Latest / Trend Watch / Episode 107: Michigan Polls, Somali Pirates, and Iraqi Militias
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- 0:04SPEAKER_01: Ready to take a deeper look at where history, politics, and economics all intersect?
- 0:10SPEAKER_01: Well then, you've come to the right place.
- 0:13SPEAKER_01: Each week,
- 0:14SPEAKER_01: here's where we pull back the headlines and focus on the big trends,
- 0:18SPEAKER_01: the stuff that actually shapes our future.
- 0:21SPEAKER_01: Through the noise, we focus on the signal.
- 0:24SPEAKER_01: I'm your host, Neil Howe, and this is Trend Watch.
- 0:30SPEAKER_01: Today is October 1st, 2026, and this is Trend Watch.
- 0:35SPEAKER_01: Welcome back, everyone.
- 0:37SPEAKER_01: As usual, Christian Ford is here.
- 0:40SPEAKER_01: So, Christian, how was your week?
- 0:44SPEAKER_00: It's been pretty good, Neil.
- 0:45SPEAKER_00: Not much to report.
- 0:46SPEAKER_00: I'll just say with walking my dog now every day, I'm really starting to meet my neighbors.
- 0:52SPEAKER_00: You know the old joke,
- 0:53SPEAKER_00: you never meet your neighbors in the city,
- 0:55SPEAKER_00: but now that's changing after all these years.
- 0:58SPEAKER_01: Well, I'm sure they notice all kinds of similarities between you and your dog,
- 1:02SPEAKER_01: and I hesitate to think what those may be.
- 1:05SPEAKER_01: I
- 1:07SPEAKER_01: had an interesting experience this last week calling my mortgage company about a refi.
- 1:16SPEAKER_00: Oh, there you go.
- 1:18SPEAKER_01: This isn't a good time to do that, by the way.
- 1:21SPEAKER_01: So I called them up.
- 1:22SPEAKER_01: I said, I have a 30-year fixed, and how much could you save me if I go to a five-year arm?
- 1:29SPEAKER_01: And they said, you know, in theory, we could save you a lot.
- 1:32SPEAKER_01: But right now, this place is chaos.
- 1:36SPEAKER_01: Call us back in a month.
- 1:39SPEAKER_01: Anyway, I thought that was a good segue to where we're going.
- 1:45SPEAKER_01: As we saw,
- 1:47SPEAKER_01: at least one national mortgage index showed the 30-year mortgage rising
- 1:53SPEAKER_01: to 7.28 this afternoon.
- 1:57SPEAKER_01: Wow.
- 1:58SPEAKER_01: Ouch.
- 1:59SPEAKER_01: If you're in the market for a new home.
- 2:01SPEAKER_01: So why don't we get right into it?
- 2:03SPEAKER_01: Didn't have a lot this last week, but actually plenty of interesting stuff.
- 2:10SPEAKER_01: So why don't we start with the economic indicators?
- 2:13SPEAKER_00: All right, well, we'll do the markets here first.
- 2:15SPEAKER_00: The S&P closed up today 0.19%, but over the last five market days is down 0.49%.
- 2:23SPEAKER_00: Global Dow, not looking as good, closed down today 0.38%, and over the last five days...
- 2:28SPEAKER_00: Basis down 1.23.
- 2:30SPEAKER_00: As for the VIX,
- 2:31SPEAKER_00: that closed today at 16.45,
- 2:34SPEAKER_00: a little higher than what we were seeing the last few weeks.
- 2:37SPEAKER_00: And as for the 10-year Treasury, that's at 5.24%, up 3.5 basis points over the last five days.
- 2:45SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 2:46SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it certainly is.
- 2:47SPEAKER_01: And let's talk about the economic indicators and we can sort of ease right into it.
- 2:52SPEAKER_01: I think the big news in the markets is obviously the ongoing trend.
- 2:57SPEAKER_01: A rise in treasury yields,
- 3:01SPEAKER_01: not so much around the rest of the world,
- 3:04SPEAKER_01: although those are certainly higher than they used to be.
- 3:08SPEAKER_01: So I guess the big news was the GDP revisions and PCE, right?
- 3:13SPEAKER_01: Right.
- 3:14SPEAKER_00: Yeah, PCE was the big news.
- 3:15SPEAKER_00: You know,
- 3:16SPEAKER_00: people thought it didn't rise as much as they were expecting,
- 3:18SPEAKER_00: but there was still a rise for it.
- 3:20SPEAKER_00: So for August, month over month, rose from 0.1% to 0.3%.
- 3:23SPEAKER_00: Year over the year, stayed flat at 3.4%, but core, that also rose from 0.1% to 0.2%.
- 3:32SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I mean,
- 3:34SPEAKER_01: you know,
- 3:34SPEAKER_01: the PCE year over year,
- 3:38SPEAKER_01: if you want to look at,
- 3:39SPEAKER_01: you know, just, you know, year over year numbers, it's 3.36 to 3.42.
- 3:45SPEAKER_01: The month over month annualized is 0.61
- 3:52SPEAKER_01: to 3.79,
- 3:53SPEAKER_01: which is just a figment of the fact that July was a down month.
- 3:57SPEAKER_01: But the core year over year was 2.98 to 3.01.
- 4:02SPEAKER_01: That's up.
- 4:03SPEAKER_01: And the core month over month is 1.52 to 3.01.
- 4:09SPEAKER_01: All four of them are higher, but maybe not as high as people expected.
- 4:15SPEAKER_01: And I think what rallied the market a little bit was the upward revisions to
- 4:21SPEAKER_01: the quarterly GDP, especially for the second quarter.
- 4:26SPEAKER_01: From a 1.5% to 2.2% real annual growth rate
- 4:34SPEAKER_01: in most states,
- 4:35SPEAKER_01: particularly the big coastal states where all the IT is taking place,
- 4:39SPEAKER_01: I took some grim satisfaction in the fact that West Virginia,
- 4:43SPEAKER_01: where I live, had the lowest GDP growth in the nation.
- 4:48SPEAKER_01: At minus 2.3% of GDP.
- 4:51SPEAKER_01: And I can tell you,
- 4:53SPEAKER_01: very few people here really follow what's going on in
- 5:04SPEAKER_01: the whole innovation wave
- 5:05SPEAKER_01: in AI.
- 5:06SPEAKER_01: In fact, they really have very little connection with the S&P 500 in general.
- 5:12SPEAKER_00: They're probably more worried about diesel prices.
- 5:14SPEAKER_00: Well, that's absolutely true.
- 5:16SPEAKER_01: And people in rural America use diesel a lot.
- 5:20SPEAKER_01: I think all the Republican candidates are finding that out in the red zone.
- 5:26SPEAKER_01: And here's what really amazed me.
- 5:28SPEAKER_01: Private,
- 5:29SPEAKER_01: because this is the one that really takes out some of the fluffy stuff that's in
- 5:33SPEAKER_01: the NIPA numbers.
- 5:35SPEAKER_01: Private sales to private domestic purchasers, right?
- 5:39SPEAKER_01: That's just an acid bottom line.
- 5:42SPEAKER_01: You know, you're taking out government.
- 5:44SPEAKER_01: You're taking out, you're not...
- 5:46SPEAKER_01: You're not worried about inflation indexes.
- 5:48SPEAKER_01: You're just looking to private sector sales to private sector domestic purchasers in
- 5:54SPEAKER_01: the United States.
- 5:57SPEAKER_01: In the second quarter, it was up 9.5%.
- 6:00SPEAKER_01: 9.5%.
- 6:06SPEAKER_01: And that's obviously annualized,
- 6:08SPEAKER_01: but that's up from 5% to 6% in all the earlier quarters going way back, right?
- 6:14SPEAKER_01: That's a 4.3% real rise annualized in one quarter.
- 6:20SPEAKER_01: Anyway, extraordinary growth.
- 6:23SPEAKER_01: As you can imagine,
- 6:24SPEAKER_01: a lot of it is upward valuations and intellectual property rights
- 6:28SPEAKER_01: and Data center stuff, IT,
- 6:32SPEAKER_01: you look in the NIPA and you look at the actual rows in which there'd been
- 6:36SPEAKER_01: the big gains and that's kind of where it is.
- 6:40SPEAKER_01: So you pointed that out with the recent PMIs, right?
- 6:46SPEAKER_01: This is a pretty hot economy right now.
- 6:50SPEAKER_01: And it's running on AI hopes.
- 6:55SPEAKER_01: I think you can say.
- 6:57SPEAKER_01: Because it's amazing if you look, everyone talks about, oh my God, all the investment going on.
- 7:02SPEAKER_01: And it is true in AI.
- 7:05SPEAKER_01: But if you look at total net investment as a share of GDP,
- 7:09SPEAKER_01: it's been continuously declining over the last five years.
- 7:13SPEAKER_01: You know what I mean?
- 7:15SPEAKER_01: It's just everything other than AI is shrinking.
- 7:19SPEAKER_01: You see what I mean?
- 7:21SPEAKER_01: But nonetheless...
- 7:23SPEAKER_01: It is the AI investment that's driving the equity markets.
- 7:26SPEAKER_01: Is that not correct?
- 7:28SPEAKER_01: So I don't know.
- 7:32SPEAKER_01: You look at the political consequences of that.
- 7:34SPEAKER_01: We're going to talk about the midterms in just a second.
- 7:38SPEAKER_01: But I think the Republicans could be thankful that GDP,
- 7:43SPEAKER_01: with this long war going on, is keeping the 10% gain in the S&P.
- 7:53SPEAKER_01: I should say not GDP,
- 7:54SPEAKER_01: but I meant the S&P 500, right,
- 7:57SPEAKER_01: is keeping the 10% gain it achieved in April and May over where it was at
- 8:03SPEAKER_01: the beginning of the year.
- 8:05SPEAKER_01: Imagine where the Republicans would be in the midterms if it were down 10% from
- 8:13SPEAKER_01: the beginning of the year.
- 8:14SPEAKER_01: You know what I mean?
- 8:16SPEAKER_01: So not only is it a red-hot economy, but equities are high.
- 8:21SPEAKER_01: They remain high.
- 8:23SPEAKER_01: There were high valuation to begin with.
- 8:25SPEAKER_01: There are higher valuation now.
- 8:27SPEAKER_01: Interest rates are going up.
- 8:29SPEAKER_01: And because the outlook in the rest of the world isn't so great,
- 8:34SPEAKER_01: particularly in Europe,
- 8:35SPEAKER_01: certainly not in China right now, Capital is pouring into US equity markets.
- 8:40SPEAKER_01: We're like an emerging market economy with an investment boom, right?
- 8:45SPEAKER_01: The dollar's up,
- 8:46SPEAKER_01: interest rates are up,
- 8:48SPEAKER_01: equities,
- 8:49SPEAKER_01: although not falling,
- 8:50SPEAKER_01: are not doing nearly as poorly as those other markets you just cited, right?
- 8:59SPEAKER_01: Europe and Asia right now.
- 9:02SPEAKER_01: And so that's kind of where we are.
- 9:03SPEAKER_01: And when you follow equities day in,
- 9:07SPEAKER_01: day out, you notice there are just only two things that matter.
- 9:10SPEAKER_01: I mean, obviously, there are a lot of things that matter, the inequities.
- 9:16SPEAKER_01: But if you want to look at the fundamental question is,
- 9:21SPEAKER_01: are the MAG7 and all the chip stocks up today?
- 9:24SPEAKER_01: Is everything else down or is it slightly reversed?
- 9:28SPEAKER_01: And on most days, It's Mag7 and Chips Up, and they're kind of driving the net gain.
- 9:35SPEAKER_01: They certainly are what drove that 10% gain we saw in April and May, right?
- 9:42SPEAKER_01: And that's kind of where we are,
- 9:44SPEAKER_01: and it's pushing interest rates up because this AI requires a lot of investment,
- 9:51SPEAKER_01: and all those Mag7 are no longer generating cash, right?
- 9:57SPEAKER_01: They're investing it all, and they're now borrowing.
- 10:00SPEAKER_01: So everyone's borrowing to build up that multi-trillion dollar capital stock with
- 10:10SPEAKER_01: which America hopes makes everybody rich, you know what I mean, 10 years from now.
- 10:19SPEAKER_01: What's your thoughts on this?
- 10:21SPEAKER_01: I mean, we've talked about this from time to time.
- 10:23SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it is a strange market that if it doesn't pan out to be true,
- 10:29SPEAKER_00: this could really be trouble if the AI hype goes away.
- 10:35SPEAKER_00: Well, it's holding it up.
- 10:36SPEAKER_01: It's going to be challenging.
- 10:40SPEAKER_01: I think that AI will absolutely transform technology.
- 10:44SPEAKER_01: I think that's without question.
- 10:46SPEAKER_01: It's going to transform our lives.
- 10:48SPEAKER_01: It's going to transform our social environment and our workplaces.
- 10:52SPEAKER_01: The question is, though, about its viability as an investment thesis.
- 10:57SPEAKER_01: The way I look at it, I'll just give you the outline of how I look at it.
- 11:02SPEAKER_01: By most estimates,
- 11:04SPEAKER_01: AI is going to be building out something net of depreciation,
- 11:09SPEAKER_01: capital stock of around $4 trillion by 2030, right?
- 11:14SPEAKER_01: So let's say four years from now.
- 11:18SPEAKER_01: To get a return on that with...
- 11:21SPEAKER_01: Maybe a margin of 35%, 40% pre-tax.
- 11:26SPEAKER_01: That would require about $1.4 trillion in revenue.
- 11:31SPEAKER_01: So you think about that.
- 11:32SPEAKER_01: How much revenue do we now get from private enterprise,
- 11:36SPEAKER_01: consumers, rest of world, governments all around the world?
- 11:41SPEAKER_01: How much do they get in the United States?
- 11:43SPEAKER_01: Maybe that accounts for, I figure, about $180 billion, right?
- 11:46SPEAKER_01: So that's just over 0.5% of GDP.
- 11:50SPEAKER_01: It's going to have to grow to get up to that 1.4 trillion.
- 11:55SPEAKER_01: It's going to have to grow 67% in dollar terms every year for four consecutive years.
- 12:02SPEAKER_01: That's the challenge.
- 12:03SPEAKER_01: And I'm not original in numbers like this,
- 12:06SPEAKER_01: but that means that by the year 2030, it's going to have to be 3.3% of GDP.
- 12:11SPEAKER_01: 2030, 3.3% of GDP.
- 12:11SPEAKER_01: That's equivalent to...
- 12:22SPEAKER_01: Well, it's equivalent to all meals and hospitality as a sector in the United States.
- 12:28SPEAKER_01: Imagine every restaurant, every hotel, every resort.
- 12:33SPEAKER_01: Now, if it goes on one year longer, it's going to have to be 5.5% of GDP.
- 12:38SPEAKER_01: So that's the entire automotive industry, right?