaker 1: So they're still 50%.
- 18:17Speaker 2: Okay, but they were 0-4, but he didn't need it, obviously,
- 18:21Speaker 2: in that game. And then the second one, I.
- 18:25Speaker 1: Mean, who knows?
- 18:26Speaker 2: I don't know what he's doing. He likes to roam Brett.
- 18:28Speaker 2: He likes to play the puck, whatever. I'm just glad
- 18:32Speaker 2: that you have stuck it to him. Listen, you did
- 18:35Speaker 2: exactly what you're supposed to do. Couldn't happen to a
- 18:37Speaker 2: better guy. Yeah, you did exactly what you're supposed to do.
- 18:41Speaker 2: You had a team coming in with a back-to-back. By
- 18:43Speaker 2: the way, Dallas, the Stars are not off to a
- 18:46Speaker 2: good start, and St. Louis went there on Friday night
- 18:49Speaker 2: and spanked them 4-0. Came here, you did what you're
- 18:52Speaker 2: supposed to do. Team on a back-to-back, you walk them
- 18:53Speaker 2: into your building, you stick it to them, and that's
- 18:55Speaker 2: exactly what you did.
- 18:56Speaker 3: Yeah, they're on an insane pace for goals scored.
- 19:03Speaker 1: I expect seven goals a game. I'd agree with you.
- 19:07Speaker 3: I think he's reasonable.
- 19:08Speaker 1: No less. Reasonable. Well, hey, we'll be in Winnipeg on
- 19:11Speaker 1: Wednesday night. You may get it. Hey, what's the deal
- 19:13Speaker 1: with Helly?
- 19:16Speaker 2: He's just hanging out eating bonbons, I guess.
- 19:18Speaker 1: He wants to be traded.
- 19:20Speaker 2: I think he's expanded his list.
- 19:23Speaker 1: But where is he? Probably at his house. So he's
- 19:26Speaker 1: not even on– He's not even with the team, no.
- 19:29Speaker 1: So they just said sit at home? Yeah, he's gone.
- 19:31Speaker 4: Wow.
- 19:32Speaker 2: But the thing about that is if you're a team
- 19:34Speaker 2: like the Winnipeg Jets– We can talk all we want
- 19:38Speaker 2: to about the Canadian economy and so on and so
- 19:40Speaker 2: forth and whatever.
- 19:42Speaker 1: Why? No, no, I'm just saying.
- 19:44Speaker 3: Why would we talk about the Canadian economy?
- 19:46Speaker 1: Because I think maybe the Winnipeg Jets, if things don't
- 19:49Speaker 1: pick up, they're going to. to struggle.
- 19:50Speaker 3: What about oil prices up there?
- 19:53Speaker 1: I'm not getting into that stuff.
- 19:54Speaker 3: But why would I talk about the economy of Canada?
- 19:58Speaker 1: If you let me get to it, I'll frigging explain
- 20:00Speaker 1: it to you.
- 20:00Speaker 6: Okay.
- 20:01Speaker 1: Please, please, please give us a civic lesson.
- 20:04Speaker 2: If things don't improve, I think that a team like
- 20:07Speaker 2: that could struggle.
- 20:10Speaker 1: Financially, okay?
- 20:12Speaker 2: So that means that every single decision Kevin Sheveldayoff makes,
- 20:16Speaker 2: and I like that guy a lot, but every single
- 20:19Speaker 2: decision their GM makes has to be the right one.
- 20:23Speaker 1: You can't afford.
- 20:24Speaker 2: Right now, and even just being a regular team with
- 20:28Speaker 2: where the Jets are, you cannot afford to make a
- 20:31Speaker 2: mistake in regards to this trade. When you do trade Hellebuck,
- 20:36Speaker 2: you need to make a good hockey trade. Because if
- 20:40Speaker 2: you don't, the fear is that Kyle Conner will want
- 20:43Speaker 2: out and maybe Mark Shifley will want out.
- 20:45Speaker 1: Dominoes.
- 20:46Speaker 2: You'll start to have a domino effect of guys like, oh,
- 20:48Speaker 2: I'm not going to be able to win here. Maybe
- 20:50Speaker 2: the best goalie on the planet is gone. So you
- 20:53Speaker 2: need to win this trade.
- 20:54Speaker 1: So what does that have to do with the Canadian economy?
- 20:58Speaker 2: I just explained to you, teams like that are going
- 21:01Speaker 2: to struggle financially, Vic, especially if.
- 21:03Speaker 1: They're not winning.
- 21:04Speaker 3: And then what?
- 21:06Speaker 1: Then they move? Perhaps, maybe. I don't know.
- 21:10Speaker 2: I'm just saying, right now, you have to mind every
- 21:12Speaker 2: P's and Q's you possibly can if you're the Winnipeg Jets.
- 21:15Speaker 1: And you need to win a trade.
- 21:16Speaker 3: Can I interest you in some solar?
- 21:18Speaker 1: By the way.
- 21:22Speaker 2: It doesn't hurt my feelings because they're inside the division
- 21:24Speaker 2: and I want the Avs to beat everybody inside the division.
- 21:26Speaker 2: You talking solar with me?
- 21:27Speaker 1: Just shut your face. Everybody just shut up.
- 21:30Speaker 4: I mean, you started your whole topic thing by saying, hey,
- 21:33Speaker 4: we know about the economy in Canada.
- 21:35Speaker 2: They're like.
- 21:37Speaker 1: I don't know much about it.
- 21:39Speaker 3: Well.
- 21:42Speaker 3: If they trade Hellebuck, they might move the franchise? Is
- 21:45Speaker 3: that what you're getting at?
- 21:46Speaker 1: Players are paid in American dollars, so that helps, okay?
- 21:49Speaker 1: Not Canadian dollars, but I'm just... I'm saying that... What
- 21:51Speaker 1: does that mean? That market, it's... it's already a small market.
- 21:56Speaker 2: And if they don't do things right and they struggle
- 21:58Speaker 2: as a franchise, people will not show up and you're
- 22:02Speaker 2: going to take a huge financial hit. I think that
- 22:04Speaker 2: right now people are trying to justify spending the kind
- 22:09Speaker 2: of money you have to spend there to go to
- 22:10Speaker 2: games and here and everywhere else. But I'm just saying
- 22:12Speaker 2: that it's, it would be more of a pinch than
- 22:16Speaker 2: it would be in another market. That's what I'm saying.
- 22:21Speaker 2: And you bring up frigging solar. You know, it's just,
- 22:25Speaker 2: Take your panel and shove it.
- 22:26Speaker 1: That's some syrup. Good syrup. You guys are making me
- 22:30Speaker 1: so mad today. I don't know.
- 22:31Speaker 3: Interest rates are out of control. Speaking of.
- 22:33Speaker 1: NASDAQ, Dow Jones.
- 22:35Speaker 3: Hey, so the Avs, again, really hot pace to start
- 22:38Speaker 3: the season.
- 22:38Speaker 1: Big hot pace.
- 22:40Speaker 3: Drew Rosenhaus, you hear what just happened?
- 22:41Speaker 1: No.
- 22:42Speaker 3: From Adam Schefter?
- 22:42Speaker 1: Please.
- 22:43Speaker 3: Drew Rosenhaus, who represents Tyree Kill, said he plans to
- 22:48Speaker 3: begin negotiating a deal for his wide receiver with multiple
- 22:51Speaker 3: teams today. the Chiefs being one of them, he said,
- 22:56Speaker 3: I would anticipate Tyreek potentially signing with a team over
- 23:00Speaker 3: the next few days. Now, Texter writes in, Broncos, go
- 23:04Speaker 3: get Tyreek Hill. Can he play running back? Because if
- 23:08Speaker 3: he can, then I'm down for it.
- 23:10Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 23:11Speaker 3: I don't know where Tyreek Hill helps this offense. I
- 23:15Speaker 3: don't even know what Tyreek Hill is.
- 23:16Speaker 2: What just happened yesterday to the Chiefs? Tyquan Thornton, what
- 23:21Speaker 2: happened to him?
- 23:22Speaker 3: Well, his foot was backwards for a second.
- 23:25Speaker 2: His foot went full Robin Ventura. Have you ever watched
- 23:27Speaker 2: when Robin Ventura dislocated his ankle, dude?
- 23:29Speaker 1: Yeah. His foot went the wrong way, Vic.
- 23:33Speaker 2: And it would make sense to me that if Tyreek
- 23:36Speaker 2: Hill is out there and he wants to play football
- 23:38Speaker 2: again and the Chiefs are in need of a wide receiver,
- 23:42Speaker 2: does that make sense to you, Brett?
- 23:44Speaker 4: I wouldn't be surprised one bit if Tyreek ends up
- 23:47Speaker 4: in KC.
- 23:48Speaker 1: I would not either.
- 23:49Speaker 3: I think he wants to go back to KC.
- 23:50Speaker 4: Well, it makes total sense for him now. We don't
- 23:53Speaker 4: know what happened behind closed doors when he left. We
- 23:55Speaker 4: don't know what kind of unrest he may bring. I
- 23:57Speaker 4: think financially they can make it work, as they always do.
- 24:01Speaker 4: But if he ends up in Kansas City, watch out.
- 24:03Speaker 4: They're already good.
- 24:04Speaker 3: Here's the thing, though, man. Tyreek's 32, and he's coming
- 24:08Speaker 3: off a devastating knee injury. His game is predicated around speed.
- 24:12Speaker 1: What do you got to lose?
- 24:13Speaker 6: True.
- 24:14Speaker 1: What do you got to lose? No, true.
- 24:16Speaker 4: If I told you the Broncos brought in Tyreek Hill,
- 24:19Speaker 4: would you be excited about that?
- 24:20Speaker 3: Yeah, I would be excited.
- 24:22Speaker 2: Well, I guess I would wonder how much has his
- 24:25Speaker 2: speed been affected by this knee injury? Because, Vic, it
- 24:29Speaker 2: was a total blown knee.
- 24:30Speaker 1: You know that, right? Yeah.
- 24:32Speaker 2: I mean, it was a devastating injury to a guy
- 24:35Speaker 2: who is all speed. His entire life is speed.
- 24:42Speaker 3: Here's the interesting thing, speaking of the Chiefs. I think
- 24:47Speaker 3: the Raiders are good. I've watched them for a good
- 24:51Speaker 3: portion of that game against Kansas City. Their defense is
- 24:54Speaker 3: better than I thought they were going to be. And
- 24:58Speaker 3: Kirk Cousins is playing really good football. Like, really good football.
- 25:03Speaker 4: He's playing nothing to lose football. He's at the tail
- 25:05Speaker 4: end of his career. He knows that he's going to
- 25:06Speaker 4: lose that job eventually to the kids, so let's go.
- 25:09Speaker 3: I don't want to have to be worried about the Raiders.
- 25:11Speaker 1: Well, you are.
- 25:12Speaker 3: But I'm worried about the Raiders.
- 25:13Speaker 1: You should be.
- 25:15Speaker 3: I know we all thought, oh, they're 3-0. Who cares?
- 25:19Speaker 3: Watch the game that they played yesterday and tell me
- 25:21Speaker 3: that doesn't look like a good football team.
- 25:23Speaker 1: Fellas, did you happen to see– Hold on a second, Vic.
- 25:29Speaker 1: I need to answer that. Answer what? I'm afraid the
- 25:33Speaker 1: Raiders might be pretty damn decent.
- 25:38Speaker 3: Look at my face.
- 25:39Speaker 2: Moshe.
- 25:42Speaker 1: Look at my face.
- 25:43Speaker 4: I'm afraid that the Chargers are going to give the
- 25:45Speaker 4: Broncos all they can ask for this Sunday.
- 25:47Speaker 2: I can promise you they are not. The Broncos are
- 25:49Speaker 2: going to clean their frigging clocks. I'm not going to
- 25:54Speaker 2: look at him. Please tell my friend here that the
- 25:58Speaker 2: Broncos are likely going to be without their two starting
- 26:01Speaker 2: corners for this game. One of their most consistent receivers
- 26:05Speaker 2: for this game. And They have two games in, what,
- 26:09Speaker 2: five days? Because they've got a Thursday night following the game.
- 26:11Speaker 1: There is not a chance in hell.
- 26:13Speaker 4: Could you please tell him that he should be very
- 26:16Speaker 4: worried about this game?
- 26:17Speaker 3: No, I want you to ignore. I don't care what
- 26:19Speaker 3: you feel about the Chargers. The Broncos opponent means literally
- 26:24Speaker 3: nothing to me. How can you speak with any certainty?
- 26:30Speaker 3: When the Broncos offense looks this way. About anything.
- 26:32Speaker 4: You sound sort of dumb.
- 26:36Speaker 3: I don't care if they are playing the CU Buffs
- 26:40Speaker 3: on Sunday. If you cannot move the football effectively, worry
- 26:44Speaker 3: about yourself. Worry about your own house. The Chargers might suck.
- 26:48Speaker 3: You have no right to go about saying anything about
- 26:50Speaker 3: dominating any opponent.
- 26:52Speaker 1: I could say you sound biased or uninformed. Nice words.
- 26:56Speaker 1: But I'll be honest. You sound really dumb. I'm going
- 26:58Speaker 1: to have an aneurysm.
- 27:00Speaker 3: You spent three hours this morning yelling about the offense
- 27:02Speaker 3: and how terrible they were, and then you're like, well,
- 27:04Speaker 3: they're going to kick.
- 27:05Speaker 1: And you know why I'm about to curse? They're going to.
- 27:07Speaker 3: Kick the snot out of the Chargers this weekend.
- 27:09Speaker 1: Do you know why I'm so confident next weekend? Why?
- 27:12Speaker 3: Give me a single reason, reasonably, to be confident about anything.
- 27:18Speaker 1: Because Justin Herbert is trash.
- 27:21Speaker 3: Stop talking about the opponent.
- 27:24Speaker 1: Stop.
- 27:25Speaker 3: The opponent does not matter.
- 27:28Speaker 1: It doesn't matter.
- 27:30Speaker 3: It doesn't matter, Moshe. You have a quarterback that is
- 27:34Speaker 3: not playing well. You have a running game that is
- 27:36Speaker 3: one of the worst in the NFL. And you have
- 27:38Speaker 3: a defense that just lost two gigantic starters within the
- 27:41Speaker 3: lineup that likely won't play next week.
- 27:44Speaker 1: You have your own.
- 27:45Speaker 2: Issues to worry about. Absolutely you do. And the following
- 27:48Speaker 2: week against Seattle, I'm going to be nervous.
- 27:51Speaker 1: Big time. The Chargers suck. They're terrible.
- 27:55Speaker 2: Herbert is, dude, he's gone. Justin Herbert as a quarterback
- 28:00Speaker 2: does no longer exist.
- 28:02Speaker 1: He is junk. I'm not going to survive this week.
- 28:04Speaker 1: He's a disaster. If we're doing it this week, I'm
- 28:06Speaker 1: not going to survive.
- 28:07Speaker 2: Do you watch him play the game? He can't throw
- 28:09Speaker 2: the ball correctly. His head is not in the game.
- 28:13Speaker 2: I don't know what that woman did to him, and
- 28:15Speaker 2: I'm guessing that's probably what it is, but the money
- 28:17Speaker 2: and the woman have gotten to him, and he can't
- 28:19Speaker 2: play football anymore.
- 28:20Speaker 3: Well, a texture is with Mosher. He says, Brett, you
- 28:22Speaker 3: sound ridiculous. We just played four teams that are favored
- 28:25Speaker 3: to win this. How are four teams favored to win
- 28:27Speaker 3: Super Bowl? I guess you're just saying they're one of
- 28:28Speaker 3: the favorites.
- 28:29Speaker 1: Okay, fine.
- 28:30Speaker 3: Yes, you did.
- 28:34Speaker 1: God dang it.
- 28:35Speaker 3: How many times do I need to do this? What
- 28:40Speaker 3: we have witnessed from the Broncos offense the first month
- 28:44Speaker 3: of this season is the exact same thing we have
- 28:48Speaker 3: seen for two years agreed and i don't understand why
- 28:52Speaker 3: people are acting like well it's the opponent that you
- 28:55Speaker 3: played that's the reason why you did this well it's
- 28:57Speaker 3: it's a change in offensive coordinator well it's this it's
- 29:02Speaker 3: here's the reality guys this product on offense is no
- 29:08Speaker 3: different than than the last 30 games that they've played.
- 29:12Speaker 1: Agreed.
- 29:12Speaker 3: It's been the same. Why are people acting like this
- 29:15Speaker 3: is a surprise? Or it's the opponent. They could play
- 29:19Speaker 3: the best defense in the league. The Niners are certainly
- 29:22Speaker 3: one of them. Or they could play the Lions defense,
- 29:25Speaker 3: which is historically bad this year. And you know what?
- 29:29Speaker 3: I think the Broncos would still struggle on offense because
- 29:33Speaker 3: that's who they are.
- 29:34Speaker 1: They're going to beat the Chargers. There's video that has
- 29:36Speaker 1: surfaced now. Forget that. I want to go to another topic. Oh, boy.
- 29:40Speaker 4: There's video that has surfaced now another angle after the
- 29:43Speaker 4: game final moments Sean Payton walks to midfield to shake
- 29:47Speaker 4: the hand of Kyle Shanahan and he's intercepted by Dre
- 29:51Speaker 4: Greenlaw who quickly gets in his face and yells something
- 29:54Speaker 4: before Fred Warner has to pull Greenlaw away grabs him
- 29:58Speaker 4: by the shoulder pad and pulls him away. And the
- 30:02Speaker 4: words that were exchanged were not good. It was get
- 30:04Speaker 4: the blank off my field, Deshaun Payton. And my reaction
- 30:09Speaker 4: to this is pretty simple. This is why Dre Greenlaw
- 30:13Speaker 4: is no longer a Bronco. He's emotionally, there's something going
- 30:17Speaker 4: on there. There's something going on with him.
- 30:22Speaker 3: Dre Greenlaw played an excellent football game yesterday.
- 30:25Speaker 6: He did.
- 30:28Speaker 3: Like, he's, look, you're right. I think that it's kind
- 30:33Speaker 3: of ridiculous that he is this angry at Sean Payton
- 30:36Speaker 3: about cutting a guy who barely played for him last
- 30:38Speaker 3: year due to injury.
- 30:40Speaker 4: You did not justify your salary. You didn't do it
- 30:46Speaker 4: for whatever reason. You didn't play in games, and then you,
- 30:49Speaker 4: when you did.
- 30:50Speaker 1: Play, you got yourself suspended. Remember that? You got suspended. Yeah,
- 30:53Speaker 1: he went insane.
- 30:54Speaker 4: So, I don't understand why he's pulling that stunt. It
- 31:01Speaker 4: doesn't sit well with me.
- 31:05Speaker 2: It doesn't sit well with me either, but we don't
- 31:07Speaker 2: have to see him again. Okay, unless it's the Super Bowl.
- 31:11Speaker 2: We don't have to see him.
- 31:13Speaker 1: Screw him.
- 31:15Speaker 3: I'm kind of with you. You know what? Dre Greenland
- 31:18Speaker 3: wants to be, you know, puff his chest out after
- 31:21Speaker 3: the game to Sean Payton. Go ahead.
- 31:22Speaker 1: I don't think Sean Payton cares.
- 31:25Speaker 4: I give Sean Payton a ton of credit for ignoring
- 31:27Speaker 4: it because he was asked about it in the postgame.
- 31:29Speaker 4: He just sort of lost something over.
- 31:31Speaker 1: He didn't go into it. I'm sure it's not the
- 31:32Speaker 1: first time.
- 31:33Speaker 2: No, listen, when I say this, and I said this
- 31:36Speaker 2: to Kyle afterwards, you know, I think the world of him,
- 31:38Speaker 2: you know, really love everything about him.
- 31:40Speaker 1: And so, you know, he plays with that emotion. And so,
- 31:43Speaker 1: all good.
- 31:45Speaker 3: I wish somebody on offense played like that.
- 31:49Speaker 1: What would you do? That's such an excellent point. Can
- 31:52Speaker 1: I ask you this?
- 31:53Speaker 4: I'm going to ask this question. We'll come back and
- 31:55Speaker 4: answer it. I want both of you guys to consider
- 31:57Speaker 4: this question.
- 31:58Speaker 1: Think hard, all right? I want one quick fix to
- 32:04Speaker 1: change the dynamics of the Broncos offense. What would you do?
- 32:09Speaker 4: I've got an answer. But I want your answers. What
- 32:12Speaker 4: would you do to shake things up?
- 32:15Speaker 1: Trade for Josh Allen?
- 32:17Speaker 3: I'd run R.J. Harvey more.
- 32:20Speaker 1: Sort of wanted the answers in the next segment. There
- 32:24Speaker 1: is no easy fix. You said really quickly.
- 32:26Speaker 2: Yeah, there's no easy fix, homie. I don't know what
- 32:29Speaker 2: you're looking for.
- 32:30Speaker 1: This is how radio works. The question comes, and then
- 32:32Speaker 1: now there's a climactic, find out next. I don't speak English!
- 32:40Speaker 1: Find out next! All right, hold on.
- 32:41Speaker 3: It's a Rally House football Monday. Rally House, shop every
- 32:44Speaker 3: team in town.
- 32:45Speaker 1: We were going to talk about, oh, Vic's stupid question
- 32:48Speaker 1: before the break. What was the one thing that you
- 32:51Speaker 1: would do to fix the offense? Trade for Josh Allen. Hey,
- 32:54Speaker 1: but this guy's got a question.
- 32:56Speaker 2: The 5-8-8-6 text in. Trade Bo Nix for Herbert. A
- 32:58Speaker 2: reset for both may be good. 5-8-8-6.
- 33:02Speaker 1: God bless you for texting in and having a rational thought.
- 33:05Speaker 1: I guess that's what you think that is. You are
- 33:09Speaker 1: on board, man. I'm trying to tell you right now.
- 33:11Speaker 3: He's been screaming it all day.
- 33:13Speaker 2: I don't think the 5-8-8-6 knows just how stupid Justin
- 33:17Speaker 2: Herbert is as a quarterback now. Boys, when I tell
- 33:21Speaker 2: you this guy is junk, I mean he is Sanford
- 33:24Speaker 2: and Son junk.
- 33:27Speaker 1: We buy and sell junk. He is horrible.
- 33:29Speaker 3: I wish October Mosher could have an argument with July
- 33:32Speaker 3: Mosher about Justin Herbert and the Chargers.
- 33:35Speaker 2: So what would you do? The reason I would talk
- 33:38Speaker 2: about him is because I was afraid of him. I thought,
- 33:41Speaker 2: oh my God, there's more in there and Harbaugh's going
- 33:43Speaker 2: to get it out of him.
- 33:44Speaker 1: He's not. This guy has regressed big time. Let me
- 33:48Speaker 1: know when you're done. He is absolute crap. Brett, call
- 33:51Speaker 1: me when he's done.
- 33:52Speaker 3: I think he's done.
- 33:53Speaker 1: I'm done. Fine, go. Go on your thing.
- 33:55Speaker 4: What would you do to change or engage the Broncos offense?
- 34:00Speaker 1: What would you do? What's the one adjustment you would make?
- 34:02Speaker 1: It doesn't matter if you run the ball more because
- 34:04Speaker 1: you can't. Okay, I'll tell you what. Hey, you want
- 34:07Speaker 1: to do something? Mr. Smart Guy against the Chargers?
- 34:10Speaker 3: I think he asked me.
- 34:12Speaker 2: The first 15 plays of the game make them all
- 34:15Speaker 2: running plays. And I don't give a crap if you
- 34:17Speaker 2: go three and out every single. You try to establish
- 34:20Speaker 2: the damn run.
- 34:21Speaker 1: So if you go three and out, three runs.
- 34:23Speaker 2: And you know what you tell your offensive line? By
- 34:25Speaker 2: the way, I can't believe I saw this. It was
- 34:28Speaker 2: the Jeff Legwald epiphany. They actually ran a play from
- 34:33Speaker 2: under center in a two tight end set. Yeah.
- 34:35Speaker 1: It was like a burst from heaven. You know what?
- 34:39Speaker 2: You tell your offensive line, you tell your big, fat,
- 34:41Speaker 2: ugly tight ends, you got 160 of them.
- 34:44Speaker 1: You say, we're going to run the ball. Get your
- 34:46Speaker 1: asses running downhill and smack them in the mouth. Stop
- 34:49Speaker 1: all this motion crap.
- 34:50Speaker 4: Stop all this boot play action crap.
- 34:54Speaker 2: The 49ers played, I'm going to smack you in the
- 34:56Speaker 2: mouth football. And they kept running McCaffrey and kept running him.
- 34:59Speaker 2: And then they had the black kid coming, Keelan Black.
- 35:02Speaker 2: They hit you in the mouth and said, stop us
- 35:05Speaker 2: from hitting you in the mouth, and you couldn't.
- 35:07Speaker 1: It's a fair answer. Calm down. Brett, yours?
- 35:13Speaker 3: I would say run R.J. Harvey more because R.J. Harvey's healthy.
- 35:18Speaker 3: Can I give you guys just one point of contact
- 35:20Speaker 3: on that? Everybody's yelling about Bo Nix and Bo Nix
- 35:24Speaker 3: being the problem. I'm not saying that he's played good.
- 35:27Speaker 3: The Bears have won games two weeks in a row
- 35:30Speaker 3: and put up 50 points combined. with Bajent and Case Keenum.
- 35:35Speaker 3: Do you want to know why? Because they ran for
- 35:39Speaker 3: 230 yards yesterday. That's why they did it.
- 35:43Speaker 1: They run.
- 35:44Speaker 3: You cannot, especially if Bo Nix is not in the
- 35:48Speaker 3: elite Mahomes, Josh Allen category, which it looks like he's not,
- 35:52Speaker 3: you aren't going to have any success with no running game.
- 35:57Speaker 1: I have an idea. And my idea is pretty simple.
- 36:00Speaker 4: If you can't run the ball for whatever reason, if
- 36:03Speaker 4: you're not committed to it, how about when you come
- 36:07Speaker 4: out to start a game, rather than get all, hey,
- 36:10Speaker 4: let's try wide receiver screen with a guy in motion, hey, how.
- 36:14Speaker 1: About you throw the ball beyond the sticks maybe once
- 36:17Speaker 1: or twice? What a novel concept. How about the first
- 36:19Speaker 1: play of the game? Very first play. Just line up
- 36:22Speaker 1: Cortland Sutton, left side, back shoulder, something of that nature.
- 36:27Speaker 1: It gets picked off at that. How about actually throwing
- 36:29Speaker 1: it beyond 10 yards? Yeah.
- 36:32Speaker 2: You know, I look back to the Niners rushing attack.
- 36:36Speaker 2: You know, they ran the football 35 times yesterday.
- 36:41Speaker 1: They passed it 30.
- 36:43Speaker 2: The Broncos passed it 42 and only ran 22. McCaffrey,
- 36:48Speaker 2: Debo Samuel, Brock Purdy, Keelan Black, Jacob Cowie.
- 36:52Speaker 3: Brock Purdy ran the ball 10 times.
- 36:54Speaker 2: Yeah. By the way, it wasn't just Debo Samuel. At
- 36:59Speaker 2: the wide receiver spot. They ran the Cowan kid.
- 37:02Speaker 1: They were hurt. Yeah. I'm just saying that it's just
- 37:08Speaker 1: frustrating to watch. I'm sorry.
- 37:09Speaker 2: It's frustrating to see the same thing week after week
- 37:13Speaker 2: after week.
- 37:13Speaker 4: 8121 writes in, I love these shows after a loss.
- 37:18Speaker 4: Last week was acceptable for them playing this way because
- 37:22Speaker 4: they're winning.
- 37:23Speaker 1: Well, they're 2-2, guys. Two games they couldn't come back.
- 37:26Speaker 1: Two games they did. Here's my retort before you get
- 37:28Speaker 1: out there. Here's my retort. It's the fact that they
- 37:31Speaker 1: have to come back.
- 37:33Speaker 4: And yesterday proved that you can't rely on always coming back.
- 37:38Speaker 4: On one of those wins, you came back 16-0 down
- 37:40Speaker 4: at home with the crowd that helped you get back
- 37:42Speaker 4: in that game. You have to somehow jump out to
- 37:47Speaker 4: a lead, and not 3-0, mind you, something that gives
- 37:51Speaker 4: you a little bit of momentum. It doesn't exist right now.
- 37:55Speaker 4: So yes, they're 2-2. Yes, Bronco fans will take 2-2.
- 37:59Speaker 1: We're not silly. We're not stupid.
- 38:01Speaker 4: The schedule's tough. Of course, 2-2 is acceptable. But sometimes
- 38:05Speaker 4: you have to look beyond the record. How did they
- 38:07Speaker 4: get to 2-2?
- 38:08Speaker 1: What are they? You tell me, 8-1-2-1.
- 38:11Speaker 3: What are they?
- 38:13Speaker 1: What are they?
- 38:16Speaker 3: I'm not doing this. I'm not having people texting and
- 38:24Speaker 3: calling into this show saying, you guys said this was okay.
- 38:28Speaker 1: Shut up. Okay?
- 38:30Speaker 3: I didn't take the abuse every Monday saying this is
- 38:33Speaker 3: still a problem and having people saying shut up, they
- 38:36Speaker 3: won to me over and over again. For you to
- 38:38Speaker 3: try and act like I'm the other way around. I'm
- 38:43Speaker 3: not doing that. I'm not doing that.
- 38:45Speaker 1: Okay?
- 38:45Speaker 3: You can call. Maybe another show has been saying this.
- 38:48Speaker 3: Not this one.
- 38:49Speaker 1: Not this show.
- 38:50Speaker 2: What's the name of the running back from Indiana that
- 38:51Speaker 2: plays for the 49ers? I know what you're on because
- 38:56Speaker 2: the way you said it. I know what you're on.
- 38:58Speaker 3: That's why I was silent for a while because all
- 39:02Speaker 3: I was doing was laughing.
- 39:04Speaker 1: Because Mosher shot it. Okay, here's the thing.
- 39:07Speaker 4: That black kid.
- 39:11Speaker 1: His name is Kalor Black. What are you going to say?
- 39:13Speaker 1: I know the way you said it. You guys are idiots.
- 39:15Speaker 1: Everybody's an idiot. The whole world is full of idiots.
- 39:18Speaker 1: The way you said it, though. The way you said this. Nope.
- 39:24Speaker 1: I mean, come on.
- 39:25Speaker 4: To be fair, I got a lot of heat for one-hand...
- 39:30Speaker 4: I got a lot of heat for that.
- 39:31Speaker 1: What if I said the cook's kid? Or the bidet kid?
- 39:35Speaker 3: I know what you meant.
- 39:36Speaker 1: The used shit kid. What if I said that? You
- 39:38Speaker 1: shot it. Everybody just get bent. It's not even that
- 39:41Speaker 1: you shot it. You shouted it so angry. It's his name!
- 39:50Speaker 1: That's his name! His God-given family name! I hate you all.
- 39:55Speaker 4: 4394 says, I am a black man, and that blank
- 39:58Speaker 4: that Mosher just did was hilarious.
- 40:01Speaker 1: Don't be so damn sensitive.
- 40:07Speaker 3: You have no idea how funny that is.
- 40:12Speaker 1: It's his name. It's because you were fuming and frothing
- 40:16Speaker 1: at the mouth. You got into your usual.
- 40:18Speaker 4: Just out of context, ridiculous self.
- 40:24Speaker 1: I want to hear it. It's hilarious.
- 40:27Speaker 2: It is.
- 40:27Speaker 1: It is. We all know what you meant. Listen, we're
- 40:30Speaker 1: not dumb. We know what you meant.
- 40:31Speaker 2: Why can't we run the football like they do with
- 40:34Speaker 2: all those kids?
- 40:35Speaker 1: Shut up. Shut up. Run it. Do you have it?
- 40:44Speaker 1: I need to hear it again. Why can't the Broncos
- 40:47Speaker 1: run the football? I'm sick.
- 40:50Speaker 2: Dude, we're not going anywhere this year if you can't
- 40:53Speaker 2: tote the rock. Dobbins is not himself. Harvey's not a
- 40:57Speaker 2: between-the-tackles guy. Coleman's on the shelf.
- 40:59Speaker 1: To be fair, the Niners usually give it to the
- 41:02Speaker 1: white kids.
- 41:02Speaker 2: They do.
- 41:04Speaker 1: You guys are idiots.
- 41:06Speaker 3: The guy who carries the ball the most is the
- 41:08Speaker 3: white kid.
- 41:09Speaker 1: You're right.
- 41:11Speaker 3: It's true.
- 41:12Speaker 1: You're not going to get me to laugh. I'm not
- 41:13Speaker 1: going to do it. I'm in one right now. What
- 41:16Speaker 1: if James White played back there?
- 41:17Speaker 3: Well, that's what I was thinking. James White, the white kid.
- 41:20Speaker 3: But then it'd be very confusing. If James White was
- 41:22Speaker 3: the backup to Christian McCaffrey and Moser and Gilles, they
- 41:25Speaker 3: give it to the white back, then I don't know
- 41:28Speaker 3: who he's talking about.
- 41:30Speaker 1: You have to be more precise. That's all. Just be
- 41:36Speaker 1: more precise.
- 41:36Speaker 3: What if the backup running back's name was Cracker?
- 41:39Speaker 1: Cracker.
- 41:41Speaker 4: You know what?
- 41:44Speaker 1: I'm out of here. I'm out.
- 41:46Speaker 2: I've got nothing left to contribute to this program today.
- 41:49Speaker 1: Do you have it? I'm combing for the kid. I'll
- 41:54Speaker 1: let you know. I'll let you know.
- 41:56Speaker 3: We'll get it before the end of the show. It's hilarious.
- 42:01Speaker 3: But Mosher's right. He is right.
- 42:05Speaker 4: About?
- 42:07Speaker 3: Get a running game.
- 42:09Speaker 1: I don't care what kid you have.
- 42:10Speaker 3: Make a trade.
- 42:12Speaker 1: A trade for what? I don't care. Before I'm done,
- 42:16Speaker 1: I've got to get this off my chest, too. If
- 42:18Speaker 1: you're not going to run the ball, what good does
- 42:20Speaker 1: a trade do for you?
- 42:21Speaker 2: I told you this during a commercial break. Let me
- 42:22Speaker 2: tell it on the air to all the football fans
- 42:25Speaker 2: out there. And I'm going to go ahead and I'm
- 42:28Speaker 2: going to commiserate with our boy Brett and his family.
- 42:33Speaker 2: Because it has got to be the most excruciating experience
- 42:38Speaker 2: in all of sport to be a Lions fan. They
- 42:44Speaker 2: can be so good and so bad and so dumb
- 42:47Speaker 2: at the same time.
- 42:48Speaker 1: It's all-encompassing.
- 42:50Speaker 2: And I can't wrap my head around it, but I
- 42:52Speaker 2: finally told the family yesterday, I feel sorry for you
- 42:55Speaker 2: losers because that team is just a complete mind-bend.
- 43:00Speaker 1: That being said, if I'm the Lions, you know what
- 43:02Speaker 1: I do, Vic? I trade for anything that can help
- 43:05Speaker 1: my secondary. A friggin' Labrador Retriever.
- 43:07Speaker 2: I'll do anything to help my secondary, and they won't
- 43:10Speaker 2: do it because they're stupid and because.
- 43:12Speaker 1: Their GM is a big scaredy cat. I would do
- 43:16Speaker 1: anything to fix this running game.
- 43:18Speaker 2: I don't care who you trade for or what you
- 43:20Speaker 2: go get off somebody's practice squad.
- 43:23Speaker 1: Right now, what you're doing ain't working. Do anything. Anything.
- 43:29Speaker 4: I don't care what you do. You know, another play
- 43:31Speaker 4: that I found funny. So they run that early flea flicker, right?
- 43:38Speaker 4: In my humble opinion, this is just me. The flea
- 43:41Speaker 4: flicker is an optimal thing to run after you eat
- 43:45Speaker 4: them in the run game.
- 43:46Speaker 1: Like you're like pounding the run. Boom. Oh, God. Linebackers
- 43:50Speaker 1: are coming. Boom. Oh, my God. They're going to run
- 43:52Speaker 1: it again.
- 43:52Speaker 5: Boom.
- 43:53Speaker 4: But they're running the flea flicker early in the game
- 43:56Speaker 4: when they haven't established the run game yet.
- 43:58Speaker 1: So it's like, who are you fooling here?
- 44:01Speaker 3: I'm going to run a fake punt on first down.
- 44:03Speaker 3: Who are we fooling?
- 44:05Speaker 2: Vic, what are the safeties doing for the 49ers yesterday?
- 44:08Speaker 1: They laid back there and said, hey, let me know
- 44:11Speaker 1: when they throw the ball more than 10 yards.
- 44:12Speaker 2: Because play action doesn't work because you can't run the ball.
- 44:15Speaker 2: They can just sit back there too deep all day
- 44:18Speaker 2: long and keep everything in.
- 44:19Speaker 1: Front of them. There's no threat. It's just, it's frustrating, Brett.
- 44:24Speaker 1: I'm sorry.
- 44:25Speaker 3: What were you yelling about on your leg at me
- 44:27Speaker 3: in the break? What was this?
- 44:31Speaker 1: That my motorcycle broke down yesterday. I had to push
- 44:32Speaker 1: it home uphill. That sucked.
- 44:35Speaker 3: And Mosier pointed at his leg. He's got a scratch
- 44:37Speaker 3: on there.
- 44:38Speaker 1: A scratch? I'm damn near amputated.
- 44:42Speaker 3: And he pointed at it. And Vic, he yells at me.
- 44:45Speaker 1: I'm a badass. He didn't say that. I'm a badass.
- 44:50Speaker 3: Screamed it at me.
- 44:51Speaker 1: Because he hurt himself moving his motorcycle. Moving it? Dude,
- 44:55Speaker 1: I had to push it half a mile uphill. Big deal.
- 44:58Speaker 1: You know how many times I have to move my hog?
- 45:02Speaker 3: Fact checker, please.
- 45:05Speaker 2: Nelly monitors the mistakes in today's Fact Checker.
- 45:09Speaker 1: Fact Checker. Presented by Backus & Shanker. Serious lawyers for
- 45:14Speaker 1: the seriously injured.
- 45:15Speaker 6: A couple quick ones here. First of all, Vic actually
- 45:19Speaker 6: had a great tease. He tried to tease something that
- 45:21Speaker 6: we were going to do after the break, and then
- 45:24Speaker 6: Moj and Brett, you guys ruined it immediately.
- 45:26Speaker 1: I'm going to ask this question. We'll come back and
- 45:27Speaker 1: answer it. I want both of you guys to consider
- 45:30Speaker 1: this question. Think hard. All right? I'm done. I want
- 45:33Speaker 1: one quick to change the dynamics of the Broncos offense.
- 45:40Speaker 6: And then you guys immediately answered the question. Just completely
- 45:43Speaker 6: ruined Vic's tease.
- 45:45Speaker 1: My bad.
- 45:46Speaker 6: And also, Mosher, what are your thoughts on the 49ers
- 45:48Speaker 6: running game?
- 45:49Speaker 2: The 49ers played, I'm going to smack you in the
- 45:52Speaker 2: mouth football.
- 45:53Speaker 1: And they kept running McCaffrey and kept running him. And
- 45:56Speaker 1: then they had the black kid coming. Get on black.
- 46:01Speaker 1: It's his name!
- 46:06Speaker 3: It is just funny that they're the only team in
- 46:08Speaker 3: the league with a white running back as their starter.
- 46:12Speaker 3: It is just, it's hilarious. But you're right.
- 46:16Speaker 1: Oh, it's a real laugh riot.
- 46:20Speaker 3: You know what?
- 46:20Speaker 1: I don't know why I came in here. I don't
- 46:22Speaker 1: know why I do this.
- 46:25Speaker 3: iTunes, Spotify, Mosher Lombardi and Kane.
- 46:27Speaker 4: Texter says, as a Mexican, I'm so glad Mosher doesn't
- 46:30Speaker 4: talk baseball.
- 46:31Speaker 1: You know what? 2-9-5-6.
- 46:31Speaker 3: I'm... When Kevin Brown was pitching?
- 46:38Speaker 1: Oh, God. I don't speak English! And with that.
- 46:45Speaker 2: If you think I'm in tomorrow, you're sorely mistaken. I
- 46:47Speaker 2: am not coming in.
- 46:48Speaker 3: We'll talk to you tomorrow. Love you, see you.
- 46:50Speaker 2: Okay. And they kept running McCaffrey and kept running him.
- 46:52Speaker 1: And then they had the black kid coming. He's all
- 46:54Speaker 1: in black.