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The Tongs: A Vengeful Alliance · Crime Night

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  Speaker 1: Imagine this the pre dawn quiet of a village in Sharkia, Egypt,
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  Speaker 1: back in twenty fifteen. It's still dark, very still. You
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  Speaker 1: might hear the first faint crow of a rooster way
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  Speaker 1: off somewhere, but inside one house, a large, three story place,
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  Speaker 1: the silence is just absolute, almost heavy. Okay, Then small sounds,
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  Speaker 1: a spoon clinking softly against glass, a careful pour. And
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  Speaker 1: then something else is added to the drink, something subtle,
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  Speaker 1: almost invisible. You can almost feel someone holding their breath,
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  Speaker 1: See that cold, unwavering look in their eyes in the
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  Speaker 1: dim light, my mood. The man of the house, he
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  Speaker 1: trains his breakfast completely unsuspecting. Oh no, And the effect
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  Speaker 1: is immediate, swift, utterly final, no sound, no struggle, just stillness.
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  Speaker 2: Wow.
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  Speaker 1: Then the work begins, calculated, precise. His body is wrapped
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  Speaker 1: tightly in a rug, dragged across the floor. A soft,
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  Speaker 1: heavy thudding sound into the living room, killing and the
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  Speaker 1: person responsible. They just step out of the house, back
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  Speaker 1: into the village. As it starts to wake up. The
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  Speaker 1: door clicks, leaving this terrible secret behind.
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  Speaker 2: Such a stark image to start with, it.
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  Speaker 1: Really is okay, let's unpack this a bit. What you've
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  Speaker 1: just been dropped into. Is the chilling climax of what
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  Speaker 1: the police later called the Pincer's case Sharkilla twenty fifteen.
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  Speaker 1: It's just such cold calculation, isn't it, especially in what
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  Speaker 1: seems like a domestic setting. What's your first take on
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  Speaker 1: that level of premeditation.
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  Speaker 2: Well, it's fascinating and horrifying, obviously, but it really shows how,
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  Speaker 2: seemingly I guess, ordinary domestic disputes, things about money, family control,
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  Speaker 2: when you mix those with these deep seated desires, maybe
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  Speaker 2: a sense of injustice, real or perceived, it can just
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  Speaker 2: escalate into something truly monstrous. This isn't just a crime story,
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  Speaker 2: is it. It's really a deep dive into how envy,
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  Speaker 2: how that feeling of betrayal within a family can become
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  Speaker 2: so corrosive.
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  Speaker 1: Absolutely, it shows how a desire for security, which is understandable,
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  Speaker 1: can twist into something much darker, like a need for
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  Speaker 1: absolute control, maybe even revenge.
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  Speaker 2: Exactly.
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  Speaker 1: So, to really get how Mamod ended up wrapped in
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  Speaker 1: that rug like some discarded secret, we need to rewind.
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  Speaker 1: We're going back eight years to two thousand and seven.
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  Speaker 1: We need to untangle this really complex web of family
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  Speaker 1: ambition and this fatal thirst for wealth that just slowly,
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  Speaker 1: slowly tightened around him.
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  Speaker 2: So two thousand and seven, what's the scene all right?
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  Speaker 1: So picture of Mood. He's twenty seven. His father died years.
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  Speaker 2: Ago when he was young, ah okay.
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  Speaker 1: And his mother and his sister became well the absolute
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  Speaker 1: center of his world, hugely influential. He made no decisions,
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  Speaker 1: like none without checking with them first.
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  Speaker 2: Wow, that's tense, totally.
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  Speaker 1: It sounds like he was almost completely overshadowed by.
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  Speaker 2: Them, right, and the family itself, they're.
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  Speaker 1: Well regarded, you know. Quiet family lived peacefully in the village.
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  Speaker 1: Their home was that big three story house we mentioned.
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  Speaker 1: Mood was on the top floor, the third floor, his
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  Speaker 1: mother on the first, his sister on the second, living
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  Speaker 1: together but sort of separate, stacked.
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  Speaker 2: On top of each other, almost literally exactly.
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  Speaker 1: And Mahmud had money. He'd inherited the house, plus a
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  Speaker 1: share in agricultural land managed by his uncles that brought
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  Speaker 1: in a steady income.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, so financially secure.
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  Speaker 1: Very He also worked as a pharmacy assistant, but the
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  Speaker 1: inheritance was the main thing. Physically, maybe not a standout,
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  Speaker 1: but known as respectable and crucially wealthy, and.
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  Speaker 2: That wealth it acts like a magnet, doesn't it.
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  Speaker 1: It really did, because around this time two thousand and seven,
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  Speaker 1: Ma Mood decides to marry Fatma. She's a neighbor known
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  Speaker 1: for being beautiful. Okay, apparently lots of young men wanted
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  Speaker 1: to marry her. Her family was described as kind symbol.
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  Speaker 2: Folk, and Mahmud's mother and sister, given their.
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  Speaker 1: Influence, surprisingly they approved. They saw her beauty, her respectable family,
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  Speaker 1: and maybe you know, looking at their son through rosed
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  Speaker 1: into glasses, they felt he deserved someone beautiful, a match
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  Speaker 1: for his status.
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  Speaker 2: Interesting and Fatma's side, what were her motivations?
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  Speaker 1: Pretty clear? Actually, Mamood was rich. That guaranteed her future,
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  Speaker 1: the house, the land, These were major assets, security.
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  Speaker 2: For life, So less about love, more about practicality or ambition.
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  Speaker 1: It seems that way for Fatma, the financial security seemed
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  Speaker 1: to be the main thing.
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  Speaker 2: Right. So this raises that classic question, doesn't it? What
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  Speaker 2: happens when money when financial security is the main driver
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  Speaker 2: for getting married, especially when one partner, Ma Mood in
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  Speaker 2: this case, already has these incredibly strong family ties. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: Fatma was apparently quite upfront about her ambitions. She saw
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  Speaker 2: his wealth as her way up her security. But even so,
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  Speaker 2: you can just see the seeds of conflict being sown
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  Speaker 2: right there, especially with Mamod's very dominant mother and sister
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  Speaker 2: already so deeply involved in his life.
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  Speaker 1: It was a ticking clock, really, a clash waiting to happen,
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  Speaker 1: and happened it did. Yeah, almost immediately after the wedding,
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  Speaker 1: friction just ignited.
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  Speaker 2: Absolute.
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  Speaker 1: Fatma moves into the third floor apartment ma Mood's apartment,
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  Speaker 1: but it wasn't really hers. His mother and sister had
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  Speaker 1: decorated and furnished the whole place completely to their taste,
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  Speaker 1: their justification. They knew Mahmud best, what he liked, what
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  Speaker 1: he did.
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  Speaker 2: Wow, that's controlling, an immediate statement of ownership really totally.
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  Speaker 1: But the real shocker came soon after Fatma discovered they
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  Speaker 1: had duplicate keys to her apartment. Yes, and they used them.
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  Speaker 1: They just let themselves in whenever they pleased, do whatever
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  Speaker 1: they wanted, zero privacy, constant presence.
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  Speaker 2: That's unbelievable. How did she react?
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  Speaker 1: Surprisingly? Perhaps she kept quiet, strategic silence. She was calculating,
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  Speaker 1: maybe planning to build her position first and do it
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  Speaker 1: until she felt more secure planning her own long game,
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  Speaker 1: seems like it. Her focus stayed laser sharp on the inheritance,
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  Speaker 1: the house, the land, the money that was the prize.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, so time passes, a.
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  Speaker 1: Year goes by, and the sun is born.
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  Speaker 2: Hmmm. A child that often changes the dynamic for Fatma.
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  Speaker 1: It brought a sense of security about the inheritance. Her
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  Speaker 1: son would inherit from Mom.
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  Speaker 2: Mood right legally, yes, but it also.
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  Speaker 1: Brought new problems, or rather intensified the old ones. A
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  Speaker 1: mother and sister exactly. Now they had a grandchild to
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  Speaker 1: fuss over. They started interfering massively and raising the child,
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  Speaker 1: extending their control, you know, of course.
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  Speaker 2: And Ma Mood what was his role in all this?
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  Speaker 1: Passive? Tragically passive? He just avoided conflict at all costs.
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  Speaker 1: Wanted peace or maybe just quiet.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, but peace at what price?
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  Speaker 1: Right? You go to his pharmacy job, come back and
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  Speaker 1: basically ignore the rising tension, the suffocating atmosphere in his
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  Speaker 1: own home. It's kind of baffling, isn't it It is?
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  Speaker 2: But if we step back and look at the pattern, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: it's a clear pattern of control of encroachment. Mamood's passivity.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe he thought it was keeping the peace, but it
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  Speaker 2: actually fueled the conflict. It left a vacuum.
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  Speaker 1: Which his mother and sister rushed to.
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  Speaker 2: Film precisely, and that left Fatma feeling more and more trapped, powerless,
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  Speaker 2: Like her whole life, even her own apartment was being
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  Speaker 2: run by others.
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  Speaker 1: It's a pressure cooker situation, that kind of suffocating family dynamic,
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  Speaker 1: even if well intentioned.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe mm hmm Ma Mood just didn't and set any boundaries,
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  Speaker 2: so it just festered.
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  Speaker 1: So after three years of this, Fama hit her limit.
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  Speaker 1: She realized she has zero control, no rights, no real
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  Speaker 1: say in anything.
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  Speaker 2: I can imagine. What does she do?
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  Speaker 1: She started trying to break free desperately. First, she tried
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  Speaker 1: to convince my Mood sell the apartment, maybe even the
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  Speaker 1: whole house, buy a new place, crucially in their son's name.
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  Speaker 2: A bold move trying to secure independence and the assets.
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  Speaker 1: Very bold but predictable outcome. Mother and sister shot it
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  Speaker 1: down instantly.
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  Speaker 2: No way, okay B.
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  Speaker 1: Plan B. She suggested Momod sell part of his inherited land,
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  Speaker 1: use the money to start his own business. Get away
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  Speaker 1: from the pharmacy job.
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  Speaker 2: Mean some financial independence from the family structure.
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  Speaker 1: Right and her underlying hope probably was that she could
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  Speaker 1: control this new business.
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  Speaker 2: Makes sense? Did it work?
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  Speaker 1: Nope, same result. Mother and sister vetoed it. Their influence
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  Speaker 1: was just absolute.
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  Speaker 2: And they must have sensed what she was trying to do.
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  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, the mother especially, she sensed Fatma trying to
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  Speaker 1: pull my mood away, create distance, so she retaliated by
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  Speaker 1: scrutinizing Fatma constantly, her cleaning, her cooking, her clothes. Everything
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  Speaker 1: became a target for criticism, non stop.
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  Speaker 2: Nitpicking, making her life miserable exactly.
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  Speaker 1: Fatima finally realized this relationship, this marriage is broken beyond repair.
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  Speaker 1: She wasn't just an outsider, she was the enemy, now
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  Speaker 1: a target.
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  Speaker 2: And Mamood himself was he oblivious?
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  Speaker 1: Not entirely. Around this time he started getting suspicious too.
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  Speaker 1: He apparently told people he felt treachery in Fatima's eyes.
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  Speaker 1: Woo yeah. He started fearing she'd betray him if she
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  Speaker 1: ever got control of his assets.
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  Speaker 2: And I bet his mother and sister were feeding that fear.
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  Speaker 1: Constantly, whispering in his ear day in day out. Fatma's
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  Speaker 1: not good, don't trust her, that sort of thing.
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  Speaker 2: So the whole situation was just poisoned.
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  Speaker 1: Completely, which led to the inevitable divorce in t I
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  Speaker 1: was eleven, right, Fatma took her son went back to
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  Speaker 1: her family's home. She was reeling, obviously, but then the
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  Speaker 1: real blow. The shock wasn't just the divorce. It was
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  Speaker 1: discovering what Mamod had done with.
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  Speaker 2: The apartment, the one they lived in.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, he'd transferred the ownership, essentially signed it over to
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  Speaker 1: his mother.
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  Speaker 2: Whoa why.
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  Speaker 1: Fatima believed it was a clear calculated move, specifically to
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  Speaker 1: stop their son from inheriting it.
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  Speaker 2: That's incredibly harsh, cutting out his own son.
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  Speaker 1: Fatima felt utterly completely betrayed. She was convinced her in
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  Speaker 1: laws were the real reason for the divorce, that they'd
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  Speaker 1: orchestrated her removal.
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  Speaker 2: Well, they certainly played a.
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  Speaker 1: Huge role, right. She felt she'd walked away with nothing,
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  Speaker 1: zero gained from years of misery, and this burning desire
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  Speaker 1: ignited in her revenge. She had to get a right
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  Speaker 1: her due by any means possible.
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  Speaker 2: That feeling of injustice can be incredibly powerful, dangerous.
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  Speaker 1: Even definitely so. Fast forward six months after the divorce,
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  Speaker 1: Ma mood stole the pharmacy and he meets someone new ilhim.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, who's ill.
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  Speaker 1: She worked there too, as a cleaner, also divorced, no kids.
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  Speaker 1: Ma mood found her attractive, decided pretty quickly.
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  Speaker 2: To marry her, and her motivations eerily.
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  Speaker 1: Similar to Fatima's. Actually, she saw Momod as rich, a provider.
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  Speaker 2: Stability, history repeating itself pretty much.
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  Speaker 1: Ilheim had also heard the village talk, you know, the
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  Speaker 1: story that Fatma was not good, that she was the
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  Speaker 1: reason the first marriage failed.
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  Speaker 2: So Ilhum bought the narrative.
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  Speaker 1: Seems like it, And like Fatma, her primary focus was
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  Speaker 1: the wealth, securing her future through.
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  Speaker 2: Him and the mother and sister. What do they think
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  Speaker 2: of wife number two?
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  Speaker 1: They proved again they were probably glad Mamod was moving on.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe saw it as a way to show Fatma he
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  Speaker 1: was still desirable, still a catch, A bit petty, perhaps
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  Speaker 1: perhaps so.
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  Speaker 2: Early twenty twelve, the second marriage begins.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, and guess where they moved?
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  Speaker 2: Oh no, don't tell me.
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  Speaker 1: The same third floor apartment, same furniture, everything exactly the same.
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  Speaker 2: It's like a ghost of the first marriage. Unbelievable.
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  Speaker 1: But Ilhem was different from Fatma, at least initially smarter
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  Speaker 1: in her approach. Maybe, how so, worked hard to cultivate
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  Speaker 1: an excellent relationship with the mother and sister played nice,
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  Speaker 1: endured their interference. They're meddling all with her eye on
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  Speaker 1: the prize.
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  Speaker 2: Playing the long game, more patient than Fatma exactly.
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  Speaker 1: But then a major obstacle appeared, a huge one for
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  Speaker 1: her plans. What is that Ilim discovered chief fertility issues.
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  Speaker 1: It would be very difficult, maybe impossible for her to
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  Speaker 1: have a child with.
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  Speaker 2: Mamood Ah, and a child, specifically a son was often
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  Speaker 2: seen as the key to securing inheritance and status.
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  Speaker 1: Precisely, this was a massive blow. How could she secure
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  Speaker 1: her rights, her share of the inheritance without a son
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  Speaker 1: to anchor her claim.
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  Speaker 2: What did Mamoud do?
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  Speaker 1: Typical Mamood promised to take her to a doctor see
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  Speaker 1: what could be done, but he kept putting it off.
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  Speaker 2: Procrastinating, avoiding the issue as always.
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  Speaker 1: Ilhum, for her part, kept quiet about it for now,
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  Speaker 1: biting her time.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, this is where it gets really really interesting, doesn't it?
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  Speaker 2: Also because Ilhum's situation, even though she played nice initially,
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  Speaker 2: it mirrors fat Both women drawn by the wealth find
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  Speaker 2: their plans blocked by the same controlling family, and now
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  Speaker 2: ILAM's inability to conceive creates the similar desperation this lack
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  Speaker 2: of leverage that Fatma felt it.
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  Speaker 1: Puts them both in this precarious spot, vulnerable, maybe open
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  Speaker 1: to well drastic measures.
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  Speaker 2: It's this recurring pattern, isn't it, Women drawn to the
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  Speaker 2: money only to find themselves trapped by the exact same
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  Speaker 2: controlling dynamic.
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  Speaker 1: And over time Ilhelm started seeing things more clearly what happened.
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  Speaker 1: She learned that Fatma, the ex wife, had filed a
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  Speaker 1: lawsuit against Mamood for failing to provide child support for
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  Speaker 1: their son.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, so reality starts.
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  Speaker 1: Creeping in right, And even though the mother and sister
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  Speaker 1: kept bad mouthing Fatma constantly saying how terrible she was,
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  Speaker 1: ilhim living in that house. Seeing the dynamics firsthand day
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  Speaker 1: after day, she started to suspect Fatma hadn't been treated
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  Speaker 1: fairly at all.
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  Speaker 2: The pieces started fitting together from.
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  Speaker 1: The inside exactly. As more time passed, Ilhem came to
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  Speaker 1: a stark realization she wasn't going to gain anything here.
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  Speaker 1: The mother and sister would always control my mood, and
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  Speaker 1: she still didn't have a child.
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  Speaker 2: The calculation wasn't adding up for her, not at all.
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  Speaker 1: She started asking herself that gnawing question, what have I
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  Speaker 1: actually gained from all this.
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  Speaker 2: And meanwhile, Fatma is out there somewhere out.
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  Speaker 1: There thinking the exact same thing, just from a different angle,
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  Speaker 1: unbeknownst to each other. At first wow, Fatma back at
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  Speaker 1: her parents' place, she's also plotting how to get her rights,
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  Speaker 1: her son's rights by force if she asked to.
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  Speaker 2: She needed leverage and inside track.
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  Speaker 1: Precisely, she needed someone she could trust inside Mahmud's house,
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  Speaker 1: someone with the same or similar motivations.
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  Speaker 2: Ilium, the current wife, the other trapped woman.
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  Speaker 1: Ilum was the obvious choice. But how do you even
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  Speaker 1: approach someone with well with what Fatma was probably thinking?
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  Speaker 2: It's incredibly risky.
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  Speaker 1: So Fatima started watching her meticulously, observing Ilhim's routines when
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  Speaker 1: she went to the market. How long she stayed out gathering.
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  Speaker 2: Intelligence, setting the stage for a very dangerous meeting.
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  Speaker 1: And then early twenty fourteen, it happened, the fateful first meeting.
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  Speaker 1: Fatma just waited for Illim one day intercepted her, asked
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  Speaker 1: if they could talk.
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  Speaker 2: What must that conversation have been like?
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  Speaker 1: Intense? I imagine they sat down and despite being rivals
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  Speaker 1: in a way, there was this shared understanding, shared desperation,
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  Speaker 1: a common enemy exactly. Both women shared that burning greed
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  Speaker 1: from a Mood's inheritance, yes, but also this deep desire
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  Speaker 1: for revenge against his mother and sister. They wanted to
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  Speaker 1: break their hearts.
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  Speaker 2: Wow, that's potent.
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  Speaker 1: Fatima told her story, painting herself as the victim. Obviously,
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  Speaker 1: Ilhim listened and she saw herself recognized her own situation,
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  Speaker 1: lured by money, now trapped gaining nothing.
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  Speaker 2: A bond formed over shared grievance.
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  Speaker 1: They agreed to be friends in secret. Fatma, still cautious,
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  Speaker 1: didn't reveal her full plan yet. She needed to build
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  Speaker 1: that trust first.
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  Speaker 2: It's that classic enemy of my enemy is my friend's scenario,
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  Speaker 2: isn't it taken to a terrifying extreme.
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  Speaker 1: Absolutely their individual anger, their shared feeling of being oppressed
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  Speaker 1: by Mahmout's family. It forged this unlikely and ultimately truly
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  Speaker 1: deadly alliance.
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  Speaker 2: That trust building phase is so critical, isn't it. It
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  Speaker 2: just highlights the cunning, the careful planning that was already underway, and.
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  Speaker 1: The shared sense of victimhood that must have resonated deeply.
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  Speaker 2: No doubt it gave them common ground.
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  Speaker 1: What's remarkable is how quickly Ilham committed. Really, she went
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  Speaker 1: home after that first meeting, and apparently it just cemented
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  Speaker 1: her own desire for revenge. She wanted to break the
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  Speaker 1: in law's hearts just as much, maybe even more than
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  Speaker 1: Fatma did.
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  Speaker 2: Fama maybe didn't realize how vengeful Ilhim truly.
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  Speaker 1: Was, possibly not, because the very next day, Ella messaged Fatma,
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  Speaker 1: let's meet again. I need to know the plan.
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  Speaker 2: WHOA no hesitation none.
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  Speaker 1: An hour later they met again.
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  Speaker 2: And this time Fatma laid.
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  Speaker 1: It out the first part, Yes, a chilling calculated plan.
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  Speaker 1: Phase one, Eldam had to dramatically improve her relationship with Mamood,
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  Speaker 1: make it look like they were deeply in love, stronger
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  Speaker 1: than ever.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, build facade.
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  Speaker 1: Simultaneously, she had to manufacture conflict, pick fights with neighbors,
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  Speaker 1: accuse them of harassing her, saying inappropriate things to her.
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  Speaker 1: Why so it would look like Mahmood was fiercely defending
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  Speaker 1: his wife's honor, fighting for.
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  Speaker 2: Her, creating a narrative making him look jealous, protective exactly.
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  Speaker 1: And Ilham, driven by her own vengeance, she went above
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  Speaker 1: and beyond, started two separate conflicts, made Mamod physically fight
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  Speaker 1: two different.
• 16:32
  Speaker 2: Neighbors, solidifying that public image.
• 16:34
  Speaker 1: Ways too. Once that was done, Ilmost to tell Ma
• 16:38
  Speaker 1: Mood she'd found rats in the house, rats, six year
• 16:40
  Speaker 1: old rats. She needed strong poison, she'd say, and since
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: Mamood worked at the pharmacy.
• 16:45
  Speaker 2: The owner would trust him, give him a powerful poison,
• 16:47
  Speaker 2: no questions asked.
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: Precisely, Illam's instructions were, get the poison, keep it safe.
• 16:53
  Speaker 2: And wait, no rats, just poison, just poison.
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: They agreed again, keep the alliance totally secret.
• 16:59
  Speaker 2: So did ill Him do it?
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: She did a month pass to the outside world. Mamood
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: and Ilham looked like a strong, happy couple. Then Ilham
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: contacted Fadmah. Message received, Message received, Phase one and two complete.
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: I owe the poison. I'm ready. Now tell me the
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: rest and tell me exactly what's in it for.
• 17:18
  Speaker 2: Me, demanding her share.
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: Okay, this is where as you said, it gets really dark.
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: The groundwork is laid, the manipulation is done. Now the
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: full horror.
• 17:27
  Speaker 2: Comes out, the meticulous planning, the coldness of it all.
• 17:30
  Speaker 2: It's staggering, using his own protective instincts against him like that.
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: It really is. It shows how far that sense of
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: being wronged mixed with that financial desperation pushed them.
• 17:41
  Speaker 2: So what was the full plan?
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: Vadmah revealed it simple, brutal. Yeah, they would murder my Mood,
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: then hide his body, and the blame would fall squarely
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: on those neighbors, the ones Mahmood had just publicly fought with, supposedly.
• 17:55
  Speaker 2: Over illim the perfect scape goats.
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: They believe. So they thought the case would probably go cold,
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: remain unsolved, leaving both women totally above suspicion and free.
• 18:05
  Speaker 2: And the benefits.
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: What was the payout for Fatma Mamod's son inherits everything? Crucially,
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: Fatma had found out Mahmoud was planning to sign his
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: share of the land over to.
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: His mother, disinheriting his son again, just like with the apartment.
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: Exactly, so the murder would guarantee the Sun inherits what
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: Fatma felt.
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: Was rightfully his and ILAM's cut.
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: Fatima promised her cash money from the Sun's inheritance once
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: it came through. Plus for Ilhem that deep satisfaction of
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: shattering the in law's hearts. That was a huge.
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: Motivator for her revenge and profit, a deadly combination.
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: They even picked a specific day they knew Mahmoud's sister
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: usually traveled to visit relatives that day.
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: Leaving the house emptier, less chance of witnesses.
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: Right, only the elderly mother would be home, probably on
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: the first floor, less likely to notice anything unusual upstairs.
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: Okay, so the day arrives.
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: The day arrives, Ilhelm wakes up early. She prepares breakfast
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: for Mamod, and she prepares that fatal glass of juice,
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: heading the entire vial of poison. Just like that, just
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: like that, he drinks it collapses. She wraps his body
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: and the rug, drags it into the living room, all
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: according to.
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: Plan, ready for disposal.
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: She then leaves the apartment, acting normally like she just
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: popping out to the market. Fatma is waiting outside nearby
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: with a sack. The plan is to take the body
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: to the canal.
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: Everything seems to be going exactly as planned, two perfectly almost.
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: And that's when the unexpected happens, the complication.
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: What.
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: As Ilham exits the main door of the house, she
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: literally runs into Mahmoud's sister.
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: The sister, but she was supposed to be traveling.
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: Apparently the sister had made a secret arrangement with Mahmoud
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: to travel together that morning something Ilham knew absolutely nothing about.
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: Oh my god, a hidden detail.
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: The sister sees Ilham alone, Mamod isn't with her. She
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: immediately asks, where's Mamood.
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: Ilham must have panicked, she.
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: Looked agitated, despite trying to say composed. She lied quickly
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: said Mamod came home late, wasn't feeling well, decided not
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: to go to work after all. She was just off
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: to the market to get food to make him a
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: nice meal.
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: A plausible lie, maybe, but under scrutiny exactly.
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: And it just raises that point again, doesn't it How
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: even the most meticulous plans fall apart because of one
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: unforeseen human element, one tiny change in routine.
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: It's always the unpredictable human factor that chance encounter that
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: secret plan. It unravels everything.
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: The sister wasn't entirely convinced Ilim's story, her demeanor, something.
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: Felt off or intuition screaming right.
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: She waited downstairs for about half an hour. Her suspicion
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: just grew and grew, that cold dread started setting in.
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: What did she do?
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: She acted on her gut, took out her own key
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: to Mamood's apartment. Remember the family all had access and
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: went upstairs.
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: Oh no.
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: She walks into the apartment and she sees it, the
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: rolled up rug in the middle of the living room.
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: She knew.
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: As she got closer, the horrifying realization hit her her
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: brother was inside dead. Her screams just filled the house,
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: the street, neighbors came running, The authorities were called immediately.
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: The whole plan just collapsed in an instant, completely shattered.
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: Ilhem. Meanwhile, after leaving the house and seeing the sister
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: she'd called, Fatma, frantically explained the disaster. They both decided
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: to flee. Too late, way too late. The police arrived investigated.
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: Ilhim was quickly identified as the prime suspect. She was arrested.
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: Did she confess under interrogation? Yes, yeah, she confessed everything spilled,
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: the entire story, which led the police straight to.
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: Fatma, and Fatma was arrested too.
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: Yes, The investigation concerned everything Illam said. Fatma was the mastermind,
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: the planner. Ilim was the executor, the one.
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: Who delivered the poison and the sentence.
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: Both women were sentenced to death.
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: Wow, what a chilling end. This story is just such
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: a stark reminder, isn't it the devastating consequences when greed,
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: when that sense of entitlement just festers and boils over
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: into revenge, really is And what's an insightful I think,
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: is how Mahmoud's family, maybe trying to protect him, maybe
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: just want and control. Yeah, they inadvertently created the very desperation,
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: the very environment that push these two women towards conspiracy
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: and murder.
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: It makes you ask when does caring become suffocation? And
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: what happens when people feel so suffocated, so trapped they
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: see no other way out?
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: Exactly. It's a terrible tragedy and it really highlights how
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: those family dynamics, even if the intention started out okay,
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: can create an environment where these desperate measures start to
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: feel like the only option for people who feel powerless.
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: And ultimately it's Mamood who pay the price, and perhaps
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: even more tragically, his young son caught in this toxic
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: mess of greed and resentment.
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: He loses his father and his mother is sentenced to death.
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: Just devastating.
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: So thinking about all this, what does it mean for you?
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: Listening this deep dive into the pincer's case really forces
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: us to wonder, where is that line the line between
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: asserting your rights, demanding what you feel your owed, and
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: then tipping over into those darkest impulses when you face
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: injustice or just overwhelming family control. What stands out to
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: you is the core lesson from this really chilling sequence
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: of events, and
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: Maybe how could different boundaries, different choices by anyone involved,
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: have changed this whole tragic trajectory something to really think about.