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- 0:05Speaker 1: This is What The Flux Unpacked, where we go deeper
- 0:08Speaker 1: into one of the juiciest business stories of the week.
- 0:11Speaker 1: I'm Brett.
- 0:12Speaker 2: And I'm Larissa, and today we're unpacking Lush Cosmetics, the
- 0:15Speaker 2: bath bomb maker who's cutting ties with Australia's largest shopping landlord.
- 0:20Speaker 2: But first, here are the three top stories for Friday
- 0:22Speaker 2: the 16th of October. For our first story, more Aussie
- 0:26Speaker 2: adults are investing than ever before, with around 2.5 million
- 0:30Speaker 2: people getting into the investing game since 2020, according to
- 0:33Speaker 2: a new ASX survey. For our second story, the ACCC
- 0:36Speaker 2: has launched an investigation into alleged cartel conduct among some
- 0:41Speaker 2: of Australia's largest egg producers, claiming 12 egg companies have
- 0:45Speaker 2: been coordinating on business decisions since 2020. For our third story,
- 0:50Speaker 2: Netflix is cutting around 6% of its staff or 1,000
- 0:54Speaker 2: jobs around the world after struggling to boost subscriber engagement
- 0:58Speaker 2: on the streaming platform. Brett, when was the last time
- 1:01Speaker 2: you purchased a bath bomb?
- 1:03Speaker 1: A bath bomb? I think more than 25 years ago.
- 1:07Speaker 2: 25 years ago?
- 1:08Speaker 1: Honestly, never think about bath bombs.
- 1:09Speaker 2: It's one of those things I always used to get
- 1:12Speaker 2: in my stocking at Christmas time. Chances are, if you
- 1:15Speaker 2: were gifted a bath bomb, it probably came from a
- 1:18Speaker 2: company called Lush Cosmetics.
- 1:20Speaker 1: Have you heard of them? So I've heard of them.
- 1:21Speaker 1: but I actually don't know what they do.
- 1:23Speaker 2: Okay, so they're a cosmetics brand that's pretty well known
- 1:26Speaker 2: for having quirky soap products. I remember going into the
- 1:29Speaker 2: mall when I was in high school and they'd always
- 1:31Speaker 2: have weird things out on display. I always used to
- 1:34Speaker 2: go back after school to get this toothpaste, but it
- 1:37Speaker 2: was just a strip that you'd put on your teeth
- 1:39Speaker 2: and it would fizz up in your mouth and be
- 1:41Speaker 2: like chocolate flavoured or something strange.
- 1:44Speaker 1: So I assume Lush has been in the headlines this week,
- 1:46Speaker 1: is that right? Yes, they have.
- 1:47Speaker 2: Lush Cosmetics is pulling all of its stores out of
- 1:50Speaker 2: Westfield shopping centres across Australia.
- 1:53Speaker 1: Okay, so as someone who, like me, I have heard
- 1:56Speaker 1: of them, but I haven't really been able to recall
- 1:58Speaker 1: exactly what they do. Give me a quick rundown on Lush.
- 2:01Speaker 2: Okay, so Lush is a British cosmetics company whose founder
- 2:04Speaker 2: actually invented the bath bomb back in 1989. Lush now
- 2:09Speaker 2: has 870 stores around the world and they're pretty big
- 2:13Speaker 2: in Australia too.
- 2:14Speaker 1: How big we talking?
- 2:14Speaker 2: They opened their first store in Australia back in 1997
- 2:18Speaker 2: and now they currently operate 25 stores around the country.
- 2:22Speaker 1: I can see that Lush actually says on its website
- 2:24Speaker 1: that Lush is like a campaigning organisation fronted by a
- 2:28Speaker 1: soap shop. Any idea what they mean by that?
- 2:30Speaker 2: So basically they mean they're more than just the products
- 2:34Speaker 2: that they sell. I trawled their website. They have an
- 2:37Speaker 2: in real life campaigning track record that goes all the
- 2:39Speaker 2: way back to 2006.
- 2:41Speaker 1: Interesting. So what did they do back then?
- 2:43Speaker 2: Their first campaign started when they dumped two tons of
- 2:46Speaker 2: manure outside the European Parliament. protest animal testing rules. In 2008,
- 2:52Speaker 2: they hung a staff member from hooks in a shop
- 2:55Speaker 2: window against shark finning. In 2012, they put a woman
- 2:58Speaker 2: in their London shop window to be experimented on in
- 3:02Speaker 2: front of shoppers to make a statement against animal testing.
- 3:05Speaker 1: And what did they do in 2021? I remember something
- 3:07Speaker 1: may have happened.
- 3:08Speaker 2: Around In 2021, Lush took the brand off Instagram, Facebook,
- 3:13Speaker 2: TikTok and Snapchat. And that was because they were citing
- 3:16Speaker 2: social media's harmful impact on young people's mental health.
- 3:19Speaker 1: And more recently?
- 3:20Speaker 2: Just last year in October 2025, here in Australia, Lush
- 3:24Speaker 2: shut doors, shut its website and shut its Sydney factory
- 3:27Speaker 2: for a whole day in protest over conflict in the
- 3:30Speaker 2: Middle East. And get this, some Westfield centres covered up
- 3:33Speaker 2: some of those protest signs that they put up in
- 3:35Speaker 2: their Westfield stores.
- 3:36Speaker 1: That's actually very interesting. So now I've got a sense
- 3:38Speaker 1: of what Lush has done in the past and who
- 3:41Speaker 1: the brand is. Now, if we fast forward a year,
- 3:43Speaker 1: why is Lush in the news again right now?
- 3:46Speaker 2: Well, this time not for hanging anyone in their window.
- 3:49Speaker 2: But this week, Lush announced it won't renew its 10
- 3:52Speaker 2: leases with Westfield. So over the next three years, it'll
- 3:55Speaker 2: be closing stores around big hubs in Sydney, Melbourne, Brisbane
- 3:59Speaker 2: and Perth. Its standalone high street stores won't be going
- 4:02Speaker 2: anywhere and its shops and regional shopping centres will stay put.
- 4:05Speaker 2: And customers can still buy products online and through the app.
- 4:08Speaker 1: Interesting. Has this got anything to do with the sign
- 4:12Speaker 1: saga last year?
- 4:13Speaker 2: Well, Lush hasn't said anything about this being connected, but
- 4:17Speaker 2: what they have said is they're focusing on serving local
- 4:20Speaker 2: communities in the right locations. And they told Nine News,
- 4:23Speaker 2: Lush is at its best when it reflects not just
- 4:26Speaker 2: the skin and hair care needs of local communities, but
- 4:29Speaker 2: amplifies community values and aspirations.
- 4:32Speaker 1: Very interesting. So take what you want from that. What
- 4:34Speaker 1: would you say is the key learning here with Lush?
- 4:37Speaker 2: Well, if your shop is your ad, you want to
- 4:39Speaker 2: be able to control the billboard. Lush has built its
- 4:43Speaker 2: entire personality on taking an ethical stand on these big
- 4:47Speaker 2: issues like animal rights, sustainability, human rights.
- 4:50Speaker 1: It does sound like physical stores are a huge part
- 4:52Speaker 1: of that. Massive.
- 4:54Speaker 2: Lush isn't actually on the big social media platforms like
- 4:57Speaker 2: we said earlier, and it's been phasing out its Google
- 4:59Speaker 2: paid ads entirely this year.
- 5:02Speaker 1: So if Lush is taking an offline approach, why would
- 5:05Speaker 1: they start ditching their in-person physical locations as well?
- 5:08Speaker 2: Lush isn't removing in-person stores, it's moving them to places
- 5:13Speaker 2: that they can control. Renting in a big shopping centre
- 5:16Speaker 2: for a company is a bit like renting a billboard
- 5:18Speaker 2: on the busiest highway, where you get lots of eyeballs,
- 5:21Speaker 2: but the landlord sets the rules. Centre, which owns Westfield,
- 5:25Speaker 2: reported in 2024 that roughly 17 cents of every dollar
- 5:29Speaker 2: goes on rents and costs. But that means there are
- 5:32Speaker 2: rules too. Landlords set the trading hours, the fit-outs, the
- 5:34Speaker 2: marketing levies.
- 5:36Speaker 1: And they can cover up signs that they don't like
- 5:37Speaker 1: as well.
- 5:38Speaker 2: Yeah. On the high street, there is less foot traffic,
- 5:40Speaker 2: but you control your shop, your hours and your window.
- 5:43Speaker 1: So Lush is taking the high road on the high street.
- 5:45Speaker 2: Yeah. And with 87% of Aussies saying they're more likely
- 5:48Speaker 2: to buy ethical products, it might work in their favor
- 5:51Speaker 2: to have more control over their stores.
- 5:53Speaker 1: So essentially, Lush is banking on what they call an
- 5:55Speaker 1: ethical strategy, integral to their identity. It will be interesting
- 5:59Speaker 1: to see if this is a move that customers really
- 6:01Speaker 1: get behind or if pulling out of some of the
- 6:03Speaker 1: biggest shopping centres in Australia means that Lush is out
- 6:06Speaker 1: of sight, out of mind.
- 6:07Speaker 2: Yeah. Will it impact your bath bomb buying habits?
- 6:10Speaker 1: Maybe I need to get back into the bath bombs.
- 6:12Speaker 2: Flux fam, thanks for listening to our first episode of
- 6:14Speaker 2: What The Flux Unpacked. We'll be back in your ears
- 6:17Speaker 2: on Wednesday with the business news you need to know.
- 6:19Speaker 1: Have a wonderful weekend and see you on Wednesday.