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TEXAS TWIN AUSTIN METCALF STABBED DEAD AT HS TRACK MEET: FAMILY TURMOIL · Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

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  Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace.
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  Speaker 2: At a high school track meet, a track star from
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  Speaker 2: one team stabs a track star from another team dead
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  Speaker 2: in the last days, a press conference being held for
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  Speaker 2: the alleged killer degenerates into chaos and the victim, Austin
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  Speaker 2: metcalfs father.
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  Speaker 1: Is thrown out.
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  Speaker 2: That's right, the victim's father is thrown out of the
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  Speaker 2: press conference.
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  Speaker 1: I'm Nancy Grace. This is Crime Stories. Thank you for
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  Speaker 1: being with us.
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  Speaker 2: The father of a teen boy stabbed dead a track
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  Speaker 2: meet in Texas was just thrown out of a press conference.
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  Speaker 2: The conference was being held for the alleged killer. The victim,
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  Speaker 2: Austin Metcalf's father, Jeff, was then attacked with shocking insults,
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  Speaker 2: insults from the defendant the suspects supporters. Austin Metcalf's dad, Jeff,
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  Speaker 2: went to a press conference organized by supporters of a
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  Speaker 2: seventeen year old young man, the alleged killer, Carmelo Anthony.
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  Speaker 1: Now the dad.
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  Speaker 2: Austin Metcalf had been standing with the press, was taken
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  Speaker 2: out of the venue when police recalled to the Next
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  Speaker 2: Generation Action Network's headquarters there in Dallas. What sparked this
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  Speaker 2: turn of events? What do we know.
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  Speaker 3: Austin Metcalf is a seventeen year old straight a student
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  Speaker 3: and football star at Frisco Memorial High School. But what
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  Speaker 3: is supposed to start out as an ordinary track of
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  Speaker 3: the ends in tragedy for the prodigious athlete.
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  Speaker 2: Two twin brothers scrubbed in sunshine. One bleeds out dead
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  Speaker 2: in the arms of his twin brother as we go
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  Speaker 2: to air tonight. What I perceive to be an outrageous defense.
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  Speaker 2: First of all, listen to this.
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  Speaker 4: And his brother was holding him, trying to hold the
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  Speaker 4: blood in, and he passed. My son watched his brother
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  Speaker 4: die in his arms.
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  Speaker 5: During a track meet between Memorial High School and Centennial
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  Speaker 5: High School in Frisco, Texas, a light rain begins to
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  Speaker 5: fall and athletes take cover under tents with their respective
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  Speaker 5: teams at Kukendall Stadium. Memorial High School athlete Austin Metcalf
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  Speaker 5: finds Centennial High School athlete Carmelo Anthony under the Memorial
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  Speaker 5: High School tent and tells him he needs to move
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  Speaker 5: from under his team's tent. When Anthony refuses, words are exchanged,
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  Speaker 5: and Anthony tells Metcalf, touch me and see what happens.
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  Speaker 2: He first heard from the victim's father. That from our
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  Speaker 2: friends at Foxford joining us an all star panel to
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  Speaker 2: make sense of.
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  Speaker 1: A senseless and brutal stabbing.
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  Speaker 2: I cannot get the image out of my mind of
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  Speaker 2: this star athlete bleeding out dead as his twin brother
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  Speaker 2: tried to stop the bleeding, holding him.
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  Speaker 1: In his arms.
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  Speaker 2: You know, I've been to plenty of high school track events,
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  Speaker 2: my son has been involved in track from the get go,
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  Speaker 2: and I can't even imagine a fatal stabbing over a
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  Speaker 2: seat and a tent straight out to special guests joining us.
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  Speaker 2: Katie Barber, Senior digital content producer at mysan Antonio dot com.
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  Speaker 1: Katie, thank you for being with us.
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  Speaker 2: What do we believe happened that led up to the
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  Speaker 2: horrible stabbing death of this young star athlete? Literally scrubbed
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  Speaker 2: and sunshine? And why did the suspect have a knife
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  Speaker 2: at a track mate.
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  Speaker 6: It's really not clear why he had a knife at
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  Speaker 6: the track meet on April second, but unfortunately he did.
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  Speaker 6: One witness told police they were sitting with Metcalf under
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  Speaker 6: their school tent when someone they didn't know, now identified
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  Speaker 6: as Carmelo Anthony, came over to them and he is
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  Speaker 6: allegedly when I grabbed the bag when he was confronted
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  Speaker 6: and reached inside and said, touch me and see what happens.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, wait, hold on, Katy Barber joining me from my
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  Speaker 2: San Antonio dot com. Who said what? Who sat down where?
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  Speaker 2: Who said what? And who said touch me and see
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  Speaker 2: what happens?
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  Speaker 1: Give me proper names.
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  Speaker 6: One witness told an officer that they were sitting with
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  Speaker 6: Metcalf under the school's tent when Carmelo Anthony came over
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  Speaker 6: to them.
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  Speaker 1: While they were in the tent.
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  Speaker 6: The witness said, Metcalf told Anthony to leave the tent,
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  Speaker 6: and when he did that, Anthony grabbed his opened it,
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  Speaker 6: reached inside and said touch me and see what happens.
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  Speaker 6: And then police said in the doctor that no one
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  Speaker 6: believed that he had a weapon at the time.
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  Speaker 2: Well, somebody had a weapon because Austin stabbed dead.
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  Speaker 1: To Lisa Herrick.
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  Speaker 2: Joining us, veteran juvenile attorney partner at Vargie Somerset, this
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  Speaker 2: is important, former juvenile prosecutor, Lisa, thank you for being
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  Speaker 2: with us.
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  Speaker 5: Thank you, Nancy.
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  Speaker 2: That's enough time to form premeditation right there now. I
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  Speaker 2: know that you defend juveniles after having been a juvenile prosecutor.
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  Speaker 2: But the reality is under the black and white letter
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  Speaker 2: of the law, Okay, premeditation, the intent to kill, or
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  Speaker 2: the intent to commit any act can be formed in
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  Speaker 2: the blink of an eye, the twinkling of a moment,
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  Speaker 2: the time it takes you to raise the gun and
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  Speaker 2: pull the trigger. The law does not require a long
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  Speaker 2: drawn out period for premeditation or planning mensraya, malicea forethought
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  Speaker 2: for us to say, long drawn app period of poisoning
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  Speaker 2: someone every single day, just a tiny bit of arsenic
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  Speaker 2: and then they die. It can be formed just like that.
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  Speaker 2: Why do I care? Because premeditation or malicea forethought? Mince
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  Speaker 2: raya is a key factor, the critical ingredient in a
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  Speaker 2: murder one prosecution, isn't it.
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  Speaker 1: Absolutely?
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  Speaker 7: Intent is one of the main elements of a murder
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  Speaker 7: or an assault, an aggravated assault with a deadly weapon
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  Speaker 7: that turns into a murder. Because in Texas we have
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  Speaker 7: a number of different ways that murder can be committed,
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  Speaker 7: or the language for murder can be alleged, one of
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  Speaker 7: which can be that you intend for a person to die,
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  Speaker 7: but another can be that your actions, your intentional or
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  Speaker 7: knowing actions, are such that you would know that a
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  Speaker 7: would die. So stabbing someone in the heart, you would
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  Speaker 7: certainly know that a person would die if you stab
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  Speaker 7: someone in the heart, and that knowledge or that intent,
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  Speaker 7: like you said.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, hold on, Lisa Harriet joining me veteran trial lawyer, Lisa,
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  Speaker 2: You're absolutely correct. And I've got a great example, because
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  Speaker 2: when I speak to jury's very often, or really anybody,
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  Speaker 2: and I can't tell I can't state that this was
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  Speaker 2: my idea. I got it from someone in the New Testament.
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  Speaker 2: I like to give examples, okay.
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  Speaker 1: Stories.
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  Speaker 2: For instance, if I take a gun and point it
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  Speaker 2: right over at my executive producer right here, Jackie, and
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  Speaker 2: pull the trigger and then say, I just meant to
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  Speaker 2: scare her. I didn't mean to kill her. The law
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  Speaker 2: presumes you intend the natural consequence of your act. You
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  Speaker 2: don't have to say I will now kill you, bam.
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  Speaker 2: The law presumes you intend the natural consequence of your act.
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  Speaker 2: So when you take the time to go to your
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  Speaker 2: duffel bag, your athletic bag, a zip it, get out
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  Speaker 2: a knife, and then stab someone, and then we have
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  Speaker 2: the previous threat touch me and see what's going to happen.
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  Speaker 2: All of that adds together to make a premeditated murder case.
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  Speaker 2: Now you have not only prosecuted juvenile cases felonies, which
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  Speaker 2: is a whole other animal prosecuting injvenile court, GV court
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  Speaker 2: versus big court. What's your defense in this case, Lisa?
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  Speaker 2: What would your defense possibly be? Is it true that
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  Speaker 2: a stand your ground defense is brewing?
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  Speaker 1: How can that percolate? That didn't happen?
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  Speaker 7: A standard ground defense is hard in this fact situation
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  Speaker 7: because stand your ground law presumes that the victim is
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  Speaker 7: somewhere that they are not supposed to be right. You're
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  Speaker 7: defending your space when stand your ground law applies. And
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  Speaker 7: certainly Austin was in a place where he was allowed
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  Speaker 7: to be. No, I think Carmelo probably was allowed to
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  Speaker 7: be where he was as well.
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  Speaker 1: It's a public place right.
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  Speaker 7: But in order to claim stand your ground and in
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  Speaker 7: order to use that as your defense, you have to
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  Speaker 7: be defending your space. And so I know Carmelo is
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  Speaker 7: saying that Austin put hands on him. But deadly force
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  Speaker 7: is self defense theory that is supposed to be used.
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  Speaker 7: Deadly force meets deadly force. Self defense is not medica.
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  Speaker 2: Lisa, Again, you're absolutely correct regarding the letter of the law.
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  Speaker 2: I like to use this example. You can't slap me
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  Speaker 2: and then I shoot you down with an uzzi. Okay,
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  Speaker 2: As for instance, I can't battle back against your fly
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  Speaker 2: swatter with a machine gun. So you said it deadly
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  Speaker 2: force equals deadly force. But here, isn't it true that
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  Speaker 2: Austin Metcalf was unarmed? So to introduce a deadly weapon
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  Speaker 2: that's deadly force versus no force correct?
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  Speaker 7: And even more so self defense without a deadly weapon.
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  Speaker 7: Regular self defense is not a justifiable defense to use
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  Speaker 7: against words alone. The law says that words are not
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  Speaker 7: sufficient provocation to use self defense.
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  Speaker 1: Listen to this.
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  Speaker 4: Everybody was able to semail Son only gurney with a
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  Speaker 4: huge hole and blood all over him, and they were
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  Speaker 4: pumping him.
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  Speaker 8: He wasn't breathing.
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  Speaker 1: His OSU rolled back in his head.
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  Speaker 3: Centennial High School's Carmelo Anthony reaches inside his bag, grabs
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  Speaker 3: a knife, and stabs Austin Metcalf in the chest underneath
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  Speaker 3: the memorial's high school pop up tent, and then he
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  Speaker 3: runs away as Metcalf's twin brother Hunter comes to his
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  Speaker 3: brother's aide. Witnesses point out Anthony to a nearby middle
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  Speaker 3: school resource officer who chases the suspect down.
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  Speaker 2: At first, you were hearing Austin's father speaking to our
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  Speaker 2: friends at Fox for the family.
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  Speaker 1: Devastated.
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  Speaker 2: I cannot even imagine what it would be like for
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  Speaker 2: the father to see this, much less the twin brother
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  Speaker 2: holding Austin.
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  Speaker 1: In his arms trying to stop the blood.
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  Speaker 2: I wouldn't have understood it if I didn't have twins
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  Speaker 2: of my own. They're practically joined at the hip and
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  Speaker 2: mineor boy girl, much less boy boy or girl girl,
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  Speaker 2: that play all their sports together, that do everything together.
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  Speaker 1: Having your twin bleed.
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  Speaker 2: Out dead in your arms, let me go straight out
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  Speaker 2: to a special guest joining us, also like Lisa Herrick
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  Speaker 2: joining us from this jurisdiction. Doctor Kimball Crowns with US
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  Speaker 2: Chief Medical Examiner Terrent County. That's Fort Worth never lack
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  Speaker 2: a business in that morgue. A stameed lecturer at the
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  Speaker 2: Burnett School of Medicine at TCU, Texas Christian University and
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  Speaker 2: launching a brand new podcast, Meg Him in the Morgue.
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  Speaker 2: April fourteen, Doctor Kimbrill Crowns, I know you've studied the
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  Speaker 2: case very carefully. Was there a way his twin brother
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  Speaker 2: could have saved Austin.
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  Speaker 9: I know there wouldn't have been because the stab wound
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  Speaker 9: was in the heart unless he could be gotten to
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  Speaker 9: an emergency room like immediately, and they may have been
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  Speaker 9: able to save him, but more likely than not, he
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  Speaker 9: was going to die anyway. That type of injury to
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  Speaker 9: the heart, there's just really no coming back unless you're
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  Speaker 9: basically in ther when you get stabbed. Explain why, Because
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  Speaker 9: it's your heart, it's you know, it's all your blood's
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  Speaker 9: coming through there, it's all being pumped out. And then
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  Speaker 9: when you have an aw hole in your heart, it's
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  Speaker 9: bleeding into your chest cavity, and you have to close
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  Speaker 9: that hole up in the heart, So you'd have to
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  Speaker 9: crack the chest open, get in there and try and
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  Speaker 9: fix the heart. And there's just so much blood loss
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  Speaker 9: because of the size of the hole. It's it's near
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  Speaker 9: impossible to save that individual, and just putting pressure on
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  Speaker 9: it at the scene, all that's going to create is
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  Speaker 9: they're just going to bleed into their chest cavity.
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  Speaker 2: I'm just thinking about what you're saying, doctor Kindall Crowns
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  Speaker 2: because Katie Barber was Austin stabbed in the heart.
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  Speaker 6: The arrest document states he was stabbed in the chest.
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  Speaker 2: So interesting, I wonder how close to the heart he
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  Speaker 2: was stabbed. So okay, doctor Kindle Crowns will digest that.
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  Speaker 2: Not stabbed in the heart, stab in the chest. Does
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  Speaker 2: that make a difference in your analysis.
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  Speaker 9: So it depends on where exactly in the chest you
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  Speaker 9: go up. But if you're kind of in the midline
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  Speaker 9: or to the left, that's going to be the heart.
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  Speaker 9: You go up a little higher, it's the aorta, which
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  Speaker 9: is the main vessel coming off the heart. They're going
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  Speaker 9: to bleed out again in just a matter of minutes
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  Speaker 9: from that as well, there's no saving at the scene.
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  Speaker 1: You go to a.
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  Speaker 9: Little to the side one way or another. You've punctured
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  Speaker 9: at the chest, punctured the lung, and that'll cause a
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  Speaker 9: collapse lung that causes a lot of hemorrhage. That one
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  Speaker 9: you may be able to save the person if you
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  Speaker 9: can get him to the hospital fast enough. From all
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  Speaker 9: the information I've seen, it doesn't sound like it got
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  Speaker 9: stabbed in the chest in the area of a lung.
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  Speaker 9: It's more probably centralized hitting them.
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  Speaker 7: In the art.
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  Speaker 2: Crime stores with Nancy Grace, the teen boy Austin Metcalf's
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  Speaker 2: twin brother held his brother in his arms, trying to
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  Speaker 2: staunch the flow of blood as Austin died, but nothing
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  Speaker 2: could save the victim track Star and now the victim's
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  Speaker 2: family being targeted. The definitive family has raised hundreds of
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  Speaker 2: thousands of dollars on various platforms online, now over five
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  Speaker 2: hundred thousand dollars for the defendant, the alleged stabber's defense.
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  Speaker 2: What that money is being used on is up in
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  Speaker 2: the air.
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  Speaker 1: But I know this.
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  Speaker 2: I know the victims mother and father. Austin's mother and
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  Speaker 2: father have both been swatted in their homes fate calls
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  Speaker 2: being made to police that someone in the home has
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  Speaker 2: been shot, so police swarm the home regardless of the
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  Speaker 2: time of day or night, under the fear someone may
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  Speaker 2: have been killed in the home. It's not the law
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  Speaker 2: enforcement's fault, they're doing their jobs. The victims mom and
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  Speaker 2: dad are separated, they live separately, both of them being
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  Speaker 2: swatting at victims. I mean, haven't they suffered enough for
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  Speaker 2: Pete's sake? What do we know about the day that
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  Speaker 2: Austin is stabbed dead. You're saying there's no way twin
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  Speaker 2: brother Hunter could have saved Austin, because even if Hunter
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  Speaker 2: could have pushed down where Austin was bleeding, and so
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  Speaker 2: it would look like to the naked eye that he
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  Speaker 2: had stopped the bleeding, the bleeding would still be happening
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  Speaker 2: underneath the skin, and the blood would then be pumping
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  Speaker 2: straight into the lungs. So he would die on his
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  Speaker 2: own blood and his lungs. I mean, there's no way
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  Speaker 2: he could have saved him. Are you sure?
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  Speaker 1: Do you feel confident in that?
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  Speaker 8: Yes?
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  Speaker 9: I feel very confident in that. If he puts his
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  Speaker 9: hand on his chest and he continues bleeding into his
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  Speaker 9: chest cavity, it's going to fill up his chest cavity
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  Speaker 9: and it's going to make it hard for him to breathe,
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  Speaker 9: and he'll basically die from the lack of oxygen. That
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  Speaker 9: actually takes longer. From the descriptions I've read from the scene,
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  Speaker 9: he kind of dies in a matter of minutes. To me,
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  Speaker 9: that sounds like a major vessel was hit or the
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  Speaker 9: heart and he was going to die no matter what
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  Speaker 9: was done.
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  Speaker 5: Seventeen year old Austin Metcalf is being held by his
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  Speaker 5: twin brother Hunter, who is trying to stop the bleeding
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  Speaker 5: after seventeen year old Carmelo Anthony allegedly stabs Austin in
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  Speaker 5: the chest, piercing his heart. First responders arrive and take
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  Speaker 5: over treatment of Austin. As officers roundup eyewitnesses to the
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  Speaker 5: event to find out what happened. Hunter Metcalf is so
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  Speaker 5: distraught he can barely speak to police, but officers locate
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  Speaker 5: about two dozen student athletes and four coaches who witness
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  Speaker 5: the stabbing and begin taking statements.
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  Speaker 2: How could a beautiful, young first grade teacher be stabbed
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  Speaker 2: twenty times, including in the back, allegedly die of suicide? Yes,
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  Speaker 2: that was a medical examiner's official ruling after a closed
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  Speaker 2: door meeting, he first named it a homicide. Why what
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  Speaker 2: happened to Ellen Greenberg? A huge American miscarriage of justice.
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  Speaker 2: For an in depth look at the facts, see what
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  Speaker 2: Center for Missing and Exploited Children.
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  Speaker 3: Witnesses report a squabble over seating at a track meet tent,
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  Speaker 3: resulting in the fatal stabbing of football star Austin Metcalf.
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  Speaker 3: The suspect, a fellow seventeen year old student.
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  Speaker 2: Athlete, listen to Austin's brother.
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  Speaker 10: First off Roe. Second, I didn't know what to do
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  Speaker 10: and then saw my fall go over there.
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  Speaker 2: The mother, Megan metcalf and so much pain. She can't
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  Speaker 2: even stand to hear the brother Hunter describe what happened.
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  Speaker 2: That is from our friends at the Will Caine Show
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  Speaker 2: over on Fox joining me an All Star panel to
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  Speaker 2: kV Barber joining me from my San Antonio dot com.
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  Speaker 1: Kavey, explain to me the.
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  Speaker 2: Logistics of what Hunter, the twin brother just said.
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  Speaker 1: Where was he, what did he observe.
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  Speaker 2: And what, if anything, did he do when he saw
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  Speaker 2: his brother stabbed. I don't know if he saw the
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  Speaker 2: actual stabbing or saw his brother gushing blood.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not sure. Please explain.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, when police arrived, they immediately. They said they could
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  Speaker 6: see blood.
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  Speaker 1: On and around him.
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  Speaker 6: They coordinated with officers to secure the area. He said
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  Speaker 6: that he whipped around. In another interview, he said he
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  Speaker 6: didn't see the stabbing take place, but he was turning
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  Speaker 6: around quickly and saw the aftermath and held him in
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  Speaker 6: his arms after the stabbing, but did not see it
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  Speaker 6: take place.
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  Speaker 1: He said that. In an interview after the event.
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  Speaker 2: He says, at first he froze for just a moment
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  Speaker 2: and didn't know what to do. Then he actually saw
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  Speaker 2: brother Austin fall and ran to him and grabbed him
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  Speaker 2: and tried to stop the flow of blood.
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  Speaker 1: Joining me.
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  Speaker 2: Doctor John Delatory, psychologist, mediator specializing in forensic psychology.
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  Speaker 1: Dog Delatory, thank you for being with us.
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  Speaker 2: What is that human reaction when you freeze for just
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  Speaker 2: one moment, Well, it's.
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  Speaker 11: A trauma response, number one. It's the idea that what
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  Speaker 11: you're seeing your brain can't interpret immediately. It's seeing, it's
• 20:39
  Speaker 11: witnessing everything that's happening, but it's such a difficult thing
• 20:44
  Speaker 11: for your brain to interpret because of the trauma associated
• 20:47
  Speaker 11: with it. He's seeing his brother get stabbed, he's seeing
• 20:52
  Speaker 11: the blood, or he's seeing all of this stuff, but
• 20:56
  Speaker 11: his body isn't recognizing what it needs to do because
• 21:00
  Speaker 11: it doesn't know what it needs to do because it's
• 21:02
  Speaker 11: never seen anything like this before. And so he's trying
• 21:07
  Speaker 11: to catch up with what his eyes are looking at.
• 21:11
  Speaker 11: And because it's his brother, and because of the connection
• 21:15
  Speaker 11: these two have, it becomes that much more difficult. Now
• 21:19
  Speaker 11: once he does catch up, he's able to catch his brother,
• 21:22
  Speaker 11: he's able to do what he can, but he's not
• 21:25
  Speaker 11: a doctor. He's not a paramedic, he's not an EMT.
• 21:28
  Speaker 11: That's his brother, and the trauma of all of this
• 21:32
  Speaker 11: unfolding is also impairing his ability to do what it
• 21:37
  Speaker 11: needs to do. Call the police, call for other people, right.
• 21:40
  Speaker 11: A lot of the witnesses have to do those kinds
• 21:42
  Speaker 11: of things because Hunter is so focused on trying to
• 21:46
  Speaker 11: save his brother.
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: A school resource officer first to the scene, take a
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: listen to.
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: What the suspect says.
• 21:52
  Speaker 12: A school resource officer is first on the scene and
• 21:55
  Speaker 12: confronts Carmelo Anthony, telling the suspect to put his hands
• 21:58
  Speaker 12: up in the air. Anthony tells the officer, I was
• 22:00
  Speaker 12: protecting myself, claiming metcalf quote put his hands on him, Anthony.
• 22:06
  Speaker 12: Here's the officer saying he has the alleged stabbing suspect
• 22:09
  Speaker 12: in custody, and Anthony replies, I'm not alleged I did it.
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: Wow, I'm not alleged I did it. Joining me now.
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  Speaker 2: In addition to our other guest, Barry Hutchinson, renowned law
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: enforcement that of twenty six years detective now chief operator
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: of very In Associates Investigative Services.
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: Very thank you for being with us.
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: Did you hear what the suspect said, keeping in mind
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: that at this juncture the suspect is innocent until proven guilty.
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: But very earlier we heard that there are about.
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: Two dozen witnesses this is a high school track meet
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: for Pete's sake, that said, did you hear what the
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: suspect said? And I quote, I was protecting myself that
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: Austin quote put his hands on me, And that would
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: be suspect Carmelo Anthony. Austin put his hands on Carmelo Anthony.
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: According to Anthony Anthony, here's the school resource officer say
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: he has the alleged stabbing suspect and responds, I'm not
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: alleged I did it.
• 23:19
  Speaker 13: Yeah, that's a pretty damning utterance from an evidentiary value.
• 23:24
  Speaker 13: And you know, he pretty much admitted to the crime
• 23:29
  Speaker 13: by making that statement.
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: Kate Barry, Barry, I know that. I just read you
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: what he said.
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: I'm asking you what the state is going to do
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: to prove that and what the defense is going to
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: do to try to get away from it.
• 23:44
  Speaker 13: Well, the witnesses are going to contradict what he says anyway,
• 23:48
  Speaker 13: And you know there's twelve of those folks, apparently or more,
• 23:53
  Speaker 13: and they're going to make a statement that contradicts what
• 23:55
  Speaker 13: he says. It's pretty much going to outweigh what he says.
• 23:58
  Speaker 13: The state's going to move form prosecution. From that point,
• 24:02
  Speaker 13: his defense is going to be that it's you know
• 24:04
  Speaker 13: what he said originally, that it was self defense, that
• 24:07
  Speaker 13: he was in fear of his life, which it's going
• 24:09
  Speaker 13: to be awful hard and substantiate that, as you addressed earlier,
• 24:12
  Speaker 13: without the thread of equal violence to substantiate him using deadly.
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: Forced Lisa Herrick joining me, veteran trial lawyer.
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: In this jurisdiction, Lisa explain again in a nutshell what
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: is now emerging.
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: As to defense. And you know what, I haven't even
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: gotten to.
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: These sick conspiracy theories that are multiplying promulgating online. Get
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: to that in a moment. But I pray that Austin's
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: parents have not seen what is being said online. It's
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: total BS technical legal term. But Lisa in a nutshell
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: in regular people talk, do not throw a Latin phrase
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: at me, Lisa Herrick, and I know that you can
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: stand your ground, how and the hey is that going
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: to apply here? We normally think of it as let's
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: just say, somebody tries to break in your house, you
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: don't have to run. You can shoot them right then
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: and there. If you're so disposed standing your ground. You're
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: in a place you're supposed to be, you have authority
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: to be there, and no one can make you leave. Now,
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: explain how that's going to work in a high school
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: track tent.
• 25:24
  Speaker 7: Right, stand your ground. We commonly use the phrase no
• 25:27
  Speaker 7: duty to retreat, so it some places will, like some
• 25:33
  Speaker 7: jurisdictions will require that you attempt to remove yourself from
• 25:37
  Speaker 7: the danger. That's not the case in Texas. In Texas,
• 25:40
  Speaker 7: if you're presented with a threat, with a danger, you
• 25:42
  Speaker 7: have the right to defend yourself and stand your ground
• 25:45
  Speaker 7: means you don't have to try to leave the danger first.
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: Well, I'm reading the supplemental arrest report and the narrative
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: is written by Officer Edorado Cortes. Cortes states suspect was
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: on on.
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: The track at the north end. There was a chain.
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: Link that separated officer Cortes from the suspect. Cortes gives
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: the suspect instructions to keep his hands in the air,
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: and at this time suspect verbally said out loud and
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: this is considered a voluntary statement. Quote, I was protecting myself.
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: Cortes goes on to note he had not questioned the
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: suspect about the incident, but suspect blurted that out. Then stated,
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: while walking him off the track, suspects states, quote, he
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: put his hands on me. Katie Barber joining me, senior
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: digital content producer my san Antonio dot Com, Katie. My
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: understanding from having read the police reports and the witness
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: statements is that the suspect goes under the other size tint, right,
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: the other school's tint. At that point, Austin says, this
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: isn't your tent, get.
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: Out of here.
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: At that point, at that point, what does the suspect do?
• 27:20
  Speaker 6: Police says that when he's told to move out of
• 27:23
  Speaker 6: the tent, that he grabbed his bag, opened it and
• 27:26
  Speaker 6: reached inside. And this is when he tells Austin touch
• 27:31
  Speaker 6: me and see what happens, according.
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: To police, and so naturally Austin touched him, Yeah, exactly.
• 27:37
  Speaker 6: Police say that he proceeded to touch Carmelo, and then Carmelo
• 27:42
  Speaker 6: then postures and tells Anthony and tells Austin to punch
• 27:46
  Speaker 6: him and see what happens a short time later.
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: Police don't say, so you're understanding, Katie Barber, where any
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: punches THROWNE Did Austin ever hit the suspect hit?
• 27:59
  Speaker 6: It doesn't say. It says he grabbed Anthony after that
• 28:02
  Speaker 6: threat to tell him to move, but it doesn't. But
• 28:04
  Speaker 6: police do not say. Witnesses did not tell police that
• 28:07
  Speaker 6: he was punched. But when he was grabbed by Austin
• 28:11
  Speaker 6: is when he pulled out the knife and stabbed him
• 28:14
  Speaker 6: once in the chest, is what police say.
• 28:17
  Speaker 3: A witness reported a police escort Carmelo Anthony to a
• 28:21
  Speaker 3: squad car. Anthony says he put his hands on me.
• 28:24
  Speaker 3: I told him not to. Anthony also asks officers if
• 28:27
  Speaker 3: the victim was going to be okay and if what
• 28:31
  Speaker 3: happened could be considered self defense. Officers take evidence photos
• 28:35
  Speaker 3: showing blood on Anthony's hands, but don't find the knife
• 28:38
  Speaker 3: on him.
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: How could a beautiful, young first grade teacher be stabbed
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: twenty times, including in the back, allegedly die of suicide? Yes,
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: that was a medical examiner's official ruling after a closed
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: door meeting. He first named it a homicide. Why what
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: happened to Ellen Green? A huge American miscarriage of justice.
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: For an in depth look at the facts, see what
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: Happened to Ellen on Amazon. All proceeds to the National
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: Center for Missing and Exploited Children. How does a teen boy,
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: a twin star athlete in Texas end up stabbed dead
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: at a track meet of all places?
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: Listen to US's dad.
• 29:33
  Speaker 8: Great haunting trip with me and him and Austin and say,
• 29:38
  Speaker 8: I'm gonna come over and see you this week, so
• 29:41
  Speaker 8: can look forward to it. Hey, So I love you.
• 29:44
  Speaker 8: Dad has to love you, Tucson. Those were the last words.
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: Ever heard from me, the father and the twin speaking
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: to our friends at Dallas Morning News. What about the
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: blood evidence in this case? With conflicting witness reports, with
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: the suspect claiming self defense is stand your ground although
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: no punches were seen thrown, that blood evidence becomes critical.
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: Remember it was raining, the track meet is outside.
• 30:16
  Speaker 5: Listen as law enforcement and paramedics arrive on scene. The
• 30:20
  Speaker 5: rain is falling harder. One officer moves the memorial tent
• 30:23
  Speaker 5: over the victim of medics trained to save his life,
• 30:25
  Speaker 5: and finding the bloody knife in the stands, quickly takes
• 30:28
  Speaker 5: photos of it before the rain could wash away. All
• 30:30
  Speaker 5: the blood. A blue tarp is used to cover the
• 30:33
  Speaker 5: knife in an effort to preserve the evidence, and because
• 30:36
  Speaker 5: it was so windy, the officer uses a nearby backpack
• 30:39
  Speaker 5: to weigh down the tarp. He doesn't realize at the
• 30:42
  Speaker 5: time the backpack belongs to suspect Carmelo Anthony photo.
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: No, juris don't want just a photo.
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: They want DNA, do yoxuribo and nukleic acid. Straight out
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: to renown medical examiner, doctor Kendall Crowns joining us from
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: this jurisdiction of Texas.
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: Dodger Kendall Crowns the.
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: Murder what we believe to be the murder weapon, a
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: knife covered in blood had been thrown or obscured. Let
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: me just say ephemistically, and it was pouring rain. What's
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: the likelihood that we can get DNA off that knife?
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: Because the state needs the suspects DNA and the victim's
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: DNA off that knife, Well, they.
• 31:31
  Speaker 9: Should probably still be able to get DNA from it,
• 31:34
  Speaker 9: unless it was scrubbed clean with a cleanser or a
• 31:38
  Speaker 9: soap of something of that nature. There's probably still enough
• 31:40
  Speaker 9: DNA on the handle on the knife itself to be
• 31:44
  Speaker 9: able to get a good DNA sample. Also, you have
• 31:48
  Speaker 9: to figure because of the contact between the two boys,
• 31:51
  Speaker 9: there's probably a way of getting DNA from the victim
• 31:54
  Speaker 9: as well.
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: Kat Barber, where exactly was the knife discovered?
• 31:58
  Speaker 6: It was discovered in the bleachers on the north side
• 32:01
  Speaker 6: of the stage at stadium, which is where.
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: The hey did he get in the blazers, Katie?
• 32:06
  Speaker 6: He ran off after the stabbing. It didn't quite say
• 32:10
  Speaker 6: a total direction, but he did run off. And it's
• 32:12
  Speaker 6: presumed that he threw the knife when he ran off,
• 32:15
  Speaker 6: because he didn't have the weapon on him when he
• 32:17
  Speaker 6: was detained.
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: Right a minute, right there, Katie barbermisan Antonio dot Com
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: to doctor John Delatory. If someone attacked me, and I
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: thought back, I wouldn't take off running and then hi
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: the weapon.
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you wouldn't.
• 32:34
  Speaker 11: But here's the thing is that if Anthony saw a
• 32:37
  Speaker 11: bunch of other people, dozens of other people that were
• 32:40
  Speaker 11: also around and in that tent, he might have felt overwhelmed,
• 32:44
  Speaker 11: he might have felt scared. He could have done all
• 32:46
  Speaker 11: of these things just as a matter of panic. So
• 32:50
  Speaker 11: he runs off knowing that he shouldn't have stabbed this person,
• 32:53
  Speaker 11: but he did it anyway. He throws a knife away,
• 32:56
  Speaker 11: he takes off thinking that he's going to get very far.
• 32:59
  Speaker 11: There's all of things that could be happening, because it
• 33:02
  Speaker 11: does not appear as though he intended to go to
• 33:06
  Speaker 11: that track meet with the specific purpose to kill Austin Metcalf.
• 33:10
  Speaker 11: It does seem like things were going on underneath that
• 33:13
  Speaker 11: tent that neither one of these two boys were prepared for,
• 33:17
  Speaker 11: and both are now suffering the consequences, with Austin having
• 33:21
  Speaker 11: lost his life for some kind of nonsense.
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: Lisa Herrik, you see where this is going.
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: The state is going to argue to a jury he
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: ran off and disposed of the weapon because he.
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: Knew what he did was wrong.
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: And then immediately began forming a defense in his mind
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: and even asked law enforcement, Hey, could that be self defense?
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: You think that's self defense?
• 33:45
  Speaker 7: There are a couple of things that cut in favor
• 33:47
  Speaker 7: of the self defense argument, and those are that he
• 33:51
  Speaker 7: did run away if he was scared, and he.
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: So he stabsa Austin scared.
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: Isn't he the one that said touch me and find out?
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: Is that he the one to say, go, oh, punch me,
• 34:05
  Speaker 2: just see what happens. That doesn't sound scared to me, I.
• 34:08
  Speaker 7: Don't disagree with you, but getting into his mind for
• 34:10
  Speaker 7: a moment, and the argument that the defense is going
• 34:12
  Speaker 7: to make right, they have to come up with someone
• 34:14
  Speaker 7: I do.
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: I have to get in his mind.
• 34:16
  Speaker 7: So if he'll say I was scared, I stabbed him.
• 34:20
  Speaker 7: I felt like the danger was subdued enough that I
• 34:24
  Speaker 7: could now safely escape, then then I can see how
• 34:28
  Speaker 7: running away would cut in favor of self defense.
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: I can see what you're saying. How running away?
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: Okay, you just said, have you ever heard the price
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: word salad? Because I heard one. Okay, wait a minute,
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: what did you say about the threat was subdued? You
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: may he stabbed Austin in the chest? Is that what
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: you're talking about? So if the threat is subdued, why
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: run then?
• 34:53
  Speaker 7: Because there were plenty of other people around who were
• 34:58
  Speaker 7: potentially new dangers, right, people who saw him.
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: So now I don't know what you're saying. You're making
• 35:04
  Speaker 2: that up like a good defense attorney. What other people
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: presented a danger? Nobody?
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: What are you serious? Well, I mean, he stabs Austin
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: dead and then he is in danger.
• 35:17
  Speaker 7: Of what retribution? People who want to hurt him. Now
• 35:20
  Speaker 7: that Carmelo hurt.
• 35:21
  Speaker 4: Their friend was able to see my son only gurney
• 35:27
  Speaker 4: with a huge hole and blow all over him and
• 35:29
  Speaker 4: they were pumping him. He wasn't breathing.
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: His eyes would rolled back in his head. From our
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: friends at Fox four.
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace, the alleged killer Carmelo Anthony
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: walks free from jail after a controversial decision by a
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: judge to lower his bond on charges he stabbed and
• 35:57
  Speaker 2: killed Austin Metcalf, who was unarmed at the time he
• 36:02
  Speaker 2: was stabbed. What more do we know? No one saw
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: punches being thrown, nothing like that. The suspect and the
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: victim had never even met, according to sources.
• 36:15
  Speaker 10: Listen, and then I went my head around and then
• 36:18
  Speaker 10: all sudden I see him run another bleach grabbing his chest.
• 36:22
  Speaker 10: Just a lot of us are now, he said, the South.
• 36:27
  Speaker 2: There you see Austin's brother Hunter speaking out. From our
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: friends at the Whealcane Show on Fox. Why ask why?
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: How many times has that been said in a courtroom?
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: A million?
• 36:41
  Speaker 2: But as you all know, the state is never required
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: to show motive. Teams kill for apparently no reason at all.
• 36:50
  Speaker 5: Listen, high school Spanish teacher noih. Mcgrabor is known for
• 36:53
  Speaker 5: enjoying an afternoon walk at a park in Fairfield, Iowa,
• 36:56
  Speaker 5: when she turns up missing. Retracing her steps begins in
• 36:59
  Speaker 5: the park. The body is found covered by a tarp, wheelbarrow,
• 37:03
  Speaker 5: and railroad ties, and she suffered head trauma. Cops don't
• 37:06
  Speaker 5: have to look much further than incriminating social media posts
• 37:09
  Speaker 5: of two sixteen year old students, Jeremy Goodell and Willard Miller,
• 37:13
  Speaker 5: from the school where Graver teaches.
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: One of the high schoolers thought they might get a
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: bad grade, and so two of them go and murder
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: the tea shirt.
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: Yes, so I murder over what I c minus.
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: Then there is another star student all A's that commits
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: murder Derrick Rossa.
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: I need to know if your mom is is greeting,
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: she said, Miss, I have the gun with me.
• 37:46
  Speaker 8: I was going to shoot myself, but I didn't want to.
• 37:49
  Speaker 10: I hope more family members they can take care of
• 37:51
  Speaker 10: my sister.
• 37:52
  Speaker 7: I took take schuldres.
• 37:53
  Speaker 6: And I told my friend about it was that bad.
• 37:56
  Speaker 2: That is teen boy Derek Rossa. Bill don't know any
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: motive as to why he killed his mother, and then
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: sent the photo of her sleeping in bed, now dead
• 38:09
  Speaker 2: to friends, then asking was that bad that I killed
• 38:14
  Speaker 2: her and sent photos to friends? So attain kills for
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: what motive?
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: None? And there's more.
• 38:21
  Speaker 5: Tristan Bailey, last scene wearing her cheerleader uniform, went missing
• 38:25
  Speaker 5: on Mother's Day in Jacksonville, Florida. Surveillance video shows her
• 38:29
  Speaker 5: at one fifteen am. She's walking with a fourteen year
• 38:32
  Speaker 5: old classmate, Aidan Fucci. When police pick up Fucci for questioning,
• 38:36
  Speaker 5: he posts a photo of himself in the back of
• 38:38
  Speaker 5: a police car giving the V sign with the caption,
• 38:40
  Speaker 5: Hey guys, has anybody seen Tristan lately? He also posted
• 38:44
  Speaker 5: a Snapchat video having fun in a beep cop car.
• 38:48
  Speaker 5: Tristan's body is discovered in a secluded wooded area. She's
• 38:51
  Speaker 5: been stabbed one hundred and fourteen times.
• 38:54
  Speaker 2: This little girl was not raped, was not assaulted, There
• 38:57
  Speaker 2: was no robbery.
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: So what was the motive? Apparently none and more.
• 39:03
  Speaker 5: Jay Williams is fifteen years old. The day he and
• 39:06
  Speaker 5: sixteen year old Randy Thompson lewre a fellow classmate, Michael
• 39:09
  Speaker 5: Russell to his own home, where they stab him multiple
• 39:12
  Speaker 5: times in the chest, back and neck. Russell's mother returns
• 39:15
  Speaker 5: home from running errands and finds his lifeless body in
• 39:18
  Speaker 5: the backyard. Williams and Thompson say they wanted to see
• 39:21
  Speaker 5: what it felt like to kill someone.
• 39:23
  Speaker 2: Lisa Herrick joining us that are in trial lawyer in
• 39:26
  Speaker 2: this jurisdiction of Texas, so number one for Austin. Even
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: if this did happen to have touched the suspect.
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: On the shoulder and said get out of our.
• 39:37
  Speaker 2: Tent, that is not going to justify under self defense
• 39:43
  Speaker 2: a deadly attack with a knife. And as far as motive,
• 39:49
  Speaker 2: you just heard all of those similar cases where teens kill,
• 39:53
  Speaker 2: they don't really have a motive.
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: The state doesn't have to prove motive, do they. The
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: state does not have to prove motive.
• 40:00
  Speaker 7: And that's mainly because it is nearly impossible to get
• 40:05
  Speaker 7: into the mind of a charged a defendant unless they
• 40:08
  Speaker 7: tell you what they were thinking. In this case, we
• 40:12
  Speaker 7: know that Carmelo is going to claim self depends, but
• 40:15
  Speaker 7: we don't know what he was actually thinking, and so
• 40:16
  Speaker 7: the state wouldn't be able to prove a motive without
• 40:19
  Speaker 7: knowing what he was actually thinking.
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: How could a beautiful, young first grade teacher be stabbed
• 40:24
  Speaker 2: twenty times, including in the back allegedly die of suicide. Yes,
• 40:31
  Speaker 2: that was a medical examiner's official ruling after a closed
• 40:35
  Speaker 2: door meeting he first named it a homicide. Why what
• 40:39
  Speaker 2: happened to Ellen Greenberg? A huge American miscarriage of justice.
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: For an in depth look at the facts, see what
• 40:51
  Speaker 2: Happened to Ellen? On Amazon. All proceeds to the National
• 40:56
  Speaker 2: Center for Missing and Exploited Children. Teen boy Austin Metcalf
• 41:03
  Speaker 2: stamped dead at a high school track mate. Apparently no
• 41:09
  Speaker 2: justification for the stabbing, but at this hour, evil sick
• 41:14
  Speaker 2: conspiracy theories are promulgating online, including a fake autopsy report
• 41:20
  Speaker 2: Katie Yes.
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  Speaker 6: The fake autopsy report that has been police have warned about.
• 41:27
  Speaker 6: Police have issued multiple warnings publicly on their social media
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  Speaker 6: channels about false statements from the police chief that have
• 41:35
  Speaker 6: not come from him, as well as this medical report
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  Speaker 6: that shows the primary cause of death being a drug
• 41:42
  Speaker 6: overdose with the secondary cause of death being a stab wound.
• 41:47
  Speaker 6: Police have said that report has not been released, so
• 41:49
  Speaker 6: any sort of images purporting to be the autopsy report
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  Speaker 6: are not true.
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  Speaker 2: Texas Police as we go to air warning about misinformation
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  Speaker 2: being promulgated on line, they are also warning people Katie
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  Speaker 2: Barber not to disseminate the false theories under threat of
• 42:09
  Speaker 2: what hampering, a hampering or handering a police investigation.
• 42:14
  Speaker 6: Yes, and they've also said that people who are pretending
• 42:18
  Speaker 6: to be officials like propagating this information can also be
• 42:22
  Speaker 6: charged with a third degree felony of impersonating a public servant.
• 42:26
  Speaker 6: So there are charges at play, and they are investigating
• 42:29
  Speaker 6: with the FBI into these matters.
• 42:32
  Speaker 2: What kind of an evil, sick person would create a
• 42:37
  Speaker 2: fake autopsy report suggesting that this boy, a star athlete,
• 42:43
  Speaker 2: died of a drug overdose. But obviously it's someone that
• 42:48
  Speaker 2: is signing with the suspect and trying to tarnish the
• 42:52
  Speaker 2: reputation of a young boy, a young boy with all
• 42:57
  Speaker 2: as star athlete and beloved Twin.
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: Speaking of Twin, listen to his brother Hunter, We're just
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: one person.
• 43:03
  Speaker 10: We did everything the same.
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: We're just exactly a lie, Twighton.
• 43:07
  Speaker 8: We had no we had a.
• 43:08
  Speaker 10: Couple of differences, but most of the stuff we did
• 43:11
  Speaker 10: together and the stuff we had this he fell as
• 43:13
  Speaker 10: one person. So it's like we disconnected so well, and
• 43:16
  Speaker 10: everything we did.
• 43:16
  Speaker 2: At a press conference for the alleged killer, Carmelo Anthony,
• 43:21
  Speaker 2: the father of the victim, Austin Metcalf, is led out
• 43:26
  Speaker 2: of the press conference. Chaos surrounds this case, but at
• 43:32
  Speaker 2: the heart of the case, a teen boy has been stabbed.
• 43:38
  Speaker 2: Is there a defense We don't know yet. This must
• 43:41
  Speaker 2: play out in a court of law. We wait as
• 43:45
  Speaker 2: just as some folds. Goodbye friend,