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- 0:00Speaker 1: It's thirty eight. All bills can win. In here, Wake
- 0:02Speaker 1: puts it down. The kick is on the way and
- 0:05Speaker 1: dock m the bell good one? How the hell that one.
- 0:11Speaker 2: Home?
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- 0:17Speaker 2: Why not combat by my bell?
- 0:19Speaker 1: Jacksonville's perfect record on the line right here.
- 0:27Speaker 2: Quick.
- 0:30Speaker 1: Kicking, look excited.
- 0:31Speaker 2: Touchdown Kyle Williams touchdound amazing, unbelievable. They puttied william who's
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- 1:51Speaker 1: In this episode of Disguised Coverage, we are roughly one
- 1:56Speaker 1: month away from the start of Buffalo Bill's training camp,
- 2:00Speaker 1: and with that being said, as we start to move forward,
- 2:04Speaker 1: wanted to set the table for the rest of this
- 2:07Speaker 1: offseason conversation leading into training camp, which then leads into
- 2:11Speaker 1: the preseason, which then leads into the regular season by
- 2:14Speaker 1: addressing several position groups on this Bill's roster, on this
- 2:19Speaker 1: Bill's team, and essentially laying out the biggest or top
- 2:23Speaker 1: or most important question at each of these position groups.
- 2:27Speaker 1: Some of them we've talked about briefly throughout this offseason,
- 2:30Speaker 1: some of them we've alluded to, some we mentioned, but
- 2:33Speaker 1: there are several position groups that have significant questions amongst
- 2:37Speaker 1: this entire Buffalo Bills roster and within this Buffalo Bills team.
- 2:40Speaker 1: Some of them are positions this team has worked on
- 2:42Speaker 1: through year after year after year in the off season.
- 2:47Speaker 1: Some positions are newer ones that are kind of in
- 2:50Speaker 1: flux or suddenly under the microscope after not being so
- 2:53Speaker 1: for a long time. But either way, these position groups
- 2:57Speaker 1: that we're going to dive into tonight, I think really
- 2:59Speaker 1: headline and a lot of where the focus will be
- 3:02Speaker 1: from a training camp perspective, roster battles, depth chart battles,
- 3:06Speaker 1: who beats out who for this, who beats out who
- 3:09Speaker 1: for that, and what it means, so on and so forth.
- 3:11Speaker 1: So this episode is kind of kind of set the
- 3:13Speaker 1: table for some of the deeper detailed discussions we have
- 3:16Speaker 1: in the coming weeks leading up to training camp and
- 3:18Speaker 1: then obviously our coverage throughout training camp, throughout the preseason,
- 3:21Speaker 1: then leading into the regular season. Apologies for not having
- 3:26Speaker 1: some shows the past couple of weeks, very busy with
- 3:28Speaker 1: a lot of things going on in a positive way.
- 3:30Speaker 1: I am still trying to make up, you know, some
- 3:33Speaker 1: of the episodes that I haven't done by doing some
- 3:35Speaker 1: pre recorded stuff uploading it to the channel. As I
- 3:37Speaker 1: get time for that, they will be uploaded, published and
- 3:41Speaker 1: communicated via Twitter and Blue Sky and all those other
- 3:46Speaker 1: channels platforms. Anything and everything in this episode as we
- 3:49Speaker 1: start to dive in, any questions, thoughts, comments, concerns, philosophy's ideologies, theories, maxims,
- 3:55Speaker 1: whatever you got on you know, the topic of this episode,
- 3:58Speaker 1: or anything in general regarding the bills, whatever you got,
- 4:01Speaker 1: feel free to put it up into the chat. We
- 4:03Speaker 1: will dive into as many of those pieces as possible.
- 4:06Speaker 1: I know we are in the dol drums of the
- 4:08Speaker 1: off season, so I appreciate anyone tuning in live to
- 4:11Speaker 1: this episode joining me on this journey, and if you
- 4:14Speaker 1: want to put some questions up into the live chat
- 4:16Speaker 1: so I don't feel completely hopeless and alone, I would
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- 4:44Speaker 1: So without further ado, let us dive into it. And
- 4:49Speaker 1: I'm gonna start with a position group that I haven't
- 4:51Speaker 1: talked too much about from a holistic perspective. I'm talking
- 4:55Speaker 1: about some players within this position group. But we're gonna
- 4:59Speaker 1: lead off with cornerback for the Buffalo Bills. And this
- 5:04Speaker 1: I gain, I don't even think I had kind of
- 5:06Speaker 1: realized I had this position group in my mind already
- 5:08Speaker 1: from a training camp perspective and from a preseason perspective,
- 5:11Speaker 1: some you know, position group that I wanted to watch,
- 5:13Speaker 1: several players, I wanted to keep an eye on, several
- 5:18Speaker 1: storylines that are kind of baked into it, both on
- 5:21Speaker 1: and off the field. But Max Harston picking up an
- 5:25Speaker 1: injury in mini camp is kind of somewhat of what
- 5:28Speaker 1: thrust this position group into the forefront of my brain.
- 5:32Speaker 1: In an ideal world, and that injury is not serious.
- 5:34Speaker 1: We're not talking about Max Harston missing any time. His
- 5:37Speaker 1: season isn't in jeopardy. We're not talking about any of that.
- 5:39Speaker 1: But it just, you know, to kind of put you,
- 5:40Speaker 1: you know, a little peek into my brain of why
- 5:42Speaker 1: this position group was on the forefront of my brain
- 5:44Speaker 1: and why I want to lead off with it. In
- 5:45Speaker 1: an ideal world, Max Harriston wins the corner two job outright.
- 5:49Speaker 1: He is the starter. He is the prince that was
- 5:52Speaker 1: promised at that position. The athleticism, the juice, the closing ability,
- 5:58Speaker 1: things that the Bills really haven't had at the corner room.
- 6:03Speaker 1: I should say they try to get more athletic and
- 6:05Speaker 1: more juiced up. When they drafted Kyrieland that didn't work out,
- 6:08Speaker 1: But again in an ideal world, Max Harston wins the
- 6:13Speaker 1: corner two job outright, and if that happens again, in
- 6:16Speaker 1: an ideal world, we still have questions on the depth
- 6:19Speaker 1: chart after him, but him getting banged up kind of
- 6:22Speaker 1: put in the forefront of my mind of who steps
- 6:25Speaker 1: in as CB two if he goes down, and even
- 6:30Speaker 1: within that, what does the rest of the depth chart
- 6:33Speaker 1: look like at corner So we played out in an
- 6:35Speaker 1: ideal world, Christian Benford CB one and not just CB
- 6:39Speaker 1: one for the Bills. I think he is still on
- 6:41Speaker 1: an upper trajectory and blossoming into one of the better
- 6:45Speaker 1: corners in the league. We talked about it on the
- 6:48Speaker 1: show in the chat a couple episodes ago. I don't
- 6:51Speaker 1: know where I rank him in terms of like corners
- 6:53Speaker 1: in the league. I don't know if he's top ten
- 6:55Speaker 1: or where he funnels in, but there's a good chance
- 6:57Speaker 1: that he really could solidify himself as a top ten
- 6:59Speaker 1: corner in this league after this season. He's a real
- 7:01Speaker 1: quality player in almost every facet or box that you're
- 7:05Speaker 1: looking to tick or check at the corner position. So
- 7:07Speaker 1: you've got Benford at two I'm sorry at one, and
- 7:10Speaker 1: then you've got Hairston at two and then everything after that?
- 7:14Speaker 1: Are we looking at Tredevious? White? Is corner three? Is
- 7:17Speaker 1: Dan Jackson corner three? Does Dorian Strong make this team?
- 7:21Speaker 1: What happens to JaMarcus Ingram, who played well in the
- 7:24Speaker 1: preseason last year, who also got some in game action
- 7:27Speaker 1: and some dime packages when the Bills were banged up
- 7:29Speaker 1: at corner? He's got inside outside versatility. He's got a
- 7:32Speaker 1: physicality and an edge to him that he plays with
- 7:35Speaker 1: that isn't really present amongst the rest of the corner grouping.
- 7:38Speaker 1: The violence that he plays with this grouping I find
- 7:43Speaker 1: to be an interesting one because again, if and if
- 7:46Speaker 1: you're you know, for those of you playing at home,
- 7:48Speaker 1: whether you're watching live now, watching later, listening later, whatever
- 7:51Speaker 1: have you, I think most would agree, Okay, cool, you
- 7:54Speaker 1: trot out Benford and Harriston as you're starting corners, that's
- 7:56Speaker 1: what you want. But if what and even if it's
- 7:59Speaker 1: not Harston one of them goes down, who do you
- 8:02Speaker 1: want next? Stepping in like, who is the next guy
- 8:05Speaker 1: up for you? Is it Trey? Is it Dame Jackson?
- 8:09Speaker 1: Is it Dorian Strong? How confident are you and Dorrian
- 8:12Speaker 1: Strong being a rookie? How confident are you? And JaMarcus Ingram?
- 8:14Speaker 1: Do you want to see more of him? I just
- 8:15Speaker 1: think this is an interesting position group after Christian Benford again,
- 8:20Speaker 1: assuming Max Harrison wins this job. But essentially the question
- 8:24Speaker 1: for me for this group is who wins CB three
- 8:27Speaker 1: and CB four and overall how many corners do they keep?
- 8:31Speaker 1: I think you've got a legitimate opportunity for again Benford, Harriston, Trey,
- 8:37Speaker 1: Dane Jackson, Dorian Strong, JaMarcus Ingram. You still got Dai
- 8:40Speaker 1: Kwon Hardy floating around a bit who played well legitimately
- 8:45Speaker 1: last year in camp, in the preseason, in the scrimmage,
- 8:49Speaker 1: was cut by the Bills, but then brought back, Like
- 8:52Speaker 1: there's there's quality and from a depth perspective and within
- 8:56Speaker 1: this entire CB room. But that question of who steps in,
- 9:01Speaker 1: should Harston go down, should Christian Benford go down? I
- 9:06Speaker 1: think it's really interesting and so kind of seeing who
- 9:09Speaker 1: wins that CB three and CB four job. I think
- 9:11Speaker 1: it's enough of a question in and of itself for
- 9:13Speaker 1: this corner grouping. But more importantly, you know whoever wins
- 9:17Speaker 1: the CB three job as next man up, should anything
- 9:19Speaker 1: happen to Benford or Harrison or again not no, no,
- 9:22Speaker 1: Jink's not putting bad juju out there. Should Hairston not
- 9:25Speaker 1: perform well in camp or the preseason. Does this open
- 9:29Speaker 1: the door for the reliability and the known quantity that
- 9:34Speaker 1: we know the Bill's value at corner by and have
- 9:37Speaker 1: them say, you know what, Harston needs a more seasoning.
- 9:41Speaker 1: Let's give the reins to Trey White or Dane Jackson,
- 9:44Speaker 1: who neither are the sexiest. Trey is probably sexier than
- 9:47Speaker 1: Dane at this point, but not the all pro that
- 9:50Speaker 1: he was. But they have a known quantity there, the
- 9:53Speaker 1: responsibility there. They understand where to be and how to
- 9:57Speaker 1: get there and when to be there. Their teammates are
- 10:00Speaker 1: going to trust them to be in the right place
- 10:02Speaker 1: at the right time, and so with the coaches, I
- 10:03Speaker 1: don't think it's crazy. Then all of a sudden, you know,
- 10:06Speaker 1: one of them kind of bumps up if Harriston struggles
- 10:08Speaker 1: a little bit. So I think it's a very interesting
- 10:10Speaker 1: kind of position group to look at. Aside from the headline,
- 10:14Speaker 1: which was Max Harriston, first round pick, speed, juice, athleticism, recovery, speed,
- 10:19Speaker 1: closing ability, all of that. So yeah, I wanted to
- 10:22Speaker 1: lead off with that group because the Harston injury again
- 10:24Speaker 1: triggered it a bit for me in terms of putting
- 10:26Speaker 1: this group into the forefront and wondering what it looks
- 10:28Speaker 1: like holistically down the depth chart, but also by extension,
- 10:32Speaker 1: who would step in should anything happened to Harriston or
- 10:36Speaker 1: into Bedford CT. Appreciate you being here, Kendricks and the
- 10:40Speaker 1: chat saying go Bills, Go Bills, Kendrick, appreciate you being here.
- 10:43Speaker 1: Comment here old question here I should say, Oh, so,
- 10:46Speaker 1: what's our ceiling in your opinion? If we don't get
- 10:51Speaker 1: to the Super Bowl? Is it a failure of the season.
- 10:54Speaker 1: I think so. I'll start with the second part of
- 10:57Speaker 1: this question first. If we don't get the Bills don't
- 10:59Speaker 1: get to Super Bowl as a season, I don't think so,
- 11:02Speaker 1: just because I don't care how good your team is.
- 11:04Speaker 1: It's just so hard to win a super Bowl. The
- 11:06Speaker 1: odds of any one team winning the Super Bowl or
- 11:10Speaker 1: one of the other thirty one teams in the NFL
- 11:12Speaker 1: winning it, the odds are just significantly in favor of
- 11:15Speaker 1: one of the other thirty one teams. It's just so hard.
- 11:17Speaker 1: You have to stay healthy, your schedule has to fall
- 11:21Speaker 1: the right way, you have to be playing good ball
- 11:23Speaker 1: at the right time, and so much of the league
- 11:25Speaker 1: is match up driven. You might be the best team,
- 11:29Speaker 1: like legitimately you could be and I'm just staying from
- 11:31Speaker 1: the Bills perspective. You could be the best team in
- 11:33Speaker 1: the league or the best team in your conference, but
- 11:35Speaker 1: there might be a certain team or matchup that you
- 11:37Speaker 1: struggle against or struggle with, and maybe that's who you
- 11:40Speaker 1: get matched up in the Division A round or you
- 11:41Speaker 1: get bounced like it's so tough. I think for me,
- 11:46Speaker 1: a successful season bare minimum is winning the division. Again,
- 11:51Speaker 1: I think being a final four team is a success.
- 11:54Speaker 1: If you get to the championship round, I think that's success.
- 11:57Speaker 1: I do think from a ceiling perspective, I do think
- 12:00Speaker 1: this is a team that can compete for the Super Bowl. Again,
- 12:03Speaker 1: there's so much to be kind of fleshed out for
- 12:06Speaker 1: this team for the rest of the league. Kind of
- 12:09Speaker 1: really know who they are and what they are, I
- 12:12Speaker 1: will say, and I hope this doesn't make anybody too mad.
- 12:14Speaker 1: But I'm still kind of in the same position that
- 12:16Speaker 1: I was last year, where if everything clicks for any
- 12:21Speaker 1: one team, I still think the Baltimore Ravens are the
- 12:24Speaker 1: best team in the AFC just looking at what they
- 12:26Speaker 1: are offensively and defensively. If you take and again, we'll
- 12:30Speaker 1: just separate the NFC right now. I'm been talking about
- 12:32Speaker 1: going to the Super Bowl. If you're just looking at
- 12:34Speaker 1: the AFC and how these teams are built in their rosters,
- 12:36Speaker 1: and if you look at like if each team, if
- 12:38Speaker 1: everything goes right for them, where do they rank. I
- 12:42Speaker 1: think Baltimore is number one. I think the Bills are too.
- 12:45Speaker 1: Just kind of put that into perspective, which makes it
- 12:47Speaker 1: such a fun opening night game in Week one on
- 12:50Speaker 1: Sunday Night Football between Bills and Ravens. But I think
- 12:52Speaker 1: making the Final four. So when this says the championship
- 12:55Speaker 1: is a success, so I wouldn't say, you know, not
- 12:57Speaker 1: getting the Super Bowl as a failure and I thing,
- 13:00Speaker 1: but I do think the ceiling is getting to the
- 13:02Speaker 1: Super Bowl and winning it. I think this team has
- 13:04Speaker 1: the ability. I think they're built schematically for the league
- 13:07Speaker 1: now to have success in the league. They're obviously very
- 13:09Speaker 1: good at the quarterback position, and they can just get
- 13:11Speaker 1: a couple other guys to step up or some pieces
- 13:13Speaker 1: to fall in their favor. From a positive Domino perspective,
- 13:18Speaker 1: I do think this is the team that could go
- 13:20Speaker 1: to the Super Bowl and potentially win it, depending on obviously,
- 13:23Speaker 1: you know who they play, so on like that, Bill
- 13:27Speaker 1: says Niche conversation seems like a dearth of special teamers
- 13:29Speaker 1: from the skill group that aren't returner team guys excited
- 13:33Speaker 1: about the coaching upgrade, But who will be the specials?
- 13:35Speaker 1: I think this is a very good question, even just
- 13:37Speaker 1: starting with the returners, Like do they just go the
- 13:40Speaker 1: safe route and just say, hey, we're gonna go with
- 13:41Speaker 1: Ray Davis and Ty Johnson as our kick returners and
- 13:44Speaker 1: Kalie Secure as the partner returner or Shakure too valuable?
- 13:47Speaker 1: Now does Brad and Brandon Codrington get a roster spot
- 13:50Speaker 1: because of what he is as a returner? You know,
- 13:52Speaker 1: he's not gonna give you anything as a corner spot.
- 13:54Speaker 1: But is he good enough of a returner to just
- 13:57Speaker 1: make the roster because of his returnability? And then yeah,
- 14:00Speaker 1: that special team piece is it specter sticking around? Is it?
- 14:04Speaker 1: Joe Andreeson is it someone else who kind of funnels through?
- 14:08Speaker 1: Does JaMarcus Ingram step up and grab a Special Team's
- 14:11Speaker 1: roster spot. I do think it's interesting. And then even
- 14:13Speaker 1: going all the way down to the kicker conversation, does
- 14:16Speaker 1: Bass continue to stay steady like he was from pretty
- 14:20Speaker 1: much the middle of twenty twenty four on through the
- 14:21Speaker 1: end or does he start to get the yips again
- 14:23Speaker 1: and show the inconsistencies that he had to start last season?
- 14:26Speaker 1: Who wins the punter battle? Punter is all of a
- 14:28Speaker 1: sudden kind of like ugly and murky, even though this
- 14:31Speaker 1: team doesn't really pun a on anyway. I do think that,
- 14:34Speaker 1: and we know Special Team's value holds a lot of
- 14:36Speaker 1: weight when it comes to making the roster for the
- 14:38Speaker 1: Bills in Sean McDermott, Sean McDermott's eyes and the eyes
- 14:41Speaker 1: of the coaching staff. So I think that's a very
- 14:44Speaker 1: good question. Oh, I appreciate this comment, says Mischieann. I
- 14:46Speaker 1: don't thank you very much. I appreciate that. John says,
- 14:49Speaker 1: I'm assuming this is in reference on the time of
- 14:50Speaker 1: when you said this, John, I'm assuming this is in
- 14:52Speaker 1: reference to if Trey or I'm sorry if Harriston or
- 14:55Speaker 1: Benford go down. Who would you like to step in?
- 14:58Speaker 1: John's answer is Trey White or Dorian Strong, and then
- 15:01Speaker 1: he files that up by saying, I think Dan Jackson's
- 15:03Speaker 1: practice squad I've heard to Corey Kouch has played well
- 15:05Speaker 1: so far. I talked about to Corey Couch a little
- 15:08Speaker 1: bit last year. He's from the University of Miami. I
- 15:11Speaker 1: am a Hurricanes guy that is all about the U.
- 15:14Speaker 1: I would love to Corey Kouch to be able to
- 15:15Speaker 1: make an impact. I do think he's more inside the
- 15:17Speaker 1: slot and nickel bas than he is kind of making
- 15:19Speaker 1: anything on the outside, but physical, violent, some man in
- 15:23Speaker 1: match capability. I'm always down to watch. You know, a
- 15:26Speaker 1: guy that I liked in college play come training camp
- 15:28Speaker 1: preseason time, but I do think it would be a
- 15:30Speaker 1: little tough for him to kind of crack a roster spot.
- 15:34Speaker 1: James says, what roster spots are affected pre and post
- 15:38Speaker 1: Hoyt and Ogan Jovie's suspensions providing no injuries. I'm actually
- 15:42Speaker 1: gonna get into this as we speak about defensive tackle
- 15:44Speaker 1: on edge in this episode. So I think that's a
- 15:45Speaker 1: very very good question what I do. But aside from
- 15:49Speaker 1: those immediate ones, I would say what roster spots are affected.
- 15:52Speaker 1: Maybe you get an extra corner who makes the roster,
- 15:56Speaker 1: maybe an extra linebacker that makes the roster, maybe an
- 16:00Speaker 1: extra wide receiver. I would look at those three first.
- 16:03Speaker 1: Maybe maybe offensive line as well, but I would start
- 16:06Speaker 1: with those top three of corner, linebacker, and wide receiver
- 16:10Speaker 1: and kind of see and then you know, maybe even
- 16:12Speaker 1: safety depending on how you classify Ordan Hancock. I would
- 16:15Speaker 1: look at those. You know, they can potentially keep somebody there,
- 16:17Speaker 1: knowing that white Yogan Jobe are each going to miss
- 16:19Speaker 1: six games, and that's obviously outside of you know, keeping
- 16:22Speaker 1: an extra defensive tackle, keeping an extra edge k Moore.
- 16:27Speaker 1: He says getting a Super Bowl is playing good enough
- 16:30Speaker 1: games for is playing good enough games for three or
- 16:32Speaker 1: four straight games at the end of the season. It's
- 16:35Speaker 1: so much of it. I hate saying this because it
- 16:36Speaker 1: sounds like we were just saying that because the Bills
- 16:38Speaker 1: have been won one. You got to get hot at
- 16:39Speaker 1: the right time. You got to be healthy. It's funny
- 16:42Speaker 1: how often you know, most of the teams that win
- 16:44Speaker 1: the Super Bowl are often the healthiest teams come playoff time,
- 16:47Speaker 1: and you just got to have the board fall the
- 16:49Speaker 1: right way. Again, it's so much of this league is
- 16:52Speaker 1: matchups driven and matchup focused in season, but especially in
- 16:56Speaker 1: the playoffs where and even going to if the weather
- 17:00Speaker 1: doesn't fall your way the right way. I mean, even
- 17:03Speaker 1: look at the Rams, Like the Rams took it to
- 17:04Speaker 1: Philly and almost beat Philly. They had a chance to
- 17:06Speaker 1: beat Philly in the snow. I don't know, if you're
- 17:09Speaker 1: the Rams or if you're a Rams fan, are you
- 17:10Speaker 1: sitting here going, Man, if there wasn't snow like that,
- 17:12Speaker 1: we would have beaten Philly, you know, do you feel
- 17:14Speaker 1: that type of way? There's there's so many variables that
- 17:17Speaker 1: go into winning a super Bowl and getting there that
- 17:20Speaker 1: it's just so hard for me to sit there and say, like,
- 17:22Speaker 1: if you don't make the super Bowl or if you
- 17:24Speaker 1: don't win it, the season's of failure unless your team
- 17:27Speaker 1: is completely loaded at just every spot, and I don't
- 17:31Speaker 1: think the Bills are, and I don't know how many
- 17:33Speaker 1: teams are really in the league from my perspective and
- 17:35Speaker 1: quantifying that, it's really hard to say that. And there's
- 17:38Speaker 1: just so many variables. So yeah, that's a fair point.
- 17:43Speaker 1: Bill says, you beat up zay Flowers or a shop
- 17:45Speaker 1: Bateman at the line of scrimmage and send a missile
- 17:47Speaker 1: at Lamar every play for the first game, then change
- 17:50Speaker 1: it up with the suspended guys in the playoffs. Could
- 17:52Speaker 1: be put Uh, the Ravens are just so tough with
- 17:56Speaker 1: you just you just have you have to from an
- 17:58Speaker 1: offensive perspective of the Ravens, you just have to come
- 18:00Speaker 1: that so much like do you stop Lamar's legs? Do
- 18:02Speaker 1: you stop Derrick Henry and Justice Hill? Do you stop
- 18:06Speaker 1: Lamar's arm and his pocket ability?
- 18:08Speaker 2: Like?
- 18:08Speaker 1: Do you and even that with his arm? Like do
- 18:10Speaker 1: you stop him from making throws on the run? Do
- 18:12Speaker 1: you want to keep him hemmed in the pocket? He's
- 18:14Speaker 1: a better pocket passer and quarterback than he gets credit for.
- 18:17Speaker 1: I know he has prone to some mistakes and you know,
- 18:19Speaker 1: off at high profile ones, but I think so many
- 18:21Speaker 1: of the errors in his game have gotten blown up,
- 18:24Speaker 1: especially by the Bills fan base, and just that Ravens
- 18:28Speaker 1: offense is just so devastating from a conceptual standpoint, the
- 18:33Speaker 1: scope of what they're able to get to and how
- 18:36Speaker 1: efficient Todd Monkin, their offensive coordinator, is at putting players
- 18:39Speaker 1: in the right positions and setting them up for success
- 18:42Speaker 1: and putting in the most putting them in the most
- 18:44Speaker 1: advantageous role and getting the offense to function from a
- 18:47Speaker 1: cohesive standpoint. If they had a stronger offensive line, they'd
- 18:50Speaker 1: be even scarier. But just yeah, what they can do
- 18:53Speaker 1: from a personnel standpoint and alignment standpoint to pass the run,
- 18:56Speaker 1: they're terrifying. And then now defensively, if everybody stays healthy.
- 19:01Speaker 1: I love Malachai Starks at Georgia, and now they're looking
- 19:03Speaker 1: at a Malchai Starks and Kyle Hamilton safety tandem, which
- 19:06Speaker 1: legitimately could be one of the best in the league.
- 19:08Speaker 1: They signed JayR Alexander. If jay R Alexander stays healthy,
- 19:11Speaker 1: and now you're looking at your outside corners of Jai
- 19:13Speaker 1: Year and Wiggins, and then you can you still use
- 19:16Speaker 1: Humphrey on the outside or bump them inside as the nickel,
- 19:18Speaker 1: like they could have the best secondary in the league.
- 19:20Speaker 1: You have arguably the best linebacker in football and Rokwan Smith.
- 19:23Speaker 1: You've got talent on that defensive line as well. Like
- 19:26Speaker 1: they met a bk is one of the best at
- 19:28Speaker 1: his position. There's man, yeah, they're a unit on both sides.
- 19:34Speaker 1: Kent says, Trey White. Scares me. I don't think he
- 19:36Speaker 1: can run with receivers down the field anymore, that's fair.
- 19:39Speaker 1: I don't think he ever really nothing knock him really
- 19:41Speaker 1: ever could. He makes his living so much on technique
- 19:45Speaker 1: and footwork and being precise with his movements. I think
- 19:49Speaker 1: even more so now with age and miles on the
- 19:51Speaker 1: tires and the injuries that he's had. I really just
- 19:55Speaker 1: want to see how he looks come preseason and in
- 19:57Speaker 1: this defense, in this role. I think he was better
- 20:00Speaker 1: for the Ravens that he got some credit for, albeit
- 20:02Speaker 1: in very small sample size, and really just in a dime,
- 20:05Speaker 1: third down type of role for them after he got
- 20:07Speaker 1: cut from the Rams. But I think it's an interesting
- 20:08Speaker 1: conversation to have for CV three, like is it Trey,
- 20:11Speaker 1: is it Dane Jackson because of the known quantity, or
- 20:13Speaker 1: does Dorian Strong make a push given he takes a
- 20:16Speaker 1: lot of their archetype boxes and he's also got, you know,
- 20:19Speaker 1: youth and athleticism on his side compared to Dane and Trey,
- 20:22Speaker 1: even though he's not the most most athletic guy himself.
- 20:26Speaker 1: Charles says that the defense folds again in the playoffs,
- 20:28Speaker 1: that's an l I mean, obviously, if the defense folds, Yeah,
- 20:31Speaker 1: or Alan's or Alan has to play out of his mind,
- 20:34Speaker 1: Like I think kind of lost in that Chiefs game
- 20:36Speaker 1: with how it ended was. Alan did not start out
- 20:39Speaker 1: very good. He was very skittish those first couple drives.
- 20:42Speaker 1: I thought they'd pivot to the run game earlier than
- 20:44Speaker 1: they did. I mean, I thought they pivot to the
- 20:46Speaker 1: run game more. In general. I still wish, you know,
- 20:49Speaker 1: Cook got the ball more in that game. I wish
- 20:51Speaker 1: they started running it with Cook and Davis earlier to
- 20:53Speaker 1: let Alan settle in, especially how shaky he looked in
- 20:56Speaker 1: the first quarter, especially those first two drives. Again, everything
- 21:00Speaker 1: just has to go right, Everything just has to click.
- 21:02Speaker 1: It's tough. It's tough, man. Kay Moy says the Ravens
- 21:05Speaker 1: have the best A game in the AFC, probably the league,
- 21:08Speaker 1: but they forget what their A game is in the playoffs.
- 21:10Speaker 1: I think that's so well said, that's so spot on.
- 21:13Speaker 1: They are. I really do feel like on paper they're
- 21:18Speaker 1: like the best roster and I kind of made that
- 21:20Speaker 1: case the past couple of years at least in the AFC.
- 21:22Speaker 1: And yeah, it's like, man, if they click and things
- 21:24Speaker 1: go right and they play their A game, who's beating them?
- 21:27Speaker 1: And they just find a way to shoot themselves in
- 21:30Speaker 1: the foot or it's not even like they play their
- 21:32Speaker 1: a game and then also like shoot themselves in the
- 21:36Speaker 1: foot devastatingly, or they're just completely off their game. It's
- 21:39Speaker 1: just that's another example though, too, Like they're quality team
- 21:43Speaker 1: year in and year on, it have been for years,
- 21:45Speaker 1: but they just don't put it together in the right
- 21:46Speaker 1: way at the right time in the playoffs and they
- 21:48Speaker 1: get bounced or you have crazy things happen to them,
- 21:51Speaker 1: like what happened against Kansas City two years ago with
- 21:53Speaker 1: the Flowers fumble on the goal line after he got
- 21:56Speaker 1: stopped on that big game. It's just, oh, things gotta
- 21:59Speaker 1: click in the right way at the right time. I mean,
- 22:01Speaker 1: even look at Baltimore last year, Like you have a
- 22:03Speaker 1: couple Lamar mistakes against the Bills, but you have a
- 22:07Speaker 1: drop from Mark Andrews, the crazy fumble from Mark Andrews,
- 22:11Speaker 1: Like there's just the margin air is so small. And
- 22:14Speaker 1: the Ravens, yeah, just find a way to kind of
- 22:16Speaker 1: lose the game for themselves even though they're so terrifying. Yeah,
- 22:19Speaker 1: it's nuts, James says. First game against the Ravens is huge. Absolutely,
- 22:22Speaker 1: I'm very excited for it. John says, I heard Elijah
- 22:25Speaker 1: Moore as it is a possible returner. Could be We're
- 22:28Speaker 1: gonna talk about receiver in a little bit. John also
- 22:30Speaker 1: talks about Tyrrel Shavers working on playing special teams and
- 22:33Speaker 1: could be the Bill six receiver, and then mentions that
- 22:35Speaker 1: Trey White has good leadership. I agree. Claude says, on paper,
- 22:39Speaker 1: Baltimore and Philly are head and shoulders above everyone else. Yeah,
- 22:43Speaker 1: that's probably fair. That is probably fair. I also think
- 22:48Speaker 1: the Lions on paper have a really good team, but
- 22:50Speaker 1: there's this questions now with the new offensive coordinator. Bill
- 22:55Speaker 1: says the a game is mentally exceptional Josh and La Marvers,
- 22:58Speaker 1: Brady and Mahomes physically. I don't know kind of reading
- 23:01Speaker 1: this correctly or incorrectly, I mean, yeah, it's I still think.
- 23:06Speaker 1: I still think Lamar's performances from a negative perspective get
- 23:09Speaker 1: blown up too much. And again, I know against the
- 23:11Speaker 1: Bills the most recent game, the interception, which the Bills
- 23:15Speaker 1: did a good job enforcing. I think he tried to
- 23:17Speaker 1: do too much on the fumble and essentially kind of
- 23:20Speaker 1: did it to himself more than it was done to him.
- 23:22Speaker 1: Although the Bills crossed him up, so that's, you know,
- 23:24Speaker 1: tip of the cap to them. But I still look at,
- 23:27Speaker 1: you know, when push came to shove down and needing
- 23:31Speaker 1: a score in Buffalo, in the cold, in the snow,
- 23:35Speaker 1: Lamar marched them right down the field with ease and
- 23:39Speaker 1: kind of didn't make the best over Lamar andrew or
- 23:41Speaker 1: Lamar Andrews mark Andrews for that tying two point conversion.
- 23:45Speaker 1: But Andrews still should have caught it. I mean, he
- 23:47Speaker 1: put in his hands, and there's a lot of things
- 23:48Speaker 1: to dingle right in that Ravens offense in general was
- 23:50Speaker 1: unstoppable in the second half. They just ran through the bills,
- 23:53Speaker 1: passed through the bills, They did whatever they want. Aside
- 23:55Speaker 1: from those turnovers that changed the game pretty uh yeah,
- 23:58Speaker 1: a lot of momentum swinging plays in that one for sure.
- 24:01Speaker 1: All Right, Corey is saying what level of past ra
- 24:06Speaker 1: snaps and expected sad told those for rookie de Lynman
- 24:09Speaker 1: Sanders Jackson and what's the big guy Deon Walker starting
- 24:13Speaker 1: safety predictions beginning of the season and week ten, Corey,
- 24:17Speaker 1: good news for you is I'm gonna answer several of
- 24:19Speaker 1: those questions as we keep discussing more position groups in
- 24:22Speaker 1: this episode. I'll start off with let's just go into
- 24:27Speaker 1: let's go into defensive tackle right now, because it's actually no.
- 24:31Speaker 1: I'll start with wide receiver. It's a simple conversation, but Corey,
- 24:33Speaker 1: all of your questions will be answered as I go
- 24:35Speaker 1: through several more position group big than this next a
- 24:37Speaker 1: little bit. So I like where your head is at,
- 24:38Speaker 1: and I appreciate your question. Wide receiver is another one,
- 24:42Speaker 1: and the reason I wanted to lead off with corner
- 24:43Speaker 1: wide receiver. I have some other position groups we're going
- 24:45Speaker 1: to talk about in this episode, but we have talked
- 24:47Speaker 1: about them at different levels into varying degrees throughout the
- 24:49Speaker 1: rest of this earlier in this offseason, so I didn't
- 24:52Speaker 1: want to, you know, bang that drum too much again
- 24:54Speaker 1: or lead off with that drum, I should say, but
- 24:56Speaker 1: wide receiver, the biggest question, or the top question for
- 24:59Speaker 1: me here this position group is what do they get
- 25:01Speaker 1: from everyone not named Khalil Shakir. I think at this
- 25:05Speaker 1: point his role and his usage are very much established
- 25:09Speaker 1: and very much known, and he got paid like it
- 25:12Speaker 1: this offseason. But the rest of this group is question marks.
- 25:15Speaker 1: And I say that from a plural perspective, because I
- 25:18Speaker 1: think it's questioned marks across pretty much every other wide
- 25:21Speaker 1: receiver in terms of role, expectation, usage. We have an
- 25:24Speaker 1: idea of the fits, the roles, and the usages, but
- 25:28Speaker 1: I really do think it's unknown quantities for most of
- 25:30Speaker 1: the guys who are for the guys who are most
- 25:33Speaker 1: likely to make the roster, I should say, you know,
- 25:37Speaker 1: Curtis Samuel, for example, we saw flashes of what he
- 25:40Speaker 1: can be down the stretch, but can he stay healthy.
- 25:43Speaker 1: I am still going to maintain and stand on what
- 25:47Speaker 1: I saw in training camp last year. When I went
- 25:49Speaker 1: to training camp, three out of those first four days,
- 25:52Speaker 1: he was used as that adjuster, that move guy all
- 25:55Speaker 1: around the offense. He Brady was using him to create
- 25:57Speaker 1: horizontal leverage, leverage vertically. He was stretching the defense. He
- 26:01Speaker 1: was getting stuff in the flats and the low intermediate.
- 26:04Speaker 1: They were getting stuff to him by design. They were
- 26:07Speaker 1: using him to kind of drain coverage but also get
- 26:10Speaker 1: him into advantageous matchups against different body types. He was
- 26:14Speaker 1: cooking in training camp, but then he gets that toe injury.
- 26:17Speaker 1: They don't shut him down. He plays through it, but
- 26:20Speaker 1: the effectiveness just was not there. For the majority of
- 26:22Speaker 1: the year, and then coincidentally not. As he gets healthier
- 26:25Speaker 1: down the stretch and into the playoffs, he starts to
- 26:27Speaker 1: play better. He has that big touchdown against the Broncos
- 26:30Speaker 1: in the playoffs. He performed well against the Chiefs in
- 26:32Speaker 1: Buffalo in their first regular seat in the first meeting
- 26:35Speaker 1: of the year in the regular season. But can he
- 26:37Speaker 1: stay healthy? And then we have Josh Palmer? What does
- 26:42Speaker 1: Palmer offer in that Amari Cooper role from last year?
- 26:46Speaker 1: Ken Palmer be the one on one winner that they
- 26:49Speaker 1: need him to be. Can he be that guy who
- 26:51Speaker 1: beats man coverage? Can he be that guy who could
- 26:54Speaker 1: win at the release and win in the stem? How
- 26:56Speaker 1: much of a vertical threat is he? He's not a
- 26:58Speaker 1: pure burner, not a ton of speed. He's not slow,
- 27:01Speaker 1: but he's not some guy that just strikes fear into
- 27:03Speaker 1: CBS because he's so fast and he can get on
- 27:05Speaker 1: you so quickly and run by you. He wins more
- 27:08Speaker 1: with deception, good stem work, and within the scheme of
- 27:11Speaker 1: a play. So what do you get from him overall?
- 27:14Speaker 1: From an effectiveness standpoint? Keon Coleman, what do you get
- 27:17Speaker 1: from Keon Coleman in year two? Such a huge, huge
- 27:21Speaker 1: question mark for this year and really going forward. I
- 27:25Speaker 1: don't know if this is positive or negative, but I'm
- 27:27Speaker 1: in a similar boat with Keon as I was last year,
- 27:30Speaker 1: where I still think the ceiling is high for him,
- 27:32Speaker 1: and I still think the flow the flow the floor
- 27:34Speaker 1: is low for him. I think you can make a
- 27:37Speaker 1: case that, you know, Keon Coleman two three years from
- 27:41Speaker 1: now could be a top end wide receiver too. I
- 27:44Speaker 1: also think you could make the case that two or
- 27:45Speaker 1: three years from now, Keon Coleman is fighting for a
- 27:48Speaker 1: roster spot and you know it signs a bunch of
- 27:51Speaker 1: one year deals for the next four or five years
- 27:54Speaker 1: after that because everybody thinks they can be the one
- 27:55Speaker 1: to finally tap into him and get him to reach
- 27:58Speaker 1: that ceiling. I think the outcome is filled with a
- 28:02Speaker 1: varied amount of possibilities and likelihoods for Keon Coleman. And
- 28:06Speaker 1: that's a big question with this with this grouping, right,
- 28:09Speaker 1: because you also to do need someone to step into
- 28:13Speaker 1: that Mac Collins role from a run blocking perspective, Who's
- 28:15Speaker 1: going to do that dirty work, Who's going to fit
- 28:17Speaker 1: an insert on duo, who is going to block on
- 28:21Speaker 1: all these runs with pass tags and the RPO bubbles
- 28:24Speaker 1: and everything that they like to work. Who is going
- 28:26Speaker 1: to offer that. Hollins I think played a bigger role
- 28:29Speaker 1: from you know, doing the dirty work and just being
- 28:32Speaker 1: a glue guy schematically. Then he gets credit for everything.
- 28:35Speaker 1: Was so much like culture and he's fun. He doesn't
- 28:37Speaker 1: wear shoes ha ha. I look what he wears at
- 28:38Speaker 1: the Games. But he was more of a glue guy
- 28:40Speaker 1: for the offense than I think he got credit for.
- 28:44Speaker 1: Keon Coleman's got the body type and the size to
- 28:46Speaker 1: be that type of blocker, but can he be that
- 28:49Speaker 1: type of blocker that Hollins was from a technique perspective,
- 28:53Speaker 1: from knowing your assignment perspective, from a violence and a
- 28:56Speaker 1: physicality perspective, I think that's even just that has a
- 28:58Speaker 1: lot to put on Coleman's plate let alone. The actual
- 29:01Speaker 1: receiver quote unquote receiver stuff in terms of route running,
- 29:05Speaker 1: stem work, release work, and just the precision and the
- 29:10Speaker 1: craft that he needed to hone more at the wide
- 29:12Speaker 1: receiver position. And then you've got Elijah Moore, who I
- 29:16Speaker 1: really do think is the wild card of this group.
- 29:18Speaker 1: Wildcard meaning if you told me Elijah Moore finishes as
- 29:23Speaker 1: you know, the second most productive receiver after Coliol secure
- 29:26Speaker 1: for the Bills. I wouldn't think that's crazy, and I
- 29:28Speaker 1: don't think that means like anything bad or that doesn't
- 29:31Speaker 1: mean like, oh, well, they punch it on the season.
- 29:33Speaker 1: And that's why if you told me, you know he's
- 29:37Speaker 1: used sparingly as wide receiver five or wide receiver four,
- 29:39Speaker 1: I believe if you tell me he doesn't make the team,
- 29:41Speaker 1: I can see it. But I do think Elijah Moore
- 29:44Speaker 1: is going to contribute meaningful snaps to the Bills. I
- 29:47Speaker 1: don't know how much from a you know, usage perspective.
- 29:50Speaker 1: I think a lot of it's going to depend on
- 29:52Speaker 1: the factors above him, right like what is keyon Coleman
- 29:55Speaker 1: and how healthy concur to same movie. I think in
- 29:57Speaker 1: an ideal world for the Bills, Elijah Moore is like
- 29:59Speaker 1: white receiver five, maybe moonlighting is wide receiver four or
- 30:03Speaker 1: used in certain packages with certain looks, or having more
- 30:06Speaker 1: of a specified role within the offense, just given how
- 30:10Speaker 1: they are run. First team built on condensed formations and
- 30:15Speaker 1: reduce formational with and being able to marry the run
- 30:17Speaker 1: in the past. But I amaged to see what Elijah
- 30:21Speaker 1: Moore can be but literally, I think those are significant
- 30:24Speaker 1: questions and legitimate questions for each person not named Khalil Shakir.
- 30:28Speaker 1: We know what Shakiir is, we know what Shakur does. Also,
- 30:31Speaker 1: I don't want to downplay Shakir and make that seem like, Okay,
- 30:35Speaker 1: that means Shakir can't get any better. It doesn't mean
- 30:38Speaker 1: he's gonna he's he's plateaued. Shakira could continue to ascend
- 30:42Speaker 1: and could still be on an upward trajector. I just
- 30:44Speaker 1: want to kind of put that out there. But we
- 30:46Speaker 1: know what the floor is. We know what the baseline
- 30:48Speaker 1: value and usage is for Khalil Shakir. We don't know
- 30:52Speaker 1: that for anybody. Palmer hasn't been in this offense. Elijah
- 30:56Speaker 1: Moore hasn't been in this offense. Keon Coleman just has
- 30:59Speaker 1: such a wide ray on the spectrum of possibilities of
- 31:02Speaker 1: what he could be from Florida ceiling. And then you've
- 31:05Speaker 1: got Curtis Samuel who can't stay healthy and that's not
- 31:09Speaker 1: a bills thing, that's just a thing throughout his career
- 31:13Speaker 1: in the NFL thus far. So we'll see going to
- 31:16Speaker 1: comments here, what's up Pete Pete says It's a good
- 31:18Speaker 1: point on Samuel. He's been forgotten this offseason, but they
- 31:21Speaker 1: really didn't have him a year ago. That is correct.
- 31:24Speaker 1: I you know what, I do feel a little bad
- 31:26Speaker 1: for him because he I think it was turftiw that
- 31:29Speaker 1: he had, and turf toe sucks and in general, but
- 31:33Speaker 1: especially for a receiver who all the cutting and planning
- 31:36Speaker 1: and movement than you have to do, you could just
- 31:37Speaker 1: tell he was not right and he tried to play
- 31:39Speaker 1: through it, and it really didn't do him any favors
- 31:41Speaker 1: as far as the usage and production and in the
- 31:43Speaker 1: eyes of the fan base. But again, you know, like
- 31:46Speaker 1: I mentioned, and as you alluded to, as he got healthier,
- 31:49Speaker 1: we saw the speed, we saw the stride, we saw
- 31:52Speaker 1: some of the playmaking ability. I don't think he's I
- 31:54Speaker 1: don't think he's ever going to be like a true
- 31:56Speaker 1: wide receiver one honestly, maybe even a true wide receiver too,
- 31:59Speaker 1: But I think he is a guy that can be
- 32:00Speaker 1: a high wide receiver three, low end wide receiver two.
- 32:04Speaker 1: The guy who you know, maybe one game he has
- 32:07Speaker 1: six catches for one hundred and fifteen yards, but most
- 32:09Speaker 1: of the time you're looking for like three to five
- 32:11Speaker 1: catches anywhere from thirty five to maybe sixty or seventy
- 32:15Speaker 1: yards if he breaks one. But I do think the
- 32:17Speaker 1: schematic potential is there, the motions, all the pre snap
- 32:21Speaker 1: movement and the shifting, how functional he can be in
- 32:23Speaker 1: and out of bunches, and just when you get him
- 32:26Speaker 1: going before the snap. And not to mention, his most
- 32:28Speaker 1: productive year in the NFL came with Joe Brady at
- 32:31Speaker 1: the Helm in Carolina. They bring him here last year.
- 32:33Speaker 1: I am still going to maintain that they had a
- 32:36Speaker 1: plan for him last year that was unable to be
- 32:38Speaker 1: put into fruition because of his injury, and I do
- 32:42Speaker 1: think they try to get back to that this year.
- 32:43Speaker 1: It wouldn't surprise me if he balled out the first
- 32:45Speaker 1: several weeks and everybody's going, wow, Curtis Samuel kind of
- 32:48Speaker 1: came out of nowhere. But if you really looked, there
- 32:50Speaker 1: are some breadcrumbs that are there from last year in
- 32:52Speaker 1: training camp and from last year once he started to
- 32:55Speaker 1: get healthy a bit, James says, McBean seems to think
- 32:58Speaker 1: Keamus responded well to all season motivation. I expect big
- 33:01Speaker 1: things from Coleman. I hope so. I would really like
- 33:05Speaker 1: Coleman was my wide receiver nine last year, I believe,
- 33:12Speaker 1: but I would really love you know, I post a
- 33:14Speaker 1: lot of clips across the league, and anytime I post
- 33:16Speaker 1: anything from a rookie wide receiver from last year, everybody's
- 33:19Speaker 1: just like, man Keon sucks, which Keon as good as
- 33:21Speaker 1: lab Aconky or you know, man, what to play by
- 33:24Speaker 1: Ady Mitchell? Keon Coleman can't do that? Man? What a
- 33:26Speaker 1: play by Savior worthy? Keon Coleman can't do that. I
- 33:28Speaker 1: would like him to ball out and have a good year,
- 33:31Speaker 1: just so that would stop. But also just you know,
- 33:33Speaker 1: for the sake of the Bills, I don't know what
- 33:36Speaker 1: to think. My expectations for him are so again, like
- 33:39Speaker 1: I mentioned, I'm in the same boat as I was
- 33:40Speaker 1: last year. And if I if I bake it down
- 33:43Speaker 1: into just this season, if you told me that he
- 33:45Speaker 1: balled out and was the legitimate second best wide receiver
- 33:49Speaker 1: after Khalil Secure, I could believe you. If you told
- 33:52Speaker 1: me that he ends up being like fourth or fifth
- 33:55Speaker 1: on the depth chart at the end of this year,
- 33:57Speaker 1: I could believe it. And again, I don't think that
- 33:59Speaker 1: means he's terrible for the future, just do think he
- 34:02Speaker 1: has he has so much to work on from a
- 34:04Speaker 1: refinement standpoint and from a precision standpoint and technique standpoint
- 34:09Speaker 1: that it just makes it just makes his ceiling and floor.
- 34:13Speaker 1: Like I said, just such a wide array of outcomes
- 34:15Speaker 1: along that spectrum. Claude says, I'm assuming five writers wide
- 34:19Speaker 1: receivers unless someone goes crazy in training camp Shakir, Coleman, Palmer,
- 34:23Speaker 1: Samuel and Moore. I'm hoping pray there. I'm guessing Shavers. Yeah,
- 34:26Speaker 1: I'm going with five. Like I mentioned earlier with that question,
- 34:29Speaker 1: I do think with Hoite Nogan Joby having the suspensions,
- 34:32Speaker 1: I think there's an opportunity for a six receiver to
- 34:34Speaker 1: get a spot. I would think it is between. I
- 34:38Speaker 1: think Shavers as the inside track. Prayther, giving his size
- 34:41Speaker 1: and frame and skill set and traits, I think has
- 34:43Speaker 1: a chance just because he is a bit of a
- 34:45Speaker 1: unique guy in that room where at least off the
- 34:47Speaker 1: top of the the room is constructed. And then maybe
- 34:49Speaker 1: of an outside chance with Leviskus Chenault or maybe kJ
- 34:55Speaker 1: Hamler just because of how fast he is. I know
- 34:56Speaker 1: they liked what Jalen Virgil did last year. Just more
- 34:58Speaker 1: of a blocker and the motion guy. I think that's
- 35:01Speaker 1: a fair thought, Bill says student body right with Jackson Hawes,
- 35:05Speaker 1: Anderson crushing with two go routes with Elijah and Curtis.
- 35:08Speaker 1: Who's with me. I'll take it even further. I mentioned
- 35:10Speaker 1: it on an episode earlier this offseason. Give me thirteen
- 35:13Speaker 1: personnel and jumbo at the same time. So give me
- 35:16Speaker 1: Dalton Kincaid split out wide is the quote unquote ex receiver,
- 35:19Speaker 1: So he's outside by himself as a quasi X and
- 35:23Speaker 1: we are condensed with our five offensive linemen and also
- 35:26Speaker 1: attached to the line of scrimmage is Alec Anderson, Dawson Knox,
- 35:30Speaker 1: and Jackson Hawes. And just let me mash the hell
- 35:34Speaker 1: out of defenses and then just mix and play action
- 35:37Speaker 1: when I want, or see who's covering Kincaid one on
- 35:39Speaker 1: one and let him kind of work. Kent says, I
- 35:43Speaker 1: never liked the colemanpick, but I thought he did a
- 35:44Speaker 1: good job blocking down field last year. I think he's
- 35:46Speaker 1: a willing guy. I do think he's willing for me.
- 35:48Speaker 1: It's more of the question of being assignment sound and
- 35:50Speaker 1: the technique. It like seventy percent of blocking his willingness right,
- 35:56Speaker 1: but you do have to be in the right spot
- 35:57Speaker 1: at the right time. Knowing your assignment by positioning is
- 36:00Speaker 1: so important hands hand usage, hand placement, your base, everything
- 36:05Speaker 1: being solid. So I think the willingness is there for me.
- 36:08Speaker 1: It's just more of the question of the body, positioning,
- 36:10Speaker 1: the technique and being assignment sum John says, I heard
- 36:14Speaker 1: Palmer Moore did great no tas in mining camp. I
- 36:16Speaker 1: heard the same thing, which I think is very encouraging.
- 36:19Speaker 1: James says Coleman is his own worst critic, which is
- 36:21Speaker 1: awesome to see. Right, you want to see from a
- 36:23Speaker 1: guy who needs development, who has a high ceiling but
- 36:26Speaker 1: a low four. You want him to be his own
- 36:28Speaker 1: worst critics, so that way gives you some hope that
- 36:31Speaker 1: you know he's willing to kind of put that work
- 36:33Speaker 1: into be the player that you want him to be.
- 36:36Speaker 1: John says Coleman came to camp but twenty pounds more muscle,
- 36:38Speaker 1: and Coleman is practicing with Josh before training camp. Twenty
- 36:40Speaker 1: pounds more, twenty pounds more muscle. That's a lot, but
- 36:44Speaker 1: you know, I believe for this for a time now.
- 36:48Speaker 1: Number one CT Bills fan says, I'm going to be
- 36:50Speaker 1: really excited to see the defensive line in the second
- 36:52Speaker 1: half of the season. I like that comment because that
- 36:57Speaker 1: allow us to transition to the defensive line, and we're
- 36:59Speaker 1: gonna go right into defensive tackle, another position group that
- 37:03Speaker 1: I think has Again I'm not going to bang this
- 37:05Speaker 1: drump too much. I've talked about defensive tackle on edge
- 37:07Speaker 1: a lot this offseason, even as you know, most recently
- 37:11Speaker 1: as the episode I did on the day that Joey
- 37:13Speaker 1: bosas the Joey Bosa injury news broke, and I talked
- 37:15Speaker 1: about how important he was and what he means to
- 37:18Speaker 1: the ceiling of the edge grouping but the defensive line
- 37:20Speaker 1: as a whole. But I do think there is you know,
- 37:23Speaker 1: one large question and a couple of like sub questions
- 37:26Speaker 1: that factor off of the defensive tackle question or the
- 37:29Speaker 1: big question for defensive tackle that I should say also
- 37:32Speaker 1: ties into Corey. Corey's question earlier from the chat first
- 37:37Speaker 1: one anyway, that was on the rookie defensive lineman, one
- 37:40Speaker 1: of them being t J. Sanders, the other one being
- 37:42Speaker 1: Land and Jackson, which will talk about when we get
- 37:44Speaker 1: to edge. I think the big question for defensive tackle,
- 37:49Speaker 1: I think it's one big question, but I think it
- 37:51Speaker 1: splits off in the two parts because of the Lario
- 37:53Speaker 1: and Jobe's suspension, which really muddies this position grouping, just
- 37:56Speaker 1: like the Michael Hoyts suspension muddies the edge grouping. So
- 37:58Speaker 1: the first big question, and that again splits off into
- 38:01Speaker 1: two parts for the defensive tackle moving for me, is
- 38:05Speaker 1: who is the odd man out? Is the first question
- 38:08Speaker 1: for me? And then the second question kind of that's
- 38:12Speaker 1: an offshoot of that. How does Larry Ogunjobe's suspension change
- 38:16Speaker 1: things or impact things or open anything up for anyone? Again,
- 38:21Speaker 1: we've talked about it a bit throughout this offseason. I
- 38:24Speaker 1: think when no one is suspended, I think you're looking
- 38:28Speaker 1: at a top four at defensive tackle of ed Oliver,
- 38:32Speaker 1: Daikwon Jones, Larry Ogunjoby, and TJ. Sanders. I think there's
- 38:35Speaker 1: a chance for a fifth to be on the roster.
- 38:38Speaker 1: Could be Dwane Carter, could be Dean Walker. We'll see
- 38:41Speaker 1: what Walker's health looks like. But Larry Ogunjobi, as we know,
- 38:45Speaker 1: or if you don't know, I'm sorry to break this
- 38:46Speaker 1: news to you, Larry Ogunjobey suspended for the first six
- 38:49Speaker 1: games of the season, So he's out. So we're talking
- 38:53Speaker 1: opening night in Buffalo against the Baltimore Ravens. You're looking
- 38:57Speaker 1: at Ed, Oliver, Daikwon Jones, TJ. Sanders, and then what
- 39:02Speaker 1: else are we looking at at defensive tackle? So for me,
- 39:05Speaker 1: who the odd man out is is in reference or
- 39:10Speaker 1: relation to once Ogunjobi is back from suspension or if
- 39:13Speaker 1: all things were equal, But even with Ogunjobi out, like
- 39:16Speaker 1: we talked about a bit, so then you've got Ed,
- 39:18Speaker 1: You've got Daquon, You've got Sanders? Is it Carter Walker?
- 39:22Speaker 1: And Zion log Is it just another guy to make four?
- 39:28Speaker 1: Is it five guys? Are there six guys that are
- 39:30Speaker 1: in contention? But it's really only four or five because
- 39:33Speaker 1: of the suspension. I just want to know who the
- 39:35Speaker 1: odd man out is at defensive tackle. And what frustrates
- 39:41Speaker 1: me about the group is the redundancy of the skill
- 39:45Speaker 1: set they leaned into and just how vulnerable it makes
- 39:48Speaker 1: them against the run from a displacement standpoint. Again, I'm
- 39:51Speaker 1: not going to go into it too much because I've
- 39:52Speaker 1: talked about it a bunch this offseason, but you know,
- 39:54Speaker 1: they really leaned into the penetration and the gap shooting
- 39:57Speaker 1: aspect from the interior, leaning into pass rush more than
- 40:01Speaker 1: run defense and displacement limitation. So they're banking on Ed
- 40:07Speaker 1: and Larry Ogunjobi and TJ. Sanders just shooting gaps. I
- 40:11Speaker 1: think you're gonna see a lot of stunts inside. I
- 40:13Speaker 1: think you're seeing a lot of games inside. I think
- 40:15Speaker 1: you're gonna see twists. I think you're gonna see pirate stunts.
- 40:17Speaker 1: I think you're gonna see a lot of you know,
- 40:19Speaker 1: run blitzes, run stunts, slants, crashes, a lot of games
- 40:22Speaker 1: up front against the run and the pass. I think
- 40:26Speaker 1: they're gonna lean into habit creation more so than you know,
- 40:29Speaker 1: guys who can hold up against a double team, Guys
- 40:32Speaker 1: who can drop the knee or reduce their surface area,
- 40:34Speaker 1: or you know, be able to kind of lean in
- 40:37Speaker 1: and play with leverage and lean and mitigate displacement vertically
- 40:42Speaker 1: and or horizontally. Baltimore is gonna be a big test
- 40:46Speaker 1: early on because they want to displace you all over
- 40:49Speaker 1: the place, they want to push you around. They're gonna
- 40:51Speaker 1: use gap scheme runs and take advantage of guys who
- 40:54Speaker 1: get upfield and try to shoot gaps. So it'll be
- 40:56Speaker 1: very interesting to see how the Bills kind of combat. Yes,
- 41:00Speaker 1: Claude says they're still gonna have the same weakness versus
- 41:03Speaker 1: Baltimore exclamation point exclamation points so frustrating, Yes they are.
- 41:08Speaker 1: I think a lot of teams also have that weakness
- 41:10Speaker 1: against Baltimore. But yes, the Bills do have that weakness.
- 41:15Speaker 1: They're just gonna have to beat it by They're gonna
- 41:17Speaker 1: have to get up the field faster and shoot gaps
- 41:20Speaker 1: faster than Baltimore can pick them up and move them
- 41:22Speaker 1: out of the picture. And it's just gonna kind of
- 41:24Speaker 1: be a bit of a game of Russian Roulette with that, right,
- 41:28Speaker 1: like who gets who first? Do the Bills get you
- 41:30Speaker 1: or do the Bills get gotten?
- 41:32Speaker 2: Like?
- 41:32Speaker 1: And that's what it's gonna be. And it's a little
- 41:35Speaker 1: nerve wracking, but that's the bed they made and they
- 41:37Speaker 1: got to lie in it. Bill says, what's wrong with
- 41:40Speaker 1: having seven three texts? Yeah? And then the little emoji
- 41:43Speaker 1: the disappointment. Yeah, I get it. So we'll see what
- 41:46Speaker 1: this looks with this group looks like come, you know,
- 41:48Speaker 1: full circle. I think we know what it looks like
- 41:51Speaker 1: from an archetype standpoint, from a philosophy standpoint. I talked
- 41:53Speaker 1: a little bit about what it looks like schematically, but
- 41:57Speaker 1: really is just who's the odd man out. You know,
- 41:59Speaker 1: do they keep defensive tackles? If they do? You know
- 42:03Speaker 1: who's at the bottom there is it? Is it Dwayne
- 42:05Speaker 1: Carter over Dion Walker. Obviously, Walker's health is so important.
- 42:10Speaker 1: That back and that that spinal defect or whatever it
- 42:15Speaker 1: is that he had. I wrote it down and talked
- 42:16Speaker 1: about it so much during the off season for draft
- 42:19Speaker 1: prep and evaluation, and I've forgotten about it now. But
- 42:21Speaker 1: is his back good? Is his spine good? Can he
- 42:24Speaker 1: redistribute some of that weight and change his body composition
- 42:27Speaker 1: a little bit? One to help that back, but also
- 42:29Speaker 1: to just help his mobility because he is a big guy,
- 42:32Speaker 1: but he does have a lean lower body and thinner
- 42:35Speaker 1: type of legs, so you don't want him to carry
- 42:38Speaker 1: all this weight up top. I think Walker's path to
- 42:42Speaker 1: success in the NFL is filled with a lot of
- 42:44Speaker 1: variables and isn't as straightforward or as hopeful as it's
- 42:48Speaker 1: kind of being made out to be, I should say.
- 42:50Speaker 1: But they can get him healthy if they can change
- 42:52Speaker 1: his body composition a little bit, you know, I think
- 42:54Speaker 1: there's an opportunity for him to be defensive tackle five
- 42:56Speaker 1: or defensive tackle four, and then Dwayne Carter man just
- 42:59Speaker 1: somebody who was very ineffective last year against the Run
- 43:04Speaker 1: and in the past had some nice flashes, kind of
- 43:07Speaker 1: got caught in between roles in between weight. You know,
- 43:11Speaker 1: after Night one, when the Bills select Harston, it's like, oh,
- 43:14Speaker 1: you know, we think we're gonna have him play more
- 43:17Speaker 1: of of a one tech type of role, and then
- 43:20Speaker 1: all of a sudden they draft or Yeah, he's gonna
- 43:22Speaker 1: be that kind of the other one tech and then
- 43:23Speaker 1: they take CJ. Sanders, and there the role kind of
- 43:26Speaker 1: changes for him. It just makes you feel like he's
- 43:27Speaker 1: the guy that It's kind of like the Michael Scott
- 43:30Speaker 1: gift from the Office or the episode of the Office
- 43:31Speaker 1: with just like snip snap, snip snap, snip snap, Like,
- 43:33Speaker 1: I wonder what type of plan they have him on,
- 43:38Speaker 1: what the focal point is for him, what his role
- 43:40Speaker 1: will be. I think he's the odd man out if
- 43:44Speaker 1: Walker can be healthy. But I do think Walker's health
- 43:48Speaker 1: is a significant variable in Red Flag, and I could
- 43:52Speaker 1: see him being put being put on the pup or
- 43:54Speaker 1: not really even playing much this year and him being
- 43:56Speaker 1: more of a Year two kind of guy. So yeah,
- 44:00Speaker 1: we'll we'll see. I think Carter they're going to use
- 44:02Speaker 1: to try and be a bit of a three and
- 44:04Speaker 1: a bit of a one, which I think is a
- 44:06Speaker 1: disservice to him because he is built to be more
- 44:08Speaker 1: of a three and a leaner free a three where
- 44:11Speaker 1: he can penetrate and attack. So having him play a
- 44:13Speaker 1: little heavier, asking him to take on double teams, ask
- 44:16Speaker 1: him to play more of a one tech role, I
- 44:18Speaker 1: just I don't think it sets him up for success,
- 44:22Speaker 1: which is another whole talking point about this position group.
- 44:26Speaker 1: But yeah, so I think it really starts with who
- 44:27Speaker 1: the odd man out is. Obviously the Ogen Jobey suspension
- 44:30Speaker 1: changes things, but how does it impact the grouping and
- 44:33Speaker 1: does somebody step up? Who knows? Maybe you know Sanders
- 44:37Speaker 1: balls out his defensive tackle three, and maybe Dwayne Carter
- 44:40Speaker 1: is amazing is defensive tackle four, or Dean Walker is
- 44:42Speaker 1: healthy and good and he's defensive tackle four, and you're like, man,
- 44:45Speaker 1: they don't even need Oguen Joby back, Like where does
- 44:47Speaker 1: he fit in? Maybe you don't even want to mess
- 44:48Speaker 1: things up. Maybe everything clicks and works how they wanted to.
- 44:51Speaker 1: So I do think there are some questions for that
- 44:54Speaker 1: grouping want to go. James says, if Walker is healthy,
- 45:02Speaker 1: he could be the steal of the draft. You know what,
- 45:05Speaker 1: I don't think that's a crazy notion. I just think
- 45:07Speaker 1: if he's healthy, it's such a big variable. I also,
- 45:11Speaker 1: even when he was healthier, in specifically referencing the twenty
- 45:15Speaker 1: twenty three tape before the back injury really consumed him
- 45:17Speaker 1: like it did in twenty twenty four, I didn't love
- 45:20Speaker 1: his tape all that much in twenty twenty three. I
- 45:22Speaker 1: think he plays high again. A lot of it is
- 45:23Speaker 1: due to his size and frame, right, but he's just
- 45:27Speaker 1: he plays high, he gets displaced, and then his thin
- 45:31Speaker 1: frame with the larger upper body doesn't really do him
- 45:35Speaker 1: favors in terms of being able to kind of hold
- 45:37Speaker 1: his ground and not get pushed around. That's also why
- 45:39Speaker 1: I think he needs to change his body composition. I
- 45:41Speaker 1: think it's not just health. I think it's body reshaping
- 45:44Speaker 1: and body recomposition that he needs to undergo and engage in.
- 45:48Speaker 1: But dude's got size and frame, and he moves really
- 45:51Speaker 1: well on his feet. He's light on his feet, which
- 45:53Speaker 1: is both a positive and negative for that position and
- 45:56Speaker 1: a bit of a unicorn. So kind of just wait
- 45:58Speaker 1: and see and hope. Pete says it's the problem that
- 46:02Speaker 1: we're again needing so many defensive alignment to have good
- 46:04Speaker 1: years if they didn't have last year. Not sure how
- 46:06Speaker 1: many hits we can realistically expect from new additions or
- 46:09Speaker 1: improvements internally. I think that's very well said. No notes,
- 46:13Speaker 1: Bob says, look at the roles. Do you take the
- 46:15Speaker 1: cap situation into consideration? The Bills are right around the cap,
- 46:18Speaker 1: if not over, they still need to sign TJ and
- 46:20Speaker 1: have in season operating expenses. I'd take it into consideration
- 46:25Speaker 1: from perspective of adding new players. But they'll be fine.
- 46:27Speaker 1: They're fine from a cap perspective in terms of signing TJ. Sanders,
- 46:31Speaker 1: and then they can always move some stuff around with
- 46:33Speaker 1: relatively ease if they need in season operating expenses. But
- 46:36Speaker 1: I think it's a very good question, Bob, and I
- 46:38Speaker 1: like that. I like that. I like that follow up
- 46:42Speaker 1: from Bob says, do they take a chance of trading
- 46:43Speaker 1: releasing day one Jones or AJ Panessa DAYK one? I
- 46:49Speaker 1: doubt AJ Panessa. I think could if Hoyt wasn't suspended,
- 46:54Speaker 1: or maybe they look to trade him in like week
- 46:56Speaker 1: five or six or four, whenever the trade deadline starts
- 46:59Speaker 1: to fall, and as Hoydt is coming back DAYK one.
- 47:02Speaker 1: I'm gonna say I think it's a very low chance. AJ.
- 47:05Speaker 1: I'm also doubtful of but I do think has a
- 47:07Speaker 1: higher chance than Dake one. I think Day one's like
- 47:09Speaker 1: a five percent chance or much closer to zero. AJ.
- 47:13Speaker 1: I feel like Panessa has maybe like a thirty five
- 47:17Speaker 1: to forty percent chance. Again, Trade maybe thirty thirty to
- 47:20Speaker 1: thirty five percent chance. I'll say, I think that's very fair.
- 47:23Speaker 1: Oh James says, trade deadline is early November. Yep, that's fair.
- 47:26Speaker 1: So Hoyt should have some time to get accustomed to
- 47:28Speaker 1: the team and the lineup, and maybe someone becomes expendable.
- 47:34Speaker 1: I was gonna say expensible. That's not a word expendable
- 47:36Speaker 1: at the edge position or anywhere, and maybe one of
- 47:39Speaker 1: those guys a J. Panessa. Bill says, maybe Walker could
- 47:45Speaker 1: be a great goal line full back. The problem is
- 47:48Speaker 1: he just plays so high, like I can see him
- 47:49Speaker 1: running into the line and standing straight up and if anything,
- 47:51Speaker 1: he's gonna gum up the works for whoever they give
- 47:53Speaker 1: the ball to. But I think will be fun from
- 47:56Speaker 1: a chaos perspective, and because of that, I'm all for it.
- 47:59Speaker 1: Some people just want to watch them. Some men just
- 48:01Speaker 1: want to watch the world burn. The face of Bear
- 48:04Speaker 1: says Baltimore is a problem for everyone. Yeah, I do
- 48:06Speaker 1: think that's fair, but I do think certain teams are
- 48:08Speaker 1: able to combat them better than others, and the Bills are.
- 48:12Speaker 1: They're very much. I think they're more of a problem
- 48:14Speaker 1: for the Bills type of defensive design than they are
- 48:17Speaker 1: for most. But they are. Like I did mention, they
- 48:19Speaker 1: are a problem for pretty much everyone and have been
- 48:22Speaker 1: for years because they're a unicorn type of offense. But
- 48:25Speaker 1: as Lamar has grown, as the weapons have gotten better,
- 48:28Speaker 1: the addition of Tom Munkin is offensive coordinator. Yeah, they
- 48:31Speaker 1: can just put every defense in hell, but particularly from
- 48:35Speaker 1: a ground perspective. Yeah, they're They're not an ideal matchup
- 48:38Speaker 1: for the Bills, but again, they're not an ideal matchup
- 48:40Speaker 1: for most, But I think the Bills more so than others.
- 48:43Speaker 1: Ralph says aj Is Bosa Insurance and John Robertsons. I
- 48:47Speaker 1: read Dwayne will be three tech and one tech that Yeah,
- 48:49Speaker 1: that's a yeah as well. Good comment comment liking for
- 48:53Speaker 1: the chat. Liking it all. Right, So let's go to
- 48:55Speaker 1: We'll stay in the defensive line. Let's go to Edge,
- 48:58Speaker 1: talked about it a bit all in this episode. I
- 49:03Speaker 1: have a similar question at EDGE that I did a
- 49:05Speaker 1: Wide Receiver, and that's the big question for me here.
- 49:07Speaker 1: But just replace COOLU Secure with Greg Russo. So the
- 49:10Speaker 1: big question for me at EDGE is what do they
- 49:13Speaker 1: get from everyone not named Greg Russo? And similar to
- 49:18Speaker 1: Wide Receiver, I think you have question marks down the
- 49:22Speaker 1: depth chart of EDGE. And I'm not going to talk
- 49:24Speaker 1: about Bosa too much because I spent a whole episode
- 49:27Speaker 1: on Bosa when he got injured earlier this month. So
- 49:31Speaker 1: if you want details on that that conversation scheme and
- 49:34Speaker 1: individual skill set and traits, go back into that episode,
- 49:36Speaker 1: not the plug that or be like, hey, go I
- 49:38Speaker 1: already did this, but I just want to bog down
- 49:39Speaker 1: too much of the same kind of conversation I've already had.
- 49:42Speaker 1: But long story short, Ken, Joey Bosa stay healthy. Like
- 49:45Speaker 1: I talked about in that episode, I think the ceiling
- 49:47Speaker 1: of the EDGE grouping is tied to Joey Bosa. It's
- 49:51Speaker 1: there's a possibility that Greg Russo takes another jump and
- 49:54Speaker 1: becomes you know, Edge one. From a pass rush perspective,
- 49:57Speaker 1: I don't think he's there now. I think he he's
- 50:00Speaker 1: one of the best run defending edges and one of
- 50:02Speaker 1: the best run defending defensive linemen in all the football.
- 50:04Speaker 1: But as a pass rusher, I still think he's an
- 50:06Speaker 1: edge two. I think he's more of a Robin that
- 50:08Speaker 1: needs a Batman as a pass rusher, or you know,
- 50:11Speaker 1: a B plus guy or a B guy as a
- 50:14Speaker 1: rusher that needs multiple B pluses around him. Bosa, I
- 50:19Speaker 1: think is I'm talking a bit on both sides of
- 50:22Speaker 1: my mouth here, but Bosa is their best chance to
- 50:25Speaker 1: having a true edge one as a pass rusher. But
- 50:28Speaker 1: he has injury concerns. But even when he's played and
- 50:31Speaker 1: been injured, he's still been productive, so you can kind
- 50:35Speaker 1: of mitigate his snaps a la von Miller. And if
- 50:38Speaker 1: he's healthy, I think he's the edge one as a
- 50:39Speaker 1: pass rusher coming off the edge, and he's going to
- 50:41Speaker 1: be a great fit and well worth the signing. Even
- 50:43Speaker 1: if he's banged up. I still think he will be effective.
- 50:46Speaker 1: I just don't know how much of a true edge
- 50:47Speaker 1: one he's going to be. He's also a good run
- 50:50Speaker 1: defender as an edge, but you don't need that on
- 50:53Speaker 1: this team given Rousseau and Epanessa and Landon Jackson and
- 50:58Speaker 1: Hoyt when he comes back from suspension, and you don't
- 51:01Speaker 1: need more run to defense at the edge spot. You've
- 51:02Speaker 1: already got that in spades on this Bills team. And
- 51:05Speaker 1: with what you need from a pass rush perspective, mitigate
- 51:08Speaker 1: his snaps, mitigate the contact, keep him healthy, keep him fresh.
- 51:11Speaker 1: But I do think he's very important for this team
- 51:13Speaker 1: because he impacts the ceiling of this group. He has
- 51:16Speaker 1: the best chance to be edge one and be the
- 51:19Speaker 1: batman to Rousseau's robin. And if Rousseau does take a
- 51:23Speaker 1: jump and becomes more of a batman himself, then you
- 51:25Speaker 1: have two batman's and that's awesome. So that's Bosa aj Panessa,
- 51:30Speaker 1: I think is the next question, like what is he
- 51:32Speaker 1: built for two years ago? He was very very efficient
- 51:35Speaker 1: as a pass rusher. Last year we saw drops and
- 51:38Speaker 1: pass rush production and efficiency. But he was legitimately, legitimately
- 51:43Speaker 1: a very good run defender last year. What he did
- 51:46Speaker 1: on early downs, what he did schematically and even stats
- 51:48Speaker 1: from a stops perspective and percentage perspective, he was a
- 51:52Speaker 1: good run defender pairing with Greg Russo. But what do
- 51:55Speaker 1: you get from Aja Panessa. Is he early down run defense?
- 51:59Speaker 1: Can he be more of a complete three down type
- 52:01Speaker 1: of edge? Do you get anything from him as a
- 52:03Speaker 1: pass rusher? Does he step up as a pass rusher again,
- 52:07Speaker 1: but take a step back or down as a run defender? Like,
- 52:10Speaker 1: what are you getting from Ajpanessa? And then Landon Jackson rookie?
- 52:14Speaker 1: What are you getting from him? Javon Solomon some flashes
- 52:17Speaker 1: last year, but even though he's going into year two,
- 52:19Speaker 1: he's still pretty much a rookie. He having had a
- 52:20Speaker 1: lot of sample, uh sample size or snapshare for him
- 52:24Speaker 1: to really know what to expect from him. And then
- 52:27Speaker 1: you've got Michael Hoyt who has that six game suspension.
- 52:30Speaker 1: Does his absence open the door for anyone? When he
- 52:34Speaker 1: comes back? What do you get from him? Do they
- 52:37Speaker 1: use him as more of a traditional edge. Do they
- 52:39Speaker 1: use him as more of that spinner role or in
- 52:41Speaker 1: that spinner type of role that the Rams used him
- 52:44Speaker 1: in like the Packers use Clay Matthews him back in
- 52:46Speaker 1: the day, where you know he might be an edge,
- 52:48Speaker 1: he might be an a gap, he might be off ball,
- 52:51Speaker 1: he's dropping into coverage, he's rushing, he's you know, he's
- 52:54Speaker 1: the spiker on stunts and games. He's looping like you
- 52:57Speaker 1: don't know what he's gonna do. Do they use him
- 52:59Speaker 1: that way or do they need to use them as
- 53:01Speaker 1: traditional edge because they're not getting production at that spot.
- 53:04Speaker 1: And in conjunction with Bosa, if Bosa misses time in
- 53:08Speaker 1: the first six games, that opens up the door even
- 53:11Speaker 1: further for someone to step at edge or step up
- 53:13Speaker 1: at edge. Honestly, that's a bit of a nightmare for
- 53:15Speaker 1: me right now, because Heyt's already gone those six games.
- 53:18Speaker 1: If Bosa misses any time, that means you're looking at
- 53:20Speaker 1: a top four of Greg Russo, Aja Panessa, Javon, Solomon
- 53:26Speaker 1: Landa Jackson, Like that's your top four at edge. I
- 53:28Speaker 1: don't think that's good enough to get the job done
- 53:30Speaker 1: early on, Like you need you need more at that spot.
- 53:37Speaker 1: But that all but the question all starts from again,
- 53:41Speaker 1: what do they get from everyone not named Greg Russo?
- 53:44Speaker 1: And for as much as they've addressed this position again,
- 53:49Speaker 1: it's another year going into a season of like have
- 53:55Speaker 1: they do they have the answers at edge? What do
- 53:57Speaker 1: they have at edge? How confident are we in there
- 54:00Speaker 1: in their ability to edge? I will say they're gonna
- 54:03Speaker 1: be good from a run defense standpoint, which is nice.
- 54:06Speaker 1: I just have questions about the pass rush because if
- 54:09Speaker 1: you're not getting it from Bosa, even if you get
- 54:10Speaker 1: it from Rousseau, who else are you getting it from
- 54:12Speaker 1: in those first six games, Like there's just if Bosa
- 54:16Speaker 1: misses time, you're really banking on Rousseau taking a jump,
- 54:21Speaker 1: or at Panessa getting back to what he was in
- 54:23Speaker 1: twenty twenty three as a rusher, or you're hoping that
- 54:26Speaker 1: Landon Jackson can be something. You're hoping that Javon Solomon
- 54:29Speaker 1: can be something. There's just, as I keep speaking to
- 54:31Speaker 1: a lot, of the word I keep using is hope,
- 54:32Speaker 1: and you're just hoping and hoping, and it's just for
- 54:37Speaker 1: such a premium position like edge, and how important that
- 54:40Speaker 1: position is as a whole. Ver's both the run in
- 54:42Speaker 1: the past, but the questions that they have a pass
- 54:44Speaker 1: against the past as rushers, you would like more of
- 54:47Speaker 1: a known quantity and more answers, and they just again
- 54:50Speaker 1: for another season, don't have It seems like they have
- 54:52Speaker 1: more questions than answers that edge again for another season,
- 54:56Speaker 1: which feels like a recurring theme for this team. Oh,
- 55:00Speaker 1: I didn't mean for that to rhyme, but it did
- 55:01Speaker 1: look at that. Bob says, Baltimore is to Buffalo as
- 55:05Speaker 1: Buffalo is the k C during the playoffs. Oh yeah,
- 55:11Speaker 1: that might be fair. Yeah, and but you know it's
- 55:13Speaker 1: such tough too, just like the Bills of the Chiefs,
- 55:15Speaker 1: Like both times Baltimore lost to the Bills in the playoffs,
- 55:17Speaker 1: like they honestly could have easily won both games, just
- 55:20Speaker 1: like the Bills could have won multiple games against Kansasity
- 55:23Speaker 1: in the playoffs. Yeah, that's very frustrating. I think Baltimore
- 55:26Speaker 1: is to Baltimore in the playoffs like Case is to
- 55:28Speaker 1: Buffalo in the playoffs, meaning like Baltimore is their own
- 55:31Speaker 1: like the Chiefs have been the Bills Kryptnit in the playoffs.
- 55:34Speaker 1: I think Baltimore is their own crypt Night Like Baltimore
- 55:37Speaker 1: just finds a way to screw themselves, like every playoff
- 55:40Speaker 1: against going back to when they first started it with
- 55:42Speaker 1: the horrible performance against Tennessee and then against some of
- 55:45Speaker 1: Kansas City stuff with the Bills, they just can't seem
- 55:47Speaker 1: to put it all together consistently for one run, no
- 55:51Speaker 1: matter how good they Maybe Bill says Russo is a
- 55:55Speaker 1: night Wing. Maybe Solomon could be a bat might Oh wait,
- 55:58Speaker 1: are you ranking night Wing head of Robin. I don't
- 56:01Speaker 1: know if this is more of a compliment for Russo
- 56:02Speaker 1: and you're saying that he's lesser than Robin or above,
- 56:05Speaker 1: I'm not ready. I mean, night Wing is sick, so
- 56:06Speaker 1: I would take night Wing over Robin, so I would
- 56:08Speaker 1: take this as a compliment. But I just want to
- 56:10Speaker 1: make sure. But I like where your head's at. Well done, Bill, Yes,
- 56:13Speaker 1: the rookies have to contribute absolutely. As James says here, Oh,
- 56:16Speaker 1: I appreciate you, John, John says like and share and
- 56:18Speaker 1: subscribe if on YouTube. Thank you very much for that, John. Yes,
- 56:21Speaker 1: if you are joining me here live in this episode
- 56:22Speaker 1: and you're enjoying this conversation or this content, or if
- 56:25Speaker 1: you're joining all the nice hot weather that's finally hit Buffalo,
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- 56:31Speaker 1: drop ake here on YouTube, share, subscribe, word of mouth,
- 56:35Speaker 1: all that kind of stuff. I appreciate you for that, John,
- 56:37Speaker 1: Thank you very much. I've moved from edge. Let's go
- 56:41Speaker 1: to safety, which again a position I've talked about a
- 56:46Speaker 1: little bit. Sorry, I'm about to cough. Who if you.
- 56:51Speaker 1: Last episode, I started coughing like crazy the end. I
- 56:53Speaker 1: don't know what about this one again too. Maybe it's
- 56:55Speaker 1: the weather change. I don't know. Safety two questions, one
- 56:59Speaker 1: of them significant, more important than the other, and I
- 57:00Speaker 1: think it's the big question. I think it's a legitimate
- 57:03Speaker 1: question to ask who wins the starting safety spots. We've
- 57:05Speaker 1: talked about it a bit on the show. I think
- 57:08Speaker 1: they wanted to be Bishop and rap I'm not gonna
- 57:12Speaker 1: do too much of the dialogue on this because they've
- 57:15Speaker 1: done it before. I just don't we've talked about on
- 57:17Speaker 1: the show. I don't think Bishop and Rapper an ideal pair,
- 57:22Speaker 1: even though I would like that to be the starting
- 57:24Speaker 1: safety group in an ideal world for me, I think
- 57:26Speaker 1: the starting safety group is Forest and Bishop. I still
- 57:33Speaker 1: don't like Cole Bishop's fit in this Bill's defense. I
- 57:36Speaker 1: didn't like it when they drafted him. I thought he
- 57:37Speaker 1: was gonna need more time on task than was initially
- 57:40Speaker 1: anticipated or thought by most folks. I still think he'd
- 57:43Speaker 1: be a better fit for like the Patriots defense last year,
- 57:45Speaker 1: the Ravens defense, or the Cardinals defenses that use three safeties.
- 57:50Speaker 1: Defenses where Cole Bishop can be in the box as
- 57:54Speaker 1: a nickel defender, as an off ball linebacker, as an apex,
- 57:56Speaker 1: playing in and around the box, in and around the underneath,
- 57:59Speaker 1: the low intermediate to the intermediate itself, and just allowing
- 58:02Speaker 1: him to match up on tight ends. Running backs play,
- 58:05Speaker 1: you know, sideline to numbers, hashed to sideline, and in
- 58:08Speaker 1: and around the box as much as possible. The Bill's defense,
- 58:11Speaker 1: you're not gonna get that much because they disguise looks.
- 58:13Speaker 1: They like to play a lot of two high coverages.
- 58:14Speaker 1: You got to play away from the line of scrimmage.
- 58:16Speaker 1: You got to process accordingly. I don't think he's there yet.
- 58:19Speaker 1: Maybe he will be after a full offseason and more
- 58:21Speaker 1: time on task. Hopefully he doesn't get banged up like
- 58:24Speaker 1: he did last year, and then Taylor Rapp is their
- 58:28Speaker 1: best safety from a processing and envisioning standpoint. The further
- 58:31Speaker 1: way he gets from the line of scrimmage, he just
- 58:33Speaker 1: doesn't have the juice and the athleticism, the range to
- 58:35Speaker 1: function in a lot of ways that you like. Forrest
- 58:38Speaker 1: is kind of the best combination of everything. He's got
- 58:40Speaker 1: some athleticism, he's got some vision, he's got some processing.
- 58:43Speaker 1: He can tackle a bit, he can do some different
- 58:45Speaker 1: coverage things single high, too highsome man. Then you've got
- 58:49Speaker 1: to more Hamlin, who is just reliable and responsible in
- 58:52Speaker 1: a lot of forms and factions, fas fast sets, soul
- 58:55Speaker 1: falling apart. I don't hate the idea of tomorrow Hamlin starting,
- 58:59Speaker 1: but I really don't want to see it, like I
- 59:01Speaker 1: would much prefer him to be Safety four and not
- 59:04Speaker 1: really see the field, like I would take pretty much
- 59:06Speaker 1: any other safety combo that doesn't involve him. No disrespect,
- 59:11Speaker 1: Give me Bishop and Rap, Give me Bishop and Forest,
- 59:14Speaker 1: Give me Forest and Rap, give me any of those
- 59:16Speaker 1: before I get DeMar Hamlin again, no disrespect to him.
- 59:20Speaker 1: And so then who wins the starting spots? And then
- 59:22Speaker 1: by extension who wins the depth spots? And within that
- 59:26Speaker 1: is DeMar Hamlin a lock to make this team. Does
- 59:29Speaker 1: Jordan Hancock, the rookie from Ohio State? Does he make
- 59:32Speaker 1: some noise at safety? Do they see him more as
- 59:34Speaker 1: a you know, more of a Nickel? Can they use
- 59:37Speaker 1: him to maximize some roster spots? And can he be
- 59:41Speaker 1: like Nickel two safety for special team value, some kind
- 59:49Speaker 1: of something somewhere type of guy who can wear a
- 59:51Speaker 1: jack of you know, a jack of all trades and
- 59:52Speaker 1: wear a bunch of hats and save them some roster
- 59:54Speaker 1: spots or versatility. You know, I'm very interested to see
- 59:58Speaker 1: and then even funk within that factoring than that too,
- 1:00:00Speaker 1: and this more than Nickel discussion tying into safety cam Lewis, like,
- 1:00:04Speaker 1: is cam Lewis making this roster again as the backup Nickel?
- 1:00:06Speaker 1: We also know he can play some safety. We also
- 1:00:08Speaker 1: know he has some special teams. Value safety is an
- 1:00:11Speaker 1: interesting one, but it really starts with who wins the
- 1:00:14Speaker 1: starting safety spots. And I just again, I think they
- 1:00:18Speaker 1: want it to be rapping Bishop. I think it will
- 1:00:20Speaker 1: be raping Bishop, but I wouldn't be surprised if Derek
- 1:00:23Speaker 1: Forest makes some noise. And I still don't just like
- 1:00:27Speaker 1: the I don't like the pairing of I don't like
- 1:00:29Speaker 1: bishops fit in this defense, and I still have questions
- 1:00:31Speaker 1: about it. That doesn't mean he can't grow to be
- 1:00:33Speaker 1: a fit with the right time on task and development.
- 1:00:36Speaker 1: I just I would prefer I would have preferred other
- 1:00:39Speaker 1: guys in that draft, prefer other options or trajectories, I
- 1:00:41Speaker 1: should say, in terms of that development and fit. But
- 1:00:45Speaker 1: I like him as an individual player and with his
- 1:00:47Speaker 1: skill set. I don't think he's a great pairing with Rap,
- 1:00:51Speaker 1: considering rap skill set and his traits and his functionality.
- 1:00:56Speaker 1: It's just and it's super annoying to have this conversation
- 1:00:59Speaker 1: with the safety grouping after having years of just being
- 1:01:01Speaker 1: spoiled with Hide and Poyer and you know, doing away
- 1:01:05Speaker 1: with the free and strong labels. Although Poyer was geared
- 1:01:08Speaker 1: more towards strong and Hide was geared more towards free.
- 1:01:11Speaker 1: But you just both of them could play split coverages.
- 1:01:14Speaker 1: Both of them could play single high. They each could
- 1:01:16Speaker 1: play in around the box. You could blitz them. They
- 1:01:17Speaker 1: could play in the slot. You could play buzz, you
- 1:01:19Speaker 1: could play sky. You can have them covered the flats
- 1:01:21Speaker 1: like you could play match. You could play man, you
- 1:01:23Speaker 1: could play spot drop just man. Yeah, it's a it's
- 1:01:27Speaker 1: a save. The safety position is frustrating for me and
- 1:01:32Speaker 1: I want Cole Bishop to live in and around the
- 1:01:34Speaker 1: box as a defender, like playing top down. What that
- 1:01:38Speaker 1: means that Taylor Rap is going to be your single
- 1:01:41Speaker 1: high post safety a lot of times, and I don't
- 1:01:43Speaker 1: think that makes sense for you like it. Derek Forrest
- 1:01:46Speaker 1: is a better single high post safety than Taylor Rap.
- 1:01:48Speaker 1: So it's just it's a. It's a frustrating spot for
- 1:01:54Speaker 1: for me, I should say, to talk about the safety grouping.
- 1:01:56Speaker 1: I'm a defense guy. I love coverages and talking that
- 1:02:01Speaker 1: and breaking down that aspect of the game. And h
- 1:02:06Speaker 1: and James says, but we have the safety whisper with
- 1:02:08Speaker 1: the laughing of motion. That's fair, you know, and and
- 1:02:10Speaker 1: that's it too, right, Like Sean McDermott and this coaching
- 1:02:12Speaker 1: staff have always gotten so much blood out of the
- 1:02:15Speaker 1: dB stone at both corner and safety. So if there
- 1:02:19Speaker 1: was any coaching staff or coach to get the most
- 1:02:21Speaker 1: out of guys at that spot and raise floors and
- 1:02:24Speaker 1: raise ceilings, it is McDermott and in this staff. But man,
- 1:02:27Speaker 1: I just I'm just not excited about the safety position.
- 1:02:31Speaker 1: I think I think they'll end up being fine, but
- 1:02:34Speaker 1: I do have concerns from a schematic perspective and just
- 1:02:37Speaker 1: how you pigeonhole yourself, Like do teams know like, well
- 1:02:39Speaker 1: they can't really go single high or we wanted to
- 1:02:41Speaker 1: get single high because we know we could win. Or
- 1:02:44Speaker 1: are you confident going single high for the bills and
- 1:02:46Speaker 1: you don't care who the single You know, the post
- 1:02:47Speaker 1: safety is in the single high look because Harriston and
- 1:02:51Speaker 1: Benford are going to be locked down on the outside.
- 1:02:53Speaker 1: Maybe that's what the thought is. That does allow you
- 1:02:55Speaker 1: to do some different things from a coverage perspective, if
- 1:02:57Speaker 1: your corners can live on islands and and you can
- 1:03:00Speaker 1: start to weaponizeer safety is a little bit more and
- 1:03:02Speaker 1: or mitigate their deficiencies. So I do think that is
- 1:03:06Speaker 1: a fair point. But we will see put up the
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- 1:05:02Speaker 1: do some catering stuff. You know, it's summertime. Maybe there's
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- 1:07:24Speaker 1: tune in. And oh, we got this question real quick
- 1:07:27Speaker 1: from Bill. Bill says, if Max and Benford lockdown, what
- 1:07:30Speaker 1: is the safety concept called that is neither single high
- 1:07:33Speaker 1: nor split? Is that cover zero regardless of blitzing, Cover
- 1:07:36Speaker 1: zero usually is attached to a blitch. Cover zero just
- 1:07:38Speaker 1: essentially means there is no safety help on the back end.
- 1:07:42Speaker 1: Everybody is in man coverage. You have no help over
- 1:07:45Speaker 1: the top. Usually it's a company with the blitz. Brian
- 1:07:47Speaker 1: Flores for the Vikings uses a ton of oh my god,
- 1:07:53Speaker 1: what cover zero blitz is? He did the same thing
- 1:07:56Speaker 1: in Miami. But essentially cover zero is you know what
- 1:08:00Speaker 1: structure is on the back end. It just means you
- 1:08:02Speaker 1: have no safety help over the top. So everybody essentially
- 1:08:05Speaker 1: is kind of on an island in some form or
- 1:08:07Speaker 1: fashion with no help over the top. Cover one means
- 1:08:10Speaker 1: you have you know, one safety back there. Cover two
- 1:08:12Speaker 1: means you have two safeties back there. Cover four references
- 1:08:15Speaker 1: you know, the two corners on the outside, the two
- 1:08:17Speaker 1: safeties over the top kind of functioning as the four
- 1:08:21Speaker 1: on the back end. Cover three means you have a
- 1:08:23Speaker 1: single high safety, two corners dropping deep on the outside.
- 1:08:27Speaker 1: Those all referred to kind of the deep help that
- 1:08:29Speaker 1: you have. So cover zero means you have no help
- 1:08:31Speaker 1: over the top. There's nothing. Oh appreciate that, good question, Bill,
- 1:08:36Speaker 1: and thank you for everybody who was tuned in live
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