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BIG Trade Q&A Inside Scoop with Ken Rosenthal: Skubal, Joe Ryan, Alcántara, White Sox, Braves & more · Foul Territory

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Speaker 1: It's the Inside Scoop with FT senior insider Ken Rosenthal.
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Speaker 1: Ken aj is out this week, so we are going
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Speaker 1: to talk about the White Sox. Yes, the White Sox
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Speaker 1: with a big win over the Guardians, and it starts
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Speaker 1: to get us thinking, can this team actually do a
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Speaker 1: little bit of adding at the trade deadline to show
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Speaker 1: some signs of life that they care about this year's
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Speaker 1: playoff run without sacrificing too much of the future. Where
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Speaker 1: do you think they stand if they're basically here a
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Speaker 1: month from now.
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Speaker 2: Scott, I would think that is exactly where they stand.
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Speaker 2: We'll try to improve the club, but without sacrificing too
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Speaker 2: much of the future because they are still pointing toward
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Speaker 2: a more sustainable future, which all teams, of course are
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Speaker 2: always pointing toward. So yeah, I expect them, if they're
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Speaker 2: in this position to add, and pitching clearly would be
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Speaker 2: the focus. Bullpen. We saw Sir Anthony de Mingez blow
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Speaker 2: the save last night. That's one area. Starting pitching would
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Speaker 2: be another. It's so interesting to me, the Cardinals, the
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Speaker 2: White Sox, the Nationals, three teams that never thought they
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Speaker 2: would be anywhere near playoff position, or at least didn't
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Speaker 2: anticipate that, and here they are and they're going to
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Speaker 2: have to readjust their sites. And that's not a bad thing,
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Speaker 2: that's a good thing. And winning is precious. You don't
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Speaker 2: always get the chance to do that, and making the
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Speaker 2: playoffs is precious. So I would expect in each case
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Speaker 2: those teams, if they are in this position in six weeks,
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Speaker 2: and remember we're still six weeks away, they're gonna look
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Speaker 2: at this and say, Okay, let's see if we can
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Speaker 2: enhance this, keep it going, but without of course trading
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Speaker 2: top prospects.
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Speaker 3: Do you think Chris Getz needs more experience in the
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Speaker 3: trade deadline. I'm not saying you can get it any
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Speaker 3: other way than just enjoy or being in it, but
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Speaker 3: to actually trade and make these moves we saw with
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Speaker 3: Michael Lias. Just some gms can make teams play well,
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Speaker 3: but then the trade deadline can be a little bit hairy.
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Speaker 2: Well, you're right, that certainly has been the case with
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Speaker 2: Elias in the past. But that doesn't mean Chris gets
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Speaker 2: is incapable of doing this. And certainly you're right he
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Speaker 2: is eric a first time GM, so he's by definition
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Speaker 2: inexperienced at the deadline, or at least in this aspect
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Speaker 2: of the deadline. He's done it the other way as
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Speaker 2: a seller. So yes, it's a concern, But at the
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Speaker 2: same time, that's what these guys live for, It's what
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Speaker 2: fans live for. They want to see their team in it.
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Speaker 2: They want to see their team play meaningful games in September,
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Speaker 2: and the White Sox have a chance to do that.
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Speaker 2: So Chris Gets, I would imagine, without having asked him
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Speaker 2: this specifically, is rather excited about the possibility of being
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Speaker 2: a buyer, which he did not anticipate necessarily at the
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Speaker 2: start of the season.
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Speaker 3: I mean, if you don't anticipate the start of season,
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Speaker 3: maybe he doesn't have enough. Is there any issue with
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Speaker 3: money as far as like, can they add that piece?
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Speaker 3: I'm not saying they're adding Schooble, but is there a
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Speaker 3: White Sox issue with money? Because we've heard it before
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Speaker 3: with Jerry he's not willing to spend in free agency.
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Speaker 2: There shouldn't be an issue. The payroll is not exactly
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Speaker 2: over three hundred million, it's not even over two hundred million,
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Speaker 2: so they should have plenty to spend. And yes, Ryans
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Speaker 2: dwarf can be I don't know the word I want
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Speaker 2: to use exactly, but typefisted with the money. But at
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Speaker 2: the same time, there have been times throughout their history
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Speaker 2: under him where he has spent when he felt there
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Speaker 2: was an opportunity to win, and I would think at
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Speaker 2: his age, given these opportunities are fleeting, he is not
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Speaker 2: going to let money stand in the way here, and
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Speaker 2: Schooble would be an outlier for them. It's not necessarily
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Speaker 2: a logical thing to trade top prospects for a rental
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Speaker 2: in the white sox position. But if it's i don't know,
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Speaker 2: a three million dollar, four million dollar, five million dollar edition,
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Speaker 2: I don't see why they wouldn't do that. But again,
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Speaker 2: I'm not the owner of the team, and I'm not
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Speaker 2: inside Jerry Reinsdorf's head.
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Speaker 3: Or in his wallet, which might need a little bit
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Speaker 3: might need a little extra help. You just mentioned Scooble,
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Speaker 3: and we talked about to Bob Nightingale yesterday about him
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Speaker 3: the Braves possibly being a sleeper team. Can you expand
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Speaker 3: on that at all or the other front runners that
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Speaker 3: you're hearing or surmising well?
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Speaker 2: I wrote last week Eric that the most likely teams,
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Speaker 2: not the only teams, but the most likely teams to
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Speaker 2: do this would be the teams that are in position
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Speaker 2: to get a bye bypass the first round play a
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Speaker 2: weaker opponent or at least one that has been expended
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Speaker 2: in the next round, the first round the division series.
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Speaker 2: For those teams, the Braves are in that position, and
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Speaker 2: the Braves are a team also with starting pitching questions,
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Speaker 2: They've had them going back to the spring for a
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Speaker 2: couple of months. There they were doing just great with
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Speaker 2: their starting pitching. And now you're starting to see some
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Speaker 2: thing happen that are troublesome. Spencer Stryder gets hurt, Price
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Speaker 2: Elders slowing down. It doesn't look quite as attractive as
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Speaker 2: it did. So why wouldn't the Braves be involved? A
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Speaker 2: few weeks ago, might have been on this show, might
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Speaker 2: have been on my own show, The Fair Territory Show.
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Speaker 2: I mentioned the Brave system is not highly rated, and
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Speaker 2: it isn't highly rated by people who do those kinds
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Speaker 2: of things in the media, and then a fan jumped
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Speaker 2: me and said, you're wrong, our system's really good. I
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Speaker 2: hear this all the time from fans, but I actually checked,
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Speaker 2: and the Braves see their system as pretty darn good
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Speaker 2: right now, and better than the ratings indicate. The public ratings.
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Speaker 2: So do they have the potential to make that kind
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Speaker 2: of trade. They believe they do, at least in terms
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Speaker 2: of being having the players available. Now do they want
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Speaker 2: to take on the money, Do they want to make
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Speaker 2: that kind of trade for a rental all of that
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Speaker 2: That remains to be seen. But there is no reason
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Speaker 2: to believe the Braves would not be in this mix.
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Speaker 2: And while Alexanderopolis that President Base Operations, hasn't made this
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Speaker 2: particular kind of deal in his tenure with the Braves,
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Speaker 2: he sure did in twenty fifteen with David Price and
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Speaker 2: getting him for the Toronto Blue Jayskrats.
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Speaker 1: for details. Hey, Ken, I want to ask you a
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Speaker 1: follow up on Scooble and the asking price. There's been
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Speaker 1: a lot of debate about what that could look like.
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Speaker 1: How much would get discounted Based on this just being
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Speaker 1: only a half season, Like you mentioned, it could rule
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Speaker 1: out some teams like the White Sox. Are the Cardinals
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Speaker 1: even if they're in the wildcard mix going to trade
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Speaker 1: a lot to get Scooble. So curious because once the
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Speaker 1: market shrinks teams, and I know there'll still be plenty
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Speaker 1: of teams, it does change the asking price because the
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Speaker 1: bidding changes. So anyway, just curious for your take on
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Speaker 1: how multiple layers could tweak what this looks like.
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Speaker 2: First of all, it's the acquisition costs that will deter
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Speaker 2: some teams and compel them to offer less. Then you
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Speaker 2: might think Terrek Scouble would be worth assuming he is
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Speaker 2: healthy and pitching well. With the deadline, we can't necessarily
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Speaker 2: assume that we need to see that play out. But
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Speaker 2: if he becomes available, you're looking at two things. You're
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Speaker 2: looking at a price in terms of salary nearly ten
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Speaker 2: million for the rest of the season. That's one thing
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Speaker 2: that will take some teams out of the equation right
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Speaker 2: then and there. You're also looking at a prospect cost.
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Speaker 2: And I'm sure Tiger's President Base Operations Scott Harris, is
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Speaker 2: going to drive a hard bargain, as he should if
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Speaker 2: he is indeed willing to trade Trek Schouble. So the
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Speaker 2: two things combined, the prospect price, the salary that you're
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Speaker 2: taking on, the total acquisition costs that can depress the price.
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Speaker 2: The other side of this is it's Trek Schouble back
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Speaker 2: to back American League, say young winner. If he is
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Speaker 2: performing at the peak of his powers. He is the
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Speaker 2: kind of guy who can take a team that is
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Speaker 2: really good and make it into a World Series champion
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Speaker 2: that is worth the price. And again, we don't know
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Speaker 2: how this is all going to play out yet. We
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Speaker 2: don't know if the Tigers, who are surging at the
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Speaker 2: moment are going to be in the state of mind
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Speaker 2: where they're not even willing to trade Tarrek Scuobel. I
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Speaker 2: am sure they'll listen. They have to listen. But if
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Speaker 2: they are I don't know, five hundred at the deadline
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Speaker 2: and two games out in the wild card race or
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Speaker 2: even better position in the division, whatever the case might be,
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Speaker 2: they're gonna think twice. I don't know that that's going
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Speaker 2: to happen, and I don't know that they can keep
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Speaker 2: playing like this the rest of the year. But these
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Speaker 2: various different parts of the equation are all going to
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Speaker 2: be factored into the mix.
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Speaker 3: One last thing with Scooble, and maybe you don't know this,
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Speaker 3: but I when you're just talking there, I was thinking
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Speaker 3: about Shoho Tani and putting butts in the seats when
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Speaker 3: he was at the Angels, and Artie Mourno's a different cat.
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Speaker 3: I get that. Is there a case where the front office,
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Speaker 3: even ownership with the Tiger says no, no, no, no, we
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Speaker 3: got to make sure we get seven more starts, even
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Speaker 3: if we're out of it, where we were to keep
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Speaker 3: Trek Scruber because he is beloved in the city of Detroit,
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Speaker 3: I would.
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Speaker 2: Think eric that comes into play, But more of what
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Speaker 2: comes into play are the team's chances and if they believe, hey,
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Speaker 2: we made it to the playoffs the last two years.
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Speaker 2: Last year we nearly made it to the ALCS, came
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Speaker 2: really close. We have Trek Scoogle, our team has finally
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Speaker 2: straightened out. If all of this happens, then you're looking
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Speaker 2: at that part of it and taking one last chance
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Speaker 2: with Schoogle before you lose him to free agency for
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Speaker 2: only a draft pick. And that is the cost benefit
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Speaker 2: analysis the Tigers are going to have to pursue and
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Speaker 2: embark upon, because it's not an easy answer if they
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Speaker 2: are even close to being in contention. If they're out
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Speaker 2: of it, easy answer, you trade him. But if there's
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Speaker 2: a chance of making the playoffs and maybe even winning
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Speaker 2: the division, yeah, at that point you look at it
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Speaker 2: and you look at it differently. I'm just not sure
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Speaker 2: if the Tigers look at this realistically and if they
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Speaker 2: look at their team, assuming the surge doesn't continue and
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Speaker 2: they kind of level off again that they're going to say,
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Speaker 2: you know what, we have a chance to win the
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Speaker 2: World Series even with school, but I'm not sure they
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Speaker 2: can see themselves that way. If they end up seeing
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Speaker 2: themselves that way, then sure you keep him. And part
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Speaker 2: of it does come to the realization that you don't
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Speaker 2: want your fans to be alienated by a trade with
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Speaker 2: a team in contention like that when you've come close twice.
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Speaker 3: Now with Ark Schoogle, that's why they came close. Yes,
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Speaker 3: but let's go to another Dave Dombrowski team, the team
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Speaker 3: he's with currently, the Phillies. Where is this where is
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Speaker 3: this deadline gonna go? In the sense of of Dombrowski
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Speaker 3: being aggressive? We know he's aggressive. We've asked that and
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Speaker 3: he's answered every time. Is it a case where you
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Speaker 3: could trade for a major piece with a hurt aidan
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Speaker 3: miller with a beleaguered farm system that had you know,
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Speaker 3: he was their top guy or one of their top guys.
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Speaker 3: Could they delve that deep into their prospects or is
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Speaker 3: there another route that the Phillies will need to take.
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Speaker 2: It's a good question, Eric, and their system is not
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Speaker 2: considered to be that great, right now, and yes, Aiden
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Speaker 2: Miller is hurt. He's actually a player that might have
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Speaker 2: contributed to them this year if he was healthy. So
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Speaker 2: I don't know that they have the prospects necessarily to
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Speaker 2: get Schooble. But we talk about this kind of thing
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Speaker 2: all the time. This team doesn't have the players, and
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Speaker 2: yet a team like the Padres, we say that about
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Speaker 2: them all the time, they seem to come up with players.
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Speaker 2: For the Phillies. They're in an interesting spot because they're
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Speaker 2: already over the luxury tax threshold, the highest one, and
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Speaker 2: they are a team that clear because of their age
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Speaker 2: and because of Dombrowski's past dealings. Our team that's going
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Speaker 2: to be aggressive. They're going to try to press the
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Speaker 2: issue a little bit with whatever they do. So I
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Speaker 2: would expect they will be active. And remember last year
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Speaker 2: Dombrowski went out and got Duran best reliever available. I
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Speaker 2: don't know that they can duplicate that with the right
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Speaker 2: handed hitting bat that they need. I don't know if
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Speaker 2: that there is going to be a guy out there
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Speaker 2: like that. Scooble is an interesting question for me if
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Speaker 2: he becomes available with them, because Dombrowski loves hard throwers
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Speaker 2: and can you imagine that rotation Wheeler, Sanchez, Scooble not
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Speaker 2: necessarily in this order, plus hazus Lozardo. I mean that
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Speaker 2: is a potentially World Series championship rotation. So maybe you
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Speaker 2: do some other things to get prospects. Maybe you trade
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Speaker 2: one of your younger hitters, like a Bomb or a
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Speaker 2: Stot and redo the team in that fashion. I don't know,
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Speaker 2: but Dave Dombrowski generally speaking, is yes, very aggressive, and
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Speaker 2: I expect him to be that way again.
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Speaker 3: The China is now, the timing is now for the Twins.
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Speaker 3: The Twins are two I think two games out of
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Speaker 3: the Wildcard. They lost last night, so I might be
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Speaker 3: off on that, but don't quote me either way. The
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Speaker 3: Twins are in. It Is there a chance they still
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Speaker 3: trade Joe Ryan because I feel like with his control,
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Speaker 3: our team control, and his ability, he could be a
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Speaker 3: major piece to a team.
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Speaker 2: They're an interesting club because they have played better than
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Speaker 2: most of us expected, and their new head of the
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Speaker 2: operation not Baseball Operations, but the guy who was running
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Speaker 2: the show, Tom poll Out, has basically said wants to
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Speaker 2: contend and wants to win. So if that's the case,
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Speaker 2: you're not going to go in the direction that you
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Speaker 2: went last year, especially if you maintain this position in
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Speaker 2: the al Central and in the wildcard standings. Yes, they
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Speaker 2: are fairly close. They're still under five hundred. They're not great,
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Speaker 2: but they've played better than a lot of us thought,
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Speaker 2: pitch better than a lot of us thought, especially after
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Speaker 2: trading their entire bullpen last year. So it's too early
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Speaker 2: to know what they'll do with Joe Ryan, and I
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Speaker 2: know your next question is going to be about Buxton.
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Speaker 2: I would read Dan Hayes's article in The Athletic last week,
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Speaker 2: in which Buxton was very clear again saying I'm a twin. Now.
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Speaker 2: Might that change if they trade Ryan and Ryan Jeffers
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Speaker 2: and they tell Byron Buxton, listen how it's going to
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Speaker 2: be a few years we're rebuilding. I guess it's not
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Speaker 2: out of the realm of possibility, but that does not
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Speaker 2: seem to be the direction Tom Pohlad wants to take this.
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Speaker 2: So I would say Byron Buxton stays.
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Speaker 1: that we didn't necessarily think could be buying it the
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Speaker 1: trade deadline, but right now they are trending that way.
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Speaker 1: The Miami Marlins so there's this is a two parter,
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Speaker 1: and I'm bringing this up right now too, because we've
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Speaker 1: it on. So Marlins was the next one. They came up.
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Speaker 1: Two party here for you, Ken one. Do they actually buy? Two?
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Speaker 1: How does this affect Sandy el Contra's future with the team?
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Speaker 2: Let me start with our Contra because this is not
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Speaker 2: your everyday pitcher that you trade the deadline because he
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Speaker 2: has another year on his contract and it's big money
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Speaker 2: and that's the time to act. He means a lot
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Speaker 2: to that organization, and the owner loves him, the GM
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Speaker 2: the front office love him, the players love him. He
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Speaker 2: is kind of their heart and soul. So when you're
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Speaker 2: trading him, you're not just trading one of your best
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Speaker 2: starting pitchers, which of course he is. You're also trading
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Speaker 2: a guy who means a lot to the franchise. They've
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Speaker 2: been reluctant to do that in the past. Given the
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Speaker 2: way they're playing, and they too have been hot in June,
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Speaker 2: I would think they're going to be reluctant to do
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Speaker 2: that again. And then it gets to your next question, Scott,
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Speaker 2: would they actually buy? Certainly they have the ability to
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Speaker 2: increase their payroll. It's one of the lowest in the game,
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Speaker 2: and certainly they can certain look at some things and determine, okay,
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Speaker 2: we can use some help here there and do along
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Speaker 2: those lines. But we will see if their president based operations,
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Speaker 2: Peter Bendix is willing to trade younger players to get
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Speaker 2: present day help, and we have not seen them do that.
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Speaker 2: You asked me about Chris Getz earlier. Can he do that?
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Speaker 2: We don't know if Peter Bendix can do it, because
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Speaker 2: he really hasn't done it in a meaningful way. And
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Speaker 2: that will be a test for them, and it will
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Speaker 2: be a test for not just Bendix, but ownership as well,
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Speaker 2: what they're willing to take on. I would think, given
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Speaker 2: what they've done, and given that Clayton mccallaugh has really
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Speaker 2: done a fantastic job with that organization as manager, and
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Speaker 2: with Otto Lopez and Liam Hicks who's now injured I know,
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Speaker 2: and Xavier Edwards becoming a player, Max Meyer having a
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Speaker 2: real breakout year, some really good things are happening there.
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Speaker 2: I would think you'd want to continue enhancing that rather
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Speaker 2: than even mildly tear it apart.
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Speaker 3: Is there any chance the Nats fall a little bit
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Speaker 3: more out of it, because they're clearly in contention that CJ.
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Speaker 3: Abrams possibly gets moved because we heard about it earlier
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Speaker 3: in the off season.
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Speaker 2: Oh there's a chance for sure, and especially if they
19:17
Speaker 2: fall out of it or at least slow down and
19:20
Speaker 2: start playing not as well. But Abrams is a little
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Speaker 2: bit tough because most teams do not view him as
19:28
Speaker 2: a quality defensive shortstop, so you're looking at a guy
19:31
Speaker 2: that you would want to change positions. Doing that in
19:34
Speaker 2: the middle of the season is dicey. A few teams
19:37
Speaker 2: will need a shortstop. Actually creating a position player in
19:40
Speaker 2: general is always difficult because unlike with a pitcher, you
19:43
Speaker 2: can just plug the pitcher, in a position player, you
19:46
Speaker 2: have to have that spot and you have to make
19:48
Speaker 2: room for him. In that sense, easier to do in
19:51
Speaker 2: the offseason. And my suspicion is that is when the
19:54
Speaker 2: Nationals would do this, if they do it at all.
19:57
Speaker 2: What we should be talking about with the Nationals, if
19:59
Speaker 2: they CJ. Abrams as a cornerstone player, even if he's
20:02
Speaker 2: not a shortstop long term is an extension. And of
20:06
Speaker 2: course we don't ever hear that kind of talk from
20:08
Speaker 2: the Nationals. I know they went after him on an
20:11
Speaker 2: extension maybe the spring before last, but the offer wasn't there.
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Speaker 2: So I would suspect that Abram stays, but maybe becomes
20:21
Speaker 2: a more realistic possibility in the offseason.
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Speaker 1: Ken, last one from a fan asking about your thoughts
20:28
Speaker 1: on the Brewers. I think it's timely since Brandon Woodruff
20:30
Speaker 1: looked so good on his way back, and you feel like, hey,
20:33
Speaker 1: this could be the rotation that can carry them. I'm
20:35
Speaker 1: less concerned about that, Ken, and I just can't get
20:38
Speaker 1: the image of last year's knockout for them against the
20:42
Speaker 1: Dodgers out of my head, where you feel like you've
20:44
Speaker 1: got it, You've got more young prospects coming up, but really,
20:47
Speaker 1: the bats weren't there, and maybe no bat could solve
20:49
Speaker 1: what the Dodgers pitching had in that particular round in
20:53
Speaker 1: the NLCS. But do you think that they would actually
20:56
Speaker 1: go and look for some really major impact bat to
20:59
Speaker 1: take that on one of the young guys that they
21:01
Speaker 1: have in their lineup.
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Speaker 2: I don't know the answer to that, Scott, and we
21:06
Speaker 2: all know the Brewers are committed to their young talent.
21:10
Speaker 2: Now I've written about this, I've talked about this with
21:12
Speaker 2: regard more to Schooble how they have the young talent
21:15
Speaker 2: to go do that if they want to, and it's
21:18
Speaker 2: certainly something that in my view, they should consider. Of course,
21:21
Speaker 2: we have the example of CC Sabathia years ago and
21:25
Speaker 2: the impact he made on that franchise. They don't seem
21:28
Speaker 2: inclined to do that kind of thing, and I just
21:31
Speaker 2: don't know where that bat would be for them. Ideally
21:35
Speaker 2: it's an outfielder, a slucking outfielder. But is that guy
21:39
Speaker 2: going to be out there. I'm not convinced he is.
21:42
Speaker 2: And if he's not, then you're not going to do
21:44
Speaker 2: something stupid to pry someone loose that maybe is not
21:48
Speaker 2: even going to give you the bang for the buck
21:49
Speaker 2: that you want. So you raise a great point because
21:54
Speaker 2: last postseason when they lost to the Dodgers, clearly offense
21:58
Speaker 2: was the problem. But the Dodgers had one of those
22:02
Speaker 2: amazing series that you just can't say anything about. They
22:06
Speaker 2: pitched that way and they were at the peak of
22:08
Speaker 2: their powers, and I don't know that any team was
22:10
Speaker 2: going to beat them in that particular moment. So when
22:14
Speaker 2: people say, oh, these small market teams can't win those series,
22:17
Speaker 2: no they can. And one day they're going to And
22:22
Speaker 2: it just seems to me that if the Brewers have
22:25
Speaker 2: this pitching intact with the way their offense goes, if
22:29
Speaker 2: they get hot offensively like kind of the Blue Jays
22:31
Speaker 2: did last year, granted they had power in the postseason,
22:36
Speaker 2: there's no reason they can't make an extended run.
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Speaker 1: Yep, that's fair, you know what I mean? Like last year,
22:40
Speaker 1: I'm looking like, does Josh Naylor change things if he's
22:43
Speaker 1: in that series? He had such a good one with
22:44
Speaker 1: the Mariner.
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Speaker 2: Now I would say, yet the answer to that is yes, potentially,
22:48
Speaker 2: and maybe not in that series. But let's talk about
22:52
Speaker 2: a Josh Naylor type this year. Would he change things
22:55
Speaker 2: for them? And I would say the answer to that
22:57
Speaker 2: is yes.
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Speaker 1: I think so too. Sometime sometimes just some infusion of
23:01
Speaker 1: something else to the lineup right can make a difference.
23:04
Speaker 1: And it's not like it's a bad lineup. It's just
23:05
Speaker 1: that that lineup's very similar from last year and it
23:08
Speaker 1: didn't work in that scenario. So Ken, good stuff, Thank
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Speaker 1: you so much. We'll talk to you soon. Thanks Scott
23:13
Speaker 1: Ken Rosenthal left, you've senior insider. Next one for you,
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Speaker 1: and great job with the question today. I tried to
23:18
Speaker 1: be like very clear cutcrats. I was like, now we're
23:21
Speaker 1: down to business. There's a little over a month ago
23:23
Speaker 1: until the trade deadline. It's already happening. So at my
23:26
Speaker 1: name in the chat, let me know your trade question.
23:28
Speaker 1: I'll try to get to as many as I can
23:30
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23:32
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