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Inside the Jaguars Week 2 Matchup With Fred Taylor, Dan Hoard and More · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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  Speaker 1: We have arrived at week two, the Jaguars visit the
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  Speaker 1: Cincinnati Bengals.
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  Speaker 2: J P.
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  Speaker 1: Shadwick with you with our weekly pregame interviews on Countown
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  Speaker 1: to kickoff four conversations to hear this week, starting with
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  Speaker 1: pride of the Jaguars running back Fred Taylor coming off
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  Speaker 1: a win. Fred, it's been a busy week. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: let's get right into the biggest news of the week,
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  Speaker 1: and it has to do with running backs. Certainly, Tank
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  Speaker 1: Bigsby traded to the Eagles the day after Week one.
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  Speaker 1: They finally came to a head. There were four running backs.
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  Speaker 1: What's your reaction.
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  Speaker 3: My initial reaction was, you know, they have a pretty
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  Speaker 3: crowded room. I thought it was great by you know,
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  Speaker 3: Gladstone in the front office to be able to try
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  Speaker 3: and secure you know, draft picks, some draft capital that
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  Speaker 3: will help you know, the team going forward. You know,
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  Speaker 3: in those later rounds you can actually find some great
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  Speaker 3: value plays in terms of gathering picks. And I believe
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  Speaker 3: with you know you have two, you have Alan, you
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  Speaker 3: know who they primarily played every third down snap. He
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  Speaker 3: was like the third down starter, uh for for week
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  Speaker 3: one as a rookie.
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  Speaker 2: That's huge. So there's some confidence in the room.
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  Speaker 3: So and then you look at the performance of Travis
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  Speaker 3: Etn that made his decision much easier for them to
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  Speaker 3: go ahead and trade.
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  Speaker 2: Tank Bigsby. So a pretty good deal, I believe, for
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  Speaker 2: both teams.
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  Speaker 3: For the Eagles, I think that's a good insurance play having,
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  Speaker 3: you know, take one Barkley there.
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  Speaker 2: But I believe Tank he fits that offense.
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  Speaker 3: My only issue ever with Tank was that putting a
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  Speaker 3: ball on the ground, and maybe they've seen enough of
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  Speaker 3: that over the years because other than that, I think
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  Speaker 3: he's a solid runner.
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  Speaker 1: And Eagles could probably use him as a kick returner
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  Speaker 1: as well, and the Jags will be looking looking for
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  Speaker 1: that and we'll see what they come up with ahead
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  Speaker 1: of the big those Washington. Yeah, well that's one. You
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  Speaker 1: need to have another one back there too. I'll kick off, so, well,
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  Speaker 1: see who the second guy is, all right, Fred, let's
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  Speaker 1: dig into this Etn performance. Looking back at it, though,
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  Speaker 1: had the big run seventy one, would love to take
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  Speaker 1: that to the house, but didn't. Overall, a really good day,
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  Speaker 1: and it starts up front. That offensive line I think
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  Speaker 1: had a fantastic day in the run game, certainly, but
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  Speaker 1: quarterback only got hit one time as well. You got
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  Speaker 1: to give those five guys some credit.
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  Speaker 4: Oh.
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  Speaker 3: I was calling for those guys in our post game.
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  Speaker 3: I was calling for them to hopefully they received game
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  Speaker 3: balls to start out the season, because you got to
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  Speaker 3: keep them encourage and motivated and obviously just simply rewarded.
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  Speaker 3: They did an amazing job zero sacks. As you mentioned,
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  Speaker 3: a quarterback was hit once two hundred yards rushing. Just
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  Speaker 3: to slide the performance across the board. Here, they have
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  Speaker 3: an opportunity to go in and try and do it
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  Speaker 3: again against the Bengals defense, who over the course of
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  Speaker 3: the past several years, they've been known to be a
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  Speaker 3: pretty solid defense for the most part, or at least
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  Speaker 3: up front. They have a pretty good defense front. So
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  Speaker 3: it'll be a good challenge early season challenge. But you
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  Speaker 3: have to be able to be consistent and steady, and
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  Speaker 3: if Travis can continue to have the sort of quickness
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  Speaker 3: and bursts and speed that he displayed, I think that'll
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  Speaker 3: make their job a lot easier. So they have to
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  Speaker 3: work in cohesion, and you know, last week they showed
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  Speaker 3: that it's possible. I saw a few miscuts by the
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  Speaker 3: Backs last week, but again I hadn't been able to
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  Speaker 3: watch the film in its entirety, just kind of you know,
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  Speaker 3: split decision glimpses from my vantage point, which is the
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  Speaker 3: West Club, right, which isn't a great vantage point, but
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  Speaker 3: the speed of the game sort of takes you there.
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  Speaker 3: So they were following their instincts. But again, I'm sure
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  Speaker 3: they've probably watched the film and say, hey, maybe if
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  Speaker 3: I had gone here, that was a house call, because
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  Speaker 3: I know if I was back there, it's a house call.
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  Speaker 1: Fred Taylor is speaking, and that's that makes a lot
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  Speaker 1: of sense. He's not telling any lines either. Fred. Let's
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  Speaker 1: get into this Bengals offense now. Joe Burrow. They were
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  Speaker 1: held down last week. The Browns defense did really well
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  Speaker 1: against him, but defense pretty good up front with me, Scarett, Right,
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  Speaker 1: they're gonna get some like Joe Burrow is gonna connect
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  Speaker 1: with Jamar Chase and you just have to deal with that.
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  Speaker 2: Sometimes.
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  Speaker 1: Give us your perspective on Joe Burrow, his competitive nature,
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  Speaker 1: what he does in game for this team, and how
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  Speaker 1: he elevates everybody. It feels like he's right there in
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  Speaker 1: the top five in the league. No sisty Burrow, right,
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  Speaker 1: that's what they call him. Joe shisty. Yeah, Ice in
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  Speaker 1: his veins man one of my favorite quarterbacks and then
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  Speaker 1: entire league. He's always poised, although he can be rattled
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  Speaker 1: at times, but you rarely ever see that. Your defensive
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  Speaker 1: front has to come play, you know. I think he
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  Speaker 1: was sacked three times last week, led by Miles Garrett,
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  Speaker 1: and that Brown's defense, which has also been very solid.
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  Speaker 3: Their offense has been their struggles. But that's another you
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  Speaker 3: know game you know at another time. But again you
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  Speaker 3: have to play tight up front and also good coverage
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  Speaker 3: on the back. As you mentioned Jamar Chase triple Crown
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  Speaker 3: winner from a year ago. Also t Higgins, someone who's
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  Speaker 3: motivated and wants to show that he's worth every penny
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  Speaker 3: that they pay him this offseason. So you have two
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  Speaker 3: guys and those two receivers who are more than capable
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  Speaker 3: of getting it done.
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  Speaker 2: Then you got to deal with you know.
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  Speaker 3: Is Chase Brown right out of the backfield. He's a load.
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  Speaker 3: So that's that's the big three. You throw Joe Burrow
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  Speaker 3: in there. Our defense has his hands full again, you
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  Speaker 3: have an opportunity to go out there and be opportunistic
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  Speaker 3: as they were last week with the amount of turnovers
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  Speaker 3: that came away with in that game. That's what it's
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  Speaker 3: going to take in order to beat this Bengals team.
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  Speaker 3: Three offensive or three turnovers, two turnover on downs, another
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  Speaker 3: pick six that was called back. The best performance we've
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  Speaker 3: seen from this defense since twenty seventeen, hands down, in
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  Speaker 3: my opinion, we need to see them duplicate that in
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  Speaker 3: order to be or get close to that to be
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  Speaker 3: successful today.
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  Speaker 1: And when the hands are on the football defensively, you've
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  Speaker 1: got to make the play. You can't give Burrow a
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  Speaker 1: second shot at it, because routinely when he has a
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  Speaker 1: second shot when there's a dropped interception, he's throwing a
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  Speaker 1: touchdown pass.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, without a doubt.
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  Speaker 3: And if Rex Ryan had his way, you would see
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  Speaker 3: Travis Hunter on the defense full times doing that, having
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  Speaker 3: those chances to make those sort of plays.
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  Speaker 2: Ball statement by Rex. But we're in Jacksonville. We do
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  Speaker 2: what we do down the Duvall.
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  Speaker 3: Douvall is in charge, and uh, you know, it'd be
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  Speaker 3: good to see him over there.
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  Speaker 2: I think Tyson had a really solid game.
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  Speaker 3: He's gonna have to, uh do have that sort of
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  Speaker 3: performance again.
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  Speaker 2: Uh.
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  Speaker 3: Just a huge play last week by Tyson against mcmiller
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  Speaker 3: late in the game knowing the ball was going that way,
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  Speaker 3: and he stepped up to the challenge. It's gonna be
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  Speaker 3: a big challenge this week after what happened over there
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  Speaker 3: in Cleveland with Jamar Chase and t Higgins. You better
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  Speaker 3: believe the Bengals are gonna come out looking for shots
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  Speaker 3: and opportunities to get the ball to those guys.
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  Speaker 2: So the secondary, you know, we're gonna have to be
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  Speaker 2: on point.
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  Speaker 3: And they played great last week, came away with some
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  Speaker 3: big plays, some PBUs that led to early turnovers. So
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  Speaker 3: expecting that again. But it starts up front. Uh, So
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  Speaker 3: we'll see how it goes. JP Fred will talk to
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  Speaker 3: you in the post game. Pleasure.
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  Speaker 2: There is always you know where I'll be at, man
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  Speaker 2: right here to wait.
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  Speaker 1: Brian Sexton caught up with Jaguars offensive line coach Sean
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  Speaker 1: Sarrett this week after a dominant performance from his group
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  Speaker 1: in Week.
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  Speaker 4: One, talking about it, like you said, that was the
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  Speaker 4: first time those guys had played in a game together
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  Speaker 4: for a full game, and it takes all eleven you know,
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  Speaker 4: don't kids yourself by that. But it was good to
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  Speaker 4: see them jail finally, you know, instead of being out
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  Speaker 4: of practice or different guys in different positions. We had
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  Speaker 4: our starting five in the positions we wanted them, and
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  Speaker 4: they came together and it worked.
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  Speaker 5: You've been around this game long enough to see how
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  Speaker 5: it's changed in terms of how much you hit during
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  Speaker 5: training camp and how much time they get on the
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  Speaker 5: practice field. Was there at least a sense of curiosity,
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  Speaker 5: I don't want to say nervousness, but you know about
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  Speaker 5: finally getting them on the grass together, Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: There was. You know, it's the idea of like even
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  Speaker 4: a practice, it's kind of a controlled environment a little bit.
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  Speaker 4: And then when he got out there in the game,
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  Speaker 4: you just want to see him go, and they went.
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  Speaker 4: They did. They played hard, and they played hard as
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  Speaker 4: a group.
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  Speaker 5: Within three decades of doing this, I've never met an
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  Speaker 5: offensive line coach that was satisfied. So tell me how
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  Speaker 5: the practice field was for you this week. Coming off
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  Speaker 5: a good game.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, coming out on a Tuesday, you know,
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  Speaker 4: those guys are going to be sore as usual, so
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  Speaker 4: you know, we have to get them back going, you know,
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  Speaker 4: and they did well with it. You know, they came out,
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  Speaker 4: they worked hard, and then today we had a real
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  Speaker 4: physical practice today. I could feel the intent of the practice.
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  Speaker 4: I could feel what they were trying to do out
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  Speaker 4: there on the field, and it was it was good day.
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  Speaker 5: Tell me about Robert Hainsey and what he's meant. I mean,
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  Speaker 5: obviously he's the only other guy in the quarterback that
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  Speaker 5: touches the ball every place, so he's pretty important. But
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  Speaker 5: in terms of installing the running game, like Liam wants
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  Speaker 5: to see coming from Tampa year one, what are your
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  Speaker 5: thoughts on him so far?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, he's been unbelievable. He's really turned it into our
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  Speaker 4: field general, on the classroom and on the field, you know,
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  Speaker 4: and that's a guy that those guys look toward, they
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  Speaker 4: lean on him for questions. He's been awesome. You know.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know how we could do this without him.
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  Speaker 5: He talks about running when you want to run. As
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  Speaker 5: an offensive line coach, what does that mean? Can you
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  Speaker 5: describe that to our listeners?
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  Speaker 4: Well, you said it perfectly, run when you want to run,
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  Speaker 4: so on third down or on fourth down, you know,
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  Speaker 4: just like in the game that first series he went
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  Speaker 4: forward on fourth down. We knew we had to get it,
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  Speaker 4: got to run the ball, We got to.
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  Speaker 5: Go two hundred yards. Rushing is not an easy thing
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  Speaker 5: to do, Like you said it takes all eleven. How
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  Speaker 5: about the cohesion between the running backs and the offensive line.
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  Speaker 5: That's not something that just happens. You work on that
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  Speaker 5: during the week right in the film room.
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  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah, we're meeting as a group. We're actually
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  Speaker 4: getting ready to go meet right now and we'll watch
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  Speaker 4: the run game together. Then we'll get together later on
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  Speaker 4: and watch the protections. And just like you said, it's
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  Speaker 4: not easy, and that's the thing they're geling. They're still
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  Speaker 4: learning one another. They know filled they'll fill out how
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  Speaker 4: they play and everything else. But they came together, man,
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  Speaker 4: and it was awesome, you know. Along with that two
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  Speaker 4: hundred yards rushing. You know, another hard thing was was
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  Speaker 4: no sacks. That's very hard to do as a unit,
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  Speaker 4: you know, to give that meant you know, running that
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  Speaker 4: ball like that and protect the quarterback like that.
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  Speaker 5: From that perspective, ninety one for Cincinnati is a beast.
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  Speaker 5: How do you handle a guy like Trey Hendricks? And
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  Speaker 5: is it Walker Little's got to have the best game
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  Speaker 5: of his career or is it a team effort?
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  Speaker 4: No, it really is a team effort.
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  Speaker 2: I know.
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  Speaker 4: For Walker, I just need the best version of him,
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  Speaker 4: you know, and he knows what that is. You know,
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  Speaker 4: he gives it every day out here, and he gives
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  Speaker 4: it on Sundays. You know, we'll have a plan for
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  Speaker 4: ninety one and we'll see how it goes.
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  Speaker 2: You know.
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  Speaker 4: You know, he's a hell of a player and he's
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  Speaker 4: proved it. You know, lead led the NFL last year
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  Speaker 4: in sacks and man, he can rush the quarterback. We're
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  Speaker 4: you know, we're gonna have a game plan for it
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  Speaker 4: and we'll go to work.
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  Speaker 5: And I think the final thought, Sean, is that everyone
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  Speaker 5: wants multiple offensive lineman guys they complete left and right
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  Speaker 5: and guard and center, and everyone talks about developing that.
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  Speaker 5: It sure seems like you have an abundance of that,
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  Speaker 5: whether we're talking about it Tuma or Wyatt Milam. You know,
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  Speaker 5: when he gets back, talk about your group and the
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  Speaker 5: versatility that you've developed so far.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's something the front office has done an awesome
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  Speaker 4: job here. You know, they put these they put these
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  Speaker 4: pieces together in the off season, and I didn't realize
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  Speaker 4: what I had to I had it. You know, you
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  Speaker 4: can put them in these spots, you put them into
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  Speaker 4: situations you know they can handle it, and you're like,
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  Speaker 4: oh wow. You know in case somebody goes down, I
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  Speaker 4: can pull plug and pull guys in different positions and
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  Speaker 4: it just it makes up my job a lot easier.
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  Speaker 5: So the standard for this group is high, I know it.
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  Speaker 5: How close to the standard were you in Week one?
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  Speaker 5: And how close do you expect to be this week?
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  Speaker 4: They met the standard. They did. They came out and
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  Speaker 4: played physical, they were covered the ball, they were picking
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  Speaker 4: the ball carrier up. You know, they're covering downfield. And
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  Speaker 4: that's just something they know. It's every week, you know,
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  Speaker 4: and that's something we're going to straw for every week.
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  Speaker 4: You know. We can't now we set the standard. Now
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  Speaker 4: we got to do it every week now.
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  Speaker 1: The Bengals perspective from the radio voice of the Bengals,
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  Speaker 1: Dan Horde and plenty to discuss about a team that
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  Speaker 1: feels like their Super Bowl.
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  Speaker 4: Window is wide open.
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  Speaker 1: Great to speak with you again, Dan.
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  Speaker 6: Here we are JP likewise, good to have a Bengals
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  Speaker 6: Jags game to look forward.
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  Speaker 1: To, I know. And it's been a good series of
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  Speaker 1: course throughout the history old AFC Central rivals back in
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  Speaker 1: the old days, and the Jags heading to Cincinnati for
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  Speaker 1: the first time on a road trip since twenty twenty one,
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  Speaker 1: Let's dig into this Bengals team. You're expecting all these
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  Speaker 1: fireworks and points and yardage and they barely beat the Browns.
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  Speaker 1: And what was a really kind of interesting defensive struggle
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  Speaker 1: last week and week one?
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  Speaker 4: What was it about that?
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  Speaker 1: And what's the feedback after Week one with this Cincinnati team?
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  Speaker 6: The feedback is one to oh and after starting each
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  Speaker 6: of the last three seasons zero to two. Nobody cares
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  Speaker 6: about how it looked the last time I checked the
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  Speaker 6: standings JP. You've got wins, losses, games behind, points scored,
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  Speaker 6: points against. There's nothing in there for uw ugly win
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  Speaker 6: or pl pretty loss. So the Bengals are happy to
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  Speaker 6: be one to oher. Having said that, if you had
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  Speaker 6: told me before the game that the Bengals would win
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  Speaker 6: in spite of their offense, I would have been shocked.
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  Speaker 6: I think everybody that follows this team kind of knows
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  Speaker 6: the storyline. The Bengals are likely to be one of
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  Speaker 6: the higher scoring teams in the league by the end
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  Speaker 6: of the year. The question is can the defense be
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  Speaker 6: better than it's been. It doesn't have to be top
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  Speaker 6: five with the offense that they have, but it can't
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  Speaker 6: be bottom five like it was last year. So the
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  Speaker 6: defense looked terrific in Week one. Hopefully that will be
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  Speaker 6: the case for the rest of the year. And I
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  Speaker 6: think everybody that follows the Bengals isn't too concerned about
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  Speaker 6: the offense long term.
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  Speaker 1: Dan One of the question marks has been throughout the
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  Speaker 1: career of Joe Burrow, who is from the outside looking in,
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  Speaker 1: you have a better idea of this is lack of
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  Speaker 1: protection for him. He's a sack away from two hundred
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  Speaker 1: in his career and he's played seventy football games in
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  Speaker 1: the NFL. The what has the organization done to address
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  Speaker 1: the protection of Burrow?
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  Speaker 6: Well, since the Super Bowl in twenty twenty one, they've
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  Speaker 6: done a lot to try to improve the protection in
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  Speaker 6: front of him. The following off season after that, they
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  Speaker 6: signed three free agents a center, a right guard, and
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  Speaker 6: a right tackle. The next year, they signed the highest
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  Speaker 6: priced free agent offensive lineman available in that cycle, Orlando
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  Speaker 6: Brown Junior, who's their left tackle now. The year after that,
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  Speaker 6: their first round draft pick was their right tackle, Amarus Mims,
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  Speaker 6: who I think is going to be an excellent player.
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  Speaker 6: This year, they drafted Dylan Fairchild in the third round.
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  Speaker 6: He's starting at left guard and they two more free
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  Speaker 6: agents to compete for the right guard position. And right now,
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  Speaker 6: Dalton Reisner is the guy that's going to start against Jacksonville.
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  Speaker 6: So they keep trying to improve it. It has gotten better.
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  Speaker 6: Nobody would say it's elite, unfortunately, but the hope is
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  Speaker 6: it keeps getting better and better and better, and Joe
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  Speaker 6: will take fewer and fewer and fewer hits.
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  Speaker 1: He's not scared to stand in there though. Way. That's
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  Speaker 1: what you like about Burrow is that he's not gonna
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  Speaker 1: tucktail and run around. I mean he stands in there
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  Speaker 1: and takes those hits and pushes the ball down the field.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, yes, and no, there are times you would like
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  Speaker 6: him to protect himself a little bit more. Joe maybe
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  Speaker 6: has gotten two percent better at that over the course
• 15:40
  Speaker 6: of his NFL career, but there have certainly been times
• 15:43
  Speaker 6: where we're all cringing and looking through our fingers as
• 15:48
  Speaker 6: the play develops, and then he pulls off a miraculous
• 15:51
  Speaker 6: player that goes for a fifty yard game and you're like,
• 15:53
  Speaker 6: wait to go, Joe. But there are times that it
• 15:57
  Speaker 6: would be prudent for him to chuck it out of
• 15:59
  Speaker 6: bounds and live for the next play.
• 16:01
  Speaker 1: Dan Hord with US voice of the Cincinnati Bengals, Jamar
• 16:04
  Speaker 1: Chase T. Higgins. I mean, this is the best duo
• 16:07
  Speaker 1: I think in the NFL right now. What's the next
• 16:10
  Speaker 1: step for them as a wide receiver duo.
• 16:13
  Speaker 6: I don't know that there is one, honestly, except in
• 16:16
  Speaker 6: Tea's case, to try to stay healthier. He's had some
• 16:19
  Speaker 6: hamstring issues over the last couple of years and have
• 16:22
  Speaker 6: missed has missed five games in each of those seasons.
• 16:25
  Speaker 6: But in terms of their on field production, it really
• 16:27
  Speaker 6: can't be much better. So the question is the guys
• 16:30
  Speaker 6: around them. You know what you're going to get in
• 16:33
  Speaker 6: Chase and Higgins. So who's the third wide receiver? I
• 16:37
  Speaker 6: think andre Yosi Vosh is an emerging young talent, A
• 16:41
  Speaker 6: late draft pick a few years ago out of Princeton.
• 16:43
  Speaker 6: He had a tremendous camp and he has caught ten
• 16:45
  Speaker 6: touchdown passes in his first two NFL seasons. So I'm
• 16:49
  Speaker 6: not sure if many people know that name, but I
• 16:51
  Speaker 6: think he's a really talented guy. They extended the contract
• 16:54
  Speaker 6: of Mike Kasiki, a tight end after he had a
• 16:57
  Speaker 6: very good first year in Cincinnati, and then went out
• 16:59
  Speaker 6: and ad a former first round draft pick to go
• 17:01
  Speaker 6: with him in Noah Fant, who had excellent Bengals debut
• 17:05
  Speaker 6: last week with four catches, including a touchdown against the Browns,
• 17:08
  Speaker 6: and then in the running game. Chase Brown over the
• 17:11
  Speaker 6: last eight games of last season, was probably the third
• 17:14
  Speaker 6: best running back in the NFL, behind Saquon Barkley and
• 17:17
  Speaker 6: Derrick Henry. Chase didn't have a great first week against Cleveland.
• 17:22
  Speaker 6: He did score a touchdown in the game, but if
• 17:24
  Speaker 6: you look back over the last eight games of last year,
• 17:27
  Speaker 6: he averaged one hundred and sixteen scrimmage yards between rushing
• 17:31
  Speaker 6: and receiving. Again, that would have been third best in
• 17:34
  Speaker 6: the NFL during that stretch. So they've got weapons all
• 17:38
  Speaker 6: around Joe Burrow and it didn't really show up much
• 17:41
  Speaker 6: in Week one, but I think it's bound to eventually.
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: Dan Let's touch on this defense and they blew it
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: out last year. They whacked everybody on the defensive side
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: on the staff pretty much. So where are they defensively?
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: What's the scheme feel like? When you have Hendrickson, you
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: have a chance in the pass rush game.
• 18:00
  Speaker 6: Certainly, he's awesome. Led the NFL in sacks last year
• 18:03
  Speaker 6: with seventeen and a half and had seventeen and a
• 18:05
  Speaker 6: half the year before as well, so he's been a
• 18:08
  Speaker 6: consistent force. He had a SAC in Week one against Cleveland.
• 18:11
  Speaker 6: They brought in Al Golden to be their defensive coordinator.
• 18:15
  Speaker 6: Al was the linebackers coach for the Bengals when they
• 18:17
  Speaker 6: went to the Super Bowl in twenty twenty one. He
• 18:20
  Speaker 6: left at the end of that year to become the
• 18:22
  Speaker 6: defensive coordinator Notre Dame, and over the past two years
• 18:25
  Speaker 6: Notre Dame probably had the best defensive team in the country.
• 18:29
  Speaker 6: He replaced a good defensive coordinator in lou Ana Arumo,
• 18:33
  Speaker 6: who did great stuff by and large in Cincinnati. But
• 18:35
  Speaker 6: the one thing I'll say about Lou and he said
• 18:38
  Speaker 6: this publicly, so it's really not a complaint on my part.
• 18:42
  Speaker 6: He just wasn't comfortable playing young guys. He didn't trust
• 18:47
  Speaker 6: young players. It took him a while to put the
• 18:49
  Speaker 6: young guys on the field. And if you look at
• 18:52
  Speaker 6: Cincinnati right now and the Bengals salary cap, Burrow's making
• 18:56
  Speaker 6: fifty five million, Chase is making more than forty million.
• 19:00
  Speaker 6: Higgins now is nearly twenty nine million. When you spend
• 19:03
  Speaker 6: that much on offense, just by definition, you're going to
• 19:06
  Speaker 6: have to be younger and cheaper on defense. So they
• 19:10
  Speaker 6: have gone to a defensive coordinator who has been playing
• 19:13
  Speaker 6: young guys in college obviously for the last three years,
• 19:16
  Speaker 6: and they think that that's a strength of al Bold
• 19:19
  Speaker 6: and developing young players. So they've invested a lot of
• 19:23
  Speaker 6: high draft picks on their defense since twenty twenty two.
• 19:26
  Speaker 6: I think it's ten picks in the first three rounds
• 19:29
  Speaker 6: since twenty twenty two have been on defense. It's time
• 19:32
  Speaker 6: to turn it over and let those young guys play
• 19:35
  Speaker 6: and see if they can develop into the next wave
• 19:38
  Speaker 6: of good Cincinnati defenders.
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: Dan big picture Cincinnati looking at the Bengals, obviously, you're
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: in the window when you have the quarterback and you're
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: paying that type of money on the offensive side to
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: the super Bowl windows still there? How long is it there?
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: Is it realistic this season that this Bengals team can
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: make a push in a real AFC.
• 20:01
  Speaker 6: It's absolutely realistic. And as for the Bengals window, I'll
• 20:04
  Speaker 6: just quote Joe Burrow. I believe it was the year
• 20:08
  Speaker 6: after they went to the Super Bowl and people realized
• 20:13
  Speaker 6: that the rookie contract was going to expire in the
• 20:15
  Speaker 6: next year or two. So somebody asked him about, you know,
• 20:18
  Speaker 6: what is your super Bowl window? And Joe's quote was,
• 20:21
  Speaker 6: the super Bowl window is my entire career, which shows
• 20:24
  Speaker 6: his confidence, and I agree with it. When you have
• 20:27
  Speaker 6: one of those guys, one of the truly elite, top
• 20:31
  Speaker 6: five quarterbacks in the NFL, they elevate everybody on the rosters.
• 20:36
  Speaker 6: So Patrick Mahomes went through this. The Chiefs basically successfully
• 20:41
  Speaker 6: have done what the Bengals are trying to do. Get
• 20:44
  Speaker 6: young and cheap on defense. Once your quarterback is making
• 20:47
  Speaker 6: the big bucks, and obviously the Chiefs keep going to
• 20:50
  Speaker 6: the super Bowl, so it can be done. I think
• 20:53
  Speaker 6: in Cincinnati it will happen. I'm pretty confident in thinking
• 20:57
  Speaker 6: that Joe Burrow will get back to a Super Bowl
• 21:00
  Speaker 6: point and hopefully win the next one. And it's not
• 21:03
  Speaker 6: out of the question this year. The defense doesn't have
• 21:06
  Speaker 6: to be elite, as I said earlier, middle of the
• 21:09
  Speaker 6: pack or better. Probably put Cincinnati in the mix to
• 21:13
  Speaker 6: represent the AFC in the Super Bowl.
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: The busiest man in show business, Dan Horde, voice of
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: the Cincinnati Bearcats and the Cincinnati Bengals, great to visit
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: and look forward to the game.
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: Appreciate it. JP.
• 21:24
  Speaker 6: No questions about the Bearcats versus Northwestern.
• 21:27
  Speaker 4: State this week.
• 21:28
  Speaker 6: Your audience isn't interested in that epic tilty.
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: You can find that on your own Google that one.
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: We'll talk to you soon.
• 21:34
  Speaker 6: Dan sounds good, Thanks for having me on.
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: And finally, Brian Sexton in the locker room this week
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: caught up with Jags safety Andrew Wingard, coming off a
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: strong performance a week ago and a challenging matchup this week.
• 21:46
  Speaker 7: It was good.
• 21:47
  Speaker 8: It was solid, especially like I didn't feel like we
• 21:50
  Speaker 8: even had for myself specifically, I got many tackle opportunities
• 21:54
  Speaker 8: in the preseason, and obviously tackling is one of the
• 21:56
  Speaker 8: big things early on in the season in the NFL,
• 21:59
  Speaker 8: but you know, rep it every day.
• 22:01
  Speaker 7: It's one of our fundamental things.
• 22:02
  Speaker 8: And you know when on the one tackle I missed,
• 22:06
  Speaker 8: it ended up being a one yard gain because we had.
• 22:09
  Speaker 7: Guys flying to the ball. So that's another aspect.
• 22:12
  Speaker 8: Pursuit always eliminates miss tackles, So that was one of
• 22:15
  Speaker 8: the biggest things that we were able to get them
• 22:17
  Speaker 8: on the ground even after we missed.
• 22:18
  Speaker 5: You know word I heard in the locker room a
• 22:20
  Speaker 5: lot last week was physical and not just in terms
• 22:22
  Speaker 5: of being effective tacklers. There was a level of physicality
• 22:25
  Speaker 5: to a guys when they got hit went backwards, including
• 22:28
  Speaker 5: that third down hit on the five yard line that
• 22:30
  Speaker 5: you had.
• 22:30
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 22:30
  Speaker 8: Absolutely, and that's again, that's what coach Liam preaches every day.
• 22:33
  Speaker 7: And it's it's just fun, Like the guys are just
• 22:36
  Speaker 7: fired up.
• 22:36
  Speaker 8: It's like so many things with this team are being
• 22:39
  Speaker 8: brought out intangibly just from really good football coaches, Like
• 22:44
  Speaker 8: things you wouldn't even put a price tag on maybe
• 22:46
  Speaker 8: a year or two ago, that are completely within our
• 22:48
  Speaker 8: control they're bringing out of us.
• 22:50
  Speaker 7: So that's definitely one of the huge things that credit
• 22:52
  Speaker 7: to them.
• 22:53
  Speaker 5: There's a posture to the secondary that I might not
• 22:56
  Speaker 5: have thought possible after the way last season went. It
• 22:59
  Speaker 5: turned really quickly.
• 23:00
  Speaker 4: Why.
• 23:01
  Speaker 8: I just think we're you know, in the putting the
• 23:04
  Speaker 8: right positions and we got a lot of grinders back there,
• 23:07
  Speaker 8: you know, like a like Eric Murray, Jordan Lewis, guys
• 23:10
  Speaker 8: who should be paid more than they're being paid, but
• 23:15
  Speaker 8: they're still they love the game and they bring guys
• 23:18
  Speaker 8: along with them and they're ballers. Like being out there
• 23:21
  Speaker 8: on the field looking across it at Eric and Jordan
• 23:24
  Speaker 8: and Tyson and all those guys. It's like you just
• 23:26
  Speaker 8: get fired up to play with guys like that because
• 23:28
  Speaker 8: you know you're not with any you know, big name,
• 23:32
  Speaker 8: no divas. You're with guys in the trenches that are
• 23:34
  Speaker 8: gonna the guy you want in the foxhole with you.
• 23:36
  Speaker 8: So I think that's been one of the biggest things
• 23:38
  Speaker 8: in our secondary. And then, like I said, just eyes
• 23:41
  Speaker 8: on the football. You saw that that play with Eric
• 23:44
  Speaker 8: is super cool because we rep that play like endlessly
• 23:47
  Speaker 8: in practice and then just boom, naturally it happens. Eyes
• 23:50
  Speaker 8: on the football. I'm overlapping on the backside, protecting the
• 23:53
  Speaker 8: deep ball. It's just a work of art.
• 23:55
  Speaker 5: Speak of work of art. To tell me about the interception,
• 23:57
  Speaker 5: give me a play by play. You're in the right
• 23:59
  Speaker 5: position and all the way through to what you thought
• 24:02
  Speaker 5: when you looked up and saw the flag.
• 24:03
  Speaker 8: No doubt, it was like it's fourth downs. He's throwing
• 24:08
  Speaker 8: the ball right to me. It's like, oh my god,
• 24:10
  Speaker 8: I'm gonna get on the board in week one. I'm
• 24:12
  Speaker 8: gonna have a seventy five yard pick six freebie, like
• 24:15
  Speaker 8: Praise Jesus. And then I'm turning around and usually you
• 24:18
  Speaker 8: can kind of feel it after a big play like that,
• 24:21
  Speaker 8: like you feel like three or four guys kind of
• 24:23
  Speaker 8: jumping on top of you. But I'm like, I only
• 24:25
  Speaker 8: see Trayvon, I see Travis, and then I just I
• 24:27
  Speaker 8: kind of get this loll there's like this loll and
• 24:29
  Speaker 8: I'm just like I knew instantly. I was like, oh man,
• 24:33
  Speaker 8: but then there it is right there, we above me,
• 24:35
  Speaker 8: So who cares?
• 24:36
  Speaker 7: You know, it's on film. Whatever.
• 24:38
  Speaker 8: It was honestly just fun to run down the sideline
• 24:41
  Speaker 8: score a touchdown. I haven't felt that since I was
• 24:43
  Speaker 8: in high school, So that was just super cool, and
• 24:45
  Speaker 8: then got myself a.
• 24:46
  Speaker 7: Playoff because I was absolutely gassed.
• 24:48
  Speaker 5: So tell me about the defense overall, just because last
• 24:52
  Speaker 5: year nothing seemed to go right first week out three takeaways,
• 24:55
  Speaker 5: the physical tackling we've talked about. It just has to
• 24:58
  Speaker 5: feel like a completely different unit, even though there's a
• 25:00
  Speaker 5: lot of guys who were here.
• 25:01
  Speaker 8: It absolutely does. And again it goes back to our
• 25:03
  Speaker 8: scheme and then the coaching. I believe they're just putting
• 25:06
  Speaker 8: us in the right spots and they're getting us into
• 25:08
  Speaker 8: really good coverages and schemes that guys have run before.
• 25:11
  Speaker 8: You know, Eric has run a lot of these coverages
• 25:13
  Speaker 8: in Houston. We actually ran a lot of these coverages
• 25:17
  Speaker 8: when we had Joe Collen back in twenty one, so
• 25:19
  Speaker 8: a lot of familiarity there. And then, like I said,
• 25:22
  Speaker 8: guys just absolutely flying around and it's just fun.
• 25:26
  Speaker 7: It's fun.
• 25:26
  Speaker 8: And then obviously week one is week one, it's behind us.
• 25:30
  Speaker 8: It means absolutely nothing. So we can't get to oh wow,
• 25:34
  Speaker 8: you know, I'm not going to say anything about the
• 25:36
  Speaker 8: opponent we just played. But so we got to be
• 25:39
  Speaker 8: on our p's and q's and you know, keep a
• 25:41
  Speaker 8: levelhead and not think we've we haven't earned anything.
• 25:44
  Speaker 5: And now about a thought on this week getting ready
• 25:46
  Speaker 5: for Jamar Jason T. Higgins as good a do what
• 25:49
  Speaker 5: as you find in the NFL? Is it steady same
• 25:51
  Speaker 5: week for you or is there a little extra somewhere
• 25:53
  Speaker 5: in there?
• 25:54
  Speaker 8: I mean, yeah, you try to keep it as you know,
• 25:55
  Speaker 8: even keel as possible. You don't want to get yourself
• 25:59
  Speaker 8: psyched out because you know, we've played I've played these
• 26:01
  Speaker 8: guys probably four times in my career.
• 26:03
  Speaker 7: So it's not you you know, you get into the NFL.
• 26:05
  Speaker 8: You can't idolight, you can't you know you're an NFL
• 26:08
  Speaker 8: player too, and that's what we're you know, we're preaching
• 26:10
  Speaker 8: to each other.
• 26:10
  Speaker 7: But I just think they're pedigree.
• 26:12
  Speaker 8: You know, been to a couple AFC Championships, a super Bowl,
• 26:16
  Speaker 8: so you know they know they're going.
• 26:17
  Speaker 7: To be on their p's and q's.
• 26:18
  Speaker 8: And I think, you know, week week two, Jaguars Bengals,
• 26:21
  Speaker 8: you know, could be a later on.
• 26:23
  Speaker 7: You know, you know, you never know. This is be
• 26:24
  Speaker 7: a great game.
• 26:25
  Speaker 8: So it's an awesome challenge and these are the ones
• 26:27
  Speaker 8: you just get really excited for.
• 26:28
  Speaker 5: So final thought, you've been here since nineteen, You've seen
• 26:31
  Speaker 5: a lot. You've seen ups and downs. You've seen good
• 26:33
  Speaker 5: and you've seen bad. This is different, isn't it.
• 26:36
  Speaker 7: It is.
• 26:37
  Speaker 8: It's a good start. And again I was saying this
• 26:40
  Speaker 8: in the spring and all the interviews. We got to
• 26:42
  Speaker 8: go do it and one game. It's not just it's
• 26:47
  Speaker 8: not done. We haven't won the Super Bowl yet, so
• 26:49
  Speaker 8: but it's different. It's different.
• 26:51
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• 26:54
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• 26:58
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• 27:02
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