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I Share Classic NASCAR Stories! · Kenny Wallace Media

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There it is. Kenny Wallace.
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We are live right now on YouTube.
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Charlie Marlow, Kenny Wallace. What are we calling this, The
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Kenny Wallace Show? Kenny Wallace Live, What is
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this? I think we'll steal Kenny
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Wallace Live from our buddy Chris Blair over at the
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Worldwide Technology Raceway. He said when, when, You know,
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when I would go to all the other tracks, say like a Bristol or
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Charlotte, We were going to call it NASCAR race day.
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Right. And they said, no, we can't use
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that because Fox still has it. Chris Blair, who is the general
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manager over here at the NASCAR tracks, he goes, well, we're
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going to have a show, we're going to call it Kenny Wallace
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Alive. So, so when we do the pre race
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show before the NASCAR race here in Saint Louis, it's Kenny
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Wallace live. But then when we do the other
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ones, you know, the other 889 tracks, it's it's trackside
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live. So I think we'll go with Kenny
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Wallace live. I haven't gone live.
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Got the last time I went live was on Facebook maybe 3-4 years
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ago. Yeah.
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I feel like when we just started this channel, you had just done
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a Facebook live that you did once per year.
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So we have already 130 people viewing right now, Kenny, and
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we're getting some questions. So get your questions in for
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Kenny. And also said he wants to be
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roughed up. He wants the drama, he wants the
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controversy. But this first one, the first
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one I'm seeing, not very controversial, but it's a good
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one to start with. Kenny, it's just when was your
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first win? So I don't know if that means
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NASCAR, you can kind of take it any direction you'd like.
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When was your first win? Yeah, thank you.
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That's a nice question. My very first win was 1983
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Illinois St. Stocks state championship.
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It was on the Springfield, IL fairgrounds, the mild dirt.
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And yeah, it was a big win. So in 1983, I win.
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I I I I race a Ramos Stott. Was a great Iowa racer, won the
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race. It was a big win.
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And listen, I had a strange start.
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Rusty and Mike really wanted me to stay with them because you
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know, I was a mechanic fabricator.
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So that was my very first win. Now I'm going to add this, I
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raced in 1983, one on the milder and never raced again till 1986.
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So and and then let me go a little further.
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My very first NASCAR win. Believe it or not, was it
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Volusia when it was asphalt? So.
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So yeah, there you go. And that question was from Sam's
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NASCAR channel. How about this next one?
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This is, I don't know if it's controversial.
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I don't know how you'll maybe tiptoe around this one.
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It's from Ronnie Pollard. Hey, Kenny, what was your
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favorite manufacturer and who was your worst?
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Well, you know, I'm sorry that I don't like that light shining.
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I want to take that off. My my favorite was Chevrolet
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because there was a real nice lady there and her name was ABBA
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and she ran it all. And boy, Chevrolet was good to
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me. Man, they were just really good
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to me at that time. Now we're we're this is a little
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bit of a, it's not a long story, But then along came Toyota and
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Toyota was being run by Ed Laucas.
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Ed Laucas was in charge of Motorsports and he wanted to
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meet with me at Richmond and he met with me and he said, Kenny
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Wallace, do you know why we'd like to work with you?
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Now this is Toyota. I said, I don't, Ed.
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He said I was watching you behind the grandstands at the
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Bristol Motor Speed when you were putting on a really good
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show. And I said, Ed, if I'd have
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known you was there, I would, I'd have never had funny eyes.
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I was being Kenny, putting on a show.
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But yeah, so it's Toyota #1 because Toyota was so good to
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me. I was with him for seven years.
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I learned a lot. I was able to go down Blue
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Mound, Mississippi, and watch where they built the Corolla,
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you know, and watch everybody go to work.
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They love it. They're great environment.
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And and then Chevrolet B #2 and is my worst one.
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Man, that I mean, I'm. Honest when I say this there was
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no worse but if you want me to if you want me to you know buy
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1234 number one was Toyota 2 Chevrolet three was Ford four
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was Pontiac 111. Most of my Xfinity races that
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that TIC, that red dog Ford. So Ford had, they had me a fast
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race car. So, yeah.
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Nice. All right, get your questions
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in. We already have 229 people
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watching right now, everybody. And again, Kenny wants the
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drama, he wants the controversy. But these are some good
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appetizer questions that we're starting with here.
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Let me say this, Charlie. Yeah, go ahead.
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I, I just want to say that I appreciate everybody being good
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to me. What what I'm really promoting
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is don't be afraid, you know, say what you got to get off your
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chest. And I'm a big boy.
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That's what I meant by that. So, OK, go ahead now.
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All right, here we go. It's on the screen.
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It is from Dragon Slayer, he says.
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Kenny, what was your favorite track?
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High dragon Slayer it it has to be Richmond man.
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We won three there three Xfinity races, 19949596 Martinsville.
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We got 22 clocks, two grandfather clocks and just love
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Bristol. I think you know, I think I've
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said this a lot. You know if I'm going to go
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back. I'm going to go to these tracks.
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Bristol just got so much, especially that night race.
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Man, you just. You just feel it.
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But yeah, Richmond was my very best track.
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I enjoyed it. You know, Martinsville for the
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clock, two clocks. We won there twice.
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But Bristol for the atmosphere, man, Bristol is just so awesome.
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OK, so Bill South now. We talked about this a little
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bit the other day, Kenny on our Kenny and Charlie top two, it
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was about Spire Motorsports. So this question from Bill, will
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Kyle Busch go in the seven car? Well, listen, I, I, I read, I
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read people, people have taken and created articles off of our
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take Charlie because we, we did, we did Kenny and Charlie top two
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about 3 days ago. And, you know, part of it was,
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you know. Spire is going to be big.
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Here's what I'm saying. You don't hire Rodney Childers
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just to hire him. Rodney Childers is going to go
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somewhere where they promised him something.
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Now listen, I haven't talked to Rodney, but you just don't get
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somebody of Rodney's caliber. So they had to pay him a lot of
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money and he he had to ask for something.
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I'm thinking Rodney Childers is going to have a say so and who
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the driver is going to be. You know, I do believe that
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contracts. Are meant to be broken.
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I do believe they can be bought out.
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I really don't know who's going to go over there to Spire.
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I mean it. If I'm to believe people I'm so
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far, here's what I'll say. I'll end it like this.
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It would be shocking news if Kyle Busch went to Spire.
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Just because I know Richard Childress is a gamer, he ain't
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going to let nobody walk all over him.
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Richard Chillers is not going to go.
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Oh, you want to leave? Goodbye.
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I don't think he's going to do it.
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I think Richard knows that his cars need work and he's got the
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driver to win. So Richard Chillers has got to
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go to work. That's what I have to say.
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That's controversial. Richard Chillers has got to go
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to work. So it's just going to depend how
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much patience Kyle Busch has. So then I'll follow up with my
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own. What do you think will happen
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with Kyle Busch after 2025? Do you think he could then move
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to Spire or somewhere else? Or do you think RCR can actually
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figure it out over the next rest of this season and next season
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to get him to stay? Man, Kyle's got to do something.
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And I know Richard knows he's got to do something.
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And, and I know that Austin Dillon, who drives the three, I
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know that he's family there and, and I know he wants the team to
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run good because that's their future.
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I really, you know, I've been watching Kyle Busch on
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Instagram, on his wife, Sam's Samantha.
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They're over there in Italy having a good time.
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And I just, I just, I know that Kyle's been a little calmer this
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year. You know, maybe on the radio has
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been MF and you know, people, but I think Kyle's, I think Kyle
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is in purgatory right now. He's in between heaven and hell
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there. What I mean is heaven, meaning
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there's probably people that want in good cars, but hell,
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it's like I got this damn contract here and I got to
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fulfill it. And if I don't, you know, they'd
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probably go after him legally. So I just think that Kyle's in
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purgatory right now. That's just my opinion, You
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know, I don't have a clue who's going to drive that car, but
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it's going to be a good driver. You know, I really think it's
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going to be a good driver. You know, everybody thought that
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wherever Rodney went that, you know, Josh Berry was going to
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go, but Josh is now going to the 21, Josh Berry's going to Wood
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Brothers and Harrison Burton's out.
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You know, so it's going to be interesting.
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I'm just saying that that Spire group, they got a lot of money
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and, and we'll just go over it real quick.
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They own three Cup teams, 3 truck teams, 3 hockey teams.
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They spent $40 million on a charter.
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They're they're that Raja Carruth who you know, and and
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that's all that's all Rick Hendrick money given to, you
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know, Spire. That Spire group got a lot of
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money, buddy. They're a big player and a good
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birdie Told me they asked me to come to work for him and this
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person was super big in the sport and I'm like, damn.
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So Spire asking somebody big time to come to work for him.
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You know, that tells me they they got some money.
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Very interesting. All right, this seems more like
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a general question. It is from Alex Kenny Wallace.
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On a scale of one to 10, how open to new ideas would you say
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you are? Are you very stuck in your ways,
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Kenny, or what? No, I'm not stuck in my ways
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what whatsoever, But I'm not progressive politically, I'm not
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here. Here's what I believe.
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I believe. Now this could be controversial
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in the media or what the media is watching.
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This right now. And if they're not watching it,
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they'll rewatch it. Here's what I believe.
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Now, this is my belief. This is not a big deal.
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I believe that America has a good set of rules, right?
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And America's Got it going on. They got a good set of rules,
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and these rules that work so good that people from all over
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the world want to come to America.
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So I believe in great ideas, but don't mess up a good thing
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because we've watched countries. We've watched them, you know,
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like what's happening over there in Venezuela, They said we're,
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you know, we're, you know, Chavez.
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Well, they've had enough of that, you know.
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So all I know is people are lined up to get here.
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Don't mess up a good thing. Now you know it it it.
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Do do I like new things? I love new things, but but they
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they got to make sense and and I'm not the person that is hard
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headed just because you know what I mean.
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So yeah, I like that. That's a great question.
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Thank you very much. OK, this is this is a good one I
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think. I don't know if I've ever heard
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you answer this. Maybe maybe I you didn't.
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I missed it. Dragon Slayer is back.
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What driver pissed you off the most?
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Driver pissed me off the most. What driver pissed me off the
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most? Man, it's pretty bad when I
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don't know what driver pissed me off the most.
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I would say there's not one NASCAR driver that pissed me off
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the most. However, I will say this.
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It pissed me off when I moved back to Saint Louis.
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To race against my people. And they fucking hated me
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because I was a NASCAR driver. And here I thought I was coming
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home to be with my friends. And hell, I was even sponsoring
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people, giving people tires. I was paying it forward.
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And now they're they're not like that much anymore.
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My local people now are good to me.
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But I had to prove it to him. Now I I go to these race tracks
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by myself. I drive in like an old man in my
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truck and they all look at me. There's Kenny Wallace and I get
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out and I unload my race car by myself and I win and I go to
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Victor Lane by myself. It is a little sad because
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people like man, maybe we shouldn't have roughed him up
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that much. But I'd say that that pissed me
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off the most is when I come back, I came back home and my
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people were mean to me. They, they didn't like it.
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Then I made it. They didn't like it.
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They wanted me to be poor with them and I just couldn't get
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over that. It was just shocking.
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So but, but now it's a lot better because I had to prove to
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them I do it all myself. There's a generation gap,
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Charlie, where, you know, they just, they were, they're like 15
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years old then they're 18 years old.
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They turn the TV on there. I was on TV.
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I'm like, oh. No, no, no.
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There's way more to this. And, you know, most people know
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me just being on TV, they didn't know how brutal it was to get
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there. So, yeah, So it wasn't.
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There really is never one driver pissed me off.
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All right, This is from Richard Hall.
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Hey Kenny, Is Arca dying? I don't NASCAR owns ARCA, I
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don't think they're going to let them die.
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I I do see that sometimes when ARCA would go to Salem car count
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be really down, something like that.
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For some reason, NASCAR likes ARCA Schrader loved ARCA just
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loved it. You know, it's kind of like when
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we watched the world of outlaw Sprint cars and then there was,
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you know, lesser Sprint car series.
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You know, there's a theory that there just.
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Can't be NASCAR and, and stay with me here now, a NASCAR race
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car is a very unique car. It's a very heavy boxy car and
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it stands on its own. So you got NASCAR and and then
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you got the Xfinity series, then you got ARCA.
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All all of these divisions are very heavy, boxy cars, not
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innovative. You know, you want to get
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innovative, you got to go down to ASA or you know, the CRA
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series, which was sponsored by Jags, you know, those are rack
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and pinion coil over things like that.
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But is Arcadine, I would say it's not, it's not as healthy as
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it needs to be. It could be better.
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But ARC is where Venturini, you know, Wendy Venturini's dad,
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Bill, it's where he's made his living because because Toyota
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has been supporting Venturini and they've been.
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Putting drivers through that deal that Tony Breideninger's
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there. And listen, Corey Day, the great
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Corey Day, who you know who Kyle Larson has been bragging on.
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Corey Day went to Salem OR Winchester, spun out running for
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2nd. And I think we need ARCA because
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ARCA goes to the big tracks. See what I mean?
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ARCA goes to the bigger tracks. And so I think we need ARCA to
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let Corey Day and these other drivers get a chance in these
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big cars. OK, this is from Matthew
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Hagedorn, if I pronounce that correctly.
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Kenny, do you have any wins against Rusty in the early years
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on the local tracks? Great question.
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So I'm 60 years old, my brother M60 four and Rusty 67.
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Seven years difference between me and Rusty.
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I love my brothers Rusty and Mike equally, but Rusty was the
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one. I was, you know, helping Rusty
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all the time because we were traveling and it was exciting.
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My brother Mike was helping my Uncle Gary run OK vacuum and
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janitorial supplies. My brother Mike was a money.
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Man, he was a businessman, so Mike stayed at home.
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And ran dirt well. Hell, I went with Rusty because
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it was fun. We were running.
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U Sax stock cars against AJ Foyd at Milwaukee to coin
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Springfield. So I just spent.
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I caught myself early in my career just helping rusty.
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That's why I didn't start till I didn't start racing till I was
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like, Oh my God, what 22? I didn't start racing till I was
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22 because I was, I was, you know, a late bloomer.
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I just was always helping rusty. It was rusty.
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So so then I started, I was, this is the long story, but I'm
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not going to say it. I started racing ASA 1986, 8788
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and that's a whole another story.
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I got there, but then Rusty calls me November of 88, says
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Herman, I'm going to help you because you help me.
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It was Rusty that started my Bush Grant national team.
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I owe Rusty my life and my family.
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I tell him. I say you'd be good Uncle Rusty.
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So I never raced Rusty until I got into the Cup Series, Yeah.
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So all my racing, if you want to see a good race, if you want to
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see a really good barn burner between me and Rusty, go Google
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Rusty and Kenny Wallace, Martinsville.
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I'm driving the Texaco Havilland car and I'm running 4th the
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whole race. Rusty's running 5th and Benny
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Parsons says I think Kenny's trying to prove a point today.
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Hell, I wasn't proving no point. I was just driving one of the
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best cars. I was going like hell, but if
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you want to see me really going down with Rusty there, there's a
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couple of them out there, go to Martinsville.
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I'm driving the Texaco Haviland car.
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When Ernie was hurt. That's the same race that I spun
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out Dale Earnhardt Senior by accident.
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Then if you want to see me racing Rusty, go to the 1998 Bud
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Shootout. The green, white checker green
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and white in the air. I pick Rusty.
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And we go on to win. Rusty wins that.
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I run second at Daytona, the Bud Shootout.
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Those are two good ones. If you want to see me racing my
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brother, I just gave you 22 ones to go look at.
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All right, this is Sam's NASCAR channel again.
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Have you ever gotten to a fight both in NASCAR, in NASCAR or in
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any other Motorsports? So fight or a shoving match or
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anything after a race. Yeah, Ashton Lewis, I think.
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Totally misunderstanding. We're trying to make the Daytona
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500 and I come up to pushing and I get on him too hard and I
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spinning out and boy, he's pissed.
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And here I'm not one to spin him out.
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I want to hook. Up with him, but I caught him
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too quick and spun him out. Well, he was just pissed at me.
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No, I don't think it was Ashton Lewis.
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It was that, it was that. It was the guy that sat on the
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pole at some races in the Cup. Races sponsored by Hooters
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anyway. He Co cocked me from behind and
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bloodied my lip. And you know, of course the
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officials were there. It was after the race in the
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garage area. But I have I've never I got to
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tell you, you know, I'm not a tough guy, but every environment
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I've ever been in, man, they just don't let you fight.
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You know, they they don't let you fight.
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You fight, man, They, they, you know, I didn't have 50 grand.
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I couldn't, I, I was like, you know, I was never, I never had
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enough money back then, you know what I mean?
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I paid a $10,000 fine to NASCAR because they black flagged me
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out there Phoenix and I didn't listen to him.
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I wasn't going to pull in. That's a whole another story.
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But I end up writing A7. You don't see my hands shaking.
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I wrote a $7500 check out of my own account, a penalty.
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So no, I never did get into a fight.
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I think I'm the guy. I don't like fighting, but I'll
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get you. I'm dirty.
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I'm real dirty. I'll find out where you live.
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I'll crawl underneath your car. I'll drain, I'll drain your I'll
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drain your your motor oil. You know I will get you because
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I'm only I'm only this. I'm only five 11175.
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I'm a runt. So I I'm not a tough guy.
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But I will get you. In the end, I love it.
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OK, I think this is a good question here.
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Tim Childress, If you were racing today in Cup, what team
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would be your? Pick Well, right now the team
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that seems to have the most the less downfalls is Hendrick.
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So what I mean by that is you see all these teams go through
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peaks and valleys. But man, that Hendrick group,
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they just don't stay down very much that, you know, Rick
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Hendrick is a great leader. He's got a great philosophy.
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And and you, you hear all these if, if you watch the Kelly
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Earnhardt, Kenny conversation, we talked about how Rick
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Hendrick, everybody's got their name, right.
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They got a name plate. They got a name, Kenny, and I
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would be green because I'm outgoing, so that means people
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can approach me. And then other people might have
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red or blue. What I'm saying is Rick Hendrick
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is brilliant at business. Rick is hooked up really good
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with was it Merced? Who, who did, who did Kyle run
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with Kyle Larson at Indy, McLaren, McLaren.
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Thank you, Charlie. That's what I mean, Rick is a
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bit Rick. Has got a lot of car dealerships
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and so does Rodger Penske, so. Because of that, Rick has the
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less downfalls. He's always got engineering help
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and you can see that because Rick, you know, hooked up with
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McLaren and, and, you know, and, and I.
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Would say, I would say Penske probably #2 they, they have less
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downfalls. So those, those are the two
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teams I'll rate Hendrick #1 Penske #2 with.
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But it'd be, it'd be #1 be Hendrick #2 be Penske.
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Because they they always. Figure it out.
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OK, I see 33 good questions in a row here.
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How about Ashton K 5234 Kenny, what was your biggest
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controversy? What was my biggest controversy?
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I would have to say my biggest controversy was when Donald
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Trump became the president. They hated me, I mean.
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I mean, here I had all these Democrat friends.
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They were my buddies and we were just buddies, but there were
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people that hated me then. Then you know, it's funny
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because a lot of the NASCAR media, they're all Democrats and
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they're all my friends and, and they talk to me normal.
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You know, I'll never forget. I, I told one of them and they
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know who they are. I said Biden, Biden is not the
25:01
president. I said somebody else is running
25:02
the country. He goes.
25:03
Kenny we, we do work on the side.
25:06
For him, he's really running it. I said well.
25:08
You can think that, but he's not.
25:10
And we were just friends and we laughed, but boy, there was just
25:14
a group of people that. And what's funny is, as you know
25:18
me, I'm never mean, right? I'm never mean.
25:22
I just give my opinion and boy, they get mean.
25:25
I mean, they want to kill my ass.
25:27
My wife said, would you please quit talking about politics?
25:30
Somebody's going to drive up our driveway.
25:32
So is my wife. That's why I had to quit.
25:35
She was scared for me. And so that was my biggest
25:40
controversy in my life. I would say in racing, in
25:46
racing, my biggest controversy, what's?
25:52
My biggest controversy, I would say.
26:00
I don't know. Somebody tell me I I think I
26:03
just went through, you know, there there was a good old
26:05
saying I heard about a week ago. We, and I'm going to paraphrase
26:10
it. We all are going to eat dirt
26:14
every once in a while in our life.
26:16
Charlie, you're going to eat dirt.
26:17
Sure, everybody watching this, we all are going to eat dirt.
26:21
We all don't stay the greatest. So I mean, you know, listen,
26:26
I've all, I'm very lucky. I've I've gone through a lot.
26:30
I don't want I don't want any of you to go through what I've gone
26:33
through because you couldn't handle it.
26:35
I've been roughed up, you know, but I've always came out on the
26:39
good side. You know, I got fired by
26:42
Furniture Row and they end up hiring me back because I was
26:45
right. I told him I said your motors
26:47
are no good. Oh, that pissed him off.
26:50
So then they said, hey, we were wrong.
26:52
We want to let you run a car for the hell.
26:55
I ran like fifth in the twin 150 and you know the other, the
27:00
other car was Nemecheck and you know, we we made mends.
27:04
You know, Andy Petrie, he said I I need another driver.
27:09
So I said OK, and that was tough.
27:12
But I came out and Andy and Andy end up folding.
27:17
So you see what I mean? There, there was nothing ever
27:21
like, oh, you know, I just think my biggest controversy was, you
27:27
know, Donald Trump becoming president and me cheering him
27:30
on. I love it.
27:32
All right, Jeremy, Jeremy Freeman, who is the best driver
27:38
that got the boot because of funding a really good driver
27:42
that didn't have the money. Oh, that's just right away That
27:45
Matt Kenseth, Bobby Labonte, that's right away.
27:50
Those are my buddies. Elliott Sadler.
27:57
You'll watch it. You'll be it, it play.
27:59
You just got to play. You got to pay close attention.
28:02
Kenny Schrader once told me, he says, don't worry, Herman.
28:05
They'll let you know when it's over.
28:07
And and they it's not they, it's the racing gods.
28:11
I mean, you got to think about it.
28:13
Jeff Burton, Jeff Burton, Bobby Labonte, Matt Kenseth, these
28:18
guys are champions, except except Jeff Burton, but Burton
28:23
could have been a champion. So I mean, there's three, I
28:25
mean, Matt Kenseth, Matt Henson, I mean, they, you know, it's
28:31
like he's gone and and and Matt has come out several times
28:35
saying I wasn't ready to quit. But did you notice the other
28:38
There was no teams lined up, but Oh yeah, they did that.
28:41
Feel good deal like a year or two later we're going to bring
28:43
Matt back. To help out this hurt driver and
28:47
you know, it just never turned. You just you can't take look at
28:50
look at Jimmy Johnson. Look at Jimmy Johnson.
28:54
I mean, I listen. Great, unbelievable driver.
29:00
You cannot do what Jimmy's trying to do and and Jimmy's
29:03
already said it in the articles, so I'm not even giving you
29:05
opinion. If you read.
29:06
What Jimmy's saying right now, Jimmie Johnson, he's saying, I
29:10
never thought in a million years it'd be this hard.
29:13
Jimmie Johnson is driving his ever living ass off and running
29:17
34th. You know, run running 34th not.
29:21
28th and it's like. You wipe your ears like he's
29:25
running 34th. You know, it's so those are the
29:29
drivers, you know, not so much Jimmy, but those 3 right away.
29:33
Matt Kenseth. Matt Kenseth's one that shocked
29:36
me. You know, Bobby Gabani, Jeff
29:40
Burton, Elliott Sadler, they booted their ass and they're,
29:44
you know, gone. So thanks everybody here.
29:47
We got 372 people watching live. Lot of good questions.
29:52
I'm at, I'm back at 6:41 and it's already seven O 4.
29:57
So that's how many great questions we have.
29:58
I'm 20 minutes behind Kenny, but this is a good one.
30:01
Yeah. Here we go.
30:02
This is a good one. This is from Luke.
30:05
Yeah. Luke.
30:07
Did you ever have a teammate you wanted to slug in the mouth?
30:10
Yes. 11, Shane Meal. One of the loving.
30:19
One of the loving. Shane Meal had the most talent.
30:23
Shane Meal was another Jeff Gordon, another Tim Richmond,
30:26
and here's why. Shane was so good.
30:28
I studied him. He was my teammate over at
30:31
George Debedar. Now.
30:35
I loved him, but I wanted to wring his neck.
30:40
We we'd say, first of all, he was just, he was just cocky.
30:46
And we're at Nashville. Nashville, the big concrete
30:50
track and the fairgrounds. Nashville geometry track was a
30:55
good track for me. If you look, I run second like
30:57
three times in a row, always lost, like Clint Boyer.
31:01
Or you can come in here if you want.
31:04
The babies are watching me. But Clint Boyer outrun me.
31:08
Martin Truex outrun me. And so anyway, I'm telling Shane
31:12
Meal. I think it's Shane.
31:15
Yeah, the kid. And I said you're too tight.
31:19
I said you're pushing, he goes. That's just the way I like my
31:22
car, old man. Don't tell me I drive my car
31:24
while he hit the wall in the race and I'm like, there you go.
31:28
But what made him so good was he had the ability to let off the
31:32
gas at the proper. Time and and not use much
31:35
braking as Rodger Penske would say he could.
31:38
Float that car down in the corner and roll.
31:41
Keep up, roll speed in the middle and, you know, loving to
31:46
death. But everybody knows his story.
31:48
It's a cautionary tale and I don't want to repeat.
31:52
It because I don't want that to be a highlight here.
31:55
It's a bad story and I felt bad, you know, he end up loving.
32:00
He's in a wheelchair now. I love him.
32:02
I give him a hug. But he went down the back
32:04
straightaway at Terre Haute and he biked and you know he
32:09
couldn't run any other. Series.
32:10
Because they banned him but he was in USAC and.
32:15
I would have loved him if he would have just been it.
32:19
It wasn't, It wasn't. I wasn't even looking for
32:21
respect. He was just mean to me.
32:23
But in a snarky way. But Kenny Schrader was my
32:28
teammate. He was OK.
32:31
Nemechek was OK. Hey, you know what?
32:33
You know what teammate that. Apologized to me and I never
32:36
know, thought anything. It was Ward Burton when I drove
32:39
for when I drove for Bill Davis, that Stacker two cup car.
32:45
Well, it was Ward, Ward Burton like a year ago.
32:48
He goes man. Hey buddy, I.
32:50
Want to just say I was sorry I was never a good teammate to
32:53
you. I said Ward never even thought
32:54
about it. I said, you know, back then,
32:58
back then when I raced, it was all me.
33:01
You know, Rusty did not like Ryan Newman, Dale Senior did not
33:05
like Mike Skinner. It's just the way it was, you
33:07
know what I mean? So yeah, but I I wished I could
33:11
have got along. And yeah, he, he really upset
33:14
me. Shame that he was just mean.
33:18
I have to ask, though, because you said Ken Schrader was just
33:21
an OK teammate. I would think you'd say he's a
33:23
phenomenal teammate. You're such, you're such good
33:25
friends. I love Kenny.
33:29
Kenny. Kenny's got.
33:30
Kenny taught me something. If your enemies close, you know,
33:35
Kenny loves me, Kenny loves me. And, and I would, I would do
33:39
anything for Kenny Schrader and I would say that I'm saying
33:45
what, what, what? Listen, there was never any good
33:48
teammates. Let's just put it that way.
33:50
Really. Oh, no, None.
33:53
No. Is it sold that way in Formula
33:56
One? It is.
33:56
They hate each other, especially when they get team owners to
33:59
pull over and let that other driver win.
34:01
I mean, listen, there's teammates out there.
34:05
I mean, I don't see any teammates that are asshole
34:07
buddies going to dinner with each other, you know?
34:11
I mean, there's some teammates I guess that are OK.
34:13
But Kenny Schrader's, I've, I've said it, I love him to death.
34:19
But I mean, we got in each other's cars.
34:22
I, I can remember going to Indy and I can remember going to
34:26
Indianapolis Motor Speedway. My car was horrible.
34:29
And Andy's like get in Schrader's car and I got in.
34:31
It felt totally different and I loved it and I went fast.
34:35
That was nice of them. Yeah, Kenny.
34:40
I I would say now that you got me thinking Kenny was my best
34:44
teammate. Yes.
34:45
And the other ones are just people, you know?
34:49
Yeah, they were just people. OK, This is from what do we got
34:53
here? We got coils for foil.
34:57
What happened with you wrecking Bobby in the country?
34:59
Time Lemonade car. OK, OK.
35:05
I'm trying to figure out what he means by that.
35:08
I'm going to, I'm going to take a stretch.
35:12
I think you're going to be talking about years ago, 1993.
35:17
I'm in the daredevil car and early in the race, me and
35:21
somebody got together and we have what we call crush panels.
35:27
And I got carbon monoxide poisoning.
35:29
And at the end of the race, I didn't know Bobby was on my
35:32
outside. And I ran Bobby into the wall.
35:35
So it's like I did, I didn't know Bobby.
35:40
Bobby Hamilton, this is I didn't know Bobby was on my outside.
35:44
And I ran him into the wall at the end of the race.
35:47
And it was not a good race for me.
35:50
My best friend in life, Mark Martin, talk shit about me.
35:53
I got, I got it was a bad race. And then after the race, my crew
35:57
chief, Jeff Hammond asked me, he says Kenny, what's his crew
36:01
member's name? And I couldn't get his name out.
36:04
I ended up in the hospital that night in in a 100% oxygen
36:10
chamber. I had all my clothes off.
36:14
Because it was the oxygen chamber could blow up.
36:16
So they put me in an ox. I had carbon monoxide poisoning
36:20
is what happened. And but I'm a I'm like a I'm
36:26
like a rat. I'm not going to give up.
36:28
I'm not I'm not the guy going to go.
36:30
I'm pulling in just as the race went on.
36:32
I guess as I look back on, I got delirious and I'm still going,
36:37
I'm still racing. But I remember afterwards, man,
36:42
Mark Martin said in a newspaper. We're talking 1993.
36:46
How many years ago was that night?
36:48
Let me hold on, hold on 31, OK, this got this.
36:51
This question is 31 year old question.
36:54
Don't tell me people don't have memories.
36:57
So that's what happened. And Mark, now Mark's going to
37:01
come up the driveway here because we're like best friends.
37:03
Mark's going to bring the motorhome up.
37:05
Mark Martin's come with coffee with Kenny.
37:08
But I remember that Mark said Kenny Wallace was driving.
37:13
Erratic he was in the way. And I was and but it's but it's
37:18
a cautionary tale. It's a sad story.
37:20
I was, I was, I was carbon monoxide it out and didn't know
37:24
it. So that night they put me in the
37:27
ambulance, took me to the hospital and put me in this tube
37:32
and had me breathe. You know, it wasn't like one.
37:35
Of these things. It was like real oxygen, like
37:37
100. Percent.
37:38
So yeah, that's that's, I think that's what he's talking about.
37:43
OK, it says here, let's see Jeffrey Rose.
37:47
Jeffrey Rose, will you drive in the IROC if they asked you?
37:52
They have another demo race. Let let me say this and and
38:00
people get mad at me for this. My my friends, I'm a good
38:05
driver. I am a good driver, not a great
38:10
driver. They had me in SRX because I was
38:14
a good driver. I'm I'm popular, I'm
38:18
controversial, but I but I can drive.
38:22
I think IROC is the international Race of Champions.
38:27
However, I did see. What they were doing and what
38:33
they were doing was they were just bringing IROC back.
38:37
I mean some of the drivers are dead, some of are gone.
38:40
And it's a celebration it, you know, they had Mike Skinner
38:44
there. Well, he was a truck champion.
38:48
I think he was. But but yeah, I mean, I don't
38:53
know if Ray, if Ray thinks I can help in any manner, that's fine.
38:58
I talked to Ray. I talked to Ray, I think.
39:04
I think that I might if they approach me right, like, like
39:08
my, my best friend Kenny Schrader, he's never won a
39:11
championship except, you know, and Kenny's won stuff back in
39:15
the old days and Kenny's only got like two or three couplings,
39:19
but they had him there and they had Skinner there.
39:22
So I'm thinking about it, right. So who deserves to be in the
39:26
International Race of Champions? So if you're going to invite
39:30
Schrader, you're going to invite Skinner, you know, Jeff, but I
39:35
never won a championship. I get it now.
39:39
So now's your bringing up. I think I might do that.
39:41
Because it is a celebration of, of, you know, I watched all the
39:45
races. They were fantastic.
39:47
So yeah, I guess I will. I think it is fantastic and now
39:51
I just talked myself into it. I love it.
39:54
All right, here's a good one, Chris Bird says.
39:58
What's one of your favorite memories of Dick Trickle through
40:01
your years of racing that you haven't told before?
40:04
Have you told them all or do you have a Dick Trickle story left
40:07
that you can tell us? Oh, Dick was my savior because I
40:17
had a complex, you know that. You know, my, my, my dad won, my
40:23
mom won powder puffs. That's why I'm good to the
40:26
girls. That's why I brag on the girls,
40:28
because my mom was a good race car driver.
40:31
My niece, my brother Mike's daughter Chrissy was a good race
40:36
car driver. So you, you understand what's
40:39
going on here. My, my dad won, my mom won,
40:42
Rusty won. So I think the story I might
40:52
have told once, but I feel like. Needs to be told is that Dick
40:58
Trickle loved me for me. Dick Trickle chewed my brother
41:06
Rusty's ass out one time because me and Trickle were in the back
41:10
of the Rusty's airplane and Trickle said something made me
41:13
laugh or Rusty didn't like me laughing.
41:16
Rusty didn't like me laughing and he turned around shut the
41:20
quit that laughing and. Trickle got mad at him, and I
41:23
went, whoa, Trickle went. You will not talk to your
41:27
brother like that. He's happy.
41:29
I made him laugh. And and and Dick.
41:32
Was the one that said, Kenny, you be Kenny, you make you make
41:37
you make 99% of the people happy.
41:40
The 1% that don't enjoy you being happy, you know, so it's
41:45
not really a story, but let me just say this.
41:47
It was Drift. It was Dick Trickle that that
41:50
said let Kenny be Kenny, because you know, there was all these.
41:54
People trying to change me. He's too happy.
41:57
He don't want it. Well, a lot of my happiness was
42:00
like a sad clown. I wanted to win so bad that I
42:05
was like, yeah, you know, and Trickle got it and so.
42:11
The old there was a couple people that knew me good and
42:13
they'd look at people and they go look, let Kenny be Kenny, and
42:17
that's when he'll be his best. When you start trying to change
42:20
him here, make Kenny be miserable, he'll run better.
42:24
That never worked. So that's basically my Dick
42:26
trickle story. He saved my life and to this day
42:30
I'm just heartbroke over Dick committing suicide and I really
42:34
feel like Dick committed suicide because he was taking pain
42:37
medicine. And you know.
42:41
And it it with his brain, you know, Dick, Dick's pain, pain
42:47
pills, you know, from you know, he had a horrible you know that
42:51
the deal with Trickle is you know.
42:54
He fell off of a roof as a kid, broke his hip and will later in
42:59
life like 6768 years old he had hip surgery and it didn't go
43:03
good in it crazy. It created all this pain.
43:07
It was going all over the world trying to.
43:09
Get this pain fixed. He said he had a horrible
43:12
pressure, like a knife stabbing under his left tit, under his
43:17
left tit. And they went everywhere.
43:20
And so they started instead of fixing it, they prescribed him
43:23
all these drugs and all these drugs had suicidal thoughts.
43:27
So it, it, it devastated me. But that is my Dick trickle
43:31
story. That man saved my life.
43:34
As early in my life, I had a complex, you know, I had a
43:37
complex, you know, because I didn't think I was good enough.
43:42
I'd won nine Xfinity races. Hell, I was running second and
43:46
Cup races. But man, fucking people are
43:48
brutal. You know, they'll just knock.
43:52
And then and now, now I just learned I could be, I could be a
43:57
teacher. I can teach people because I've
44:00
been through so much. I've come out on the winning
44:02
side. I can teach when people get
44:04
depressed or they get down and outlet me, teach you.
44:07
Because, buddy, I have figured it out.
44:10
It's it's it's just really everything I went through.
44:13
But yeah, that's my Dick Trickle, you know, thanks for
44:16
asking that question. That was good for me.
44:18
So I got to know, though, why was Rusty so pissed?
44:21
Was it coming back from a race and he didn't run good?
44:23
Or was he always kind of like that in the plane?
44:26
I love Rusty to death. He's everything in my life.
44:29
Rusty was mad. Everybody liked me.
44:32
That was it and he knows it. Rusty won everything there was.
44:37
And he confused winning with love.
44:40
He thought if you do something good, like let's say you a
44:43
tennis player or baseball player here, it's it's like Dexter
44:47
Flowers. You know, I, I followed Dexter
44:50
Fowler's wife on Instagram about four years ago, he says.
44:54
She says, my wife is so upset. My husband Dexter is so obsessed
44:58
with his batting average. It's like OK bud, just 'cause
45:02
you can. Hit a ball don't mean you can
45:04
solve World Peace. You know what I mean?
45:07
So there are drivers out there that have won everything.
45:12
Hey, listen, I've had two great drivers.
45:15
I mean, good that we're going to kill themselves.
45:18
And they called me and I pulled over on the side.
45:20
I'll tell you who they are when we get off the air.
45:23
But I mean, and I, I, I couldn't believe it.
45:27
I pulled over the side of the road.
45:28
You know, these are guys that are way better than me.
45:31
And I'm thinking holy. Shit.
45:34
I cut off one of my fingers to do what you guys have done.
45:37
So that's another cautionary tale.
45:39
Don't confuse winning with being happy.
45:43
I mean, there's stories out here with Bjorn Borg.
45:47
There's great baseball pitchers that blew 7th inning of the
45:53
World Series and they killed themselves.
45:55
There's stories that, you know, that's the truth.
45:57
So Rusty was mad at me. Because everybody liked me and
46:06
and and. That's all there is to it.
46:08
People get pissed. Like what?
46:10
Like why do people like Kenny Wallace?
46:12
He, he never won any Cup races. I'm like, you don't get it.
46:17
Nobody can relate with all these winners.
46:19
That's a fantasy. How many Kyle Larson's?
46:22
How many Jeff? Oh, we Hey, I wished I could
46:25
have been Jeff Gordon or Kyle Larson, but Rusty's over it now.
46:30
Now me, me and Rusty are like this.
46:32
I mean, we're so close. It's unbelievable because I told
46:35
him I said, look at me, I made Russ, I said, look at me.
46:39
I said, you're better than me. You're really good now that's
46:43
it. Can we can we go on and and and
46:47
just calm to everybody right down and, and so.
46:51
To this day there are people that have AI was at I was at A
46:56
at peebling. There was this guy that drops
46:57
off sandwiches all the time and he's always button in Victory
47:00
Lane pictures it the locals. Will know who it is.
47:04
It's got this like hat on and he gives sandwiches out.
47:07
He looked at me a month ago and he goes.
47:11
You sure are famous for not winning any cup races.
47:17
Think about that. It bothered him that bad.
47:21
I didn't give a flying. Fuck, but it bothered him that
47:24
bad. What'd you say?
47:28
I tell you exactly what I said my hand on the Bible, I stopped
47:31
him, I put his hand on him and I said, look, I love you.
47:34
I said there was something bothering you and it ain't me.
47:37
I said, but what you don't know is I've won a lot.
47:40
I've won nine Xfinity races, 10 poles, three time most popular
47:45
driver. And I went on and I said, you
47:48
know, I've got 205 top 10s. I've run second Cup three times
47:53
and I. Rattled all this off and he just
47:55
stared at me and that's where Rusty comes in Rusty says
47:59
Herman, you got to remind people he says because they remember
48:03
what they want to do. So getting back to your original
48:06
question is there is just these group Larry McReynolds was mad
48:11
at me for being happy. I would say the two people that
48:14
I remember specifically mad at me for being happy was Rusty and
48:19
Larry Mack and they finally got over.
48:22
They finally got over and some some people they win, but it
48:28
still don't bring them happiness.
48:29
And that's why I told you the two drivers that told me they
48:33
were going to kill themselves. Oh fuck, these guys won
48:36
everything and I'm like, hold on, what's going on?
48:39
You know? So like I said, it's my biggest
48:43
quote. Don't.
48:45
Confuse winning with happiness. Just because you drive a car in
48:49
a circles at a high rate of speed don't mean you win.
48:52
You might win that night. That given race, but, and I got
48:57
to be honest with you, Mark Martin to tell you right now,
49:00
Mark Martin loves me because because I make him happy.
49:06
That's Nick Kaufman. Nick Kaufman is going public,
49:09
Nick Kaufman said. I don't.
49:11
I only save a pit spot for one person.
49:13
That's Kenny Wallace. Because when he parks with me,
49:16
he makes me happy. I don't, I don't Heckle Nick.
49:19
I don't ask him anything. I'm I'm hey.
49:22
I'm dead serious about my chassis.
49:24
I focus on my race car. So yeah, you know, people.
49:29
I'm, I'm a philosopher too. I enjoy life, you know, so, so
49:35
yeah. People, people, they don't know
49:38
me. A lot of me is a show.
49:40
But but you, you do know you know me, right?
49:45
Like. For sure we have fun with
49:47
controversy, so hopefully that explains to you why some people
49:53
were. They were mad at themselves.
49:55
Does that make sense? Charlie A. 100% How can that so
49:58
much be that famous? He didn't win, like me.
50:01
It's because nobody cares about you winning.
50:03
You're a Dick, right? Absolutely.
50:07
Hey, Kerber told me. Chris Kerber told me.
50:12
Who is our Russian player there? Our famous Russian player,
50:18
Teresenko Vladimir Teresenko Teresenko's a Dick, you know,
50:21
and the whole media knew it. And guy was a good hockey
50:25
player, but nobody liked him, you know?
50:28
You know? So that's the way that shit
50:31
rolls, man. You know, stuff goes South for
50:34
you real quick. Yeah.
50:37
Read that story about Bjorn Borg.
50:38
Won everything in tennis, Won everything, sold it all.
50:44
Ended up saying I made a mistake, went back, spent
50:47
millions of dollars buying his Wimbledon trophy back.
50:50
People go through bad periods. We, like I said, we we all eat
50:54
dirt. So yeah.
50:56
Crazy story, right? So Speaking of high energy
51:01
positive people, Mr. H 0661 asks a Kyle Petty story when he was
51:08
your teammate. Another one, Kyle did not like
51:12
me being his teammate. He was he.
51:14
To this day, Kyle Petty will tell you I love Kenny Wallace.
51:18
I mean here. This is how much all now all
51:23
these people have matured, OK? All these people have.
51:26
I was always grown up. They weren't.
51:28
Look here, let me read this. Kyle Petty.
51:32
This is two a month ago, 6610 Kenny, you are and always will
51:40
be the man. I can never thank you and Kim
51:45
for being part of the ride. Listen to this part.
51:49
You bring so much to every day and your smile and laugh light
51:54
up the week for so many, but always for me.
51:58
I love you man. And Kyle Petty has looked at me
52:00
and looked at me real serious. He says what me and him have in
52:03
common. What Kyle Petty and myself have
52:05
in common is he had his dad. His dad was a Dick and my
52:08
brother was mean so they were. But they how Richard Petty and
52:13
my brother could not figure out why we weren't as good as them.
52:16
So Richard could never understand why Kyle wasn't like
52:19
him and Russ, he could never figure out why I wasn't like and
52:23
I'm like, well, that's simple, you're good.
52:27
So how when I when I drove the Dirt Devil car and Kyle was in
52:31
the metal yellow car? He.
52:33
He did he. Didn't know what to think of me
52:37
and time has went on and we all look back in ourselves now.
52:43
We're like, man, I don't know why it's like that.
52:45
That's where Father John comes in.
52:48
Be careful, young man. Competition will kill you.
52:51
But yeah, you know, listen, how was never mean to me.
52:56
He just wasn't a good teammate, you know?
52:58
But that's OK because now we love each other.
53:02
Yeah. All right.
53:03
This is a little change of pace. Gigi asks, Do you have a UFO or
53:10
a Bigfoot story or do you believe in either of those
53:14
things? I have AI have a belief and I'm
53:19
very serious when I say this. I'm a realist.
53:22
In other words, I don't. Somebody said something to me
53:25
once. It made me laugh.
53:27
They said, we know wrestling's not real, but if you drink
53:30
enough beer, it becomes fun. So and, and, and also those,
53:36
those wrestlers are great athletes.
53:39
They're great athletes. They're incredible, right?
53:42
So I I admire wrestlers because they're they're selling it,
53:45
They're putting on a show and they're great athletes.
53:48
So do you see how I broke that down?
53:51
OK, it might be fake, but boy, they're putting on a hell of a
53:55
show and I can't do what they're doing.
53:57
So when I think of UFOs or Bigfoot story, OK, you know,
54:06
there there's always in the ocean.
54:09
There's always number one. I don't believe in Bigfoot, but
54:13
I do believe there's creatures in the sea.
54:15
You see it all the time. It's like, what the hell is this
54:18
fish? Some type of eel or something
54:20
like that. But I will say this about
54:24
unidentified flying objects. For us to think, OK, I'm just
54:30
going to say it this simple. What is beyond beyond?
54:36
OK, what is beyond, beyond if you could take an airplane and
54:42
just fly forever and just go, what is there?
54:50
What is there? If you don't ask yourself that.
54:56
Now, I'll say this one thing about TJ Patrick, Danica
55:01
Patrick's dad, he said. TJ said.
55:04
I told Danica. Quit asking questions that you
55:07
can't answer. It'll drive you crazy.
55:10
However, OK, you remember the Truman Capote show?
55:15
Where? At the end of the show, he just
55:19
runs into this wall it it's it's Drew, Drew Carey, I think with
55:24
the comedian and and come to find out it's this big show, but
55:28
he don't know it and he's on this.
55:30
He thinks he's in the ocean. And just hits a wall.
55:32
Oh true. The Truman Show, Truman Show
55:35
with Jim Carrey. Yeah, but but when we're when
55:37
you're. Watching that show, you're just
55:39
you, you, it's, it's it's not until the very end you go, holy
55:42
shit, that's that's not the world we live in.
55:47
So we got planet earth and and and then, like I say, you can't
55:54
listen. It's a the word affinity was
55:58
created. It's what is beyond beyond.
56:01
What a great question. Now, I don't dwell on it, but
56:05
there there's something out there and they can't get to us
56:09
either. I mean, OK, even if you said
56:13
here we are, well, what's outside of it?
56:17
Are we a golf ball? What's inside a golf ball?
56:20
Well, what's outside the golf ball?
56:22
You know what I mean? So if you're not smart enough to
56:26
think like that, then you're not open.
56:28
Minded, you know what I mean? About realism, that's that's
56:32
real shit, you know what I mean? I love it.
56:36
I don't spend time talk. Thinking about stuff like that,
56:39
but. Yeah, I mean, you do.
56:42
Yeah. OK, here's another one that's
56:45
non racing lift heavy, says Kenny.
56:48
If you didn't have all the money you have now so you don't have a
56:52
lot of financial pressure, do you think you would be the same
56:56
happy content guy? Keep killing it.
56:59
Man, that is an incredible question and.
57:03
I I do my very. Best to help.
57:07
People, because I was born very poor.
57:11
Ask anybody. I would take soda bottles, tape
57:15
them on my bicycle, run up old Lee Mayfair here to the 711.
57:19
Cash them in, get a dollar, go to A and.
57:23
W get it, get a burger. And and a small drink.
57:29
You know, I was on that Dirty Mode media show.
57:32
If you all go over and go to YouTube, you know, Dale
57:35
Earnhardt, junior interviewed me, a lengthy interview, and I
57:39
said junior. It pisses me off that.
57:41
When people think you're shot in the ass with diamonds and you're
57:44
not, and I said that to Junior, I said Junior, don't make you
57:48
mad that they think because you're Dale Junior's son, that
57:52
you're just shot in the ass with diamonds.
57:53
And he laughs. And his face is cherry red, Dale
57:56
Junior goes. Yes, yes, yes.
58:00
Because here's Dale Junior, you know, working at the dealership
58:03
and mowing grass and doing all this stuff so you can.
58:09
Hear I'll show you right now you can ask my mom or anybody I I
58:16
come out of my mom's womb. I came out happy.
58:20
I I was happy from the day I was born.
58:22
I I get it was I gifted? I, I think I was I was very
58:28
happy and I'm still very happy as a child.
58:32
I was born like this. That's me.
58:38
That's me. I hold it up there a long time
58:42
because I want you to get look, I was gifted and I'm going to
58:46
tell you why I was gifted. My mom was happy when I grew up,
58:50
my mom was happy. Look at this, I'm going to bad
58:54
ass. You're my mom and dad.
58:56
That's my mom. That's awesome.
58:58
See what I mean? I'll tell you this, I know kids
59:04
that are quiet and they won't speak.
59:06
Then when you see their parents, you figure it out like oh, they
59:10
come from a shitty life. Their mom and dad were bad.
59:14
Their mom and dad were quiet. I mean, I'm around a lot of
59:18
people that don't talk. I'm like why don't?
59:21
And it has nothing to do with a big mouth or anything like that.
59:25
You know what I mean here? Look at me.
59:28
Look. Look at me as a kid.
59:30
Look at that. I was.
59:32
So what? Hell, that's all Rebus barracks.
59:35
That's all 55 and Rebus barracks.
59:37
That's that's Rusty's wife's mom and dad's swimming pool.
59:42
Dude, we didn't have nothing but my here's my here's my answer to
59:46
you. Lift heavy.
59:49
I was lucky in life because I was born happy.
59:54
I saw the miserable side of life and that's competition.
59:58
Competition is just God awful. It'll kill you here.
1:00:03
See, that's my mom and dad and me.
1:00:06
After the races, they would give trophies out.
1:00:09
They didn't do it right away. They waited for the races to be
1:00:12
over. Do you see what I'm saying?
1:00:14
I was Born This Way. I can't help it.
1:00:17
I didn't become happy. I was born happy because my
1:00:21
mom's awesome. My mom's happy.
1:00:24
My mom took me everywhere. We went to South County shopping
1:00:28
mall in the days when the malls were just awesome.
1:00:31
I don't got nothing to do. Let's go to the mall.
1:00:33
All right, So I think I think I've shown you enough pictures
1:00:38
to try to show you. And I tell you, like I said, I
1:00:43
never became happy. I was just always happy.
1:00:48
And I've taken, I've taken an ash chewing for it, Charlie.
1:00:53
I've had people say to me, well, hell, when we wrote our book
1:00:57
Inside Herman's World, Lou Boyd, who who owns Coastal 181, he
1:01:02
says, what's the deal with Kenny Wallace?
1:01:04
He can't be that happy. He was serious.
1:01:06
Like, real. Seriously, what's the deal with
1:01:08
Wallace? Too happy.
1:01:09
I was like, Oh my God, this guy hates me.
1:01:13
Here's my mom powder puff racing.
1:01:17
See that? That's my mom.
1:01:23
You know, a lot of people work for happiness.
1:01:25
They work for it. And I'm not, I'm not going to
1:01:30
apologize for being happy. All I'm going to say is I was
1:01:34
lucky in life. They have a good Mama.
1:01:39
My dad made me tweak because he had to work so hard.
1:01:43
But my mom grew up in Baltimore and she's.
1:01:45
Just a complete badass. She'll fight it.
1:01:49
I mean, she will fight right now.
1:01:51
She won't win the fight, but she'll fight.
1:01:54
Here's Mark Martin and look here, here's Rusty.
1:01:58
Look at this. You see that?
1:02:01
This is what going on behind the scenes.
1:02:02
Everybody see that? See Rusty wanted in the picture.
1:02:13
I'm going. I love my brother to death.
1:02:16
See that Rusty's, like I said, Rusty, I'm going to come out
1:02:20
there Wednesday and leave Friday.
1:02:22
He chewed my ass out. You are not staying that short
1:02:24
period of time. Said OK, I'll stay out there a
1:02:27
long time. So I'm going out to Sturgis
1:02:29
Tuesday and coming back Saturday.
1:02:31
So I'm not bragging. You asked me a question.
1:02:35
Lift heavy. I was Born This Way because I'd
1:02:39
had I had a good Mama. It really is all my.
1:02:41
It really is my mom. I love my listen.
1:02:44
I forgive my dad. My dad was rough to me.
1:02:47
But I forgive him. My dad was the type.
1:02:50
Why? How come I'm like, Jesus, dad,
1:02:54
you know, I said why you asked me that?
1:02:56
He says, well, I'm I'm at the I'm at the I got brain fade.
1:03:02
What's the shit restaurants here?
1:03:04
Waffle House? Dad always went to the Waffle
1:03:07
House on Sunset Blvd. off 77 and Charlotte.
1:03:10
And if I ran second in a in a Bush race, he'd say what
1:03:14
happened? I'm like I said, Dad, I got
1:03:16
beat. No, I'm with my friends.
1:03:19
They want to know what happened. I'm like, oh, I was pushing.
1:03:21
OK. Dad wanted to know why I didn't
1:03:25
win so he could tell his buddies, oh, Herman was pushing,
1:03:29
his car was pushing or he was loose.
1:03:32
So you see, we all go through this in our childhood.
1:03:35
But so, yeah, so. And let me tell you this, I'm
1:03:42
going to get bold here. The second I see this question,
1:03:46
do you think you would be the same happy content guy if I
1:03:49
didn't have the finance? OK, if you didn't have all the
1:03:53
money, that's number one. He goes if you didn't have all
1:03:56
the money, so people go to money right away.
1:04:01
If you didn't have all that money.
1:04:03
And now let me say this, I have a lot of money, millions of I've
1:04:06
got millions of dollars and I don't even recognize it.
1:04:10
It's like I went to Dale Junior. I said Junior, I said.
1:04:13
Do you do you know that you are in control of NASCAR?
1:04:17
He goes, I don't feel it. Remember that, Charlie, when he
1:04:21
said that, I said, I said, Dale Junior, you're the most powerful
1:04:25
man in NASCAR. Do you know that?
1:04:28
He goes, I don't, I don't feel it, I don't know it.
1:04:31
So he said, he holds the key. I said you hold the key to
1:04:34
NASCAR. Do you know you you control the
1:04:36
whole sport. He goes, I don't know it so, so
1:04:39
lift heavy. That's the same way with me.
1:04:41
I got millions and millions of. Dollars and don't don't it it
1:04:47
money's weird. Once you get it, then it's like
1:04:52
I grew up never caring about money.
1:04:54
All I wanted to do is what I wanted to do.
1:04:56
Do you see what I'm saying? So I, I never, I never grew up
1:05:02
as a kid going, oh, if I had money, you know, I mean, I ran
1:05:06
the creeks, found little water minnows.
1:05:09
I had ABB gun, rode my bicycle, went racing with mom and dad.
1:05:15
I never grew up worshipping money.
1:05:18
It's just you just went. And now that I've got money,
1:05:21
well, first of all, I'm going to be 61 years old.
1:05:24
Took me a long time to. Get here.
1:05:27
Took me a long time to acquire all this money.
1:05:29
I wasn't born, I wasn't shot in the ass with diamonds.
1:05:33
I worked my balls off. So here I am finally and I got a
1:05:37
lot of money. But no, money did not make me
1:05:42
happy. I was born happy, all right?
1:05:45
I feel good about that. I love that.
1:05:47
Well, now I feel bad because I'm going to go the opposite way
1:05:50
because you, you asked people to rough you up.
1:05:52
This guy, this guy Brad Brown, he thinks, he thinks I'm ducking
1:05:56
the question. He's asked like 10 different
1:05:58
times. So basically he's, I'd love to
1:05:59
answer. He's, he's mad about you
1:06:02
boycotting the Olympics. He's asked at five or six
1:06:06
different ways here. OK, Brad, I'll answer you.
1:06:10
First of all #1 Brad, remember I told you earlier that I've got a
1:06:17
lot of Democratic friends. I can tell right now you're a
1:06:20
Democrat, right? Because that's just the way it
1:06:22
is. I don't care.
1:06:24
I still love you. I still love you, Brad.
1:06:28
Even though you're a Democrat and even if you're going to lie
1:06:30
to me and you're going to go, no, I'm not a Democrat, I know
1:06:33
you are, OK? I'm not being a little bitch and
1:06:37
I've done 2 takes on this, why? And I'm going to go in depth
1:06:41
now, OK, I believe that, Brad, if you're an atheist and you
1:06:49
don't believe in God, let's say I don't believe in God, it's
1:06:54
still a good way to live. If you choose a religion, it's
1:06:58
like, you know, if there's if you got a drug addict, he's
1:07:03
always doing drugs. You got an alcohol guy and he's
1:07:06
always alcohol. People get lost in life.
1:07:10
I want to ask Father John. I said what?
1:07:12
I said, is God mad? He goes, why is why do you say
1:07:15
that? I said because there's
1:07:16
Catholics, there's Pentecostal, there's Baptist, and they all
1:07:20
got a different story about God. He says it's up to you to find
1:07:23
your faith. Now, if you don't want to
1:07:26
believe in God, I don't care. I I'm not going to call you a
1:07:29
little bitch, but I'm just going to say that if you the Catholic
1:07:35
religion, I'm a Lutheran, I think it's a good way to live.
1:07:38
It's all I'm saying. I don't preach it to nobody.
1:07:42
Now you're not going to convince me in a million years I'm
1:07:45
watching TV and I'm like, what in the hell?
1:07:48
The guy's Dick was hanging out. Brad, if you zoom.
1:07:51
In on it, his balls were. Hanging out.
1:07:53
OK. All right.
1:07:56
You saw it? Yeah.
1:07:57
Because Charlie knows it's true. So I didn't see that picture.
1:08:01
Yeah. I'm like, what the Hell's going
1:08:03
on here? I don't like that type of
1:08:05
lifestyle. OK.
1:08:08
I Brad, hold on. I'm still going with you one
1:08:11
second. We'll show you something, buddy.
1:08:14
You see this? That's my daughter and
1:08:17
grandbaby. What would you think if I let
1:08:20
that guy with his Dick hanging out go in front of my kids, huh?
1:08:25
They're happily married. My daughter went hard to be a
1:08:29
true Roman Catholic, but not Roman Catholic.
1:08:32
But she did all the schooling. And I said to myself, I don't
1:08:37
like what they did. And and and a lot of you, not
1:08:40
you, but a lot of people are full of shit, trying to act like
1:08:43
it was some type of Roman Greek thing.
1:08:45
It's all bullshit. And even the guy's Dick hanging
1:08:48
out, the balls hanging out. OK, let's let's say it wasn't.
1:08:52
I don't like his balls hanging out.
1:08:54
OK, So I said, and I said it real nice.
1:08:58
I said I'm not going to watch the Olympics and I haven't
1:09:00
watched the Olympics, OK? Because everything they did was
1:09:06
an innuendo progressive. Whoa, all that stupid shit that
1:09:11
they're all bringing up trying to ruin what America stands for.
1:09:14
You know, America's original rules were just great, and they
1:09:17
trying to fuck it all up. And I think that's stupid.
1:09:21
All right, all right, now, I just told you, OK, The Dick was
1:09:27
a game changer for you, wasn't it?
1:09:29
OK, now, now. OK, here we are.
1:09:33
OK. World Boxing said that she was
1:09:38
illegal because of elevated testarone.
1:09:41
The Olympics have allowed that girl in IOC.
1:09:47
OK IOC which is the Olympics is allowing them to fight because
1:09:52
her her passport says she's a woman.
1:09:56
I did my studying. I see them dumb son of the
1:09:58
bitches on X. You better do your study and
1:10:01
then they bring some fake thing in.
1:10:03
What I did was I listened to the world's greatest boxer.
1:10:07
If they Oscar De La Hoya, he just did a neat little pit piece
1:10:11
on it. Brad, because of all these
1:10:14
reasons, I said I'm just not going to watch the Olympics.
1:10:16
So I did a little. You know, coffee with Kenny
1:10:18
about it and that's it. So.
1:10:27
But let me say something to you, Brad, OK?
1:10:31
You said don't be scared to respond.
1:10:33
Your bully BOYE, they're reading all these comments.
1:10:38
To boycott the Olympics is just being a little bitch.
1:10:41
No, you're a fucking bitch because you're allowing this
1:10:44
shit to happen. So you see how it works.
1:10:47
You called me a bitch and I call you a bitch.
1:10:49
I don't want to fight you, see. You cussed at me.
1:10:53
See, I'm a badass too, you know, and I won't fight you, but I'll
1:10:58
drain the oil out of your car at night while you're sleeping.
1:11:01
See how that works? Now I told you all my reasons.
1:11:05
Now you got to be my friend Brad and say, OK, I get it Herman,
1:11:10
because I'm, I'm a dad. I got 3 three daughters and and,
1:11:15
and I pray to God it it puts me at peace.
1:11:19
Dear Lord, please forgive me my sins.
1:11:21
Keep me safe tonight. Amen.
1:11:23
Makes me feel good. Now, did you notice that?
1:11:30
I don't. I don't scream and I don't call
1:11:31
it. I don't cuss people out.
1:11:34
It's only the people that don't agree.
1:11:37
All right, Charlie, I think we helped old Brad out there.
1:11:40
That was fun. I'll tell you what, yeah, that
1:11:42
was good. It was good.
1:11:43
Yeah. No, I was going to say, I don't
1:11:46
know if I want to end on that one, but I feel like we've gone
1:11:48
almost 75 minutes. We've got a ton of questions.
1:11:54
What what time do we start? We started at about 635.
1:12:00
We've we've gone live for basically an hour and 14
1:12:04
minutes. So do you want to end or do you
1:12:08
want to go an hour 30? I mean, we can end right now be
1:12:10
fine. And we'll do we'll do these
1:12:12
every once in a while. They seem to be a hit.
1:12:14
Yeah, I think, I think we're good to just shut her down and
1:12:17
and we could try to do one, you know, every every week or so or
1:12:21
not, not every week, but I mean, it's pretty easy to jump on and
1:12:23
there's always a million questions.
1:12:26
There was a lot of other ones too that I kind of skipped over,
1:12:29
but there are a lot of good questions.
1:12:32
I feel like hopefully somebody will clip that part that I just
1:12:35
did and it make make national news.
1:12:38
Oh, I will. Hey, come on now.
1:12:42
Do that for me. Will you clip that part and put
1:12:44
it on? Put it on YouTube for sure.
1:12:47
Just the Olympics part. Yeah, because I was proud of
1:12:50
that. Did you see?
1:12:51
I was lucky I brought up Oscar De La Hoyla right away.
1:12:55
I, you know, and listen, I got it from, I got it from news
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about, you know, I saw this thing going around.
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Oh, that's really a girl. I'm like, what?
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You know, everybody in the world, all these high end people
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like, you know, I started thinking of Aerosmith, Dude,
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lose that Lady. I'm like, dude, it's a dude, OK?
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His passport says he's a girl, but he's not.
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Jesus Christ, What the Hell's happened?
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This. May the Lord.
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Dear Lord, please forgive me my sins.
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All right, that was fun. Hey, listen.
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Thank you, everybody. That's what I was hoping.
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Brad, you didn't let me down. That was what I was looking for.
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I felt like I did a good job there.
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Charlie clipped that part up. Put that all over the world and
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man, they'll motherfuck me all the way to Brownstown.
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Look at Brad. You guys have you guys have made
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amends. Look at him.
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Hey, I'll still watch the show. Appreciate you responding with
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four emojis of laughing. Love you, Brad.
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Hey, I can be. I can be a motherfucker too.
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So hang on, baby. All right, there it is.
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Charlie, While we're doing, I want to thank you all.
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That is that is all of us. That is the 100,000 button.
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I want to thank you all for subscribing.
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You all are a bunch of bad asses.
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That, that is absolutely awesome.
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So thank you all so much, Charlie.
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Thank you. What a great idea you had.
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Thank you, Sir. All right.
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See everybody, we'll do it again soon.
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Take it easy.