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Pirates of the Caribbean with Ashley Brooke Roberts · The Bechdel Cast

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Speaker 1: On the dol Cast, the questions asked if movies have
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Speaker 1: women in um, are all their discussions just boyfriends and husbands,
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Speaker 1: or do they have individualism the patriarchy ze and best
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Speaker 1: start changing it with the beck dol Cast. Hi, welcome
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Speaker 1: to the Backdel Cast. My name is Jamie, my name
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Speaker 1: is Caitlin. This is the Betel Cast. It is our
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Speaker 1: podcast where we talk about the role of women in movies.
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Speaker 1: That was so fast and good, Thank you so much. Yeah.
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Speaker 1: It's inspired by the Bechdel Test from you know, I don't,
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Speaker 1: I know say it. I want to see. Now you
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Speaker 1: complimented me on something and now I just like want
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Speaker 1: it to shine your soaring and I don't want to
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Speaker 1: let you down. Okay, So the Bechtel test is a
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Speaker 1: test for movies where there need to be at least
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Speaker 1: two female characters talking to each other about something other
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Speaker 1: than a man, preferably they have names. That's the Bechdel test.
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Speaker 1: Most movies do not pass it, or just barely pass it,
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Speaker 1: just barely, just barely. But we're talking about all kinds
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Speaker 1: of movies here, good ones, bad ones, ones, past test ones. Don't.
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Speaker 1: We don't discriminate even where we should. Yeah, Oh, so
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Speaker 1: you just said right before the cast started, you said
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Speaker 1: no more tears on it. Yeah, And so sometimes I'll
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Speaker 1: no more tears. Also be saying no more cob webs
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Speaker 1: reminded you of how I don't have any more tears
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Speaker 1: a while since we've recorded. We had a Way. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: we were away and now we're We were at the
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Speaker 1: Women in Comedy Festival. Sure it was fine. Should we
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Speaker 1: introduce our guests? Hey, we sure should. Our guest today
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Speaker 1: is a comedian. She writes for National Geographic Explorer, and
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Speaker 1: she hosts the Fresh Out Show at UCB East in
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Speaker 1: New York. City, Ashley Brooke, Robert, Hello, Hi, Hi, Hi,
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Speaker 1: thank you for coming. Oh my god, thank you for
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Speaker 1: having me. We're excited to have you. I'm pretty popped. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: this is going to be a fun one. I can
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Speaker 1: feel it. We're talking about Pirates of the Caribbean, the
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Speaker 1: Curse of the Black Pearl. It's so good. So the score,
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Speaker 1: the score is good, the movie, the outfits. Well, it's
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Speaker 1: a good balance of things I love and things I
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Speaker 1: love to hate. That's Pirates of the Caribbean for me.
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Speaker 1: I discovered a whole new thing I hated by watching
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Speaker 1: Pirates of the Caribbean this time, but like a fun one.
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Speaker 1: What is it? Orlando Blum and his work I hate
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Speaker 1: having He's so bad. He did it a good impersonation
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Speaker 1: of Johnny Depth though, when he was like me, why
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Speaker 1: is he all like movable? And I was like, oh,
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Speaker 1: you can be fun like you at your moment in
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Speaker 1: this three hour when you're on screen for a full hour. Man,
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Speaker 1: he stinks I could beat him up. Yeah, a giant see,
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Speaker 1: I could fix him. How do you know? I'm sorry
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Speaker 1: if I was supposed to say, I've just seen, you know,
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Speaker 1: uncensored pictures on the Internet. When he has been naked
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Speaker 1: with Katy Perry, which is definitely ethically wrong. Why has
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Speaker 1: he been naked with Katy Perry? Go to nude beaches
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Speaker 1: a lot and people take pictures of them. They're not anymore,
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Speaker 1: but they did for like a good two years. It's
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Speaker 1: one of my favorite phrases. This is a hogs out
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Speaker 1: kind of beach. Yeah, hogs out, hogs out. That's a
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Speaker 1: fun thing to yell in a sexual context. You know,
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Speaker 1: you reach a certain point you're like, okay, hogs out.
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Speaker 1: That's how I do floor play? Did I do four
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Speaker 1: and four play? So? Um, Ashley, when did you first
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Speaker 1: see this movie today? Yeah? Well okay, so when you
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Speaker 1: emailed me about it, I was like, this is very
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Speaker 1: is this coming into my life in a big way,
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Speaker 1: because in October I was stuck on the Pirates of
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Speaker 1: the Caribbean ride for like a good fifteen minutes, and
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Speaker 1: then I just went to New Orleans, which is a
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Speaker 1: pirate town and is what the ride is based off of.
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Speaker 1: And then I was like, I can't wait to see
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Speaker 1: this movie, and so I watched it this morning. I
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Speaker 1: wanted it to be very fresh, you know, So, yeah,
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Speaker 1: being stuck in the Pirates of the Caribbean. I think
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Speaker 1: that that would be fun. But was it? It was great?
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Speaker 1: Which part of it I've been on that um When
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Speaker 1: the women are being sold as why like a big
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Speaker 1: cavernous room, that's the best part in the loudest. Yeah.
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Speaker 1: And there's the women who are just like being sold
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Speaker 1: as winches. I think it's what they're called never sales
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Speaker 1: of women. And they carried it on there like you
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Speaker 1: know what, we gotta sell the women in the movie too, well,
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Speaker 1: women are a commodity. We are basically just to be
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Speaker 1: bought and sold. She is called she is called treasure
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Speaker 1: in the movie as well. Yes, I wrote that down.
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Speaker 1: I saw this movie for the first time in the
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Speaker 1: eater in two thousand and three. How many times I
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Speaker 1: see in the theater? Well about four? And then I
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Speaker 1: bought it on DVD and I watched it a good
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Speaker 1: twenty times after that. I was obsessed with this movie
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Speaker 1: for a while. Not so much anymore. That's interesting because
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Speaker 1: I listened to your episode about the Titanic, and you're
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Speaker 1: obsessed with that too. So you have something with boats
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Speaker 1: and water and like a class division where a woman's
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Speaker 1: in love with a poor man and they can't be together.
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Speaker 1: It's like we noticed so many Titanic parallels because we
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Speaker 1: watched this. Aristotle was there and everything we watched together Aristotle.
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Speaker 1: Aristotle catched it with us. We've never been more excited
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Speaker 1: are he did. There are a bunch of Titanic parallels,
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Speaker 1: namely that like a poor guy named Jack saves a
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Speaker 1: woman on or near a boat then gets sort of
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Speaker 1: arrested because of it because they thought like something un
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Speaker 1: savery was happening. It is like a weird I know
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Speaker 1: that there's no way that they were thinking of that
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Speaker 1: scene from Titanic, but it felt like it because it
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Speaker 1: was like the same scene, except that Jack and Elizabeth
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Speaker 1: weren't in love, and it was like her chowed wig
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Speaker 1: wearing not boyfriend who was like unhand her, which I
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Speaker 1: love that phrase. Another parallel a lot of eyeshadow being
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Speaker 1: worn by both Billy Zane and uh eyeliner eyeliner being
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Speaker 1: more true. They both wear it so well. Billy Zane,
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Speaker 1: what was the story with the eyeliner? Did he insist?
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Speaker 1: Did they insist? I could see it going either way?
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Speaker 1: We'll never know. Miss him rost in Paradise, just getting
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Speaker 1: his life. When did you see the movie for the
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Speaker 1: first time, Jamie. I think I saw it when it
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Speaker 1: came out. Um, yeah, I vaguely remember seeing it at
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Speaker 1: a drive in movie I think in Maine, and yeah,
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Speaker 1: it came out in two thousand three. Yeah, I think
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Speaker 1: I saw it with my cousins and I liked it.
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Speaker 1: I think I was pushed into liking it more by
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Speaker 1: my mom being extremely horny for Johnny Depp. She had
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Speaker 1: We had a lot of stuff around the house, and
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Speaker 1: so it's like, oh, I guess I liked this movie,
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Speaker 1: and then by Hot Topic because they carried all the
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Speaker 1: pirates of the Heavy and stuff, and I wanted to
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Speaker 1: hang out with the goths really bad, and so I
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Speaker 1: tried to assimilate. Even though I don't think I was
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Speaker 1: crazy about the movie, but there were there were a
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Speaker 1: lot of external reasons that I pretended to be very
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Speaker 1: into it. Sure. Yeah, I did own one of those
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Speaker 1: Hot Topic Pirates shirts. Really, I say. I had the
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Speaker 1: beanie and then I had the booty shorts. Back when
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Speaker 1: there were booty shirts with words on the butts Pirates booty.
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Speaker 1: I was like, twelve pairs old, very cool, very cool
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Speaker 1: to be wearing. Yeah, I'm a little embarrassed about how much.
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Speaker 1: I like that, Like I was quoting most of the
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Speaker 1: lines of dialogue as we were watching it together. It's
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Speaker 1: a little she decided the top twenty minutes. It wasn't well.
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Speaker 1: I It's one of those movies where I saw in
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Speaker 1: the theater and I'm like, oh my god, there's guns
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Speaker 1: in action and fighting and boats and and all this
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Speaker 1: cool stuff I love and Johnny Depp is so hot
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Speaker 1: and I really latched onto it. Also is the time
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Speaker 1: where I was obsessed with Lord of the Rings, great crossover.
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Speaker 1: I was very I was very into Orlando Bloom connection
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Speaker 1: as as Lego Lass. He is a lot sexier. Yes, yes,
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Speaker 1: because he looks less like Orlando Bloom and we're like
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Speaker 1: a magical creature. Yeah, so I was. He's not good.
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Speaker 1: He's a terrible actor. I'm a bad actor and I
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Speaker 1: can do a better job than him. So we Oh god,
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Speaker 1: I wish you had Orlando Bloom's part in this movie.
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Speaker 1: Would have been amazing. Well, that's the younger versional you
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Speaker 1: can plaything I could do matter the movie. I'll just
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Speaker 1: do the recap. Recap. First of all, young Elizabeth is
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Speaker 1: very horny for Pirates. She's like, I love pirates, let's
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Speaker 1: go to let's go to the Caribbean where there's pirates
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Speaker 1: at vampires when I was age Yeah, and she just
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Speaker 1: has access to pirates. If I had access to vampires
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Speaker 1: when I was at that age, I would have joined. Sure. Yeah.
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Speaker 1: So she's like, I love pirates. Cool. She meets a
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Speaker 1: young Will uh, and then she sees this like scary boat.
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Speaker 1: It's maybe a pirate boat, we don't know. Years past,
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Speaker 1: Will Turners, now a blacksmith Johnny Depp comes to town
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Speaker 1: trying to commandeer some ships. He gets caught and then
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Speaker 1: there's a fight between him and Will Turner. Oh, by
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Speaker 1: the way, Will Turner's very horny. For Elizabeth Swan, it's
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Speaker 1: a horny movie. It's a very horny One of our
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Speaker 1: favorite phrases came up during it. We were time at
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Speaker 1: how perhaps this movie has quite a bit of horny depth.
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Speaker 1: You may remember from the Gli episode that we just
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Speaker 1: so much crossover between the episode and people are very
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Speaker 1: horny in this movie because they are trying to capture
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Speaker 1: Captain Jack Sparrow and he's like, I'm the best pirate
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Speaker 1: around and they're like, no, you're not, You're the worst pirate.
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Speaker 1: And then he does some stuff to prove that he
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Speaker 1: is indeed the best pirate around. Some pirates come, other
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Speaker 1: pirates led by Captain Barboza. Because Elizabeth has this pirate
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Speaker 1: medallion that she's stole from Will Turner. It rests just
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Speaker 1: so upon her butts it falls so that we can
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Speaker 1: we may have as the audience many shots of Kara
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Speaker 1: Knightley's but it's like but also we're looking at you know,
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Speaker 1: Chekov's gun, but we're like antities, very tasteful. Like the
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Speaker 1: pirates come searching for this pirate medallion because she falls
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Speaker 1: in the water, and you know, whenever a pirate mendallion
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Speaker 1: falls in the water, it sends out this message to
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Speaker 1: all the pirates to come and get it. It was
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Speaker 1: like a boom. Yeah, it was a weird like shockwave.
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Speaker 1: Another Titanic connection though jewelry in the water right, I
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Speaker 1: was like there it is. So the pirates come and
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Speaker 1: Captain Barboza is like, give us that trinket and she's
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Speaker 1: like no, And then they capture her because there's this
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Speaker 1: whole curse where they think they need her blood to
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Speaker 1: lift the curse because they stole all these coins from
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Speaker 1: this treasure chest, just like Titanic again, the treasure, the blood.
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Speaker 1: You need her blood. So they take her and then
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Speaker 1: Will is like, wait, that's my girlfriend who I want
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Speaker 1: to fuck, so he goes after her. He gets captured
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Speaker 1: Jack Sperry. He's like, come on, we got a mission.
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Speaker 1: So they go after her, and then a lot of
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Speaker 1: nonsense happens. It's a very complicated story, much more complicated
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Speaker 1: than it needs to because the second act I couldn't
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Speaker 1: make cancer tales like you just you're just like, oh,
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Speaker 1: this is happening now, like the point where it's like, oh, skeletons,
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Speaker 1: I guess skeletons, and then and you know, if the
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Speaker 1: skeleton part plays out, and then the skeleton part's over
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Speaker 1: and you're like, well, okay, that was nice. It's about
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Speaker 1: forty minutes too long. It's extreme. It's a two hour movie. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: launched it one in three quarters times too, because we pretended.
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Speaker 1: Fun fact, we pretended we weren't almost done with the movie.
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Speaker 1: When Aristotle texted us back. We just started. Because right anyways,
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Speaker 1: they're trying to get this medallion. They get it, they
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Speaker 1: lose it again, exchange hands a bunch of different times.
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Speaker 1: We don't really know whose side Jack sparrows on. Sometimes
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Speaker 1: he's like bartering with the bad pirates, sometimes he's bartering
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Speaker 1: with the good British guys. Who knows. And then finally
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Speaker 1: they were able to like get the right person's blood.
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Speaker 1: Turns out it's Will Turner's blood because his dad was
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Speaker 1: a pirate, even though he does not want that to
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Speaker 1: be true, but he accepts his fate in his destiny.
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Speaker 1: And then they can call what Orlando Bloom does with
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Speaker 1: his face and body, and he the dialogue is delivered right,
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Speaker 1: so they restore the fucking coin to the thing and
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Speaker 1: then everyone's good and then the curses lifted and the
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Speaker 1: pirate some of them die, and then there's like twenty
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Speaker 1: more minutes of the movie, but that's longer than and
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Speaker 1: Jelie is the world's longest. So this was like this
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Speaker 1: came out two three, so like a O L. Chat
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Speaker 1: boards are at their peak around this time, and so
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Speaker 1: I was like tenor leven and I would troll around
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Speaker 1: on the chat boards and ask people to join bands
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Speaker 1: with me and tell them I was a seventeen year
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Speaker 1: old boy. Whatever. Anyways, one time met someone on one
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Speaker 1: of the chat boards and we started I am about
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Speaker 1: starting at the end together and then somewhere else I
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Speaker 1: found a gift of Johnny Depp in Orlando Bloom kissing
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Speaker 1: on the side of Pirate of the Caribbean. Accidentally hyper
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Speaker 1: linked it into the conversation with the stranger, and then
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Speaker 1: he blocked me, which is like the well that I mean,
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Speaker 1: is the better way for that to go. Wait was
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Speaker 1: it a real photo of them kissing or with a
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Speaker 1: photoshopped I can't tell. I assumed it was photoshopped at
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Speaker 1: the time. I'm looking for the gift now, but I'm
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Speaker 1: just turning up a lot of fan art. Yeah, we
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Speaker 1: don't know. We don't. Also, I don't find Orlando Bloom
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Speaker 1: to be a sexual being. I used to, but now,
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Speaker 1: even if he has a huge hog, I'm not attracted
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Speaker 1: to either one of them. I get Johnny Depp, I
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Speaker 1: don't know. I get young Johnny Depp, but like, yeah,
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Speaker 1: well he also had all those horrible things where you know, yes,
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Speaker 1: we should say that his personal life is him incredibly unattractive. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure we're all turned off of him with
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Speaker 1: good reason. Did you see that thing recently where his
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Speaker 1: like management company is countersuing him and part of the
14:42
Speaker 1: lawsuit is that he spent all of this money on
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Speaker 1: a sound engineer who feeds him lines through an earpiece.
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Speaker 1: So he doesn't like memorize lines. He's just shooting. He
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Speaker 1: gets his lines in an earpiece and says them. So
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Speaker 1: I was like watching him on this movie being like
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Speaker 1: can I tell? And I couldn't tell. Yeah, So that
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Speaker 1: just amount that's some hot Johnny Goss. So wow, the
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Speaker 1: latest on Johnny. He sucks even more than we already
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Speaker 1: knew he sucks. And geeze, that sucks. Yeah. There was
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Speaker 1: a period of like five years where I was very
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Speaker 1: into Johnny Depp and I watched all these movies and
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Speaker 1: I was like, oh my god, Edwood, what a great movie.
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Speaker 1: Donnan DeMarco, Edward Scissor Hands, edwardsis Hands, all kinds of stuff.
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Speaker 1: Enny in June, Man in June is so great. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: a lot chuck, a lot out from Molina, from Elina,
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Speaker 1: my boy. All right, well let's let's jump in, let's talk. Yeah, yeah, yeah, Okay.
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Speaker 1: The first thing I noticed, actually, oh, this is something
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Speaker 1: Aristottle pointed out to us, so thank you for your contributions.
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Speaker 1: It didn't really occur to me until he mentioned it,
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Speaker 1: But in the opening scene where you see a young Elizabeth,
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Speaker 1: she is maybe eleven or twelve something like that. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: and you see Captain Norrington, her future betrothed wigs, well
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Speaker 1: they're wearing, but he's also like presumably years old, so
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Speaker 1: like he's much older. It was it's kind of gross,
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Speaker 1: I mean for the era, like, yeah, forty year old
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Speaker 1: men would marry like fifteen year old girls historically accurate,
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Speaker 1: which man, imagine having to put yourself in that mindset,
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Speaker 1: like let's hope this one grows up hot and I'll
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Speaker 1: just hang out like I don't get it. But anyways,
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Speaker 1: I thought you're saying that from the girl's point of view,
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Speaker 1: like I hope he dies. Oh no, from the girl's
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Speaker 1: point of view, let's hope he dies before I'm of age,
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Speaker 1: so that I don't need to marry this wig. Gross
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Speaker 1: such wig culture in so many wigs, so many wigs.
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Speaker 1: So that was kind of a like a thing. And
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Speaker 1: then a point Aristotle, Yes, thank you, the fact that
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Speaker 1: he is a man. We overcame that shortcoming to deliver
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Speaker 1: a great point. Another great point, if I do say
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Speaker 1: so myself, is that because this is a Disney movie,
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Speaker 1: Elizabeth Swan has a dead Mommy, true, we don't meet.
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Speaker 1: In fact, we meet like three female characters all together.
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Speaker 1: There's Elizabeth Swan, There's Anna Maria played by Zoey Soldonna.
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Speaker 1: She's like the Lady Pirate, the one Lady Pirate, the Horrors,
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Speaker 1: a couple of prostitutes slapped Johnny Depp across the face.
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Speaker 1: One of them is named Giselle. It almost reminds me
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Speaker 1: of like the Three Girls and Beauty and the Beast,
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Speaker 1: just like these are all basically the same character. They're
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Speaker 1: not going to flesh them out at all, and they're
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Speaker 1: all just horny and mad and like that's all you're given, right, Yeah,
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Speaker 1: I mean they each get like one or two words
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Speaker 1: of dialogue, almost make a little slap. Yeah, that's pretty
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Speaker 1: much I mean. And there's a couple of maids and
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Speaker 1: the maids, yeah, and one of them has a few lines,
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Speaker 1: And that's pretty much it. So most of the characters
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Speaker 1: are men. We have Jack Sparrow, Will Turner, Commodore Norrington,
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Speaker 1: Elizabeth's dad who I don't know his name. I just
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Speaker 1: call him Swan Daddy, the Governor Na Governor weather be
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Speaker 1: Swan weather Be. Oh yeah cool it, we get it.
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Speaker 1: They're British. Then there's Gibbs, who is like not a pirate,
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Speaker 1: and then also sometimes a pirate. There's a two like
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Speaker 1: navy guys who provide a lot of the comic relief,
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Speaker 1: and then there's there's like a pirate duo who have
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Speaker 1: more comic relief, and then the dog. There's my new
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Speaker 1: rule for this week, the cute dog rule. There's always
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Speaker 1: a scene in these blockbuster movies where there's a cute dog,
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Speaker 1: and this one it's when you know, Johnny Depp's trying
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Speaker 1: to get the dog to give them the keys and
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Speaker 1: dogs like no, and you're like, ah, that's a cute dog.
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Speaker 1: That's from the ride. Yeah, it ish, that's from the right.
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Speaker 1: There's a lot of like little scenes where I was like, oh,
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Speaker 1: that's part of the ride. That's Another thing that I
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Speaker 1: wanted to to talk about was this, and it has
18:50
Speaker 1: nothing to do with what the podcast is about. However,
18:54
Speaker 1: this was one of the movies in like a string
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Speaker 1: of Disney movies where they were like, let's adapt our
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Speaker 1: roller coasters into rides, like all the rides that are
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Speaker 1: kind of old and no one wants to go. In
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Speaker 1: parts of the Caribbean, is like the only one that
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Speaker 1: really worked out, but The Haunted Mansion was turned into
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Speaker 1: a movie with Ednie Murphy that was not a good one.
19:12
Speaker 1: The Country Bears was turned into horrifying movie that I
19:16
Speaker 1: highly recommend watching, and that movie didn't even save the ride.
19:20
Speaker 1: The ride is gone now because it was also a
19:22
Speaker 1: very scary ride. But like in the early two thousands,
19:25
Speaker 1: for whatever reason, there was some sort of production initiative
19:29
Speaker 1: to be like, let's turn our old like Disneyland roller
19:33
Speaker 1: coasters that have no ground in an existing property, and
19:38
Speaker 1: let's turn it into an existing property and see how
19:40
Speaker 1: it goes. I just want to see that pitch meeting
19:42
Speaker 1: where they're like, it'll be cheaper to make a huge, blockbuster,
19:45
Speaker 1: high budget Hollywood movie the ride, So let's save the
19:50
Speaker 1: ride by doing Yeah, well, I kind of I like
19:52
Speaker 1: that they did that, because you know, Universal does the opposite.
19:55
Speaker 1: They changed the ride to fit the movie, and then
19:57
Speaker 1: it's not the Mummy rat anymore. Now it's the Fast
20:00
Speaker 1: and the Furious Ride, And I liked the Mummy Ride
20:03
Speaker 1: Mommy ride at least in l A. They're going to
20:06
Speaker 1: change it, though, they're changing it to that's supposed to
20:08
Speaker 1: turn into the Fast and the Furious Ride. Trust me,
20:11
Speaker 1: I know, I know roller Coaster Week. Sorry to ever
20:15
Speaker 1: tubt you. Anyways, this is this is the only franchise
20:18
Speaker 1: that thrived in what I hope they called the roller
20:21
Speaker 1: Coaster innihip. But yeah, yeah, there are there are a
20:25
Speaker 1: ton of things that were pulled from the ride, the dog,
20:28
Speaker 1: I mean, most of the Tortuga scenes. It seems like
20:30
Speaker 1: that's just the ride. I've never I've never ridden the ride,
20:33
Speaker 1: so I don't know. I got to ride the rod.
20:37
Speaker 1: You gotta ride it more than water read it. Yeah,
20:39
Speaker 1: I do just love the idea that an entire feature
20:43
Speaker 1: length film was adapted from a theme park ride. From
20:47
Speaker 1: the ride is in there. Yeah, it's exciting. And then
20:50
Speaker 1: they added Johnny Depp to the rude It is because
20:56
Speaker 1: it's one of those newer animatronics that you're like, I
20:59
Speaker 1: get that too real. Yeah, the other ones are so
21:02
Speaker 1: old and like clearly from the sixties. And then there's
21:05
Speaker 1: like a very real version of Johnny death. It's scary.
21:08
Speaker 1: There's also another in Florida. I don't think it's in
21:12
Speaker 1: California yet. There's a they made a snow White in
21:14
Speaker 1: the Seven Dwarfs ride with like very new c g
21:18
Speaker 1: I Animatronics and it's the scariest thing I've ever seen
21:21
Speaker 1: in my life. I was just on it. It's really freaky.
21:24
Speaker 1: It's a really it's a three D face, but it's
21:26
Speaker 1: like they make the face and then they project a
21:28
Speaker 1: digital image on top of it. So it's okay, it's
21:31
Speaker 1: very odd looking. It's not okay anyway, this this podcast,
21:36
Speaker 1: it's about who Knows. So we're looking at a predominantly
21:41
Speaker 1: male driven story because while there is like one main
21:46
Speaker 1: woman in the movie, like the rest of the characters
21:49
Speaker 1: are men. One of the first lines of dialogue that's
21:52
Speaker 1: said in the movie is it's bad luck to have
21:55
Speaker 1: a woman on board, even a miniature one. So right
21:58
Speaker 1: away we get a a great idea of you know
22:01
Speaker 1: how this movie is gonna treat women. I mean, it's
22:05
Speaker 1: like an exercise in tokenism like pretty much throughout, and
22:09
Speaker 1: it's sort of I feel like pulled from more superhero
22:14
Speaker 1: action movie tropes of like, ah, the woman is going
22:17
Speaker 1: to be dragged along, she doesn't know what's going on
22:19
Speaker 1: and like what is this brave new world? And then
22:21
Speaker 1: she'll get to do one cool thing, she'll have her
22:24
Speaker 1: moment and she's like I'm in charge now, but she's
22:27
Speaker 1: not really, and then she kisses someone at the end
22:30
Speaker 1: end of movie. It just god, I hate it. Yeah,
22:34
Speaker 1: that is pretty much the trajectory of the story. Um
22:37
Speaker 1: Can I interject with something that I enjoyed about the movie?
22:40
Speaker 1: And I thought that this was really interesting, which is
22:42
Speaker 1: that they used the costuming and the beginning with her
22:45
Speaker 1: in the corset where she's like I can't move, to
22:47
Speaker 1: like really illustrate her oppression, you know, in the situation
22:50
Speaker 1: that she's in. And then by the end of the
22:51
Speaker 1: movie she's wearing pants. She got put in like she
22:54
Speaker 1: can move now, because you know, whatever sexy on a
22:57
Speaker 1: woman makes her not be able to move, and so
22:58
Speaker 1: by the end she was like I can move and
23:01
Speaker 1: on my own woman. So I thought that I like
23:03
Speaker 1: the way they did that with Yeah, I didn't think
23:05
Speaker 1: of that. I didn't think that the treatment of Elizabeth Swan,
23:10
Speaker 1: which okay, first of all, let me just talk about
23:11
Speaker 1: the last name Swan. For female characters, it keeps happening
23:16
Speaker 1: because we've got Bella Swan, We've got there's a character
23:19
Speaker 1: from Once upon a Time that show on TV. Is
23:24
Speaker 1: it sexist? Is it lazy? I say probably be. Well,
23:29
Speaker 1: it's just like, how will the audience know that this
23:32
Speaker 1: is an attractive and desirable woman unless we give her
23:35
Speaker 1: a name that resembles a sexy bird, which Swans are
23:40
Speaker 1: the sexiest pon Caitlin Sex Patients. Oh man, what a
23:46
Speaker 1: good name. That's my strip her name another another thing
23:49
Speaker 1: that that I mean maybe and this is this is
23:52
Speaker 1: overthinking a little bit. But Elizabeth Swan, she's always very
23:56
Speaker 1: into pirates. Cool, that's her weird hobby. She has a
24:00
Speaker 1: lot about pirates. But by the end she is fighting
24:02
Speaker 1: two on the side of people who we are to
24:06
Speaker 1: believe pillogen rape, and she's like, this is good and
24:10
Speaker 1: she's trying to stop the people who are like, you know,
24:13
Speaker 1: oppressive and bad in their own way, but are also saying, hey,
24:16
Speaker 1: maybe you don't pillage and rape, so why Like it's
24:21
Speaker 1: it's an interesting dynamic. So she's not an especially well
24:24
Speaker 1: developed character. She's you see her in different moments, like
24:28
Speaker 1: being pretty resourceful. Like earlier on in the movie, when
24:31
Speaker 1: the bad pirates come to collect the medallion that she has,
24:34
Speaker 1: they go after her and she like hits them with
24:38
Speaker 1: the bed warmer slash. I'm pretty sure it's a waffle iron,
24:44
Speaker 1: she like opens it up in the hot coals go down,
24:46
Speaker 1: and then she runs into another room and she sees
24:49
Speaker 1: like swords above the mantle, and so she tries to
24:51
Speaker 1: grab one out and she realizes it's just like a
24:53
Speaker 1: decorative thing. And then whenever they do catch her, she
24:56
Speaker 1: invokes the right of parlay. So she's like, I know
24:58
Speaker 1: all about pirates. I my obsession with pirates is going
25:01
Speaker 1: to actually serve me in this instance, and that's what
25:03
Speaker 1: allows her to be like taken on to the ship.
25:05
Speaker 1: And then she gets captured. But she's a bit she's
25:08
Speaker 1: like resourceful and she can kind of hold her own
25:12
Speaker 1: in certain scenes. But then there's a bunch of other
25:14
Speaker 1: scenes where she faints and then falls into the water
25:17
Speaker 1: and has to be saved, and then her dress gets
25:20
Speaker 1: taken off, and then she has to be saved again
25:24
Speaker 1: when they're on the Eli de Morta and they're about
25:27
Speaker 1: to like cut her up and spill her blood everywhere.
25:30
Speaker 1: Let's play a game. I'm gonna say a thing, and
25:32
Speaker 1: then you guess how many times this happens in the movie,
25:35
Speaker 1: all right, So the number of times the Elizabeth Wan's
25:38
Speaker 1: dress has to be removed. I'm gonna say three times,
25:43
Speaker 1: I'll go for Oh, it's only it's only two. But
25:46
Speaker 1: the fact that it happens in all is like no
25:49
Speaker 1: one whenever Giant Up takes it off underwater, and then
25:52
Speaker 1: whenever Captain Barbosa he gives her a dress to be like,
25:56
Speaker 1: wear this and dine with me, or dine with the
25:58
Speaker 1: crew and be naked like okay um. And then as
26:02
Speaker 1: he's like sending her off, what should I do? So
26:08
Speaker 1: as he's like sending her off the plank to maroon
26:12
Speaker 1: her on an island, he is like, give me that
26:15
Speaker 1: dress back, So she has to take off her dress.
26:18
Speaker 1: So that happens twice. So the number of times where
26:20
Speaker 1: she has to be saved by a man six, it's
26:27
Speaker 1: only two. Really, at least that I caught me. I
26:30
Speaker 1: mean I started she's doing than I thought. I might
26:35
Speaker 1: have missed some Like I started telling this kind of
26:37
Speaker 1: like halfway through the movie, so I might have there
26:39
Speaker 1: might be things where I missed um. But yeah, it's
26:41
Speaker 1: the time when um, Captain Sparrow has to save her
26:44
Speaker 1: when she falls into the water because women be fainting?
26:48
Speaker 1: You know? Was the second time was a fake faint? Right?
26:51
Speaker 1: The second time was a fake faint, but she doesn't
26:53
Speaker 1: get saved. Then that was like her, that was her resourcefulness.
26:57
Speaker 1: This is all the power. That is literally all I
27:01
Speaker 1: can do. You will believe that I faint because women,
27:07
Speaker 1: and that what it buys her like a split second
27:10
Speaker 1: of time. I don't know why that happens exactly, It's
27:12
Speaker 1: very stupid. No. But the second time is when she
27:15
Speaker 1: is in the cave on the Ela de Morta and
27:19
Speaker 1: will turn her like swims up and has to rescue
27:21
Speaker 1: her before her blood spills. Yeah, okay, number of times
27:27
Speaker 1: she is held captive by a group of men on
27:30
Speaker 1: a boat, let's say too. I'm going to say four.
27:33
Speaker 1: It's first whenever the bad pirates led by Barbosa capture
27:40
Speaker 1: her and like locker in the cabin, and then again
27:43
Speaker 1: much later in the movie whenever Norrington, her potential fiance,
27:47
Speaker 1: is like go in the cabin. You're not allowed to
27:49
Speaker 1: be a part of this adventure. She escapes then, which
27:53
Speaker 1: is kind of cool. She like ties some flags together
27:55
Speaker 1: and she's like, I'm going to take matters into my
27:57
Speaker 1: own hand. Love it. Yeah, she escapes actually then saves
28:01
Speaker 1: the other group of pirates who but they're these ones
28:04
Speaker 1: are the good pirates. These are the ones that like
28:05
Speaker 1: Cotton who has the parrot. I love that parrot and
28:11
Speaker 1: it's a good parrot. And then then there's the monkey
28:13
Speaker 1: and the monkey, and then lots of fun animal companions
28:18
Speaker 1: love it. So she actually saves them because they are
28:21
Speaker 1: in like the little jail cells in the bottom of
28:23
Speaker 1: the boat, so she rescues them. So that was, like,
28:26
Speaker 1: I guess, a coold thing to see. But let's move
28:28
Speaker 1: on to the number of times that she is struck
28:31
Speaker 1: across the face. Oh my god, I'm gonna say three
28:34
Speaker 1: for that one. I'm gonna say too, I only kind
28:37
Speaker 1: of two. Geez, what is it two? I don't know.
28:41
Speaker 1: They forgot about the role of threes and storytelling. The
28:46
Speaker 1: roll toos baby um once whenever she first boards the
28:50
Speaker 1: Black Pearl and the I think like the first mate
28:53
Speaker 1: or some guy slaps across the face and then he's like,
28:56
Speaker 1: you'll speak when spoken to, and she's like, I learned
28:59
Speaker 1: my last and right as one does. Uh. And then
29:04
Speaker 1: Barboza hits her across the face after he discovers that
29:08
Speaker 1: Will Turner Senior is not her father, so he's like,
29:11
Speaker 1: you tricked me, and then he slaps across the face
29:15
Speaker 1: and then she tumbles down a hill and finally the
29:18
Speaker 1: number of times a gun is pointed at her, Oh
29:21
Speaker 1: my goodness, four, it's three. Then I counted, uh, which
29:29
Speaker 1: we could have missed some. One of them is when
29:32
Speaker 1: she and Sparrow are marooned on the island and he's like,
29:36
Speaker 1: first split second contemplates murdering her, so he pulls off
29:39
Speaker 1: the gun and like points it at her head. There's
29:42
Speaker 1: one where Anna Maria is like, these pirates are after us.
29:46
Speaker 1: We gotta give her up and then they won't be
29:49
Speaker 1: after us anymore. Sounds, so she points a gun at
29:52
Speaker 1: her head. Oh crap, I forget what The third one is?
29:54
Speaker 1: Is it in the beginning when Johnny Depp has taken
29:56
Speaker 1: her hostage because he's like in the first fift in minutes,
30:00
Speaker 1: so yeah, he rescues her and then immediately uses her.
30:03
Speaker 1: Is like Lee Bridge that ward keeps coming up in
30:07
Speaker 1: this movie to uh, what you say it again? That
30:10
Speaker 1: way the fridge there wasn't smitten at the first time
30:16
Speaker 1: when you're talking about God. Sorry, I'm triggered. So a
30:22
Speaker 1: lot of things happened to Elizabeth Swan that aren't ideal
30:27
Speaker 1: to be fair. A lot of guns are pointed, and
30:29
Speaker 1: a lot of the male characters a lot of a
30:31
Speaker 1: lot of them are punched, like a lot of there's
30:33
Speaker 1: a lot. It's an action movie. There's a lot of violence.
30:35
Speaker 1: But it was just a little upsetting to see so
30:39
Speaker 1: much violence. I think, I think if we're if we're saying,
30:43
Speaker 1: you know, the amount of times a gun is pointed
30:46
Speaker 1: at you versus in it like a big moment, versus
30:48
Speaker 1: the amount of times you get to point a gun
30:50
Speaker 1: in a big moment. She's kind of I mean, she
30:53
Speaker 1: does get to have her moments, but it's not she
30:56
Speaker 1: was actually pretty good at fighting at the in there.
30:59
Speaker 1: She could she handled a sword almost to the point
31:02
Speaker 1: where I was like, where'd you Yeah, yeah, maybe she
31:05
Speaker 1: went to boarding school and took fencing as an elective.
31:09
Speaker 1: It's very British. And then she has that big moment
31:13
Speaker 1: at the end where someone mentions pain. One of the
31:17
Speaker 1: bad pirates is like, you all know the meaning of pain,
31:20
Speaker 1: and then she goes like pain, try wearing a and
31:25
Speaker 1: then that point hits him with it, saying that was
31:28
Speaker 1: that was that one didn't hit for me too much,
31:31
Speaker 1: And I'm like, you say, a girl exactly. It's like
31:34
Speaker 1: that's the kind of like feminist line that your dad
31:38
Speaker 1: could write. Right. I was just you want to know
31:40
Speaker 1: about pain? Right? I bet like the writers of the
31:43
Speaker 1: movie were like, oh, let's have her say to stand.
31:45
Speaker 1: Then they were jerking off and jerking off, and it
31:49
Speaker 1: all comes full circle. It comes for full circle, guys.
31:52
Speaker 1: It works for women, and it works from a narrative standpoint.
31:56
Speaker 1: And then they come in a in the center like
32:01
Speaker 1: they're all upwards trajectory, and then he goes and everyone
32:05
Speaker 1: gets splashed. This is my fantast The point I'm trying
32:09
Speaker 1: to make is that like there's a lot of violence
32:11
Speaker 1: directed at her. She has some agency at some points
32:16
Speaker 1: in the story, but a lot of the time she's
32:19
Speaker 1: having to be saved. She's kind of being dragged around,
32:23
Speaker 1: used as bait. She's a bit of an ungenue in
32:26
Speaker 1: the way that a lot of I mean, I don't know.
32:29
Speaker 1: And there's again there's like a pretty there's always a
32:33
Speaker 1: missed opportunity for like, let's just give her another substantial
32:37
Speaker 1: female character to talk to, because it's not even like
32:40
Speaker 1: her character and the way she's treated have a lot
32:44
Speaker 1: of problems but that but like the thing always is,
32:46
Speaker 1: it's just like there's no one for her to talk
32:48
Speaker 1: to who isn't a man in this story, shocking, A
32:51
Speaker 1: few women shocking, And it's yeah, like she and Zoe
32:56
Speaker 1: Seldona could have a very sexy conversation about anything, you know,
33:03
Speaker 1: but there's no narrative investment in making that happen, and
33:07
Speaker 1: no narrative investment in making is always held down as
33:09
Speaker 1: character important enough to make her worth talking to. Yeah,
33:13
Speaker 1: there is a moment where I'm like, Okay, I guess
33:15
Speaker 1: that's cool, where I think she's like the first mate
33:18
Speaker 1: so that whenever Sparrow they think he's been killed, I
33:21
Speaker 1: think she becomes the captain of the black So like, hey,
33:25
Speaker 1: a woman in a leadership role. That's cool. But again, like,
33:28
Speaker 1: but we know almost nothing about her character. There's a
33:31
Speaker 1: lot of a lot to be said for high functioning
33:34
Speaker 1: alcoholics in this movie too. Yeah, man, Jack Sparrow, he's
33:39
Speaker 1: the high functioning alcoholic. It's almost presented to us as like,
33:43
Speaker 1: why would anyone ask Jack Sparrow why he's good at
33:46
Speaker 1: his job? He's Jack Sparrow, And it's like, well, he's
33:49
Speaker 1: never not drunk, but he is good at his job,
33:52
Speaker 1: which is like, oh, let's just all be alcoholics where
33:54
Speaker 1: probably all like that. That's my philosophy. Anyways, the drunkest
33:59
Speaker 1: man is in charge New testament. Oh, I thought of
34:02
Speaker 1: another thing that you can look out for in a
34:05
Speaker 1: movie where when a male character is complimenting a female character,
34:10
Speaker 1: does he compliment her about anything besides horror appearance? Horror.
34:17
Speaker 1: I'm having a really hard time saying words today. I
34:21
Speaker 1: don't know floor play what it is for horror parents.
34:28
Speaker 1: You gotta have horror parents on point before you can
34:30
Speaker 1: engage in a four play. What I meant to say is,
34:37
Speaker 1: does he compliment a woman on anything besides her appearance?
34:44
Speaker 1: I overcompense that time as far as I could tell.
34:48
Speaker 1: In this movie, whenever Norrington is trying to propose to
34:52
Speaker 1: Elizabeth Swan, he's like, you're a beautiful woman, You've turned
34:57
Speaker 1: into a fine woman. You're so hot, marry me. Yes.
35:01
Speaker 1: But then it's sorry to bring back to Titanic, But
35:05
Speaker 1: Norrington is the cow Hockley of Pirates of the Caribbean, right,
35:10
Speaker 1: and so we're not supposed to like that. He's it's
35:13
Speaker 1: not like a like a normalized thing of like, oh
35:17
Speaker 1: this is how you talked to Like we're like, oh,
35:19
Speaker 1: he's a bad guy. He doesn't know anything about her,
35:21
Speaker 1: And then like not that wild turners virtually even a
35:25
Speaker 1: character like who knows what is there to love about him?
35:27
Speaker 1: What do we know about him? He's a blacksmith, he's
35:30
Speaker 1: a good one. He wears a good at it. The
35:35
Speaker 1: sword balances perfectly, And I just it's so I can't
35:40
Speaker 1: bridge the idea of like imagine Orlando Bloom accomplishing a
35:44
Speaker 1: task like I can't. There's no way he's good at anything.
35:48
Speaker 1: God have you seen Elizabethtown? No? God, it's bad. Yeah,
35:54
Speaker 1: I skipped that one. Okay, I'm going to his IMDb
35:56
Speaker 1: pitch carry on something. I thought it was interesting at
35:59
Speaker 1: the beginning. So she's like so in Two Pirates and
36:02
Speaker 1: so I sort of I might have given her character
36:04
Speaker 1: more than it is warranted. But I was like, oh,
36:06
Speaker 1: she has like a thirst for adventure, and like she
36:08
Speaker 1: wants to go an adventure and she wants to live
36:10
Speaker 1: this like full life. And then she does get to
36:12
Speaker 1: go on an adventure, which I thought was pretty cool,
36:15
Speaker 1: even though she is like completely submissive to the adventure,
36:18
Speaker 1: like it's not through her own agency that she's really
36:20
Speaker 1: on this adventure. She's sort of taken along, but it
36:23
Speaker 1: wasn't nice. Something happened to this poor rich child, you
36:27
Speaker 1: know where she was. It seemed like she would have
36:28
Speaker 1: just lived a life of seclusion otherwise. So that's true.
36:33
Speaker 1: There's a lot of points in the movie where she
36:34
Speaker 1: could like opt out, but she wants to be there.
36:37
Speaker 1: She wants to be on the journey, even if she
36:40
Speaker 1: constantly has to take her clothes off. Yeah. And I
36:43
Speaker 1: was just in New Orleans and like the whole time
36:44
Speaker 1: I was there, so like the gender ratio in New York,
36:47
Speaker 1: there's just more women than men, which is great. I
36:51
Speaker 1: love it, give me all that female energy. And then
36:53
Speaker 1: I went to New Orleans and I was like, something
36:55
Speaker 1: is wrong, and I realized it was because there's just
36:58
Speaker 1: so many men in New Orleans because like very much
37:00
Speaker 1: a pirate town. And so watching this, I was thinking
37:03
Speaker 1: about like that feeling of just too much testosterone. You know,
37:07
Speaker 1: you're a hard pressed to find a woman in this movie.
37:12
Speaker 1: It's extremely hard. And I guess you know, we're assume
37:16
Speaker 1: there are other women around, but we don't see them
37:20
Speaker 1: in anything but submissive roles, with the exception of Anna Maria,
37:25
Speaker 1: because it's we see prostitutes and we see mates, and
37:29
Speaker 1: those are the two categories of women. Yeah, And the
37:31
Speaker 1: thing I remember the most about Anna Maria is that
37:33
Speaker 1: she got sucked over by Jack Sparrow exactly, and so
37:37
Speaker 1: she's like bitter, you know, and and also a victim. True, true, Yeah.
37:43
Speaker 1: I want to see an entire movie about her. I
37:45
Speaker 1: think that would be a much more interesting. And now
37:49
Speaker 1: it's always saw that she's got that billing power. Yeah, yeah,
37:52
Speaker 1: that would be amazing. That's a great idea. You should
37:54
Speaker 1: sell it to Disney, like, hey, Disney had its original
37:58
Speaker 1: character of all that myself. Um. Yeah. The problem with
38:02
Speaker 1: Elizabeth is that she she's there and then she does
38:06
Speaker 1: kind of do stuff sometimes, like she does save herself
38:11
Speaker 1: by escaping from the boat. She does help the other
38:16
Speaker 1: good pirates escape. She's not a bad character like she's
38:20
Speaker 1: but there's just no one. She gives her hand in
38:23
Speaker 1: marriage so that the guy will go rescue her lover.
38:26
Speaker 1: She falsely gives her hand in marriage, which is again
38:28
Speaker 1: a part of her resourcefulness. I think, where she's just
38:31
Speaker 1: like a line to him and make him think that
38:34
Speaker 1: I love him if it means saving this other man
38:38
Speaker 1: who everyone is horny for everyone. All three of the
38:42
Speaker 1: horny dep it's horny Depp, the horny Depp. Sorry but yeah,
38:48
Speaker 1: I'm Sparrow. Will Turner and Norrington all want to fuck
38:52
Speaker 1: Elizabeth real hard. She's the only woman in the mood
38:56
Speaker 1: exactly because like between I mean, there's one woman pirate,
38:59
Speaker 1: There no women in the military, there's no moms, there's
39:04
Speaker 1: no moms, there's no miles. Yeah, there's there's some prostitutes
39:09
Speaker 1: on Tortuga. A lot of stuff could be diffused by
39:12
Speaker 1: adding some mills into the mix. That's true of any movie. Honestly,
39:15
Speaker 1: it's true. Where are the mills? Yeah, Elizabeth isn't the
39:21
Speaker 1: one ever really driving the story. If her if her
39:25
Speaker 1: actions influence the direction that the story takes, it's only
39:28
Speaker 1: for a very brief moment and it doesn't happen that often.
39:31
Speaker 1: So it's all these male characters who are driving the
39:33
Speaker 1: narrative the entire time, and it's just like, we're over it.
39:38
Speaker 1: Let a lady do something, God damn it. Yeah, you're
39:41
Speaker 1: between a rack and a hard place for this one,
39:43
Speaker 1: because you want there to be women doing more things,
39:46
Speaker 1: but there's not enough women to get much done. What
39:50
Speaker 1: was that movie that just mad Max Fury Road? You
39:53
Speaker 1: go into you find like the pirate women right at
39:56
Speaker 1: the end, the women of they could have have had
39:59
Speaker 1: they could have had a ship women. I liked those women.
40:02
Speaker 1: They were the only part of the movie. I like
40:05
Speaker 1: we did an episode about it because they were the
40:07
Speaker 1: pirate women. And then there were the Victoria's Secret. Yeah,
40:11
Speaker 1: the hot Mommy. Yeah boy, I'm I'm like flashing back
40:15
Speaker 1: to arguing about that movie. Yeah, I'm sorry that you're triggered.
40:18
Speaker 1: I'm fine. Yeah, why aren't there a ship of lady pirates?
40:23
Speaker 1: I'm sure that would have been a killer scene. Yeah.
40:26
Speaker 1: I meant to research this. I think there was like
40:28
Speaker 1: a famous female pirate who was like, let's see her,
40:33
Speaker 1: let's make a movie about her. I believe it immediately. Yeah,
40:36
Speaker 1: without reservation. I'm not even going to google it if
40:39
Speaker 1: it's not of PARI existed. Yes, sorry for bringing up down.
40:46
Speaker 1: I just don't know if I know that, I didn't
40:49
Speaker 1: need that. She's a famous female spy. Yeah, heart, I
40:54
Speaker 1: believe were War one. Oh cool, Yeah, she's cool. Okay,
40:57
Speaker 1: wikild be a page women in piracy. We're prepared, we're prepared.
41:01
Speaker 1: Another thing that happens that I was like, Oh, that's
41:03
Speaker 1: that's cool. For Elizabeth to do is she tricks Jack
41:07
Speaker 1: into getting drunk so that he can pass out, and
41:11
Speaker 1: then she burns all the rum on the island to
41:14
Speaker 1: create a signal for the navy to find. And she
41:17
Speaker 1: fits being way drunk er than she actually like, she
41:22
Speaker 1: does a lot of cool stuff. She's smart because you know,
41:25
Speaker 1: if if her and Kira Knightley was like seventeen when
41:29
Speaker 1: she shot this movie, Yeah, isn't that crazy, But it's
41:32
Speaker 1: like for her aid, you know, I don't know if
41:35
Speaker 1: I would have thought of that ship if I was
41:37
Speaker 1: sixteen and also completely sheltered, and so the character, I mean,
41:41
Speaker 1: she's not always treated well. She is submissive in ways
41:46
Speaker 1: that you know, you wish she kicked people's asks when
41:48
Speaker 1: she didn't. But she's smart, she's capable, and that is
41:53
Speaker 1: never called into question by the movie. It's called into
41:56
Speaker 1: question by certain characters, but the movie never seems to doubt.
42:00
Speaker 1: You know, this is a capable person who can accomplish stuff. Again,
42:04
Speaker 1: this movie, for me, is just like a failure of
42:05
Speaker 1: giving her any like giving us any other female characters
42:09
Speaker 1: to like really connect with, because we don't have time
42:12
Speaker 1: with anyone. I mean, as someone who is also very
42:15
Speaker 1: horny for pirates. I did like to see unscreen all
42:18
Speaker 1: the pirates. They keep talking about the pirate code and
42:23
Speaker 1: then moving, and I'm like, is that like bro code
42:27
Speaker 1: but instead of like bros before hose. I was imagining
42:31
Speaker 1: that their phrase would be booty before booty, but it's
42:34
Speaker 1: like pirate booty before lady but before And yeah, yours
42:42
Speaker 1: is good. I liked it. Thank you well. That made
42:47
Speaker 1: me think for some reason, of Jack is very good
42:50
Speaker 1: at being a pirate. Norrington is very good at being
42:54
Speaker 1: a military man. Will Turner is very good at being
42:59
Speaker 1: a swords smith man. Elizabeth is not allowed to have
43:04
Speaker 1: a career, right, but she's very good at being pretty,
43:09
Speaker 1: and very good at being wanted, and very good and
43:11
Speaker 1: showing her cleaping. Her clothes are so precariously close to
43:18
Speaker 1: not being on her, Like how close her clothes get
43:20
Speaker 1: to her nips? Yeah is wild. I kept waiting for
43:23
Speaker 1: a nip. I was w a nip, but apparently she
43:26
Speaker 1: was underage, so you know, we really couldn't be showing
43:29
Speaker 1: those nips. Yeah. Yeah, she knows a lot about pirates.
43:32
Speaker 1: You can assume that she wrote read a bunch about
43:34
Speaker 1: like pirate lore because she were cited the whole thing.
43:37
Speaker 1: She's like, I invoked right, a parley according to the
43:40
Speaker 1: code of the Brethren of the laid down by the
43:43
Speaker 1: pirates Morgan and Bartholomew. You have to take me to
43:46
Speaker 1: your captain and all the time, and I'm like, wow,
43:50
Speaker 1: do you read about pirates that she knows as much
43:53
Speaker 1: about pirates as I know about Haley Joel Osmond. If
43:58
Speaker 1: there was a point where I could invoke a fact
44:00
Speaker 1: about Haley Jewels, I would be ready. I would be safe. Yeah.
44:04
Speaker 1: Can I take you up on that right now? Yeah.
44:07
Speaker 1: Haley Joel was discovered in an i Q when he
44:09
Speaker 1: was three years old, and he was put into a
44:11
Speaker 1: Pizza Hut commercial and later rosa prominence in his first
44:14
Speaker 1: role as far as Cup, where he learned how to
44:16
Speaker 1: tie your shoes on the set. Wow, take me to
44:18
Speaker 1: your leader. There's one thing I was thinking about, which
44:23
Speaker 1: is in the beginning when they're talking to Jack Sparrow,
44:25
Speaker 1: he's talking to the two dentists. They're like, are you
44:27
Speaker 1: a pirate? Rattles off a bunch of things that pirates do,
44:30
Speaker 1: and he says rape, which I thought was interesting for
44:33
Speaker 1: like a kid's movie, because they kind of whitewashed right,
44:36
Speaker 1: but he says the actual word, right. I thought it
44:39
Speaker 1: was Raid might have said rape, though I don't think
44:43
Speaker 1: he said right. I think he's like plunder. Yeah, he's like,
44:46
Speaker 1: all right, Oh, don't worry, I know the line. He's alright,
44:48
Speaker 1: I confess mine, no, come in, come in, I'm not
44:55
Speaker 1: gonna get it totally right. I love this dance you
44:57
Speaker 1: just took back. He's like, alright, I'm gonna My attention
45:07
Speaker 1: is to comment here, one of these ships pick up
45:10
Speaker 1: a crew in Tortuga, rate pillage, plunder and otherwise and
45:14
Speaker 1: any like trails often system other stuff. I'm looking at
45:17
Speaker 1: the script right now, so maybe this was strange. I
45:22
Speaker 1: mean that maybe this is an earlier draft. I confess
45:24
Speaker 1: I intend to commandeer one of these ships, pick up
45:27
Speaker 1: a crew in Tortuga, and go on the account and
45:29
Speaker 1: do a little honest pirrating that that's not what happened.
45:34
Speaker 1: He may maybe he improvised the word rape, which, knowing
45:38
Speaker 1: Johnny later history, may have just been at the top
45:41
Speaker 1: of his head. We don't know. I think now that
45:44
Speaker 1: you say that, that makes a lot more sense, because
45:45
Speaker 1: it struck me as odd that they would allow that
45:47
Speaker 1: to happen, right, I mean it doesn't come up anywhere else.
45:53
Speaker 1: It's a Disney movie. I highly doubt they would say rape.
45:57
Speaker 1: But pirates are famous for raping and pillaging, so I
46:02
Speaker 1: assumed it was raid. But I guess we'll never know.
46:05
Speaker 1: We'll never never see the movie again, and neither will anyone,
46:09
Speaker 1: and this is the last we'll ever talk about it.
46:12
Speaker 1: I wish she had said the line with a little
46:14
Speaker 1: honest py writing. That's so much worse. I wonder where
46:17
Speaker 1: that came from. It's bad, bad dialogue. Oh. I made
46:21
Speaker 1: a list of all the words that women are referred
46:26
Speaker 1: to throughout the movie. Rather than calling them women, they
46:32
Speaker 1: are called strumpet, which would say horror or prostitute. Yeah,
46:38
Speaker 1: they're called poppet. I remember that, which it means like
46:42
Speaker 1: little girl, doll, darling. You know, it's terrible as when
46:46
Speaker 1: I was younger, I assumed the word poppet just because
46:48
Speaker 1: of how it's invoked in that movie, just that like idiot,
46:52
Speaker 1: Like I think that my like cousins and I would
46:55
Speaker 1: call each other poppets after seeing that movie, just to
46:58
Speaker 1: call each other like dumbasses. Well, he uses it very condescendingly,
47:01
Speaker 1: so it's not surprising. Yeah, I just didn't know it's
47:03
Speaker 1: specific to a woman, but I guess it is. I
47:05
Speaker 1: thought it was a pastry, just like I thought strumpet was.
47:12
Speaker 1: I'm like tea and strumpets. Yeah, I think you think
47:15
Speaker 1: of crumpets, but yeah, and throw a splash of puppet.
47:21
Speaker 1: She's called a bonnie last, which I suppose in itself
47:25
Speaker 1: isn't offensive, but it means like pretty girl. Here's the thing.
47:28
Speaker 1: A lot of times grown women are referred to as girls.
47:32
Speaker 1: And it's problematic because one, we don't call grown men boys.
47:37
Speaker 1: We don't say like, oh that boy over there, referring
47:39
Speaker 1: to a man, but people will be like, oh, who's
47:42
Speaker 1: that girl when they're referring to a grown woman. And
47:45
Speaker 1: it's just this a way to like diminish a woman's existence.
47:49
Speaker 1: Men love sex, babies, it's improve especially if they can come.
47:56
Speaker 1: Can that baby come? Also, women are referred to as
48:00
Speaker 1: pleasurable company, and true, that's my stripper name coming to
48:09
Speaker 1: stage next, pleasurable company. And then finally, as you mentioned before,
48:15
Speaker 1: Jack is like not all treasures silver and gold night,
48:19
Speaker 1: referring to Elizabeth being treasure, a commodity to be owned.
48:26
Speaker 1: Can treasure too, Let's make a teacher so yeah, that's
48:31
Speaker 1: a fun thing. Does anyone have any final thoughts about
48:34
Speaker 1: the movie? I liked it more than I thought I
48:36
Speaker 1: was going to, even though I don't think that that's
48:38
Speaker 1: um she has any agency at all, and it's a
48:41
Speaker 1: very disappointing for U women. But as far as entertainment him,
48:46
Speaker 1: it was fun as a movie, solid blockbuster like it.
48:49
Speaker 1: It's fun. I wish I still had those booty shorts.
48:54
Speaker 1: That sounds awesome. Yeah, right, that Beanie probably best lost.
48:58
Speaker 1: Elizabeth Swan doesn't have enough agency or stuff to do.
49:03
Speaker 1: But given the way we're introduced to her and how
49:07
Speaker 1: we're introduced her, I think she is a good character
49:10
Speaker 1: who has no one to interact with that isn't a
49:14
Speaker 1: horny man, and that, for me is the tragedy. Right
49:19
Speaker 1: With that, let's talk about whether or not the movie
49:21
Speaker 1: passes the Becto test. It's it's a little unclear. Yeah,
49:25
Speaker 1: the first scene where two women are interacting with each other,
49:27
Speaker 1: for sure does not pass because it's Elizabeth talking to
49:30
Speaker 1: her maid. She does not have a name, and I
49:32
Speaker 1: don't think is ever given a name, which is weird
49:35
Speaker 1: because she has I would say, almost as much screen
49:38
Speaker 1: time as Zoe Saldana does. Right, She's in it like
49:42
Speaker 1: quite a bit, but we don't know her name. Most
49:43
Speaker 1: of the time she's strapping up Elizabeth's corset, but um, yeah.
49:47
Speaker 1: So they have a conversation first about She's like, what
49:50
Speaker 1: a difficult day for you? And Elizabeth is like, yeah,
49:53
Speaker 1: the commodore proposed whoa. I wasn't expecting that. And she's like, no,
49:57
Speaker 1: I meant you being threatened by that pirate and and
50:00
Speaker 1: she's like, oh, yeah, that was that was hard. She
50:04
Speaker 1: has very very horny hers were actively hard in it.
50:08
Speaker 1: She was like, I didn't like it. I hate it.
50:12
Speaker 1: I hate And then the maid is like, well that
50:20
Speaker 1: will turner. He's a hot guy. And like every single
50:24
Speaker 1: line it's like and there's also this male character. So
50:28
Speaker 1: this one they talk about three different men in the
50:31
Speaker 1: course of twenty second. I think they bring up daddy too.
50:34
Speaker 1: It's every male character we've been introduced is invoked in
50:38
Speaker 1: this one scene. At this point, when we watched scenes
50:40
Speaker 1: like that where it's like, oh my gosh, it's a
50:42
Speaker 1: scene with two women, it's like that this is our sports.
50:46
Speaker 1: We're like, we're like playing bets and stuff, and then
50:49
Speaker 1: like cut the next scene We're like, oh my god,
50:54
Speaker 1: I love that. Then the next scene where the same
50:57
Speaker 1: two characters are talking the maids like the bad pirates,
51:01
Speaker 1: they're here to kidnap you because you're the governor's daughter,
51:03
Speaker 1: and she's like some exposition. Yeah, she's like, go hide
51:08
Speaker 1: and run to the fort. So unclear whether or not that.
51:11
Speaker 1: I think you had a really good point though, where
51:13
Speaker 1: they they're referring to men coming for her, and it's well,
51:17
Speaker 1: men are coming for her, men becoming men are also
51:21
Speaker 1: in pursuit of her right and and we they don't
51:25
Speaker 1: say a masculine term, but we know from context that
51:28
Speaker 1: they're talking about men. So I think I think you're right. Anyways, Yeah,
51:32
Speaker 1: let's say that that does not pass then, yeah, because
51:35
Speaker 1: they're talking about the men coming after them and what
51:37
Speaker 1: they're going to do because the men are coming in
51:39
Speaker 1: to that. Yeah. And then the final scene where you know, well,
51:43
Speaker 1: we got one chance left, let's see how it goes.
51:45
Speaker 1: There's a one more scene where two women talk to
51:48
Speaker 1: each other and it's Elizabeth and Anna Maria and he's like,
51:51
Speaker 1: the Black Peril is gaining on us, and Elizabeth is like,
51:53
Speaker 1: but this is the fastest ship in the Caribbean and antimaries,
51:56
Speaker 1: like you can tell them that after they've caught us,
51:59
Speaker 1: and then they say a bunch of nautical ship, but
52:01
Speaker 1: you can tell them that after they got again them
52:03
Speaker 1: and they and there's no other female character and flat
52:08
Speaker 1: in that term because the only two female characters are
52:10
Speaker 1: speaking to each other. I don't want to give this
52:16
Speaker 1: movie any leeway. I don't think I think that this
52:20
Speaker 1: is we're talking about. I don't know, I don't know.
52:24
Speaker 1: They're directly talking about men coming after them and how
52:26
Speaker 1: they're gonna what they're gonna do. Yeah, I agree, I mean,
52:29
Speaker 1: and when it's this barely of a pass anyways, and
52:33
Speaker 1: we might as well just say it doesn't like if
52:36
Speaker 1: there's this much discussion into like the fact that they
52:39
Speaker 1: discussed you know. Yeah, it seems like this movie does
52:43
Speaker 1: not pass. There are a number of times where two
52:47
Speaker 1: men are talking to each other about a woman so
52:51
Speaker 1: and they're calling her a strumpet most of the time.
52:53
Speaker 1: But I don't know those better or worse. So should
52:56
Speaker 1: we ignore women or should we berate them? Which is bad?
53:00
Speaker 1: Or so? Yeah, let's say that it does not pass
53:03
Speaker 1: the Bacte test. Not entirely surprising, but I was hoping.
53:07
Speaker 1: I mean, some movies have surprised us by having a few,
53:09
Speaker 1: like at least one scene where you're like, okay, cool, like, yeah,
53:14
Speaker 1: they talked about it. I'm offen it gives a little
53:16
Speaker 1: piece of grizzle to chew on in the audience, but
53:19
Speaker 1: not this one. Yeah, and it's so long, right, Yeah.
53:23
Speaker 1: Jeffrey Rush great though, Yeah, yeah, Jeffrey Rush is great. Yeah.
53:27
Speaker 1: You see his penis in the movie Quills. I know.
53:30
Speaker 1: I used to have an Android phone, and so sometimes
53:32
Speaker 1: I just like put my phone and say, like, okay,
53:34
Speaker 1: google Jeffrey Rush's penis, and then it would come up.
53:39
Speaker 1: It's great. Are we ready to rate the movie? Yes?
53:43
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. Did you say, uh, ready to rape the movie? No? Yeah,
53:49
Speaker 1: I learn to floor play the movie. I said, raid
53:54
Speaker 1: dy to rain the movie? Was pr the word I again,
53:58
Speaker 1: I'm having a really time saying certain words today horror
54:03
Speaker 1: instead of her that's literally really that's a really bad
54:10
Speaker 1: And then I said floor play. It's okay, sorry, everyone
54:15
Speaker 1: stay safe. So what I what I'm trying to do
54:18
Speaker 1: is get us to rate the movie on our nipple scale.
54:23
Speaker 1: We have a scale of zero to five nipples where
54:26
Speaker 1: we write the movie based on its portrayal of women.
54:29
Speaker 1: I'll go first. I think this movie gets a too
54:34
Speaker 1: because Elizabeth isn't the worst character. She could be positioned
54:40
Speaker 1: as a damsel in distress who's kind of like has
54:43
Speaker 1: absolutely no bearing on the story except just having to
54:46
Speaker 1: be saved, and she does exist primarily as the romantic
54:50
Speaker 1: interest for a number of different characters. But she does
54:54
Speaker 1: take initiative and do stuff sometimes, and it's she's clearly smart.
54:59
Speaker 1: She has spent a lot of time researching and obsessing
55:02
Speaker 1: over pirates. She gets very horny. I think the only
55:05
Speaker 1: reason she ends up with Will Turner at the end
55:08
Speaker 1: is because she's like, oh he's kind of a pirate, now, okay,
55:11
Speaker 1: I'll fuck him. Yeah he has she changed him, she changed,
55:18
Speaker 1: she fixed It makes him. I would not see. There's
55:21
Speaker 1: no one in this movie I wanted to fix. And
55:23
Speaker 1: I'm a great fixer. You are a great fix I
55:25
Speaker 1: love a good fixer, rapper, love a good project. Did
55:29
Speaker 1: I want to fix? And then like, I don't know,
55:32
Speaker 1: the parts where she is like oh that was kind
55:33
Speaker 1: of cool that she did are just sort of like
55:36
Speaker 1: kind of canceled out by the fact that, like there's
55:38
Speaker 1: so much violence against her, and then she's not that
55:41
Speaker 1: interesting or developed of a I'm not like, oh, let's
55:45
Speaker 1: quote Elizabeth want she because she has all these cool quotes,
55:48
Speaker 1: and let's emulate her into the fact that Kia Knightli
55:52
Speaker 1: is playing her. I mean she doesn't have a ton
55:54
Speaker 1: of range. There's a ton. I mean there's there's a
55:56
Speaker 1: lot of bland ass actors in like Orlando. There are
55:59
Speaker 1: the two leads are boring as fuck, like Orlando Bloom
56:02
Speaker 1: and Night. They're British. Sure, that's Orlando Bloom for sure,
56:07
Speaker 1: has no charisma, facid as hell. I think it's a
56:10
Speaker 1: skilled actress, but she like, she doesn't have any range.
56:13
Speaker 1: She can be in movies that take place from like
56:17
Speaker 1: nineteen hundred all the way back to six hundred as
56:21
Speaker 1: long as she's in like a long dress. And yeah,
56:27
Speaker 1: so I'm gonna give it a two nipples they belong
56:30
Speaker 1: to the monkey named Jack Jack the Monkey. Okay, I'm
56:34
Speaker 1: gonna give it one in three fourth nipples, Um love it. Yeah,
56:38
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say she was incredibly helpless. Wasn't into that,
56:42
Speaker 1: but I do. I did see potential for her character
56:45
Speaker 1: to develop, like later in the series where I was
56:47
Speaker 1: like Okay, she's got some spunk and I could see
56:50
Speaker 1: this becoming an actual person as it goes on. But
56:53
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say one in three fourths. I like, yeah,
56:56
Speaker 1: I don't know if we've ever had a three fourths
56:57
Speaker 1: before we do it in good that's just a nipple
57:00
Speaker 1: with a little assist. Unbit it too hard, Okay, I'll
57:06
Speaker 1: give it too. I agree that Elizabeth Swan is fundamentally
57:11
Speaker 1: a good character. I think if she was played by
57:14
Speaker 1: another actress, she would probably seem like an even more
57:18
Speaker 1: strong character. And there's female characters with potential for more stories,
57:24
Speaker 1: specifically and Maria. Um. So the roots of really able
57:29
Speaker 1: to be developed female characters are here with at least
57:32
Speaker 1: two characters, and it's just not capitalized on in this movie.
57:36
Speaker 1: But I mean, and this is horrible to be like, well,
57:39
Speaker 1: at least they're there. But at least they're there. Um
57:42
Speaker 1: those nipples and give one to Saldanna, one Saldana nip,
57:48
Speaker 1: and then one goofy pirate nip, one of the dumb ones,
57:52
Speaker 1: the one that has a wooden eye. Yeah, I supposed
57:55
Speaker 1: to give the nips away. We just described them. So
57:57
Speaker 1: then we as we're saying, like who these nipples belong
58:00
Speaker 1: to Okay, then one is like a big pink nipple,
58:04
Speaker 1: it belongs to the dad, like a silver pancake. And
58:10
Speaker 1: then another one's like a little tight nipple, and it's
58:13
Speaker 1: going to belong to Giselle nipple very tiny. I do
58:20
Speaker 1: picture of the Dad's nipple as lactating. I don't know why,
58:25
Speaker 1: but I'm like that Dad's got some milk in him
58:28
Speaker 1: because he can stop it up with his wig, because
58:31
Speaker 1: he has the greatest wig of them all. Oh, that's
58:33
Speaker 1: my last comment. So many wigs in this movie. The
58:37
Speaker 1: wout wigs out hogs out, No hogs out in the movie.
58:40
Speaker 1: But wigs are certainly man. What was the wig budget?
58:44
Speaker 1: That's my new question to ask. Guess that wig budget.
58:49
Speaker 1: There had to have been a solid twenty thousand dollars
58:52
Speaker 1: spent on wigs alone. I see that's probably pretty close
58:56
Speaker 1: to being right. Those were high class wigs, because all
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Speaker 1: the pirates are wearing wigs, two out more most of them.
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Speaker 1: Orlando Bloom not wearing a wig. They just like throw
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Speaker 1: some grease on him. Yeah, he sucks. I have seen
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Speaker 1: the second and third of the Pirates movies. Don't remember them,
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Speaker 1: I know I do remember there being another female character
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Speaker 1: who they go to because they're like, we need to
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Speaker 1: bring Barbosa back from the dead, and then she does it.
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Speaker 1: But I don't know if any other female characters like
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Speaker 1: new ones are introduced. I can't. I don't remember. I'd
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Speaker 1: have to rewatch them. I did not see the fourth movie,
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Speaker 1: but this fifth one coming out kire Knightley in Orlando Bloom.
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Speaker 1: I don't think we're in the fourth movie, but they
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Speaker 1: returned for this fifth one. Dead Men Tell No Tales,
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Speaker 1: which is something that Cotton's Pirates says in this movie,
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Speaker 1: and Curse the Black Pearl, so oh yeah, and then
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Speaker 1: Davy Jones. I feel like this this movie series just
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Speaker 1: invokes vague nautical ship throughout, but that's also true to
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Speaker 1: the roller Coaster, just vague nautical ship where you're like,
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Speaker 1: this seems about right. Oh. I would argue this isn't
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Speaker 1: either the second or the third movie. But you see
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Speaker 1: a huge vagina monster Krack is a huge pussy. Yeah. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: that's great. Should it like pussy juice on everyone? It
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Speaker 1: kind of like sneezes. Yeah, that's exciting. It's a female character,
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Speaker 1: right there, I think, so. Yeah, if only she gets
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Speaker 1: it's more of an aura. It's very feminine aura about
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Speaker 1: that particular installment. We should do an episode about the
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Speaker 1: country Bears. This is something I will say over and
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Speaker 1: is it live action or animated? It is live action?
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Speaker 1: Maybe it is. It's pretty much just like let's take
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Speaker 1: the scary animatronics from the ride no one likes, but
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Speaker 1: for ninety minutes it's wild and I'm pretty sure it's
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Speaker 1: like a Smurfette situation where there's like one female. How
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Speaker 1: did we get all these bears? An amazing story. I
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Speaker 1: would just want to say one last thing, and that
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Speaker 1: is booty before booty, which is get that money before
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Speaker 1: getting up boy booty. I've never referred to a man.
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Speaker 1: I guess well. I have been like, oh booty call
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Speaker 1: boys can be Booty's. So yeah, booty before booty. Anyway, Ashley,
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