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Wicked Radio 2-12: Marc Fogel's Release Shows Why You Need People Who'll Fight For You · Wicked Radio with Bill Adams

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  Speaker 1: I was just scrolling through my phone watching some of
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  Speaker 1: these the still shots really, but also the video of
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  Speaker 1: this Mark Fogel release. This is one of the coolest, honestly,
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  Speaker 1: most heartwarming things I've ever seen come out of news stories,
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  Speaker 1: the American release. Finally after four years in a Russian
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  Speaker 1: detainment anyway, we'll call it a Russian jail, it finally
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  Speaker 1: got done and he comes home. And to me, though,
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  Speaker 1: it's amazing because I remember following this for a long
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  Speaker 1: time because we thought it was going to be released
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  Speaker 1: a couple of years ago. I'll tell you why in
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  Speaker 1: a moment to me and a story is the family,
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  Speaker 1: how they kept fighting for him and never gave up.
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  Speaker 1: And I learned something just this morning from an interview
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  Speaker 1: as sister did last night, talking about how it finally
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  Speaker 1: got done. And we know how it got done because
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  Speaker 1: I've got people in there who can negotiate. Now it's
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  Speaker 1: an amazing story. Plus we'll talk about the anti Doge protests.
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  Speaker 1: They've gone from desperate to more desperate, I guess. But
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  Speaker 1: it'll give you a chuckle at the end, and it's
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  Speaker 1: given us a new banger to sing along to do
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  Speaker 1: singalongs now, I kid you not this is actually happening.
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  Speaker 1: All right. With all that said, let's get taken care
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  Speaker 1: of some business here. Thanks for finding a Wicked radio.
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  Speaker 1: I appreciate you. My it was Bill Adams and Wicker
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  Speaker 1: Coolest thing in years that I've seen Mark Fogel. Little
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  Speaker 1: bit of background story here, So he's a teacher, he's
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  Speaker 1: on contract. He was on contracted to teach English to
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  Speaker 1: students in Russia. Who's detained in Russia because if you're
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  Speaker 1: an American there, you're a target for having medical marijuana,
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  Speaker 1: and for what all reports have said was a little bit,
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  Speaker 1: just a little amount of medical pot. So that's why
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  Speaker 1: they detained him, and he was held there for years. Well,
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  Speaker 1: he finally gets home yesterday, and this is a little
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  Speaker 1: bit tough to hear, and I'll boost up the volume
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  Speaker 1: for you to hear. But this is when he actually
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  Speaker 1: arrived on the ground and he's greeted by President Trump.
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  Speaker 1: Speaker of the House Mike Johnson was there as well
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  Speaker 1: as whether as well as some other American dignitaries. And
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  Speaker 1: this is what it sounded like.
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  Speaker 2: I thanks this for you. Who should these amazing people
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  Speaker 2: that have brought out and I just pust some rest
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  Speaker 2: in my life in debt.
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  Speaker 1: You can imagine how grateful he is for that, right,
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  Speaker 1: you get that. And I've seen a lot of chatter
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  Speaker 1: online because all of this. A lot of this goes
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  Speaker 1: back to some of the first questions or why couldn't
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  Speaker 1: Biden get this done? Why couldn't he you know, why?
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  Speaker 1: Or did he not want to get it done? And
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  Speaker 1: I don't think that's the case. I really don't, because
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  Speaker 1: he had to think about this. They're politicians. If Biden
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  Speaker 1: was able to get this guy released, able to or
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  Speaker 1: somebody in his administration was able to, I think of
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  Speaker 1: course they would have because it would have been a
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  Speaker 1: massive political win. Here's the difference. I don't think they
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  Speaker 1: had anybody in that administration. That thing we just survived
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  Speaker 1: right as we're trying to put in the dark, dark past.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think they had anybody in that administration who
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  Speaker 1: actually had the balls to negotiate and get it done.
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  Speaker 1: I truly truly don't. Now now compare the difference. You've
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  Speaker 1: got Trump in there for three weeks. Three weeks into
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  Speaker 1: this administration. I don't know when the first call happened.
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  Speaker 1: But Trump gets on the red phone to putin and
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  Speaker 1: he's like, yeah, hello, Vlad, Yeah it's done. Listen. I
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  Speaker 1: want you to get that pot smoking teacher out of
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  Speaker 1: your jail right now or the next time they see you,
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna kick your ass. Okay, thank you very much. Oh,
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  Speaker 1: by the way, has the wife Okay? Bye bye? And
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  Speaker 1: that got it done. It did facts matter. Trump got
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  Speaker 1: this guy released, but it wasn't just him now, Mark Fogel.
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  Speaker 1: They take him right to the White House and apparently
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  Speaker 1: he spent last night in the Lincoln bedroom. That's kind
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  Speaker 1: of cool. That's a cool thing. You've all seen the
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  Speaker 1: still shots and the video I was talking about you,
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  Speaker 1: the American flag draped over room. It's just a very
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  Speaker 1: powerful image came out of this yesterday. That's why a
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  Speaker 1: lot of people, including myself, say, we are back. We're
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  Speaker 1: back to America not getting kicked in the face of
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  Speaker 1: the shit anymore. It gets to the White House yesterday
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  Speaker 1: and he says this, I.
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  Speaker 2: Feel like the luckiest man on earth right now, and.
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  Speaker 1: I want you to know that I am not a
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  Speaker 1: hero in this at all.
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  Speaker 2: And President Trump, this is a hero. These men came
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  Speaker 2: from the diplomatic service are heroes.
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  Speaker 1: Well, he's a hero too, And this is why I
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  Speaker 1: think he's a hero. Now we had all I've been
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  Speaker 1: really following this story quite a bit because I was
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  Speaker 1: fascinated from the beginning of his family. To me, that's
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  Speaker 1: the story you'll hear from his sister here in just
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  Speaker 1: a second on an interview she did last night. She's
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  Speaker 1: done a lot of the I guess the pr from
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  Speaker 1: the family. Now, think of the situation in your own family.
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  Speaker 1: Who do you have, God forbid if anything like this
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  Speaker 1: had happened. Right, You've got a family member detained in
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  Speaker 1: a foreign country, an adversary currently and I'm talking about
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  Speaker 1: you know, over the past four years before the past
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  Speaker 1: three weeks, administration that does not know know how to negotiate. Right,
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  Speaker 1: you're kind of left alone. What do you do think
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  Speaker 1: about your family right now? Who you would put in
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  Speaker 1: charge of doing the pr Number one? Who you could
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  Speaker 1: also kind of recruit in your family or friendship, close
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  Speaker 1: social circle to do the calls to you to Congress people, senators, secretaries,
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  Speaker 1: of state, anybody you can possibly get a hold of
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  Speaker 1: in government, anybody with any leverage whatsoever, who will take
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  Speaker 1: your call to do an interview, to get his name
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  Speaker 1: out there, to remind you that he's still in captivity
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  Speaker 1: in Russia. Who do you have in your family to
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  Speaker 1: do that? Do you have anybody? Do you have people
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  Speaker 1: who would fight for you and continue the fight like
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  Speaker 1: they did? And I will tell you this, if you
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  Speaker 1: don't have them, get some because that's the only reason
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  Speaker 1: why this guy's free right now. Trump will get all
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  Speaker 1: the credit, obviously, and he should and this administration should.
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  Speaker 1: And I guess Marco Rubio made some very very powerful
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  Speaker 1: calls as well over to Russia to make this happen.
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  Speaker 1: But it's the family story here that's amazing. You never
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  Speaker 1: ever ever give up the fight, and they didn't prove positive. Okay.
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  Speaker 1: So here's Anne Fogel. She's his sister. She was on
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  Speaker 1: CNN last night listen to this development. I hadn't I
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  Speaker 1: didn't even know this till I saw this last night,
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  Speaker 1: the clip of it last night. I didn't see it live.
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  Speaker 1: She told the story about her family pushing, the mother,
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  Speaker 1: especially pushing. But Anne Fogel did a lot of the
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  Speaker 1: pr the mother had been reaching out, reaching out, reaching
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  Speaker 1: out to anybody. She couldn't bide the administration obviously, because
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  Speaker 1: we thought for a while he was going to be
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  Speaker 1: released in the Britney grinder thing. More on that in
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  Speaker 1: a second. But then she sees that Trump's running again
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  Speaker 1: and she reaches out to him personally and goes to
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  Speaker 1: the rally and Butler where a promise was made. This
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  Speaker 1: just makes an incredible story even more incredible. Here's the sister,
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  Speaker 1: Anne Fogel. Last week, my mother went to the Trump
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  Speaker 1: rally and saw President Trump shortly before he was shot,
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  Speaker 1: and Butler. Butler, just crazy turn of events, and he
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  Speaker 1: told her then that he was if he was elected,
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  Speaker 1: he was going to get him out. And the man, wow, wow,
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  Speaker 1: Now you can take this a bunch of different ways. Again,
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  Speaker 1: might take away as the family fight because they never stopped.
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  Speaker 1: They never This only happens because they never stopped fighting.
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  Speaker 1: And the mom going to the rally, you know, and
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  Speaker 1: the Trump people knew exactly who she was. But to
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  Speaker 1: get a face to face meeting, he can look into
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  Speaker 1: her eyes, hear her plea for her son's release out
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  Speaker 1: of Russia, and then to make that promise. That's what
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  Speaker 1: got this done. Here's the thing. I started paying attention
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  Speaker 1: to the family angle of this thing when the Britner
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  Speaker 1: Griny Grinder story had happened a year, year and a
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  Speaker 1: half ago. How long ago was that, You might remember
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  Speaker 1: this the WNBA player, the basketball player. She was held
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  Speaker 1: in Russia as well, and I think a similar thing
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  Speaker 1: along with her as medical marijuana, but it was a
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  Speaker 1: pot charge whatever it was. But that's a big chip.
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  Speaker 1: So of course you know, Putin's cronies are gonna hold
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  Speaker 1: on to her because that's that's a big chip. Because
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  Speaker 1: the Biden administration at the time saw, oh, oh my god,
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  Speaker 1: a female, a black female WNBA player. That's like, that's
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  Speaker 1: all the leverage in the world. I mean, we got
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  Speaker 1: to get her released. At the time, and if you
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  Speaker 1: remember this, the family, Mark Fogel's family, the same family
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  Speaker 1: you're hearing from right now, was incredibly hopeful because up
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  Speaker 1: until the last minute, this is how cruel this was.
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  Speaker 1: Up until the last minute, they were talking about releasing
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  Speaker 1: Britney Griner along with Mark Fogel at the same time,
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  Speaker 1: and it looked like they were at the two yard line.
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  Speaker 1: It looked like they were gonna push it through and
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  Speaker 1: it was going to happen. At the last minute, that
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  Speaker 1: deal fell apart and we didn't get Mark Fogel home.
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  Speaker 1: Can you imagine? Can you imagine just being in that
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  Speaker 1: situation again, Go to your own family situation. You've got
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  Speaker 1: a sister who's been held by somebody in Russia. Right,
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  Speaker 1: You're being told by a pathetic state department, you're gonna
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  Speaker 1: get this thing done. The last minute, you find out no,
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  Speaker 1: and then you think you have no leverage whatsoever, and
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  Speaker 1: you're never gonna see him again. They never stopped fighting.
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  Speaker 1: As luck would have it, administration changes. She gets a
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  Speaker 1: face to face with Trump and it happens now a
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  Speaker 1: little bit more to the background. Remember this, Do you
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  Speaker 1: remember the name? Do you remember what the trade was?
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  Speaker 1: Who got Britney Griner, the WNBA player, the apparently more
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  Speaker 1: valuable than Mark Fogel, an American teacher. You know that
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  Speaker 1: should show you how we feel about things in society,
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  Speaker 1: or certain segments feel about things. Remember what the trade was?
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  Speaker 1: Can give a second to think about this? What was
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  Speaker 1: the one for one trade? There were some other side ones,
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  Speaker 1: but the one for one main trade. We got to
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  Speaker 1: get Britney Grinder back a couple of years ago. His
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  Speaker 1: name was Victor Boot. We released Victor Boot, a terrorist,
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  Speaker 1: a Russian who was known as the Merchant of Death.
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  Speaker 1: That's what he was called. That's what it was called
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  Speaker 1: by countries around the world because he sold arms to terrorists,
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  Speaker 1: and the stories came out immediately. It was within days
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  Speaker 1: and weeks after that guy got released for Britney Grinder,
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  Speaker 1: not Mark Vogel, and he went right back to selling
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  Speaker 1: weapons to the Taliban. That's where we are, no, that's
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  Speaker 1: where we were. But the family never kept fighting, never
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  Speaker 1: stopped fighting, and they kept up that fight. Is why
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  Speaker 1: I say you got to have somebody in your life
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  Speaker 1: that'll fight for you like their family fought for this
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  Speaker 1: guy and will continue to fight. And story gets even better.
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  Speaker 1: You're ready for this hidden in this big giant news
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  Speaker 1: story last night. This was again at the White House
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  Speaker 1: when they finally got there. Trump drops a little teaser.
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  Speaker 1: You want to talk about a negotiator. You want to
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  Speaker 1: wonder why people voted for this, A negotiator, a business
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  Speaker 1: person in the White House. This might give you a clue,
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  Speaker 1: get a lead, and where somebody else is being released
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  Speaker 1: tomorrow that you will know of but we wanted to
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  Speaker 1: get this done very important. I don't know whether we're
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  Speaker 1: going to release any Russians or anybody else from our
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  Speaker 1: captivity to get this thing done, but he says that
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  Speaker 1: would be today, because he said it last night. We're
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  Speaker 1: going to get another American released that you'll hear about.
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  Speaker 1: We're not getting kicked in the teeth anymore. And it's
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  Speaker 1: an amazing, an amazing development to happen. I just feel
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  Speaker 1: so good for this guy, I really do. Is that
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  Speaker 1: this is it's it's the imagery of it. Look, you know,
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  Speaker 1: the perception is really what happens here most people, and
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  Speaker 1: it's a it's a viral image that's going around with
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  Speaker 1: Mark Fogel and the American flag around him and Trump
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  Speaker 1: greeting him, and he's there and he's ug in his family,
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  Speaker 1: and that really matters. That's one of those things that
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  Speaker 1: sticks in the minds and in the psyche of citizens everywhere.
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  Speaker 1: It's this is an amazing and amazing victory. And again
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  Speaker 1: it took three weeks to get this done. After the
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  Speaker 1: pain they went through for the past four years, including
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  Speaker 1: the most painful thing of all with the Britney Griner swap.
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  Speaker 1: They thought the family thought they were told by that
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  Speaker 1: previous state department that he was going to be released,
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  Speaker 1: and they got ripped away from him at the last moment.
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  Speaker 1: But the mom, like any good mom, and my mom
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  Speaker 1: would have done that too. She would have gone to
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  Speaker 1: the rally and talked to him. I'm sure you would
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  Speaker 1: have too, or I hope somebody in your life would
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  Speaker 1: have asked Trump personally to get her son out of
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  Speaker 1: Russian captivity and it happened. That's just that's just awesome,
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  Speaker 1: all right, cool, Well we got this after all of that,
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  Speaker 1: after that emotional story. You need you need a laugh,
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  Speaker 1: you need a chuck. We all need a chuckle after this, right.
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  Speaker 1: And it's I was here yesterday saying that you know
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  Speaker 1: those anti Doge protests, the people that are you know,
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  Speaker 1: they're outing themselves. It's like you can see where the
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  Speaker 1: rats are. They're all coming out of the soup and
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  Speaker 1: the sewer because they have a vested interest in holding
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  Speaker 1: onto the corrupt money they've all gotten. Right, all this
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  Speaker 1: taxpayer are taxpayer money going to these NGOs and these
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  Speaker 1: these organizations, and then it's getting funneled through other things
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  Speaker 1: that we're not getting anything back for the money. So
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  Speaker 1: the politicians that are out there doing these protests, they
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  Speaker 1: have a vested interest in holding onto their their corrupt money, right,
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  Speaker 1: so they're you know, they're not dumb, they know what
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  Speaker 1: they're doing. They're they're just corrupt as hell and they
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  Speaker 1: have to out themselves and they have the other side
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  Speaker 1: of this thing, though, then you have what I call
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  Speaker 1: the useful idiots, the other people who don't understand that
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  Speaker 1: that this is all corrupt. They just you know, they'll
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  Speaker 1: see like a they'll see like a name on one
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  Speaker 1: of these organizations USA. I d why in the world
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  Speaker 1: would you ever want to get rid of that? Those
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  Speaker 1: are the useful idiots that are used by that other
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  Speaker 1: so by the corrupt people. Well, the useful idiots are
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  Speaker 1: all coming out now. Now these protests have gone from desperate,
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  Speaker 1: which was the smart people, because they're just you know,
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  Speaker 1: they're trying to hold onto their money and their cash
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  Speaker 1: income as illegal as it is. And it's moved from
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  Speaker 1: desperate to sad. But it'll give you something that'll stick
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  Speaker 1: in your head, I promise you. I don't know where
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  Speaker 1: this was, I don't know exactly who they are, just
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  Speaker 1: know that these are the use useful idiots for the
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  Speaker 1: other side to save their corruption. You ready, they've got
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  Speaker 1: sing along songs now A one and a two? And
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  Speaker 1: which side are you on? Where side are you all? Yeah?
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  Speaker 2: Me? Which side are you on?
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  Speaker 1: Which side are you on? Here we go. We're fine
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  Speaker 1: against Josh, We're fine.
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  Speaker 2: Way landscap within.
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  Speaker 1: Our walls, all fight from don to dusk. It goes on.
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  Speaker 1: I wasn't gonna torch you anymore with that. Some of
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  Speaker 1: the lyrics if you if you missed it me talking
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  Speaker 1: over it were h we'll fight against doge, We'll fight
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  Speaker 1: against elon. It goes off for like three minutes. And
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  Speaker 1: as much as I'm laughing at them, I swear to
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  Speaker 1: God since the first time I heard that early today,
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  Speaker 1: that that sing along, that tune, that melody has been
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  Speaker 1: stuck in my head since, like I was getting ready
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  Speaker 1: for this thing, and I'm going, what sign are you?
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  Speaker 1: It's all given this at least it's catchy, right, oh boy?
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  Speaker 1: But when you you know what, that's another thing too,
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  Speaker 1: where you talked about the imagery with the Mark Folgel release.
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  Speaker 1: When when you've got most people and most people are
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  Speaker 1: it's just because it's already a meme and people are
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  Speaker 1: already like chopping that up and making fun of them.
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  Speaker 1: When you're getting laughed at, you've lost the battle. Honestly,
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  Speaker 1: it's just I think they just lost it. They really do.
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  Speaker 1: At least that's today's chuckle. But the takeaway find people
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  Speaker 1: like Mark Fogel's family who will never stop fighting for you.
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  Speaker 1: And if you don't think you have those people in
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  Speaker 1: your life, hopefully your family get some because you never
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  Speaker 1: know what's gonna happen. That's an incredible story. The second
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  Speaker 1: one is, as always, don't take any crap from anybody.
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  Speaker 1: All right, rolling rolling for the work week. It's past
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  Speaker 1: midweek already, you start talking about some Valentine's Day stuff?
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  Speaker 1: How about that? How about that for light and fluffy?
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  Speaker 1: As we head towards tomorrow and Friday, hitting into the weekend,
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  Speaker 1: also some headlines too as well, like Trump teas there.
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  Speaker 1: I can't wait to find out, and I'm sure we'll
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  Speaker 1: have the news by the time we come on live
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  Speaker 1: again tomorrow morning. Who's gonna be released next? Hopefully we
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  Speaker 1: don't give up anything again, I can't wait to find out.
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  Speaker 1: This is a great thing, and you're right, if you're
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  Speaker 1: thinking it, I'll say it for you. We are so back.
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  Speaker 1: Talk to you tomorrow.
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