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- 0:03Speaker 1: Hey, what do you have for me on Garrett Crochet.
- 0:05Speaker 1: We're about to talk to Dan Hayes about the Twins
- 0:07Speaker 1: and we can ask him about Crochet. Since the Twins
- 0:10Speaker 1: burn all star lefty starters, Crochet ten earned runs eleven
- 0:15Speaker 1: runs total. He recorded five outs, no punch outs. It
- 0:20Speaker 1: was the most uncharacteristic Garrett Crochet outing ever.
- 0:24Speaker 2: Yeah, it happens. It happened, everybody. Oh, look at these is.
- 0:30Speaker 2: He's not the only.
- 0:31Speaker 1: One scooble fromber Crochet a target field in the past week,
- 0:37Speaker 1: twenty two earned runs in eleven innings. That's an eighteen
- 0:41Speaker 1: twenty eight hit. Seven walks. Don't stop the Twins, machinede.
- 0:47Speaker 3: They're hot, baby, They're hot on. All you people out
- 0:50Speaker 3: there that say the Twins weren't going to be good,
- 0:51Speaker 3: look at them.
- 0:51Speaker 2: Go now, we'll take it all back. All you other people.
- 0:54Speaker 1: Wait for the one minute same here for the one
- 0:57Speaker 1: minute that we have.
- 0:57Speaker 2: Before your other people. Scott craps.
- 1:02Speaker 1: With Crochet. This stuff was down a little bit, like
- 1:05Speaker 1: they were talking.
- 1:06Speaker 2: I know they were always stuff was down.
- 1:08Speaker 1: And he didn't look yet, you know, like some guys are,
- 1:11Speaker 1: like I'm looking at every reading right even between innings.
- 1:14Speaker 1: Crochet is clearly not that guy. He probably looks later,
- 1:16Speaker 1: but he was like, oh, well, my stuff is down?
- 1:19Speaker 1: What was it? And I think the reports were, oh,
- 1:20Speaker 1: it's not like a mile an hour. I was like, okay, cool,
- 1:24Speaker 1: I'm fine.
- 1:24Speaker 2: Guy.
- 1:26Speaker 1: You know, like you would think it.
- 1:27Speaker 2: Was it was cold out. You're right, it was cold out.
- 1:31Speaker 2: And you know what. We had Tristan Gray on yesterday.
- 1:33Speaker 1: Who does he play for the Twins?
- 1:34Speaker 2: He didn't play, but we should have known.
- 1:37Speaker 1: But imagine if like you're a starter, like an ace
- 1:40Speaker 1: and and you might like you get a million mics
- 1:43Speaker 1: in your face and they're like, your stuff's down?
- 1:45Speaker 2: What happened?
- 1:46Speaker 1: And you're thinking like, oh crap, was my stuff down
- 1:48Speaker 1: like three miles an hour? It's down a point, he's
- 1:51Speaker 1: down one mile an hour? Okay, I'm next.
- 1:53Speaker 2: Would be con question, bro next next?
- 1:57Speaker 4: Oh no, they were jumping all They had a game
- 2:01Speaker 4: plan and the entire team stuck with it. That's the
- 2:03Speaker 4: most I've watched a Twins game this year, other than
- 2:07Speaker 4: Trek Scooble's game. And they had a game plan. Everything
- 2:12Speaker 4: that was down, everything that was gonna be an all
- 2:14Speaker 4: speed pitch down in his zone. They were just like
- 2:16Speaker 4: we're just not gonna swing and they were just hopping
- 2:20Speaker 4: on that heater. They hopped on Trek Scooble's heater. They
- 2:23Speaker 4: just didn't swing at his change up. Like great, great
- 2:27Speaker 4: team approach. It clearly had an approach that they executed
- 2:32Speaker 4: against three really good lefties.
- 2:34Speaker 3: It's really hard to get a team to do that,
- 2:37Speaker 3: to get especially against guys. I mean, I'll never forget
- 2:41Speaker 3: speaking of the Twins. When I was in the White Sox,
- 2:42Speaker 3: Johan Santana, who won two so Young's and was a
- 2:45Speaker 3: great pitcher for a long time.
- 2:47Speaker 2: We had all his pitches.
- 2:48Speaker 3: Okay, we we still couldn't hit him, but we knew
- 2:51Speaker 3: when he was doing to change up.
- 2:53Speaker 1: Hey, Dan Hayes is back with us on FT covers
- 2:56Speaker 1: the Twins for the Athletic and one of the new
- 2:58Speaker 1: hosts of Twin Cities Territory. Dan, great to have you on.
- 3:01Speaker 1: We love having you on the FT team. The show
- 3:04Speaker 1: sounds great and the team looks really good. The first
- 3:07Speaker 1: couple of weeks, what has gotten into the Twins?
- 3:10Speaker 2: Maybe hater hater?
- 3:12Speaker 1: Maybe maybeter Pole add the new owner or the new
- 3:17Speaker 1: control owner was right. He had been telling you guys
- 3:19Speaker 1: all off season. This team's good.
- 3:22Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 3:23Speaker 6: Look, the hopometer was four point three percent going into
- 3:27Speaker 6: the season, the Athletics Hopemeters. There were like six teams
- 3:31Speaker 6: below sixty percent in baseball and the Twins were at
- 3:34Speaker 6: four point three percent. So thanks to the Twins for
- 3:37Speaker 6: doing this to help pump up the show at the start,
- 3:39Speaker 6: and you know, have fans want to tune in and listen.
- 3:43Speaker 6: But you know, you guys were talking about the roller
- 3:45Speaker 6: coaster on that last segment and going into that schoobl
- 3:48Speaker 6: start a week ago.
- 3:49Speaker 5: This was a team that.
- 3:50Speaker 6: Was had a five thirty ops against left handed pitching
- 3:54Speaker 6: starting pitching so far this season and over the last week,
- 3:57Speaker 6: it's been those four games that you guys were the
- 4:00Speaker 6: two in Toronto. They didn't win on Friday, but they
- 4:03Speaker 6: got to Corman as well, so they've they've hit lefty pitching.
- 4:08Speaker 6: It was a matter of time sort of like Lindor,
- 4:10Speaker 6: where you knew Buckson was gonna hit better than he
- 4:13Speaker 6: had been. You knew that Luke Kishaw was going to
- 4:16Speaker 6: start to hit a little bit.
- 4:17Speaker 5: They weren't performing.
- 4:18Speaker 6: Through the first nine games, and now here we are,
- 4:21Speaker 6: you know, with this the slow run where they took
- 4:24Speaker 6: swept Tigers for four and took two of three in
- 4:27Speaker 6: Toronto and then beat up Crochet last night. And a
- 4:31Speaker 6: team that was way at the bottom of the offensive
- 4:34Speaker 6: numbers now is fifth and runs scored. So it's a
- 4:36Speaker 6: roller coaster. I think that what you're seeing so far.
- 4:39Speaker 6: You mentioned Eric the approach. I went over and listened
- 4:42Speaker 6: to Cora and Crochet just to hear what they had
- 4:45Speaker 6: to say. And Cora was said before the game that
- 4:49Speaker 6: he knew they jumped on lefties and and said they
- 4:52Speaker 6: covered everything up last night. They were so disciplined with it.
- 4:56Speaker 6: You're right, it's a team that's working together. I think
- 4:58Speaker 6: that's going to be the key for this group because
- 5:01Speaker 6: there is a lot of high end draft pick talent that's.
- 5:04Speaker 5: Never really been realized. You look around the room yesterday.
- 5:08Speaker 6: One of the Red Sox writers came over to us
- 5:10Speaker 6: and he's like, I haven't heard a lot of these guys,
- 5:12Speaker 6: and I was like, well, first rounder, first rounder, first rounder,
- 5:15Speaker 6: second rounder, and they've been in the big leagues for
- 5:17Speaker 6: a little while, but it just hasn't happened.
- 5:19Speaker 5: This is a good start for this group.
- 5:21Speaker 6: They needed some good vibes given how down fans are,
- 5:24Speaker 6: and I think that's the most optimal way to start
- 5:28Speaker 6: a season is just to come out because they're battling cold.
- 5:31Speaker 5: They're battling miserable temperatures.
- 5:33Speaker 6: The last time Mick Abel started, or two times ago,
- 5:37Speaker 6: it was twenty four degrees wind chill when he started
- 5:40Speaker 6: the game. I mean, I don't know how you hit
- 5:42Speaker 6: in that. I don't know how you pitching that. They're
- 5:44Speaker 6: seventeen April home games this year, so plenty of chances
- 5:48Speaker 6: to be in that miserable cold, and they're finding a
- 5:49Speaker 6: way to kind of make it work. And it's great
- 5:52Speaker 6: for them, it's great for their fans.
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- 6:58Speaker 2: Just want to make sure I'm not a hater.
- 7:06Speaker 7: Me.
- 7:07Speaker 2: Sorry, these are both twins and bableheads of me. Yes,
- 7:09Speaker 2: that's me. I'm both of them, So I'm not a
- 7:11Speaker 2: hater of the twins. But what I mean, what what?
- 7:14Speaker 3: Honestly, you have to be surprised. Everybody's a little bit surprised. Yea,
- 7:17Speaker 3: I know the twins are gonna say, we're not surprised.
- 7:20Speaker 3: We thought we had this. Everyone's a little bit surprised
- 7:22Speaker 3: by this. But what is it? Derek Shelton, is it?
- 7:26Speaker 3: Dad Levine and that crew in Fallavey being gone? What
- 7:29Speaker 3: what has changed Because you mentioned the team approach. It's
- 7:32Speaker 3: not like they got a bunch of new players. They
- 7:34Speaker 3: just kind of brought guys up from the organization. So
- 7:36Speaker 3: what is the new voice that's changed in this clubhouse
- 7:40Speaker 3: to make them have this team approach and also be
- 7:42Speaker 3: better pitching.
- 7:43Speaker 6: Well, Derek Shelton, win was the bench coach, was great
- 7:46Speaker 6: at the relationship part of things, and players loved him.
- 7:48Speaker 6: And he came in and said, we're gonna make sure
- 7:51Speaker 6: everybody is on the same page.
- 7:53Speaker 5: We're gonna communicate.
- 7:54Speaker 6: Everybody seems to understand their role and for whatever reason,
- 7:57Speaker 6: they are a close knit group. Barn Buckson mentioned last night.
- 8:00Speaker 6: Shelton mentioned it and a lot of team dinners early,
- 8:03Speaker 6: guys just trusting in one another. But you're right, I mean,
- 8:06Speaker 6: it is surprising you look and the signs for regression
- 8:09Speaker 6: are still there. I mean, this is the team with
- 8:11Speaker 6: the worst infield defense by defensive run saved in baseball.
- 8:16Speaker 6: They don't have a bullpen where right now, there have
- 8:18Speaker 6: been thirteen fastballs thrown over ninety seven miles prior to
- 8:22Speaker 6: ten of those were Andrew Morris in his debut There
- 8:24Speaker 6: to day, he's a starter or has been a starter
- 8:27Speaker 6: for his whole career, and right now he's up in
- 8:29Speaker 6: the bullpen. Who knows what his long term path is.
- 8:32Speaker 6: The other three were Mick Abele on the day he piggybacked,
- 8:35Speaker 6: So no other Twins relievers hit ninety seven like that bullpen.
- 8:40Speaker 6: There's going to be some regression there. And right now,
- 8:42Speaker 6: I mean, as it is, that group is maybe twenty
- 8:45Speaker 6: second or twenty third in war, so they haven't even
- 8:48Speaker 6: been that great to begin with. So yes, this is
- 8:53Speaker 6: propped up a little bit, but there's some really good
- 8:55Speaker 6: starting pitching. Taj Bradley has been just incredible so far.
- 8:59Speaker 6: Mickable finally when he got a good conditions. You know,
- 9:03Speaker 6: the first one was a piggyback. I wouldn't wish a
- 9:05Speaker 6: piggyback on any young pitcher. And his second one was
- 9:10Speaker 6: that twenty four degree win chill last time out was
- 9:12Speaker 6: like forty degrees. He puted six scoreless against Detroit and
- 9:15Speaker 6: looked really good. Joe Ryan finally on his last turn,
- 9:18Speaker 6: had a really good outing. So the Simeon Woods. Richardson
- 9:21Speaker 6: had four scoreless on Friday. Apparently he had a bad
- 9:25Speaker 6: case of subway in Toronto and had foods poisoning and
- 9:29Speaker 6: like the outing took, you know, went away from him.
- 9:32Speaker 5: Bailey over is still working through velocity stuff.
- 9:35Speaker 6: His command is better, but he needs that velocity. All
- 9:40Speaker 6: that said, I think the starting pitching can keep them
- 9:42Speaker 6: in a competitive spot and they know that, and so
- 9:45Speaker 6: you see those numbers out there. It's helped them stay
- 9:48Speaker 6: in games. And the offense. I mean again, they just
- 9:53Speaker 6: seemed to be on board with each other. The veterans
- 9:56Speaker 6: have said to young guys, they really liked this coaching staff.
- 10:00Speaker 6: They like the messaging they're hearing. I think the young
- 10:02Speaker 6: guys are trusting that the veterans and these are new veterans.
- 10:05Speaker 6: Josh Bell has coming and had a really nice influence
- 10:07Speaker 6: on the clubhouse.
- 10:08Speaker 5: Vic Carratini has also done the same thing.
- 10:11Speaker 6: Both those guys are coming in and just doing whatever
- 10:14Speaker 6: it takes for this team. Kartini is a catcher. He's
- 10:16Speaker 6: only caught like four times so far. Ryan Jeffers has
- 10:19Speaker 6: done most of the catching. Bell would like to be
- 10:21Speaker 6: the first baseman. He's mostly been the DH and I
- 10:24Speaker 6: think when guys see those examples, they're more willing to platoon.
- 10:27Speaker 6: You look at that left field platoon right now between
- 10:29Speaker 6: Austin Martin and Trevor Larnok. Martin had two more base
- 10:32Speaker 6: hits to jump start those first rallies last night off
- 10:36Speaker 6: Crochet and going into last night that group had an
- 10:39Speaker 6: eight sixteen ops and left field. That's a team. You know,
- 10:42Speaker 6: that's a surprising spot. But both guys understand that's how
- 10:46Speaker 6: they're going to be used, and they're comfortable with it.
- 10:48Speaker 6: And I think that all that stuff has really helped
- 10:50Speaker 6: them out early on. And you know, it's a snowball effect.
- 10:54Speaker 6: When you have good vibes going, everybody wants in on it.
- 10:57Speaker 5: Everybody feels good. You saw it with brooks.
- 10:59Speaker 6: Lee with his walk off hit against or his game
- 11:02Speaker 6: winning hit against Detroit. He had started six for thirty
- 11:04Speaker 6: one before that. The whole dugout was going crazy for him.
- 11:07Speaker 6: So they're enjoying the upside of this roller coaster ride.
- 11:10Speaker 6: And we'll see how long they can go, because certainly
- 11:13Speaker 6: it could be regression with some of the flaws that
- 11:16Speaker 6: the roster has.
- 11:18Speaker 4: Okay, so you talked about regression, But which of these
- 11:21Speaker 4: I want to say breakout because we're what's seventeen games
- 11:24Speaker 4: in right, Which of these hot starts is the most
- 11:29Speaker 4: sustainable out of the surprising guys. Like you said, a
- 11:32Speaker 4: lot of people don't know these guys out of these
- 11:34Speaker 4: starts on the offense, not on pitching. We'll get to pitching, okay,
- 11:38Speaker 4: Which is the most sustainable for an entire one hundred
- 11:42Speaker 4: and sixty two game season.
- 11:43Speaker 5: That's a good question.
- 11:44Speaker 6: Look, I think Josh Bell fits nicely and he's not
- 11:48Speaker 6: a surprise guy, so actually we'll disqualify that. Martin has
- 11:53Speaker 6: been an on base guy always and it wouldn't shock
- 11:56Speaker 6: me to see him end up with a three point
- 11:58Speaker 6: fifty three sixty on base He knows how to do that.
- 12:00Speaker 5: You know, it's up around four eighty or five hundred
- 12:04Speaker 5: right now.
- 12:04Speaker 6: I didn't look the last minute, but he's been really
- 12:08Speaker 6: good and he's still gonna regress. But if he's a
- 12:10Speaker 6: three to sixty on base guy and getting in between
- 12:13Speaker 6: Keyshaw and Buxton and kind of setting the table, that's
- 12:16Speaker 6: that I think can be sustainable. You know, I don't
- 12:20Speaker 6: think we're gonna see brooks Lee hitting the way he has,
- 12:23Speaker 6: and he still needs to answer questions, but I think
- 12:26Speaker 6: you saw him get that first big hit Thursday against
- 12:30Speaker 6: Detroit and then had a nice weekend in Toronto.
- 12:32Speaker 5: Afterwards.
- 12:33Speaker 6: I think he's got a chance to come up and
- 12:34Speaker 6: show a little bit more. He showed power last year.
- 12:37Speaker 6: He's a really good fastball hitter. I could see that
- 12:42Speaker 6: definitely sustaining. But there's certainly some great stories going on
- 12:45Speaker 6: right now. Tristan Gray is thirty. Tristan Gray, you know,
- 12:49Speaker 6: I think as most oft bats in any season before
- 12:51Speaker 6: this was like ninety five. And he's got two homers,
- 12:54Speaker 6: eleven RBIs early on.
- 12:56Speaker 5: He's filled in nicely at shortstop. Is that sustainable?
- 12:59Speaker 6: We'll see thirty, you know, but guys definitely are buying
- 13:04Speaker 6: in and I think that allows them, that confidence allows
- 13:07Speaker 6: them to keep going until you know, you run into
- 13:10Speaker 6: a wall essentially, but it certainly could happen. I mean,
- 13:14Speaker 6: I don't think anybody saw this being the fifth best
- 13:16Speaker 6: offense in runs scored. You know, they need Matt Walner
- 13:20Speaker 6: to hit more, they need Trevor Larnak to keep going.
- 13:23Speaker 6: I do like Josh Bell's influence on those guys just
- 13:26Speaker 6: being a middle order bat. It does not have to
- 13:28Speaker 6: be a home run, it does not have to be
- 13:30Speaker 6: all or nothing. Josh Bell drops isn't afraid to parachute
- 13:34Speaker 6: a ball down the line and find a fine grass.
- 13:36Speaker 6: He's you know, a really professional hitter. I think that
- 13:39Speaker 6: influence will be great for some of the the other
- 13:42Speaker 6: guys they'd like to be middle order bats.
- 13:45Speaker 5: We'll see what Royce Lewis can do. The one thing
- 13:47Speaker 5: I like.
- 13:47Speaker 6: You know, he's on the aisle right now, but he
- 13:49Speaker 6: should be back in that Mets series and next week.
- 13:53Speaker 6: He has walked, i believe, twelve times so far. His
- 13:58Speaker 6: patience is through the roof. He's got a new swing going,
- 14:01Speaker 6: he's got a little more time to see pitches, and
- 14:04Speaker 6: we have not seen him do a ton of stuff.
- 14:06Speaker 6: At the bottom line, he's hitting eight and maybe it's
- 14:09Speaker 6: eight walks twelve k's, but look, he's the platform for
- 14:14Speaker 6: success is there with him. His walk rates tripled this
- 14:17Speaker 6: year and I think that you'll see him have a
- 14:20Speaker 6: chance to break out and move more towards the middle
- 14:22Speaker 6: to order as.
- 14:23Speaker 5: This season goes.
- 14:24Speaker 6: And if that happens, you know, looks the Twins need
- 14:28Speaker 6: three guys to really hit, without question, Buckston.
- 14:31Speaker 5: Keishaw, Royce Lewis. If you have those three.
- 14:33Speaker 6: Hitting, you have a shot, especially with the starting pitching
- 14:36Speaker 6: keeping them in games.
- 14:38Speaker 5: Will that happen?
- 14:39Speaker 6: We'll see Royce Lewis has had fourteen months of struggle
- 14:43Speaker 6: coming into this opening day, and it's been encouraging to
- 14:47Speaker 6: see what he's done so far. But there's definitely more
- 14:50Speaker 6: power there for him to tap into and figure out
- 14:53Speaker 6: that swing because he overhauled it entirely this offseason.
- 14:57Speaker 3: Hey, surprisingly for me, you mentioned Brian Brookston. He's the
- 15:00Speaker 3: all time leader of home runs at target Field. It
- 15:03Speaker 3: seems it doesn't seem like that eighty five. I know
- 15:05Speaker 3: it's only been there since what twenty ten, I think
- 15:08Speaker 3: was the first year in target Field, But.
- 15:09Speaker 2: Eighty five I thought I thought there would be a
- 15:12Speaker 2: I guess Morne wasn't thereon mauerd didn't hit any homers.
- 15:16Speaker 2: It just seems like eighty five is a really low number.
- 15:18Speaker 6: It is it is, you know, I think early on
- 15:21Speaker 6: Guard he said they were waiting for the concrete to
- 15:23Speaker 6: settle in and the ball would start traveling more.
- 15:26Speaker 2: I loved it here. I loved him.
- 15:28Speaker 5: I thought it was, yeah, it's got a great hitters.
- 15:30Speaker 5: I batters.
- 15:31Speaker 6: I like I think that you look at how it's
- 15:34Speaker 6: set up, it's a cool park.
- 15:36Speaker 5: We'll see. I mean, I think Josh Bell I want
- 15:39Speaker 5: to see what he can do.
- 15:40Speaker 6: This year because it feels like this is the first
- 15:41Speaker 6: time he played in Arizona a couple of years ago
- 15:44Speaker 6: at the end of the season. But this is a
- 15:46Speaker 6: chance to be in a non Kansas City, Washington Miami
- 15:50Speaker 6: Hitters park for him, and like, I want to.
- 15:53Speaker 5: See him attack it. I think Keishall can hit. We'll see.
- 15:56Speaker 5: I agree with you.
- 15:57Speaker 6: It's shockingly low number at eighty five for being a
- 16:01Speaker 6: fifteen year old park, but you know, it's probably the
- 16:05Speaker 6: way the franchise has always been built, which is you've
- 16:08Speaker 6: got young guys, you got about five or six year
- 16:10Speaker 6: window with them, and it hasn't been historically easy to
- 16:14Speaker 6: keep guys around here, so it's hard to build up
- 16:17Speaker 6: some of those totals. Buxton took a contract that in
- 16:20Speaker 6: twenty twenty one was seen as a win win for
- 16:23Speaker 6: both sides because you know his injury history leading up
- 16:27Speaker 6: to that. They couldn't afford to give him what he
- 16:30Speaker 6: projected to be worth, which was probably a two hundred
- 16:33Speaker 6: million dollar contract if he was healthy. But he took
- 16:36Speaker 6: seven years and one hundred million with all these performance escalators,
- 16:40Speaker 6: and it basically safeguarding against injury and that's allowed him
- 16:45Speaker 6: to stick around and he said it last night. He's
- 16:47Speaker 6: not done yet, so I expect that to be, you know,
- 16:50Speaker 6: in the one thirties.
- 16:52Speaker 5: He's got at least.
- 16:53Speaker 6: Three more years here, so he'll build it up and
- 16:56Speaker 6: it will be a high number. But it was Max
- 16:57Speaker 6: Kepler's eighty four before that, and you know we saw
- 17:00Speaker 6: with him, he took an extension, stayed around for a
- 17:03Speaker 6: little bit, but then eventually Max Kepler moved on. And
- 17:06Speaker 6: that's what a lot of guys have done over the years,
- 17:08Speaker 6: is they get to free agency and they move on.
- 17:10Speaker 5: So it's hard to accrue those stats.
- 17:12Speaker 2: Just cut our count too soon? Sorry, too soon. He
- 17:19Speaker 2: got popped, I know.
- 17:23Speaker 1: I'm just letting everyone know because some people probably forgot.
- 17:26Speaker 1: But he got popped for Royds. He goes for eds,
- 17:29Speaker 1: whatever drug of choice, for the pe.
- 17:32Speaker 2: Whatever the drug.
- 17:33Speaker 1: There are others. It's not always Royd. Testosterone is also
- 17:36Speaker 1: a thing. I don't remember which one truth is his,
- 17:38Speaker 1: but we tell it like it is on this show,
- 17:40Speaker 1: just like Dan does on Twin City's territory. We got
- 17:42Speaker 1: to jump, but Dan and Man, thank you for joining us.
- 17:45Speaker 1: Hopefully this continues. Kratz and I would love to eat
- 17:47Speaker 1: our words. I don't think a j thought they were
- 17:49Speaker 1: going to be good either, but well there's pretend like
- 17:51Speaker 1: he did. Dan, Thank you appreciate it than Twin City's territory.
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- 18:00Speaker 1: want to follow the ride for now Zach Pierce and
- 18:03Speaker 1: Tyler Dubby Workers and Dan Hayes running it on the
- 18:07Speaker 1: Ft Network