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Ep. 46 - Meet the Athlete who created Planet of Gymnastics · Beyond the Paw - Clemson Athletics

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  Speaker 1: Hey everyone, welcome back to another episode of Beyond the Pod.
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  Speaker 1: Today we have a very special guest. We have Hannah Olaverros,
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  Speaker 1: also known as Planet of Gymnastics on Instagram. Hannah began
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  Speaker 1: her career in gymnastics as a highly recruited gymnast who
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  Speaker 1: scored a nine nine on beam in her collegiate debut
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  Speaker 1: and was named Big ten Freshman of the Week. She
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  Speaker 1: teared her achilles ten days later and later underwent four
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  Speaker 1: hit surgeries or is going to undergo before today on Monday.
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  Speaker 1: Then she which forced her to medically retire. She pivoted
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  Speaker 1: into social media. She launched the Ohio State Athletics TikTok
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  Speaker 1: and running OSU's football digital channels. That experience and her
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  Speaker 1: love for the sport led to her start of Planet
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  Speaker 1: of Gymnastics, the Instagram account which now has over three
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  Speaker 1: hundred and fifty thousand followers. Today we'll talk about her journey,
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  Speaker 1: her internships, how she built her brand, her partnership with
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  Speaker 1: us Glove, and her vision for the future. Yay, Hannah, Welcome,
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  Speaker 1: Hi everyone.
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  Speaker 2: Busy usy busy girl, very busy. Yeah ma get that way.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, So I don't even know where to start start.
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  Speaker 1: I guess start with your gymnastics journey. You started at
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  Speaker 1: Ohio State. Talk about like your recruiting process, which school
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  Speaker 1: you wanted to choose and why.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: So when I was recruiting, I feel so old. But
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  Speaker 3: the NIL rules were different. Yeah, so there wasn't really
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  Speaker 3: an age limit on when you could get recruited. I
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  Speaker 3: went to my first JO Nationals, which was like the
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  Speaker 3: Level ten Nationals when I was thirteen or fourteen, and
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  Speaker 3: then got recruited from there. Placed while at Nationals, got
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  Speaker 3: my first full ride scholarship at fourteen, wow, and then
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  Speaker 3: had a few school offers. But Ohio State was in
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  Speaker 3: the Big ten. It was close enough to home in
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  Speaker 3: Chicago without being at home, so committed there at fifteen.
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  Speaker 1: And it's insane, but you know where you're going at
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  Speaker 1: fourteen years old.
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  Speaker 3: I don't think you do. But anyways, went to Ohio State.
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  Speaker 3: Was really young for my grades. I started school when
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  Speaker 3: I was seventeen and everything was going great. It was
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  Speaker 3: during COVID freshman year, but I had a great freshman debut.
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  Speaker 3: We competed an arrival at Michigan and scored a nine
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  Speaker 3: to nine in the last event when Big ten freshmen
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  Speaker 3: of the week. As she said, ten days later, tore
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  Speaker 3: my achilles. I had never been hurt before, so I
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  Speaker 3: literally didn't know what to do.
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  Speaker 2: With my life. I felt so bad for the coaches.
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  Speaker 3: I'm like, oh my gosh, you're paying for me and
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  Speaker 3: I just oh, here tearing my achilles. And at that point,
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  Speaker 3: I was a sports psychology major. I wanted to do
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  Speaker 3: something in sports psych That's what I decided at fifteen.
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  Speaker 3: But I was like, well, I need to help out
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  Speaker 3: with the team somehow because I don't want to just
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  Speaker 3: sit here watching everyone. So I asked my coach if
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  Speaker 3: I could run the Ohio State Ohio State Gymnastics Instagram.
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  Speaker 1: And you were there like, sid, yeah, kind of okay.
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  Speaker 3: So I helped post on stories and then post on
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  Speaker 3: in feed while I was rehabbing. And then sophomore year,
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  Speaker 3: I was able to come back to gym, had a
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  Speaker 3: great season, but I was still posting on Instagram, and
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  Speaker 3: I ended up changing my major to communication technology so
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  Speaker 3: that I could just figure out more of what digital
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  Speaker 3: media meant. After sophomore season, got an internship with Ohio
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  Speaker 3: State Athletics and my summer it was supposed to be
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  Speaker 3: a summer internship and my project was to launch a
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  Speaker 3: High State Athletics TikTok.
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  Speaker 2: We didn't have one yet.
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  Speaker 1: Oh wow, yeah, that's a cool project. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: It was really fun too because I was working in
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  Speaker 3: athletics so I could work with all thirty six of
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  Speaker 3: our sports at Ohio State.
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  Speaker 2: It went really well.
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  Speaker 3: We got from zero to one hundred K in a
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  Speaker 3: few months and I was like, oh, I like it here,
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  Speaker 3: that's awesome. So then they kept me on. Yes, they
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  Speaker 3: kept me on till the end of graduation. So going
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  Speaker 3: into junior year, I was now working at high state
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  Speaker 3: football games while training my junior year pre season, so
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  Speaker 3: I'd come into the.
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  Speaker 1: Gym on Saturday. We were still training this entire time.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, yes, okay, yeah I was.
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  Speaker 3: I was still on the team doing everything while also
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  Speaker 3: running on High State Women's Gymnastics Instagram.
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  Speaker 2: I was now with Ohio Stay Athletics.
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  Speaker 3: As a digital media intern and my role on football
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  Speaker 3: game days was posting live on a High Stay Athletics
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  Speaker 3: for football, and then I did a little bit of
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  Speaker 3: TikTok as well. But we had practice during game days,
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  Speaker 3: so I would come in by myself at like seven
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  Speaker 3: am so I could start practice earlier and then finish
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  Speaker 3: practice earlier and then I'd go walk to the stadium to.
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  Speaker 2: Work a whole football game day from there. Yeah, but
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  Speaker 2: I loved it.
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  Speaker 3: I had never thought that this was a path that
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  Speaker 3: I could go down.
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  Speaker 1: That's crazy, kind of like thinking that at fourteen you
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  Speaker 1: need to know what you want to do with your
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  Speaker 1: yea too, and like eventually finding out what.
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  Speaker 3: You love right especially and it all coming from tearing
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  Speaker 3: my gillies. So it really does because I well, first
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  Speaker 3: of all, finishing what I was but while I was
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  Speaker 3: then working for High Athletics, I finished it that year
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  Speaker 3: still posted on Instagram, how did junior season?
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  Speaker 1: How did that go?
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  Speaker 3: Junior season was good, but I started struggling a ton
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  Speaker 3: mentally and it was just getting to be a lot
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  Speaker 3: for me, and I had decided by the end of season,
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  Speaker 3: I was like, I just need to medically retire just
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  Speaker 3: for my own mental health.
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  Speaker 1: Which was it like your body or was it like
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  Speaker 1: just mentally?
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  Speaker 3: It was my body and my mind and at the time,
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  Speaker 3: like my hips were hurting, but I didn't know why
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  Speaker 3: we had been. I had like gotten them checked out
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  Speaker 3: in high school and then throughout college.
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  Speaker 2: It was just really like.
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  Speaker 3: Showing in my hamstring, so we didn't know that it
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  Speaker 3: was my hips gotcha.
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  Speaker 2: So I just kept on going.
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  Speaker 3: I didn't know anything was wrong, but it definitely played
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  Speaker 3: into my decision. But we found out in my exit meeting,
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  Speaker 3: because you have to do like your physical to exit.
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  Speaker 3: Found out that I had a ton wrong with my hips.
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  Speaker 3: I had two torn labrams and also hip displasion both
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  Speaker 3: so it's a year recovery on both with hips, and
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  Speaker 3: then you need your screws out and they basically just
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  Speaker 3: do hip for construction and break your hips and everything.
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  Speaker 2: At the same time, or.
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  Speaker 3: They could only do one at a time because you're
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  Speaker 3: like you're out, like you can't move. They break your
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  Speaker 3: hips and they broke it four times, rotated it, and
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  Speaker 3: then put four four inch screws in, and then they
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  Speaker 3: took them out a year later. And then I had
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  Speaker 3: my left hip and then I get my screws out
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  Speaker 3: on Monday.
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  Speaker 1: Oh my god.
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  Speaker 2: But while I was.
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  Speaker 3: Doing while I was finding all of this out, I
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  Speaker 3: had medically retired and clearly I didn't think my resume
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  Speaker 3: was good enough because I also worked with NBC Sports
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  Speaker 3: at this point too, So I was interning with Ohiostate
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  Speaker 3: Athletics and NBC Sports, But it wasn't.
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  Speaker 1: The process of that, yeah, and how you got that? Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: But I first want to talk about, like, also, you're
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  Speaker 1: dealing with an achilles injury and all of these hip injuries,
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  Speaker 1: Like how did you get through that?
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  Speaker 3: I truly think that being able to just have an
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  Speaker 3: outlet in something else besides the sport saved me and
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  Speaker 3: was just helped me in so many ways because it
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  Speaker 3: was something that I was passionate about that had nothing
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  Speaker 3: to do with my own performance. Clearly, coming back from
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  Speaker 3: all this injuries, your performance is going to decline and
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  Speaker 3: this is just not how I had planned college to go.
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  Speaker 3: So being able to go into an office and go
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  Speaker 3: into these game days just having all my focus on
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  Speaker 3: something else really just helped me in the long run.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I was thinking like how you, like, how did
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  Speaker 1: you expect your college years to go? And I'm sure
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  Speaker 1: this is not the way No, like everyone expects, Oh,
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to go to college, I'm going to compete
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  Speaker 1: at the highest level, and I'm going to have the
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  Speaker 1: best seasons ever, right, and then that's not always the
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  Speaker 1: way it goes.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that it was a very big shock
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  Speaker 3: to me, especially freshman year. Just having such a big debut.
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  Speaker 3: I literally went from like the top of the world
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  Speaker 3: to just crashing down in ten days. And I guess
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  Speaker 3: I never really got the chance to visualize what my
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  Speaker 3: college career could have been, just because everything happened so quickly.
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  Speaker 3: But once I started realizing that I was more than
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  Speaker 3: an athlete, and that sport shaped me, but it's not
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  Speaker 3: my identity. Once I got over that, I was like, Okay,
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  Speaker 3: I'm fine, Like it doesn't really matter at the end
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  Speaker 3: of the day, Like I'm just grateful to be here
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  Speaker 3: and to have this experience and whatever happens happens.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I think that's what's so powerful about college sports though,
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  Speaker 2: if you can look at it as a vehicle, right,
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  Speaker 2: an opportunity. You got your education paid for and all
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  Speaker 2: access to all these things. Yeah, it still hurts, right,
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  Speaker 2: and your sport is done, and it takes a long
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  Speaker 2: time for that grieving process, But using it as a
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  Speaker 2: vehicle to opportunity and not letting it use you, that's
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  Speaker 2: the good stuff. Yes, you can take something on the
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  Speaker 2: journey with you and you're.
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  Speaker 4: Allowed to like figure out what you wanted to do
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  Speaker 4: in life. Whereas, like, like you said, you came in
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  Speaker 4: at fourteen, you thought you wanted to do something else,
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  Speaker 4: Like so many people just like don't really know what
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  Speaker 4: they're doing.
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  Speaker 1: But like you found that outlet and you found that,
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  Speaker 1: you know.
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  Speaker 2: Through your school. So that's also really cool. Yeah, that
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  Speaker 2: you had that.
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  Speaker 3: I like to say that, like everything ended up happening
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  Speaker 3: for a reason.
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  Speaker 2: But I took the absolute hardest way to get to
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  Speaker 2: get to where I am now. But you really made
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  Speaker 2: sure you were doing what she wanted to do. Exactly
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  Speaker 2: what did senior year look like then? Because you medically
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  Speaker 2: retired after your junior year?
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  Speaker 3: Yes, so senior year I created a Planet of Gymnastics
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  Speaker 3: in the parking lot after a doctor's appointment.
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  Speaker 1: Just to clarify for people. Planet of Gymnastics is where
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  Speaker 1: we go to for all of our gymnastics news information,
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  Speaker 1: Like we call like the Gymnastics World online the Gymternet too,
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  Speaker 1: and it's like, oh yeah, it's like this really weird
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  Speaker 1: like foreign place where people like, oh, look at the
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  Speaker 1: leotards from this team, or oh, like she got a
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  Speaker 1: nine to nine, she de served like a nine to seven.
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  Speaker 1: Like like people like go go back and forth fight
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  Speaker 1: in the comments, like it's talk about leotards.
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  Speaker 3: Like it's the gym community is tough. It's like scary.
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  Speaker 2: They're very tight knit.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know how they know each other or
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  Speaker 1: if they or what, but like after anything gymnastics wise happened,
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  Speaker 1: they're like bickering back and forth, like whether it's on Twitter,
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  Speaker 1: whether it's on Planet of Gymnastics Hannah's page, Like I
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  Speaker 1: remember she posted a leotard of ours once and it
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  Speaker 1: was a pretty leotard. There was some like you know,
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  Speaker 1: controversy over it just because it was like all mesh
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  Speaker 1: in it like was see through, but like we were
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  Speaker 1: wearing things under the leo, so it wasn't really see through.
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  Speaker 1: So there was a lot of like controversy over that.
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  Speaker 1: And I would just look at the comments, like there'd
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  Speaker 1: be like two hundred comments of people not even Clemson affiliated,
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  Speaker 1: fighting back and forth.
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  Speaker 2: Over the leotar retard.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, just just on the leotard, not over performance, not
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  Speaker 1: over anything else. The leotards.
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  Speaker 3: Gymnastics isn't hard enough ready, but people want to dissect
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  Speaker 3: what you're wearing that you didn't have a say.
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  Speaker 1: Over, right, Like you we have no control over what
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  Speaker 1: we're wearing, like whether you like it or not we
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  Speaker 1: have to wear it so and we're already so like,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know gymnastics wearing a letard, you're already so
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  Speaker 1: like exposed kind of. So it's just people talking about
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  Speaker 1: your body and stuff like that. It's just a lot. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: but Hannah facilitates.
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  Speaker 2: Facilitate the negative comment.
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  Speaker 1: No, she doesn't facilitate any of any of the comments too.
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  Speaker 1: She just puts it out there. But it's a scary
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  Speaker 1: place and you've made a big name for yourself through
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  Speaker 1: the Planet of Gymastics. Just wanted to hear that for
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  Speaker 1: people who don't know, because it's super niche I feel
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  Speaker 1: like there's no like, you know, in football, there's like
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  Speaker 1: House of Highlights and like ESPN and all of these
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  Speaker 1: different other Instagram Instagram accounts that follow football that's not
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  Speaker 1: directly like NCAA football, you know the account, So there
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  Speaker 1: are places where people can talk about these other sports
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  Speaker 1: and like, I'm sure they have it for volleyball too,
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  Speaker 1: And Planet of Gymnastics kind of reminds me of another
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  Speaker 1: Instagram account like that.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm flattered.
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  Speaker 4: So you did it in the parking lot of your
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  Speaker 4: doctor's appointment. Yes, So how did that like all come
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  Speaker 4: to your mind, Like what was the thing where you're like,
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  Speaker 4: I want to make this account.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, so it's funny that you mentioned House of Highlights.
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  Speaker 3: That was what my boyfriend was working at at the time.
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  Speaker 3: He's also in social media and he had a few
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  Speaker 3: Instagram pages of his own, and I already liked social media. Oh.
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  Speaker 3: I already liked social media, but I had never thought like, oh,
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  Speaker 3: I can just make my own page.
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  Speaker 2: So he was kind of.
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  Speaker 3: Pushing me to do it, and I was like, no,
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  Speaker 3: like I don't really want to. I at this point
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  Speaker 3: hate gymnastics. I want nothing to do with it. But
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  Speaker 3: I did want to grow my resume, and I was like, well,
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  Speaker 3: the only sport I would know how to post would
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  Speaker 3: be gymnastics. So I don't know what came over me.
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  Speaker 3: After the doctor's appointment, I was like, fine, I'll do it.
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  Speaker 3: It was actually called gim World.
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  Speaker 1: One oh one, Oh gosh. He was like, please change
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  Speaker 1: that gym world one.
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  Speaker 3: It doesn't off the time, No, no, it doesn't. I'm
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  Speaker 3: glad that he came up with a better name for that.
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  Speaker 3: But yeah, as Eva was saying, the gym trenet can
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  Speaker 3: be a very good place but also very negative and
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  Speaker 3: seeing the effects that the sport had had on me,
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  Speaker 3: I really wanted to change that one. There was already
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  Speaker 3: not a platform that gave news and highlighted at a
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  Speaker 3: level comparable to the NFL or ESPN or something like that.
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  Speaker 3: But I also wanted to make sure that I was
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  Speaker 3: just highlighting athletes that usually wouldn't be seen, especially in gymnastics.
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  Speaker 3: It's growing, but small and coverage isn't At the time
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  Speaker 3: wasn't as great as it has been in the past
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  Speaker 3: two years. So I wanted to highlight people not just
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  Speaker 3: at the top of their college career, but also girls
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  Speaker 3: that are just getting their KIP and Level four, or
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  Speaker 3: people that may not make it to college but they
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  Speaker 3: just did something really great in Level eight. But then
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  Speaker 3: also all the college athletes that from Clemson who had
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  Speaker 3: their inaugural season to Oklahoma. I just wanted to highlight
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  Speaker 3: a ton of different people in showcase what they were doing.
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  Speaker 3: But I was embarrassed. I didn't want people to know
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  Speaker 3: it was me. So I promised myself. I was like, Okay,
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  Speaker 3: if one day I hit one hundred thousand followers, I
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  Speaker 3: will let people know that it was me posting.
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  Speaker 1: Wait, no one knew it was you.
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  Speaker 2: No, I didn't want to tell anyone, Okay, yeah, why
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  Speaker 2: I was too scared? Yeah, why were you scared? The
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  Speaker 2: whole like.
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  Speaker 3: There there wasn't a page like this, and I didn't
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  Speaker 3: want it to come off as like I was gymnastics obsessed,
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  Speaker 3: but in like a why I don't know, I didn't
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  Speaker 3: like gymnastics now, I didn't like it, and also like
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  Speaker 3: I didn't want people to get the wrong impression of it.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know what that impression could have been, but
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  Speaker 3: starting anything new is scary, and I didn't want people
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  Speaker 3: to judge me. I was scared of what the response
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  Speaker 3: would be. So being able to not tell anyone was
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  Speaker 3: great until I hit one hundred thousand fowers in two and.
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  Speaker 2: A half months, and then I was like, oh man,
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  Speaker 2: But the reaction was great.
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  Speaker 3: When people realized that it was a gymnast behind the page,
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  Speaker 3: they really connected to that and they're like, Okay, this
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  Speaker 3: is by a gymnast for other gymnasts, and they really
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  Speaker 3: liked that. And I tried to keep the captions and
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  Speaker 3: comments very personable, and I think that I've grown a
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  Speaker 3: really fun, big community because of that, and I'm able
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  Speaker 3: to get good engagement in good comments, some bad with
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  Speaker 3: Leo's but people flocked to my Instagram to be able
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  Speaker 3: to talk about gymnastics now. And it's not something that
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  Speaker 3: I would have imagined, but I grew it to two
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  Speaker 3: fifty k in less than a year, three hundred k
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  Speaker 3: by two years. It was just in Forbes this summer
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  Speaker 3: and wait, can you tell.
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  Speaker 1: Me about that?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah?
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  Speaker 1: I was just in for Yeah, we like Forbes thirty
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  Speaker 1: under thirty. Like what are we talking about?
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  Speaker 3: No, So a Forbes sports journalist DMed me and she
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  Speaker 3: was just like, Hey, I I write for Forbes, I guess,
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  Speaker 3: and I would really like to do an article on
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  Speaker 3: you about Planet Gymnastics. And I was like, is this real?
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  Speaker 3: And I looked through he stuff and she looked real.
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  Speaker 1: So did you have to travel somewhere?
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  Speaker 2: Did you know?
• 16:15
  Speaker 3: We did a online We did a zoom interview this
• 16:18
  Speaker 3: past summer and then she wrote everything released it. We
• 16:22
  Speaker 3: talked about my life like we're doing right now, how
• 16:26
  Speaker 3: I grew up in this sport, and then just she
• 16:28
  Speaker 3: kind of highlighted everything that Planet Dynastics had grown to
• 16:32
  Speaker 3: be over the past two years.
• 16:34
  Speaker 2: So yeah, it was really cool. You should check it out.
• 16:38
  Speaker 2: That's awesome. How are you everywhere. Yeah, Like you have
• 16:41
  Speaker 2: so much diverse content on your page. Yeah, and I
• 16:44
  Speaker 2: may not. You can't be in a million places at once,
• 16:47
  Speaker 2: but you are moving all over.
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 16:49
  Speaker 2: How do you stay up to date and in tune
• 16:51
  Speaker 2: and keep up with relevant content?
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: Because you had stuff from the Olympics too, Yeah, did
• 16:55
  Speaker 1: you go there?
• 16:56
  Speaker 2: No?
• 16:57
  Speaker 3: I would love to go to la though. That would
• 16:59
  Speaker 3: be that's my next, like big, big goal. But in
• 17:03
  Speaker 3: terms of staying relevant, my screen time is off the charts.
• 17:05
  Speaker 3: You don't want to see it. But I worked in
• 17:09
  Speaker 3: the NFL last year, and I think that being able
• 17:12
  Speaker 3: to all your free time, all my free time. I
• 17:17
  Speaker 3: worked in the NFL last year, worked at the Cleveland
• 17:19
  Speaker 3: Browns and social media for a season.
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: He worked with Jameis Winston.
• 17:23
  Speaker 3: I did work with Jameis Winston. He asked my name
• 17:25
  Speaker 3: at practice so that he can say hi to me.
• 17:27
  Speaker 3: I was like, oh my gosh, this is nice.
• 17:28
  Speaker 2: This is my nice. Yeah, it's all downhill from here.
• 17:33
  Speaker 3: But being able to work at such high caliber and
• 17:36
  Speaker 3: seeing how social media has ran and then how I
• 17:39
  Speaker 3: can improve gymnastics was very helpful and something that helped
• 17:42
  Speaker 3: me fall back in love with the sport is seeing
• 17:45
  Speaker 3: it from a lens that I love social media and
• 17:48
  Speaker 3: being able to bring gymnastics fans content and different views
• 17:52
  Speaker 3: behind the scenes of something that they've never seen just
• 17:55
  Speaker 3: because no one has thought in that way yet. Is
• 17:58
  Speaker 3: how I like to think that I keep my content diverse.
• 18:01
  Speaker 3: And if you go on like at least my for
• 18:04
  Speaker 3: you page now was just filled with all of these
• 18:06
  Speaker 3: girls in different gyms. So like, my biggest dream is
• 18:08
  Speaker 3: to be posted on planete Mass, which is so cool.
• 18:12
  Speaker 3: But then like I asked the permission to post that,
• 18:14
  Speaker 3: and then I can post that, and like that's how
• 18:16
  Speaker 3: I keep the community very tight knit. Is like showing
• 18:19
  Speaker 3: all angles instead of just highlights of a sport.
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: That's so cool. What's the lesson that you learned from
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: your time with the Browns? So then what's on your
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: page now.
• 18:29
  Speaker 3: I learned It's called like helmet off content, So everything
• 18:32
  Speaker 3: that you do outside of practice or games. So I'd
• 18:37
  Speaker 3: be in the locker room with the guys after practice,
• 18:38
  Speaker 3: before practice, and you're just trying to show off their personality.
• 18:42
  Speaker 3: And that's kind of how I came up with this
• 18:43
  Speaker 3: college takeover that I launched this preseason. Is I wanted
• 18:47
  Speaker 3: to showcase not only the athlete's personality, which you don't
• 18:51
  Speaker 3: get to see very often, but different parts of the
• 18:53
  Speaker 3: sport that hasn't been shown. That's why I was in
• 18:57
  Speaker 3: the media room yesterday and I was up in the
• 19:00
  Speaker 3: dio board controls. It was in the rafters yesterday too.
• 19:03
  Speaker 3: You were, yes, it was scary, so high. I was terrified.
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: I'm not going back. I was like one of the interns.
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: I was like, please just send me this. I can't
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: be up here anymore.
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: Oh my gosh.
• 19:13
  Speaker 3: But like when I was with Florida, which I was
• 19:16
  Speaker 3: this past two days ago, I was just talking to
• 19:20
  Speaker 3: their sports analysis person and so we're just going through
• 19:23
  Speaker 3: different parts of the sport that you wouldn't have seen.
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: But the NFL has already been able to produce.
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: So I feel like that content is so fun to
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: watch too, Like I see that on my TikTok all
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: the time, or the yeah, what's your favorite Thanksgiving food
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: or something like that. Like it's stuff that's like so
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: stupid and like could seem minuscule, but it kind of
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: shows me like, oh, like I kind of like the
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: personality of this player, like I'm maybe going to tune
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: in to this game or something like that, you're able
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: to get more like eyeballs relatable.
• 19:51
  Speaker 3: Yeah, thanks, and that's what I think. It's fun to
• 19:55
  Speaker 3: be able to pick my brain that way, especially not
• 19:57
  Speaker 3: being in school anymore, graduating last year. Example, I have
• 20:00
  Speaker 3: a post that I'll be doing for Clemson later that
• 20:03
  Speaker 3: at the showcase, instead of just filming them warming up
• 20:06
  Speaker 3: on ball, I noticed that they have these cards that
• 20:08
  Speaker 3: they flash to the people that are setting the table
• 20:11
  Speaker 3: and setting the springboard and everything like that, and people
• 20:14
  Speaker 3: wouldn't normally see that, and it's something that's so zoomed
• 20:17
  Speaker 3: in in gymnastics, Like it's such a minuscule detail that
• 20:20
  Speaker 3: it would have never been shown. So instead of just
• 20:23
  Speaker 3: recording their vault warm ups like anyone else would and
• 20:26
  Speaker 3: like I know that content will already be out there,
• 20:28
  Speaker 3: I'm really trying to like, look at okay, what can
• 20:31
  Speaker 3: I do instead?
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: Like how are we communicating with the team?
• 20:35
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so I miked up. I think it was Sophie
• 20:38
  Speaker 3: where Hannah was, I don't remember who.
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: I think it was Sierra who was splashing the cards.
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: No, Sierra was flashing the cards.
• 20:44
  Speaker 3: And then I don't remember who was down there, but
• 20:46
  Speaker 3: I miked her up and she's holding all of the
• 20:48
  Speaker 3: settings and like that's something that like all gymnasts would
• 20:50
  Speaker 3: already know, but no one else would be able to see,
• 20:52
  Speaker 3: and just making the sport accessible to a ton of
• 20:56
  Speaker 3: non gymnastics fans.
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: To clarify for the non gymnastics fans who listen on vault,
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: we have different settings. So the table raises from I think,
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: I think it will range in call it from like
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: one twenty to one thirty, So you go one twenty
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: one twenty five, one thirty, and based on your height,
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: based on how you block, like you have a different setting,
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: So I go on one thirty and then like one
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: of my other teammates go on one twenty five. And
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: then that's the same with the board that we punch
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: off of too, like it you have to like line
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: it up to the specific numbers, like next to the
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: vault runway and that that's the same with the hand
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: matt too, And you can change the hand mat from
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: long ways vertical or like horizontal, and.
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: They're all like measured out.
• 21:39
  Speaker 3: So like my vault setting was five thirty six foot,
• 21:42
  Speaker 3: so the back of the springboard used to be five
• 21:44
  Speaker 3: feet three inches away from the table, And I want
• 21:47
  Speaker 3: my hand, Matt at six feet away from the table, right,
• 21:50
  Speaker 3: And that's something that gymnasts understand, but no one else
• 21:53
  Speaker 3: would have even thought to know about that.
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah, And it's based on like your stride of your
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: run too, like how quick you run, if you take
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: like smaller steps in your run, like it. It's all
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: based on that, and then you start a specific number,
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: like I start at like seventy three and a half
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: feet away from the vault table, so I can take
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: ten steps, but that maybe twelve steps for some other
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: person who runs differently than me or something like that.
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: It's very, very very technical. Yeah, I didn't think I
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: would ever be able, like I would ever have to
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: like explain that, because it's like it's something I don't
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: really think about it because it's so natural.
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: But no one else would know. Yeah, no, that's why
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: that's why you're gonna get a video too.
• 22:30
  Speaker 4: Like not a lot of sports have that like specific
• 22:32
  Speaker 4: even like football. Obviously it's like huge and like there's
• 22:36
  Speaker 4: all these like accounts for it, but like I don't
• 22:38
  Speaker 4: really feel like any of that's going on, you know,
• 22:40
  Speaker 4: like the you know, the small things that you don't
• 22:43
  Speaker 4: really see. I feel like that's like so unique even
• 22:45
  Speaker 4: for like gymnastics, and.
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: If you sets and if you set the table or
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: the mat wrong or you start at a different place,
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: your whole vault is messed up, which can be like
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: essentially catastrophic.
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, literally dangerous, yes.
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: Very dangerous. Yeah, And so it's an important that we
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: have those people who like put up the numbers or
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: put up the mats or like read out whose whose
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: vault table is going where? Because you can die. I
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: don't want that sounds like morbid. I'm you could not.
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: Get very dangerous quickly.
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: You can get very very seriously injured. So yesterday we
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: had cr flashing up these numbers. It's like an eight
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: for like an eight intr mat that we land on
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: or was it like a P. It is a C.
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: It was a C for comp that's like what we
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: compete on, like we're ready to warm up our comp
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: vault that we're ready to go. The eight is for
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: when we're warming up, like are like layouts.
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: I don't know, it's just in the video and you'll
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: be like, oh.
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: So that you guys do. Yeah, you guys set that
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: up or like the team the team does, like and
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: we managers. Yeah, and it's something we have to practice
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: too every day. Excuse me. We practice that in the
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: gym as well. So it's like seamless because we're being
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: timed fifteen minutes, so it has to run very smoothly,
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: so seven eight girls can all go and get enough
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: turns to be able to warm up their comvault in
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: the fifteen minutes.
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: So I would have never known that detail.
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: And luckily takes three seconds. But we have to do
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: that for the other events too. And then don't get
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: me started on bar settings because people go on different
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: bar settings too, and then people want the bar sprayed,
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: people want it like chalk taken off of it. And
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: then some girls are taller, so they have to have
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: it higher at the bar higher and then the low
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: bar lower, like it's it's a lot, a lot that
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: happens in between each turn, and then sometimes it can
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: get in your head if the bars are too loose
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: or too tight, like it's a lot, like I'm getting hot.
• 24:43
  Speaker 3: This is always like to be on the social media side,
• 24:45
  Speaker 3: like I already had so much anxiety, Like gymnastics just
• 24:48
  Speaker 3: elevated my Yeah, old times.
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• 25:24
  Speaker 1: How is that experience for you last night? Experiencing Clemson
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: for the first time. I know it wasn't an actual
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: meet and like, you'll have to come back for an
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: actual meeting because it gets sold out. We have sold
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: out crowds literally and we had a good amount of
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: people last night too. But I just wanted to know
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: from your experience, how how was watching that.
• 25:43
  Speaker 3: I was so impressed just everything that you guys have
• 25:47
  Speaker 3: been able to build up into now this is only
• 25:49
  Speaker 3: your third season. The fans are so engaged, even going
• 25:53
  Speaker 3: driving around campus, like you have your showcase posters up
• 25:56
  Speaker 3: everywhere and people are interested. And the way that the
• 26:00
  Speaker 3: video boards are explaining what a deduction is and what
• 26:04
  Speaker 3: vault is and all of these things. I thought that
• 26:06
  Speaker 3: everything was just I was telling your coaches, it's like,
• 26:09
  Speaker 3: if you're gonna bring a new sport into a school,
• 26:12
  Speaker 3: this is the way to do it.
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: There was I was blown away by it. It was
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: really cool.
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah, what about the gymnastics. Gymnastics, y who stood out
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: to you?
• 26:22
  Speaker 3: I know, we have a lot of new girls seem
• 26:24
  Speaker 3: too gymnastics. I was really impressed with Lily just because
• 26:28
  Speaker 3: I knew that she had come back from a really
• 26:30
  Speaker 3: tough surgery. Bree Clark is always fun to watch Ellissario.
• 26:36
  Speaker 3: I love her bars and yeah, and you know Ella, Yes,
• 26:39
  Speaker 3: I do know Ella. We've known each other since high school.
• 26:41
  Speaker 3: We went on a gymnastics like all star trip when
• 26:43
  Speaker 3: we were were from the same state, So, like, you
• 26:47
  Speaker 3: qualify for this.
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: Did you guys ever go to the same club gym
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: or we did?
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: Okay, I don't know if we ever.
• 26:53
  Speaker 3: I don't know if we ever overlapped, but we knew
• 26:56
  Speaker 3: each other from a tansa but we went to the
• 26:58
  Speaker 3: same gym. So yeah, Bree, Ella, you obviously on everything
• 27:02
  Speaker 3: you do, You're amazing. It's really cool seeing Emma that
• 27:07
  Speaker 3: you guys have already been able to get an international
• 27:09
  Speaker 3: gymnast in three years. That's something that, like I competed
• 27:13
  Speaker 3: at Ohio State for so long, we didn't have it.
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: We don't have an international gymnast right now.
• 27:18
  Speaker 3: So it's just really cool to see how quickly the
• 27:21
  Speaker 3: gymnastics is progressing and how quickly the program as a
• 27:25
  Speaker 3: whole is too.
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree.
• 27:28
  Speaker 4: I want to go back to like where you grew
• 27:29
  Speaker 4: up because I'm from Chicago too, So what part are
• 27:31
  Speaker 4: you from?
• 27:32
  Speaker 3: And I was from close to shambrig and Elgin.
• 27:34
  Speaker 4: It's called Streamwood, okay, but I'm from Deerfield so that's
• 27:38
  Speaker 4: like yeah, like right near there basically neighbors.
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's crazy.
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: So like what where did you train?
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: Oh?
• 27:46
  Speaker 3: I trained everywhere because so are you a gym hopper? Yes?
• 27:51
  Speaker 3: But I hate that term because I had no say
• 27:53
  Speaker 3: over what happened. So, like I started at Mega. Loved
• 27:57
  Speaker 3: that place, but it was an algin and and I
• 28:00
  Speaker 3: was the highest level that you could be and I
• 28:02
  Speaker 3: was Level eight, so there was nowhere else to go.
• 28:04
  Speaker 3: So then I went to Legacy Elite.
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: Which is fun.
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: That's where eight. Yeah, that's where yes.
• 28:10
  Speaker 3: Ella an Angel were, But then just had some of
• 28:14
  Speaker 3: my own bad experiences. Quit gymnastics as a whole when
• 28:17
  Speaker 3: I was like eleven years old. I was in Level nine.
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: And I feel like every gymnast has been there. Yeah.
• 28:22
  Speaker 3: I quit for like a good two months, and then
• 28:24
  Speaker 3: one of my coaches from Legacy Elite was like, hey,
• 28:26
  Speaker 3: can you come back?
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: And I was like yeah, fine. So then I trained
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: went to IGI for all of high school.
• 28:32
  Speaker 3: Then the gym got shut down Sonet had to go
• 28:33
  Speaker 3: back to Mecca where I had originally started.
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: So oh wow.
• 28:37
  Speaker 3: So that's why I technically wasn't like a gym hopper
• 28:39
  Speaker 3: by choice. It just happened that out of your control.
• 28:42
  Speaker 3: Every bad thing could have happened.
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: When did you start gymnastics?
• 28:47
  Speaker 3: I did a mommy and me class when I was
• 28:49
  Speaker 3: very young, and then that was about it. And then
• 28:51
  Speaker 3: I started breaking couches trying to flip over them. And
• 28:54
  Speaker 3: I think that I was the broken couches that my
• 28:56
  Speaker 3: mom put me in at five.
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: Yes, I feel like gymnasts just start so early, and
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: I was late. Five years old was late? Wait?
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: I started at five, and I tell people I started
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: like pretty young.
• 29:07
  Speaker 3: Oh really, When I've talked to they're like, oh, I
• 29:10
  Speaker 3: was in the gym at two and three years old.
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: I'm like, yeah, what are you doing it too?
• 29:13
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you're just tumbling at that point, rolling around, not
• 29:18
  Speaker 3: breaking couches.
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: So I guess five years old because my teammates start
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: like at three, right, started at three. I never even
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: thought about that, Like I'm five years old and I'm old.
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah, kind yeah.
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: You know what's crazy is Bree Clark. She started at
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: I think eight or either eight or like eleven like
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: she started later on. I think she did like a
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: tumbling thing or like a cheer thing before she started,
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: and then got her start and then has been able
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: to progress, so that that's really always shocking to me.
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: She needs that very very late gymnastics.
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: Wait, talk about how you got your internship with NBC
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: Sports to because I feel like that's a highly cupeted internship. Yes,
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: and I feel like it would give some of our
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: listeners maybe some insight on like jobs, careers, things like that.
• 30:10
  Speaker 3: So I think that one working in sports, the main
• 30:13
  Speaker 3: thing is that you're always making connections as much as
• 30:15
  Speaker 3: you should probably be doing your best job every single day.
• 30:19
  Speaker 3: Connections will get you very very far in the industry.
• 30:23
  Speaker 3: And so I had already done good work with Ohio
• 30:25
  Speaker 3: State Athletics, and my boss came to me and she
• 30:28
  Speaker 3: said that NBC Sports was looking for someone in journalism.
• 30:32
  Speaker 3: I had never done journalism ever, but I was like,
• 30:35
  Speaker 3: when else is this opportunity going to come around? So
• 30:38
  Speaker 3: I was like, sure, let me do it for you guys.
• 30:40
  Speaker 3: So I wrote an article for them, published my first
• 30:44
  Speaker 3: NBC Sports article while I was in pre season and
• 30:46
  Speaker 3: working for a High States That was because why not?
• 30:50
  Speaker 3: What else was I going to do? So that was
• 30:53
  Speaker 3: my junior year. But after I had published it and everything,
• 30:57
  Speaker 3: I emailed my boss for NBC Sports. I was like,
• 31:00
  Speaker 3: I'm more into video content creation. I will very much
• 31:05
  Speaker 3: be happy to keep writing articles for you. But they're like, great,
• 31:08
  Speaker 3: let's send you over to content creation. So then I
• 31:10
  Speaker 3: got to create videos, published I guess a ton of
• 31:13
  Speaker 3: videos for them that were on their website. And then
• 31:16
  Speaker 3: you just need to ask.
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: Literally yeah.
• 31:18
  Speaker 3: People are probably scared of me because I will take
• 31:21
  Speaker 3: any answer because I know that the worst is no.
• 31:24
  Speaker 3: That's how I'm at these colleges, That's how I did
• 31:26
  Speaker 3: my LEO collab with GK. I actually have to get
• 31:30
  Speaker 3: into the I just asked because what's the worst that
• 31:34
  Speaker 3: can happen. But that's how I got into NBC Sports
• 31:37
  Speaker 3: as a whole. That's how I published an article and
• 31:39
  Speaker 3: then also did videos. Was just doing my best work
• 31:42
  Speaker 3: making sure that anything that my boss at a high
• 31:44
  Speaker 3: state was asking me, I was over delivering every single time,
• 31:47
  Speaker 3: so that I was the person that she asked when
• 31:49
  Speaker 3: NBC needed someone.
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: It's crazy. What is the Leo collab?
• 31:53
  Speaker 3: So GK Lee is like the world's leading brand of
• 31:56
  Speaker 3: dymnastics apparel. There who TMSA wears at the Olympics. They
• 32:00
  Speaker 3: signature lines with some of bios Sunny Lee, everyone like that,
• 32:02
  Speaker 3: and then they also are who college gymnastics wares. But
• 32:09
  Speaker 3: me just always having a dream of every gymnast dream
• 32:12
  Speaker 3: is to design a leotard. I was like, Eh, why
• 32:14
  Speaker 3: not DM them? So I DMed them asking. I was like,
• 32:17
  Speaker 3: can we please do some sort of Leo clab. I
• 32:19
  Speaker 3: just got over my two years owning this page and
• 32:24
  Speaker 3: I think that gym fans would really love it. And
• 32:27
  Speaker 3: so we went through all these meetings and finally agreed
• 32:31
  Speaker 3: on whatever we were going to do.
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: So it's a very exclusive LEO.
• 32:34
  Speaker 3: We decided on a twelve like there's only twelve that
• 32:39
  Speaker 3: are ever being made, and so GK does a giveaway
• 32:42
  Speaker 3: in December from December first to twelfth. They really give
• 32:45
  Speaker 3: back to the gymnastics community by doing a giveaway.
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: So every day for.
• 32:50
  Speaker 3: Twelve days, someone wins four leos and they can go
• 32:52
  Speaker 3: on the website and they can choose four leos and
• 32:54
  Speaker 3: they just get them for free. But we made a
• 32:56
  Speaker 3: twist on it that this year they would pick three
• 32:59
  Speaker 3: leos and they would win this one leo of mine.
• 33:02
  Speaker 3: So the only way to get this leo would be
• 33:03
  Speaker 3: to win the giveaway. Wow, happening right now. You should
• 33:06
  Speaker 3: probably enter cool Cool. But it did really well in
• 33:11
  Speaker 3: the first day, so it just launched the number first.
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: Today's the fifth.
• 33:14
  Speaker 3: I think it launched the first and in the first
• 33:16
  Speaker 3: twenty four hours it was almost at twelve thousand comments
• 33:19
  Speaker 3: and entries.
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: Wow and sane, I thank you.
• 33:23
  Speaker 3: I was just blown away because I was like, no way,
• 33:25
  Speaker 3: I'm doing like I have an actual leo with this
• 33:28
  Speaker 3: brand that I've spent way too much of my mom's
• 33:30
  Speaker 3: money wearing throughout my gymnastics.
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: But yeah, just just by asking, just by asking an idea. Yeah,
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: a lot of work that went in before asking, but.
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: I was going to ask what was the process that
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: went into like creating the LEO? Number one in asking yes.
• 33:48
  Speaker 3: So the asking was easy, you can ask for whatever
• 33:51
  Speaker 3: you want. But then it was the one of the
• 33:55
  Speaker 3: managers responded to me, and at first they were interested
• 33:58
  Speaker 3: but not too much. But we said up a meeting anyways,
• 34:01
  Speaker 3: and we kind of got to know each other. Hear
• 34:03
  Speaker 3: what I mean on both sides. You have to make
• 34:05
  Speaker 3: sure that they're getting the brand exposure they want. I'm
• 34:08
  Speaker 3: getting what I the compensation that I should get from
• 34:12
  Speaker 3: it and things like that. But then after that I
• 34:16
  Speaker 3: kind of didn't hear from them for a while, and
• 34:19
  Speaker 3: then on a Monday, they're like, Hey, we actually really
• 34:22
  Speaker 3: want to do this LEA with you. Can you have
• 34:24
  Speaker 3: designs by Wednesday? So I had two days to design
• 34:27
  Speaker 3: a LEO. Nice I've never designed a LEO in my life.
• 34:31
  Speaker 3: They're like, just send us all of your LEO inspo.
• 34:34
  Speaker 3: So I sent probably like ten leotards. And for non
• 34:39
  Speaker 3: gymnastics people, there's a lot that goes into leotard from
• 34:42
  Speaker 3: the cut of the high neck or where you want
• 34:45
  Speaker 3: the neckline to be, then what straps you want, what
• 34:48
  Speaker 3: type of material you want the actual leotard to be.
• 34:51
  Speaker 3: And then I sent them hex codes for different colors
• 34:54
  Speaker 3: that I wanted, and then where the sequence will go
• 34:56
  Speaker 3: on the back? Do you want any cutouts and all
• 34:59
  Speaker 3: of these different things.
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: So I did that.
• 35:01
  Speaker 3: In a day and a half so that I could
• 35:02
  Speaker 3: send it back to them, because you want to send
• 35:04
  Speaker 3: it in like way before the deadline so if they
• 35:06
  Speaker 3: want to keep working with you, So then they have
• 35:09
  Speaker 3: a designer that takes all of my inspo gives me something.
• 35:12
  Speaker 3: And so they gave me a first rough draft and
• 35:14
  Speaker 3: they're like, you have I think it was a few
• 35:16
  Speaker 3: days maybe a week to have the final thing, and
• 35:18
  Speaker 3: this is what we're creating.
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: It's like okay.
• 35:21
  Speaker 3: So I called my best friend from home, she just
• 35:25
  Speaker 3: graduated from Michigan State for gymnastics, and I was like,
• 35:28
  Speaker 3: I need help.
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: It's midnight and I need to.
• 35:30
  Speaker 3: Get this in so on FaceTime, you know how you
• 35:33
  Speaker 3: can like draw. Yeah, So we drew this better like
• 35:38
  Speaker 3: edited leo. We took in we use like the color
• 35:41
  Speaker 3: pickers that it matched the colors of the leo, and
• 35:44
  Speaker 3: just drew in where we wanted changes to be.
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: And that's what I sent into GK. I was like,
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: I can.
• 35:50
  Speaker 3: Show you guys the drafts later, but I was like,
• 35:53
  Speaker 3: this needs change and this and this, and then they
• 35:55
  Speaker 3: loved it and now it's being produced. I'm going in
• 35:59
  Speaker 3: January to the Protection Facility so that whoever wins, I'll
• 36:02
  Speaker 3: be there to they're having me sign like handwritten notes,
• 36:04
  Speaker 3: and then also just getting content of them making this leon.
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: Now that is so fun. So in the Planet of
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: Gymnastics brand, thank you, Like, do you have merch? Like
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: what's coming up next?
• 36:15
  Speaker 3: For I would love to get into merch. It's just
• 36:19
  Speaker 3: clothing is a whole big monster that I haven't tackled yet.
• 36:25
  Speaker 3: But right now, the biggest thing was this college takeover.
• 36:28
  Speaker 3: I still have a few more schools to go to.
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: Okay, explain the college takeover to yes, Like, you went
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: to Florida, you went to Michigan State, You're now here
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: at Clemson. Who else is on the list? Why did
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: you want to do this?
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: Kind of explained a little bit of getting the background
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: of people who like do their sport, but who they
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: are off the mat as well.
• 36:46
  Speaker 3: But yeah, I really wanted to do this because in
• 36:49
  Speaker 3: my comments last year, a ton of people after season
• 36:52
  Speaker 3: were saying, hey, I'm from somewhere in Europe. I'm from
• 36:55
  Speaker 3: a different country. This is the first time I've had
• 36:57
  Speaker 3: access to NCAA, and as trying to grow the sport,
• 37:00
  Speaker 3: the best way to do it is give fans across
• 37:03
  Speaker 3: the world access, especially free access, and so that's how
• 37:06
  Speaker 3: this kind of came up. I was like, all these
• 37:08
  Speaker 3: things that I took for granted or that was just
• 37:10
  Speaker 3: my normal day as a student athlete, nobody else has
• 37:13
  Speaker 3: ever seen. And so I started again. Just my first
• 37:17
  Speaker 3: DM was to the Florida head coach. I was like,
• 37:20
  Speaker 3: I want to come to your school. Can we make
• 37:22
  Speaker 3: that happen? And that was like in the summer, So
• 37:24
  Speaker 3: all of these plans have been happening for a very
• 37:27
  Speaker 3: long time to make sure then that when I get
• 37:29
  Speaker 3: a sponsor that our contract is my pitch deck was
• 37:31
  Speaker 3: good enough for them to sign a contract with me.
• 37:34
  Speaker 3: And then from there you're going I'm just literally dming
• 37:37
  Speaker 3: these coaches like hey, please let me come to your school.
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: And it's got to be daunting, like you have to
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: explain like why right, Like you're coming here to film
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: my athletes for a while.
• 37:47
  Speaker 3: Yes, yes, And the fact that all these coaches have
• 37:49
  Speaker 3: believed in me and been able to give me this
• 37:51
  Speaker 3: access has been so rewarding to just see and fulfilling,
• 37:56
  Speaker 3: like you believed in Planetive Dynastics enough to let me
• 37:59
  Speaker 3: be able to do this. But yeah, so I'm trying
• 38:02
  Speaker 3: to go behind the scenes in a ton of different ways.
• 38:04
  Speaker 3: So I've talked to the academic advisors, I've talked to
• 38:07
  Speaker 3: sports psychologists, I met with people that are in your
• 38:11
  Speaker 3: recovery rooms and things like that. Everything that gymnastics fans
• 38:15
  Speaker 3: haven't been able to see, especially not for free, and
• 38:18
  Speaker 3: just being able to give people this access and being
• 38:22
  Speaker 3: able to grow the sport in this way is just
• 38:25
  Speaker 3: so much fun for me. I have very very fun
• 38:29
  Speaker 3: top schools that I'm going to next, and it's been
• 38:33
  Speaker 3: really cool because all of these schools have been reaching
• 38:35
  Speaker 3: out to me instead of it being the other way
• 38:37
  Speaker 3: as they've seen the first few come in. I've had
• 38:40
  Speaker 3: like maybe four or five more schools in the SEC
• 38:44
  Speaker 3: big ten everywhere asking for me to come to them next.
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: That is so cool. Cool kind of get to put
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: the school on a pedestal too, and ye give the
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: school more exposure as well. So I don't see why
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: they would say.
• 38:54
  Speaker 2: No, right exactly, so that's so cool that you get
• 38:56
  Speaker 2: to do that. Thank you. How do you go about
• 39:00
  Speaker 2: out building your brand? Like even going from that parking
• 39:03
  Speaker 2: lot you're starting it, you grew it so quickly, you
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: continue to grow it. I think people hold themselves back, right,
• 39:10
  Speaker 2: and all the fears that you talked about are so real.
• 39:13
  Speaker 2: But how do you take that next step and just try?
• 39:16
  Speaker 2: And I'm sure there's been things that you've tried that
• 39:17
  Speaker 2: didn't work, but I think growing a brand is daunting. Yeah,
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: it's easier to not do it than to try and
• 39:25
  Speaker 2: maybe see the reward that you're now seeing, but sometimes
• 39:28
  Speaker 2: you don't. It takes longer. How did you just go
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: for it? I went for it because I.
• 39:34
  Speaker 3: Was just at such a bad mental place and I
• 39:38
  Speaker 3: really just needed something to do. I wasn't getting out
• 39:41
  Speaker 3: of bed for like seventeen hours in the day, but
• 39:43
  Speaker 3: at least I could post on planet, and so I
• 39:46
  Speaker 3: gave myself a goal. It was like three or five
• 39:48
  Speaker 3: posts every day, which was very hard at the beginning
• 39:52
  Speaker 3: when you're first learning how everything works and editing and things.
• 39:56
  Speaker 3: But I posted every day consistently. Then you get your
• 39:58
  Speaker 3: first viral posts and then it's just like.
• 40:01
  Speaker 2: You're addicted to it.
• 40:04
  Speaker 3: After senior year, I was now working in the NFL,
• 40:07
  Speaker 3: so I would finish my NFL game day, I would
• 40:09
  Speaker 3: come back to Massics meets would be on. I would
• 40:11
  Speaker 3: post until midnight one am. You just have to really
• 40:14
  Speaker 3: want it, especially just right out the gate when you're
• 40:18
  Speaker 3: trying to grow. I mean this is now December marks
• 40:20
  Speaker 3: two and a half years. But for the first two
• 40:22
  Speaker 3: years I didn't see any return on anything. It was
• 40:24
  Speaker 3: just because for the love of.
• 40:25
  Speaker 2: The game, I guess, but.
• 40:28
  Speaker 3: You just once I found what I liked to do,
• 40:32
  Speaker 3: there wasn't really much that was going to stop me
• 40:34
  Speaker 3: from seeing what could be next. So for the first
• 40:37
  Speaker 3: year or two, it was just growing that brand identity
• 40:39
  Speaker 3: so that people knew who I was. I after some
• 40:42
  Speaker 3: NC DOUBLEA weekends, I would have like twenty posts in
• 40:45
  Speaker 3: a night, and so I just did not stop.
• 40:49
  Speaker 2: And then once I felt.
• 40:51
  Speaker 3: Like I had enough brand, like people knew who I was,
• 40:54
  Speaker 3: then I started reaching out to these colleges and I
• 40:57
  Speaker 3: started doing these clubs with GK and doing things like
• 41:02
  Speaker 3: this that otherwise you wouldn't be able to do, even
• 41:05
  Speaker 3: reaching out to level times because I want to highlight
• 41:07
  Speaker 3: other people I'd reach out to level times when they
• 41:09
  Speaker 3: made it's national, It's like, hey, send me your videos.
• 41:11
  Speaker 2: I'd love to highlight you.
• 41:13
  Speaker 3: So just trying to reach every part of the sport
• 41:15
  Speaker 3: and just bringing everyone together ends up giving you.
• 41:19
  Speaker 2: A lot of content. Just how much are you willing
• 41:22
  Speaker 2: to do in a day? Wow?
• 41:24
  Speaker 4: What was that feeling like like when you first got
• 41:26
  Speaker 4: that like viral video or like your most viewed video.
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: What was the viral video too?
• 41:32
  Speaker 3: Well, the first one like viral to me at the beginning,
• 41:36
  Speaker 3: when I had like fifty followers, was like one hundred
• 41:38
  Speaker 3: k and it was this one of my old teammates.
• 41:41
  Speaker 3: Her name is londz of It, and she competed at
• 41:43
  Speaker 3: IOWA and she stuck a vault and for some reason
• 41:45
  Speaker 3: it just like did really well. I started gaining followers.
• 41:48
  Speaker 3: I was like, oh my gosh, this is so fun.
• 41:50
  Speaker 3: And that also gave me the confidence that I needed
• 41:52
  Speaker 3: to continue to post, because when you start from zero,
• 41:55
  Speaker 3: it's like so daunting. You're like, this is kind of dumb.
• 41:57
  Speaker 3: Why am I posting for twenty followers right now? But
• 41:59
  Speaker 3: I love all twenty followers. But just that first viral
• 42:04
  Speaker 3: video really just gets you going to keep growing.
• 42:08
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I feel like on social media too, Like I
• 42:10
  Speaker 4: feel like I always hear like just post, like keep posting,
• 42:13
  Speaker 4: post what you want to post, because like at some point,
• 42:16
  Speaker 4: like I feel like you do catch like that break
• 42:18
  Speaker 4: or like you hopefully do so like would you say,
• 42:20
  Speaker 4: like for people that want to like grow their content,
• 42:23
  Speaker 4: grow their brand, like just to keep posting.
• 42:25
  Speaker 3: Yeah, keep posting, but also try to give yourself at
• 42:27
  Speaker 3: least some sort of niche or reason.
• 42:30
  Speaker 2: You don't want to just post.
• 42:32
  Speaker 3: I mean, you could just post whatever you want to,
• 42:34
  Speaker 3: but I like to think that I have a little
• 42:36
  Speaker 3: bit of some strategy going on behind what I do.
• 42:40
  Speaker 3: But for a ton of people, the hardest part is starting.
• 42:42
  Speaker 3: And for me it was because I was embarrassed or scared.
• 42:45
  Speaker 3: So I just blocked people that I thought would make
• 42:47
  Speaker 3: me scared and that was the only thing that was
• 42:50
  Speaker 3: stopping me at that point. So really, just I think
• 42:54
  Speaker 3: the biggest thing that I've learned is you don't wait
• 42:56
  Speaker 3: for opportunities.
• 42:57
  Speaker 2: You make them.
• 42:58
  Speaker 3: And once I got over that, I was like, Okay,
• 43:00
  Speaker 3: I've made an opportunity for myself. I'm not gonna let
• 43:02
  Speaker 3: the fear of people judging me get in the way.
• 43:04
  Speaker 3: Block them that's done with the next step is to
• 43:06
  Speaker 3: start posting three to five times a day, grow it
• 43:08
  Speaker 3: to twenty posts a day, and then I love that.
• 43:12
  Speaker 2: Because that's real, right other people, as much as we
• 43:14
  Speaker 2: want to say, maybe we don't care about what other
• 43:16
  Speaker 2: people think we do like r flan'll just block them. Yeah,
• 43:19
  Speaker 2: you're just not going to see my content if you
• 43:21
  Speaker 2: want to talk to real life, like come stay ahiad
• 43:23
  Speaker 2: to me. But I love that.
• 43:25
  Speaker 4: And you're growing your own opportunities, like you're not waiting
• 43:27
  Speaker 4: for people to like be like hey, like can you
• 43:30
  Speaker 4: do this, Like you're like no, Like this is my brand,
• 43:32
  Speaker 4: Like I let me show you like who I am
• 43:34
  Speaker 4: and you know what I stand for.
• 43:36
  Speaker 2: So that's really cool.
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: You're being super proactive about everything. I feel like you,
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: what's like one thing you wish you knew before you
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: started all of this, like two years ago in the
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: parking lot, Like, what's one thing or one piece of
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: advice you would give yourself.
• 43:50
  Speaker 3: Don't let yourself be down by criticism. It'll happen anyways.
• 43:57
  Speaker 3: But once you get your first takee comments, that.
• 44:00
  Speaker 2: Means you made it. So it means you're big enough
• 44:03
  Speaker 2: to have made it.
• 44:04
  Speaker 3: So I think I take those to heart, especially just
• 44:07
  Speaker 3: as a gymnast, everything is like everything is you're under
• 44:12
  Speaker 3: a microscope, Like everything is just scrutinized about everything, and
• 44:16
  Speaker 3: so that was the hardest part for me.
• 44:18
  Speaker 2: I like to I'm a people pleaser.
• 44:20
  Speaker 3: I want people to like me, and so sometimes I'd
• 44:23
  Speaker 3: be so down about some of the comments. I'd be like,
• 44:25
  Speaker 3: I don't want to post anymore. But then I just
• 44:29
  Speaker 3: see all the people that have enjoyed my content and
• 44:32
  Speaker 3: I'm like, Okay, well I keep doing it. So yeah,
• 44:35
  Speaker 3: I just don't care what people think. They're all BB's.
• 44:38
  Speaker 3: There will always be more people that do care.
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: I feel like it's so hard to because as as
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: a gymnast, you're a perfectionist, so you want everything to
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: be perfect at all times, and that's just never the
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: way things work out. So like learning that and being
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: able to move on from that is a great lesson
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: for anyone as they're starting to build their brand.
• 44:57
  Speaker 2: Yes, things like that.
• 44:57
  Speaker 3: Yeah, my boyfriend makes fun of me because after working
• 45:00
  Speaker 3: for House of Highlights and now he is a social
• 45:01
  Speaker 3: media manager elsewhere. But like the amount of perfection that
• 45:06
  Speaker 3: goes into my posts, Like if I don't like the size,
• 45:08
  Speaker 3: I'll like tweak it just by one size, or I'll
• 45:11
  Speaker 3: have to like make sure that it's centered like ten
• 45:14
  Speaker 3: times before I can post. So it's been my downfall
• 45:17
  Speaker 3: a little bit.
• 45:18
  Speaker 2: But I just listened to a speaker who had said,
• 45:21
  Speaker 2: if you have haters, it means you're doing something right. Exactly.
• 45:24
  Speaker 2: People are going to hate because of their own insecurities
• 45:27
  Speaker 2: or jealousies because they wish that they could or would
• 45:30
  Speaker 2: do that. So congratulations, thank you so much, Thank you
• 45:34
  Speaker 2: so much.
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: I just wanted to ask one final question. What has
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: been your favorite reaction from either a celebrity or someone
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: who's acknowledged your post or something like that that you've
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: been like, oh my gosh, like I'm starstruck.
• 45:49
  Speaker 3: I think the first time that I was like, oh wow,
• 45:53
  Speaker 3: what is going on? Last year, they're always in doctor's appointments,
• 45:59
  Speaker 3: but I had just back from either a surgery check
• 46:02
  Speaker 3: up or physical therapy. I was on the parking lot
• 46:03
  Speaker 3: and Sissa reposted my posts and I was like, I
• 46:06
  Speaker 3: have a vinyl of you. You're in my Spotify wrapped
• 46:10
  Speaker 3: like I really liked Scissa, and she reposted and commented
• 46:14
  Speaker 3: and she did multiple times, and then from there like
• 46:16
  Speaker 3: I had a ton of like someone in the NBA
• 46:18
  Speaker 3: and then just influencers that have nothing to do with gymnastics, and.
• 46:24
  Speaker 1: That's a crazy, crazy yeah that we're showing gymnastics to.
• 46:28
  Speaker 3: These Yeah, I've had some of the Kardashians like my
• 46:31
  Speaker 3: stuff and wow. It was like, this is just so
• 46:34
  Speaker 3: weird but fun, especially because I started the page after
• 46:38
  Speaker 3: I was done with gymnastics, so I think besides like
• 46:41
  Speaker 3: the celebrities, just seeing the gymnasts, like I had two
• 46:45
  Speaker 3: of your teammates yesterday, We're like, oh my gosh, I'm
• 46:47
  Speaker 3: a big Planet gymnastics fan. I feel like I should
• 46:48
  Speaker 3: be fangirlling. It was like, that's so weird because I
• 46:51
  Speaker 3: didn't see any of this.
• 46:53
  Speaker 2: When I was a gymnaste.
• 46:55
  Speaker 3: Created this and then posted from my couch, so I
• 46:59
  Speaker 3: just love seeing how much it's impacted gymnasts.
• 47:02
  Speaker 2: So fun.
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  Speaker 1: Literally it's inspiring too.
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  Speaker 4: It's like you just like literally just created your own
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  Speaker 4: path and like what you wanted to do, so like
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  Speaker 4: definitely inspiring for people who are like unsure of what
• 47:12
  Speaker 4: they want to do.
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  Speaker 2: To thank you. And now it's my full time job.
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  Speaker 3: I created my own business this past summer, so I
• 47:18
  Speaker 3: do social media management for different clients and then plan
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  Speaker 3: it also is just another side gig. I guess that
• 47:24
  Speaker 3: happened to do really well. But now I get to
• 47:27
  Speaker 3: do this all for free or all for fun and
• 47:30
  Speaker 3: full time, not for free, not for free paid.
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  Speaker 1: I get that is so fun. Hannah. Thank you for
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: coming on.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you for having me.
• 47:39
  Speaker 1: Where can people find you on social media? I know
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: you said it a bunch of times, but if they
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: haven't heard, where can people find you? Either your personal,
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: your TikTok.
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  Speaker 3: Anything Instagram and TikTok would be out Planet of Gymnastics,
• 47:51
  Speaker 3: and then my personal is hannd Olivos and you can
• 47:54
  Speaker 3: find me on Instagram, TikTok. I have a sports media page.
• 47:57
  Speaker 3: If you're trying to learn how to get into sports,
• 47:59
  Speaker 3: it's Hannah all the varos and LinkedIn, LinkedIn. I don't
• 48:03
  Speaker 3: post on LinkedIn. I really need to, but I don't
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  Speaker 3: at some point like if I get overwhelmed, then that's
• 48:09
  Speaker 3: like it and LinkedIn overwhelms me. So I'm on LinkedIn.
• 48:14
  Speaker 3: You can look me up. But my last post, I
• 48:16
  Speaker 3: think is from last year with the Browns.
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  Speaker 1: So great, Thank you so much, thank you for having me.
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  Speaker 2: This was really fun