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Jonathan Papelbon on Red Sox fallout w/Bregman, Pivot to Bo Bichette? · Foul Territory

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  Speaker 1: Jonathan Papplebon coming in from the top rope of perfect
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  Speaker 1: intro music for you to tell us what we need
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  Speaker 1: to know about Alex Bregman not returning to the Boston
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  Speaker 1: Red Sox pop set the scene.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I think you guys explained it pretty much. The
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  Speaker 2: no Trade claws to me was the final factor and
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  Speaker 2: decision maker in this.
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  Speaker 3: And you know, I don't know how y'all feel, but
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  Speaker 3: I feel like I did in college when I walked
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  Speaker 3: into a bar and there's this hot shit there and
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  Speaker 3: you waited to go up and talk to her, and
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  Speaker 3: then somebody else came in, swooped in and talked to her.
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  Speaker 2: Now she's gone, she left the bar with him. So
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  Speaker 2: that's how I feel right now. But it's you know,
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  Speaker 2: the Red Sox to me are a big market team
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  Speaker 2: in and out, and you you are not going to win,
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  Speaker 2: especially today with the New York Yankees and the Toronto
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  Speaker 2: Blue Jays in your division. First of all without being
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  Speaker 2: able or prepared to pay. I mean, the market speaks
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  Speaker 2: for itself nowadays. If you're not prepared to go one
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  Speaker 2: seventy to two fifty to three fifty, I don't care
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  Speaker 2: amount of years you got to be able to pay,
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  Speaker 2: and they're just not doing that right now. And now
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  Speaker 2: the latest thing I've heard is they're gonna get creative
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  Speaker 2: with the offseason. And I've heard this before. You know,
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  Speaker 2: let's get creative. Let's start signing more groundball guys. You're
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  Speaker 2: gonna platoon like eating and somebody else at second. Meer
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  Speaker 2: rookie who got hurt all last year's probably gonna look
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  Speaker 2: at playing third. And that doesn't cut it for me.
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  Speaker 1: Can we just clarify one thing with his analogy?
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  Speaker 4: Did you like it?
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  Speaker 1: I just felt like there was one slice missing from
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  Speaker 1: it for Paps. So it's like you went on an
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  Speaker 1: amazing date, right because you already have a relationship for
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  Speaker 1: him with this girl. Then you see her at the
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  Speaker 1: bar and you kind of like either ignore her or
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  Speaker 1: go up to her and say something weird or not inappropriate,
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  Speaker 1: but like you offer her like to I don't know,
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  Speaker 1: not hang out at the moment, like we'll hang out
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  Speaker 1: again another time.
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  Speaker 4: And then she first of all, and I also want
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  Speaker 4: to say this for Pap. He went to college in
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  Speaker 4: Mississippi State. I've been to Mississippi State. There aren't a
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  Speaker 4: lot of ton of girls there that Pap should be
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  Speaker 4: talking to anyways. Wow, So I'm just gonna throw that
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  Speaker 4: out there. Maybe he got lost and he ended up
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  Speaker 4: in a field with some other cows or some sheets
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  Speaker 4: or something that he got confused with. But let's just
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  Speaker 4: let's just throw that out there first. And by the way,
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  Speaker 4: you weren't old enough to drink when you're in college, pap.
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  Speaker 4: So that's also another thing that we're not going to
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  Speaker 4: talk about.
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  Speaker 2: That true story, a true story, you know. But here's
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  Speaker 2: the thing when it all boils down to it, you know,
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  Speaker 2: like this dude, right as soon as he came to
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  Speaker 2: the Red Sox and talk about Bregman, right as soon as.
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  Speaker 5: He came through, he was anointed as a captain, leader,
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  Speaker 5: another coach on the bench, all these things.
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  Speaker 2: I'm sitting here thinking, we're gonna wrap this up by Christmas,
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  Speaker 2: and this is gonna be a Christmas present for Red
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  Speaker 2: Sox Nation. Not only did they stumble their feet, the
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  Speaker 2: disappointment is now set in. And now what are you
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  Speaker 2: gonna do but to me? You know, I did forty
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  Speaker 2: five more than half of the away our home games
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  Speaker 2: with Nessen last year, and the asses were in the
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  Speaker 2: seats still, and you're gonna have to see, like, a,
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  Speaker 2: are are we gonna be prepared for the fans to
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  Speaker 2: revolt on us or not? Because I've heard a lot
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  Speaker 2: of bad things from the fans so far.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, but they didn't revolt when they weren't signing guys
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  Speaker 6: other years. And then they signed Bregman last year and
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  Speaker 6: the asses were in their seats, So that's to me,
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  Speaker 6: have they made that move to put the asses back
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  Speaker 6: in the seats, because really, this team flounder minus Garrett Crochet,
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  Speaker 6: this team floundered around five hundred. Is Roman Anthony gonna
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  Speaker 6: be the guy who's taking this team to the next level.
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  Speaker 6: Is Trevor Story gonna continue like he had to jump
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  Speaker 6: back up last year? Is your MVP candidate Sedan Rafaela
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  Speaker 6: gonna like carry this team because they've downgraded their offense
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  Speaker 6: right now without making this sign.
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  Speaker 2: There's no question about that craftz. But to me, it's it's,
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  Speaker 2: you know, the Red Sox in order to compete in
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  Speaker 2: this division now you know? And and and the last
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  Speaker 2: thing I heard was is the Phillies we're talking to Bischett.
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  Speaker 2: So I'm sitting here thinking, at least we're gonna go
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  Speaker 2: after Baschett, But that that doesn't look like it's gonna
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  Speaker 2: happen either. So you're relying on Sadan having an MVP
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  Speaker 2: type season, which I think he can have. You're relying
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  Speaker 2: on on role players a second, role players that third,
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  Speaker 2: and possibly you know, at first base if Cossa's does
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  Speaker 2: come back, I don't know, because Treres is probably gonna
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  Speaker 2: play ninety five percent of the time, but what are
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  Speaker 2: you gonna do with him as well? So there's so
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  Speaker 2: many question marks up in the air that some things
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  Speaker 2: have got to be figured out. And you know, to me,
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  Speaker 2: it's it's not looking good right now because they just
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  Speaker 2: crept into the playoffs last year with a wild card
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  Speaker 2: and ended up getting their butts beat by the New
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  Speaker 2: York Yankees. So I don't know how much longer you
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  Speaker 2: can accept that if I'm the Boston Red Sox front office.
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  Speaker 6: All Right, It's funny you said front office was the
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  Speaker 6: last thing you said, because you said, when they brought
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  Speaker 6: Bregman in, this is a dude. There was a coach
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  Speaker 6: on the field. Does this non signing? Yes, they offered
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  Speaker 6: them one hundred and sixty five million dollars. Yes, it's
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  Speaker 6: a lot of money, but they didn't get the job. Done.
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  Speaker 6: Does this non signing signify a more of a disconnect
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  Speaker 6: between the front office and the field than there was before?
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  Speaker 2: I think it, well crap, Yes, yes and no, I
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  Speaker 2: think it continues that there is a disconnect because the
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  Speaker 2: fans in the front office with the Boston Red Sox
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  Speaker 2: right now are so disconnected. I mean, you know my
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  Speaker 2: buddy that I do on destructive views with Carabas, he's
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  Speaker 2: about to commit suicide. But like the thing is though,
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  Speaker 2: is is there a disconnect between Ac Jason VerTech and
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  Speaker 2: some of these guys that are on staff with the
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  Speaker 2: front off. That's my big concern right now, like is
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  Speaker 2: there a disconnect there at all? Because to me, I'm
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  Speaker 2: coaching this team, I need these guys. I'm trying to
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  Speaker 2: stress how important a guy like Bregman is in my clubhouse.
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  Speaker 2: And the last thing I want to say.
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  Speaker 7: Too is is the Red Sox having this no tree
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  Speaker 7: claws we don't do that rule is a bunch of bs.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, that's all bs. First of all, they did it
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  Speaker 2: with Pedroia when I was there, and they did it
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  Speaker 2: with I think Chrissale and maybe one other guy, So
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  Speaker 2: that that's bs. You gotta throw that out the window
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  Speaker 2: and so to me, if that was the final straw,
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  Speaker 2: then they missed big, big, big big with Bregman.
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  Speaker 4: No, they didn't as big, But also why would bring
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  Speaker 4: them want to no trade? When they traded Mooki, they
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  Speaker 4: traded Sale, and they traded Devers in the last few years.
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  Speaker 4: So if I'm him and I'm going there, I want
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  Speaker 4: to know trade because they have a history of trading
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  Speaker 4: these guys later on. So that is a big deal
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  Speaker 4: to players, having that security and having that whole thing.
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  Speaker 4: So I agree with you, Pat, But what I want
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  Speaker 4: to know is where do they go next? Like you
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  Speaker 4: kind of hit on it, But do they do they
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  Speaker 4: go out and find somebody else? So they go after
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  Speaker 4: a Boba shit?
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  Speaker 6: Right?
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  Speaker 4: Are they comfortable with Meyer? And they comfortable with Christian?
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  Speaker 4: Kre got about Christian Campbell? Don't even talk about him.
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  Speaker 4: They signed him to like a sixty million dollars deal
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  Speaker 4: last year and he was at triple A most of
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  Speaker 4: the year, So what do they do with him? Right?
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  Speaker 4: So they have options, but are they good enough to
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  Speaker 4: help them with what Alex pregman up brought not only
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  Speaker 4: on the field, but from what everyone says he brought
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  Speaker 4: off the field. When you add Wilson Katrous, you had
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  Speaker 4: Sonny Gray. You add some other guys here and there,
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  Speaker 4: but they haven't really improved the infield. And if their
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  Speaker 4: run prevention run prevention, Alex Pregmant is great at run
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  Speaker 4: prevention at third base.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, you nailed it. So for my for
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  Speaker 2: me being a picture AJ and I'm a big believer
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  Speaker 2: in run prevention obviously, But to me is who are
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  Speaker 2: those guys gonna be? I mean, Meyer is unproven in
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  Speaker 2: the infield, and your right now got him probably slided
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  Speaker 2: in at third base. Then you got Eton and Campbell,
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  Speaker 2: who both are completely unproven at second base and at shortstop.
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  Speaker 2: This Trevor story at him age come back and still
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  Speaker 2: be capable of having an MVP type season and carrying
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  Speaker 2: a team you bring in Contreras. Now, Contreras to me,
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  Speaker 2: is gonna have to go out if they don't do
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  Speaker 2: anything else, is gonna have to go out and have
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  Speaker 2: a big poppy forty and forty five and hit three twenty.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, and that's not gonna happen. So to me,
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  Speaker 2: the moves have got to be made. But like I
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  Speaker 2: said earlier, y'all, the front office has got to be
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  Speaker 2: prepared to spend I don't understand their motives behind not
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  Speaker 2: wanting to spend money right now, because everyone else, especially
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  Speaker 2: Toronto and New York, who are in your division or
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  Speaker 2: spending money.
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  Speaker 6: Where are they at? Where are they at in the
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  Speaker 6: division right now? You've just said Toronto and New York. Well,
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  Speaker 6: New York hasn't spent money yet, but you assume they will.
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  Speaker 6: But yeah, where do you have the Red Sox are
• 10:54
  Speaker 6: they Are they a third place team right now? Or
• 10:57
  Speaker 6: do you like the Oriols enough to make the Red
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  Speaker 6: Sox a fourth place team?
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  Speaker 2: I think the Orioles are gonna bounce back, So to me,
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  Speaker 2: it's gonna be between fighting between Tampa Bay in the
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  Speaker 2: Red Sox for the last place in the division. That's
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  Speaker 2: what I where I see him right now. But you know,
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  Speaker 2: the thing that the whole thing of this is that
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  Speaker 2: when you when you're a front office right and I'm
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  Speaker 2: not in the front office, but you've got just like
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  Speaker 2: the players are, seeing what's happening with other players. Aj
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  Speaker 2: you said this earlier, you think that the Bregnant deal
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  Speaker 2: is gonna affect the Bellinger deal and so on and
• 11:35
  Speaker 2: so on, but that there's no difference in the front
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  Speaker 2: office right these deals affect. How now, who are you
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  Speaker 2: gonna go after? What are you gonna do next? Uh?
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  Speaker 2: And to me, they've got to get in on the
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  Speaker 2: Bobashett deal. I don't know if y'all know this, but
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  Speaker 2: here's a little funk fact from Bobashett. His dad played there, right,
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  Speaker 2: His dad met his mom in Boston, he was born
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  Speaker 2: in Boston and all that mess. So every time he
• 11:59
  Speaker 2: goes to Well Austin, somehow he just rakes. Check out
• 12:02
  Speaker 2: his numbers. I checked him out like two weeks ago,
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  Speaker 2: but they're off the charts. And so to me, if
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  Speaker 2: you got a player you know that could play in
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  Speaker 2: Fienway Park, he's one of them.
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  Speaker 4: True? What about a what about a trade for Ronado?
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  Speaker 4: Like what about Nolan Arnado? Or what about Gino Suarez
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  Speaker 4: on a short term one year with an opt out
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  Speaker 4: kind of thing? Same thing they tried with Bregman, Right,
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  Speaker 4: what about those are some bigger named third basemen. Arnado's defensive, yes,
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  Speaker 4: to slipped, his offensive slipped a little bit, but he's
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  Speaker 4: still a decent player. Suarez is he'll hit you some homers.
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  Speaker 4: He'll strike out of Temby. He's gonna hit you homers.
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  Speaker 4: He's a good vibes guy. So what about one of
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  Speaker 4: those two possibly coming in and taking over there?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I tell you what, AJ, out of all those people,
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  Speaker 2: I do like those moves. You gotta start getting creative
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  Speaker 2: and thinking, okay, can we slip in some one two
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  Speaker 2: year deals with this guy or that guy? But to me,
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  Speaker 2: that guy would have to be Nolan Arnado, like he's
• 13:00
  Speaker 2: got to be on the radar. If he's not, they're
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  Speaker 2: mistaken again. And the reason why I say that is
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  Speaker 2: because this clubhouse, and I've been around these guys a lot.
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  Speaker 2: They need leadership man, and no one is one of
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  Speaker 2: those guys who will step right in just like a
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  Speaker 2: Bregman and lead a team. He's gonna be the same
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  Speaker 2: guy day in and day out, and he's gonna be
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  Speaker 2: someone that threw out the course of this season. They
• 13:28
  Speaker 2: can lean on if he stays healthy. And that's everybody.
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  Speaker 2: But yeah, they're gonna have to get creative in some ways.
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  Speaker 2: They're another a J.
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  Speaker 4: Who's the star?
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  Speaker 2: Now?
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  Speaker 6: So who steps up and is the star? Because that's
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  Speaker 6: where the maturation of Marcella Meyer, the maturation of Roman Anthony,
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  Speaker 6: the fact that you were hoping Tristan Cossas would take
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  Speaker 6: the next steps. Watching Bregman. Who's the star for them
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  Speaker 6: to watch? Is story that guy?
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  Speaker 4: Story?
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  Speaker 2: Not that guy. I'm sorry, it's it's not story to me.
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  Speaker 2: And the pitching side of it is obviously Garrett Crochet.
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  Speaker 2: He's the guy that everybody's gonna show up to and watch.
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  Speaker 2: But on the other side, the position side of the field,
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  Speaker 2: to me, they've already anointed him as the star and
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  Speaker 2: he's gonna have to continue to fill big, huge shoes
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  Speaker 2: of being the star. And that's Roman Anthony, right. So
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  Speaker 2: this kid is that You're You're.
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  Speaker 8: Relying on a twenty two year old kid to go
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  Speaker 8: out infan Way Park night in and night out and
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  Speaker 8: be the next David Ortiz or the next you know,
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  Speaker 8: star amongst stars, and they've already anointed him as that.
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  Speaker 8: So if he fails right out the gate, it's gonna be,
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  Speaker 8: oh crap.
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  Speaker 2: What do we do now? So there's a lot of
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  Speaker 2: pressure on that kid to be a star. And do
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  Speaker 2: I think he can do it? Yes, I think he's
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  Speaker 2: got a good head on his shoulders and he can
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  Speaker 2: be a star for the Red Sox and you know,
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  Speaker 2: be that guy or that dude. But it's only time will.
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  Speaker 4: Tell all right, pap, let's move on. Do they have
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  Speaker 4: enough pitching right now? I know you said they're gonna
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  Speaker 4: be battling with the Rays. Crochet had an unbelievable year.
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  Speaker 4: They went out and get Sunny Gray. They're relying on
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  Speaker 4: some of their younger guys, Bao and some of these
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  Speaker 4: guys to to kind of take that next step and
• 15:20
  Speaker 4: become what they need. They brought back Chapman in the
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  Speaker 4: back end of the bullpen, but they're counting on guys
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  Speaker 4: again to have great years that a lot of people
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  Speaker 4: outside of Fenway have never heard of. Do they have
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  Speaker 4: enough pitching or do they need to go out and
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  Speaker 4: still get another pitcher because they did lose gi Alito.
• 15:33
  Speaker 4: He's a free agent. So do they have enough pitching
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  Speaker 4: right now? Forget the offensive side of it. Do they
• 15:38
  Speaker 4: have enough pitching? Because everyone says pitching wins championships, And
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  Speaker 4: when the Red Sox were winning, they had Pedro and
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  Speaker 4: they had Wake and they had you in the back
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  Speaker 4: end and Keith Folk and all these guys in the
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  Speaker 4: back end that were really good. So do they have
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  Speaker 4: enough pitching right now to compete in this division? Forget
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  Speaker 4: the offense?
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  Speaker 2: Well, A j I don't think they do. You know,
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  Speaker 2: I don't think you can have really have enough pitching,
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  Speaker 2: especially in Fenway Park. But you know, here here's some
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  Speaker 2: keys to the situation with the pullpen. Though. You got
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  Speaker 2: Chapman coming back, who is defines life is and I've
• 16:15
  Speaker 2: watched his off season workout videos again this offseason just
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  Speaker 2: because I'm so intrigued by this man. But he's gonna
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  Speaker 2: be back doing the same things in my opinion, And
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  Speaker 2: you got his setup man in Whitlock established already, who
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  Speaker 2: both had phenomenal seasons last year, both All Star type seasons.
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  Speaker 2: Now you're gonna need some guys to step up again.
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  Speaker 2: You know, you's good. There's probably not gonna be at
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  Speaker 2: Bernardino again, and you know he was really good for him.
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  Speaker 2: But the starting pitching to me, all relies on one guy,
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  Speaker 2: and that's Brian BeO, not Garrett Crochet. Okay, Brian Beyo
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  Speaker 2: has got to come and start pitching like a number
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  Speaker 2: one or two, not a three or four, and start
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  Speaker 2: being able to not only pitch that way, but AJ
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  Speaker 2: and Krats be able to beat other teams number ones
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  Speaker 2: in twos. When you have that guy, that's your second
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  Speaker 2: and third starting staff rotator and going out and winning
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  Speaker 2: games against other guys ones and twos. That's when you
• 17:20
  Speaker 2: can creep up into standings. So he if he can
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  Speaker 2: do that, then they'll be all right. But still that
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  Speaker 2: we have not We have yet to see Brian Beyo
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  Speaker 2: do that, so that's that's unproven.
• 17:31
  Speaker 6: Talking about pitching, are you okay with the moves and
• 17:34
  Speaker 6: not getting pregnant? If they trade for a Freddie Peralta
• 17:37
  Speaker 6: and you you can launch this team back into the
• 17:41
  Speaker 6: first or second in the division or at least a
• 17:43
  Speaker 6: playoff team. If they would get a Freddie p, a
• 17:47
  Speaker 6: true number one to go behind your Ace and Crochet.
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: Yes, I would kratz yes, because now you have the
• 17:56
  Speaker 2: pitching staff to take up for the lack of what
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: your lineup is doing right now in all three phase
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: of the game, hitting, pitching, the defense. When all those
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: line up, yeah, you go on ten twelve run streaks
• 18:12
  Speaker 2: of winning. But you know when when you have a
• 18:16
  Speaker 2: guy like Freddie p going and a Garrett Crochet going
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: and you can somehow some way get into the playoffs,
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: then boom, you're set right. You got that one two punch,
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: especially when it's you know, uh, four game, five game, series,
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: and it's not a seven game series. You know, you
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: can beat them in three or four games, so that
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: would be huge in my opinion.
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: I just want to circle back to the top of
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: why we're all chatting right now. So the Red Sox
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: badly wanted someone they already had a taste.
• 18:54
  Speaker 4: I told you they came up short like this, but
• 18:57
  Speaker 4: they didn't. They wouldn't budge because the Red maybe PAP
• 19:00
  Speaker 4: or the Red Sox front office in ownership John Henry,
• 19:03
  Speaker 4: overconfident in what they do and what they offered. Because
• 19:07
  Speaker 4: from what I was told, they made an early offer
• 19:09
  Speaker 4: to Bregman didn't budge. They went back and said, look,
• 19:12
  Speaker 4: we have a higher offer than what you're offering us.
• 19:15
  Speaker 4: Alex kind of wants to come back. Then the no
• 19:17
  Speaker 4: trade all that stuff happened, and then the Red Sox
• 19:19
  Speaker 4: were like, we don't believe you. And then Bregman was like, hey,
• 19:22
  Speaker 4: I'm gonna go with another team. And then all of
• 19:24
  Speaker 4: a sudden they're like, oh, here's our best, real best
• 19:26
  Speaker 4: offer five one sixty five with a ton of deferrals
• 19:29
  Speaker 4: out you know, twenty thirty years. Do we think maybe
• 19:32
  Speaker 4: the Red Sox were just too overconfident that Alex Bregman's
• 19:35
  Speaker 4: market wasn't gonna get there, and they were just gonna
• 19:37
  Speaker 4: get him back.
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: I think he nailed it on the head. AJ. But
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: let me tell you something. I don't know if y'all
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: had Scott Boris as an agent or not. But when
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: Scott Boris comes back and he tells you I got
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: five for one seventy five, or I got seven for
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: two fifty or I got nine for three point fifty,
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: you believe him. Okay, you believe him, and then you
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: go about your business accordingly to what he says. So
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: you know them saying, oh, come on, man, that's child's
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: play to me. And secondly, when you realize that, okay,
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: this no trade clause is that important to him, then
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: you come up off of that too, like there's no
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: questions ask And I don't know about y'all, but Bragnance
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: to the point of his life where he wants stability,
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: and there's no question about it, like he wants He's
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: got his wife, kids, and you know, he's at that
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: point where he wants to be settled. And I think
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: that played a huge factor in this whole situation.
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: Incredible, truly incredible. Well, Pap thank you for joining us
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: therapy session or whatever it is. Actually, I would say
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: most importantly, your boy and our friend, Jared Crabs does
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: need a hug right now. He's kidding, He's okay, he's
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: going to be fine. We're we're not making light of,
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: you know, the situation that Pat mentioned earlier, but he definitely.
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: Is that that they did this after the whole winter
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: Fest deal. I don't know if y'all know about that.
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: Ben way Fest ended, and then how long after that
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: did this happened? Hours hours later? It happened if you
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: really want to you.
• 21:30
  Speaker 4: Know what I think this weekend is Cububs nailed it.
• 21:37
  Speaker 4: I'll be trade for Edward Cabrera. They get Alex pregnant.
• 21:40
  Speaker 4: Get how many more tickets they sold a Cubs convention?
• 21:42
  Speaker 4: Probably a lot.
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: Enough to make.
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: Uh yeah, Cubs Convention is Friday through Sunday. This weekend.
• 21:50
  Speaker 4: Nailed it? Yeah, Wow, pap incredible.
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: Hey, Red Sox organization should consider themselves lucky if that
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: happened twenty four hours earlier.
• 22:01
  Speaker 4: Oh man, could you imagine what more?
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: All the story more, all the story boys from that
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: hot Chicks in the bar?
• 22:09
  Speaker 4: You go get her, man, Yep, don't wait or they're
• 22:14
  Speaker 4: in the field path for you. They're in the field.
• 22:16
  Speaker 4: You see that one. You gotta go get him. Yeah, love,
• 22:20
  Speaker 4: be pat. We'll talk to you soon. Dude.
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: Thanks for swinging by.
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: I gotta see you.
• 22:25
  Speaker 4: Appreciate you. Hey.
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: Monster Territory does more therapy session action with Robbie Hyde,
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: part of the FT Network. Robbie was at Fenway Fest
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: before the volcano erupted, so more from him. I'm sure
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: he'll be very active this week. And of course we
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: have Northside Territory too. If you want to hear them all,
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: bask in the glory of signing Alex pregnant. The futures
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: bet we're looking at is regular season home run lead
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: Iron Judge is the leader at the pack at plus
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: three fifty. Show Hey o Tani plus four hundred and
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: if you believe in Kyle Schwarber winning this race, throw
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: down one hundred to win eight hundred Judge.
• 23:18
  Speaker 4: Three until Judge purves me wrong.
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: I'm going with Judge, okay.
• 23:21
  Speaker 4: I mean Schwarber had a unbelievable year and didn't even
• 23:22
  Speaker 4: get it done.
• 23:24
  Speaker 6: True Kratz plus and it's plus three fifty.
• 23:30
  Speaker 4: I mean to me, if it's not.
• 23:34
  Speaker 6: If it's not Judge at plus three fifty, like you
• 23:37
  Speaker 6: have to look at like I love I love Nick
• 23:39
  Speaker 6: Kurtz at one thousand plus one thousand, ten to one,
• 23:43
  Speaker 6: but I just don't think Shoe Hay's gonna be there.
• 23:47
  Speaker 6: Pete Alonzo at plus twelve hundred. I really like that,
• 23:51
  Speaker 6: maybe even more than I like the Nick Kurtz. But
• 23:55
  Speaker 6: I just think I think Judge is plus three fifty.
• 23:58
  Speaker 6: I like that number. I dump, where's dumper?
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: Dumper?
• 24:05
  Speaker 6: Yeah, he's a plus nine hundred.
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: Okay, Judge tough to lead the league.
• 24:11
  Speaker 6: He showed that last year. Tough to lead the league.
• 24:13
  Speaker 6: It took everything falling right for him to lead the league.
• 24:18
  Speaker 6: K Kirts is a good pick, though.
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: Yep.
• 24:21
  Speaker 4: Full season in that ball and he's kind of in
• 24:23
  Speaker 4: the weeds and in Sacramento by a ballpark. Nobody really
• 24:26
  Speaker 4: talks about him. Ball flies, ball flies there for Judge.
• 24:31
  Speaker 4: If he doesn't get hurt, I'll still take Judge same.
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: That's the to me. It's almost like the only thing
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: that can hold him back, right, is he going to
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: miss any time? If he's not, he's probably going to
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: take the home run title.
• 24:42
  Speaker 6: All right.
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