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30| Is Perfectionism Keeping You Stuck? How to Stop Overthinking and Finding Your Flow · The Wild Woman Within: Recover from Burnout & Achieve True Work-Life Balance Through Feminine Energy

• 0:01
  SPEAKER_03: Hi guys, welcome back, my little Fitsies, to the FITSIN project.
• 0:07
  SPEAKER_03: Oh man, I hope you had a great weekend and a great start to your week.
• 0:13
  SPEAKER_03: I will say my weekend was crazy.
• 0:18
  SPEAKER_03: Crazy, crazy.
• 0:19
  SPEAKER_03: I actually was in both Virginia and in Kentucky on foot.
• 0:25
  SPEAKER_03: And it's the wildest story.
• 0:27
  SPEAKER_03: I'll put it in another podcast a bit later.
• 0:31
  SPEAKER_03: But either way, just imagine me, first timer, 35-pound backpacking trip, 22 miles total, and what that did to my body and where it's at, like right now.
• 0:46
  SPEAKER_04: So anyway, um, that's not what today is about, but I just wanted to say happy weekend, right?
• 0:53
  SPEAKER_03: Like we all just get there.
• 0:55
  SPEAKER_03: But what I do want to bring to the table today is my good old pal Daniel Kane.
• 1:02
  SPEAKER_03: This guy is such a force.
• 1:07
  SPEAKER_03: Like he, his presence, his demeanor, like just him.
• 1:13
  SPEAKER_03: He is so freaking cool.
• 1:15
  SPEAKER_03: It was such a cool experience to get to talk with him, learn about him.
• 1:20
  SPEAKER_03: He's a singer-songwriter right here from central Kentucky, right in the heart of Stanford.
• 1:26
  SPEAKER_03: And man, he is gonna go places.
• 1:29
  SPEAKER_03: And I hope you stay to the very end because he's got a special something, something at the very end for all of the listeners to hear, because uh he's just like an angel.
• 1:40
  SPEAKER_03: So I hope you enjoy him as much as I did.
• 1:43
  SPEAKER_03: It was super cool, such a privilege to get to know him and his story.
• 1:50
  SPEAKER_03: So before you get started, before you go into it, I would also like to just shout out, I've been doing some things.
• 1:58
  SPEAKER_03: I know last week was the release of the Fits in Retreat and how that went.
• 2:04
  SPEAKER_03: I did a double podcast.
• 2:05
  SPEAKER_03: If you haven't gone and listened, I would so love for you to because it was just everything encompassed in what I'm doing here and how it announced our Fits in Revolution.
• 2:18
  SPEAKER_03: That's right, it's a revolution coming at you in 2026.
• 2:23
  SPEAKER_03: I have a wait list that you can sign up for in the show notes.
• 2:28
  SPEAKER_03: And also, if you're wondering, like, how am I this person?
• 2:34
  SPEAKER_03: I'm a project executive, I have a podcast, I'm in a mentorship, I have a full-time job, full-time family, planning a wedding, all of the things.
• 2:45
  SPEAKER_03: How am I spending a whole weekend going backpacking up in Kentucky and Virginia?
• 2:52
  SPEAKER_03: Well, it's easy, my friends.
• 2:55
  SPEAKER_03: I have um prioritized my my life.
• 2:58
  SPEAKER_03: That's just it.
• 2:59
  SPEAKER_03: It's that simple.
• 3:00
  SPEAKER_03: And I'm sharing that with you guys.
• 3:02
  SPEAKER_03: I've made the my very own fits-in signature quadrant, and it's in the show notes.
• 3:09
  SPEAKER_03: Please go get it.
• 3:10
  SPEAKER_03: It's fits in to prioritize, it's absolutely free.
• 3:14
  SPEAKER_03: I would love to help you find your way into doing everything you love, you know, like go find what you love to do and just go for it.
• 3:26
  SPEAKER_03: So this is a little freebie from me to you to help you strategize and prioritize and begin living the life you love because, like, we don't get another one, let's be honest.
• 3:38
  SPEAKER_03: But enough about me, enough about you.
• 3:41
  SPEAKER_03: Let's get in and meet Daniel Kane.
• 3:46
  SPEAKER_03: Hello, welcome back to the Fitzin' Project.
• 3:50
  SPEAKER_03: I'm your host, Rachel Fitzpatrick, and I have like the best voice that I've heard in Stanford, Kentucky, from Stanford, Kentucky.
• 3:58
  SPEAKER_03: Daniel Kane.
• 4:00
  SPEAKER_03: Welcome.
• 4:03
  SPEAKER_01: Thank you.
• 4:04
  SPEAKER_01: Hey everybody.
• 4:06
  SPEAKER_01: Hello.
• 4:08
  SPEAKER_03: Hello, hello, hello.
• 4:10
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 4:11
  SPEAKER_03: Oh, I'm so glad you're here and welcome.
• 4:14
  SPEAKER_03: I just absolutely adore you.
• 4:16
  SPEAKER_03: I adore your family.
• 4:18
  SPEAKER_03: Uh grew up with you, around you.
• 4:21
  SPEAKER_03: I was a bit older than you, but like I grew up with your older sister.
• 4:24
  SPEAKER_03: So I feel like I've known you like for forever.
• 4:27
  SPEAKER_03: And um, one of the biggest running jokes is like when you were my son's age, who's he's four now, and your mom and I were about the same height, and she might be a little bit smaller than me, but it was so funny because like we just remember this imprint image of her carrying you, and you all are like the same size, and but you're four.
• 4:48
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, that's funny, and I believe it.
• 4:51
  SPEAKER_00: So that's cool.
• 4:53
  SPEAKER_00: There's pictures of me being that big and like just being like working on mom like a koala.
• 5:00
  SPEAKER_04: Hold you, yes.
• 5:03
  SPEAKER_03: Oh man, so tell us about yourself.
• 5:06
  SPEAKER_03: Like, what's going on in Daniel Kane's world?
• 5:09
  SPEAKER_00: Shoot.
• 5:09
  SPEAKER_00: Uh Daniel Kane's world, it is filled with faith, family, and music right now.
• 5:16
  SPEAKER_00: Travel, stress, whole lot of fun.
• 5:18
  SPEAKER_00: Um, yeah, just all those things.
• 5:21
  SPEAKER_00: Food, definitely a lot of food.
• 5:23
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I've been lucky to eat so much good food lately.
• 5:28
  SPEAKER_03: Oh, I feel so much, there's so much humbleness coming from you, like right now.
• 5:33
  SPEAKER_03: Like you're just like, yeah, just all these great things, food, nourishing the body.
• 5:39
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, yeah, I don't know.
• 5:42
  SPEAKER_00: I may be a little bashful sometimes, but hey, are we all?
• 5:46
  SPEAKER_03: Are we all?
• 5:47
  SPEAKER_00: But I'm gonna open book.
• 5:50
  SPEAKER_03: I'm glad because I mean that's what we're all here for, is to share how great life can be and give different perspectives of different ways.
• 5:59
  SPEAKER_00: Absolutely.
• 6:00
  SPEAKER_00: I just thought about it because I like alliterations.
• 6:02
  SPEAKER_00: Faith, Family, Food, the Fits In Project.
• 6:06
  SPEAKER_03: Ooh, I believe that's gonna be the title now of this whole podcast.
• 6:11
  SPEAKER_03: So thanks.
• 6:12
  SPEAKER_03: Oh no, you took the brain work right out of it.
• 6:15
  SPEAKER_01: I'll do the I'll do the voiceover if you want then.
• 6:18
  SPEAKER_03: Uh yeah, actually, I'm gonna hire that out.
• 6:22
  SPEAKER_03: There it is.
• 6:23
  SPEAKER_03: All right, so tell us um what is your story, man?
• 6:28
  SPEAKER_03: Like, how did you get into your music and your path?
• 6:32
  SPEAKER_03: I'm really so anxious to hear it.
• 6:35
  SPEAKER_03: And I know, I know, I know that our listeners would be too for sure.
• 6:40
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 6:41
  SPEAKER_00: Well, um, you know, my path right now, if there's any listeners who are new to anything about me, and I would assume there might probably more than not.
• 6:53
  SPEAKER_00: Um I'm a musician.
• 6:56
  SPEAKER_00: Um I'm working on my first record.
• 7:00
  SPEAKER_00: Um, hopefully gonna be a good release, and keep paving the path of of making a life through my own songs and um connecting with audiences and traveling.
• 7:12
  SPEAKER_00: And so that's what I do.
• 7:14
  SPEAKER_00: Um I was born into that in a lot of ways, uh, is how I'd say my story started.
• 7:20
  SPEAKER_00: Um, my family was very musical when I was growing up in Stanford, Kentucky.
• 7:26
  SPEAKER_00: Dad ran Main Street music.
• 7:28
  SPEAKER_00: Um, I don't know if you ever went in there.
• 7:30
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, I did.
• 7:31
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 7:31
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 7:32
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 7:32
  SPEAKER_00: So dad ran the guitar store down on Main Street, and um, you know, you knew mom, obviously, she was a teacher, but she was great singer, still is, she just won't sing, but she was in the in the choir growing up.
• 7:45
  SPEAKER_03: I don't think I knew that.
• 7:46
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, so I was a kid watching her perform for the Angels and God on Sunday, and then um dad was, you know, Friday and Saturday night for the honky tonks and the clubs and all that.
• 8:00
  SPEAKER_00: So I didn't get to see a lot of that as a kid, but he was always practicing for about an hour before he left for the gig in the living room, and he was always really good at entertaining us kids.
• 8:10
  SPEAKER_00: You know, one thing I I'm a super side note tangential guy, I just let you know.
• 8:17
  SPEAKER_00: But one thing I remember that just came up was when dad was um playing those songs, and I was like the first time he'd show me, like he'd be intense because he was excited.
• 8:27
  SPEAKER_00: And well, to my like kid aura nervous system, body, soul, it was super intense to hear music like right there, right in front of me.
• 8:37
  SPEAKER_00: And so, like, you know, my dad had a big booming voice, and he could really make that guitar just like he could beat it like it owes him money, and uh, and he'd be playing like some blue song or something.
• 8:50
  SPEAKER_00: Will I work hard for the money?
• 8:52
  SPEAKER_00: Like he could do something like that, and it would just be so intense.
• 8:55
  SPEAKER_00: And I just remember the point I'm saying that is I remember my first reactions and my first emotions as a kid to the music was fear, it scared me.
• 9:06
  SPEAKER_00: It wasn't like I was running away, wasn't like I was like cowering in some form, but I just remember being like it was stunning in that way.
• 9:15
  SPEAKER_00: Stunning, I would just be like, you know, and and not every kid does that.
• 9:19
  SPEAKER_00: I've played for it in front of some kids now, and they'll just like sometimes walk up and just start hitting the strings while you're playing and crawl all over you, you know.
• 9:27
  SPEAKER_00: And and for me, it just always paralyzed me.
• 9:30
  SPEAKER_00: And I would just be like, I just remember, I can remember that.
• 9:33
  SPEAKER_00: I don't know.
• 9:34
  SPEAKER_00: I just wanted to say that.
• 9:35
  SPEAKER_03: That is so cool.
• 9:37
  SPEAKER_03: I remember your dad and your dad's voice, and he was this like presence that just like this the nicest person ever.
• 9:46
  SPEAKER_03: So my brother had a um paper route, and we delivered papers all over Stanford, all over town, and I got to tag along with him.
• 9:56
  SPEAKER_03: So I got we'd go in there almost every day and drop off this paper.
• 9:59
  SPEAKER_03: So I knew your dad like more than I knew like the rest of your family, I feel like, like going into the store.
• 10:05
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, like you just never know what's going on that day.
• 10:08
  SPEAKER_03: But totally, but yeah, it was super cool, and I remember he was just always just the nicest, nicest man.
• 10:17
  SPEAKER_03: But he had this voice, like this I mean, beautiful, angelic man voice, you know.
• 10:26
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I can remember uh his voice always being arresting for sure, just in general.
• 10:31
  SPEAKER_00: I've lately I've been getting told feedback like that, like I'll hear the same things that people would say about dad, and that's an honor, you know, with him being gone, and it feels good and and griefy, you know, it's a feeling, it's deep.
• 10:45
  SPEAKER_00: But like my own manager, he was just telling me I've been in the studio the past two weeks or two weeks ago for the for a week, and uh I was like just telling him, like, yeah, like uh man, like I don't know if my voice is like being like like I feel like I'm quiet or something like that.
• 11:07
  SPEAKER_00: And uh he was like, Daniel, you don't have to even say much.
• 11:11
  SPEAKER_00: You have such a big voice, like you're probably just used to hearing yourself, but like I promise you, no one else is ever gonna say that.
• 11:19
  SPEAKER_00: And I was like, okay.
• 11:20
  SPEAKER_00: And then um we had like an interview with the guy who's my producer right now, and before all that happened, and he was my manager was telling me he was like, because I was I I really I'll just say this I really look up to the guy that I'm working with, and like kind of having the chance to work with one of my heroes right now, and that's been its you know, that's even another thing.
• 11:41
  SPEAKER_00: And and I remember the first interview, I was like probably starting to like you know drag on a bit because I'm like, I get to talk to one of my freaking like musical heroes right now, and then after the call, he's like, dude, like you're like awesome, but less is more when you're doing business and you have such a big voice, you don't have to say so much, you'll dominate a conversation.
• 12:06
  SPEAKER_00: And I was like, damn.
• 12:08
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, that's a good point.
• 12:10
  SPEAKER_03: It is true, it is true.
• 12:12
  SPEAKER_03: So one of the first things, so uh we went to the free music festival in Stanford where you were performing a couple I guess a month now.
• 12:22
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, what uh it's been a month now, I guess.
• 12:24
  SPEAKER_03: Like Wilderness Roads Music Festival 250 years been here.
• 12:31
  SPEAKER_03: So when I had a couple friends are from out of town, like one of them uh originally from California and the other originally from Mass.
• 12:39
  SPEAKER_03: And they came in and they were the they don't I don't know they've ever actually either of them been to a just like small town like thing, like such, you know, like we're just the whole community's out and we're all listening to bluegrass and whatever.
• 12:55
  SPEAKER_03: But then you come up on stage and you start seeing, and they were like, Is this the guy that you wanted us to see?
• 13:01
  SPEAKER_03: I'm like, Yeah, like this is the Daniel Kane, like this is the guy.
• 13:06
  SPEAKER_03: And they were both like, his voice though is amazing, like it was so captivating.
• 13:13
  SPEAKER_03: And I just will never forget like their first impression of just hearing you, like it was just like this guy's good, you know.
• 13:20
  SPEAKER_03: I'm like, I know.
• 13:22
  SPEAKER_00: Well, that's really a kind to hear, and I'm very appreciative, and you know, it's crazy because I never played, you know, that I never played a talent show in hot school.
• 13:32
  SPEAKER_00: I never played, I never sang really in front of a crowd until I was like 19 or 20, I think, for the first time ever.
• 13:40
  SPEAKER_00: So it's still crazy to know that like people have a warm reception and welcoming anymore and anymore, you know, doing my thing, and and so that feels really good.
• 13:50
  SPEAKER_00: But that's awesome.
• 13:52
  SPEAKER_00: It's conflicting.
• 13:53
  SPEAKER_00: Um, I'm like, I'm not supposed to feel good about that.
• 13:56
  SPEAKER_00: I don't know why.
• 13:57
  SPEAKER_00: I just but it does, it does feel good.
• 14:00
  SPEAKER_04: Absolutely.
• 14:01
  SPEAKER_00: That festival uh was so awesome.
• 14:05
  SPEAKER_00: I just really am appreciative to be a part of that.
• 14:07
  SPEAKER_00: Dad, I don't know if you remember this, but dad organized and hosted the Stanford Bluegrass Festival in We were kids right across the street at the LN Depot.
• 14:17
  SPEAKER_03: I did not know that.
• 14:19
  SPEAKER_00: So that was really cool, and it felt kind of special just on that end because, like, you know, I one thing I feel like since he passed is whether I'm supposed to or not, people have told me I'm not supposed to, and and I I think they're saying that out of love, but like I do feel like I'm supposed to feel his boots in some form and like a calling, not like uh I don't want to.
• 14:44
  SPEAKER_00: It's like I just that's what I gotta do.
• 14:46
  SPEAKER_00: And so these little things have been like awesome for me to like like the first time I got that feeling in Stanford was when like Lee Singhorn wanted to have me on the radio to talk about the music, and then I got invited to do the chambers banquet uh and sing the national anthem, which I don't know if they should have had me sing the national anthem in hindsight.
• 15:06
  SPEAKER_06: I was like, what's the words on first laugh out?
• 15:11
  SPEAKER_00: I like it.
• 15:12
  SPEAKER_05: I love America, but America's great, America's best.
• 15:18
  SPEAKER_00: But but this was really special.
• 15:21
  SPEAKER_00: I feel like it just felt like I don't know, there's it's you're right.
• 15:24
  SPEAKER_00: I think it's been a month, and there's something about this whole past 30 days I've been living that feels like I'm I mean, I don't take any credit for it.
• 15:35
  SPEAKER_00: I just feel blessed, but I feel like I'm kind of stepping into my own right now a little more, a little less scratching my head right now, and a little more like feeling uh like I'm my own authority.
• 15:47
  SPEAKER_00: I don't want it over other people, but I have my own authority, I feel like, with what I'm doing.
• 15:52
  SPEAKER_00: And that feels really good.
• 15:53
  SPEAKER_03: I love that.
• 15:54
  SPEAKER_03: I want to get back to that, what you just said, if you don't mind, going and filling up filling or walking in your dad's shoes or making that whole thing.
• 16:02
  SPEAKER_03: What did you say?
• 16:03
  SPEAKER_03: You you had to fill his shoes and make sure you go into the music, like to I don't know, maybe fill his dream.
• 16:11
  SPEAKER_03: If was that where you were going with that?
• 16:14
  SPEAKER_00: Part of it for sure.
• 16:15
  SPEAKER_00: Part of it's that I feel like dad left a big hole in the community when he passed.
• 16:20
  SPEAKER_00: Of I mean, I still have people after my show.
• 16:24
  SPEAKER_00: I'm not saying I mean, like the Gillam family has been amazing to be to touch the community with music.
• 16:29
  SPEAKER_00: Um I don't even want to maybe I shouldn't say names because I don't want anyone to feel left out.
• 16:35
  SPEAKER_00: Shane White, Mike Archer, there's John Waters.
• 16:38
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, there's a ton of people from dad's generation that are like still around and still like do a ton, like helping people like playing their own music, like just sharing the gift of music, I'll put it like that.
• 16:51
  SPEAKER_00: But I feel like the one thing that I do always get, like uh I just went to Frizzell guitars today.
• 16:56
  SPEAKER_00: Well, Brandon Edwards from Lincoln, he runs that down in Danville.
• 17:00
  SPEAKER_00: And um he's doing he's gonna work on one of my guitars right now.
• 17:05
  SPEAKER_00: And uh I just walked in and like he just I don't know, he's just like, You're one of my favorite people.
• 17:10
  SPEAKER_00: Your dad sold me my first guitar, taught me my first chords.
• 17:13
  SPEAKER_00: You uh he said, I'm being dead serious, man.
• 17:16
  SPEAKER_00: Nobody brings up anyone else more than Jeff Kane and talks about how good of a man he was.
• 17:20
  SPEAKER_00: Kind of the same echo you just said, and that feels really good to hear, but uh once again, like truly, like on one end, it's it's that dad left a big hole.
• 17:29
  SPEAKER_00: There's a big hole there that I never want to abandon.
• 17:33
  SPEAKER_00: I actually feel like it's like cool, I'm I'm blessed to be still around here and yeah, be able to make a life through music because we have technology and that can be a pro of it.
• 17:42
  SPEAKER_00: Like, we don't have to move to a city to market one thing now.
• 17:46
  SPEAKER_03: And thank God yeah, like thank God.
• 17:49
  SPEAKER_00: Um that's one piece of it of filling his boots, is that like I just want to still be like whatever presence dad had, I would like to do that to the best of my ability.
• 18:01
  SPEAKER_00: Uh, and then the other half is exactly what you said.
• 18:04
  SPEAKER_00: Um, I do dad I sensed that dad had a dream that he didn't live out, a leg of his dream, which was like writing his own albums and doing the thing worldwide and stuff like that.
• 18:20
  SPEAKER_00: And he accidentally fostered that dream in me because it was projecting from him.
• 18:26
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 18:27
  SPEAKER_00: That's how confusing my raising was with music was he was like, Don't be a musician, uh, all the time.
• 18:32
  SPEAKER_00: He didn't want he was like, I'll teach you guitar.
• 18:35
  SPEAKER_00: In fact, when just the real me's coming out, you're gonna know how much it's just that's the thing, man.
• 18:41
  SPEAKER_00: And then it was like all of a sudden he'd be like, you know what I mean?
• 18:44
  SPEAKER_00: Like snap back into whatever reality.
• 18:46
  SPEAKER_00: And and then that came to fruition for real when um when he was close to passing, he saw that I was doing music now, and part of that was that I was gonna do it for him because I was doing it for me, I was doing it for us.
• 19:04
  SPEAKER_00: It was like me and him had this weird kind of rough bond at the time.
• 19:08
  SPEAKER_00: I was a really, really, really stubborn, egotistical young 20-year-old male who thought I was hot.
• 19:15
  SPEAKER_00: I thought I was hot, like stuff.
• 19:17
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, it was just that, and I was I was cocky.
• 19:21
  SPEAKER_00: I was like, I would punch myself in the face right now, probably if I could like see myself, and he'd be like, What's up to me?
• 19:27
  SPEAKER_00: And I'd be like, you know, like get it together.
• 19:30
  SPEAKER_00: But dad was trying to get it together for me at times, and I just saw that as like, oh, he just hates me, he doesn't want me to win, type stuff.
• 19:38
  SPEAKER_00: I'm sure this is a thing fathers and sons go through a lot, so that's why I feel a little more comfortable talking about it.
• 19:44
  SPEAKER_00: But so one of the biggest things was dad saw I was hell bent on music no matter what.
• 19:49
  SPEAKER_00: And so when he got sick, I think a lot changed in his heart about how hard core he looked at life of this earthly world and what it is and the risks we take and why not instead of why.
• 20:05
  SPEAKER_00: He was more like why, and then he changed to why not a little.
• 20:09
  SPEAKER_00: And so he had to talk with me about like oh, kind of gave me the approval that I can do this, which is one of the biggest things I was able to get from him that flipped a light switch for me, uh, kind of like broke down some of this learned helplessness I felt with it.
• 20:25
  SPEAKER_00: And the other half was another conversation closer when he passed, was he straight up told me, you know, I do have some, like he kind of voiced some regrets about what he didn't do, and uh that I think he saw where I was just like maybe received rejection somewhere, and instead of it letting it crush me, I was just like, Well, them.
• 20:50
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 20:52
  SPEAKER_00: And then he told me, like, he actually let rejection from Nashville in like the 80s crush him once, and he like never told me this growing up, and um but he was like, Yeah, I sent some songs down to Nashville, and basically I got told no one time, and I just said, There's that, and he just went.
• 21:08
  SPEAKER_00: So he said to me, He says, I'm telling you this because maybe there is a different way, and maybe I don't know the best, and I want I want you to do what you think's best because you're doing it right now, and that is like talk about a humbleness that it takes for a stubborn, proud, amazing, but stubborn and proud man.
• 21:30
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and um to do that was huge, and uh that was a huge thing.
• 21:38
  SPEAKER_00: Like, I don't know.
• 21:38
  SPEAKER_00: That's the other angle of yeah, feeling his feeling his boots is like I I want to do what dad wanted to do.
• 21:44
  SPEAKER_00: That is a huge part of it.
• 21:46
  SPEAKER_03: That's a big thing though.
• 21:47
  SPEAKER_03: I mean, the fact that you even want to do that, I think it's such a compliment.
• 21:52
  SPEAKER_03: Like the biggest form of um flattery is like someone's mocking you, you know?
• 21:58
  SPEAKER_03: Like, and I feel like that is such a compliment to his life, but also to yours, where you feel comfortable taking that on and you feel confident in yourself being able to take on um your own musician and your own um skills and your own gift, and the fact that you guys shared that, where it wasn't you were taking his, you shared it, you know?
• 22:24
  SPEAKER_03: And that's such a special thing.
• 22:26
  SPEAKER_03: And I think some of the things that like you say um about filling the shoes and stuff like that.
• 22:33
  SPEAKER_03: I heard once from I think it was my mentor, Kathy Hiller, which I mentioned her in almost every podcast because she's bees knees.
• 22:42
  SPEAKER_06: But anyway, yeah, that's awesome.
• 22:44
  SPEAKER_03: She said in one of our mentorships, she was basically like, you know, you doing what your soul came to do, and you are having fun and you are living out your dream.
• 22:54
  SPEAKER_03: You by you doing that just by yourself, you're living out all of your ancestors' dreams, all of your for you, like your grandfathers and fathers before you, and for me, like my grandmothers and mothers before me.
• 23:06
  SPEAKER_03: But it's like taking this liberation and just like breaking the wall down because you can, and it's fun, like it's it's more like why not?
• 23:18
  SPEAKER_00: Like you said, just like that.
• 23:20
  SPEAKER_00: And like I respect um, you know, my dad's path.
• 23:24
  SPEAKER_00: I believe that my current system of belief, I'll just give that deep, is that like um God's will is wherever you meet it, you could go on your own dime for 99% of the time, and then God's will's right there if you want to go that way.
• 23:42
  SPEAKER_00: And and so, as trippy as this may sound, I believe that no matter what happens, whether we die with once and eat.
• 23:50
  SPEAKER_00: I don't believe anyone dies without going like, wish I did that.
• 23:53
  SPEAKER_00: I'm sure I mean if you get the chance to think before you go, then I'm I think that's human and natural no matter what.
• 24:01
  SPEAKER_00: I bet if my dad went another way, because I think back then it was a lot harder to think about managing a family that you started really young.
• 24:10
  SPEAKER_00: Which my mom and dad started a family young.
• 24:12
  SPEAKER_00: They were 19 when they had Andrea.
• 24:14
  SPEAKER_00: And and back then it is different.
• 24:17
  SPEAKER_00: I just really think it was, and I don't blame him, and I do think in a lot of ways he was just like, I think he felt a sense of what was really important for his life and dutifulness, and that was to emphasize being a family man, and and the way he told me was he was like, you know, because this was his understanding, he said, you know, music is my vocation.
• 24:42
  SPEAKER_00: He says, but artistry is my advocation, which is like I think it's like kind of like one's a secondary, or maybe I've said them backwards, but he said that to me at some point, and he kind of was like, look at it like that.
• 24:57
  SPEAKER_00: And I was just like, that doesn't do it for me.
• 24:58
  SPEAKER_00: I was like, nope, I'm gonna be an artist.
• 25:01
  SPEAKER_03: That's what I was so he would advocate for artists, he just didn't want to be what maybe he wanted just to be like a musician.
• 25:11
  SPEAKER_03: Is that right?
• 25:12
  SPEAKER_03: Did I get that backwards?
• 25:14
  SPEAKER_00: Well, no, his voc, like like his vocation was running the shop, teaching lessons, you know what I mean, and and that mainly.
• 25:21
  SPEAKER_00: I'm talking about even music, like music was his vocation, that was his career.
• 25:26
  SPEAKER_00: But the artist side of it, the performing him on the stage was his secondary to him.
• 25:32
  SPEAKER_00: It was what he was he advocated, yes, but it was his advocation to himself as well.
• 25:38
  SPEAKER_00: And I think he kind of was like, if you want to go into music, like you should look at it more like the business, like run a guitar shop and stuff like that.
• 25:44
  SPEAKER_00: And that's awesome.
• 25:46
  SPEAKER_00: And I think that we like if I if we didn't have guitar shops, I couldn't go be an artist.
• 25:50
  SPEAKER_00: Like that's one thing.
• 25:51
  SPEAKER_00: Like, it's not that I think one's more necessary or above, but in my individual calling, it was just like, nope, my vocation is I'm gonna be a traveling artist, like that's what I'm gonna do and make music and and release it.
• 26:05
  SPEAKER_00: That's awesome.
• 26:07
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I I get to rambling a little too, but uh no, that makes so much sense because like I'm very much like you need the in the business of yourself, like being part of the whole fits in project, like we're all in this like ecosystem of our own selves, and this is where we get to have our balance and like even being in the right now.
• 26:31
  SPEAKER_03: We're in Libra season, like even being in Libra season and having our balance and going in from the business side and then like your passionate side.
• 26:39
  SPEAKER_03: And I try to create that and marry the two in my business no matter what, like whether I'm doing that as a professional, as like I'm a project executive as a professional, but as like my passion is this podcast because it gets to like illuminate some of this like stuff that may just look sticky and stuffy and all the stuff and just like break it down and throw it out the window.
• 27:02
  SPEAKER_03: And then like the yoga side, you know, like bringing that piece into it, and it kind of like brings a whole realm of the mind, body, soul.
• 27:11
  SPEAKER_03: But I feel like when you're in your actual you're going out and you're gonna be a traveling artist, you also have something on the side that you probably really like to do as well.
• 27:21
  SPEAKER_03: That's on the flip, you know.
• 27:24
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, you know, I really resonate with what you just said about uh passion and business and all the things like that's what drew me so much into uh music and art was I went art is the most primal in my head, the most primal entrepreneurial endeavor devil that exists within our within our species.
• 27:49
  SPEAKER_00: Because like music is it's or art in different forms, it's genuinely like I don't know, and maybe it's just BS, but in my head, something about performing, a performance, I'll put it like that.
• 28:07
  SPEAKER_00: A performance is like the merriment of art and and business.
• 28:13
  SPEAKER_00: It is the performance like and it doesn't mean um just me playing a song on a stage as a performance, but like a performance.
• 28:20
  SPEAKER_00: Like my mom like rehearsed, she um ended up doing like these traveling conferences, teaching teachers how to teach, basically, you know, for a while.
• 28:30
  SPEAKER_00: She worked for the educational co-op and did things like that, and like I watched her put hours into talking to her to the air to get her stuff right.
• 28:39
  SPEAKER_00: That's rehearsal, that's a performance, okay.
• 28:42
  SPEAKER_00: Like, and then the business is that she's part of this and she's doing that, but the performance is an art.
• 28:48
  SPEAKER_00: That's what I saw there, and I see it in everything.
• 28:51
  SPEAKER_00: I think that my manager he is an artist as a manager because he puts himself into it.
• 28:58
  SPEAKER_00: It is or it puts pulls him in.
• 29:01
  SPEAKER_00: I don't know, it's both.
• 29:02
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, it's like a flow state, right?
• 29:04
  SPEAKER_03: You get into this when you're on stage and you're doing your art and that is your business, but you're in a total flow.
• 29:12
  SPEAKER_03: Like you're not thinking about what I'm thinking about.
• 29:15
  SPEAKER_03: You're singing, and your heart is totally in expansion mode.
• 29:19
  SPEAKER_03: Like that is art.
• 29:22
  SPEAKER_03: You can see it from the crowd.
• 29:23
  SPEAKER_03: You can see it when you're out there following your favorite performer.
• 29:27
  SPEAKER_03: It's art like that when I'm teaching a yoga class.
• 29:30
  SPEAKER_03: Or I tell you what, I'm reeling right now because I just got back from my own yoga retreat this past weekend, and I'm just like, that was art.
• 29:39
  SPEAKER_03: Like, you know, that was just so much beauty.
• 29:43
  SPEAKER_03: Rehearsed it over and over in my head, but nothing would come out until it's like free flow.
• 29:49
  SPEAKER_00: Until it's time.
• 29:50
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 29:50
  SPEAKER_00: It's why, like, I gosh, man, you actually make like, um, I can't even probably just gotta table it because, but just know that these are.
• 30:00
  SPEAKER_00: Like helping me on things that I'm like morseling over in my own life right now.
• 30:06
  SPEAKER_04: It's recorded so you can always come back to it.
• 30:10
  SPEAKER_04: It'll be out.
• 30:11
  SPEAKER_00: Well, it's just like, I mean, I'm like, how would I even say that?
• 30:14
  SPEAKER_00: But like uh, yeah, that's why I say it.
• 30:17
  SPEAKER_00: I got a tablet, but it's gonna at least that'll be there for me.
• 30:22
  SPEAKER_00: For me, it'll be there for me at the release.
• 30:25
  SPEAKER_03: Exactly.
• 30:26
  SPEAKER_03: Oh, yeah.
• 30:27
  SPEAKER_03: I have a buddy who just his name is uh Matt McBride.
• 30:31
  SPEAKER_03: He works with Create More Mess, and that's his Instagram handle, but he created this gorgeous, gorgeous Phoenix.
• 30:41
  SPEAKER_03: I wish it's right here, actually.
• 30:43
  SPEAKER_03: I'll go get it in a second, but it's just like the most beautiful art piece that I've seen.
• 30:50
  SPEAKER_03: And and I think it was because like you could feel the energy behind it where he put in the time and the love and all of the things for the weekend that we just had.
• 31:02
  SPEAKER_03: And it was bizarre because we no one knew that it would be like the totem to for the weekend, you know, that we would go always go see it and we feel it, like looking at it.
• 31:12
  SPEAKER_03: Everybody's like, well, but it was just this amazing thing.
• 31:16
  SPEAKER_03: And I feel like no matter what, if it's like paint, if it's voice, if it's you're moving your body, I mean, there's pottery, all sorts of things are coming.
• 31:25
  SPEAKER_03: But it's like there is a free flow that it is a divine intervention that you just like have zero control over.
• 31:34
  SPEAKER_00: Absolutely.
• 31:34
  SPEAKER_00: It's like where I can find God in a way.
• 31:37
  SPEAKER_00: Um, that's okay.
• 31:39
  SPEAKER_00: Finally, rem you reminded me by saying that kind of where I was wanting to go with how I'm seeing what we're talking about is like like I sometimes I care a lot that I need to be like practicing.
• 31:53
  SPEAKER_00: I'll put it like that.
• 31:54
  SPEAKER_00: Uh but sometimes, and that's as most as I get that way, most of the time I don't if I can't access a shade of that free flow feeling when I'm practicing, I don't.
• 32:13
  SPEAKER_00: I'll try.
• 32:14
  SPEAKER_00: Don't get me wrong, I'll at least let myself I'll I'll do the work to at least approach it and see if if I'm there.
• 32:21
  SPEAKER_00: But one thing I can't force is that I can't force that I'll show up to the guitar in my spirit if or the pen or the camera or the mic or whatever, or the design.
• 32:38
  SPEAKER_00: I do my graphic design, all of it.
• 32:40
  SPEAKER_00: The email, any of it.
• 32:41
  SPEAKER_00: If I can't show up in my spirit, I can't.
• 32:45
  SPEAKER_00: I cannot.
• 32:47
  SPEAKER_00: I just can't.
• 32:48
  SPEAKER_03: Like, yeah, no, that is so like ironic because it's I feel the same way.
• 32:55
  SPEAKER_03: Like it's just like that.
• 32:57
  SPEAKER_00: I'll try sometimes, like, because it's like this conundrum of like I'll because I also push myself and I'll say, All right, just because you don't feel like getting in the gym today, you sometimes you gotta start pushing the boulder before you find the motivation.
• 33:10
  SPEAKER_00: Like, I do believe in that.
• 33:13
  SPEAKER_00: So I believe that sometimes you gotta get in the form to let the energy start to flow in that way.
• 33:18
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
• 33:20
  SPEAKER_00: But you don't have to do it too long before you realize if you're forcing it or not, if that makes any sense.
• 33:26
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 33:27
  SPEAKER_03: So when you're in this and you're uh trying to find that flow state, basically.
• 33:32
  SPEAKER_03: So let's just call it that.
• 33:34
  SPEAKER_03: So it's like your flow state, and it's not happening for you.
• 33:38
  SPEAKER_03: Is there a mantra or something that you stick to?
• 33:42
  SPEAKER_03: Or let's say for me, for example, I've I like opening my yoga sessions with an ohm, and I don't like closing it with an ohm.
• 33:50
  SPEAKER_03: But also like if I'm doing a coaching session, I have to light an incense candle, and it just brings it in, and it's like setting a sensory for me.
• 34:00
  SPEAKER_03: Do you do that?
• 34:00
  SPEAKER_00: But it helps me.
• 34:01
  SPEAKER_00: I love not I mean, I burn Nog Jumpa, except that I've read that it like could be bad for small dogs, so we don't really in the house much anymore because we have a little cute dog, but uh um, but I I understand what you're talking about.
• 34:16
  SPEAKER_00: Uh a lot of times I've like would light incense when I was like just trying to like produce music and make beats and stuff when I was younger, and that would get me into a a state for sure.
• 34:29
  SPEAKER_00: Um I'm always seeking, and I don't think I have a lot of a lot of patterns like that.
• 34:38
  SPEAKER_00: Uh if anything, the patterns I have that are like more than a decade old are toxic ones, and I've been trying to break them lately.
• 34:46
  SPEAKER_00: So where I'm at.
• 34:47
  SPEAKER_05: I love that.
• 34:48
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 34:49
  SPEAKER_00: So, but like the biggest thing I've been developing for me has honestly been praying.
• 34:56
  SPEAKER_00: Um, and and so I've realized that, and this isn't like I never want to be someone that's like trying to shove things down people's throats.
• 35:07
  SPEAKER_00: I'm just talking purely from my own individual perspective.
• 35:11
  SPEAKER_00: Um, and I've been one to be like, hey, I feel this way, and then six months later I'll be like, I don't even know who that guy was.
• 35:19
  SPEAKER_00: Like, I just I like to I'm an earnest truth seeker, and truth can be a capital T or a lowercase T a lot.
• 35:28
  SPEAKER_00: Like, but I'm I'm I'm earnest and I'm always just trying to seek things.
• 35:31
  SPEAKER_00: So I I mean things can change, but lately I have really been finding that like I can set the table for my life in a lot of ways by giving up setting the table to God.
• 35:47
  SPEAKER_03: So like uh yeah, go on.
• 35:51
  SPEAKER_00: So for me, that's been praying, and like I'll just tell you in my real life how good there's a certain place I go to in town.
• 35:57
  SPEAKER_00: I don't want to tell everyone, and then they might go take my spot.
• 36:01
  SPEAKER_00: But there's a place I'll go to, and I go on a walk, and I put my phone in my car, and I lock the door, and I just take the key fob, and I just start walking, and I just talk, and I just start talking and letting the things come out.
• 36:15
  SPEAKER_00: I just start actually letting the like my therapist is the spirit in the air, you know.
• 36:21
  SPEAKER_00: And yeah, uh, that's just been really helping me a lot lately.
• 36:26
  SPEAKER_00: Um, it's been setting the table.
• 36:28
  SPEAKER_00: I don't know how else to say it.
• 36:29
  SPEAKER_03: No, I love that.
• 36:30
  SPEAKER_00: It's been helping me stay in a flow state.
• 36:32
  SPEAKER_00: I think that's what I'm trying to tie it back to.
• 36:34
  SPEAKER_00: Is like um it's been helping me find it's been letting things come to me.
• 36:41
  SPEAKER_00: I don't feel like I'm seeking by it's like I'm seeking by choosing not to seek.
• 36:46
  SPEAKER_00: It's weird, it's so ironic.
• 36:48
  SPEAKER_03: It's how it works.
• 36:49
  SPEAKER_03: It's like that that is the literal key.
• 36:53
  SPEAKER_03: That is the key to it.
• 36:55
  SPEAKER_03: All of it.
• 36:56
  SPEAKER_03: Like you have it's just be.
• 36:58
  SPEAKER_00: You're just being.
• 36:59
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 37:00
  SPEAKER_00: So like a good example is right now.
• 37:05
  SPEAKER_00: I came back from these two weeks of traveling, and just I'm being, and this thing just and it was on my phone, and it good things can come to you through your algorithm as much as they're also toxic and evil.
• 37:19
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 37:20
  SPEAKER_00: So, you know, we and it's fair.
• 37:23
  SPEAKER_00: I gripe a lot about stuff like that.
• 37:25
  SPEAKER_00: But I was scrolling and I just saw this thing, and I and I I don't I don't want to say it's a you know, we can pick apart anything, right?
• 37:34
  SPEAKER_00: I know I can pick apart a lot of the statements that are helping me right now, and I can, but what's the point?
• 37:42
  SPEAKER_00: Um, at the end of the day, it just to make things bad, like so, you know, we have that power.
• 37:49
  SPEAKER_00: And so this thing came and it said, um, delayed decision making is a symptom of impoverished living, and it's a way to keep you in poverty, and it's a delayed decision making.
• 38:04
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, and I don't think that might be for everybody, but for me, that hit so hard because I'm the type talking about setting my own table.
• 38:17
  SPEAKER_00: When I get into the minutiae of decisions within things I'm excited about, and I don't give it to God, I don't just be, I don't let it roll.
• 38:30
  SPEAKER_00: I have a tendency to choke things out before they could even get to where they need to go.
• 38:35
  SPEAKER_00: I have a tendency to overthink something.
• 38:38
  SPEAKER_00: If it's um good example, I got invited to a cool festival next year.
• 38:45
  SPEAKER_00: Um and I'll I'll maybe tell the details later.
• 38:50
  SPEAKER_00: I don't want to for the point of this, but I needed to make a little more money on it to make it make sense.
• 38:57
  SPEAKER_00: I just did.
• 38:57
  SPEAKER_00: That was kind of the travel and blah blah blah and time and all that.
• 39:03
  SPEAKER_00: And this time I just decided because of that statement to just say what I needed and give it the chance of worrying about what happens after, after.
• 39:17
  SPEAKER_00: Before I would do, I would go talk to 10 people and say, what do you think I should do?
• 39:23
  SPEAKER_00: Outsource it.
• 39:25
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 39:26
  SPEAKER_00: And then I'd then they'd tell me and I'd go, no, no, I wouldn't even listen to anyone.
• 39:32
  SPEAKER_00: And then, long story short, I would let that opportunity pass because by the time I finally went, oh, I gotta get back to them.
• 39:39
  SPEAKER_00: They already booked the whole thing.
• 39:41
  SPEAKER_00: You know, that's an example.
• 39:42
  SPEAKER_00: That's like maybe not literally happen, but that is an example of how I can be on delaying decision making because I overthink, because it's perfectionistic habits, is what it is.
• 39:52
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, it's um pretend.
• 39:53
  SPEAKER_03: It's like um false money.
• 39:56
  SPEAKER_03: You know what I mean?
• 39:57
  SPEAKER_03: Like it's it's almost like it's not real.
• 40:00
  SPEAKER_03: It's not really your decision anyway, for the to begin with.
• 40:04
  SPEAKER_03: It's divine's decision, and and then you're just trying to get in the way and step in the way.
• 40:10
  SPEAKER_03: It's kind of like you have um a hangnail, for example, and you keep fidgeting with it, and then all of a sudden your fingers infect it, and you're like, well, just started with the simple little hangnail, but you got in the way.
• 40:24
  SPEAKER_03: If you had just left it alone, it could have healed all by itself.
• 40:27
  SPEAKER_00: So true.
• 40:28
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, that's the perfect example.
• 40:31
  SPEAKER_00: So I ended up just taking charge by not taking charge once again.
• 40:37
  SPEAKER_00: So, like, by taking charge for me was like, just decide.
• 40:41
  SPEAKER_00: That's the one power you're supposed to have.
• 40:44
  SPEAKER_00: And you had you could either accept or you can deny, right?
• 40:50
  SPEAKER_00: Within the denial, you could say your conditions to then accept.
• 40:53
  SPEAKER_00: That's what I had to do.
• 40:55
  SPEAKER_00: What the worst thing that I would normally have done would deny myself by the third option, which is just knock it back for way too long, you know, or something like that.
• 41:08
  SPEAKER_00: And it's just um that is something that I don't know.
• 41:11
  SPEAKER_00: That's and once again, just we're super, you know, you're talking to me, so we're gonna get out there.
• 41:17
  SPEAKER_03: But great, yeah.
• 41:19
  SPEAKER_00: But like we're tying it back to like staying in a flow state.
• 41:22
  SPEAKER_00: So, like for me, the flow state for me is like actually, it's like just take it on, pile it on.
• 41:28
  SPEAKER_00: You can, and if you can't, you'll figure that out, it'll be okay.
• 41:32
  SPEAKER_00: You gotta fail forward, you gotta learn lessons.
• 41:35
  SPEAKER_00: Like, so that's just where I'm at right now.
• 41:38
  SPEAKER_00: I don't know.
• 41:40
  SPEAKER_00: That's how I've been staying in the flow state.
• 41:42
  SPEAKER_03: But isn't it cool?
• 41:43
  SPEAKER_03: Because like when you're in this and you're doing this flow state, and you're it's not like it ends.
• 41:50
  SPEAKER_03: It doesn't it just feel like it's just like forever flowing to you, like it's just a forever river that just is gonna be different and shifts without whatever your life is at the time.
• 42:02
  SPEAKER_00: And it's just that is the Tao.
• 42:04
  SPEAKER_00: That's the Tao.
• 42:06
  SPEAKER_00: Taoism.
• 42:06
  SPEAKER_00: You ever heard of Taoism?
• 42:07
  SPEAKER_00: No, tell me the ever-flowing river, literally is uh so it's Eastern philosophy, uh Tao Taoism, some people call it, and uh it's like an Eastern religion of sorts.
• 42:21
  SPEAKER_00: Um, it's not like one that like even has to interfere with like a belief in a certain god, because it's more of like an understanding of the world, kind of like Analex of Confucius in a way.
• 42:30
  SPEAKER_00: And so, like the yin and yang right there, you got one on the side of your wall.
• 42:35
  SPEAKER_00: That line in the middle is called the bodhisattva, and that is the ever-flowing river, and so it's supposed to be the blend of yin and yang, which is flow state, kind of.
• 42:45
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, to be honest, that's the way I see it, is like what you're describing is being in that ever-flowing river of consciousness and awareness.
• 42:54
  SPEAKER_00: And I just thought about this as a contrast earlier today, like how I'm feeling right now is feeling alive and I feel healthy, and I feel like, man, just the way I feel based off the flow of what I how I'm allowing life to happen to me, and uh for me to be a part of it and live it.
• 43:15
  SPEAKER_00: I feel like if I had a cancer, it's gonna go away, type feeling.
• 43:19
  SPEAKER_00: And what I mean by that is as the other side is like it went, and I can remember times when I genuinely was so out of alignment, so stressed, so trying to be my own personal Jesus or something, and and I felt like I was dying.
• 43:38
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, I remember being like, I could say I could just be like just cold and like grayscale feeling, and like just stuck on a couch, and and literally the words like, and not because I had too much to drink the night before, it's not even that, it's like it's deeper, it's a spiritual thing.
• 43:54
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and I would go, I feel like I'm dying.
• 43:58
  SPEAKER_00: Like, and I used I've I've felt like that before, and like I just lately I feel like I'm living.
• 44:04
  SPEAKER_00: I don't know how else to say it.
• 44:06
  SPEAKER_03: So that is beautiful and amazing.
• 44:09
  SPEAKER_00: Well, well, well, this conversation is, I appreciate it.
• 44:14
  SPEAKER_03: Oh, me too.
• 44:16
  SPEAKER_03: Beyond them a million worlds, man.
• 44:19
  SPEAKER_03: So when you are um coming into that awareness, like how did you is that just always innate with you?
• 44:27
  SPEAKER_03: Well, I mean, I feel like it was with me to a point, and I suppressed it so much that I needed to just kind of either surrender to it or continue to make some shit shit decisions.
• 44:42
  SPEAKER_03: Then that's where I was in in mind and where it was more like the the death of it, you know, and then having to just surrender to it.
• 44:52
  SPEAKER_03: What what was your like surrender to your awakening of the just being able to see yourself?
• 44:57
  SPEAKER_03: Not awakening, maybe, but yeah.
• 45:01
  SPEAKER_00: I don't know.
• 45:02
  SPEAKER_00: I I will say when I was a kid, like my mom and dad almost thought I had something wrong with me, uh, to the level, like they just I'd always said I was like hyper observant.
• 45:16
  SPEAKER_00: Um I was like questioning the idea of God to dad one night when I was like seven years old, and it made him angry because he's like, How the hell am I gonna deal with this kid?
• 45:26
  SPEAKER_00: Pretty much.
• 45:27
  SPEAKER_00: And so big questions immediately have been a natural thing for me.
• 45:32
  SPEAKER_00: Uh, I've always been enamored by the unanswerable.
• 45:36
  SPEAKER_00: Um, I like to push the limits of our understanding.
• 45:41
  SPEAKER_00: I just do.
• 45:42
  SPEAKER_00: That is innate in me.
• 45:44
  SPEAKER_00: That was God-given gift to me and a curse, but it's a gift.
• 45:48
  SPEAKER_00: Um I really don't want to think I would want to live life another way anymore.
• 45:54
  SPEAKER_00: But there was the worst of times.
• 45:56
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 45:56
  SPEAKER_03: Where it happened for me, for example, like understanding the awakening, so to speak, or where I'm at and learning, um, coming into awareness of my situation, my reactions, my understanding of life.
• 46:12
  SPEAKER_03: Like, I was also one of those who questioned absolutely everything.
• 46:16
  SPEAKER_03: And I think that is the foundation of humanity, right?
• 46:20
  SPEAKER_03: Like I was never ever into like coming into being a full-on part of a church community.
• 46:29
  SPEAKER_03: Um, I tried all of them as a kid.
• 46:33
  SPEAKER_03: Like I would church hop, right?
• 46:35
  SPEAKER_03: Like to the Methodists, to the Baptists, and down to the Presbyterian.
• 46:39
  SPEAKER_03: Like I went to all of their vacation Bible schools mainly because like it was so much fun.
• 46:45
  SPEAKER_03: And they all taught a little bit different, even the Catholics.
• 46:49
  SPEAKER_03: I went to them too.
• 46:50
  SPEAKER_03: But what I've learned.
• 46:53
  SPEAKER_03: Oh, see, there you go.
• 46:55
  SPEAKER_03: But like I feel like when I became a middle adult, I was so anti all of it because I was hurt in some way, shape, or form, or misled and felt in some mistrust by people who proclaim to be certain ways.
• 47:09
  SPEAKER_03: And I kind of outsourced my belief system into people versus the God.
• 47:14
  SPEAKER_00: Yes.
• 47:15
  SPEAKER_00: And I I've done the same exact thing.
• 47:17
  SPEAKER_03: I guess like maybe that's the most defined way to ask the question of when did that change for you?
• 47:26
  SPEAKER_00: So that was something I was born with, too.
• 47:28
  SPEAKER_00: And that's actually a really good angle of probably where that foundation sets for me.
• 47:33
  SPEAKER_00: Mom was a Catholic school Italian woman from Louisville.
• 47:37
  SPEAKER_00: Dad was a farm boy from like Daniel Boone heritage like descendancy.
• 47:43
  SPEAKER_00: Uh and like they're just like, you better believe in God, like God fearing country type.
• 47:50
  SPEAKER_05: Right.
• 47:52
  SPEAKER_00: And so I was born into a system, a very systemic faith, system, Catholicism.
• 48:00
  SPEAKER_00: And dad allowed mom to take us to mass, but dad wouldn't go.
• 48:07
  SPEAKER_00: And then I was living in Stanford and I wasn't a fifth generational Lincoln County, and so you know there's you know what I'm talking about.
• 48:14
  SPEAKER_00: There's a sense when you're a first generation, there's just a sense that you're a little bit of a have not no matter who you are in elementary school, yeah.
• 48:21
  SPEAKER_00: And then not only that, you're in Stanford, Kentucky, where I remember like one of my third grade teachers being like, Is there any Catholic studs in here?
• 48:27
  SPEAKER_00: And like I raised my hand and they're like, Oh, well, it's just Daniel, and then they start ripping on the Pope, right?
• 48:32
  SPEAKER_04: Dude, they do, they do.
• 48:35
  SPEAKER_00: So that was part of probably what led me to questioning things because I was like, Well, you guys apparently love the same thing, but dad has to gripe about your way of doing it, and mom does this, and then mom's not griping about yours, because that's mom, but right, but then our school's griping about mine, and I'm just existing.
• 48:52
  SPEAKER_00: So that already made no sense to me.
• 48:55
  SPEAKER_00: There was a lot of irony.
• 48:57
  SPEAKER_00: What I started to do, hey honey, my wife just walked in.
• 49:02
  SPEAKER_00: Um, what I just started to do uh was the same thing.
• 49:07
  SPEAKER_00: I would kind of start to look at it in the hypocrisy of human nature, I would miss the point completely.
• 49:15
  SPEAKER_00: Um I and I and I and I didn't go I didn't go my curiosity, only went towards why I should be skeptic.
• 49:26
  SPEAKER_00: It didn't go towards why I should figure out God, anyways.
• 49:31
  SPEAKER_03: I just got tingles.
• 49:33
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah, that was a big part of it for me.
• 49:36
  SPEAKER_00: So I don't know.
• 49:38
  SPEAKER_00: I I've always kept I'll say this.
• 49:43
  SPEAKER_00: There was times where I was I would have told you I'm agnostic.
• 49:46
  SPEAKER_00: There was times that I would have said that, and then there's times where I would say that, and then deep down I'd be like, I know you're real God, and I'm just doing bad right now.
• 49:56
  SPEAKER_00: And I would look to say something like that, and then I would just let it be this self-loathing pattern.
• 50:01
  SPEAKER_00: And so you really did help me here because that is what led me into a lot of folly and chosen sin and um and helped me develop some bad habits, and um that was probably what led me to feeling at my worst spiritually, and like I I'll just say I've said it before on something before, so whatever.
• 50:28
  SPEAKER_00: Like, I've battled suicidal thoughts.
• 50:30
  SPEAKER_00: I've I don't go to a I haven't gone to a doctor to say you're dealing with this.
• 50:36
  SPEAKER_00: I fucking know, dude.
• 50:37
  SPEAKER_00: Like two plus two is four.
• 50:39
  SPEAKER_00: And like I know uh I've battled depression really bad, and I'm very blessed and thankful that I'm not being dealing with any of that, but I still deal with anxiety, that's a big thing I deal with.
• 50:52
  SPEAKER_00: I'm it's like I I actually just like I think I I try to deal with that word by just saying it.
• 50:57
  SPEAKER_00: I like what makes you more anxious than denying your state.
• 51:02
  SPEAKER_00: Not much.
• 51:03
  SPEAKER_00: So I just give, I give, I go, I give, just give it rope, and that's usually like you just like disarming a narcissist, give them what they want, and it short circuits them because they really just wanted the conflict.
• 51:14
  SPEAKER_04: Like so true, it's so true.
• 51:17
  SPEAKER_04: Just remove yourself completely, and then all of a sudden they're freaking out.
• 51:22
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, or like I mean, yeah, like and or just even just hang with it, just like cool, I love you anyways, and then that just doesn't give them what they want.
• 51:31
  SPEAKER_00: They think they want that, yeah.
• 51:32
  SPEAKER_00: So, like to me, I look at anxiety as a is a demon, like for me.
• 51:37
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I don't I I know there's even a relationship with the energy in my nervous system that can be anxiety and it can be fuel, but but when it's just feels bad and oh and it's fearful and scary, like I know what that is, and I just go like, hey, hey, devil, I see you.
• 51:57
  SPEAKER_03: Isn't that the you trying to make the decision versus surrendering to the free flow as well?
• 52:03
  SPEAKER_03: Is it is what it it that anxiety in that and and it's just more of trying to make the the decision, more of trying to be the boss a hundred percent, a hundred percent, yes, and so like when I separate that that's not me, and I don't identify by it, yeah, and I just know it's there, then I don't have to take it on.
• 52:28
  SPEAKER_00: I can take that coat off, yeah, and that's when I can go, and I also won't use my energy to condemn you as a feeling, right?
• 52:36
  SPEAKER_00: And so that's loving it, and that's what it needs to go away.
• 52:41
  SPEAKER_00: It's usually what it is for me.
• 52:43
  SPEAKER_03: Who needs a spiritual coach?
• 52:45
  SPEAKER_03: They can just call you.
• 52:47
  SPEAKER_03: You can speed so much truth, and so many wise things are coming out.
• 52:54
  SPEAKER_03: I am so in love with this conversation.
• 52:56
  SPEAKER_03: Um, how can people find you?
• 53:00
  SPEAKER_03: Like, what are where are you findable?
• 53:02
  SPEAKER_03: I'm sure you are.
• 53:04
  SPEAKER_00: There's a big difference in the way I'm choosing to live now than like say when I was 22 years old.
• 53:11
  SPEAKER_00: Say when I was even 27, like dad passed when I was like 26, and then two months later I turned 27, and like you know, I was just taking it on, and I I don't know, I wasn't I was running in a way for a long time, and um things have changed since then.
• 53:34
  SPEAKER_00: I it's kind of like this thing where it's like the things that have like become ammo on myself that I've used against myself, they're also the things that have been the reason I've found a meaning and a reason to find awareness, and so it's like I it's like just like again, I keep going back to scriptures and stuff, but like thinking, like taking joy in my trials and tribulations is what I aim to do.
• 54:00
  SPEAKER_00: There's still things I regret, there's still things I will regret.
• 54:03
  SPEAKER_00: I know that I'm so far from anything close to what the idea of perfect is, and the more I accept that every day, the more I can find being okay with who I am and stuff like that.
• 54:13
  SPEAKER_00: So it's like a hard thing to say when did that change, but I hope that makes any sense.
• 54:19
  SPEAKER_03: It's it was evolved.
• 54:20
  SPEAKER_03: And I feel like this is such an um analogy because I use this in my retreat too, and I was doing the workshop of In the Business of Yourself.
• 54:30
  SPEAKER_03: Well, literally, what we are putting out, we are receiving.
• 54:34
  SPEAKER_03: We are boomerangs, we are the mirrors of ourselves, we're in the mirrors of people who see what they see in us, we're being mirrors to them.
• 54:44
  SPEAKER_03: And then when we see what we see in us, we're just mirrors to ourselves.
• 54:48
  SPEAKER_03: So, like that anxiety or whatever, and you were like, This is anxiety, and you're naming it right versus like putting it out onto your wife, for example.
• 54:57
  SPEAKER_03: So then you would just fill it back 10 times more instead of just saying, you know, that was another huge part of my growth is committing to someone, yeah.
• 55:09
  SPEAKER_03: And she's such a sweetie.
• 55:12
  SPEAKER_00: Well, and I did like I projected so much to her at first.
• 55:17
  SPEAKER_00: I did, and she loved me anyways, and she stuck with me, and I stuck with her, but sticking with her meant to deal with the reflection of myself until I realized I need to change that in this and A and Z.
• 55:35
  SPEAKER_00: You know what I mean?
• 55:36
  SPEAKER_00: Like, and I think that's the thing about true love versus a flame versus everything else.
• 55:43
  SPEAKER_00: So that was a that's been a huge part too, seriously.
• 55:47
  SPEAKER_03: I feel like if I was talking to Josh right now, he'd say the same thing.
• 55:50
  SPEAKER_03: Like I can say that the same thing about him too.
• 55:53
  SPEAKER_03: Like, absolutely, yeah.
• 55:55
  SPEAKER_01: I mean that's beautiful, yeah.
• 55:57
  SPEAKER_03: And it's a something that you get to choose and to get to.
• 56:01
  SPEAKER_03: Like you wake up and you're like, what am I gonna create?
• 56:04
  SPEAKER_03: How am I gonna create my day today?
• 56:06
  SPEAKER_03: Versus, oh, it's another shitty day outside, gotta go to work on a Monday.
• 56:11
  SPEAKER_03: Right.
• 56:12
  SPEAKER_01: Like And I still have some days like that too, you know?
• 56:15
  SPEAKER_04: But right, but you're aware of at least you know, like that's the cool part.
• 56:23
  SPEAKER_00: Yes, yeah, the I know I'm supposed to give shout out, but this is so interesting for me.
• 56:29
  SPEAKER_00: This is like the real candy of the talk for me, is all this spiritual candy.
• 56:33
  SPEAKER_00: So I'll just say this too.
• 56:35
  SPEAKER_00: The other thing with awareness, and you said towards the self.
• 56:39
  SPEAKER_00: Yes, I was gifted with a deep uh uh the ability to go real in deep, and I can zoom out, I can look at things, and I can look at a detailed map from 50 miles above.
• 56:54
  SPEAKER_00: I could go down like going in a Google Mess and doing a street view and looking at on anything, right?
• 56:58
  SPEAKER_00: I I I like to do that.
• 57:00
  SPEAKER_00: But I the what doesn't come along for me, at least for a long time in my life, was doing that to myself.
• 57:09
  SPEAKER_00: I didn't see the way I was I was I wouldn't zoom in on on that.
• 57:13
  SPEAKER_00: And so once again, it's like it's just another way of saying like what we're talking about.
• 57:18
  SPEAKER_00: So it's like, yeah, as a kid, I could I had the ability to like read a book and like talk about it and do a discussion that was like you know, pretty high level, but it didn't mean I was doing that, it didn't mean I had that self-awareness, you know.
• 57:32
  SPEAKER_00: That's what's still developing.
• 57:35
  SPEAKER_03: I think it does it's uh continuously like I'm a bit older than you and it's still developing.
• 57:41
  SPEAKER_03: My mom's a bit older than me, it's still developing.
• 57:43
  SPEAKER_03: I could say I would hop my grandpa would still be developing his, but you know, yeah.
• 57:48
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, my dad told you the change that he made when he got cancer.
• 57:52
  SPEAKER_00: Sometimes it takes those things.
• 57:54
  SPEAKER_00: Like what made me move back home was I was in Nashville, I lived through a tornado.
• 57:59
  SPEAKER_00: Um, I got like maybe they still don't know what exactly it was.
• 58:03
  SPEAKER_00: They'd done a ton of tests on me, but it was like probably some tick-borne illness, uh uh COVID.
• 58:10
  SPEAKER_00: I got that and got like the Delta Orient, and like had a fever for 17 days straight, and then my dad passed.
• 58:17
  SPEAKER_00: All of those things happen within, and my grandma passed, and my gaga passed, and all of those things are bad on the surface, and they are uh to a certain way of how we look at life.
• 58:29
  SPEAKER_00: They are also the things that made me find a reason to take risks to look at myself and to find meaning in life and not just treat this whole thing like a cheap comedy.
• 58:41
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 58:42
  SPEAKER_03: Right, like you are removed from your victimhood, and now you get to see the opportunities that exist.
• 58:50
  SPEAKER_00: And I actually lived deeper in victimhood when I didn't have as much true reasons to be one.
• 58:56
  SPEAKER_00: Well, yeah, I think true, not with it.
• 58:59
  SPEAKER_00: Something we all yearn for in America because it sells, baby.
• 59:02
  SPEAKER_00: Victimhood sells.
• 59:04
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, like it and so that's the thing, is like it's kind of like, well, they're popular.
• 59:09
  SPEAKER_00: I want to be that.
• 59:10
  SPEAKER_00: I got problems.
• 59:11
  SPEAKER_00: I do think that happens to the average citizen a lot.
• 59:14
  SPEAKER_00: It happened to me a little.
• 59:16
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 59:17
  SPEAKER_05: Oh, that's hilarious.
• 59:19
  SPEAKER_05: I I'm now like going through my head like this slideshow of things that's been I can relate that to.
• 59:28
  SPEAKER_04: That is great.
• 59:30
  SPEAKER_04: All right.
• 59:31
  SPEAKER_04: So, any more of this candy you wanted to spread?
• 59:35
  SPEAKER_00: I'll I just thank you for letting me take it there.
• 59:38
  SPEAKER_03: Oh, I'll am so happy that you did.
• 59:41
  SPEAKER_03: That is the coolest because right now I'm actually doing an um tober with it's all online, like most of my offerings are all online.
• 59:48
  SPEAKER_03: And it's been 30 minutes a day, and I'm breaking down the yoga philosophy of Ulm and the spirituality of how to move it through the body.
• 59:57
  SPEAKER_03: It's been a lot of fun.
• 59:58
  SPEAKER_03: It's been so much fun.
• 1:00:00
  SPEAKER_03: So this um this tracks right up to going in front of the other cues of that I've got lined up.
• 1:00:09
  SPEAKER_03: So we'll be bringing that back out or this one out first.
• 1:00:13
  SPEAKER_03: But anyway, I was super happy that that's where this went because it's just like it's too perfect.
• 1:00:19
  SPEAKER_00: So yeah, it is because hey, audience, we literally had zero script, and she had no idea what I would bring up, she had no idea what I have touched the surface of knowing about.
• 1:00:33
  SPEAKER_00: I didn't know her.
• 1:00:34
  SPEAKER_00: I just knew that the name was fitzin, and I thought that was cool.
• 1:00:39
  SPEAKER_00: And then what I'm saying is that's the cool connection about like just this good energy.
• 1:00:45
  SPEAKER_00: It's pretty cool.
• 1:00:46
  SPEAKER_03: This morning, I will say I was meditating and he came up to me this morning, and I was like, I should reach out to him.
• 1:00:55
  SPEAKER_03: I got a little sidetracked, thought about you again.
• 1:00:58
  SPEAKER_03: I was like, no, here's the deal.
• 1:01:00
  SPEAKER_03: It's been a month.
• 1:01:02
  SPEAKER_03: He knows my my info.
• 1:01:04
  SPEAKER_03: I already offered it up.
• 1:01:06
  SPEAKER_03: He's a grown man.
• 1:01:07
  SPEAKER_03: If he wants it, he'll take it.
• 1:01:08
  SPEAKER_03: If not, if not.
• 1:01:09
  SPEAKER_03: And then two hours later, you're like, I put something on the calendar for today.
• 1:01:12
  SPEAKER_03: I'll do no bottom.
• 1:01:13
  SPEAKER_04: I'm like, all right, let's go.
• 1:01:17
  SPEAKER_04: Called it in.
• 1:01:19
  SPEAKER_04: Like I knew it was happening today.
• 1:01:22
  SPEAKER_00: See, that's a looking god moment for me.
• 1:01:24
  SPEAKER_03: It sure is.
• 1:01:26
  SPEAKER_03: Absolutely, it is.
• 1:01:28
  SPEAKER_03: Whoa.
• 1:01:29
  SPEAKER_03: So let us hear um one of your cool tunes.
• 1:01:32
  SPEAKER_03: It doesn't have to be a whole song, but whatever you are you wanting to play, are you feeling it?
• 1:01:36
  SPEAKER_03: If not, a time down.
• 1:01:38
  SPEAKER_00: I I I don't know if you have a time limit for us.
• 1:01:41
  SPEAKER_00: So I don't, but I I would love to.
• 1:01:44
  SPEAKER_03: The time is now that time is now that's been the theme of the day, man.
• 1:01:49
  SPEAKER_00: One time I called my mom and she was like, what a hippie.
• 1:01:52
  SPEAKER_00: Because I was like, mom's just like the time is now, is now, is now, is now, is now, is now, is now.
• 1:02:00
  SPEAKER_00: I was like, Do you know what I mean?
• 1:02:01
  SPEAKER_00: She was like, I think.
• 1:02:06
  SPEAKER_00: Should I call somebody?
• 1:02:10
  SPEAKER_06: But you get what I mean.
• 1:02:11
  SPEAKER_04: I do, I do.
• 1:02:13
  SPEAKER_04: Know a lot of people who would as well.
• 1:02:16
  SPEAKER_06: Yes.
• 1:02:21
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, we um we were talking about dad earlier, and I was talking about like the stubbornness I I gained the same stubbornness he had.
• 1:02:29
  SPEAKER_00: And uh I have this song called Cost of This Life.
• 1:02:32
  SPEAKER_00: And one of the lines says, Well, Daddy said I should get a real job.
• 1:02:36
  SPEAKER_00: Sorry, Pops, the apple didn't fall far.
• 1:02:39
  SPEAKER_00: That was just like fun, because I always joked and was like, Well, you sell guitars and do cool stuff.
• 1:02:44
  SPEAKER_00: Why can't I?
• 1:02:46
  SPEAKER_05: Just live with the dream.
• 1:02:56
  SPEAKER_03: Uh, whatever is coming to you.
• 1:02:58
  SPEAKER_03: No rehearsal.
• 1:03:08
  SPEAKER_00: No, I mentioned um something about talking about like feeling dad's boots and stuff, and I've written a song.
• 1:03:17
  SPEAKER_00: It might not be done, it might change, but I'll play where it's at right now.
• 1:03:21
  SPEAKER_03: That's an honor.
• 1:03:23
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, it's just called grief song right now.
• 1:03:26
  SPEAKER_03: Okay.
• 1:03:26
  SPEAKER_00: It's just called grief song.
• 1:03:28
  SPEAKER_00: So it's kind of about my journey with grief since he passed, and like just touches on a little bit of the way I'm trying to live and where I was living with it.
• 1:03:40
  SPEAKER_00: So and I I might forget a little bit.
• 1:03:43
  SPEAKER_00: It's okay, it's not point.
• 1:03:45
  SPEAKER_01: So can you hear that?
• 1:03:51
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I I can.
• 1:03:59
  SPEAKER_02: Lily things just ain't the same.
• 1:04:03
  SPEAKER_02: I'm running from you.
• 1:04:11
  SPEAKER_02: I spend my days in the haze.
• 1:04:16
  SPEAKER_02: I am numbing the truth.
• 1:04:24
  SPEAKER_02: I'm still the boy I'm growing my shoes.
• 1:04:36
  SPEAKER_02: I'm trying to be the man, but I ain't feeling these boots somewhere in between who I've gotta be.
• 1:05:01
  SPEAKER_02: I know I need to grieve jumping after deep freeze falling in the rain.
• 1:05:16
  SPEAKER_02: I am calling for you the only thing clears the pain that I am dying for truth.
• 1:05:37
  SPEAKER_02: And I've still for growing my shoes.
• 1:05:49
  SPEAKER_02: I've got to be the man that I ain't feeling these boo somewhere in between who I'm gonna be.
• 1:06:14
  SPEAKER_02: Well, this is how I breathe jumping off the deeper.
• 1:06:42
  SPEAKER_02: Things will never be the same.
• 1:06:46
  SPEAKER_02: I won't forget you.
• 1:06:55
  SPEAKER_00: That's the song.
• 1:06:57
  SPEAKER_03: That is so beautiful, and I am so honored that you just did that.
• 1:07:06
  SPEAKER_05: That that was gorgeous.
• 1:07:08
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, I'm already put the hat on.
• 1:07:11
  SPEAKER_05: That was gorgeous.
• 1:07:13
  SPEAKER_05: Thank you.
• 1:07:14
  SPEAKER_00: No problem.
• 1:07:15
  SPEAKER_00: Thank you.
• 1:07:15
  SPEAKER_00: Thank you.
• 1:07:16
  SPEAKER_00: Seriously, I'm really meant that for letting me have this opportunity and wanting to talk.
• 1:07:21
  SPEAKER_03: Oh, absolutely.
• 1:07:23
  SPEAKER_03: Anytime.
• 1:07:24
  SPEAKER_03: I believe I would just love to have you back anytime.
• 1:07:26
  SPEAKER_03: We'll see you when you get your album going and you are full-fledged in the paint, all the things.
• 1:07:35
  SPEAKER_03: I'm so excited for you, Daniel.
• 1:07:37
  SPEAKER_03: You've got such a huge, loving life ahead of you.
• 1:07:42
  SPEAKER_03: It is gorgeous.
• 1:07:43
  SPEAKER_03: I see it already.
• 1:07:45
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, well, thank you so much.
• 1:07:46
  SPEAKER_00: And I really mean this when I say I see the same in you, and um, I'm really awesome.
• 1:07:51
  SPEAKER_00: I'm really amazingly like just I'm amazed by seeing like what you've already got going on and knowing that you just came from a retreat.
• 1:07:59
  SPEAKER_00: You're like doing your thing.
• 1:08:00
  SPEAKER_00: You are I I call this self-actualization.
• 1:08:03
  SPEAKER_00: So I just feel like that's what we're doing.
• 1:08:05
  SPEAKER_03: So absolutely fortifying all day.
• 1:08:11
  SPEAKER_03: Oh, well, thank you.
• 1:08:12
  SPEAKER_03: And um, oh, where can we find you?
• 1:08:14
  SPEAKER_03: I need to I need we all need to know.
• 1:08:17
  SPEAKER_00: So uh I'm on wherever you stream music is where I've got nine songs out right now.
• 1:08:23
  SPEAKER_00: I've got a six-song acoustic EP called Appalachia Untold Sessions.
• 1:08:28
  SPEAKER_00: And uh, it's just me on a field mic out in Kanawa State Forest, West Virginia.
• 1:08:33
  SPEAKER_00: The birds in the back are just the birds in the back.
• 1:08:35
  SPEAKER_00: It's just raw, uncut, it's just is what it is.
• 1:08:38
  SPEAKER_00: And then I've got three songs I've done in the studio um with Dwayne Lundy and Lexington that are out.
• 1:08:44
  SPEAKER_00: I'm working on songs right now.
• 1:08:46
  SPEAKER_00: I'll tell you who it's really cool.
• 1:08:49
  SPEAKER_00: Uh, Matt Cameron, who was the drummer for Pearl Jam Soundgarden and Temple of the Dog.
• 1:08:54
  SPEAKER_00: He is want to produce and drum right now.
• 1:08:58
  SPEAKER_00: So that's what just got more chills.
• 1:09:03
  SPEAKER_00: Huh?
• 1:09:03
  SPEAKER_04: I just got more chills.
• 1:09:05
  SPEAKER_04: Like, that is so cool.
• 1:09:07
  SPEAKER_00: It's cool.
• 1:09:08
  SPEAKER_00: So I'm just very thankful, I'm very blessed.
• 1:09:10
  SPEAKER_00: I'm eager and I'm earnest, and I'm a young whippersnapper hoping to get the music and hope it goes to the next step.
• 1:09:17
  SPEAKER_00: Um, so that's what I'm doing right now.
• 1:09:20
  SPEAKER_00: And then I've got more shows coming up.
• 1:09:24
  SPEAKER_00: So find me at a show, find me on streaming, and then uh if you want to keep up kind of with the projects as they start to come.
• 1:09:34
  SPEAKER_00: This is like I'm doing soft launches right there.
• 1:09:36
  SPEAKER_00: I'm not blasting over my media because like I just don't want to be that way till like we have the music.
• 1:09:42
  SPEAKER_00: But I'm on Instagram under my full name, Daniel Todd Kane.
• 1:09:48
  SPEAKER_00: Um, and then I'm on Facebook.
• 1:09:51
  SPEAKER_00: Um, I'm on TikTok, I don't really use it much.
• 1:09:54
  SPEAKER_00: I'm on YouTube, so there's a lot that people have put me on their pages on through YouTube.
• 1:09:58
  SPEAKER_00: So and now I'm on the FitZen project.
• 1:10:01
  SPEAKER_03: Heck yeah, that's right.
• 1:10:04
  SPEAKER_03: Yes, and I will put all of your contact stuff in our show notes, and I'll have everybody be able to get to you super accessible.
• 1:10:11
  SPEAKER_03: My favorite song of yours right now in Spotify is Copperhead.
• 1:10:15
  SPEAKER_03: So yeah, oh yeah, it is it uh yeah, it's amazing.
• 1:10:20
  SPEAKER_03: So I mean, you're amazing.
• 1:10:21
  SPEAKER_03: I mean, there's no more to even say, you just have to go listen and figure it out for yourself.
• 1:10:27
  SPEAKER_03: So support Daniel.
• 1:10:29
  SPEAKER_03: I will give you his info and thank you so much.
• 1:10:35
  SPEAKER_01: Thank you.
• 1:10:36
  SPEAKER_01: Seriously, thank you.
• 1:10:40
  SPEAKER_04: Hey, so wasn't that amazing?
• 1:10:43
  SPEAKER_04: I can't even believe that I just had that whole conversation.
• 1:10:47
  SPEAKER_04: Ah, faith and family and fun and food, you know, like Daniel is an awesome, awesome cat man.
• 1:10:55
  SPEAKER_03: So please go support him on Spotify.
• 1:10:59
  SPEAKER_03: You can stream him literally anywhere.
• 1:11:01
  SPEAKER_03: So find him out, look at him, look for him for on Instagram, Daniel Todd Kane.
• 1:11:07
  SPEAKER_03: But um also if you loved this show like as much as I did, please give us a review, write us a comment, share it with a friend.
• 1:11:17
  SPEAKER_03: Like if you love it so much, share it with a person you know that would also love the insights too.
• 1:11:23
  SPEAKER_03: Because Daniel's up and coming, he's up and coming artist, and I do believe he will be one of those one-of-a-kind men, and he's definitely one of those one-of-the-kind voices.
• 1:11:33
  SPEAKER_03: You heard it yourself firsthand, and he's just like doing it, you know, which I absolutely love that he is literally just in the business of himself and taking it one stride at a time, and his total trust fall with his faith has aligned him in his passions, and I just can't express that enough.
• 1:11:56
  SPEAKER_03: How important it is that you are your most important project.
• 1:12:02
  SPEAKER_03: So Namaste, friends.