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- 0:00Welcome to the Diva Details. Welcome to the Diva Details.
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- 0:30Well, hello, everybody. This is Diva Mia.
- 0:34I hope you've had a wonderful week. If you would like to be a guest at the Diva
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- 0:44Today we're going to cover healing from divorce.
- 0:46It's important to cover this in detail in a way that helps other people heal.
- 0:51I think that we will start off talking a little bit about the grief process.
- 0:56The grief process is a little tricky. It can be an emotional roller coaster for some people.
- 1:01So when you grieve after a divorce, you're going through grief almost as if
- 1:06it was the death of a spouse.
- 1:07There's a lot of denial at first. The first thing that happens when you go through
- 1:11a divorce is you deny that it's happening to you.
- 1:15You may go to bed at night, you wake up in the morning, and you're like,
- 1:18my gosh, did that actually happen?
- 1:20I think that everybody goes through the stages at their own pace,
- 1:23some people faster than others, but I think all the stages get covered.
- 1:27It may be that you're in denial for a week, two weeks. It may be that you're
- 1:32in denial for months, but the denial stages is challenging.
- 1:35When you go through denial, your reality, it just shifts and you have to recognize
- 1:40that you're no longer a part of that couple.
- 1:42The longer you were married before you got divorced, sometimes the stages affect you more.
- 1:47Some people were married for only a few years and it takes them a long time
- 1:51to recover from the divorce.
- 1:52Just like if it was the death of a spouse, there's a denial stage.
- 1:56The denial stage, it's rough.
- 1:58If you can get support during the denial stage, that's the best time to get
- 2:03it because denial is typically the first stage for everyone.
- 2:06A lot of people will not go and get help. It's the most important thing that
- 2:11you can do. If you weren't the one that decided or maybe you were cheated on,
- 2:15there was some betrayal, etc..
- 2:18This is going to be rough for you to get through and you're going to have to get some help.
- 2:22A lot of people think that they can go at it alone. This is one time in your
- 2:26life that the rug's going to be pulled out from underneath you for a lot of you.
- 2:30Some of you may be excited, some
- 2:31of you may be happy, but there's still a little bit of a denial stage.
- 2:35So this is the best time to go through and get some therapy.
- 2:39Now, we did have a divorce coach on here and the divorce coach is very helpful.
- 2:44She can help you as far as taking you from where you are to where you want to
- 2:48be. There's other coaches for men as well.
- 2:51Divorce coaching is great, but you may also want a therapist because a lot of
- 2:55times we're in marriages that maybe weren't the right relationship for us.
- 2:59We need to analyze why we got there so we don't go there again.
- 3:03Getting a therapist is also very beneficial.
- 3:06Then I've also talked about maybe energy healers because your energy healer
- 3:10can help you just your flow better. It's self-care.
- 3:14It's trying to actually work on your space
- 3:17and make sure you feel good now and that you
- 3:20can self-regulate your nervous system because
- 3:23your nervous system may be a wreck you've got to you've
- 3:26got to be able to talk about your feelings to someone and here's the thing
- 3:29a lot of people say i'm not i'm not going to get a therapist i'll just
- 3:32talk to my friends or my hairdresser or my coach or my personal trainer but
- 3:37the problem is they're not really trained to handle that and they might lead
- 3:41you astray you're gonna have to pay for some therapy and you're gonna have to
- 3:44pay for some coaching especially if you truly want to heal There's a lot of
- 3:48people that don't heal and they don't do the work.
- 3:51And if you don't do the work, you're going to be in the same exact position
- 3:53next year as you are right now. And you don't want that.
- 3:56Some people, they, you know, they just hope it'll go away and time will heal
- 4:00all things, as people say. But I will tell you that time doesn't.
- 4:04Time just delays the pain. I've met people that were divorced for six years,
- 4:08eight years, and they're still stuck in their rut.
- 4:12They are still stuck in the grieving process, never got out,
- 4:15never healed, still blaming their ex. for everything.
- 4:18And they haven't moved past the past. And when you get stuck in your past, you can't heal.
- 4:23You can't move into the future. Part of healing is also taking accountability
- 4:27for your part in the divorce.
- 4:30When you meet a man on a date and you listen to them talk and they say,
- 4:34yes, my ex was terrible. They did this, this, and this.
- 4:36But I was so great. They haven't healed.
- 4:40Men that complain about women nonstop, they haven't healed either.
- 4:44Because men, you have a part in this no matter what. Even if the ex cheated
- 4:48on you, you still had a hand.
- 4:50It may be that you saw signs and you ignore them or, you know, you picked wrong.
- 4:56What made you pick the wrong person to get married to?
- 5:00There's no excuse for cheating in any relationship ever. If a person does that,
- 5:04that says more about their character and their ethics and values than anything.
- 5:08What I'm saying is that in order for you to heal, you have to let it go.
- 5:13You have to move on and you have to love yourself enough to forgive yourself,
- 5:17not just the other person.
- 5:19Forgiving the other person is important, but you've got to forgive yourself
- 5:22in order to move on. That's a process.
- 5:24I think that's the hardest part is forgiving yourself for choosing wrong,
- 5:28for selecting the wrong person.
- 5:30Etc. It takes work.
- 5:32Anger is the next stage. Now, some people stay angry for a really long time.
- 5:39I think I went right over this stage. I didn't have a lot of anger. I was a little angry.
- 5:44I was a little bitter, but it was very early on. I went through denial in like
- 5:48a week or two, and then I went through anger.
- 5:49And by the time I was actually divorced within a 60-day timeframe, my anger was gone.
- 5:54My anger left, went through denial and anger and even bargaining a little bit in 60 days.
- 6:00So in 60 days, I did anger, denial and bargaining.
- 6:04My friend even took me to a rage room and I didn't have any anger.
- 6:07Anger can last for some people for a very long time and others.
- 6:10I'm not an angry person. It went through very fast for me, but some people,
- 6:14they hold on to that anger and rage. It may go dark for them for a while.
- 6:18The quicker you can let that go, the faster. I think I only,
- 6:21I think I was only angry for a couple of weeks. I let it go.
- 6:23But then the bargaining counts.
- 6:25The bargaining stage is where you're wondering to yourself, could I have done
- 6:31something different to make them stay?
- 6:33Could I have done something different to be a better husband or a better wife?
- 6:37And you bargain with yourself. But my bargaining was just thinking about,
- 6:41was there anything I could have done differently to change the situation?
- 6:44You bargain with yourself and you try to overanalyze and predict if there was
- 6:49something. This stage can last. Thank you.
- 6:51It doesn't last for everybody. Some people just move right through it,
- 6:54but it can also last and you can self-evaluate for a very long time.
- 6:58But I think that's actually a healthy thing.
- 7:00I think that, you know, evaluating, okay, could I have done anything better?
- 7:05It also brings up things of the past of, wow, I put up with a lot of stuff I shouldn't have.
- 7:10But that's a real self-realization stage when you're going through this.
- 7:14And people go through a depression stage a lot of times.
- 7:17And the depression stage is where you just kind of go numb.
- 7:21And I don't know if everybody goes into depression. I think going numb is actually
- 7:24an okay thing if you really self-reflect.
- 7:27But the depression is where you just don't want to do a lot.
- 7:30You lose yourself. Now, some people get lost for years upon years upon years
- 7:33during the depression stage. They don't want to get out of bed.
- 7:36They don't want to function.
- 7:37They don't want to date anyone. They don't want to get out there and live.
- 7:40Depression stage is a real thing. Some people, their depression stage is delayed.
- 7:45The reason it's delayed is because what happens with a lot of people is when
- 7:50they get out of a divorce,
- 7:52they throw themselves into work or they throw themselves into serving other
- 7:57people or they throw themselves into hobbies or working out or whatever.
- 8:02And they do this in order to avoid the pain. Now, I'm not saying you shouldn't work out.
- 8:07I definitely, I love working out. But you shouldn't do it to an extreme that
- 8:10you're avoiding the internal work.
- 8:13You shouldn't be going and volunteering all your time because you're avoiding looking within.
- 8:18And a lot of people do this. They avoid looking within and it delays the healing.
- 8:24When that happens, after you get to a point where you take a pause and you actually
- 8:30look within because it always comes, you might go into severe depression.
- 8:34I recommend you go through the depression or the numbing stage as quickly as
- 8:39possible because the longer you're in it, some people get into severe depression.
- 8:44But if you can just go numb and look inside, figure out what you want to do,
- 8:49who you want to be, and how you can heal and let the feelings out during the
- 8:53depression stages, let them all out, release them. You'll go through it much quicker.
- 8:57But remember, if you see somebody that came out of a divorce and they're at
- 9:00the gym like six hours a day, or all they do is volunteer their time,
- 9:04or they act so happy, but they're, you know, it's kind of odd.
- 9:07They're probably being an avoidant of looking inward and going through the depression
- 9:12stage because everybody doesn't. But the faster you get to it early on,
- 9:16I think the less painful it is, too.
- 9:18Because if you wait a year or two and you distract yourself,
- 9:21it's almost like the pain gets bigger.
- 9:24I think anytime you distract yourself from feeling the feelings you need to
- 9:27be, they can just it becomes like a cancer or swells up inside you.
- 9:31So get rid of that depression stage as soon as possible. And then once you're
- 9:35through the depression stage, you actually get to move on to acceptance.
- 9:39Acceptance is wonderful. Acceptance is a stage where you get to realize it's over.
- 9:46This is also the stage where you typically forgive the other person.
- 9:50It is the best part of the healing, but you also need to forgive yourself.
- 9:56I think for me, I forgave my spouse and his mistress a long time ago.
- 10:01I didn't forget, but I forgave and I let it go.
- 10:04However, I think for me, forgiving myself for, I think of myself as a smart
- 10:10person, not seeing signs earlier and things like that, and not leaving a relationship
- 10:14before it got to this point, and putting up with things I shouldn't have put up with.
- 10:19Those are things that took me a while to forgive and myself.
- 10:23I think once I got to the point where I actually forgave myself.
- 10:27That's where the real growth came. I was stuck. I was accepting.
- 10:30I was kind of actually happy the divorce was over. But at the same time,
- 10:35I had difficulty forgiving myself.
- 10:36I think I'm tougher on myself than I should be sometimes.
- 10:40And, you know, sometimes it's good for business to be tough on yourself,
- 10:42but it's not so good when you're trying to forgive yourself.
- 10:45So just remember to forgive yourself because forgiveness is extremely important.
- 10:51When we go through a divorce that we have to realize this is grieving.
- 10:56It is just like healing from a death. So the same steps happen if you lose a spouse.
- 11:01The difference is the person still exists. which makes recovery sometimes take longer.
- 11:06Because if you're in an area where you see the person often,
- 11:10maybe you're in a small town and you see them over and over again,
- 11:13that will complicate your recovery.
- 11:15If you have kids, it can slow down your recovery.
- 11:19Because if you're seeing the person every other week and they cheated on you,
- 11:22it's almost like reopening a wound every time you see them.
- 11:26Or if you see them and they're picking up your kids with the person that they
- 11:30cheated with, oh my gosh, I can't even imagine.
- 11:32That would be like taking a knife in your back and twisting it.
- 11:35That is a rough thing to go through.
- 11:37So you definitely need to get help with this. You definitely need to get some
- 11:41type of therapist or divorce recovery coach or something.
- 11:45You really need to work on it. You need to find the right one.
- 11:48You need to find someone that's open, that's empathetic, that handles a lot
- 11:52of people that go through divorce.
- 11:53You're just going to have to realize you were in a bad relationship.
- 11:56It didn't work out the way you expected it to.
- 11:59But hopefully you can learn some lessons from it and grow and grow from it.
- 12:04I mean, life is about lessons and life is about learning.
- 12:07But you got to go through it to grow through it, as I say. I think that healing
- 12:11from divorce is sometimes very complicated, even more so than healing from a
- 12:16death. So you just have to understand that newly divorced people is a new world.
- 12:21If you're trying to throw yourself out there into dating in order to get over
- 12:25the last person, that's just going to open you up to pain.
- 12:29I remember when I was going through the divorce and I got divorced,
- 12:33it was like I did it so quickly that I took a breath at the end.
- 12:36And the first thing I wanted to do was distract myself.
- 12:39I wanted to go out there and date a lot and do some things on those dates.
- 12:44Mentally, I couldn't do it because it's just not my personality,
- 12:46but I was hurting and I thought it would make me feel better.
- 12:50Then I got terrified because I was like, I can't sleep with another man because
- 12:54I'm afraid I was going to cry.
- 12:56So I had to go through that. I was like, I was so traumatized that I was like,
- 13:00how am I going to be with somebody else after being with one person for 28 years?
- 13:03It's a very big adjustment for people to make. So realize throwing yourself
- 13:08out there into another relationship and sleeping with someone else just to get
- 13:12over your divorce is not really a good way to go. You got to look inward.
- 13:15Don't distract yourself with people, with hobbies, with charity,
- 13:21with work, with anything, because the distraction will just make the pain worse.
- 13:26I really think you need the coach. Coaching is wonderful.
- 13:29The therapy will help you make sure you don't repeat the same mistakes in the
- 13:33future and by analyzing your past. but the coach will make sure you get over
- 13:37what you're going through right now, as well as the energy healer.
- 13:40The energy healer just smooths out your vibration, if you will.
- 13:44You can manifest emotionally and physically. So if you don't heal these wounds,
- 13:48you can get a health issue. You can get an autoimmune.
- 13:50You can get cancer. These wounds, they stick around.
- 13:54If you're not going through and getting help, you may have a problem.
- 13:57It can create a physical problem, not just a mental health problem,
- 14:01and not just an emotional problem.
- 14:03Something like 60% of the divorces happen due to infidelity,
- 14:07although most people say that it's probably even higher than that.
- 14:11Because typically when somebody starts detaching from a spouse,
- 14:14they've already attached to someone else.
- 14:16They were flirting with somebody at first, or they were talking to them in ways they shouldn't have.
- 14:22When they start doing that, the natural progression of your mind is to start
- 14:25detaching from the person that you're with.
- 14:27When that starts to occur, you may be emotionally cheating before you're actually
- 14:31physically cheating. The emotional cheating helps you detach from your current spouse or partner.
- 14:36When that happens, it's going to change and shift what's going on.
- 14:41And if you're the one that got cheated on, it actually causes trauma.
- 14:44The trauma is an experience that when people go through it, some say it's worse
- 14:48than death. Some people say it's like a million razor blades on your body.
- 14:52Every little part hurts and you don't know how to handle it.
- 14:55You don't know how to recover from it. Again, why therapy is so important,
- 14:59because it has this huge neurological impact.
- 15:03People compare it to grief of a widowhood, but it's worse because the person
- 15:07that you trusted violated all your trust.
- 15:10The person that vowed to love you forever violated all that trust.
- 15:14So there's a lot of shame that goes along with it.
- 15:17Not just the person that cheated, but the person that gets cheated on. They're embarrassed.
- 15:23They can't believe that someone else cheated on. They look inside.
- 15:27Was I not good enough in bed? Was I not nice enough? Was I not this?
- 15:31And honestly, it wasn't you. because the people that cheat, they tend to have
- 15:35a propensity for cheating, for lying, for stealing.
- 15:38They tend to have an ethical, a gray area when it comes to ethics,
- 15:43morals, and values. So it's not you.
- 15:45They're not, if they cheated on you, they're probably gonna cheat on the person
- 15:48they left you for. So they're just cheaters.
- 15:51That's just who they are. But we, as the ones that get cheated on,
- 15:54and since I got cheated, I can say the same, we do carry a little bit of shame
- 15:58at first because we're embarrassed.
- 16:00We can't believe they did what they did. And then what tends to happen is the
- 16:05person that cheated on you makes up all kinds of stories about you and just
- 16:08to make himself or herself look better.
- 16:11So then you have rage and you get angry and it makes you so mad because the
- 16:16person that cheated on you just makes up stories and lies about you.
- 16:19Well, here you go. If they were willing to cheat on you, what makes you think
- 16:24they're not willing to lie about you?
- 16:26It's just who they are. So realize cheaters are also liars and they go around
- 16:31and they tend to tell stories to whomever will listen.
- 16:33The people that will listen to a person that cheated and a person that lies.
- 16:39Then they're probably not the type of people I want to be hanging out with anyway,
- 16:42because they're gullible.
- 16:43If they don't know me for my character, then they just don't really know me.
- 16:46I obviously wasn't close enough to them, so I just let those people go too.
- 16:49So don't take it too deeply or don't be too concerned with the people that the
- 16:54cheater lies to about you Because if they don't know who you are,
- 16:58that's okay If they want to listen to a cheater and a liar, that's okay, too Just let them go.
- 17:03Let them be don't worry about it You got more things to worry about you got
- 17:07to take care of you right now You got to take care of your health You got to
- 17:10have just three or four people around you that support you That's all you need
- 17:13and that support system will be helpful even though you're still going to go get therapy,
- 17:18but you need that support system to get through.
- 17:20So don't worry about the shame. I don't care what other people think.
- 17:24Don't worry about what other people say because if they're lying about you,
- 17:28they just are liars. It's okay.
- 17:29You know who you are. You know your value.
- 17:33You know your worth. You know you're a good person.
- 17:35So let it go. After that, so after you get through the shame and the rage,
- 17:40the trust issue is a big one.
- 17:42You're going to not trust people for a while.
- 17:45You're probably only going to want to have two or three people that you really trust around you.
- 17:49Now, make sure these people are really empathetic people, but empathy has its
- 17:53limits because if all you do is cry and talk about your divorce forever to them,
- 17:58they're going to feel like they're your therapist.
- 18:00So work that out with your therapist and have them there as a backup when you
- 18:04need them for a little bit of support.
- 18:06But the trust issue is huge. You're looking at people and you're like,
- 18:10how do I know this person's not going to violate my trust as well.
- 18:13Now, if you start dating too soon, I think the distrust will reel its head a
- 18:17lot earlier because for me, when I was dating, I didn't trust anyone.
- 18:20I probably should have waited until at least six months after my divorce,
- 18:24maybe a year, but I went out probably three months and did a couple of dates
- 18:27and I didn't trust anyone.
- 18:28So by the time I read six to nine months, actually about nine months after my
- 18:32divorce, I went out with an ex that I had dated previously.
- 18:36You know, it was healing in some ways because it allowed me to open myself,
- 18:41to someone I had been with before and trust them.
- 18:44That was nice because I think I was missing a huge part in my soul of being able to trust people.
- 18:52Heck, even being able to trust myself. I mean, he was a gracious man and understood
- 18:57what I was going through and he was just so sweet.
- 18:59So being able to trust is baby steps.
- 19:02It takes you a while to get back into it. Now I feel like I could trust a person
- 19:05again because not everyone is your ex.
- 19:08And there's some really, really solid, good people out there.
- 19:11But it's baby steps, especially if you've been married more than once,
- 19:14because some people are married two, three, four times. They might have been
- 19:17cheated on in every marriage.
- 19:19That you need to work on your therapist to why you're picking the same type
- 19:22of people that are willing to cheat.
- 19:24Because honestly, we do have accountability in that part, right?
- 19:28Because we pick the ones that maybe aren't the most honest and ethical.
- 19:32Then you also may have some body image issues. If you've been married for a
- 19:35long time, you're like, oh crap, I need to nip and tuck here.
- 19:38I need to lose some weight or I need to take an extra 30 pounds off.
- 19:41You need to work on your health and physical because what happens is when you
- 19:45go out there and if you're dating and you're wanting to be intimate with somebody,
- 19:48you're not going to want to be intimate until you get your body image issues fixed.
- 19:53So realize that's part of the aftermath of the divorce. You got to work through that.
- 19:58Once you get that worked out, then you can actually heal as well.
- 20:02The emotional healing is so very important, especially if there was infidelity.
- 20:07Because I think as women, we're like, was I just not cute enough?
- 20:10Was I just not fun enough? Was I just not sweet enough? And we beat ourselves up so much.
- 20:15And the reality is you got to let it go. Because you know what? You were enough.
- 20:19You were enough. And you put up with probably more than you should have.
- 20:23Because a lot of times the people that cheat were also verbally abusive before
- 20:26they actually cheated, because they were probably already emotionally checked out.
- 20:30So when they emotionally check out, they turn into verbally abusive partners.
- 20:35To see if they can push you away because they're already cheating.
- 20:38So when people are verbally abusive like that, then we get defensive and we're
- 20:41like questioning our sanity.
- 20:43And then we realized later on, we realized they were cheating.
- 20:46It wasn't you. It wasn't you physically.
- 20:49It wasn't your personality. It just was because that's who they are.
- 20:53They felt like they needed something or someone else to give them supply or power or whatever it is.
- 21:00And here's the thing, ladies, These men that cheat, they don't typically cheat
- 21:03with somebody better looking.
- 21:05Sometimes they do, but usually they cheat with somebody not so good looking,
- 21:08someone that they can lord over, be king over.
- 21:11If men need that feeling of superiority and they're just not getting it at home
- 21:17because at home, you're trying to run a tight ship and take care of the kids
- 21:20and everything else, sometimes they go out because of that. They need to lord
- 21:23or feel like they're king.
- 21:24They tend to get someone less intelligent or less good looking.
- 21:27That's just, it makes them feel superior.
- 21:29Let them go. If that's what they need, let them go. Let them go.
- 21:33The next thing is, you know, you got to realize that there's going to be huge
- 21:36ripple effect, especially if there's an infidelity.
- 21:38There's going to be a ripple effect in the family. There's going to be a ripple
- 21:41effect in the children. I mean, the children.
- 21:43I mean, when people cheat and it gets out, it can devastate children.
- 21:48It always gets out. I mean, look at the Coldplay concert.
- 21:52I mean, that went worldwide in a night. We talk about the spouse that just got
- 21:56slapped in the face with, hey, your husband's cheating on you and it's the world news.
- 22:00But what about the children who now have to go to school and get teased about
- 22:06their father or their mother cheating?
- 22:09That really affects their self-esteem. They're going to have abandonment issues,
- 22:14even if the other partner's around, because basically when a partner cheats,
- 22:19they're not just cheating on the spouse, they're cheating on the kids too.
- 22:22And I know this may, it may cut, but it's true because they're taking time away
- 22:29from their children to go have an affair with.
- 22:33With someone else. So instead of spending their time with their children,
- 22:37they go have an affair and skip out on the kids. I know my ex did.
- 22:42The kids were around. He hadn't seen the kids for a while, and he took off to
- 22:46have an affair and then said it was work, but he left so he could go sleep around.
- 22:51He hadn't seen me for a while either because he was already checked out.
- 22:54He's taking time away from his children to be with someone else,
- 22:57and it will affect their self-esteem. So just realize that you may need to get
- 23:02your children into therapy or listen to them extra.
- 23:06Now, I will say, don't baby them too much. And I was a little guilty of this
- 23:09in the beginning is I really dove in to give them extra support.
- 23:13And I even let my youngest sleep in my bed for a really long time just to help
- 23:17them get over his abandonment issues.
- 23:19But in the long run, they need to learn how to self-regulate too.
- 23:23Part of life is learning how to self-regulate your nervous system.
- 23:25Because if you don't, when you become an adult, let's say you're spoiled your
- 23:29whole life or everybody does everything for you.
- 23:31By the time you become an adult, you can't handle the real world because the
- 23:35real world's a little tough.
- 23:36You're going to have stuff come at you that you weren't expecting.
- 23:39If you can't self-regulate your nervous system, you're not going to know how to behave.
- 23:43And that's how mental disorders start. You may snap.
- 23:46So or you need a safe space like they they keep telling these college kids you
- 23:50need a safe space. No, there's no safe spaces in the real world.
- 23:54OK, this is just life. So learn to self-regulate and adjust and become more
- 23:59adaptive and resilient when things happen. That's part of life.
- 24:03I will tell you, going through a divorce, and I know I'm smiling,
- 24:08but going through a divorce will make you very adaptive. It will make you very
- 24:12resilient, stronger than you've ever been.
- 24:14It's an amazing journey. It's a tough journey. But when you come out the other
- 24:18side and you rediscover who you are and remember, and I'm going to say remember
- 24:24your self-worth, because you've always had self-worth.
- 24:27You remember your self-worth. You remember who you are as a person.
- 24:31You're going to feel blessed that you came through it on the other side and
- 24:36you get back to who you are.
- 24:38It's going to be an amazing journey that you should be grateful for.
- 24:41I know it might be tough if you're at the beginning, but believe me and trust
- 24:44me that when you're on the other side of that mountain that you're going to
- 24:48have to cross, which is your divorce and going through the healing journey,
- 24:52when you get to the other side, it's going to be a beautiful paradise.
- 24:55Because it is a wonderful thing to grow through a divorce.
- 24:59It is a wonderful thing to come out the other side. So if I can give you any
- 25:03hope, if you're going through it.
- 25:05I hope that is it because you will be happier.
- 25:09You will feel like you can take on the world and you will get back to who you
- 25:14were as a person and feel your worth again and know your value.
- 25:19That's an amazing thing.
- 25:20Here's the other thing is healing does not equal moving on.
- 25:26A lot of people are going to tell you, you just need to go find a man if you're a woman.
- 25:31And if you're a man, they'll say, you just need to go find a woman.
- 25:33The problem is, if you're not healed and you move on to another person,
- 25:39you're going to marry or date the exact same person you're married to because that's your habit.
- 25:44And that's the type of people you like. You tend to attract the same women or
- 25:48the same men over and over again.
- 25:51And if you do that, you're going to have the same outcome.
- 25:54It's called doing the exact same thing and expecting a different result.
- 25:57So you have to rebuild your self-trust and peace first.
- 26:01And you have to give yourself that time. The issue is that once you get to the
- 26:05point where you have your self-trust and your peace, you may not want another person ever.
- 26:10And that's okay. I'm here to tell you, you can be pretty darn happy all by yourself.
- 26:16Now, don't get me wrong. I do like the comfort of a man once in a while.
- 26:20I do like the safety that some men provide.
- 26:24However, sometimes you feel much happier just alone in your own peace, in your own setting.
- 26:30So you find your peace. You find yourself you find your happiness and your joy
- 26:36and when you get to that place Then you decide what you want.
- 26:39You don't have to go for another man ever or right away You could take a couple
- 26:44years and I don't care what age you are.
- 26:46I don't care if you're in your 40s 50s 60s There's always going to be men out
- 26:49there So you don't need to rush.
- 26:51There's no there's no fear of missing out on this one There's no fomo Because
- 26:55there's always going to be people we've got billions of people out there.
- 26:59So just remember that once you forgive them.
- 27:02And once you can finally forgive yourself, you're going to have personal freedom
- 27:06like you've never had. You're going to feel free.
- 27:09You're going to be able to feel like you're going to take on the world.
- 27:12And it's an empowering feeling.
- 27:14So remember, forgiveness, it usually takes a while at least to forgive yourself and forgive them.
- 27:20But once you get there, you have so much freedom and you feel so good.
- 27:23But don't skip the steps.
- 27:26Everybody touches on it, even if it's for a little bit. But you jumping into
- 27:30a new relationship because you're numb and depressed is not the way to go.
- 27:35You jumping into a new relationship because you're angry and you just want to
- 27:39piss off your ex-partner is not the way to go. because you're not healed and
- 27:44you're just causing more internal damage emotionally to yourself.
- 27:49So do the work. Do the emotional work. Do the spiritual work.
- 27:52And then realize that once you get through all this emotional work and the spiritual
- 27:57work, you're going to come out the other side and thrive.
- 28:01Now, I do want to talk a little bit about taking accountability.
- 28:04So when you're going through healing, you're
- 28:06going to take a little bit of accountability for things that happen.
- 28:10Now, I don't want you to blame yourself for them cheating. That's on them. But there were signs.
- 28:14Most people that get cheated on, in fact, I'd say 95% of people or more that
- 28:18get cheated on, there were signs that somebody wasn't happy in the relationship.
- 28:22You weren't, they weren't.
- 28:24And there was strife. A lot of times when people are getting ready to cheat,
- 28:27they create more strife because they're emotionally cheating already with the person.
- 28:32And so they start fights just for the heck of starting fights.
- 28:36So they can say, see, that person's not so nice to me. So they'll create strife
- 28:40in the marriage in order to make it worse. Or maybe it's just guilt.
- 28:44Sometimes I think people feel guilty about cheating, so they create more problems
- 28:49or they yell more often, etc.
- 28:51So realize that it's not you, but there is accountability because sometimes
- 28:57we allow people to treat us badly and you got to own that.
- 29:01You need to learn boundaries that does not allow people to treat you in a way
- 29:06that's not serving. That's not respectful.
- 29:10You should never be yelled at by your spouse. I mean, you can raise your voice
- 29:14here and there and get energized.
- 29:16But if a person's yelling at you on a daily basis, that's emotional abuse.
- 29:20You need to have boundaries.
- 29:21So people shouldn't be raising and screaming at their partner.
- 29:25That's supposed to be the person you love.
- 29:26That's supposed to be the person you want to spend a life together. You
- 29:29should treat them better than the people you see on the street or your
- 29:32your work partners because we're supposed
- 29:35to be the ones you love the ones you care about that should have
- 29:38been a boundary for me i should have been saying no i'm not going to allow it
- 29:43it's like it was like the red line that kept getting crossed oh you know over
- 29:46and over again drew a red line and they kept walking over it if you draw a red
- 29:50line and the person that you're with keeps walking over it you need to make
- 29:54a decision are you going to stay or you,
- 29:57are you going to work on it? Something has to change because you can't continue to allow that.
- 30:01Because if you do, then when you get divorced, you need to take accountability
- 30:05for not doing something about it. That's the truth.
- 30:08But you've also got to break the cycle of being a victim.
- 30:11You got to break the cycle of self-blame, but you also have to break the cycle of being a victim.
- 30:15Now, I was never a victim, but I do do a lot of self-blame. I blame myself when I shouldn't be.
- 30:20It tends to be one or two ways. Some people come out of this,
- 30:23oh, poor me, poor me, poor me.
- 30:24I get cheated on my life is over but
- 30:27and they get stuck in that or they go into the cycle of
- 30:30self blame so much that they don't forgive themselves
- 30:33so you need to get over both of those cycles
- 30:36whichever side of the coin you are whether you're a self-blamer or a victim
- 30:40both of those cycles are bad because they don't help you fully heal so get out
- 30:45of the victimhood and take accountability but don't overtake accountability
- 30:49for things that aren't yours to own and then once you take accountability.
- 30:54Realize those were just signs that you need to have new boundaries and you will
- 30:57never let it happen again.
- 30:59Once you let go of the past, you get to design the life you want.
- 31:03You get to design your future.
- 31:05You get to live the way you want. Think about how amazing that is for you.
- 31:10You get to live and grow in a way that you never, ever expected.
- 31:14You get to become the person that you want to be.
- 31:17You get to rebuild your life with confidence and hope
- 31:20and treasure every moment with you and your children if
- 31:23you still have children at home and your family and your pets and
- 31:27create a new family and a new identity a new
- 31:29independence and it may be that your family is
- 31:33without a partner for a long time it may be that a
- 31:35year from now you find a perfect person who knows but you don't need someone
- 31:40else to validate you you need to have your own confidence your own joy your
- 31:45own self-worth your own vibrations and knowledge that you're amazed every one
- 31:50of us was given so many gifts on this planet, and we don't use them enough.
- 31:54But when you really go inside, and you
- 31:56go through a stage of numbness and self-reflection, you get to see those
- 32:01gifts again, and they come out. You get to rebuild you with confidence and identity and independence.
- 32:08And the healing that happens will make you more powerful and stronger than you've ever been.
- 32:13It'll make you stronger than you were before you even got married.
- 32:16Because when you got married, you had some weaknesses because you chose someone
- 32:20that you may have thought in the back of your head, like I did, wasn't the right one.
- 32:25And it may not have been right in the forefront when to happen,
- 32:28but maybe somewhere your gut instinct said, maybe I should wait or maybe this
- 32:31isn't the right thing to do.
- 32:33And now you'll never let that happen again, because when your intuition tells
- 32:37you it's wrong, you're going to listen this time.
- 32:39So when you survive divorce, when you survive infidelity and the grief that
- 32:44goes with it, you're going to be stronger.
- 32:46You're going to be wiser. You're going to be more self-loving than you've ever
- 32:50been. That is an amazing place to be. you're going to be happier.
- 32:55Don't be afraid to ask for help and let people in.
- 32:58Sharing your grief is an amazing thing to do and people are willing to help.
- 33:01Listen to some of these podcasts about people going through divorce.
- 33:04I have a few of them and that will help.
- 33:07And I say when obstacles arise, take them on as quickly as possible.
- 33:11Move through it as fast as possible because if you sit there and you let fear
- 33:15control you, it's going to take you longer to heal.
- 33:18Don't let fear own you. You own yourself.
- 33:21Have trust in yourself and faith that things will work out.
- 33:25Don't let the fear in. And you got to be willing to make mistakes,
- 33:28okay? When you just go for things, you're going to stumble.
- 33:31You're going to trip because it's like you're going to a goal and you're running
- 33:35and every once in a while the sidewalk pops up and you fall on your face. But.
- 33:39It's okay because you're moving in the right direction.
- 33:42If you stand there and say, oh, that goal is really far away.
- 33:46I don't know if I can make it.
- 33:47You're going to run around in circles or just stand there and do nothing.
- 33:50You're never going to get anywhere.
- 33:52And then two years from now, three years from now, four years from now,
- 33:55you're going to be one of those people I run into that's still in the same part
- 33:57of their grief because they let fear control them.
- 34:00Don't do that. Don't be that person. Now, once you've gone through grief,
- 34:04there is a different journey that a lot of people go through that is like a
- 34:08circular revisiting of the grief.
- 34:11You may go through another numb stage.
- 34:13And in fact, some of the grieving stages cycle back, but there's another numb
- 34:17stage. And the numb stage that, this is kind of a pleasant numb stage, if you will.
- 34:20This is where you've gone through all the stages of grief.
- 34:23You've gone through forgiveness, but now you're questioning your identity, okay?
- 34:28And a lot of, they don't talk about after you've healed, what's next.
- 34:33A lot of people that say, let's get you healed. And then, well,
- 34:36what's next? And I say the numb stage.
- 34:39And it's a stage where a lot of people go through it and they're questioning
- 34:43their life's purpose and they're questioning their identity and they don't know
- 34:47what path to go forward in.
- 34:49And this numb stage for me lasted about three or four weeks.
- 34:51So that was a long time for me. Now, some people could last for six months or a year.
- 34:55And the numb stage, it's after the shock of the divorce, after you've gone through
- 34:58some of the healing, this numbness can last for a little bit.
- 35:02And I actually enjoy the numb stage because it's a stage where I gave the space
- 35:06and the time to look inward and say, what do I want to do next?
- 35:10Who do I want to be? What goals do I want to set?
- 35:14And it wasn't a stage where I was doing a lot. It was a stage where I took time
- 35:18to myself and analyzed who I want to be.
- 35:21Came up with a new life purpose. Because when you go through divorce,
- 35:25part of your purpose gets destroyed because it was your marriage was part of your purpose.
- 35:29So come up with a new purpose and figure out a path forward.
- 35:32And it needs to be a big one.
- 35:34I don't want you to play small. I want you to find a big path.
- 35:38A big goal, something you really want to do that's for you and for your new family.
- 35:43Now, your new family could just be you and your cat, or it could be just you
- 35:46and your dog or you and your kids.
- 35:48But your new purpose needs to encompass all of that.
- 35:52It needs to be there for you, something that you can grow and something that
- 35:55you can maybe bring your children in to help you on.
- 35:58But that purpose should be so big that it's inspiring, that it lights a fire
- 36:03under you, that when you think about it, you light up.
- 36:07You can tell people about what you're doing, maybe writing a book,
- 36:10maybe you're taking on a new hobby.
- 36:12You want to be the pickle ball champion of whatever town you're in.
- 36:16Whatever it is, something that lights you up, something that inspires you,
- 36:20that gives you the reason to wake up in the morning.
- 36:23And this numb stage that I'm talking about, it's not a depression stage.
- 36:26Now, they do say if you stay in any numb stage for too long,
- 36:29you could get depressed. But I never got depressed in a numb stage because I
- 36:32look inward and you really need to look inside and say, I am worthy.
- 36:37And your self-worth should really shine here. But the numb stage does give you
- 36:41the time and the space to think.
- 36:43And it's just some people do their thinking when they meditate and I'm not a big meditator.
- 36:48So the numb stage for me is a nice clarity stage. You may also mourn a little
- 36:52bit more after you've gone through your greeting stage.
- 36:56But if you have a good purpose, that stage is not going to last.
- 37:01So when you come out of your numb stage, you're going to have a strong purpose. Okay.
- 37:06You're going to have an idea of what you want to do, but you're going to have no idea how to do it.
- 37:10It's a disorganization or a realignment stage. It's a stage where you've gone
- 37:15through the worst, you've healed, but now you've got a new purpose and you have
- 37:19no idea how to get there. This stage is kind of disorganized.
- 37:23Your head may spin. You're like, what do I do? So what you do in this stage
- 37:27is you make a lot of lists and you're going to list out what you want to do.
- 37:32And under each heading of what you want to do, you're going to make a list of
- 37:35everything you need to do to get it. So if you want to lose 50 pounds as part
- 37:39of your purpose, you're going to make a list of the things you're going to do to execute that.
- 37:43If you want to start any business, write down the 100 things that you're going to have to do to do it.
- 37:48And every single day, you have to get one of those things done off the list.
- 37:53Now, it may be that you make the list.
- 37:56I need to set up a corporation. I need to make $50,000.
- 37:59No, those are too big of things. You need to break down into minute details,
- 38:03everything that you want to get done. This is going to help with you realigning
- 38:06your thought process. It's going to help with you with your decision making.
- 38:10It's going to help you figure out how to do things in a more clear path forward.
- 38:15This is a very important part of the process because you've got this big purpose.
- 38:20You've got this big why now. You've got this big goal, who you are. You're empowered.
- 38:25Now let's line up how you're going to get there. So a lot of goal setting,
- 38:29a lot of detail on what you need to do to get there.
- 38:32And with all the AI out there, you can also reach out to AI and say,
- 38:35what steps do I need to do to start a business in textiles or t-shirt design
- 38:41or write a book? How do I write a book? What steps do I need to take?
- 38:45Grab those steps. Just start building your list.
- 38:47And every day, move towards that. Every day.
- 38:51In fact, I like to do it at night. I write down six things, my six most important
- 38:54things I have to do the next day.
- 38:56I make sure those are next to my bed. So as soon as I wake up in the morning,
- 38:59I'm not jumping on my phone, which I used to do when I was going through the divorce a lot.
- 39:03I'm not jumping on my phone when I wake up because I usually wake up four o'clock
- 39:07is my preferred time because then I get a nice workout in before the kids get up.
- 39:10But when I wake up, I get started on my list right away.
- 39:13So by six o'clock when the kids wake up, I already have half my list done.
- 39:17Sometimes I get the whole list done in the first two hours.
- 39:20Depends on how the list is shaping up, whether I can do it when I'm walking
- 39:24on the treadmill or if I have to do other things.
- 39:27So remember get your six most important things leave
- 39:30them next to your bed and you're going to see your life change in the right
- 39:34direction again where you're over the mountain but now you're shooting for that
- 39:37goal okay then after you get organized and you start doing your steps your action
- 39:42items you're going to go through a growth stage it is amazing to go through
- 39:47the growth stage the growth stage is great because you're.
- 39:50Realigning with who you are, realigning with your life's purpose and finding
- 39:54that you can do everything on your own. It's fine to have a partner.
- 39:57Great. But isn't it great that you know you can do everything on your own?
- 40:02Isn't it a great feeling that you know you can support yourself financially,
- 40:06physically, emotionally, mentally, sexually?
- 40:09You can support yourself. There are ways.
- 40:12So your path forward is a great thing to get to when you get to the growth stage,
- 40:17because every day you're going to wake up and you're going to thrive.
- 40:20That's a great place to be. Nothing will stop you.
- 40:23Your health, your wealth, your mental health, your finances,
- 40:26you got this. You got this girl, as they say. You can do anything.
- 40:30Remember that thriving stage comes right after the growth stage,
- 40:34after you're done growing and you now got your habits in place because you're
- 40:38doing this every day. So it's habitual.
- 40:40It may take a while. Depends on what business you're in. Depends on what your goals are.
- 40:44I mean, if you have 50 pounds to lose, it might take you six months.
- 40:46If you want to compete in a competition or do a marathon or triathlon,
- 40:51those things may take some time, but you got to get the consistency down in
- 40:54the growth stage. And what happens is you start thriving.
- 40:56You see, after 60 to 90 days of doing the daily work every single day,
- 41:00you start to thrive and the path gets clearer. This is about accepting your new reality.
- 41:06This is you. You get to grow in such a great way that your new reality is rock star.
- 41:12Integration, thriving, this is a great stage. And the next stage is success.
- 41:16Success is a wonderful place to be because you've done it. You got there.
- 41:20You did things you didn't think were possible.
- 41:23Now don't stop. A lot of people, they get into success and they stop there.
- 41:28They think, oh, I made it. So I'm making, I don't know, whatever it is,
- 41:33$50,000 a month, or I'm doing whatever it is, whatever your,
- 41:37I lost 50 pounds and now I look great.
- 41:40But, and then they stop and then they gain their weight back or they stop working
- 41:43and then they stop making money.
- 41:45Once you get to success, that's not the destination.
- 41:48I think people need to move forward to the next step, which is significance.
- 41:52And significance is where you're doing things that you didn't even think possible.
- 41:57So maybe you lose 50 pounds and now you're going to compete in a bodybuilding competition.
- 42:01That's a significant step. And then after you get to that body competition,
- 42:05maybe you're going to teach other people how to be bodybuilders.
- 42:08Now you're doing significance. You're assisting and you're helping the world be a better place.
- 42:12Or maybe you started a company and it made so much money that you can now,
- 42:17I don't know, give money to homeless people or set up a foundation.
- 42:21That's significance. And from significance, you grow into a person that you
- 42:25don't even recognize. It's amazing. It's a beautiful thing.
- 42:28This is my hope for you. Think about where you came from. Think about all you've done.
- 42:33Think about where you can go. Then after you get into significance,
- 42:35there's another step. There's legacy building.
- 42:38Legacy building is where you've taken your pain and your grief and you turned
- 42:43it into healing and then you turned it into growth and then you turned it into
- 42:46striving and success and then you were significant because you were helping
- 42:51others and now you're creating a legacy.
- 42:54A legacy is one that other people will follow in your footsteps,
- 42:57whether it's your children, whether it's aunts, uncles, parents,
- 43:01whether it's just your neighbor or someone that you don't even know.
- 43:06So people create legacies and it's the last step of true human transformation.
- 43:12And once you get to the point where you're making a legacy, your significance
- 43:16that you created from all that you've grown through, and I say grown through
- 43:21because it was growth, It will be amazing.
- 43:24And you get to this legacy point, and you take your children there with you,
- 43:28and they get to the point and they see, wow, you're strong. You're unstoppable.
- 43:33That's the goal. I wish that on everyone. I truly do.
- 43:38It doesn't matter if you have a nine-to-five job. You can create a legacy with that.
- 43:42You can make your job the happiest place for all the people you work with.
- 43:46You can do things better than anyone else.
- 43:49Because you've grown through so much. Maybe you created your company on the
- 43:53side. Maybe you don't. Maybe you enjoy being a janitor.
- 43:57And every time you see the kids, you give them a high five.
- 44:00And you cheer up the whole school. That's a legacy.
- 44:04Because there's a kid down there that's maybe sad and depressed.
- 44:07And you're going to lift them up too.
- 44:09I hope that the people that have gone through these journeys don't stay in their
- 44:14grief. They don't get stuck.
- 44:16That they move past this and grow. and they move past this and have a legacy
- 44:20because your life was meant to be significant. You were meant to be so much more.
- 44:25You were meant to have and hold and heal. You were meant to have everything.
- 44:30You were meant to be amazing. So I hope that you recognize today that you are
- 44:37more than what happened to you, that once you get to the point that you're healed,
- 44:42you will find your purpose and your significance and hopefully your success.
- 44:46And I wish all the best for you. I wish all the blessings. I wish all the healing
- 44:51and I wish all the hope in the world.
- 44:53This is Diva Mia. I hope you have a great day.
- 44:56I hope you have a wonderful life. I hope this helped. I hope this helped a lot.
- 45:00I hope you can take this and grow in the future. Take care of yourself.
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