Latest / O'Brien & Doug / O'Brien & Doug S6:E15 [August 25, 2022 Stories from the Tangenital Fun Dungeon]
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- 0:02SPEAKER_03: The O'Brien and Doug podcast is brought to you in part by MojurMultimedia.com.
- 0:07SPEAKER_03: DMAT's music in PressCyle Maine.
- 0:09SPEAKER_03: The root runner in Westfield, Maine.
- 0:11SPEAKER_03: Doug Doug.
- 0:15SPEAKER_01: What a photo.
- 0:18SPEAKER_05: I'll say I had two phones and you're listening to the O'Brien and Doug podcast.
- 0:25SPEAKER_03: Now do it like you're meaning.
- 0:33SPEAKER_05: Thank you.
- 0:37SPEAKER_03: Welcome to the O'Brien and Doug Podcast.
- 0:39SPEAKER_03: I'm O'Brien.
- 0:40SPEAKER_03: I'm Doug.
- 0:41SPEAKER_03: And we are on season six, episode 14.
- 0:45SPEAKER_03: 15.
- 0:45SPEAKER_03: 15.
- 0:47SPEAKER_03: We just talked about this.
- 0:48SPEAKER_03: I'm telling you, my brain is your brain is fried.
- 0:51SPEAKER_03: You're right.
- 0:51SPEAKER_03: It is the 15.
- 0:52SPEAKER_03: Episode 15.
- 0:53SPEAKER_03: Yep.
- 0:54SPEAKER_03: It is.
- 0:54SPEAKER_03: I was talking I was at a soccer game last night, and uh woman that I know, you know, I've known for a long time.
- 1:02SPEAKER_03: I know all her kids.
- 1:04SPEAKER_03: She walks by and she's talking to my wife, and and uh I saw her daughter earlier that evening and she had a like a cast on her foot.
- 1:10SPEAKER_03: And I said, uh I said, uh uh Jordan did something to her foot, huh?
- 1:15SPEAKER_03: And she's she kind of smiled and she said, yeah, and then she told me the story.
- 1:20SPEAKER_03: And her other little kid uh walked by and I called him Isaac.
- 1:28SPEAKER_03: And her daughter's name is Jaden, and her son's name is Isaiah, and I've known that all my life.
- 1:34SPEAKER_03: And I looked at my wife and I'm like, I think I'm losing my mind.
- 1:38SPEAKER_01: I think I I Steve, what happened to your own what happened to your sister Megan's leg?
- 1:46SPEAKER_03: Honestly, I mean lately, like this past week, and I think it's because you know, school started.
- 1:51SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
- 1:51SPEAKER_03: Right?
- 1:52SPEAKER_03: We've got two gigs coming up this weekend.
- 1:54SPEAKER_03: Yep.
- 1:55SPEAKER_03: Um and I have to prepare for that.
- 1:57SPEAKER_03: I have to gather songs, and you know, we haven't played in over three years.
- 2:01SPEAKER_03: Syndicate uh is is playing this weekend.
- 2:03SPEAKER_03: I already said that.
- 2:04SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 2:04SPEAKER_03: Uh we played last weekend.
- 2:06SPEAKER_01: Yep.
- 2:07SPEAKER_03: Um the rest of my job starts in a couple weeks, uh, which involves little kids and stuff.
- 2:12SPEAKER_03: And so I I'm just like, I don't even know whether I'm coming or going.
- 2:16SPEAKER_01: And are you are you still gonna be teaching guitar lessons when school starts?
- 2:20SPEAKER_03: No, I'm not teaching guitar lessons anymore.
- 2:22SPEAKER_01: Okay.
- 2:22SPEAKER_03: I got done in So what are they doing?
- 2:24SPEAKER_01: They're just like, Oh, I'm glad I learned uh all the chords already, because my teacher left.
- 2:31SPEAKER_03: Well, kind of.
- 2:32SPEAKER_03: Kind of.
- 2:32SPEAKER_03: I told him, I said, uh Hey, good luck! Well, and I was only supposed to teach through July and August.
- 2:37SPEAKER_03: Right.
- 2:38SPEAKER_03: And then I got a job.
- 2:39SPEAKER_03: Right.
- 2:40SPEAKER_03: Uh a different job.
- 2:41SPEAKER_03: So I told him, I said, you know, I'm only gonna be able to teach through July.
- 2:44SPEAKER_03: So they got four lessons uh out of me.
- 2:47SPEAKER_03: They had a lesson a week.
- 2:48SPEAKER_03: Some of them had actually had two lessons per week.
- 2:51SPEAKER_01: Um, as long as you taught them the major chords.
- 2:54SPEAKER_01: I did.
- 2:54SPEAKER_01: They can they can figure it out from there.
- 2:55SPEAKER_03: Yep.
- 2:56SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I did.
- 2:57SPEAKER_01: That's how all that's how all great bands start.
- 2:59SPEAKER_01: Right.
- 2:59SPEAKER_01: You know, you just get a guitar, you learn a few chords, and that's how I started.
- 3:03SPEAKER_01: Well, it's like uh McCartney was talking about when they learned uh what was it, B minor?
- 3:08SPEAKER_01: Yeah that they had to travel across Liverpool to find they heard about a guy that knew B minor.
- 3:12SPEAKER_01: I remember that.
- 3:15SPEAKER_01: They got on the bus and they drove like clear across Liverpool to find this guy.
- 3:19SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 3:19SPEAKER_01: And he said, Hey, you know B minor?
- 3:21SPEAKER_01: And you do do do do.
- 3:22SPEAKER_01: So they learned it, get back on the bus, go back home.
- 3:26SPEAKER_01: Probably wrote a song with it.
- 3:27SPEAKER_01: And they were like, do do do do got it.
- 3:30SPEAKER_01: So yeah, you know, that's the way it goes.
- 3:32SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 3:33SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
- 3:34SPEAKER_01: That's the way all great stories start.
- 3:35SPEAKER_03: I really think I mean I'm just I'm just kind of overwhelmed.
- 3:38SPEAKER_03: The other day, my um it was actually Sunday, um, my family wanted to go climb haystack because it was um uh my oldest boy is we went back to college today.
- 3:49SPEAKER_03: Right.
- 3:49SPEAKER_03: So Sunday we all all gathered with actually with our our neighbors and and they were gonna go climb haystack and I was just like, I'm not feeling well.
- 3:58SPEAKER_03: I wasn't sick or anything, but I was just run down and I hadn't slept, and I was I was uh really, really tired.
- 4:04SPEAKER_03: So I said, I'm just I'm gonna stay home.
- 4:06SPEAKER_03: They left about three o'clock, I went to bed, and I woke up about nine.
- 4:10SPEAKER_03: Wow.
- 4:11SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
- 4:11SPEAKER_03: And I woke up and I got something to eat and I went back to bed.
- 4:13SPEAKER_03: There you go.
- 4:14SPEAKER_03: Of course I took some melatonin to help.
- 4:16SPEAKER_03: So I mean that that that helped.
- 4:18SPEAKER_03: And but I woke up the next day well rested, you know.
- 4:20SPEAKER_03: So I obviously I was something that I needed.
- 4:25SPEAKER_01: Saturday was a big day.
- 4:26SPEAKER_01: And we're not young men.
- 4:28SPEAKER_01: Right.
- 4:28SPEAKER_01: So Yeah.
- 4:30SPEAKER_01: It happens.
- 4:31SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 4:31SPEAKER_01: I mean, that bachelor party was just out of control.
- 4:34SPEAKER_01: We I mean I mean, I I couldn't, you know, I was just like between the kegs and the uh, you know, the dancing women and all the naked people.
- 4:46SPEAKER_03: Um hold on, let's back up.
- 4:48SPEAKER_03: Let's back up.
- 4:49SPEAKER_03: Because uh let's talk about how the that that night began.
- 4:53SPEAKER_03: So we had a gig.
- 4:55SPEAKER_03: You and I, the acoustic duo.
- 4:56SPEAKER_03: Yes.
- 4:57SPEAKER_03: Um at uh It was a pool party.
- 4:59SPEAKER_03: It was a pool party, basically.
- 5:00SPEAKER_01: Hawaiian themed.
- 5:02SPEAKER_01: There were creepy hula girls there.
- 5:04SPEAKER_01: Didn't say much, but they were nice to look at.
- 5:06SPEAKER_03: Right.
- 5:07SPEAKER_03: And it was a there was quite a few people, right?
- 5:10SPEAKER_01: I mean there were there was yeah, that was I mean For that for that for that yoga.
- 5:16SPEAKER_01: For the size of the yard, yes.
- 5:17SPEAKER_01: There was quite a few.
- 5:18SPEAKER_03: So we were set up on the deck and um we just did our thing.
- 5:22SPEAKER_03: We played, you know, uh the songs that we play, and people I think liked it, but it was just like the radio.
- 5:29SPEAKER_03: Yeah, they were just kind of ignoring us.
- 5:31SPEAKER_03: Um we did I did get comments from the host every once in a while saying, You guys are amazing, everybody loves you, and blah, blah, blah, blah, which was very nice.
- 5:38SPEAKER_03: All lies, but it's nice to be.
- 5:40SPEAKER_03: Right, right.
- 5:41SPEAKER_03: And then, knowing that we have to leave about 8 30, was what'd you say it was 10 after 8?
- 5:46SPEAKER_01: It wa it was literally 8-10.
- 5:48SPEAKER_01: I labbed, you know, we were in between songs, and we were like, I was like, Okay, how much more longer we got?
- 5:52SPEAKER_01: I was like, 8 10.
- 5:53SPEAKER_03: So we have 20 minutes left.
- 5:55SPEAKER_01: And you were like, hey, let's play one of ours.
- 5:57SPEAKER_01: I'm like, Yeah, okay.
- 5:58SPEAKER_01: One of one of our songs.
- 5:59SPEAKER_01: So we jump into one of our songs.
- 6:01SPEAKER_01: All of a sudden, there's old people dancing in our face.
- 6:05SPEAKER_01: They weren't all old people.
- 6:06SPEAKER_03: No, I'm just kidding.
- 6:07SPEAKER_03: But there was an old old woman.
- 6:09SPEAKER_03: Older woman.
- 6:09SPEAKER_03: Older older lady.
- 6:10SPEAKER_03: She's shaking her moneymaker for sure.
- 6:12SPEAKER_01: And it was disturbing, to say the least.
- 6:15SPEAKER_01: Because she kept trying to get my attention, and I'm, you know, I'm I'm pretty good at keeping a stone face.
- 6:21SPEAKER_01: Because you have to, man.
- 6:22SPEAKER_01: When you're the drummer, you gotta be you gotta be locked in.
- 6:26SPEAKER_01: I gotta, I gotta keep the beat, man.
- 6:28SPEAKER_01: Right.
- 6:28SPEAKER_01: I got a job to do.
- 6:29SPEAKER_01: Right.
- 6:30SPEAKER_01: I'm not very good at it, but I gotta do it.
- 6:32SPEAKER_01: You know?
- 6:33SPEAKER_01: And I don't need, you know, distractions, you know, Mary Jane oldie face getting getting in my face and uh, you know, trying to throw I don't know what she was trying I don't know what she was attempting to do.
- 6:49SPEAKER_01: It was just just just enjoy yourself, but leave me alone.
- 6:53SPEAKER_03: She was jiggling, she was having a good time.
- 6:54SPEAKER_03: Yeah, she was.
- 6:55SPEAKER_03: Well, here's the thing they started dancing, and and then we said, Well, I guess we'll have to keep this going.
- 7:03SPEAKER_03: So we played like footloose or something, and and then they start jumping.
- 7:07SPEAKER_01: Yeah, that was disturbing.
- 7:08SPEAKER_03: I thought we thought the deck was gonna fall.
- 7:10SPEAKER_01: I thought I thought we were gonna be on the news and it's okay.
- 7:12SPEAKER_03: Yeah, and the deck collapses, eight people dead.
- 7:15SPEAKER_03: And then we took we tell them, you know, we sorry, we have to leave.
- 7:19SPEAKER_03: Uh we have to Well, she was like, she was like, Oh, can you guys play an extra half hour of play?
- 7:23SPEAKER_01: We'll pay you, and then we're like, No, we gotta go to a bachelor party.
- 7:25SPEAKER_03: Right.
- 7:26SPEAKER_03: This bachelor party is waiting for us.
- 7:27SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
- 7:28SPEAKER_03: And they were disappointed, but uh they understood.
- 7:30SPEAKER_03: So we did our last song and we went.
- 7:32SPEAKER_03: And it took a while to get to this bachelor party, and you're not kidding, man, it was off the hook.
- 7:37SPEAKER_01: Ah, yeah.
- 7:38SPEAKER_01: I mean, we walked in and I could see for miles.
- 7:44SPEAKER_02: We're like, we're like, where is everybody?
- 7:49SPEAKER_01: We drove up.
- 7:50SPEAKER_01: I was like, if this thing is over, if this thing is over, I'm gonna be really ticked off.
- 7:55SPEAKER_01: And uh so we drove up and there was like five vehicles.
- 8:00SPEAKER_01: Five vehicles, something like that, and then we walk in, and it's like they're all they were all outside, just standing around around if the empire place was empty.
- 8:12SPEAKER_01: There was music going, there was like tables set up for like 50 people, but there was nobody there.
- 8:18SPEAKER_01: There was a lot, but the food table had been demolished, right?
- 8:22SPEAKER_01: I mean, they really did a good job on it.
- 8:24SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and then so we went out and we saw them, and we were like, Hey, hey, what's going on?
- 8:30SPEAKER_01: Hey, you made it.
- 8:32SPEAKER_01: Hey, you guys made it.
- 8:33SPEAKER_01: We're like, yeah, man, we wouldn't business.
- 8:36SPEAKER_02: And then they just take, oh, welcome.
- 8:40SPEAKER_01: It was just like, all right, hey, you guys want something?
- 8:45SPEAKER_03: That was the chillest bachelor party I've ever been to.
- 8:48SPEAKER_01: The coolest bachelor party I've ever been to, man.
- 8:50SPEAKER_01: That was so we weren't there very long because we were, you know, we were exhausted.
- 8:55SPEAKER_01: But yeah.
- 8:55SPEAKER_01: But but it was so you know, I had a great time.
- 8:59SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
- 8:59SPEAKER_01: From the time we were there, I had a great time.
- 9:01SPEAKER_01: Yeah, we just everybody was just chilled out.
- 9:02SPEAKER_01: We're just listening to the drink, you know, there was a fire going.
- 9:06SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 9:06SPEAKER_01: You know, we you know, we caught up with people and it was just it was nice, man.
- 9:10SPEAKER_03: And we, you know, of course, we're tasked with uh DJing.
- 9:14SPEAKER_03: I think they expect a little bit more than DJing from us.
- 9:17SPEAKER_03: I think they expect kind of O'Brien and Doug, basically.
- 9:22SPEAKER_01: Well, we'll we'll live cast the uh the welcome to the O'Brien wedding podcast.
- 9:31SPEAKER_03: And then um that's this this coming weekend, and then Comic Crossing is playing at the wedding for the first time in over three years.
- 9:38SPEAKER_01: That's what we're talking about.
- 9:39SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I know.
- 9:41SPEAKER_03: No, no, I I I think the O'Brien and Doug, the DJ part of the case.
- 9:45SPEAKER_01: Oh, that's yeah, that's just gonna be that's just us.
- 9:48SPEAKER_03: Hit a playlist and walk away.
- 9:49SPEAKER_03: Well, to a certain extent, I think they want us to host some of the things.
- 9:52SPEAKER_01: Oh, yeah, we'll I mean we'll we'll do that.
- 9:54SPEAKER_01: I mean, that's that's fine.
- 9:55SPEAKER_01: Yeah, we can do that.
- 9:56SPEAKER_01: We can.
- 9:57SPEAKER_01: We're we're we're multi-talented.
- 9:59SPEAKER_03: But before that happens this weekend, we uh the syndicate has another show.
- 10:03SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 10:04SPEAKER_03: Crowd of main balloon fest on Friday night.
- 10:07SPEAKER_01: I'm gonna miss half of it.
- 10:09SPEAKER_03: Well, I don't know if you'll miss half of it.
- 10:11SPEAKER_01: I'm not even sure they're gonna have it.
- 10:12SPEAKER_01: Because of the weather doesn't look good.
- 10:14SPEAKER_01: Yeah, so yeah.
- 10:15SPEAKER_01: The balloons are very uh delicate.
- 10:17SPEAKER_01: That wouldn't hurt my feelings, actually.
- 10:19SPEAKER_01: Nah, cause uh you don't have to go there.
- 10:24SPEAKER_03: But yeah, I uh it wouldn't hurt my feelings.
- 10:26SPEAKER_03: No.
- 10:26SPEAKER_01: But um I could use a night off.
- 10:28SPEAKER_03: Yeah, right.
- 10:30SPEAKER_03: It has been a long summer.
- 10:31SPEAKER_01: We've we've played a lot of gigs, man.
- 10:33SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
- 10:33SPEAKER_03: We've only we only booked six, but it just seems like more.
- 10:37SPEAKER_01: Well, I mean, because they're so involved.
- 10:39SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 10:39SPEAKER_01: And they're long gigs.
- 10:40SPEAKER_01: I mean, three, four hour gigs.
- 10:42SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
- 10:42SPEAKER_01: You know, like when we played Madawaska, I mean, that was a three-hour gig.
- 10:46SPEAKER_03: Uh-huh.
- 10:46SPEAKER_01: It was an hour and a half to drive up there, right, and an hour and a half to drive back.
- 10:50SPEAKER_01: I mean, that's a long night.
- 10:51SPEAKER_01: Sure it is.
- 10:52SPEAKER_01: So that's the way it is, but you know, it's a labor of love.
- 10:55SPEAKER_01: But we do it's a labor of love.
- 10:56SPEAKER_01: We do it again in a heartbeat.
- 10:57SPEAKER_01: Heck yeah, dude.
- 10:59SPEAKER_01: I'm ready.
- 11:00SPEAKER_03: So uh yeah, I mentioned that um Jude packed up today, my uh my oldest boy.
- 11:04SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
- 11:05SPEAKER_03: And uh Michigan.
- 11:07SPEAKER_03: He's heading down to University of Maine Orno to visit a couple of his buds for tonight and then uh 14 hour drive tomorrow to get to his sisters in West Virginia.
- 11:17SPEAKER_01: Oh yeah.
- 11:18SPEAKER_03: Oh, he's gonna go to He's going to West Virginia first.
- 11:20SPEAKER_03: Yep.
- 11:21SPEAKER_01: That makes sense to go this way and then go back up.
- 11:23SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
- 11:24SPEAKER_03: Because you can't really go into Canada, you know, unless you know 'cause if he could go into Canada, it would be a lot quicker.
- 11:30SPEAKER_01: It'd be like six hours.
- 11:31SPEAKER_03: I don't think it'd be six hours, but it would definitely be quicker.
- 11:34SPEAKER_01: Trans Canada, man.
- 11:35SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 11:36SPEAKER_01: You know, you've driven on the Trans Canada over here.
- 11:40SPEAKER_01: They're insane.
- 11:41SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I know.
- 11:41SPEAKER_01: I don't know what it is, man.
- 11:42SPEAKER_01: It's like everybody thinks Canadians are very nice, and which they are.
- 11:46SPEAKER_01: Yep.
- 11:47SPEAKER_01: But they drive like maniacs on like Trans Canada.
- 11:49SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 11:50SPEAKER_01: You know, the niceness stops when they get behind the wheel.
- 11:53SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 11:53SPEAKER_01: They're just like the same thing with hockey.
- 11:57SPEAKER_01: Groot Maway.
- 11:59SPEAKER_01: Yeah, Maway, eh.
- 12:01SPEAKER_01: What's the house is this a boot?
- 12:05SPEAKER_03: So he's going to West Virginia.
- 12:07SPEAKER_03: Tim Yeah, Tim.
- 12:09SPEAKER_03: He's going to West Virginia on uh tomorrow, and he'll probably get there late at night, I'm sure.
- 12:15SPEAKER_03: Well, I'm sure, yeah.
- 12:16SPEAKER_03: Um, and then it's a six-hour drive from my daughter's place to to where he's going.
- 12:22SPEAKER_03: Awesome about Kalamazoo.
- 12:23SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
- 12:23SPEAKER_03: So you know, he could leave later in the day if he need if he needed to.
- 12:26SPEAKER_03: Sure.
- 12:27SPEAKER_03: You know.
- 12:28SPEAKER_03: So we uh we went to his apartment after I got done work today and we had to get a and we had to he emptied out his apartment, and part of it was there was this big leather couch that belonged to my brother-in-law, and we couldn't leave it there.
- 12:42SPEAKER_03: So he wanted us to take it out and leave it in the garage and and blah blah blah.
- 12:47SPEAKER_03: There's this whole rig and roll.
- 12:49SPEAKER_03: We had we tried to pivot.
- 12:52SPEAKER_03: Yeah, exactly.
- 12:52SPEAKER_03: We had to we had to take the door off its hinges to get it out.
- 12:56SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
- 12:56SPEAKER_03: Uh I'm surprised they got it in.
- 12:58SPEAKER_03: Uh because when they when they did put it in, they took the the feet off the couch to get through.
- 13:04SPEAKER_03: We couldn't get the feet off this time.
- 13:05SPEAKER_03: Okay.
- 13:06SPEAKER_03: So we pushed it through and it was like just like having a baby.
- 13:11SPEAKER_03: Just like well, maybe not just like, but yeah, you know what I mean.
- 13:14SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
- 13:14SPEAKER_03: Um and so, and then we all just kind of stood around and uh didn't really want to say goodbye.
- 13:20SPEAKER_03: You know, the my daughter, my youngest, was all over, all over him, and my wife was crying and blah blah blah blah.
- 13:28SPEAKER_03: And it was, you know, it was one of those things.
- 13:30SPEAKER_03: But um he's he's uh I don't tell you that uh uh he's he's done, I think, in uh the summer.
- 13:38SPEAKER_01: Yeah, he's gonna be uh he'll have his bachelor's.
- 13:41SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 13:41SPEAKER_03: And he's already looking for grad graduate schools.
- 13:43SPEAKER_01: He's wicked smart.
- 13:44SPEAKER_01: Your kids are wicked smart.
- 13:45SPEAKER_03: Well, most of them.
- 13:46SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
- 13:46SPEAKER_01: They get it from the Well the the oldest two.
- 13:49SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
- 13:49SPEAKER_03: So far.
- 13:50SPEAKER_03: So far.
- 13:50SPEAKER_01: Actually, the uh well, I mean, number three is pretty smart.
- 13:54SPEAKER_01: He seems like a smart kid.
- 13:55SPEAKER_03: Yeah, he is a smart kid.
- 13:56SPEAKER_01: And number four, he's uh he's he's very he's he's a smart kid.
- 14:00SPEAKER_01: He is a very smart kid and he's very good with his hands.
- 14:02SPEAKER_01: He's very handy.
- 14:03SPEAKER_03: Yeah, he's a smart kid, uh, but he's a really smart kid, actually, but in a lot of different ways than the other ones.
- 14:10SPEAKER_03: Yeah, yeah.
- 14:11SPEAKER_01: And then uh number five is number five.
- 14:14SPEAKER_01: Number five is just she's all over the place, dude.
- 14:17SPEAKER_03: Yes, she is.
- 14:19SPEAKER_03: She is.
- 14:19SPEAKER_03: I had uh uh I had class today at the at the school, and the kids asked me, you know, if you had to pick uh which one of your kids is your favorite, which would it be?
- 14:28SPEAKER_03: Oh no.
- 14:29SPEAKER_03: And I said, Yeah, I can't I can't.
- 14:30SPEAKER_03: Dude, you don't want to get in that Vietnam.
- 14:32SPEAKER_03: I said I said, I can't do that.
- 14:33SPEAKER_03: You know, somebody held a gun to your head.
- 14:35SPEAKER_03: Which which kid is your favorite?
- 14:37SPEAKER_03: And so I I had to pick.
- 14:39SPEAKER_03: So I said You pick me, didn't you?
- 14:41SPEAKER_03: Yeah, no, I said, Well, I'm really a kid at heart.
- 14:43SPEAKER_03: And they're like, Mr.
- 14:45SPEAKER_03: Mo.
- 14:46SPEAKER_03: They're like, You're saying your favorite kid is you?
- 14:49SPEAKER_03: I'm like, No, can I?
- 14:51SPEAKER_03: Can I say that?
- 14:51SPEAKER_03: Yeah, yeah, I'm saying that.
- 14:53SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I'm the adult here.
- 14:54SPEAKER_03: You know.
- 14:54SPEAKER_03: No, I said, uh I said, no, I I said I'm a kid at heart, so I kind of relate to my eight-year-old, you know, because she's she's youthful and she's funny and uh all this stuff, and so so your your youngest is your favorite?
- 15:08SPEAKER_03: I said, Well, no, I don't have a favorite, but if I had to pick a favorite right now, it would be her.
- 15:13SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 15:14SPEAKER_03: They wouldn't understand that.
- 15:16SPEAKER_03: No, no, I get it.
- 15:17SPEAKER_03: Anyway.
- 15:18SPEAKER_03: Um so yeah.
- 15:20SPEAKER_03: So we said goodbye to uh to the Judeister.
- 15:23SPEAKER_03: He's on his way.
- 15:24SPEAKER_03: Jude Meister.
- 15:25SPEAKER_03: The Jude Meister.
- 15:26SPEAKER_03: Actually, you know, my daughter calls him Judy.
- 15:29SPEAKER_03: No, I I can't get behind that.
- 15:31SPEAKER_03: And he he he soaks it right up.
- 15:34SPEAKER_03: No, which dog?
- 15:35SPEAKER_03: She's uh Myra.
- 15:36SPEAKER_03: Oh okay.
- 15:37SPEAKER_03: Yeah, she's the only one that calls him Judy, and he I mean he loves it.
- 15:41SPEAKER_01: Uh yeah.
- 15:41SPEAKER_01: Well, that I could say.
- 15:42SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
- 15:43SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 15:43SPEAKER_01: Coming from her.
- 15:44SPEAKER_01: So I could I could deal with that.
- 15:46SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
- 15:46SPEAKER_01: I'm not gonna call him Judy.
- 15:47SPEAKER_03: I'm not gonna call him Judy.
- 15:48SPEAKER_01: Hey Judy! What's up, dude?
- 15:51SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
- 15:52SPEAKER_03: Um so what else?
- 15:54SPEAKER_03: Anything else happened this weekend?
- 15:57SPEAKER_03: Um we're recording this on a Tuesday, by the way, because my kid had a soccer game.
- 16:01SPEAKER_01: Tuesday, Tuesday.
- 16:05SPEAKER_03: I did have uh, I know we have some listeners because I had someone come up to me at the soccer game and said, shouldn't uh shouldn't you be with Doug right now?
- 16:18SPEAKER_03: Were they looking at her, where's Doug?
- 16:20SPEAKER_03: Is he under the bleachers?
- 16:23SPEAKER_03: I said yes.
- 16:24SPEAKER_03: I said, yes, you know you're stalking me.
- 16:27SPEAKER_03: Um but uh I need an adult.
- 16:30SPEAKER_03: So yeah, I I told him, No, I said, Well, no, we're recording tomorrow night because of the because of this, because of the game.
- 16:37SPEAKER_03: Oh, and this is a funny story.
- 16:38SPEAKER_03: Okay.
- 16:39SPEAKER_03: Um, and Finn will deny this.
- 16:41SPEAKER_03: Of course he will.
- 16:42SPEAKER_03: Um so he plays seventh grade soccer, and he got his number.
- 16:48SPEAKER_03: His number was 13.
- 16:49SPEAKER_03: Oh, lucky 13.
- 16:50SPEAKER_03: Yeah, well, he was like, uh, I didn't want really want 13.
- 16:54SPEAKER_03: It's like, well, because it's you know, he says, Don't say it.
- 16:57SPEAKER_03: I know it's unlucky.
- 16:58SPEAKER_03: I said, Well, well, some people think 13's a lucky number.
- 17:01SPEAKER_03: You know?
- 17:02SPEAKER_01: Do you know there's an actual phobia of the number 13?
- 17:04SPEAKER_01: There is, yeah.
- 17:05SPEAKER_01: That's that's weird, man.
- 17:06SPEAKER_03: I can't remember what it's called, but yeah.
- 17:10SPEAKER_03: But I said, you know, some people consider the number 13 good luck.
- 17:14SPEAKER_03: You know, I mean that's it's all that's superstition.
- 17:16SPEAKER_03: I said, you know, you don't think like that.
- 17:18SPEAKER_01: Well, it all goes back to the they think it goes back to the Knights Templar.
- 17:22SPEAKER_03: Oh, really?
- 17:23SPEAKER_01: Um Well, because you know the Knights Templar were all eradicated and arrested on Friday the 13th.
- 17:30SPEAKER_01: No, I didn't know that actually.
- 17:31SPEAKER_01: Back in 15 something, something.
- 17:34SPEAKER_01: Anyway, but that's where that's where I think a lot of people will attribute the you know thirteen being an unlucky number is because that was the day, especially Friday the thirteenth.
- 17:43SPEAKER_01: As that was the day they rounded up all the Knights Templars and you know, executed them and tortured and you know you know look at you with your big brain.
- 17:52SPEAKER_01: Hey dude.
- 17:52SPEAKER_01: I have a I have a bachelor's degree.
- 17:54SPEAKER_01: I know you do.
- 17:56SPEAKER_01: I'm sorta smart.
- 18:00SPEAKER_03: Um see, I I figure Friday the thirteenth, the movies.
- 18:05SPEAKER_03: You know.
- 18:05SPEAKER_03: No.
- 18:06SPEAKER_01: That's it.
- 18:07SPEAKER_01: You know, that's just one theory.
- 18:08SPEAKER_01: I mean, that's just that's not anyway.
- 18:10SPEAKER_01: Anyway.
- 18:11SPEAKER_03: So he wasn't uh crazy about his number, or at least he pretended he wasn't crazy about his number.
- 18:15SPEAKER_03: Because here's the thing.
- 18:17SPEAKER_03: So uh he played his game, and right after his game was the uh girl soccer game.
- 18:27SPEAKER_03: And he wanted to stay and watch it.
- 18:28SPEAKER_03: So we'll stay and watch it.
- 18:31SPEAKER_03: But you know, specific girl.
- 18:34SPEAKER_01: Of course.
- 18:35SPEAKER_01: Is it the same one from uh the Mapleton game?
- 18:37SPEAKER_01: Oh yeah, oh yeah.
- 18:38SPEAKER_01: Oh yeah, okay.
- 18:38SPEAKER_01: Guess what her number is?
- 18:40SPEAKER_01: 13.
- 18:41SPEAKER_01: Wow, I see, it's come full circle.
- 18:46SPEAKER_01: So he gets in the car afterwards.
- 18:49SPEAKER_01: See, that's why he's the smartest one of all your.
- 18:52SPEAKER_01: I'm telling you.
- 18:52SPEAKER_03: He is I am telling you he's gonna be, I don't know, he's he's he's an evil genius.
- 18:59SPEAKER_01: He is.
- 18:59SPEAKER_01: He really is He should be like Mr.
- 19:01SPEAKER_03: Smithers, like this is the guy and and and not Smithers, Mr.
- 19:06SPEAKER_03: Burns.
- 19:07SPEAKER_03: Mr.
- 19:07SPEAKER_03: Burns.
- 19:08SPEAKER_03: He is his own person.
- 19:09SPEAKER_03: And what I mean is he's if he's not confident with himself, you would never know it.
- 19:17SPEAKER_03: Uh because like his favorite color is pink.
- 19:21SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
- 19:21SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
- 19:22SPEAKER_03: Which is unique, I think.
- 19:23SPEAKER_03: I is, yeah.
- 19:24SPEAKER_03: Um, you know, all the stereotypes and everything, but his favorite color is pink, so he ordered crocs that were pink with strawberries on them, and he wears them.
- 19:37SPEAKER_03: To the soccer games.
- 19:38SPEAKER_03: That's brave.
- 19:39SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
- 19:40SPEAKER_03: He doesn't care.
- 19:42SPEAKER_03: It's his favorite color.
- 19:44SPEAKER_03: Right?
- 19:44SPEAKER_03: He and I told you about this uh when they were doing their winter carnival thing in the fin face.
- 19:51SPEAKER_03: The hashtag finface on the pink, on the bright pink shirt.
- 19:54SPEAKER_03: I'm still waiting for mine.
- 19:55SPEAKER_03: I know.
- 19:55SPEAKER_03: I know.
- 19:57SPEAKER_03: But Teresa is my wife is backed up, you know.
- 20:00SPEAKER_03: But you'll get one.
- 20:01SPEAKER_03: I know you will.
- 20:03SPEAKER_03: I don't worry about it.
- 20:03SPEAKER_03: But this is a kid, I mean, and and I've said this before, I said he got accomplished what I could never get accomplished is to put my face on some on a shirt and have people buy it.
- 20:12SPEAKER_03: People actually bought this shirt.
- 20:13SPEAKER_03: Oh yeah.
- 20:14SPEAKER_03: It's a hashtag finface.
- 20:15SPEAKER_03: And he's got he's got a uh he's a trend setter, not a trend follower.
- 20:20SPEAKER_03: Well, no, he's a trend.
- 20:22SPEAKER_03: Well, he's a trend follower.
- 20:23SPEAKER_01: And these days he'd be an influencer.
- 20:25SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
- 20:26SPEAKER_03: He he does follow trends, but he also starts trends.
- 20:30SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I believe that.
- 20:31SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
- 20:32SPEAKER_01: He's the most diabolically smart one out of your five.
- 20:36SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
- 20:36SPEAKER_03: And but and he does it, you're right though.
- 20:38SPEAKER_01: He does it like And you know who I attribute most to him getting to that point?
- 20:44SPEAKER_01: Number three.
- 20:46SPEAKER_01: I think he pushed him to that.
- 20:48SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
- 20:48SPEAKER_03: You're probably right.
- 20:49SPEAKER_03: Because they were, I mean, they were you know they battled quite a bit.
- 20:53SPEAKER_01: I think I think Eli played a big part in Finn becoming who Finn is.
- 20:57SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I think that's probably true.
- 20:58SPEAKER_01: And that's part of Eli's greatest gift.
- 21:03SPEAKER_03: That's an interesting perspective.
- 21:04SPEAKER_01: Yeah, he's a he's a he's a he's a motivator.
- 21:07SPEAKER_03: They will completely deny that.
- 21:09SPEAKER_01: I know they will.
- 21:10SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
- 21:10SPEAKER_01: But that's just my observation.
- 21:11SPEAKER_01: Yeah, no, that's that's that makes a lot of sense.
- 21:13SPEAKER_01: That's observations from the fun dungeon.
- 21:15SPEAKER_01: Hashtag FinnFace.
- 21:19SPEAKER_03: It's almost as good as storytime with Doug.
- 21:21SPEAKER_03: I miss Storytime with Doug.
- 21:23SPEAKER_03: I miss storytime with Doug too.
- 21:25SPEAKER_01: Maybe we'll bring that back on Saturday.
- 21:27SPEAKER_03: Yeah, absolutely.
- 21:28SPEAKER_03: Let's do it.
- 21:30SPEAKER_03: Um, no, so anyway, we got him in the car afterwards and I brought it up to him.
- 21:33SPEAKER_03: I said, now I see where you got the number 13.
- 21:35SPEAKER_03: He's like, no, no, that we didn't plan that at all.
- 21:38SPEAKER_03: I'm like, okay.
- 21:40SPEAKER_03: Whatever you say.
- 21:41SPEAKER_01: I could fertilize all the fields in Proscow with that.
- 21:45SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
- 21:46SPEAKER_02: Didn't plan it on you.
- 21:48SPEAKER_02: Okay.
- 21:48SPEAKER_02: We didn't plan it at all.
- 21:49SPEAKER_01: All right, Mr.
- 21:50SPEAKER_01: Burns.
- 21:51SPEAKER_01: You are, you know what you're doing.
- 21:53SPEAKER_03: Yeah, of course he does.
- 21:54SPEAKER_01: Finn Burns, that's what I'm gonna call him right now.
- 21:56SPEAKER_01: Hashtag Finn Burns.
- 21:58SPEAKER_03: Um, so what was I gonna say.
- 22:00SPEAKER_03: I don't know.
- 22:01SPEAKER_03: I don't either.
- 22:02SPEAKER_01: Oh, I told did I tell you that I I did download the uh generation radio album?
- 22:07SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah.
- 22:08SPEAKER_01: You did.
- 22:09SPEAKER_01: And I did like it.
- 22:10SPEAKER_01: I did enjoy it.
- 22:11SPEAKER_01: And I do like it.
- 22:12SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 22:13SPEAKER_02: We we talked about this.
- 22:14SPEAKER_02: I but you're right, we you know we got duped a little bit.
- 22:17SPEAKER_01: A little bit.
- 22:18SPEAKER_01: But it's still a good album.
- 22:19SPEAKER_01: I agree.
- 22:20SPEAKER_01: It's worth the download, I don't know.
- 22:21SPEAKER_01: Totally agree.
- 22:22SPEAKER_03: Totally agree.
- 22:23SPEAKER_03: Um it is, it is, it's it's it's good all the way through.
- 22:27SPEAKER_03: It's stellar.
- 22:28SPEAKER_03: It just was like Do you know what else I got?
- 22:30SPEAKER_03: What else did you get?
- 22:32SPEAKER_03: I got I got real quiet.
- 22:37SPEAKER_01: I got Janet Jackson.
- 22:39SPEAKER_01: Which one?
- 22:40SPEAKER_01: Like Holler Greatest, like our number one like a greatest hands.
- 22:43SPEAKER_01: Janet Jackson.
- 22:44SPEAKER_01: That's a good buy though.
- 22:45SPEAKER_01: Dude, it was it's really good.
- 22:47SPEAKER_01: I have it, you know I forgot how many good songs Janet Jackson had.
- 22:51SPEAKER_03: Well, do you know do you know that uh so I have Amazon Prime?
- 22:55SPEAKER_03: Yeah, and I can uh I can go in the Amazon music, and if I don't buy it, I can some of some of the albums you can add to a playlist or something like that, and that's one of them that I added.
- 23:07SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
- 23:08SPEAKER_03: Pleasure principle.
- 23:09SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I just rhythm nation.
- 23:12SPEAKER_01: Right.
- 23:13SPEAKER_01: Uh Black Cat.
- 23:14SPEAKER_03: Oh yeah.
- 23:15SPEAKER_01: Absolutely.
- 23:15SPEAKER_01: With uh who was playing guitar in Black Cat?
- 23:17SPEAKER_01: I think it was Nuno, wasn't it?
- 23:19SPEAKER_01: He might have done the uh solo, but who did the riffs?
- 23:23SPEAKER_01: Was it uh what's it?
- 23:25SPEAKER_01: Steve Stevens.
- 23:26SPEAKER_03: Steve Stevens, I think.
- 23:26SPEAKER_01: I think it was Steve Stevens.
- 23:27SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I think so.
- 23:28SPEAKER_01: Because I think he played with Michael at some point.
- 23:30SPEAKER_01: Didn't he do uh Dirty Diana with uh Steve Steve?
- 23:32SPEAKER_03: That was uh no, that wasn't Steve Stevens.
- 23:34SPEAKER_03: That was uh uh well that was well on the tour it was Slash.
- 23:40SPEAKER_01: Yeah, but I mean who did it who did the studio version?
- 23:43SPEAKER_03: Uh I thought it was Jennifer Batten.
- 23:45SPEAKER_03: Oh, I don't know.
- 23:45SPEAKER_03: But maybe but maybe I thought it was Steve Stevens, but I couldn't.
- 23:48SPEAKER_03: Maybe it was.
- 23:49SPEAKER_03: Maybe it was.
- 23:49SPEAKER_03: I don't know.
- 23:50SPEAKER_03: Hello, Google! Yeah, right.
- 23:52SPEAKER_03: Hey Google does your phone work like that?
- 23:56SPEAKER_03: It doesn't.
- 23:56SPEAKER_01: Uh it would, but it didn't.
- 23:58SPEAKER_01: Hey Google! Maybe maybe Oh, there it goes! Uh hey! Hey Google! Okay, you're gonna be a bad thing.
- 24:12SPEAKER_01: Hey Google! Who played the guitar on uh Michael Jackson's dirty diamond song?
- 24:23SPEAKER_03: Steve Stevens.
- 24:28SPEAKER_03: Uh Wikipedia.
- 24:30SPEAKER_03: Uh nice track on Jackson's seventh studio album Bad.
- 24:35SPEAKER_03: Uh it presents a hard rock sound similar to Beat It from Thriller and a guitar solo played by Steve Stevens.
- 24:41SPEAKER_03: There it is.
- 24:42SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
- 24:42SPEAKER_03: Because Google was useless.
- 24:44SPEAKER_03: It doesn't say that he played the rhythm parts though.
- 24:48SPEAKER_03: Oh, okay.
- 24:49SPEAKER_03: But that's let's see.
- 24:50SPEAKER_03: Oh wait, okay, here we go.
- 24:52SPEAKER_03: Co-produced Michael Jackson solo magical rhythm arrangement.
- 24:57SPEAKER_03: Vocal arrangement, drums, guitars.
- 24:59SPEAKER_03: Paul Jackson Jr., he's a major um uh session guitar player.
- 25:03SPEAKER_03: Oh, yeah, yeah.
- 25:04SPEAKER_03: And David Williams.
- 25:05SPEAKER_03: Uh, but Steve Stevens, you're right.
- 25:07SPEAKER_03: Good job, Doc.
- 25:08SPEAKER_03: Steve Stevens did the guitar solo.
- 25:10SPEAKER_03: Uh, I want to know uh who because I heard a rumor, this was a long time ago, that Nuno Betancourt had something to do with Janet Jackson's song.
- 25:20SPEAKER_01: I thought he did the solo on Black Cat.
- 25:22SPEAKER_03: That's what I'm that's what I'm looking up here, because um and I'm not sure.
- 25:29SPEAKER_03: It's uh Black Cat was written by Jackson and received a Grammy nomination.
- 25:34SPEAKER_03: Uh guitarist.
- 25:35SPEAKER_03: For the album version of Black Cat.
- 25:37SPEAKER_03: Most of the guitar lines were played by Dave Barry, including the intro, main riff, and a memorable thematic solo.
- 25:42SPEAKER_03: Barry consequently became Janet Jackson's longtime touring guitarist.
- 25:45SPEAKER_03: John McLean, AR exec for AM Records, provided the slide guitar part while Jelly Bean Johnson uh played the funky guitar part that punctuates the album version of the song.
- 25:54SPEAKER_03: Although credited on the album, Jesse Johnson provided a guitar solo that was not used for the album version but is featured in each of the remixes.
- 26:02SPEAKER_03: The video edit of Black Cat features Nuno Betancourt of Extreme on rhythm guitar, while the guitar mix features Vernon Reed of Living Color.
- 26:10SPEAKER_03: Vernon Reed?
- 26:10SPEAKER_03: I did not know that.
- 26:11SPEAKER_06: I didn't know that either.
- 26:13SPEAKER_03: I love Vernon Reed.
- 26:14SPEAKER_03: The video edit.
- 26:15SPEAKER_03: So I'm not sure if they're it's just in the video or maybe.
- 26:18SPEAKER_03: I don't know.
- 26:19SPEAKER_03: Oh man, that's crazy.
- 26:20SPEAKER_03: I knew there was a Nuno thing there.
- 26:22SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
- 26:22SPEAKER_01: But I didn't uh hear, but I had no idea about Vernon Reed.
- 26:26SPEAKER_03: Oh, neither did I.
- 26:27SPEAKER_01: That's awesome.
- 26:27SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 26:28SPEAKER_03: That is cool.
- 26:28SPEAKER_01: There's a band that never got the recognition they deserved.
- 26:31SPEAKER_01: Living Color?
- 26:32SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 26:33unknown: Yeah.
- 26:33SPEAKER_03: You know, I like they had uh when they first came out, obviously Cult of Personality.
- 26:38SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
- 26:39SPEAKER_03: Uh and then they had another one uh that was a single, and I can't remember what it was.
- 26:42SPEAKER_01: Yeah, that's the problem.
- 26:43SPEAKER_01: I can't remember any other songs on that.
- 26:45SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
- 26:46SPEAKER_01: But they were really good.
- 26:47SPEAKER_01: And they're still together.
- 26:48SPEAKER_01: Oh yeah.
- 26:48SPEAKER_03: Yeah, they're still playing.
- 26:49SPEAKER_03: They're still going.
- 26:50SPEAKER_03: Um and I didn't like um, you know, I'm I'm just I'm just weird, I guess.
- 26:59SPEAKER_03: Um Vernon Reed's style I didn't like.
- 27:02SPEAKER_03: You know how I don't like Tom Morello?
- 27:03SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
- 27:03SPEAKER_03: Oh, I I shouldn't say I don't like Tom Morrell.
- 27:05SPEAKER_03: I don't like Tom Morello's playing style.
- 27:07SPEAKER_03: Right.
- 27:07SPEAKER_03: He's an innovator, he's amazing at what he does, but it's just not my bag.
- 27:11SPEAKER_03: Right.
- 27:11SPEAKER_03: Vernon Reed, same thing.
- 27:12SPEAKER_03: Really?
- 27:13SPEAKER_03: Um I I didn't uh I didn't get into his playing, although he's I mean it's unreal.
- 27:18SPEAKER_03: He's really good.
- 27:18SPEAKER_03: It's unreal.
- 27:19SPEAKER_03: Yeah, the way he plays.
- 27:21SPEAKER_03: But yeah, they're uh they had I'm looking up uh boys, they started in 84.
- 27:27SPEAKER_03: Living Color.
- 27:28SPEAKER_03: Living Color started in 84.
- 27:29SPEAKER_01: That makes sense.
- 27:30SPEAKER_03: Yep.
- 27:31SPEAKER_03: Uh and they have one, two, three, four, five, six albums.
- 27:35SPEAKER_03: Oh.
- 27:35SPEAKER_03: Okay.
- 27:35SPEAKER_03: The last coming out in uh 2017.
- 27:38SPEAKER_01: Wow.
- 27:39SPEAKER_01: So they're still they're still going strong.
- 27:40SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 27:41SPEAKER_01: I'm trying to think of um the lead singer, uh Corey something.
- 27:44SPEAKER_01: Corey, yep.
- 27:45SPEAKER_01: Uh he was in he was in that movie Platoon.
- 27:47SPEAKER_01: Did you know that?
- 27:48SPEAKER_03: I did know that.
- 27:48SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
- 27:49SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
- 27:49SPEAKER_03: Um Cory Glover.
- 27:52SPEAKER_03: Corey Glover, yes.
- 27:53SPEAKER_01: Is he related to Dan uh uh the other Danny Glover.
- 27:59SPEAKER_03: Danny Glover.
- 27:59SPEAKER_03: Um Glover.
- 28:01SPEAKER_03: There's another Glover that's an actor.
- 28:03SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 28:03SPEAKER_01: Uh I can't think of his name.
- 28:04SPEAKER_01: I thought it was Danny.
- 28:05SPEAKER_03: Well, Danny Glover's from Lethal Weapon.
- 28:07SPEAKER_01: No, no, no, not that there's a Danny Glover and an actor.
- 28:10SPEAKER_01: Yeah, from Lethal Weapon.
- 28:11SPEAKER_01: No, no.
- 28:13SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
- 28:13SPEAKER_01: No, yeah.
- 28:14SPEAKER_01: No, there's another Glover.
- 28:16SPEAKER_03: Yeah, but it's not Danny.
- 28:18SPEAKER_01: I'm pretty sure it's Danny.
- 28:19SPEAKER_01: Uh.
- 28:24SPEAKER_02: That's that's a whole other story.
- 28:27SPEAKER_02: Uh let's see.
- 28:31SPEAKER_03: Uh oh, Donald.
- 28:32SPEAKER_01: Donald!
- 28:33SPEAKER_03: Yeah, yeah, that's what I'm saying.
- 28:34SPEAKER_03: Yeah, there he is.
- 28:34SPEAKER_03: Donald Glover.
- 28:35SPEAKER_01: He was in that uh what was the movie I was watching with him?
- 28:38SPEAKER_01: It was Matt Damon.
- 28:40SPEAKER_01: Oh, uh, The Martian.
- 28:41SPEAKER_01: He's in that.
- 28:42SPEAKER_03: Isn't he also in uh he's in a bunch of movies?
- 28:45SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
- 28:46SPEAKER_03: The last one I saw was um he was in The Martian?
- 28:53SPEAKER_03: I didn't know that.
- 28:54SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 28:54SPEAKER_03: He wasn't in the he was also in um uh Ultimate Spider-Man.
- 28:58SPEAKER_03: He's Childish Gambino.
- 29:00SPEAKER_03: Right?
- 29:01SPEAKER_03: He's the uh he's a singer as well.
- 29:05SPEAKER_03: Donald Glover.
- 29:06SPEAKER_03: Childish Gambino.
- 29:07SPEAKER_03: I'd never heard of that.
- 29:08SPEAKER_03: Um I'm trying to think, is is he related to Danny Glover?
- 29:13SPEAKER_03: Uh uh producer and director who performs under the stage names Childish Gamboo Gambino and Mick DJ.
- 29:21SPEAKER_03: He was born Donald McKinley Glover at Edwards Air Force Base, California.
- 29:24SPEAKER_03: It was raised in so that that's probably his mother born.
- 29:27SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
- 29:28SPEAKER_03: His father, Donald.
- 29:29SPEAKER_03: No, so he's not.
- 29:30SPEAKER_03: Oh, he is.
- 29:31SPEAKER_03: Hold on.
- 29:32SPEAKER_03: He's a retired postal worker.
- 29:34SPEAKER_03: He is not, despite rumors, related to actor Danny Glover.
- 29:36SPEAKER_03: Okay, there we go.
- 29:37SPEAKER_03: Okay.
- 29:38SPEAKER_03: There we go.
- 29:39SPEAKER_03: Um but he's also it doesn't say he's related to Corey Glover either, so we're just kind of having a Glover conversation.
- 29:45SPEAKER_03: Um Glovers.
- 29:47SPEAKER_01: They're talented people.
- 29:48SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 29:48SPEAKER_01: Jeez.
- 29:50SPEAKER_01: Actors, singers, songwriters, actors, you know.
- 29:53SPEAKER_01: They can do it all.
- 29:54SPEAKER_03: This just in actually not just in, but it was it came out yesterday.
- 29:59SPEAKER_03: I'm just getting to it now.
- 30:01SPEAKER_03: Um Sammy Hagar has brushed aside talk of an alleged Van Halen tribute tour that turned up the rumor mill earlier this year.
- 30:10SPEAKER_03: He seemed especially bemused by the prospect of former Metallica bassist Jun Jason Newstead taking part in the trek over Michael Anthony.
- 30:18SPEAKER_03: This is from ultimate classicrock.com.
- 30:20SPEAKER_06: Okay.
- 30:21SPEAKER_03: He says, What's that about Jason Newstead playing bass for Van Halen?
- 30:24SPEAKER_03: Hager asked the News Herald.
- 30:25SPEAKER_03: Great guy, great musician, but in Van Halen, no.
- 30:28SPEAKER_03: Not when Mikey's still here and alive to do it.
- 30:30SPEAKER_01: I agree with that.
- 30:31SPEAKER_01: I agree with that too.
- 30:32SPEAKER_03: Uh Newstead turned heads back in April.
- 30:34SPEAKER_03: Remember he he came out and said, Oh yeah, we've been working on it.
- 30:36SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
- 30:37SPEAKER_01: Um and well, it's different if it was a Van Halen tribute.
- 30:41SPEAKER_03: Yeah, true.
- 30:42SPEAKER_01: You know, yeah.
- 30:43SPEAKER_01: But if he was going out as Van Halen, that's a whole other story.
- 30:46SPEAKER_01: Um there's the Wolfgang went off on people.
- 30:50SPEAKER_03: He did.
- 30:51SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 30:52SPEAKER_01: About uh because they're doing that thing for Taylor Hawkins.
- 30:55SPEAKER_02: Yep.
- 30:56SPEAKER_01: And everybody's like, Well, come they haven't done anything for Eddie.
- 30:59SPEAKER_01: And Wolfgang just went off on people.
- 31:02SPEAKER_01: I mean, just friggin' went nuclear.
- 31:05SPEAKER_03: Right.
- 31:05SPEAKER_03: Yep.
- 31:06SPEAKER_01: Which is totally understandable.
- 31:09SPEAKER_03: Um What was I gonna say?
- 31:11SPEAKER_03: Oh, those uh tributes to Taylor are coming up pretty soon.
- 31:16SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 31:17SPEAKER_03: Are those gonna be I don't know if it's gonna be like a I don't know.
- 31:21SPEAKER_01: I don't know anything about I don't know how they're gonna do it.
- 31:23SPEAKER_01: If it's gonna be like it's gonna be like uh live aid or you know, they're just gonna broadcast it all over the world or what.
- 31:29SPEAKER_01: Maybe like do like a uh do one at Webstery.
- 31:33SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I don't I don't know.
- 31:34SPEAKER_01: I have no idea how it's gonna be done.
- 31:35SPEAKER_03: Yeah, that would be neat if they did it for charity.
- 31:37SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
- 31:38SPEAKER_03: Um or even if they just kind of opened it up and let people watch it online for free.
- 31:42SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I mean I just watch it because a new uh song out.
- 31:50SPEAKER_03: Did you hear it?
- 31:50SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 31:51SPEAKER_01: Um yeah.
- 31:53SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
- 31:54SPEAKER_03: Um I I got it's a cover.
- 31:56SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 31:56SPEAKER_03: Um, and it's well, you'll recognize it.
- 32:07SPEAKER_01: But he still sounds pretty good, doesn't he?
- 32:09SPEAKER_01: He still sounds great.
- 32:50SPEAKER_03: You're right.
- 32:50SPEAKER_03: I mean it's I mean it's it's okay.
- 32:54SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 32:54SPEAKER_03: I I mean it's a it's it's the original.
- 32:58SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 32:59SPEAKER_03: Elvis Coxello.
- 33:01SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 33:03SPEAKER_03: And if you've seen the video, they kind of made the video similar to the original video as well.
- 33:13SPEAKER_03: It's hard to beat the original of anything.
- 33:16SPEAKER_01: It really is.
- 33:17SPEAKER_03: And I like this one way better than me too, to be honest with you.
- 33:22SPEAKER_03: And I'm uh I mean we know we're big, we are fantastic, so I do like this one better.
- 33:27SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 33:34SPEAKER_01: But uh I think it's the organ that makes it, maybe.
- 33:36SPEAKER_03: You know.
- 33:39SPEAKER_03: What do you think of Ellis Costello?
- 33:40SPEAKER_01: Did you like Ellis Costello?
- 33:42SPEAKER_01: Yeah, a lot.
- 33:43SPEAKER_01: I mean, he's not everything he does is not magic.
- 33:46SPEAKER_01: Right?
- 33:47SPEAKER_01: Unlike the the police.
- 33:49SPEAKER_01: But um But I I I just like I think I just like him because he's just like he's like he he's a dude that just came out of nowhere.
- 34:01SPEAKER_01: He was what?
- 34:02SPEAKER_01: A computer programmer?
- 34:03SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 34:04SPEAKER_01: Back in the days when they had like punch cards for computers.
- 34:07SPEAKER_01: Yep.
- 34:08SPEAKER_01: And he just decided, oh, I'm gonna play rock and roll.
- 34:11SPEAKER_01: And he did.
- 34:12SPEAKER_01: Right.
- 34:12SPEAKER_01: And he's way better at it than and he's married to Diana Kroll, who's one of the most gorgeous women on the planet.
- 34:18SPEAKER_03: Blew me away when I heard that.
- 34:20SPEAKER_01: I was like, what?
- 34:21SPEAKER_01: I mean, kudos to that guy.
- 34:23SPEAKER_01: Yep.
- 34:23SPEAKER_01: I mean, but he's a he is a I like his I like his style, I like his singing, I like his writing style.
- 34:29SPEAKER_03: One of my favorite songs of Elvis Costello's.
- 34:32SPEAKER_03: Of course, they traded back and forth.
- 34:33SPEAKER_03: Did you hear this story with Paul McCartney?
- 34:35SPEAKER_01: Yes, yeah.
- 34:36SPEAKER_03: Um, so I can't remember which one came first.
- 34:39SPEAKER_03: Do you remember which one came first?
- 34:40SPEAKER_01: I don't remember, you know.
- 34:42SPEAKER_03: Um they they wrote together um a song for I'm assuming Paul Paul's first, I'm not sure.
- 34:49SPEAKER_03: Uh My Brave Face was was uh uh co-written by Elvis Costello.
- 34:54SPEAKER_03: Right.
- 34:54SPEAKER_03: And then uh Elvis Costello, which is one of my favorite Costello songs.
- 34:58SPEAKER_03: This one was co-written by Sir Paul.
- 35:02SPEAKER_03: Yep.
- 35:06SPEAKER_01: Oh melodic meal to it.
- 35:08SPEAKER_03: But the chorus is the best.
- 35:15SPEAKER_03: Isn't that Paul singing too?
- 35:47SPEAKER_01: That's pop magic, right?
- 35:49SPEAKER_01: It is.
- 35:49SPEAKER_01: That's a great song, man.
- 35:50SPEAKER_01: Great, great song.
- 35:51SPEAKER_01: One of my favorite Costello songs is What's So Great About Peace, Love, and Understanding.
- 35:55SPEAKER_01: Oh yeah, yeah.
- 35:56SPEAKER_01: And I I only knew I only found out about that song is when uh Darius Rucker did a cover of it.
- 36:02SPEAKER_03: Did a cover of it.
- 36:03SPEAKER_03: Yep, yeah.
- 36:03SPEAKER_01: And I was like, whoa, what's this song?
- 36:05SPEAKER_01: And I was like, Elvis Costello, what?
- 36:07SPEAKER_03: Right.
- 36:08SPEAKER_01: But I like, I honestly like Elvis Costello's version better than Yeah, me too.
- 36:12SPEAKER_01: Yeah, me too.
- 36:33SPEAKER_03: He just he is unique.
- 36:34SPEAKER_03: He is, I think.
- 36:35SPEAKER_03: He's got a unique delivery.
- 36:36SPEAKER_01: He stands out, man.
- 36:37SPEAKER_01: And that's why I think that's why I dig him, man.
- 36:39SPEAKER_01: He's just he's just a cool cat, you know what I mean?
- 36:41SPEAKER_03: And then you know that some of the stuff that he had done um in the uh 2000s uh was borderline just jazzed.
- 36:50SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
- 36:50SPEAKER_03: I mean, of course the diet of crawl probably had it had an influence there, but but I think his latest stuff is kind of back to this.
- 36:59SPEAKER_03: This type this type of stuff.
- 37:04SPEAKER_01: Oh, what's so funny about Peace Love is?
- 37:06SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah.
- 37:08SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
- 37:08SPEAKER_03: But I love the song.
- 37:10SPEAKER_03: I don't know how we got on Elvis Costello.
- 37:11SPEAKER_03: Oh, that's because we played the Hagar.
- 37:13SPEAKER_03: Played the Hagar thing.
- 37:14SPEAKER_03: Yep.
- 37:14SPEAKER_03: Uh yeah, no, I like Elvis Costello.
- 37:16SPEAKER_03: Elvis Costello uh was contemporaries with John Hyatt.
- 37:21SPEAKER_01: Yes.
- 37:21SPEAKER_03: Uh, because uh Nick Lowe um had a lot to do with uh the imposters um and obviously with with John Hyatt as well.
- 37:29SPEAKER_03: There's a connection there.
- 37:30SPEAKER_01: Oh, yeah, there's a big connection there.
- 37:31SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
- 37:31SPEAKER_03: So uh I don't know.
- 37:33SPEAKER_03: I mean, I I love Elvis Costello.
- 37:35SPEAKER_03: He's great, man.
- 37:37SPEAKER_03: Sammy Hagar and Let's uh let's do this.
- 37:43SPEAKER_03: Hello.
- 37:43SPEAKER_03: It's time.
- 37:44SPEAKER_03: It's time to read a book.
- 37:45SPEAKER_03: It is The Guitar Legends and Drum Legends Alphabet by Beck Feiner.
- 37:52SPEAKER_03: Must reach your book.
- 37:53SPEAKER_03: And we are on S.
- 37:55SPEAKER_03: Yeah?
- 37:56SPEAKER_03: Letter of the Day.
- 37:57SPEAKER_01: Are we?
- 37:58SPEAKER_03: I believe so.
- 38:00SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
- 38:02SPEAKER_03: I'll let you look in the book to make sure, but um Oh, yeah, because last week we talked about Buddy Rich.
- 38:07SPEAKER_03: Yes, and Robert Johnson.
- 38:08SPEAKER_03: Robert Johnson.
- 38:09SPEAKER_03: Yeah, so so we're on S.
- 38:11SPEAKER_03: Um, and S is for any guesses.
- 38:18unknown: S.
- 38:19SPEAKER_03: I'm helping you out.
- 38:21SPEAKER_01: Superman?
- 38:22SPEAKER_01: No.
- 38:24SPEAKER_01: Uh hold on.
- 38:25SPEAKER_01: It's not his real name.
- 38:26SPEAKER_01: No, what?
- 38:27SPEAKER_01: Slash.
- 38:28SPEAKER_01: Yes.
- 38:28SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 38:30SPEAKER_03: S is for Slash.
- 38:32SPEAKER_03: As lead guitarist for Grammy nominated Fivesome, Guns N Roses, Saul Slash Hudson dominated 80s and 90s hard rock with his clean, mean solos and dirty, curly hair.
- 38:44SPEAKER_03: I don't know, but it was dirty.
- 38:45SPEAKER_03: I don't either.
- 38:46SPEAKER_03: Uh definitely curly earning his nickname because he was always running, slashing around.
- 38:51SPEAKER_03: Hudson's work on November Rain gave us the most memorable solo of the entire 1990s.
- 38:58SPEAKER_03: Really?
- 38:58SPEAKER_03: I don't know if it was, you know, that's kind of subjective.
- 39:01SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I would say so.
- 39:02SPEAKER_03: Um it was a great solo.
- 39:04SPEAKER_01: Oh, it was a great.
- 39:05SPEAKER_01: That's a great song.
- 39:06SPEAKER_03: Yeah, it is.
- 39:06SPEAKER_01: Use your illusion the double album.
- 39:09SPEAKER_03: It's underrated.
- 39:11SPEAKER_01: It's a really great album.
- 39:12SPEAKER_01: It should have been just one album.
- 39:13SPEAKER_03: I agree.
- 39:14SPEAKER_01: So but it was still really pretty great.
- 39:16SPEAKER_03: Yep, I agree.
- 39:17SPEAKER_01: So, slash.
- 39:19SPEAKER_01: What do we got for drummers?
- 39:20SPEAKER_01: Drummers! S is for Ringo Star.
- 39:24SPEAKER_01: Yeah, baby.
- 39:25SPEAKER_01: Putting the beat in the Beatles.
- 39:27SPEAKER_01: This legendary lefty was universally praised for his innovation and feel.
- 39:32SPEAKER_01: It's hard to imagine the Beatles songs without his swampy psychedelic style of loose hi-hat and ramshackle drum.
- 39:39SPEAKER_01: Ringo truly was a star on the kit.
- 39:42SPEAKER_01: What do you mean was?
- 39:43SPEAKER_01: Right, he still is.
- 39:45SPEAKER_03: He's like 80 years old.
- 39:46SPEAKER_01: I mean, he's still playing.
- 39:48SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 39:48SPEAKER_01: He's not a lefty, though.
- 39:51SPEAKER_01: He might have learned how to play.
- 39:54SPEAKER_01: Righty, but he might be a lefty.
- 39:56SPEAKER_01: But he plays righty.
- 39:59SPEAKER_03: I was looking for to see if Slash ever played with Ringo.
- 40:06SPEAKER_01: Uh and then I can't imagine they did.
- 40:09SPEAKER_03: They must have somewhere.
- 40:10SPEAKER_03: Yeah, they must have somewhere.
- 40:13SPEAKER_03: I don't know what this is.
- 40:14SPEAKER_03: Uh I'm afraid to click on it.
- 40:18SPEAKER_03: Um, actually, I'm gonna click on this just for giggles.
- 40:23SPEAKER_03: I don't know if this has anything to do with uh there's no Ringo here, but what you are listening to is come together with Lizzie Hale, Slash, Gilby Clark, Linda Perry, Blasco, Matt Sorum, and Mike Garson, and Paul Schaefer.
- 40:44SPEAKER_01: Wow.
- 40:47SPEAKER_03: And it seems to be one of those COVID things where they're all in their own place.
- 41:02SPEAKER_03: Just look at those some of those music rooms though.
- 41:06SPEAKER_01: Maybe the one I saw recently.
- 41:08SPEAKER_01: It was Nuno Benicort, Taylor Hawkins before he died, obviously.
- 41:11SPEAKER_01: Yeah, Nancy Wilson, and somebody else doing um Barracuda.
- 41:16SPEAKER_03: Did you see that?
- 41:16SPEAKER_03: I've seen that.
- 41:17SPEAKER_03: Yes, I have seen that.
- 41:19SPEAKER_03: Maybe that's not Paul Schaefer.
- 41:21SPEAKER_03: No, it's not Paul Schaefer.
- 41:23SPEAKER_03: He does look like Paul Schaefer, though.
- 41:25SPEAKER_03: My goodness.
- 41:33SPEAKER_01: I love her voice, man.
- 41:42SPEAKER_03: So essentially, this is Slash, Gilby Clark, and Matt Storm all of Van Hammer.
- 41:48SPEAKER_01: That's Guns N' Roses reunion right there.
- 41:50SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 41:52SPEAKER_03: This was in August of 2020.
- 41:54SPEAKER_00: Oh wow.
- 41:56SPEAKER_03: Why is this the first time I've heard of it?
- 41:57SPEAKER_03: I don't know.
- 41:59SPEAKER_03: It's got over a million views.
- 42:01SPEAKER_01: I believe that.
- 42:03SPEAKER_03: Anyway, I was looking for to see if Slash had ever played.
- 42:05SPEAKER_03: So you think Slash could probably play with Ringo or yeah.
- 42:08SPEAKER_03: I mean That's not a problem.
- 42:09SPEAKER_03: He's played with everybody and everybody.
- 42:11SPEAKER_01: Ringo's played with everybody because he's been around since you know the beginning of Rock and Roll.
- 42:15SPEAKER_03: Right.
- 42:16SPEAKER_03: Right.
- 42:16SPEAKER_03: So did you ever hear that?
- 42:18SPEAKER_03: Um actually I'm going to show you that video sometime.
- 42:20SPEAKER_03: Steve Lukuther put out an album a couple years ago that was okay.
- 42:27SPEAKER_03: I mean, I I don't have the album, but I listened to it.
- 42:29SPEAKER_03: Um and it was just um it was just an okay album.
- 42:35SPEAKER_03: But there's a video um that he did for one of the songs, and you could tell it was like a homemade uh homemade video, and Ringo Starr is all through it.
- 42:46SPEAKER_03: They're they're good butts.
- 42:47SPEAKER_03: Because he plays in Ringo's All-Star Band.
- 42:49SPEAKER_01: Oh, yeah, absolutely.
- 42:51SPEAKER_03: Um yeah, that's Run To Me.
- 42:53SPEAKER_03: And I'll show you that afterwards because it's kind of funny to watch.
- 42:56SPEAKER_03: Um the song I think is is called Run to Me.
- 42:59SPEAKER_03: So featuring Ringo Starr and Joseph Williams.
- 43:03SPEAKER_03: Yep.
- 43:03SPEAKER_03: We'll get to that in a second.
- 43:05SPEAKER_03: So let's close that up.
- 43:08SPEAKER_03: And we're gonna come back, we're gonna climb the wall of tunes.
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- 44:39SPEAKER_03: Um I'm gonna stare at my mess over there so I can take these headphones off.
- 44:44SPEAKER_01: Whatever, dude.
- 44:48SPEAKER_01: I'm always trying to find something else to look at, but the scenery over here never changes.
- 44:53SPEAKER_01: I know.
- 44:54SPEAKER_01: So it will next season.
- 44:57SPEAKER_01: Why?
- 44:58SPEAKER_01: Are we moving to another place?
- 45:00SPEAKER_03: I usually try and change the studio around every time for every season.
- 45:03SPEAKER_01: That's true, you do.
- 45:04SPEAKER_03: I try to.
- 45:05SPEAKER_03: I'm not making any promises.
- 45:08SPEAKER_03: Okay.
- 45:10SPEAKER_03: I have an album.
- 45:12SPEAKER_01: Oh, that was quick.
- 45:13SPEAKER_03: And I don't think you'll get it.
- 45:14SPEAKER_03: Okay.
- 45:14SPEAKER_03: Well, that was fun.
- 45:16SPEAKER_02: Alright, have a good day.
- 45:17SPEAKER_03: See y'all later.
- 45:19SPEAKER_03: You can try and guess.
- 45:20SPEAKER_03: I I think you know this artist.
- 45:23SPEAKER_03: I don't think you know this artist well.
- 45:25SPEAKER_01: Okay.
- 45:26SPEAKER_01: So he's a solo artist.
- 45:27SPEAKER_03: Uh yes.
- 45:30SPEAKER_03: Yes.
- 45:31SPEAKER_03: I'm gonna say yes.
- 45:34SPEAKER_03: Which is it?
- 45:35SPEAKER_01: Well Is he in a band?
- 45:37SPEAKER_03: He's a solo artist.
- 45:39SPEAKER_03: This this particular album is this person and another and a band.
- 45:44SPEAKER_03: Okay.
- 45:45SPEAKER_03: Like John Hyatt and the Goners.
- 45:46SPEAKER_03: Right.
- 45:47SPEAKER_03: Uh so it's like John Hyatt.
- 45:49SPEAKER_03: Except it's not John Hyatt.
- 45:50SPEAKER_03: It's it's it's it's it's this guy, this person and a band.
- 45:54SPEAKER_03: And a band.
- 45:55SPEAKER_01: Is it Alvis Costello?
- 45:56SPEAKER_01: It's not.
- 45:57SPEAKER_01: Okay.
- 45:57SPEAKER_03: No.
- 45:58SPEAKER_03: And again, I I will tell you, um, Shane and I have talked about this artist.
- 46:03unknown: Alright.
- 46:04SPEAKER_01: So that's not helpful.
- 46:06SPEAKER_01: You guys talk about a lot of stuff.
- 46:08SPEAKER_03: You probably won't get it.
- 46:09SPEAKER_03: But do you want to try?
- 46:11SPEAKER_03: Um Mark!
- 46:14SPEAKER_01: No?
- 46:15SPEAKER_01: No, it's not Mark.
- 46:16SPEAKER_01: I took a shot.
- 46:17SPEAKER_01: I don't know.
- 46:18SPEAKER_01: I I I mean, if you don't think I'm gonna get it, then um I don't want to sit here and waste everybody's time.
- 46:23SPEAKER_03: He was a member of the drive-by truckers.
- 46:28SPEAKER_03: Um Jason Isbell.
- 46:36SPEAKER_01: Oh, I never would have got it.
- 46:37SPEAKER_03: And the 400 unit.
- 46:38SPEAKER_03: Okay.
- 46:38SPEAKER_03: No, I never would have got it.
- 46:40SPEAKER_03: Um Amazing.
- 46:42SPEAKER_03: Now, didn't he why do I know that name though?
- 46:46SPEAKER_01: Well, yeah, but didn't he just do his was he part of that uh Metallica Blackened album?
- 46:51SPEAKER_03: Yes, he was.
- 46:52SPEAKER_01: He did uh something sad but true.
- 46:54SPEAKER_01: Sad but true.
- 46:55SPEAKER_03: I think he did Sad But True.
- 46:57SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 46:57SPEAKER_01: I was about to say, as soon as you said the name, it rang a bell.
- 47:01SPEAKER_03: Now that you say that, I want to see if I can find that because yeah, that was that was pretty cool, actually.
- 47:06SPEAKER_03: It wasn't it wasn't bad.
- 47:07SPEAKER_03: No, if I remember right, it was all it was pretty good.
- 47:09SPEAKER_03: His his cover of that.
- 47:11SPEAKER_03: Um He's an amazing songwriter and and singer and guitar player.
- 47:16SPEAKER_03: He's you know he's the uh uh let's see sad but true.
- 47:22SPEAKER_03: Um Let me play uh some of his stuff first before we Yeah.
- 47:27SPEAKER_03: And it it is the 400 unit too.
- 47:29SPEAKER_03: It is Jason is built on the 400 unit covering Sad But True.
- 47:33SPEAKER_03: But this is the first thing I heard.
- 47:35SPEAKER_03: I was I was sitting um actually I was up late at night and I was laying on the couch and I was watching the PBS.
- 47:41SPEAKER_03: PBS had the Americana Awards and uh goodness, this was I don't know how long ago this was.
- 47:51SPEAKER_03: When was this album put out?
- 47:52SPEAKER_03: Because this was this album's from 2011, and the album is called Here We Rest.
- 47:58SPEAKER_03: So it must have been um it was before 2015.
- 48:01SPEAKER_03: Okay.
- 48:02SPEAKER_03: Um, and I heard this song.
- 48:08SPEAKER_03: It was just him and a guitar.
- 48:10SPEAKER_03: And he had somebody singing with him, I think.
- 48:13SPEAKER_04: Well, I moved into this room.
- 48:15SPEAKER_04: If you could call it that a week ago, I never do what I'm supposed to, hardly even know my name anymore.
- 48:25SPEAKER_04: No one calls it out, kinda vanishes away.
- 48:32SPEAKER_04: I can't get to sleep at night, parking lots so loud, crystal.
- 48:40SPEAKER_04: Probably never made a single single.
- 48:44SPEAKER_04: I can't say the same thing.
- 48:46SPEAKER_04: I've done it many times.
- 48:50SPEAKER_04: Somebody take me home through the line.
- 49:01SPEAKER_03: So he was just all by himself up on stage.
- 49:04SPEAKER_03: I think there might have been uh uh someone singing uh harmony with him, and maybe she was playing violin.
- 49:09SPEAKER_03: Actually, he's married to um oh my goodness.
- 49:15SPEAKER_03: She's an artist as well.
- 49:17SPEAKER_03: Okay, she plays violin, all right, or fiddle, or whatever you want to call it, and she's a she's a great artist as well.
- 49:22SPEAKER_03: I can't think of her name off the top of my head, but she's she's great.
- 49:25SPEAKER_03: So she might have been with him, actually.
- 49:27SPEAKER_03: But this was the first exposure I'd had was this song.
- 49:34SPEAKER_03: I immediately went out and got the album.
- 49:36SPEAKER_03: Okay.
- 49:37SPEAKER_03: Uh so this is his band, the 400 unit.
- 49:39SPEAKER_03: Um, and it's folky, it's very John Hyatty.
- 49:47SPEAKER_03: You know, if you like John Hyatt, you'll like Jason Israel.
- 50:03SPEAKER_03: Tom Petty.
- 50:04SPEAKER_03: I mean very petty.
- 50:12SPEAKER_03: It's a long intro.
- 50:25SPEAKER_04: I'm headed home.
- 50:28SPEAKER_03: But there's this one.
- 50:30SPEAKER_03: This is called JC May.
- 50:32SPEAKER_04: This is my other favorite one on the on this album beside me.
- 50:53SPEAKER_04: Close your eyes and feel the new days.
- 50:57SPEAKER_04: These eyes they remind me of a scared symbol before she was a Baptist.
- 51:11SPEAKER_04: He feared the world could end at any time.
- 51:16SPEAKER_04: You are now charged with this.
- 51:18SPEAKER_04: The whole the essence of a kiss.
- 51:21SPEAKER_04: Take these broken plans and make this music you'd call this.
- 51:26SPEAKER_01: It is Americana.
- 51:28SPEAKER_03: Yeah, definitely.
- 51:29SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
- 51:30SPEAKER_01: Um, it's not country, it's not rock, it's not rockabilly, it's not it's a lot of acoustic guitar, but also a lot of electric guitar.
- 51:40SPEAKER_03: I mean this particular song is not, but but the it's stories of, you know, like people.
- 51:49SPEAKER_03: He does have, I mean, he's got a couple solo albums, just Jason is bill.
- 51:53SPEAKER_04: We both know the outside.
- 51:55SPEAKER_03: There is this one.
- 51:58SPEAKER_03: Actually, no, I don't want to play this one.
- 52:01SPEAKER_03: I don't wanna play that one either.
- 52:02SPEAKER_03: I don't wanna play this one.
- 52:03SPEAKER_03: This one here, this is controversial.
- 52:08SPEAKER_03: This is a song about cancer, I think.
- 52:10SPEAKER_03: There's an there's a swear word in this, so just be aware.
- 52:16SPEAKER_03: Cover the kids' ears.
- 52:17SPEAKER_03: This is called Elephant.
- 52:19SPEAKER_04: She said in the you're better than your past, winked in me and drained a glass, cross legged on a bar stool like nobody sits anymore.
- 52:35SPEAKER_04: She said in the taking me home, but I knew she planned to sleep alone.
- 52:43SPEAKER_04: I'd carry her to bed, sweep up the hair from her phone.
- 52:51SPEAKER_04: If I'd fucked her before she got sick, I'd never hear the end of it.
- 52:59SPEAKER_04: She don't have the spirit for that now.
- 53:06SPEAKER_04: We just drink card drinks and laugh out loud.
- 53:15SPEAKER_04: Try to ignore the elephant song now.
- 53:20SPEAKER_03: That's great writing.
- 53:21SPEAKER_01: That is great writing.
- 53:22SPEAKER_03: That's great writing.
- 53:23SPEAKER_01: Wow.
- 53:25SPEAKER_03: Uh obviously a play on the elephant in the room.
- 53:27SPEAKER_03: Yeah, yeah.
- 53:28SPEAKER_03: Um yeah, and and his albums are full of stuff like that.
- 53:32SPEAKER_03: Oh, I'm sure.
- 53:32SPEAKER_03: It's really, really good stuff.
- 53:34SPEAKER_03: So Jason Is Bell and the 400 unit, and so I wanted to play.
- 53:38SPEAKER_03: Uh he did do a cover of um of um Metallica, and I really like it actually.
- 53:48SPEAKER_03: I like Metallica's better, but usually the original note is better.
- 53:52SPEAKER_01: Yeah, usually.
- 53:58SPEAKER_03: So this is from their album Blacklist.
- 54:01SPEAKER_03: Blackened.
- 54:01SPEAKER_03: Blackened Blackened or Blacklist?
- 54:04SPEAKER_03: Is it blackened or blackened?
- 54:05SPEAKER_03: I think it's blacklist.
- 54:06SPEAKER_03: Blackened is their album is Metallica's album.
- 54:09SPEAKER_03: No.
- 54:10SPEAKER_03: No.
- 54:14SPEAKER_03: Oh, it's telling me it's blacklist.
- 54:16SPEAKER_03: Okay.
- 54:18SPEAKER_03: Oh blackened.
- 54:20SPEAKER_04: I'm your life, I'm the one.
- 54:25SPEAKER_04: I'm your life, I'm the one.
- 55:01SPEAKER_03: Now, if you were Metallica and you heard that, I'd be digging it.
- 55:05SPEAKER_01: Really?
- 55:06SPEAKER_01: I mean, yeah, I I agree.
- 55:07SPEAKER_01: I'm sure James Hetfield loves it.
- 55:10SPEAKER_01: Loves it.
- 55:10SPEAKER_01: Oh, yeah.
- 55:11SPEAKER_01: Because he, I mean, he's a country guy at heart.
- 55:13SPEAKER_01: He is, and he's a songwriter, but he's a songwriter.
- 55:16SPEAKER_01: He's a songwriter, you know.
- 55:16SPEAKER_01: He gets it.
- 55:17SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 55:17SPEAKER_01: He gets it.
- 55:18SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
- 55:18SPEAKER_01: Lars, on the other hand, who knows?
- 55:20SPEAKER_01: Uh, you know, but whatever.
- 55:23SPEAKER_03: Did it ever do you ever see that?
- 55:24SPEAKER_03: There's a there's footage of, I know we're getting off on a tangent here, but we do that.
- 55:28SPEAKER_03: Uh there's footage of um Metallica on Howard Stern, where um they're sitting around, they're being interviewed, and um Elton he has Elton John on the phone.
- 55:41SPEAKER_03: It's like a video call.
- 55:42SPEAKER_00: Okay.
- 55:42SPEAKER_03: So Elton John is on the the episode as well, and he's talking about because I think he on I think they're talking about this album actually, Black Rice the Cover.
- 55:51SPEAKER_03: Because I think Elton John does nothing else matters.
- 55:56SPEAKER_01: There's so many songs on that friggin' album.
- 55:58SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
- 55:58SPEAKER_01: Or he has like a four it's a four-disc album.
- 56:02SPEAKER_03: He has something to do with Nothing Else Matters.
- 56:06SPEAKER_03: Um anyway, he well he does he does have it.
- 56:10SPEAKER_03: Let's see if I can find it here.
- 56:13SPEAKER_03: Um He complimented James Hetfield as as as as a songwriter.
- 56:22SPEAKER_03: And James Hetfield got very emotional.
- 56:24SPEAKER_03: Really?
- 56:25SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
- 56:25SPEAKER_03: Because Delton John.
- 56:28SPEAKER_03: Oh yeah.
- 56:29SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
- 56:31SPEAKER_03: He says he I can't remember what he said.
- 56:35SPEAKER_03: Um, so you haven't heard this?
- 57:01SPEAKER_01: I guess n I I have heard it.
- 57:03SPEAKER_01: I just forgot about it, yeah.
- 57:04SPEAKER_01: Like I said, it's a five disc album, man.
- 57:06SPEAKER_01: It's hard to remember everything.
- 57:07SPEAKER_03: So that's what he said.
- 57:08SPEAKER_03: Elton John said this is one of the best songs ever written.
- 57:11SPEAKER_01: Really?
- 57:11SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
- 57:13SPEAKER_03: That's that's high praise.
- 57:14SPEAKER_00: That is high praise.
- 57:28SPEAKER_03: That's not Elton John.
- 57:29SPEAKER_03: No.
- 57:31SPEAKER_03: Oh, that's Miley's Tyrus.
- 57:33SPEAKER_03: That's Miley's Miley's Tyrus.
- 57:34SPEAKER_03: That's Miley's Tyrus, but he thinks too.
- 57:39SPEAKER_00: Yep, that's Miley's tires.
- 58:02SPEAKER_03: Maybe he's just playing piano.
- 58:04SPEAKER_03: Maybe.
- 58:04SPEAKER_03: I don't know.
- 58:05SPEAKER_03: I've been heard of him.
- 58:06SPEAKER_03: Yeah, it says it says Elton John.
- 58:08SPEAKER_03: Nothing else matters, but that's with Miley Cyrus.
- 58:11SPEAKER_03: So and it was a lockdown session.
- 58:13SPEAKER_03: Oh, yeah.
- 58:14SPEAKER_03: Of course.
- 58:25SPEAKER_03: It doesn't seem like he's singing at all.
- 58:26SPEAKER_03: No, it doesn't really.
- 58:27SPEAKER_03: Uh and actually it says it's on Elton John's album.
- 58:30SPEAKER_03: Really?
- 58:30SPEAKER_03: The lockdown sessions.
- 58:31SPEAKER_03: Interesting.
- 58:32SPEAKER_03: Not on the black uh, I wonder if I can get away with playing this.
- 58:40SPEAKER_03: Uh I probably shouldn't play anything from Howard Stern shows.
- 58:43SPEAKER_03: Yeah, it's not.
- 58:44SPEAKER_03: But I w I just wanted to hear what uh Elton had to say, but yeah, it's probably a good idea not to play it.
- 58:50SPEAKER_03: Um but yeah, cool.
- 58:52SPEAKER_03: Cool stuff.
- 58:53SPEAKER_03: Jason Isabel Metallica.
- 58:55SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
- 58:56SPEAKER_01: Yeah, but I think a lot of Jane's Hetfield comes from his childhood.
- 59:00SPEAKER_01: He didn't have a very good childhood.
- 59:02SPEAKER_03: And he uh he battled a lot of demons to get where where he is.
- 59:05SPEAKER_03: Yeah, so I think that a lot of comes uh from uh you know his upbringing and if you have not listened, I mean because you know, for for the non-educated, like or or the um the non-metallica listener.
- 59:22SPEAKER_01: If you just discovered Metallica through stranger things, this is what Right.
- 59:26SPEAKER_03: But what I mean is because you can sell a lot of times you don't pay attention to the lyrics because you're you're banging your head.
- 59:32SPEAKER_03: Right.
- 59:32SPEAKER_03: James Hatfield's lyrics are pretty deep.
- 59:34SPEAKER_03: They're pretty deep, yeah.
- 59:36SPEAKER_03: Yeah, and very very poetic.
- 59:38SPEAKER_01: And they've gotten, you know, if you go from kill them all until now, yeah, you'll see a very big, you know, just a very broad opening of lyrics.
- 59:48SPEAKER_03: I agree.
- 59:48SPEAKER_01: You know?
- 59:48SPEAKER_01: Yep.
- 59:49SPEAKER_01: So you can uh it's just the fact that you know, like Miley Cyrus and Elton John are all you may can you imagine when Master of Puppets first came out?
- 59:59SPEAKER_01: Right.
- 1:00:00SPEAKER_03: They were they wanted to be as far away from them as possible.
- 1:00:03SPEAKER_01: People nobody ever would have thought if you if you'd said back in 1985, hey Metalli Elton John's gonna cover one of your songs, they would have been like, you are out of your freaking gourd.
- 1:00:17SPEAKER_03: Listen, they didn't even get they didn't even have a heavy metal um section for the Grammys until the 90s.
- 1:00:25SPEAKER_03: Exactly, I think, right?
- 1:00:26SPEAKER_03: Something like that.
- 1:00:27SPEAKER_03: And late 80s, early 90s.
- 1:00:28SPEAKER_03: Late 80s, yeah.
- 1:00:29SPEAKER_03: Because and Metallica lost to Jethro Tull.
- 1:00:31SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
- 1:00:32SPEAKER_03: You know, it's like, come on.
- 1:00:34SPEAKER_01: Even even when the black album came out, if he said, hey, Elton John's gonna cover one of your songs.
- 1:00:39SPEAKER_01: Yeah, okay.
- 1:00:40SPEAKER_01: Right, right.
- 1:00:41SPEAKER_01: Like, okay, what?
- 1:00:42SPEAKER_03: The black album came out, and look who's laughing now.
- 1:00:44SPEAKER_03: Exactly.
- 1:00:45SPEAKER_03: I mean, I mean, yeah.
- 1:00:46SPEAKER_03: Yeah, one of the best.
- 1:00:48SPEAKER_01: But what was that from the behind the music?
- 1:00:50SPEAKER_01: Jason Newstead?
- 1:00:51SPEAKER_01: Yes.
- 1:00:51SPEAKER_01: Yeah, we sold out.
- 1:00:52SPEAKER_01: We're selling out stadiums.
- 1:00:54SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
- 1:00:55SPEAKER_03: Every night.
- 1:00:56SPEAKER_01: Every night.
- 1:00:56SPEAKER_01: Every night.
- 1:00:57SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
- 1:00:58SPEAKER_03: All right.
- 1:00:59SPEAKER_03: Once again, we went on a tangent, but that's okay.
- 1:01:00SPEAKER_03: That's what we do here.
- 1:01:01SPEAKER_03: That's what we do here.
- 1:01:02SPEAKER_01: So that's what the fun dungeon's about.
- 1:01:04SPEAKER_03: Absolutely.
- 1:01:05SPEAKER_01: Um the tangenital, tangenital fun dungeon.
- 1:01:09SPEAKER_02: The tangenital fun dungeon?
- 1:01:12SPEAKER_02: I don't know.
- 1:01:15SPEAKER_02: Is that even a word?
- 1:01:16SPEAKER_02: That's the name of the podcast.
- 1:01:17SPEAKER_02: What?
- 1:01:18SPEAKER_02: Tangental dungeons.
- 1:01:18SPEAKER_02: This is this week's episode.
- 1:01:19SPEAKER_02: The tangenital fun dungeon.
- 1:01:23SPEAKER_01: You never know where we're gonna go.
- 1:01:26SPEAKER_01: We don't even know where we're gonna go.
- 1:01:29SPEAKER_01: That's the beauty of it.
- 1:01:30SPEAKER_01: The tangenital fun dungeon.
- 1:01:33SPEAKER_01: The beauty of the tangenital fun dungeon.
- 1:01:35SPEAKER_02: Just the fact that he said genital.
- 1:01:39SPEAKER_02: What?
- 1:01:40SPEAKER_02: Genital.
- 1:01:42SPEAKER_01: Tangent gen.
- 1:01:43SPEAKER_01: Oh yeah.
- 1:01:45SPEAKER_02: You didn't get that?
- 1:01:46SPEAKER_01: No.
- 1:01:47SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
- 1:01:47SPEAKER_02: Well, I maybe it's just my my teenager mind.
- 1:01:50SPEAKER_01: I misspeak a lot.
- 1:01:53SPEAKER_01: No.
- 1:01:53SPEAKER_01: I'm not very smart.
- 1:01:56SPEAKER_01: Is tangenital a word?
- 1:01:58SPEAKER_01: I think so.
- 1:02:00SPEAKER_01: Tangenital.
- 1:02:01SPEAKER_03: If it's not, it's n it's a word now.
- 1:02:03SPEAKER_01: Well it's tangent.
- 1:02:04SPEAKER_03: Right?
- 1:02:05SPEAKER_01: Tangenital.
- 1:02:06SPEAKER_01: It just makes sense.
- 1:02:09SPEAKER_01: I'm not sure what that's.
- 1:02:10SPEAKER_03: Tangential.
- 1:02:11SPEAKER_03: What?
- 1:02:12SPEAKER_03: Tangential.
- 1:02:21SPEAKER_01: What do you think about your pronunciation?
- 1:02:24SPEAKER_03: I like mine better.
- 1:02:27SPEAKER_03: Tangen tangential.
- 1:02:29SPEAKER_03: Tangential.
- 1:02:30SPEAKER_03: Tangential.
- 1:02:31SPEAKER_03: But I want to hear it said.
- 1:02:33SPEAKER_03: Oh no, wait.
- 1:02:34SPEAKER_03: No, yeah, it's chang tangential thought process.
- 1:02:37SPEAKER_03: Tangential.
- 1:02:40SPEAKER_03: I can't believe it.
- 1:02:42SPEAKER_01: I want to hear it.
- 1:02:43SPEAKER_02: How do I how do I do that?
- 1:02:44SPEAKER_02: I don't know.
- 1:02:45SPEAKER_03: Um Google.
- 1:02:53SPEAKER_01: Hey Google.
- 1:02:55SPEAKER_01: Hey Google.
- 1:02:55SPEAKER_03: Wait, I got one.
- 1:02:57SPEAKER_01: How do you say tangential?
- 1:02:59SPEAKER_01: Tangential.
- 1:03:01SPEAKER_01: Tangential.
- 1:03:02SPEAKER_03: Tangential.
- 1:03:03SPEAKER_03: Tangential.
- 1:03:04SPEAKER_03: Which is a far cry.
- 1:03:05SPEAKER_03: Which is a far cry from tangenital.
- 1:03:08SPEAKER_01: But it's spelled almost spelled the same.
- 1:03:10SPEAKER_02: Genteal.
- 1:03:12SPEAKER_01: Tangential.
- 1:03:13SPEAKER_01: Tangenital.
- 1:03:16SPEAKER_01: I can't do it.
- 1:03:16SPEAKER_01: I can't do it.
- 1:03:18SPEAKER_01: That's okay.
- 1:03:18SPEAKER_01: I like tangenital.
- 1:03:19SPEAKER_01: I don't like it anymore.
- 1:03:21SPEAKER_01: It's lost its It's lost the magic.
- 1:03:27SPEAKER_01: Stories from the Ten Gentile Fun dungeon.
- 1:03:29SPEAKER_01: Tangenital Fun dungeon story.
- 1:03:33SPEAKER_02: That's the name of the episode.
- 1:03:34SPEAKER_02: It is.
- 1:03:35SPEAKER_02: Alright, and that episode is season six, episode 15.
- 1:03:38SPEAKER_01: Five more! Five more! We got a month left of this season.
- 1:03:42SPEAKER_01: Yep.
- 1:03:42SPEAKER_01: We gotta figure out what we're gonna do for uh.
- 1:03:44SPEAKER_01: Do we though?
- 1:03:46SPEAKER_01: No.
- 1:03:47SPEAKER_02: I mean we should.
- 1:03:49SPEAKER_01: Wow.
- 1:03:50SPEAKER_01: Going back to the three P's of podcasting prepare preparation and professionalism.
- 1:03:57SPEAKER_02: What was the third one?
- 1:03:59SPEAKER_01: Podcast.
- 1:04:13SPEAKER_01: We're professionals.
- 1:04:16SPEAKER_02: We know what we're doing.
- 1:04:18SPEAKER_02: That's it.
- 1:04:19SPEAKER_02: That's it.
- 1:04:20SPEAKER_02: That's all.
- 1:04:20SPEAKER_01: I bet I bet somebody uses like when you go to those big podcast conventions.
- 1:04:24SPEAKER_01: I bet somebody plays this and goes, Don't do this.
- 1:04:29SPEAKER_01: Don't be like these morons.
- 1:04:32SPEAKER_02: Until next week, I'm O'Brien.
- 1:04:34SPEAKER_01: I'm Doug.
- 1:04:35SPEAKER_01: Bye everybody! Tangental.
- 1:04:39SPEAKER_03: The O'Brien and Doug podcast is brought to you in part by Mojirmultimedia.com, KMX Music in Prescott Isle, Maine, The Ridge Runner in Westfield, Maine, and Doug's cousin, Larry.
- 1:04:50SPEAKER_03: Be sure to follow O'Brien and Doug on Facebook, Instagram, and YouTube.
- 1:04:54SPEAKER_03: Drop them an email anytime at O'Brienandug at gmail.com.
- 1:04:58SPEAKER_05: Well, good night.