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NOLAN WELLS BOMBSHELL: DEATH-THREAT "BLOOD, SO MUCH BLOOD" · Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

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Speaker 1: Bobshell tonight in the investigation of the death of a
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Speaker 1: young man, Nolan Wells' death threats are flying. One actually
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Speaker 1: says there's going to be blood, so much blood. Another
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Speaker 1: death threat says don't go outside. How can anybody do
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Speaker 1: their jobs when they're getting death threats. Not only that,
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Speaker 1: we understand this case is headed to eight grand jury,
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Speaker 1: we also learned tonight that the state's autopsy is complete,
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Speaker 1: but is being kept secret. Isn't an autopsy a public document?
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Speaker 1: Why is it being kept hidden from us the public?
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Speaker 1: What is in that autopsy? The first autopsy of Nolan Wells.
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Speaker 1: Good evening, I mean, sy Grace, this is Crime Stories.
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Speaker 1: I want to thank you for being with us.
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Speaker 2: The young lady Katie that he was hanging out with,
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Speaker 2: I saw a text message from her alluding to the
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Speaker 2: fact that she never saw him get on that boat
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Speaker 2: at all. They could have been saying, don't die or
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Speaker 2: is it dead reference to the Bills pump. Somebody would
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Speaker 2: have seen something if there was a dramatic commotion like
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Speaker 2: this occurrent on that boat.
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Speaker 1: I hope Nolan Wills died by accident. I'm not shutting
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Speaker 1: down our Crime Stories investigation until I know Joe Scott
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Speaker 1: follow up. I'm not arguing in Burkharts. Let's learn if
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Speaker 1: we can from what he's saying. Jump.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, So whatever has been the causal factors here has
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Speaker 3: got to marry up with what they were seeing at
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Speaker 3: the scene. And perhaps the audio does fall into this,
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Speaker 3: you know, these statements, and I think that probably from
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Speaker 3: a medical legal perspective, that is, the corner and the
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Speaker 3: medical examiner are going to want to be able to
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Speaker 3: fully appreciate what is being said here from a timeline.
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Speaker 3: This is absence the police's investigation. They're going to try
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Speaker 3: to rule in or rule out what they're seeing presenting
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Speaker 3: on Nolan's remains when they finally did receive them at
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Speaker 3: the State Medical Examiner's office and that examination began. And
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Speaker 3: this is going to be critical and key, you know,
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Speaker 3: because the causal effects here are going to be critical.
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Speaker 3: You know, we go back to these changes that the
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Speaker 3: second autopes you referred to on the back of the head. Now,
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Speaker 3: the doctor was not able to at that point time,
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Speaker 3: even though he did do a thorough what's referred to
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Speaker 3: as a layered dissection here, he could not establish the
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Speaker 3: causal effects here because the injury or the insult that
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Speaker 3: you see there. This presentation is compromised by decomposition. So
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Speaker 3: what did the state medical examiner see? My problem is here, Nancy,
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Speaker 3: how was the body treated before or after the first autopsy?
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Speaker 3: And the body is transported up to DC. I have
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Speaker 3: questions about this because they're talking about to the degree
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Speaker 3: with which the body was decomposed. The doctor up in
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Speaker 3: d C is seeing significant decomposition. We don't know what
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Speaker 3: they saw in Mississippi, but I do know that you're
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Speaker 3: only talking about what I'm ballparking here. Please give me
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Speaker 3: some grace. Maybe forty eight hours tops before the medical
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Speaker 3: legal authorities have seen the body. So how far degraded
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Speaker 3: is the body to compromising this? And this evidence is
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Speaker 3: going to have to be borne out, not just not
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Speaker 3: just with the physical findings that you see with the
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Speaker 3: unaided eye, but also whatever's going on tox collogeal.
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Speaker 1: I want you to take a careful look at this
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Speaker 1: video we have obtained. Let's see it. Look how tightly
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Speaker 1: everyone is packed in. There were hundreds of people out
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Speaker 1: on Horn Island on July the fourth. What nobody saw
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Speaker 1: what happened to Nolan Wells? They all just left with
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Speaker 1: him standing there stranded waving his arms like Gilligan that
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Speaker 1: that did not happen. Now that you're seeing this, what
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Speaker 1: is an innocent explanation? I'm trying to figure that out.
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Speaker 1: Joining me and I'll circle back to you, Joe Scott,
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Speaker 1: because I've got a lot of questions regarding the way
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Speaker 1: he could have died innocently and been left behind and
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Speaker 1: that sound being true, the sound that Janetta Brantley enhanced.
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Speaker 1: Is there any innocent explanation? Is there a way? As
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Speaker 1: my favorite judge often said, Luther Alberson, it is your
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Speaker 1: duty to make all witnesses speak the truth and in
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Speaker 1: pun perjury to no one. Is there a way that
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Speaker 1: can be done? I don't know that it can. It
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Speaker 1: seems to me that someone is lying. But who joining
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Speaker 1: me now? Teslin Figaro, social justice political commentator, host of
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Speaker 1: the Teslin figure O podcast Mis Pseudo. Thank you for
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Speaker 1: being with us. I'd like to hear your thoughts.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, well, that's what the family is saying. They don't
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Speaker 4: believe he died by accident. That's the point. That's the
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Speaker 4: reason why Nolan Well's mom is saying, I don't believe this.
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Speaker 4: I don't believe he died by accident before we had
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Speaker 4: the audio, I mean.
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Speaker 1: Susan way in.
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Speaker 5: I was listening to the enhanced version both of them
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Speaker 5: now not doctor by the way, there's there's a big
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Speaker 5: difference there. Have you ever heard Nancy on Instagram where
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Speaker 5: you listen to two things and your mind goes to
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Speaker 5: what you're thinking of, like car or moonboat? What are
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Speaker 5: we really hearing? I believe that something nefarious did happen
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Speaker 5: where I think the answers will be. Again, this is
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Speaker 5: my opinion, but I believe something happened there, and we're
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Speaker 5: not hearing the full story. And you pointing out, Nancy,
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Speaker 5: how prouded that area was. So let's say what people
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Speaker 5: are claiming that it was an accidental drowning. No one
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Speaker 5: saw Look here at the crowd. Nobody saw what happened,
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Speaker 5: and all of us have our phones on us all
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Speaker 5: the time. No one recorded this. I think the answers
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Speaker 5: are in the timeline and also the autopsy, when we
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Speaker 5: will hear answers there.
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Speaker 1: You're seeing video from the Officer Tatum show, and I
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Speaker 1: don't know what they were trying to show with it,
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Speaker 1: but how can someone be dead and floating in the
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Speaker 1: water and nobody notice which leads me to Susan Hendrix.
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Speaker 1: The fact that we have learned to that these states
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Speaker 1: autopsy is complete, but it's being kept secret.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, absolutely being held for the grand jury to look
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Speaker 5: into that. And the fact that you brought up Nancy
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Speaker 5: earlier that part of his was missing. Will that be key?
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Speaker 5: There's so many questions around us, but right it's a
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Speaker 5: public record, but we're not hearing about it. I guess
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Speaker 5: they're waiting for the grand jury to show them that first.
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Speaker 1: Joe Scott Morgan death investigator, I've never known an autopsy
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Speaker 1: report not to be a public record unless they're claiming
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Speaker 1: ongoing investigation. Now, in the D four VD David Anthony
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Speaker 1: Burke case, the LAPD demanded the medical examiner keep it
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Speaker 1: secret because the medical Examiner's office allegedly was leaking information,
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Speaker 1: possibly for money. Don't know that yet, but I will.
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Speaker 1: How common is that that the medical examiners ordered not
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Speaker 1: to release the Allie autopsy? Why is the autopsy being
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Speaker 1: kept secret because.
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Speaker 3: It's continued investigation? They're going to go to grand jury
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Speaker 3: with this. I can tell you that, I'll bet you
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Speaker 3: dollars to donuts if that's the case. We see it
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Speaker 3: with we saw it with id Ho for right, we
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Speaker 3: didn't have it there. We don't have it with Charlie Kirk.
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Speaker 3: You know, that's an ongoing event. This is this is
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Speaker 3: being investigated and you know the point of contact. Here
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Speaker 3: is an interesting situation here because you have the state
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Speaker 3: Medical Examiner, but you also have a county corner. The
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Speaker 3: state medical Examiner provides a service to the county corner.
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Speaker 3: The corner is an elected official. He does not do
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Speaker 3: these autopsies, and so the corner is going to be
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Speaker 3: the gatekeeper relative to any kind of document. But with
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Speaker 3: that said, under state I think under state statute, the DA,
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Speaker 3: the prosecutor they can say, look, you're going to hold
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Speaker 3: off on release in this report. So it's being it's
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Speaker 3: being held at this point in time. Now, the reports
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Speaker 3: that we're hearing are saying that it is complete. Now
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Speaker 3: what does that mean. Well, if you have a complete
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Speaker 3: autopsy report, that means safety talks. They've probably got histology
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Speaker 3: which is going to be the tissue studies, and they
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Speaker 3: actually have the anatomical autopsy report that has been completed.
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Speaker 3: That's what I think it was ABC that was reporting that.
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Speaker 3: I can't validate that, but that's what is being leaked
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Speaker 3: out at this point in time, so they have their support.
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Speaker 3: I think the question is, and this goes back to you,
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Speaker 3: my friend, is that if this is going to be
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Speaker 3: a grand jury thing, when is it going and when
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Speaker 3: is the medical examder going to be called and summoned
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Speaker 3: to speak to this. That's what everybody's going to be
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Speaker 3: hanging on in my opinion.
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Speaker 1: You mentioned the Tals report, that's a blood panel done.
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Speaker 1: Was he drinking, was he using drugs? A lot? Had
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Speaker 1: had he been given?
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Speaker 3: Someone?
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Speaker 1: Witnesses stating no one was drunk? Okay? Does that really
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Speaker 1: change anything? Does that change anything? Unless he died of
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Speaker 1: acute alcohol poisoning? Because I guarantee you ain't anybody on
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Speaker 1: that boat that's afraid of a cocktail. Okay, So if
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Speaker 1: he was drinking, what difference does that make and whether
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Speaker 1: he was killed or whether he died of an accident.
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Speaker 3: Joe Scott, Well, listen, Nancy. I know you're a teetotaler,
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Speaker 3: but let me tell you something. The drunker you get,
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Speaker 3: the more alcohol you take on board, it lessens your
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Speaker 3: ability to defend yourself, It lessens your ability to make
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Speaker 3: good decisions. And so we see this played out all
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Speaker 3: the time in the medical legal world, and that's going
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Speaker 3: to be the measure here, I think relative to the toks.
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Speaker 3: Everybody wants to see the toxicology because that's going to
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Speaker 3: give us an idea chemically, what is in this young
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Speaker 3: man's system. Was he able to do for himself at
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Speaker 3: that point in time, And that's another problem that arises.
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Speaker 1: It's a double edged sword. Joe Scott rightly he was
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Speaker 1: drunk and could not defend himself against an attack. You
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Speaker 1: could also argue he was drunk and hit his head
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Speaker 1: and then they go, oh, my stars, he's dead. But
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Speaker 1: wouldn't that have shown up in the autopsy if he did,
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Speaker 1: if he died by a blow of the head, be
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Speaker 1: it accidental or nefarious, wouldn't that have shown up?
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Speaker 3: Yeah, And keep in mind the second physician that did
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Speaker 3: the autopsy, who by the way, is highly respect to
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Speaker 3: the former chief medical Examiner for DC that was retained
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Speaker 3: by the family. He didn't see any evidence of fractures.
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Speaker 3: All right. Now, that doesn't mean that there wasn't a
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Speaker 3: concussive event. I'm talking about being hitting ahead and you
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Speaker 3: can have stuff that's that's contained within the cranial vault
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Speaker 3: that might not be presenting. But again back to what
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Speaker 3: I said earlier, I find it very interesting that this
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Speaker 3: doctor is commenting on the state of the decomposition when
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Speaker 3: he sees the body, and that's problematic. It's very problematic
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Speaker 3: when you're trying to make an assessment. You're already absent,
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Speaker 3: You're already absent the organs of the neck, you're absent
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Speaker 3: intact lungs, and you know because the specter of drowning
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Speaker 3: is on the table as well, So if you want
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Speaker 3: to make a thorough scientific assessment, he's kind of handcuffed
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Speaker 3: Atney at this point. And again going back to this idea,
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Speaker 3: how long did it take them to get his body
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Speaker 3: to DC and why was it in such a state
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Speaker 3: of decomposition when it arrived.
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Speaker 1: Franz at Borghart, joining US veteran trial lawyer out of
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Speaker 1: the Baton Rouge jurisdiction. Speaking of talks toxicology results Number one,
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Speaker 1: they don't take that long unless you want them to.
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Speaker 1: Number two, there is doubt if he died by accident
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Speaker 1: having consumed a lot of alcohol, was their cover up
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Speaker 1: or did he die from a nefarious act? So the
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Speaker 1: alcohol intake could cut either way.
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Speaker 6: Franz I think you're spot on. I think that the
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Speaker 6: reasonable doubt if someone gets arrested and accused of this
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Speaker 6: crime is going to be if the toxicology shows a
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Speaker 6: high BAC in the absence of anything else what you
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Speaker 6: yourself said. Could it have been foul play where he
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Speaker 6: couldn't defend himself, or foul play insomuch as he got
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Speaker 6: injured because he was quote unquote drunk, that that remains
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Speaker 6: to be seen. But I don't discount.
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Speaker 1: The fact that you're saying foul play. But it could
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Speaker 1: have been something as simple as horsing around on the
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Speaker 1: boat and him hitting his head. It could be somebody
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Speaker 1: whacking him in the head. It could be fine him
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Speaker 1: in the water, face down. And this mark on the
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Speaker 1: back of his head is some type of fluid dispersement,
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Speaker 1: which I don't believe because it was nowhere else on
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Speaker 1: the body except right there. And if your blood is
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Speaker 1: going to sink to the lowest level upon death, it
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Speaker 1: would be all over the body. But we're not seeing that.
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Speaker 1: So why is the just the occipital have the deep
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Speaker 1: red markings? So many many questions, and let me stress
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Speaker 1: before you bother sending me another death threat. We don't
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Speaker 1: know the answers to George Olivo joining us. He's a
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Speaker 1: former FBI special agent and polygraph examiner at George Olivo
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Speaker 1: dot com. Okay, George, listen to what Officer Tatum told me.
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Speaker 1: Back to Officer Tatum, star of the Officer Tatum on
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Speaker 1: you two. Have the friends taken polygraphs?
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Speaker 2: Well, from my understanding, all but I believe one took
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Speaker 2: a polygraph and from what was told to me that
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Speaker 2: they all passed. And all of the ones that took
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Speaker 2: a polygraph took one without a lawyer and so and
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Speaker 2: they cooperated with law enforcement. So from my understanding, everybody took.
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Speaker 1: Understand did they tell you they took a poly and pasThe.
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Speaker 2: They told yes, ma'am. They told me that they did it.
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Speaker 2: I wasn't there, so that's why I'm saying. From my understanding,
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Speaker 2: they told me that all the boys except one, which
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Speaker 2: is Warren, I believe, took a polygraph test. All of
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Speaker 2: them did not have lawyers and did it and cooperated
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Speaker 2: with police. Warren also cooperated police. I just believe he
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Speaker 2: didn't take a lot of tech the tests. But Warren
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Speaker 2: is the young man that I interviewed. So according to
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Speaker 2: what they told me. They all took a lot of
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Speaker 2: tech tests and passed, and it's an equivalent of a
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Speaker 2: lot of tech tests. It's not a traditional lot of
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Speaker 2: tech tests, but it's the same theology, uh trying to
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Speaker 2: get to if a person is lying. I don't know
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Speaker 2: the name of it is. It's the equivalent of a
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Speaker 2: lot of technology of different methodology. Yeah, I don't believe
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Speaker 2: it was a polygraph test. I believe they took other
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Speaker 2: stressors in order to analyze it.
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Speaker 1: So then the answer to did they take a polygraph
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Speaker 1: would be no. He's charming, he's well spoken, but that
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Speaker 1: was no. That was a no. They did not take
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Speaker 1: a polygraph test, and not all of them took the
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Speaker 1: as he is calling it the equivalent, Okay, Georgia Levo
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Speaker 1: and my experience as a trial lawyer, there is no
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Speaker 1: equivalent for a polygraph. Tell me the various bodily indicators
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Speaker 1: a polygraph measures.
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Speaker 7: So polygraph does have very specific markers physically, and we're
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Speaker 7: looking for physiological changes in baseline or truth signature. So
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Speaker 7: we're looking at things like respiration, UH, heart rate, electrodermal
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Speaker 7: activity which most people have interpreted sweat land activity, or
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Speaker 7: looking at peripheral movements to try and determine if someone's
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Speaker 7: trying to cheat on the test. So it's quite it's
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Speaker 7: quite extensive, and I think what with the officer Tatum
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Speaker 7: was probably referring to whether you realize it or not,
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Speaker 7: was the voice stress analyzer. Seems that I think you
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Speaker 7: used that word one time some kind of stress or test.
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Speaker 7: It's probably that they might have taken.
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Speaker 1: I'm speaking to an expert, former EPPI Special Agent polygrapher,
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Speaker 1: George Olivo, as I recall just off the top of
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Speaker 1: my head, A polygraph measures things you really cannot control
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Speaker 1: unless you can have studied in practice beating a poly
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Speaker 1: involuntary physical stress response is blood pressure, heart rate, breathing rate,
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Speaker 1: whether you're sweating, tubes around your chest and abdomen, track
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Speaker 1: your breathing and even not just how fast you're breathing,
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Speaker 1: but the depth of your breathing. Does your breathing become shallow?
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Speaker 1: Do you have to pause to take deep breast to
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Speaker 1: calm yourself down? A poly A traditional poly measures cardiovascular activity.
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Speaker 1: There's a blood pressure cuff on your arm and it
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Speaker 1: measures your pulse and your blood pressure fluctuation. It also
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Speaker 1: measures what's called electrodermal activity. What is that? I've had
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Speaker 1: to explain it a million times to yourors. Sensors attached
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Speaker 1: to the fingers measure your sweat, gland activity, and even
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Speaker 1: your skin electrical conductivity. The examiner then asks neutral questions
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Speaker 1: like is your name Georgia Levo? Are you from Cincinnati, Ohio?
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Speaker 1: Are you from La California? Are you a polygrapher? Were
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Speaker 1: you with the FBI? Were you there when Nolan Wills died?
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Speaker 1: That's how that would work. You would lay a foundation
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Speaker 1: of non disturbing questions, baseline questions. They're called to get
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Speaker 1: the person that's being subjected to a poly to get
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Speaker 1: their baseline heart rate, their blood pressure, and so forth.
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Speaker 1: Then when you hit them with a question regarding the case,
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Speaker 1: you see if there's any change in that. Okay, I
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Speaker 1: know I'm speaking as a layperson, Georgia Levo, but those
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Speaker 1: are some of the things that polygraph measures.
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Speaker 7: You nail that. Yeah, that's right, Nancy. And let me
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Speaker 7: just add that the correlation between deception and physiology is
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Speaker 7: nothing new. It goes back four thousand years back in China.
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Speaker 7: When the emperor was questioning one of their subjects, he
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Speaker 7: would have a doctor standing by to listen to the
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Speaker 7: heart rate to determine if the person was telling the
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Speaker 7: truth or not. We've been studying it ever since.
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Speaker 1: What is the test that Officer Tatum is talking about to?
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Speaker 1: What is he referring I.
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Speaker 7: Think and he was kind of cryptid, maybe intentionally or unintentionally.
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Speaker 7: Maybe he didn't really know, but it sounded like he
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Speaker 7: was referring to a voice stress analyzer. Those are the
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Speaker 7: machines that detect micro stressors electronically in the voice. The
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Speaker 7: research is very weak on that and that type of technology.
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Speaker 7: I guess it's better than nothing, But the bottom line is,
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Speaker 7: I mean, I'm speaking as a polygraph examiner, and I'm
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Speaker 7: saying this no diagnostic tool. And you know this obviously
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Speaker 7: should should ever be used as a final verdict. I mean,
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Speaker 7: it is one just one piece of the truth puzzle.
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Speaker 7: But obviously, if you had a choice between a voice
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Speaker 7: stress analyzer and a polygraph, there's really no comparison. A
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Speaker 7: polygraph is going to be way more.
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Speaker 1: Preferable. Well, I mean, even polygraphs are not allowed in
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Speaker 1: a criminal trial unless both parties stipulate they will be
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Speaker 1: allowed to upfront before the poly's even taken. They are
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Speaker 1: allowed in civil trials. And isn't it true, Georgia Levo,
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Speaker 1: you're the former FBI like Lucifer, isn't it true? The
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Speaker 1: questions matter. They're critical because if you throw opening questions
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Speaker 1: like did you do anything wrong? Or what happened that day?
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Speaker 1: You can't ask questions like that. You really have to
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Speaker 1: ask yes no questions then they can expound upon it.
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Speaker 1: Your questions must be very specific. Isn't that true? One
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Speaker 1: hundred percent?
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Speaker 6: Yeah.
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Speaker 7: Test question construction is something that is going to well,
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Speaker 7: a lot of things are going to make or break
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Speaker 7: a test, but test question construction is key. And something
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Speaker 7: is Let's say you know there's a missing child, a
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Speaker 7: missing person, and you ask someone of interest, are you
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Speaker 7: responsible for their disappearance? Well, that's a terrible question because
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Speaker 7: because you know they may feel morally responsible if only
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Speaker 7: I had been more careful. You know they feel guilty,
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Speaker 7: and so you're asking the wrong question there. So you
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Speaker 7: really have to get or you.
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Speaker 1: Could have asked that grabs the kid off the street,
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Speaker 1: are you responsible for the disappearance? And they go no,
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Speaker 1: because in their mind it's the parent's fault because the
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Speaker 1: child was out on the street. I didn't have anything
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Speaker 1: to do with me. I just gave him a ride
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Speaker 1: before I killed them that said, you can't leave anything
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Speaker 1: open to interpretation, just like you and I are describing.
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Speaker 1: So when I would agree to a polygraph, I never
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Speaker 1: stipulated it would come into court ever. But when I
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Speaker 1: would agree to a polygraph as an investigative tool, I
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Speaker 1: would take part in selecting the questions and creating the questions, because, frankly,
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Speaker 1: let's just be honest, George, A voice stress test where
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Speaker 1: the prosecutor or the investigator is not in charge of
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Speaker 1: the questions ain't worth a hill of beans. Technical legal
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Speaker 1: jargon means nothing to me. I'd agree with you there.
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Speaker 1: Let me put it more clearly, voice stress test my
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Speaker 1: rear end that ain't coming into court. In fact, I
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Speaker 1: wouldn't even pay any attention to it. Now you give
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Speaker 1: me a polygraph where I helped fabricate the questions. Maybe
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Speaker 1: I want to know who is the polygrapher. Is he
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Speaker 1: somebody the defense hires all the time so they're beholden
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Speaker 1: to the defense. No, I want somebody like a lev
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Speaker 1: O that did it with the FBI. So telling me
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Speaker 1: these boys as they call them, their young men, took
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Speaker 1: first it was a polly. Then I find out it's
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Speaker 1: a voice stress test. Took a test and they passed.
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Speaker 1: Said one of them didn't take it. That means nothing.
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Speaker 1: Put them on a poly with questions approved by the state.
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Speaker 1: Then I'll pay attention right now, it's really not worth
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Speaker 1: the that goes in my bread, you know what. Susan
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Speaker 1: Hendricks joining US investigative journalist and reporter death threats, including
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Speaker 1: one that says blood will be everywhere? What was that?
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Speaker 5: That was from a man out of Sacramento now arrested
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Speaker 5: and threatening the judge who is the stepmother of Warren,
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Speaker 5: and talk about frightening, saying a lot of blood. There'll
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Speaker 5: be a lot of blood like there was on the boat,
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Speaker 5: but yours will be much faster.
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Speaker 1: The purp is Joseph Alfredo Vesquez di Mars, arrested Thursday
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Speaker 1: on charges of interstate transmission of threatening communication. Now these
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Speaker 1: are federal documents. What did he threaten? One of the
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Speaker 1: young men's mom with Susan.
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Speaker 5: The threats were against Warren, one of the boys on
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Speaker 5: the boat, his stepmother who is a judge, And it
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Speaker 5: was graphic, it was brutal, saying there will be blood everywhere.
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Speaker 5: Threatening her life talking about on the boat set.
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Speaker 1: It really does. It says that he is sending a
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Speaker 1: bomb to her office that will quote blow you away
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Speaker 1: when you see it. Once that package is open, the
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Speaker 1: timer will start. Then you have ten seconds or less
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Speaker 1: to ask God for forgiveness. So much blood everywhere hard
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Speaker 1: to clean, especially from a boat that was in that letter.
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Speaker 1: And there is another death threat Susan Hendrix to Mississippi
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Speaker 1: law enforcement saying don't go outside. What happened with that?
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Speaker 5: Yeah, Cincinnati, Ohio woman calling two officials out of Mississippi
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Speaker 5: several times, more than twenty five times. Here is her mugshot,
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Speaker 5: and you're right, don't go outside, saying there's a bomb.
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Speaker 5: So the threats are they're taking seriously as they should
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Speaker 5: to arrest.
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Speaker 1: So far, that's right. A woman now accused of bomb
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Speaker 1: threats to government offices related to the Nolan Wills investigation.
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Speaker 1: This is an Ohio woman facing federal charges. Michelle Francine
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Speaker 1: Edwards just charged in the US District Court, Southern District, Mississippi,
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Speaker 1: one count transmitting threatening communications to interstate commerce. Okay, nobody
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Speaker 1: can do their job appropriately when they're under a death threat.
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Speaker 1: That's against Mississippi law enforcement. Trust me, there are people
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Speaker 1: within law enforcement that are trying to do the right thing.
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Speaker 1: Threats on one of the young men's mothers, that's not
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Speaker 1: all tesling figure O. Nolan's family has gotten threats.
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Speaker 4: Too, absolutely, And you know, I don't condone violence on anybody,
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Speaker 4: but I do want to put some context behind this.
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Speaker 4: Dancy as well, I was a police officer in the
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Speaker 4: Air Force. You're talking about government officials meeting. I'm sure
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Speaker 4: the judge has received threats. I'm sure the police officer
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Speaker 4: has received threats. Although they are not they should not happen.
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Speaker 4: But these are individuals that have taken just like you
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Speaker 4: and I have taken on positions that it comes with
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Speaker 4: the territory. You have received death threats. I have received
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Speaker 4: death threats. So the people that's not being talked about
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Speaker 4: that's receiving the death threats is Nolan Wells's mother and father.
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Speaker 4: Why is nobody talking about the death threats with them?
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Speaker 4: They've reported it. Why is it anybody arresting the people
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Speaker 4: who are actually harassing the victims. It's online, it's available
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Speaker 4: for people to see. So I just find it very
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Speaker 4: interesting that there's so much sympathy for a police officer
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Speaker 4: who not only do they receive death threats, they put
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Speaker 4: their life on the line. They signed up and raised
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Speaker 4: their hand to say, hey, pick me for the death
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Speaker 4: threats and pick me to give my very life, as
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Speaker 4: I did in the Air Force.
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Speaker 1: So it is not right what is happening.
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Speaker 4: But we also have to shine a light on the
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Speaker 4: actual victims, the actual people who are grieving the loss
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Speaker 4: of their son, and nobody gives a damn about the
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Speaker 4: death threats that they're rece evening.
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Speaker 1: I want to be very clear, Ms. Figure. You say
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Speaker 1: nobody cares, that's not true. I care. I care. I
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Speaker 1: care about the death threats on Nolan's mother and his
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Speaker 1: family and his team. I also care about death threats
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Speaker 1: on one of these boys mother and on law enforcement.
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Speaker 1: And yes, my first death threat, oh my goodness, came
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Speaker 1: back in the eighties. But guess what, they faxed it
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Speaker 1: to me from the Fulton County jail. So that wasn't
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Speaker 1: much of a mystery. But every time you take a position,
28:52
Speaker 1: you make people angry. The thing is, if these threats,
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Speaker 1: including the ones on no One's mother, the mother, you
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Speaker 1: know what I'm doing all night long till two o'clock,
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Speaker 1: Miss figure, I'm packing my children to go away to college.
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Speaker 1: That's what no one's mother should be doing tonight. She
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Speaker 1: should be getting him ready to go back to school.
29:21
Speaker 1: Instead she's visiting his remains and now death threats. We
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Speaker 1: want justice in this case. We don't want secret grandjury proceedings.
29:41
Speaker 1: We don't want secret medical examiner reports. We want all
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Speaker 1: threats investigated. We want the truth behind that audio. I
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Speaker 1: want to know and I want everybody on that boat polygraphed.
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Speaker 1: We want answers if you know or you think you
30:04
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30:41
Speaker 1: canines die on crime scenes. Protect those canines who protect us.
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Speaker 1: We remember an American hero officer, Brian Huff, Detroit PD,
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Speaker 1: shot in the light of duty after twelve years, leaving
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Speaker 1: behind his wife, Melissa, and their son, Blair. American hero
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Speaker 1: officer Brian Huff Thank you to our guests for being
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Speaker 1: with us tonight, but especially to you for joining us
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Speaker 1: and our search for the truth. However it may pan out,
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Speaker 1: if it brings down the courthouse, Waltz, so be it.
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Speaker 1: We want the truth about Nolan Wills. Nancy Gray signing off,
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Speaker 1: I'll see you tomorrow night, and until then, good night, friend,