Latest / Brian Thomas / IHeartMedia Aviation Expert Jay Ratliff
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- 0:00Speaker 1: A twenty nine on a Thursday of Love. This time
- 0:02Speaker 1: a week I heard media aviation extpert Jay Ratliff joins
- 0:05Speaker 1: us every week to talk aviation issues when we're not
- 0:07Speaker 1: talking stocks. Right, Jay, welcome back, my friend. Love having
- 0:10Speaker 1: you on the show.
- 0:12Speaker 2: I will talk about either one of them my friends,
- 0:14Speaker 2: but it's it's always good, always good to be here.
- 0:17Speaker 1: Jay always follows up the segment sometime in the morning,
- 0:20Speaker 1: like an hour from now. He's say, look, I'm made
- 0:21Speaker 1: eight grand today. It took me five minutes.
- 0:25Speaker 2: You actually I'm using I'm using a stock as we speak,
- 0:28Speaker 2: so they can do anything with it. For the end
- 0:30Speaker 2: of the segment, I'll let you know.
- 0:32Speaker 3: It only takes you a couple of minutes to turn
- 0:34Speaker 3: it around. I like to report you get that's Brian.
- 0:37Speaker 2: When I tell people that I I reduce the risk
- 0:42Speaker 2: of my stock trading by day trading, they look at
- 0:45Speaker 2: me like I'm nuts. But if you can take a
- 0:46Speaker 2: small bit of it, put it in the market for
- 0:49Speaker 2: you know, eight ten minutes at a time, you're reducing
- 0:52Speaker 2: your risk big time, and that's better protecting your portfolio.
- 0:56Speaker 2: So to me, that's the way to do it. I'm
- 0:58Speaker 2: not a part of the long term by holding prey
- 1:00Speaker 2: crowd and now the last six weeks, I think I'm
- 1:02Speaker 2: averaging seven thousand dollars a week. So look, Northwest Airlines
- 1:07Speaker 2: didn't pay me that. I mean it was worth it.
- 1:13Speaker 2: But I know, I know, I know how corporate America is, right,
- 1:16Speaker 2: I do care what we think.
- 1:18Speaker 3: You don't care.
- 1:19Speaker 1: And Southwest Airlines, I guess, is not going to be
- 1:21Speaker 1: cunning an eleven million dollar check. What's the story on this?
- 1:23Speaker 1: I know, I know you're really pleased about this outcome.
- 1:26Speaker 2: So you had and you just had to start with
- 1:28Speaker 2: this one, right, Let's get Jay's blood pressure up. The
- 1:31Speaker 2: Southwest Airlines two Christmases ago, it was the week of
- 1:34Speaker 2: twenty twenty three Christmas week, they had a computer meltdown.
- 1:38Speaker 2: I mean, no other way to put it. The computer
- 1:41Speaker 2: system that we later found out was last updated in
- 1:43Speaker 2: like I don't know, nineteen ninety four, had crashed. This
- 1:46Speaker 2: is a computer system for scheduling that was developed, right,
- 1:50Speaker 2: I think at a time when Southwest was a third
- 1:52Speaker 2: of the size of what they are now. So the
- 1:54Speaker 2: Department Transportation under the Biden administration stepped in and said
- 1:58Speaker 2: time out here, you really drop the ball with regards
- 2:02Speaker 2: to your customers, we're finding you thirty five million dollars.
- 2:06Speaker 2: They were holding the airlines accountable. I was thrilled. And look,
- 2:09Speaker 2: Southwest is a great airline, but when you don't devote
- 2:12Speaker 2: the resources that your employees need, yeah, you've got to
- 2:14Speaker 2: pay for it. So Southwest has paid twenty four million
- 2:16Speaker 2: of that. The next payment of eleven million was due
- 2:19Speaker 2: in the next month in January, and the US Department
- 2:23Speaker 2: Transportation stepped in said, you know what, You've already paid enough.
- 2:26Speaker 2: You don't need to pay any more. You promise never
- 2:29Speaker 2: to do it again. It's going to be okay. Just
- 2:32Speaker 2: forget about that last of eleven million dollars. Now, Yeah,
- 2:35Speaker 2: that bothers me a great deal. But this is the
- 2:37Speaker 2: trend of the Trump administration, which I'm a big fan of,
- 2:42Speaker 2: with regards to the treatment with the airline industry. The
- 2:44Speaker 2: airlines almost get a free pass. Not from a safety
- 2:47Speaker 2: related standpoint, Don't get me wrong there, because the FAA
- 2:50Speaker 2: is still doing their job there, trying to keep everything
- 2:52Speaker 2: safe as they can. But Brian, it just it drives
- 2:55Speaker 2: me out of my mind when we've got a situation
- 2:58Speaker 2: when you have just time after time after time of
- 3:03Speaker 2: having a situation where you've got this ongoing issue of
- 3:08Speaker 2: airlines getting away with what they do. It just it
- 3:10Speaker 2: drives me crazy.
- 3:12Speaker 3: Yeah, I can imagine.
- 3:13Speaker 1: So this was a proprietary software that Southwest itself developed, yes, okay,
- 3:19Speaker 1: part of their system.
- 3:20Speaker 2: And I can't remember if it was the flight control system,
- 3:24Speaker 2: not flight control system, but if it was a crew
- 3:26Speaker 2: management system or something they were using for their flight
- 3:29Speaker 2: control as far as the using that, but it was
- 3:34Speaker 2: a system that was woefully outdated and over the years
- 3:37Speaker 2: Southwest has had issues with this. But Brian, they have
- 3:40Speaker 2: an all star team at Southwest and every single time
- 3:43Speaker 2: the men and women would find a way to pull
- 3:45Speaker 2: it out. They would rise to the occasion and save
- 3:48Speaker 2: the day. And sadly that's what worked against Southwest Airlines
- 3:52Speaker 2: because they could always rely on that happening. Well, it
- 3:54Speaker 2: just got to the point where it was just too much,
- 3:56Speaker 2: too quick, and there was no way they could get
- 3:58Speaker 2: past it. And yeah, you had a lot of passengers
- 4:02Speaker 2: that were in essence put in a situation over the
- 4:05Speaker 2: busy Christmas seat travel season, all the flights were filled
- 4:08Speaker 2: where you gonna put them. I mean, you've got a
- 4:10Speaker 2: flight of one hundred and fifty three people just canceled.
- 4:12Speaker 2: Every single flight around is full. I don't know where
- 4:15Speaker 2: you're gonna put them.
- 4:16Speaker 1: I understand the reason for the fine, and that becomes
- 4:18Speaker 1: crystal clear, Unlike, for example, if it was the outdated
- 4:22Speaker 1: ancient air traffic control system. So when's the federal government
- 4:25Speaker 1: can of find itself for not improving that one?
- 4:28Speaker 2: Oh, they'll find it and then they'll wave the fine
- 4:30Speaker 2: and we'll all feel better because they find themselves. That's
- 4:33Speaker 2: how it works.
- 4:34Speaker 3: I learned that from you, brother, amen.
- 4:36Speaker 1: And meanwhile they're they're busily scrambling around looking for five
- 4:39Speaker 1: and a quarter it's floppy disk to keep the thing
- 4:41Speaker 1: up and running.
- 4:43Speaker 2: Seven forty seven. Still, yeah, still are at a at
- 4:47Speaker 2: a point where they do get their updates through that.
- 4:50Speaker 1: So yes, indeed, I'll tell you what. Rather than go
- 4:52Speaker 1: extra long and draw the hairy eyeball from Executiveroducer, Joe
- 4:55Speaker 1: Strecker will pause right now, we'll bring you back. We'll
- 4:57Speaker 1: find out about this quantus flight, which is u given
- 5:00Speaker 1: faulty load and balanced numbers before takeoff. That sounds frightening.
- 5:03Speaker 1: Plus Tampa Airport award bonuses to some workers, et cetera.
- 5:07Speaker 1: We got multiple topics to go over with. I heart
- 5:09Speaker 1: media Aviation Expert Jay Ratlef's stick Around Right Back.
- 5:12Speaker 3: Fifty five KRC Champion Windows, seasons, the talk spatial. Have
- 5:17Speaker 3: you ever been in a cockpit.
- 5:18Speaker 1: Before Jay Ratliff has I heard Media Aviation Expert. We
- 5:22Speaker 1: had the pleasure of his company every Thursday for a
- 5:25Speaker 1: few segments. Segment number two here, This one's kind of weird.
- 5:28Speaker 1: I don't know how this works in terms of the
- 5:30Speaker 1: load distribution on a plight on a flight, but apparently
- 5:33Speaker 1: you have to watch that kind of stuff. What happened
- 5:36Speaker 1: with this Quantus flight, Well, we had.
- 5:39Speaker 2: We had a situation where you know Quantus, which is
- 5:42Speaker 2: known as what the safest to.
- 5:44Speaker 3: Airline in the world according to rain Man.
- 5:47Speaker 2: Yeah, that's absolutely the case. What ended up happening was
- 5:52Speaker 2: that the crew was given the detail. Well, what we're
- 5:56Speaker 2: hearing is that Quantus flight in December took off with
- 5:59Speaker 2: fifty one more passengers than were reported. Now, the weight
- 6:03Speaker 2: and balance calculations for each flight are exact, I mean
- 6:06Speaker 2: to the last pound, and a lot of times if
- 6:09Speaker 2: there's bad weather, the crew can say, you know what,
- 6:11Speaker 2: we could use some extra fuel because we may have
- 6:15Speaker 2: encounter delays. So since we've got a lighter load, let's
- 6:19Speaker 2: go ahead and put on some more fuel. And the
- 6:21Speaker 2: problem is you could then exceed your maximum allowable takeoff weight,
- 6:25Speaker 2: and you've got a problem because they had ten thousand
- 6:28Speaker 2: pounds of extra weight they did not know about. Now,
- 6:31Speaker 2: they could have also said, since we have a lighter load,
- 6:35Speaker 2: let's take off from a shorter runway. So yeah, it
- 6:39Speaker 2: just the the the ramifications of this being off this
- 6:42Speaker 2: much could have been could have been tragic, could have
- 6:45Speaker 2: been horrific. Now, the crew did taxi, they took off,
- 6:48Speaker 2: there was no problem, and it wasn't until they were
- 6:50Speaker 2: airborne that they realized when they were told what had
- 6:54Speaker 2: taken place. So as a result, you know, QUANTAS is investigating.
- 6:58Speaker 2: They're trying to look at this, trying to see exactly
- 7:00Speaker 2: what's taken place so that they can try to avoid
- 7:03Speaker 2: this kind of mistake from happening. In the airline industry.
- 7:06Speaker 2: As you and I have talked about forever, constantly shares
- 7:09Speaker 2: mistakes so that people at other airlines can learn from
- 7:13Speaker 2: what took place at Kuanas, so that they can make
- 7:15Speaker 2: sure they can take necessary steps to try to reduce
- 7:18Speaker 2: the likelihood of that taking effects so terrific company.
- 7:24Speaker 1: Yeah, the airline that the flight ended up with fifty
- 7:28Speaker 1: one more people than originally expected, is that?
- 7:31Speaker 3: Is that what I understand?
- 7:32Speaker 2: Know, then the manifest showed let's say that they were
- 7:35Speaker 2: expecting two hundred and fifty one people. The paperwork showed
- 7:38Speaker 2: two hundred, so that two hundred people boarded, but they
- 7:40Speaker 2: really had two hundred and fifty one, So the manifest
- 7:44Speaker 2: itself didn't match with what they had. And you give
- 7:47Speaker 2: the crew the total number of passengers, the bags, the cargo,
- 7:52Speaker 2: all the stuff, so that they can compute what their
- 7:55Speaker 2: their maximum takeoff weight is going to be, and it
- 7:57Speaker 2: dictates everything that they do on the flight deck. So
- 8:00Speaker 2: when that's off, then the most critical moment of flight
- 8:04Speaker 2: take off has been in essence compromised if you're not careful.
- 8:07Speaker 2: So that's one of the reasons that so often, you know,
- 8:12Speaker 2: we tend to overlook sometimes just how good flight crews
- 8:16Speaker 2: are and all the inner workings of what goes on
- 8:19Speaker 2: in the airline industry, and it's got to be exact,
- 8:21Speaker 2: and sadly in this case for some reason, Yeah, think
- 8:25Speaker 2: through ten thousand extra pounds on the aircraft and passengers
- 8:29Speaker 2: and bags and the flight crew is unaware. Well, they
- 8:33Speaker 2: were operating on a different set of data.
- 8:35Speaker 1: It seems unusual to me, just based on all the
- 8:37Speaker 1: stories that you've talked about in this segment over the years,
- 8:41Speaker 1: that they would rely on the manifest in determining how
- 8:44Speaker 1: much extra fuel in this case, they could put on
- 8:46Speaker 1: the plane. Because we listen, there's always a scramble at
- 8:49Speaker 1: the end. People coming up in the gate lay, they
- 8:50Speaker 1: buy a ticket last minute, some people don't show up,
- 8:52Speaker 1: they overbook a flight, in which case I imagine they
- 8:54Speaker 1: wouldn't add extra fuel. But just to rely on manifest
- 8:57Speaker 1: and not rely on a head count, that just seems no.
- 9:00Speaker 2: What the crew gets is exact. So the people at
- 9:04Speaker 2: the gate may be expecting three hundred people, but if
- 9:07Speaker 2: one hundred and eighty three get on board, that's the
- 9:09Speaker 2: number of the crew uses. The crew's given exact numbers.
- 9:11Speaker 2: We have one hundred and eighty three souls on board.
- 9:14Speaker 2: You've got all of that stuff squared away so that
- 9:16Speaker 2: everybody's operating from the same you know, the same thing.
- 9:20Speaker 2: The problem was what was put on the airplane. The
- 9:23Speaker 2: information gave the pilots was ten thousand pounds off. It
- 9:26Speaker 2: was an operation issue where they did not h Yeah,
- 9:30Speaker 2: and that was really the problem.
- 9:32Speaker 1: Well, I mean the horror that you know, I can
- 9:35Speaker 1: imagine might happen as a consequence of this. You know,
- 9:37Speaker 1: the planes is not going to have lift off, right,
- 9:39Speaker 1: I mean, isn't that really what you're talking about?
- 9:42Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean remember the horrific common air crash in
- 9:45Speaker 2: Lexington that happened because the crew took off on the
- 9:48Speaker 2: wrong runway which was too short And yeah, I mean
- 9:52Speaker 2: had had quantas done something like that where they needed
- 9:55Speaker 2: more run Brian, It's just it's you know, flying is
- 9:59Speaker 2: in incredibly, incredibly safe. My apologies to anybody who's on
- 10:03Speaker 2: their way to the airport right now, because it's not
- 10:05Speaker 2: like something that happens. But you know, when you have
- 10:09Speaker 2: the number of flights that we have in the course
- 10:10Speaker 2: of the day, and you have eight or ten million
- 10:12Speaker 2: people a day that are flying worldwide, how often do
- 10:15Speaker 2: we talk about an accident that takes place? Very very
- 10:18Speaker 2: rarely do we. And that's a result of the training
- 10:21Speaker 2: that the crews have, the incredible equipment that we have,
- 10:25Speaker 2: and you know, just all the things that go on
- 10:27Speaker 2: behind the scenes to keep things safe. But one of
- 10:29Speaker 2: the things we have to have is a very exact
- 10:32Speaker 2: count of everything that's on the airplane so that the
- 10:35Speaker 2: crew at the last moment can do their weight and
- 10:37Speaker 2: balance calculations they can go from there. A lot of
- 10:40Speaker 2: times with those comm air jets, we would have a
- 10:42Speaker 2: situation with those fifty passengers, which were great to have,
- 10:46Speaker 2: but boy, they were painting the butt because if you
- 10:48Speaker 2: had a long flight with a lot of fuel, you'd
- 10:50Speaker 2: have to leave four or five people off the plane
- 10:53Speaker 2: because of the weight and balance requirements because they had
- 10:55Speaker 2: to take extra fuel, or you could take all the
- 10:57Speaker 2: passengers and no bags, or where you could take forty
- 11:01Speaker 2: seven people in some of the bags. I mean, there
- 11:04Speaker 2: was always this tightrope. Now, the bigger the airplane gets,
- 11:07Speaker 2: the more relaxed you can be on that where the
- 11:10Speaker 2: airplane is going to be able to be big enough
- 11:11Speaker 2: that it can take everything that you have, but those
- 11:15Speaker 2: weight and balance numbers that you give to the crew
- 11:17Speaker 2: have to be exact.
- 11:18Speaker 1: So yeah, well it just reminds me that the de
- 11:23Speaker 1: icing the wing thing. Since we're getting a big winter
- 11:24Speaker 1: storm tonight. You know, my dad and I were on
- 11:26Speaker 1: that flight bringing the Bengals back from Denver, long, long
- 11:29Speaker 1: time ago, and we sat on the runway in this snow,
- 11:32Speaker 1: and it kept snowing. We kept sitting there and sitting there,
- 11:34Speaker 1: and sitting there and sitting there. My dad has this
- 11:36Speaker 1: just pale white, you know, power to him, and he's
- 11:40Speaker 1: kind of holding onto this armrest. And after we finally
- 11:42Speaker 1: took off, I'm like, Dad, what is wrong with you?
- 11:44Speaker 1: He said, they didn't de ice the wings. They didn't
- 11:47Speaker 1: de ice the wings. And it was like, what are
- 11:48Speaker 1: you talking about. So explained me the icing procedures and
- 11:50Speaker 1: apparently there's a time limit that you have to follow
- 11:52Speaker 1: and you're going to get the ice the wings. I'm
- 11:54Speaker 1: on a flight several many years later, same situation, sitting
- 11:57Speaker 1: on the runway in this it's kind of a sleety
- 12:00Speaker 1: coming down, and I just looked at the stewardess. I said,
- 12:03Speaker 1: is the pilot going to have the wings the ice
- 12:04Speaker 1: before we take off? And she goes, oh, don't worry
- 12:06Speaker 1: about that. The pilot knows what he's doing. And then,
- 12:08Speaker 1: you know, five minutes later, she disappears, and then the
- 12:11Speaker 1: captain comes on, we're going to be taking a brief
- 12:13Speaker 1: break to pull over and have the wings the ice.
- 12:15Speaker 1: And I always think that I was responsible for getting
- 12:18Speaker 1: the wings the ice because my dad brought that to
- 12:20Speaker 1: my attention when he didn't say a word.
- 12:22Speaker 2: Well, I mean, and you've got to be aware of that,
- 12:25Speaker 2: because Brian, it's just it's a critical thing. And I've
- 12:29Speaker 2: said before, if you really want to have a lot
- 12:31Speaker 2: of fun on a plane you're not on, you can
- 12:33Speaker 2: go to YouTube and look up. I think it's a
- 12:36Speaker 2: Russian aircraft that is taking off and it has like
- 12:39Speaker 2: I don't know, a put of snow on the wing.
- 12:41Speaker 3: Oh lord, yes, how can you get lift?
- 12:46Speaker 2: How that airplane got off the ground? I don't I
- 12:48Speaker 2: tell you this. I would have been the next aviation
- 12:50Speaker 2: story because I had I been anywhere near an exit,
- 12:53Speaker 2: I would have been out the door before they pressurize
- 12:55Speaker 2: that aircraft to get out of there, because there's no
- 12:58Speaker 2: way that aircraft.
- 13:00Speaker 3: All right, food for thought for people who are flying
- 13:03Speaker 3: later in this evening.
- 13:05Speaker 2: Again, apologies, I get I get lots of fun emails.
- 13:08Speaker 3: Like stop it.
- 13:09Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, I know, yeah, And I'm no huge
- 13:11Speaker 1: fan of flag. Anyway, let's pausele ring jay back got
- 13:13Speaker 1: a couple more stories to talk about and get.
- 13:15Speaker 3: Our hubs see ice A forty nine.
- 13:19Speaker 1: If you have KCD Talk Station Brian Thomas with j
- 13:22Speaker 1: ratliffar aviation Expert. The entirety of iHeart Media is aviation expert.
- 13:27Speaker 1: He's on all over the nation. We get in for
- 13:28Speaker 1: a few segments on Thursdays and I love it. Let's
- 13:30Speaker 1: talk real quick since tomorrow's Tech Friday with Dave Hatter,
- 13:33Speaker 1: the TSA is warning about using public Wi Fi while
- 13:36Speaker 1: traveling through airports.
- 13:39Speaker 2: You and I talked about the the the charging ports
- 13:44Speaker 2: that are at their airports and how to be careful. Yeah. Yeah,
- 13:48Speaker 2: because some some somehow we've had hackers that put out
- 13:51Speaker 2: some of these things like the fake ATM things or
- 13:54Speaker 2: things you put a gas pumps where people can unexpectedly
- 13:57Speaker 2: u you know, put something in and your your right
- 14:00Speaker 2: information is subject to hackers. Well, we've had that where
- 14:05Speaker 2: the TSA said, look, if you're going to charge your
- 14:07Speaker 2: phone at an airport, use your own charger. But they're
- 14:09Speaker 2: also saying, the TSA that they're getting reports of people
- 14:12Speaker 2: that are connecting to the public Wi Fi and airports
- 14:15Speaker 2: are placing themselves at risk as well because it's not
- 14:17Speaker 2: as secure. And Dave had it would know all about that.
- 14:21Speaker 2: Because the TSA is saying that Look, a lot of
- 14:22Speaker 2: these people are connecting to things that aren't as secure,
- 14:25Speaker 2: and it's allowing hackers to more easily access our personal information. Now,
- 14:30Speaker 2: when you've got the hectic pace of an airport, that
- 14:32Speaker 2: can cause a lot of people to let their guard
- 14:34Speaker 2: down because look, hits the time of travel exhaustion, the
- 14:37Speaker 2: last thing you're thinking about is protect your identification. So
- 14:41Speaker 2: I think that the TSA's warning comes at a good
- 14:43Speaker 2: point as we're approaching the end of the year with
- 14:45Speaker 2: we've got a lot of people traveling because you simply
- 14:48Speaker 2: can't be too careful. And that's something that I think
- 14:51Speaker 2: we can repeat over and over and over again, because
- 14:53Speaker 2: you've got to be careful when you're dealing with, you know,
- 14:56Speaker 2: trying to protect your identification.
- 14:59Speaker 1: Right, Well, that's a warning we all need to heed.
- 15:02Speaker 1: So and I think Dave has brought that kind of
- 15:04Speaker 1: thing up before too.
- 15:05Speaker 2: So yeah, he's yawning right now because you're so boring
- 15:09Speaker 2: to him. But I like to talk about it because
- 15:11Speaker 2: it was a TSA warning and it's just reminding people
- 15:15Speaker 2: when you're at the airport, just protect yourself.
- 15:17Speaker 1: You're electronic hygiene so to speak. All right, good, I
- 15:22Speaker 1: guess some of the Tampa Airport TSA workers are happy some.
- 15:26Speaker 2: Yeah, but I think twenty one of them up till
- 15:29Speaker 2: now they got a ten thousand dollars bonus for their
- 15:32Speaker 2: their performance during the government shutdown. This is something that
- 15:36Speaker 2: was recommended by their supervisors and others and it was
- 15:40Speaker 2: a nice ten thousand dollars check and others are looking
- 15:43Speaker 2: to get the same. And it's nice because not one
- 15:46Speaker 2: time during that six week period of time did we
- 15:49Speaker 2: talk about too much the letdown of the TSA checkpoints
- 15:54Speaker 2: where you know they were miles or three mile long
- 15:57Speaker 2: screening lines. Know, most of the focus was on the
- 15:59Speaker 2: air traff controllers. The TSA did their job. I mean
- 16:03Speaker 2: they I don't know how most of us would be
- 16:06Speaker 2: if you showed up for work for six weeks and
- 16:07Speaker 2: you weren't getting paid at that time and you still
- 16:10Speaker 2: were expected to be as professional and good at what
- 16:13Speaker 2: you do as as you would do normally. I mean,
- 16:17Speaker 2: that's a lot of pressure and a lot of stress.
- 16:18Speaker 2: So the fact that they're getting rewarded, I think is
- 16:21Speaker 2: great and I think I'd love to see it more often.
- 16:23Speaker 1: Yep, I agree with you on that. Finally, wait, a
- 16:26Speaker 1: second good news from Spirit Airlines.
- 16:29Speaker 2: Yeah, they were going only three hundred and sixty five
- 16:30Speaker 2: pilots off the latest of a bunch of layoffs. They've
- 16:33Speaker 2: decided they don't need to do that. And I'm thrilled
- 16:36Speaker 2: to death to hear it, because Spirit right now is
- 16:39Speaker 2: a good airline. But they're struggling right now, and it's
- 16:42Speaker 2: going to take some time for them to regain their footing,
- 16:45Speaker 2: and they're really headed in the right direction, and I
- 16:47Speaker 2: hope that it continues because you want Spirit Airlines to
- 16:51Speaker 2: be around because all the low cost carriers that are
- 16:54Speaker 2: out there helped to keep the faverage fares down. Yes,
- 16:57Speaker 2: that's why when we get a carrier here at CBG,
- 16:59Speaker 2: if it's Frontier, Allegiance Southwest, whoever it is, we talk
- 17:02Speaker 2: about let's support them. And if it Breeze has got
- 17:06Speaker 2: a great fare to the West coast. And you're thinking, well,
- 17:08Speaker 2: I'm a Delta freaking flyer. They matching the fair I'll
- 17:11Speaker 2: fly Delta. Okay, you do that, but then in six
- 17:14Speaker 2: months when an airline says, you know, we're not getting
- 17:16Speaker 2: the loads we thought we're gonna leave, please don't email
- 17:18Speaker 2: me because I'll remind you that it's up to us. Well,
- 17:22Speaker 2: that happened with air Tran. Air Tran came in in
- 17:24Speaker 2: nineteen ninety five in February trying to compete with Delta
- 17:27Speaker 2: Airlines with forty nine dollars fares from Cincinnati to Orlando,
- 17:31Speaker 2: please forty nine bucks. The problem was Delta matched the fares,
- 17:36Speaker 2: So are you gonna fly Delta or an air Tran
- 17:38Speaker 2: which maybe you hadn't heard, you know, you didn't know
- 17:40Speaker 2: who they were. They were spent off of Northwest Massaba Airlines,
- 17:44Speaker 2: so it was a great airline. But the problem was
- 17:47Speaker 2: everybody flew Delta, so air Tran ran practically empty flights
- 17:51Speaker 2: back and forth to Orlando for a year and a
- 17:53Speaker 2: half before they said enough. And the minute they left,
- 17:56Speaker 2: people started complaining about where an air Tran go. Excuse me,
- 18:00Speaker 2: I mean, I'll me where they went. They left because
- 18:02Speaker 2: of us. But look, the community has done such a
- 18:06Speaker 2: great job because when Frontier came here with their one
- 18:08Speaker 2: flight of day to Denver, bringing it from the Dayton Airport,
- 18:11Speaker 2: I was pleading, please, this is our opportunity to support
- 18:15Speaker 2: because it took a lot of work to get Frontier
- 18:17Speaker 2: to come here. This is a place where on where
- 18:19Speaker 2: you had low cost carriers came to die. You never
- 18:22Speaker 2: bought a low cost carrier in here. Frontier came in here,
- 18:24Speaker 2: started having success. Here comes Allegian all of a sudden,
- 18:27Speaker 2: Southwest uproots their entire daton operation, brings them down here.
- 18:30Speaker 2: You've got great things happening. Why because the community is
- 18:33Speaker 2: supporting the low cost carriers. I'm preaching to the choir
- 18:36Speaker 2: because we've done a great job. But when I'm on
- 18:38Speaker 2: when I'm on the air around the country, I tell
- 18:40Speaker 2: them to do what's what's happening right here at Cincinnati
- 18:42Speaker 2: because we've we've got the model and the community as
- 18:45Speaker 2: an incredible service.
- 18:47Speaker 1: Yeah, it's demonstrabs, demonstrable success. We were the highest airport
- 18:50Speaker 1: in the country in terms of the cost of airfare.
- 18:52Speaker 1: People used to drive the Dayton to get a cheaper
- 18:54Speaker 1: flight and then lay over to Cincinnati on the way
- 18:56Speaker 1: to wherever they were going.
- 18:57Speaker 2: They would go anywhere. Well, now Dayton's a ghost town. Yeah,
- 19:00Speaker 2: and you come down here and look at the license
- 19:02Speaker 2: plates in the barking lot. They're from all over the
- 19:04Speaker 2: Tri state area because they're coming here. Look when you
- 19:06Speaker 2: can jump on a flight to go to Vegas for
- 19:10Speaker 2: you know, one hundred and eighteen Bucks round trip or
- 19:12Speaker 2: Orlando for ninety nine dollars on trip, but during certain
- 19:14Speaker 2: times of the year you factor in inflation. It's cheaper
- 19:18Speaker 2: to fly now than it ever has been in the
- 19:19Speaker 2: history of aviation, only made possible by low cost carriers.
- 19:23Speaker 1: Support your low cost carrier. Keith from Iowa says hello,
- 19:26Speaker 1: he loves you, and Eric wants to know if you
- 19:28Speaker 1: have your own podcast.
- 19:30Speaker 2: I do not. I've been asked, ive been encouraged, in fact,
- 19:32Speaker 2: by several of our producers to do so. Sleep is
- 19:35Speaker 2: already an interruption of my day. Do you think I'm
- 19:37Speaker 2: gonna have time for a podcast?
- 19:39Speaker 3: Listen, you're making fat bank in the market. You don't
- 19:42Speaker 3: need that job day. I understand completely.
- 19:45Speaker 2: Can I can I give you the amount that I
- 19:47Speaker 2: made in the time we've been talking, go ahead, six
- 19:51Speaker 2: eighty one dollars and twenty one pos.
- 19:52Speaker 3: I've been talking to him since eight thirty this morning.
- 19:55Speaker 2: I sent I sent, I sent you screenshot because I
- 19:57Speaker 2: want you to know that we've got a few other
- 19:59Speaker 2: stocks at my ste ns and I are looking at
- 20:00Speaker 2: as well. Hopefully they when they make their gains, they leave.
- 20:03Speaker 2: I come. Just protect your portfolio, Just go enjoy the
- 20:06Speaker 2: rest say opening bells, not for what thirty four.
- 20:08Speaker 3: Minutes or so.
- 20:09Speaker 1: Wow, athlete named day trade Fun. That's where you find
- 20:11Speaker 1: Jay and the little plugs. A little plug for you.
- 20:14Speaker 3: Jay.
- 20:14Speaker 1: All right, well, hub delays. I guess I gotta worry
- 20:17Speaker 1: about real quick just at a real quick time.
- 20:19Speaker 2: Nothing nothing, With apologies to Bismarck, North Dakota. We're in
- 20:23Speaker 2: good shape.
- 20:24Speaker 1: Wonderful news, Jay rightlift, love you man, appreciate you being
- 20:26Speaker 1: on the program. We'll talking in next Thursday. Best of
- 20:28Speaker 1: health and love to you and your better half. Man
- 20:32Speaker 1: eight fifty six. You didn't get a chance to lo