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3/2/26: Americans Reject Iran War, Jeff Sachs Unloads On Netanyahu, Professor Jiang Says US Will Lose · Breaking Points with Krystal and Saagar

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  Speaker 2: It doesn't help in terms of public perception when immediately
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  Speaker 2: after announcing in a pre edited statement where you're wearing
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  Speaker 2: a baseball cap and you know, something Saga would be
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  Speaker 2: concerned about and me two at this point, no tie,
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  Speaker 2: just you know, at your golf club, just casually announcing
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  Speaker 2: that you're dragging us into another Middle Eastern war with
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  Speaker 2: no particular endgame, and you know no end inside Nordy
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  Speaker 2: Americans dying in this war. Immediately afterwards, what do you
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  Speaker 2: do if you're president of the United says, let's put
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  Speaker 2: this up on screen now you put the tie on. Actually,
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  Speaker 2: then after announcing the war, and you go to your
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  Speaker 2: club with all of your multimillionaire and billionaire buddies to
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  Speaker 2: hang out and party and celebrate sending America's sons and
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  Speaker 2: daughters off to fight and die in an illegal, horrible, deadly, chaotic,
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  Speaker 2: disastrous war. So this was a million dollar plate fundraiser
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  Speaker 2: he was hosting there at mar A Lago in the
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  Speaker 2: hours after announcing this war. And so you can imagine
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  Speaker 2: that being one example of why perhaps Americans are not
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  Speaker 2: feeling so excited about this administration at this point, let
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  Speaker 2: alone this war that we've been dragged into. Put we've
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  Speaker 2: got some pulling here now, early indications of.
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  Speaker 4: Support for this. Let's put D two up on the screen.
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  Speaker 2: This is from Reuters where their headline was just one
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  Speaker 2: in four Americans twenty five percent supports US strikes on run.
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  Speaker 2: So you can see the numbers there, and of all adults,
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  Speaker 2: you've got about twenty seven percent in support. You've got
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  Speaker 2: forty three percent opposed. I want you guys to understand
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  Speaker 2: how crazy and keep these numbers up on the screen,
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  Speaker 2: how crazy this is. I don't know if y'all have
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  Speaker 2: been watching cable news, but CNN and Fox in particular,
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  Speaker 2: Oh my god, the pro war propaganda is through the roof.
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  Speaker 2: Many have been saying it would be hard to see
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  Speaker 2: how CNN can get even worse under the Ellisons. But
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  Speaker 2: I'm sure they'll figure out how to manage that. Barry
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  Speaker 2: will rise to the occasion to make it even worse.
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  Speaker 2: But it is so bad, and in spite of that
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  Speaker 2: overwhelming war propaganda, you still have only twenty seven adults
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  Speaker 2: who are like yes to this.
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  Speaker 1: Even in the.
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  Speaker 2: Republican Party, a majority support of fifty five percent, only
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  Speaker 2: thirteen percent outright opposed. You've got a big swat. There're
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  Speaker 2: thirty two percent that are like not sure. Democrats only
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  Speaker 2: seven percent support. I mean, I think they're all elected
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  Speaker 2: here in DC. Apparently all seven percent of those Democrats
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  Speaker 2: that support this. And then with the Independence you've got
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  Speaker 2: nineteen percent support. Let's put the next one up on
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  Speaker 2: the screen to see another poll.
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  Speaker 1: Here you go.
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  Speaker 4: This is from the AP. Twenty one percent only.
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  Speaker 2: Support it in this particular poll, and a near majority
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  Speaker 2: forty nine percent oppose. Thirty percent say that they are
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  Speaker 2: not sure. Let's compare this. Let's put D four up
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  Speaker 2: on the screen show. We compare this to support for
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  Speaker 2: previous wars, which also ended disastrously. By the way, the
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  Speaker 2: Afghanistan War, there was overwhelming support because you know, the thought, okay,
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  Speaker 2: there was an actual connection between Afghanistan and nine to
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  Speaker 2: eleven Bin Laden was genuinely hiding out there, and so
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  Speaker 2: even Democrats ninety percent were in support of, Okay, let's
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  Speaker 2: go into Afghanistan. And even that, we see the way
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  Speaker 2: that twenty years later it was a total catastrophe and
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  Speaker 2: just ended with the Taliban back in power. The Iraq War,
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  Speaker 2: you can see overall, even though there was some descent,
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  Speaker 2: I was part of it, there was some descent, but
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  Speaker 2: still overwhelming support. Seventy two percent supported military action in Iraq.
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  Speaker 2: Think about that, and now here we are today for
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  Speaker 2: a Ran thirty four percent, thirty four percent supporting military
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  Speaker 2: action against Iran.
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  Speaker 4: And that is that.
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  Speaker 2: Is likely to be effectively at the peak because already
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  Speaker 2: things are going sideways, and I want people to take note,
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  Speaker 2: and we're going to do some of that. We're going
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  Speaker 2: to cover some of this tomorrow of especially the you know,
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  Speaker 2: a bunch of the Republicans are basically going to go
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  Speaker 2: along with whatever Charn you'll have very You'll have some
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  Speaker 2: notable and very courageous dissenters, Thomas Massey, maybe Ran Paul,
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  Speaker 2: maybe a couple others.
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  Speaker 1: Okay.
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  Speaker 2: On the Democratic side, you have a divide. You have
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  Speaker 2: some people who are quite clear no war with Iran,
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  Speaker 2: and then you have the bullshit process group that are like, Wow,
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  Speaker 2: he didn't brief us and he didn't make his case.
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  Speaker 2: Then he needs to make his case the American people.
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  Speaker 2: I want you all to remember who those people are.
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  Speaker 2: Take note of where everyone is right now, because I
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  Speaker 2: believe a year from now, even I don't even think
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  Speaker 2: it's going to take that long with the rocket took
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  Speaker 2: years with this, it is going to be very quick.
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  Speaker 2: There will come a time when basically everyone opposes this
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  Speaker 2: action and seize the folly and the disaster that it
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  Speaker 2: ultimately is.
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  Speaker 4: And I want you to look and.
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  Speaker 2: To remember who said what right now at the time
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  Speaker 2: when it shouldn't even be that.
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  Speaker 4: Difficult because the public opposes it.
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  Speaker 2: But there's a lot of money on the other side
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  Speaker 2: of the equation, pressuring people, APAC being one of them,
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  Speaker 2: pressuring people, pressuring elective members of Congress to support this insanity.
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  Speaker 2: Pay attention to who they are, Do not let them
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  Speaker 2: off the hook. Do not fail to remind them that
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  Speaker 2: they were on board with this utter catastrophic disaster.
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  Speaker 3: Which is exactly why a war Powers resolution is so important.
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  Speaker 1: You need to get on the record.
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  Speaker 3: I want it now, I want it yesterday actually, because
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  Speaker 3: now they're going to try and mealy mouth their.
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  Speaker 1: Way out of this, and we need this for everybody.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, one of the only good things about this
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  Speaker 3: is that many of the people have been exposed as
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  Speaker 3: complete frauds. Tomorrow will have a whole list of all
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  Speaker 3: the people who said that they were against this, ran
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  Speaker 3: on it literally and are now saying opposite things out
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  Speaker 3: of the sides of their mouth. You know why that's important,
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  Speaker 3: Getting people on the record and then reminding people in
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  Speaker 3: the future like we did to Hillary back in two
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  Speaker 3: thousand and eight. That is what saves you, because look, ultimately,
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  Speaker 3: we can only judge based on past behavior for what
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  Speaker 3: your decision is going to be. And yeah, as you said,
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  Speaker 3: it's not even that courageous to speak out right now.
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  Speaker 1: It's just apparently, like so outside the realm.
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  Speaker 3: Of possibility for anybody on mainstream media to even.
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  Speaker 4: Think about to the's what to do?
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  Speaker 1: It is so shocking.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, the mainstream media and all these people, you know,
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  Speaker 3: CNN would always try to reach out to me to
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  Speaker 3: talk about Epstein or whatever when Israel or Iran, and
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  Speaker 3: they know, you know, oh nothing, you know, there's no
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  Speaker 3: there's no incoming text messages asking me to appear on
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  Speaker 3: their network.
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  Speaker 1: Interesting, isn't it? Or even the Epstein thing.
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  Speaker 3: I'd be like, sure, but I'm going to talk about Israel,
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  Speaker 3: and then of course, you know, everything would just go
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  Speaker 3: away in terms of their request.
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  Speaker 1: That's that's kind of how Les right now.
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  Speaker 3: And I do think it's important to think about the
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  Speaker 3: lack of manufactured even consent for this war.
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  Speaker 1: Put D three up here on the screen. This is
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  Speaker 1: from the New York Times.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, only twenty one percent of Americans support the
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  Speaker 3: United States initiating an attack on Iran.
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  Speaker 1: Only twenty one percent.
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  Speaker 3: And you know you talked there about history, and this
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  Speaker 3: is where I never thought I would say this, But
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  Speaker 3: you got to give it to Bush. He went the
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  Speaker 3: Coalition of the Willing, even though it was fake, the
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  Speaker 3: Coalition of the Willing. Every member of Congress was forced
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  Speaker 3: to vote on the question. We had months of Fox News.
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  Speaker 3: You don't want the smoking gun to be a mushroom cloud.
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  Speaker 3: You had Judy Miller and yellow Cake and the famous
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  Speaker 3: vial that was held up by Colin Powell. The surrent
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  Speaker 3: security accounts vast majority of Americans supported it.
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  Speaker 1: Everyone pretends they weren't for it.
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  Speaker 3: They were everyone ever comes to even I think back,
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  Speaker 3: Vietnam massively popular all the way up.
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  Speaker 1: Until you had people who a lot of people were
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  Speaker 1: being killed.
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  Speaker 3: And by the way, even when I mean I'm talking
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  Speaker 3: about hundreds of Americans were nying, like in the span
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  Speaker 3: of a month, even then, a lot of the people
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  Speaker 3: still bought into the propaganda. Yeah, and we're like, oh,
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  Speaker 3: we need you know, peace with honor and all this
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  Speaker 3: other stuff.
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  Speaker 1: This they didn't even try.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, even Maduro, it was like fifty to fifty
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  Speaker 3: people mostly moved on. They're like, look, as long as
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  Speaker 3: there's no Americans getting killed whatever, I don't particularly care.
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  Speaker 3: There's no chaos. Can't say that about this. There's chaos everywhere.
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  Speaker 3: And you know, part of the problem was they moved
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  Speaker 3: into this. They I think, to the extent that people
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  Speaker 3: paid attention it was all news junkies. The vast, vast,
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  Speaker 3: vast majority of people had no idea.
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  Speaker 1: This was happening.
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  Speaker 3: They don't follow carrier strike group movements and statements from
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  Speaker 3: the Pentagon and Barackravid reporting. They just woke up on
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  Speaker 3: was a Saturday morning and they're like, oh my god.
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  Speaker 3: They're like, I can't believe this is even happening. And
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  Speaker 3: then they probably turned on their TV. There's no president
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  Speaker 3: to speak to them. We have a pre recorded Brandon
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  Speaker 3: style message. And then whenever they're worried, let's say you're
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  Speaker 3: a military family, I know some and you see that's
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  Speaker 3: the way it is. Do you remember we shredded by it.
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  Speaker 3: Remember his press conference after those thirteen Americans were killed
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  Speaker 3: at Abby Gate.
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  Speaker 1: I mean we shredded him here.
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  Speaker 3: Remember when he got quiet and he was dementia ridden
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  Speaker 3: and leaning like this on the podium trying to trying
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  Speaker 3: to analogize the death of his son from cancer to
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  Speaker 3: somebody getting blown up by ISIS in Afghanistan. This is
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  Speaker 3: up there with Oh, that's the way it is. That's
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  Speaker 3: the way that we talk about dead American servicemen.
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  Speaker 1: This is a nightmare.
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  Speaker 4: And in parents that was to get out of a war.
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  Speaker 2: This is getting us into a war and so casual
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  Speaker 2: and I you know, I feel like a broken record.
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  Speaker 2: I keep tying it back to the Epstein files. But
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  Speaker 2: you see, you see in the Epstein files. You see
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  Speaker 2: the way that they look at other humans. They don't
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  Speaker 2: see they don't see you or your kids as human
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  Speaker 2: in the same full way that they see themselves and
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  Speaker 2: their class allies and their fellow you know, Epstein class
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  Speaker 2: allies as full human beings, and that's why they're able
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  Speaker 2: to so casually send people in to fight and die
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  Speaker 2: in these wars. And you know, I mean the backdrop
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  Speaker 2: here is you've got people who can't afford homes, who
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  Speaker 2: are you know, prices are still way too high. You've
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  Speaker 2: got you know, a full court press to develop AI
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  Speaker 2: that is going to eliminate many white collar jobs. That
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  Speaker 2: the promise or the threat is eliminate all white collar jobs.
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  Speaker 2: That's the backdrop. Healthcare premiums. They didn't you know, they
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  Speaker 2: couldn't extend the ACA healthcare subsidies, let alone God forbid
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  Speaker 2: actually like come up with a good healthcare plan so
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  Speaker 2: that people had universal health care like every other developed
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  Speaker 2: country in the world. So you've got premiums skyrocketing, and
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  Speaker 2: you're supposed to deal with a new regime of austerity.
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  Speaker 2: But is there any I mean, is there any contemplation
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  Speaker 2: here if you heard anyone say like, oh, how much
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  Speaker 2: is this going to cost? Like that's that was a
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  Speaker 2: lot of money that just got shot out of the
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  Speaker 2: sky and I watched, you know, fall into the ground
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  Speaker 2: and crash and burn. How much do these carrier striker
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  Speaker 2: what does that deployment cost these you know, these new
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  Speaker 2: service members who are being brought in Like what, No,
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  Speaker 2: because austerity is fakey. That's that's what you really should
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  Speaker 2: get for that. There's no austerity when it comes to
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  Speaker 2: you know, when it comes to an empire, when it
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  Speaker 2: comes to waging these wars. And you can go look
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  Speaker 2: at the stock market today and you can see many
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  Speaker 2: stocks are falling, but you know what's doing really well,
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  Speaker 2: Oh the military industrial complex, the Delton defense stocks.
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  Speaker 4: They're they're cooking.
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  Speaker 2: And again you can see in the Emstein files is
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  Speaker 2: the way that Epstein would talk to you know, would
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  Speaker 2: talk today hud barag would talk to other people say, oh,
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  Speaker 2: this chaos, this war, this is great for us, This
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  Speaker 2: is great for us. We're going to profit off of this.
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  Speaker 2: We're gonna make lots of money. We're going to have
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  Speaker 2: more power. We're gonna be able to situate ourselves even better,
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  Speaker 2: We're going to be able to entrench ourselves even more
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  Speaker 2: in the affairs of the entire world. And so that's
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  Speaker 2: the way they that's the way they look at this.
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  Speaker 2: So when you see this and you you look at
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  Speaker 2: the polls, you're like, okay, like twenty percent of the
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  Speaker 2: American public supports this, and you're dragging.
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  Speaker 4: Us into this.
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  Speaker 2: It's it is laying bare the fact that they do
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  Speaker 2: not believe, like, they don't believe in democracy, and they're
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  Speaker 2: exposing in the fact that they don't think we live
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  Speaker 2: in a democracy. They don't think that people get to
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  Speaker 2: have a say, they don't think that our opinions should
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  Speaker 2: matter at all, and they think that they have degraded
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  Speaker 2: our system enough so that they don't matter at all.
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  Speaker 4: That's what this tells you. That's what this action really
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  Speaker 4: tells you.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: I think though, that they also see us as cattle,
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  Speaker 3: because they will just move on and look, they're not
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  Speaker 3: wrong to a certain extent. Most a lot of the
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  Speaker 3: people who do for them are cattle. I lived in
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  Speaker 3: George W. Bush Country in Iraq. It was seven and
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  Speaker 3: you still had dead enders who were like I support
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  Speaker 3: the president on the Iraq like, don't underestimate the capacity
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  Speaker 3: for stupidity and for cultish behavior in a significant part
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  Speaker 3: of the country. And that is honestly, that's maybe one
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  Speaker 3: of the things that worries me the most on this.
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  Speaker 3: Maybe some people are awake on the question. I definitely
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  Speaker 3: think independence and a lot of the political energy class
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  Speaker 3: are like the people who are engaged in politics are especially,
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  Speaker 3: But I'm not going to underestimate a significant none.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, if you have a financial crash and a
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  Speaker 2: deadly war we have, I mean, look, look, you already
• 13:08
  Speaker 2: have you already have Trump in the thirties in terms
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  Speaker 2: of his approval rating. You are absolutely right. I will
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  Speaker 2: be the first to tell you that, Like, it is
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  Speaker 2: a cult, and there are people who will never leave
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  Speaker 2: and it does not matter what happens. But they are
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  Speaker 2: far from the majority. And you know, and I think
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  Speaker 2: even within the you know, people who voted for Trump
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  Speaker 2: three times, I think you will see some slice of
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  Speaker 2: them at least say, you know, this is not great.
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  Speaker 4: And we see it in the poll numbers too.
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  Speaker 2: With the strong support for Trump versus the support for Trump, like,
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  Speaker 2: those numbers have shifted significantly, so you know, going into
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  Speaker 2: a rock.
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  Speaker 4: We just showed the numbers.
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  Speaker 2: It was seventy percent of the country that was on
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  Speaker 2: board with that to start from twenty percent. And things
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  Speaker 2: are already going sideways and we're not even hearing from
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  Speaker 2: the President.
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  Speaker 4: Of the United States. I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: I think I think this will be it's just catastrophic
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  Speaker 2: on everything. Well, I hope it just catastrophic.
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  Speaker 3: I hope that they I hope that they get punished
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  Speaker 3: beyond belief. But I'm still just I just remember I
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  Speaker 3: remember Bush, I remember growing up in that in that
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  Speaker 3: environment and being I feel like I'm going fucking crazy.
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  Speaker 4: Here's the real believer, Here's the real thing.
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  Speaker 2: Is that I think they they already know that if
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  Speaker 2: it's a free and fair fight, like they're cooked in
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  Speaker 2: the midterms, if it's any sort of like legitimate election,
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  Speaker 2: and so I think that is the other calculus here,
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  Speaker 2: Like we've already seen them throw out a potential We
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  Speaker 2: had that that memo that came to light of them
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  Speaker 2: declaring a national emergency over bamboo ballots China interference in
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  Speaker 2: the elections. So they have their floating that the potential
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  Speaker 2: Madureau deal. There was reporting on that which you know,
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  Speaker 2: seems like a fever dream conspiracy. Apparently they really are
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  Speaker 2: thinking of getting Maduro to be like, oh yeah, I
• 14:53
  Speaker 2: totally rigged the election from Venezuela with Hugo Jabas's ghost.
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  Speaker 2: You've got Tolsi doing something in Puerto Rico, you got
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  Speaker 2: Tolsi doing something, and Fulton County, and now you have
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  Speaker 2: this war with Iran where Trump also said that Iran
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  Speaker 2: interfered in twenty twenty as well. So he is looking
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  Speaker 2: for a way to not just mess with the elections,
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  Speaker 2: but to Clara national murn to move the elect I mean,
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  Speaker 2: really seize control of what's going to happen here, because
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  Speaker 2: I think he knows that he's, you know, electorally a
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  Speaker 2: dead man walking already. So I do think that is
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  Speaker 2: part of the calculus that's going into this as well
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  Speaker 2: as you try to wrap your heat around why any
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  Speaker 2: president would do something that is so profoundly stupid and unpopular.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, but I think actually what's ironic about this is
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  Speaker 3: that the more unpopular he gets, he will actually increase
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  Speaker 3: the amount of people. If he was strong or even
• 15:43
  Speaker 3: medium like going into something like this, you would have
• 15:46
  Speaker 3: like some sort of a solid foundation to be able
• 15:49
  Speaker 3: to argue off of I don't think that's going to happen.
• 15:51
  Speaker 3: I mean, look, I just talked about the dead enders.
• 15:53
  Speaker 3: There's also a significant portion of let's say even I mean, look,
• 15:56
  Speaker 3: you had Republican senators even who are coming out and
• 15:58
  Speaker 3: saying that they might vote I guess a war Powers
• 16:00
  Speaker 3: resolution like the you know, the level of weakness that
• 16:03
  Speaker 3: you're starting to get into.
• 16:04
  Speaker 1: You could go past George W.
• 16:05
  Speaker 3: Bush, who was around thirty percent at the height of
• 16:07
  Speaker 3: the war in Iraq, and there was an incredible amount
• 16:10
  Speaker 3: of people who are like, all right, we got to
• 16:12
  Speaker 3: give in. You know, even you know McCain even, and
• 16:14
  Speaker 3: all of them would criticize Trump on the campaign trail.
• 16:17
  Speaker 3: They've got serious, serious problem.
• 16:19
  Speaker 4: No, I agree with you. I mean, it's an incredible act.
• 16:21
  Speaker 2: Of hubris to think that you could just That's what
• 16:23
  Speaker 2: I'm saying, that you could just impose your will on
• 16:26
  Speaker 2: the entirety of the American public at basically the barrel
• 16:29
  Speaker 2: of a gun.
• 16:29
  Speaker 4: Like I even in.
• 16:31
  Speaker 2: Actual dictatorships, the public still is going to have a
• 16:34
  Speaker 2: say at some point. You're still somewhat constrained by like
• 16:37
  Speaker 2: what people are going to tolerate. And yeah, if you're
• 16:41
  Speaker 2: if you are causing a financial collapse, people are struggling
• 16:45
  Speaker 2: to afford like basic necessities. You're threatening to take all
• 16:48
  Speaker 2: the jobs away with AI, and you're getting us into
• 16:52
  Speaker 2: a disastrous war. You know, I think you're going to
• 16:55
  Speaker 2: be I think I think you're going to People are
• 16:57
  Speaker 2: not going to just go along with you. Also rigging
• 16:59
  Speaker 2: and stealing deal actions. I think they'll have something to
• 17:01
  Speaker 2: say about.
• 17:01
  Speaker 3: Thatsh Yeah, no, no, okay, all right, let's get to
• 17:04
  Speaker 3: Jeffrey Sachs, Professor. He's standing by, very excited now to
• 17:10
  Speaker 3: be joined by our friend of the show, Professor Jeffrey Sachs.
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: Good to see sir. Thank you so much for coming back.
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  Speaker 5: Great to be with you.
• 17:15
  Speaker 3: I wish it was under better circumstances. We did, of course,
• 17:18
  Speaker 3: want to turn to you for a bigger picture of
• 17:21
  Speaker 3: what this all means. Let's go and first start with
• 17:22
  Speaker 3: our first element, Prime Minister bb Netanyah, who's saying the
• 17:26
  Speaker 3: quiet part out loud. He says, in bombing Iran, Israel
• 17:29
  Speaker 3: has now the assistance of the United States, my friend
• 17:32
  Speaker 3: President Donald Trump in the US military. This coalition of
• 17:35
  Speaker 3: force US allows us to do what I've yearned to
• 17:37
  Speaker 3: do for forty years.
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: Forty years.
• 17:40
  Speaker 3: It's a dream that the Prime Minister had despite all
• 17:43
  Speaker 3: of the alleged pretexts about preemptive attacks, nuclear strikes, ballistic missiles.
• 17:47
  Speaker 3: This is something that has been the heart of the
• 17:49
  Speaker 3: bb Netanyah who projectors was wondering if you could react
• 17:52
  Speaker 3: to that and frame your general thoughts around this entire
• 17:56
  Speaker 3: regional war that has now erupted.
• 17:58
  Speaker 6: I hadn't seen that quote, but if he said, what
• 18:00
  Speaker 6: an asshole he is. I've been saying that for years,
• 18:04
  Speaker 6: that this is his dream, his campaign. I've put it
• 18:10
  Speaker 6: at thirty years since nineteen ninety six, a doctrine called
• 18:13
  Speaker 6: Clean Break, which was a madman's document of a madman
• 18:20
  Speaker 6: bb net Yahoo and his arch neocon extremist desionist advisors
• 18:28
  Speaker 6: in nineteen ninety six that basically was the blueprint for
• 18:32
  Speaker 6: NonStop war in the Middle East. And NOWT Yahoo says
• 18:38
  Speaker 6: what I've been saying. When I've been saying it, people
• 18:41
  Speaker 6: have sometimes scoffed, But oh it's now I know. It's
• 18:45
  Speaker 6: a forty year plan, not just a thirty year plan.
• 18:47
  Speaker 6: The man is a psychopath and this is the reality
• 18:52
  Speaker 6: of it. We have been roped into endless war by
• 18:58
  Speaker 6: these extreme Zionists, and we're now in an ever greater
• 19:06
  Speaker 6: escalation to full regional war for the purpose of Israeli
• 19:12
  Speaker 6: hegemony in the Middle East. Of course, it aligns with
• 19:16
  Speaker 6: the mad men in Washington who and Langley who want
• 19:21
  Speaker 6: US hegemony in the world.
• 19:23
  Speaker 5: But that's what this is about.
• 19:25
  Speaker 6: They don't count how many schoolgirls are dead. They couldn't
• 19:30
  Speaker 6: care less. That's the whole point. There's nothing in this
• 19:36
  Speaker 6: about the dead. This is all mad men's delusions.
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: Let's go and put up E two on the screen here.
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: So Trump is saying now he wants to talk to
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: the Iranians after assassinating their supreme leader and bombing their
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: country and starting this war. He told the Atlantic quote,
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: they want to talk, I've agreed to talk, so I'll
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: be talking to them. On the contrary, though, it does
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: not appear that the Iranians want to talk for understandable reasons,
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: especially after we use diplomacy now multiple times in a
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: row as a ruse in order to attack their country.
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: But what do you make of this outreach from President
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: Trump and also the relative silence from the administration after
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: launching this war.
• 20:23
  Speaker 5: Trump's crazy.
• 20:24
  Speaker 6: He may even believe this but he's crazy, or he's psychopathic,
• 20:30
  Speaker 6: or it's what's called the dark Triad personality, extreme machiavellianism,
• 20:38
  Speaker 6: inability to understand anything, murder the other side and say
• 20:42
  Speaker 6: we love you. That's his approach. It's completely spiraling out
• 20:49
  Speaker 6: of control. I don't think he's the only agent of this,
• 20:53
  Speaker 6: by the way, I think this is this is the
• 20:57
  Speaker 6: CIA longstanding effort. What bt Nyahu said again, I'm better
• 21:04
  Speaker 6: informed this morning, thanks to you. It's forty years, not
• 21:07
  Speaker 6: thirty years. I always put it at a thirty year effort.
• 21:11
  Speaker 6: But we have gone to war in Libya, Sudan, Somalia,
• 21:19
  Speaker 6: Occupied Palestine, Lebanon, Syria, Iraq, Yemen, and Iran for this extremist,
• 21:35
  Speaker 6: delusional purpose. And what have we gotten out of it?
• 21:42
  Speaker 6: Millions dead, but we're not supposed to count the dead,
• 21:48
  Speaker 6: trillions of dollars of loss. Chaos from Libya to Iran,
• 21:57
  Speaker 6: I mean chaos, a region across the entire North Africa,
• 22:03
  Speaker 6: Horn of Africa and the Middle East in chaos because
• 22:06
  Speaker 6: of this insane Zionism and the US complicity in it
• 22:11
  Speaker 6: and the delusions of control. How many wars will we
• 22:16
  Speaker 6: get into? But you know, interestingly, two points one. The
• 22:21
  Speaker 6: American people see through this entirely. They're completely against this.
• 22:28
  Speaker 6: Trump Well, to say that Trump lied is to sound
• 22:32
  Speaker 6: like an idiot. Of course Trump lies every time he
• 22:34
  Speaker 6: opens his mouth. But his campaign was about not doing
• 22:41
  Speaker 6: exactly this. But he's a puppet. He's a puppet of
• 22:45
  Speaker 6: the CIA, and a puppet of Miriam Aedelman and a
• 22:50
  Speaker 6: puppet of a bb Net Yahoo. So he's a puppet
• 22:53
  Speaker 6: or blackmailed or something. So this is one point. The
• 22:57
  Speaker 6: American people are completely against this, and as the Gallup
• 23:02
  Speaker 6: poll showed last Friday, the American people are on the
• 23:06
  Speaker 6: side of the Palestinians. Both make complete sense. This is
• 23:11
  Speaker 6: a madhouse. This is not in any remote way rational, deliberate, legal, honest,
• 23:25
  Speaker 6: aimed at our security. It's aimed at the delusion of
• 23:31
  Speaker 6: complete control. Yeah, well, yeah, you can't control the world
• 23:37
  Speaker 6: this way. Mad men have tried for millennia. We're just
• 23:43
  Speaker 6: the latest in this. But it comes to a very
• 23:46
  Speaker 6: bad end.
• 23:47
  Speaker 3: And I think that we're saying that all right now,
• 23:49
  Speaker 3: especially with people like Lindsay Graham at the forefront. Why
• 23:52
  Speaker 3: don't we take a listen to his comment about what
• 23:54
  Speaker 3: the future of Iran should look like? Sounds a lot
• 23:57
  Speaker 3: like what we have had in store for Iraq. Let's
• 23:59
  Speaker 3: take a lot.
• 24:00
  Speaker 7: The social media post Sunday, President Trump wrote this quote,
• 24:04
  Speaker 7: Hopefully the IRGC and police will peacefully merge with the
• 24:08
  Speaker 7: Iranian patriots and work together as a unit to bring
• 24:12
  Speaker 7: back the country to the greatness it deserves, is hope.
• 24:17
  Speaker 7: The plan for the future of Iran.
• 24:22
  Speaker 8: No, the future of Iran is going to be determined
• 24:25
  Speaker 8: by the Iranian people. The new Iran, whatever it is,
• 24:30
  Speaker 8: whether it's a cleric or a representative democracy, our goal
• 24:35
  Speaker 8: is to make sure it cannot become again the largest
• 24:38
  Speaker 8: state sponsor of terrorism.
• 24:39
  Speaker 5: That's a win for us.
• 24:41
  Speaker 7: But is there a plan to make sure that happens? Senator?
• 24:45
  Speaker 7: Is there a plan? Does the President have a plan
• 24:47
  Speaker 7: to guarantee that that happens.
• 24:50
  Speaker 8: No, it's not his job or my job to do this.
• 24:54
  Speaker 8: How many times do I have to tell you? Our
• 24:56
  Speaker 8: job is to make sure Iran is no longer the
• 24:59
  Speaker 8: largest sponsor of terrorism, to help the people reconstruct a
• 25:03
  Speaker 8: new government. No boots on the ground. We don't own
• 25:06
  Speaker 8: you know this idea, you break it, you own it.
• 25:08
  Speaker 8: I don't buy that one did. It's an America's interest
• 25:11
  Speaker 8: to make sure, the Iotola is dead.
• 25:13
  Speaker 5: He's dead.
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: He doesn't buy that.
• 25:15
  Speaker 3: You break it, you own it, he says, dodges the
• 25:18
  Speaker 3: question there about any sort of plan that's currently in place.
• 25:22
  Speaker 3: As you were saying earlier, it seems now like a
• 25:25
  Speaker 3: literal madhouse in this government. Literally, Sarah, while you were talking,
• 25:29
  Speaker 3: I just have to read you this quote from the
• 25:30
  Speaker 3: Secretary of Defense. This is not a so called regime
• 25:33
  Speaker 3: change war, but the regime sure did change. This is
• 25:36
  Speaker 3: what we're dealing with now currently.
• 25:38
  Speaker 5: Yeah, secretary of war, I have to correct you. Well,
• 25:41
  Speaker 5: start defense, I said, Secretary of Defense. But yeah, we
• 25:45
  Speaker 5: have war. Yeah.
• 25:47
  Speaker 6: Well, I've spent decades, along with bemoaning bb Netnaho and
• 25:52
  Speaker 6: clean Break, thinking that Lindsey Graham is the stupidest person
• 25:56
  Speaker 6: in Washington, the most vile. That's a very tough competition,
• 26:01
  Speaker 6: by the way, but that man has never opened his
• 26:04
  Speaker 6: mouth in thirty years without wanting more deaths of other people.
• 26:08
  Speaker 6: And now he also says so clearly, no responsibility. I
• 26:14
  Speaker 6: would like the American people to understand. I'm sure that
• 26:17
  Speaker 6: they do. But just to clarify, we have been meddling
• 26:21
  Speaker 6: in and destroying Iran now for seventy three years actively.
• 26:29
  Speaker 6: It was in nineteen fifty three that the CIA and
• 26:34
  Speaker 6: MI six overthrew the democratically elected and popular government of
• 26:40
  Speaker 6: Prime Minister Mosadek. They did it because Mosadic had the
• 26:45
  Speaker 6: complete audacity to say that the oil in Iran should
• 26:49
  Speaker 6: belong to the Iranian people. This was far too much
• 26:53
  Speaker 6: for Alan dolls at the CIA and for MI six,
• 26:58
  Speaker 6: who knew full well the oil in Iran belongs to
• 27:02
  Speaker 6: Britain and to the United States, so they overthrew him.
• 27:06
  Speaker 6: In that case, there was a quote successful regime change
• 27:10
  Speaker 6: operation which put in place a police state, the state
• 27:15
  Speaker 6: led by the puppet, the Shah of Iran. In nineteen
• 27:21
  Speaker 6: seventy nine, he was overthrown in a mass revulsion against
• 27:26
  Speaker 6: decades of an American imposed police state, and this government
• 27:30
  Speaker 6: came into power immediately. Immediately, the United States armed Iraq
• 27:37
  Speaker 6: to kill hundreds of thousands of Iranians in the Iraq
• 27:43
  Speaker 6: Iran War between nineteen eighty and nineteen eighty eight. Saddam
• 27:47
  Speaker 6: Hussein was our guy. He was the CIA's guy. Of course,
• 27:52
  Speaker 6: when the CIA is done with you, they kill you.
• 27:56
  Speaker 6: So Saddam became the worst enemy of the United States.
• 28:00
  Speaker 6: Soon afterwards, after he had done the bidding of the
• 28:03
  Speaker 6: United States for years. Since then, it has been actually,
• 28:08
  Speaker 6: now I know, since nineteen eighty six, it's been bb Netnyow,
• 28:12
  Speaker 6: who's a dream to overthrow the Iranian government. I always
• 28:16
  Speaker 6: counted it as nineteen ninety six, but the United States
• 28:20
  Speaker 6: has been using every subterfuge, covert operation. It has been
• 28:28
  Speaker 6: using assassinations, economic warfare, crushing the Iranian economy ever since.
• 28:37
  Speaker 6: The Iranians have said all that time they don't want
• 28:42
  Speaker 6: a nuclear weapon. Bb netnew who is a psychopath, said
• 28:48
  Speaker 6: in nineteen ninety six they are weeks away, days away,
• 28:51
  Speaker 6: months away. And he's been saying that for thirty years.
• 28:55
  Speaker 6: For all I know, he's been saying it for forty years.
• 28:58
  Speaker 6: He is a vulgar, blatant, genocidal liar. I hope I'm
• 29:02
  Speaker 6: being clear. This is we're dealing with something absolutely dangerous
• 29:08
  Speaker 6: in this world that is running our country. So it's
• 29:12
  Speaker 6: extremely dangerous. The Iranians did not want a nuclear weapon.
• 29:18
  Speaker 6: The religious leader who they just assassinated was the one
• 29:22
  Speaker 6: that said no nuclear weapons. It's against Islam, so kill him.
• 29:28
  Speaker 6: It had nothing to do with nuclear weapons. All this time,
• 29:32
  Speaker 6: the Iranians reached out constantly to negotiate, and in twenty
• 29:37
  Speaker 6: fifteen they concluded an agreement with the United States, Britain, France, Russia, China,
• 29:45
  Speaker 6: and Germany the p five countries plus one called the
• 29:50
  Speaker 6: Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action, and it put Iran strictly
• 29:55
  Speaker 6: under UN supervision in the International Atomic Energy Agency. Bib Neetnia,
• 30:02
  Speaker 6: who had a fit because he wanted to overthrow the government.
• 30:06
  Speaker 6: He did not want peaceful relations with a non nuclear Iran.
• 30:12
  Speaker 6: So Donald Trump, who is a puppet of our Cia,
• 30:17
  Speaker 6: Mosad and Miriam Madleson in the rest, ripped up the
• 30:23
  Speaker 6: JCPOA in twenty eighteen. That's the story. Then they bombed
• 30:29
  Speaker 6: one of Iran's nuclear facilities. And by the way, during
• 30:32
  Speaker 6: the period from twenty fifteen to twenty eighteen, Iran stuck
• 30:38
  Speaker 6: with the agreement, even though the United States cheated on
• 30:41
  Speaker 6: the agreement that it signed because it was supposed to
• 30:44
  Speaker 6: and the US sanctions which it did not do. Then
• 30:48
  Speaker 6: Trump ripped it up. Then they began a campaign of assassinations.
• 30:53
  Speaker 6: Then they began bombing Iran's nuclear facilities. And that's the story.
• 31:01
  Speaker 6: They don't want an agreement. Last year they negotiated and
• 31:07
  Speaker 6: then in the middle of the negotiations bombed Iran. This year,
• 31:11
  Speaker 6: again they negotiated and then bombed Iran. You might ask,
• 31:18
  Speaker 6: why did Iran come back to the negotiating table this
• 31:22
  Speaker 6: time after the falsity last time. I'll tell you why.
• 31:27
  Speaker 6: It's a little strange. It's a little weird. But nobody
• 31:32
  Speaker 6: behaves as badly as the United States. So it's very
• 31:35
  Speaker 6: hard to calibrate when there is a government that says
• 31:39
  Speaker 6: we're negotiating, when they bring in a mediator, in this
• 31:43
  Speaker 6: case Oman, when the US negotiators Witkoff and Kushner say, oh,
• 31:51
  Speaker 6: we're making progress, it's hard for other people to calibrate
• 31:57
  Speaker 6: the evil that's under it. This was a premeditated war
• 32:02
  Speaker 6: and the negotiations are a pretext. So this is what's happening.
• 32:11
  Speaker 6: It's amazing, it's you don't see this anywhere else.
• 32:15
  Speaker 5: In the world.
• 32:16
  Speaker 6: By the way, at the emergency meeting of the UN
• 32:19
  Speaker 6: Security Council that I attended on Saturday, you see how
• 32:26
  Speaker 6: we're in the looking glass because one country after another
• 32:31
  Speaker 6: attacked Iran for its violence. Even Bahrain called it unprovoked
• 32:38
  Speaker 6: attack by Iran. Well, it's actually easy to do the
• 32:44
  Speaker 6: scorecard if your country hosts the US military. First of all,
• 32:51
  Speaker 6: it means that you also host the CIA. It means
• 32:55
  Speaker 6: you are an occupied country. And so everyone that spoke
• 32:59
  Speaker 6: against Iran as an occupied country by the United States.
• 33:02
  Speaker 6: These are not independent countries. When we listen to Mertz
• 33:06
  Speaker 6: or to Macron, or to the Danes or to the British,
• 33:11
  Speaker 6: the US military and CIA is all over those countries
• 33:15
  Speaker 6: and has been for decades. These are not independent voices.
• 33:20
  Speaker 6: These are part of the vassal states of the empire.
• 33:24
  Speaker 6: This empire is destroying itself in its bloodyness, its bloody mindedness,
• 33:32
  Speaker 6: its murders, its wars, its debts, the trillions of dollars
• 33:37
  Speaker 6: we're spending in this. But this is an empire that
• 33:40
  Speaker 6: is behaving so shockingly that others actually can't calibrate. They
• 33:47
  Speaker 6: don't understand that negotiation means we will come to murder you,
• 33:53
  Speaker 6: and that the best thing is we will murder your
• 33:56
  Speaker 6: religious leader.
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: Let me go ahead and put E five up on
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: the screen to your point about the golf allies here.
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: So there was a Saudi analyst who went on Al
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: Jazeera and told them, quote, America has abandoned US and
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: focused its defense systems on protecting Israel leaving the Gulf
• 34:14
  Speaker 2: states that host its military bases at the mercy of
• 34:17
  Speaker 2: Iranian missiles and drones. And we have seen some impacts
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: throughout the region, including unbelievable images in Dubai, which is
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: of course a playground of the global rich, where some
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: of the luxury hotels have been hit. I can scarcely
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: wrap my head around the level of you know, damage,
• 34:37
  Speaker 2: brand damage and economic damage that will be done over
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: the long term. What do you make of these comments
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: and potentially a reassessment that is being done here by
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: the Saudis as they see that the US is number
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: one priority is ourselves and the Israelis well.
• 34:53
  Speaker 6: I would refer them to two observations, first by President
• 34:57
  Speaker 6: John F. Kennedy and is Inaugura address, he said, those
• 35:01
  Speaker 6: who would ride on the back of the tiger often
• 35:04
  Speaker 6: find themselves inside it. In other words, you ride on
• 35:09
  Speaker 6: the back of a violent empire, you become a victim.
• 35:13
  Speaker 6: So the Saudis have known full well they host US
• 35:17
  Speaker 6: military bases, the Gulf countries host US military bases. The
• 35:21
  Speaker 6: behavior of the United States is brazen and illegal, so
• 35:25
  Speaker 6: this is what comes. I would also cite Henry Kissinger's
• 35:30
  Speaker 6: famous adage that to be an enemy of the United
• 35:34
  Speaker 6: States is dangerous, but to be a friend is fatal.
• 35:38
  Speaker 6: So these countries need to grow up. They need to understand.
• 35:43
  Speaker 6: Does the Arab world want to be a vassal of
• 35:46
  Speaker 6: the United States. I don't think so. Does that provide
• 35:50
  Speaker 6: them security? I don't think so. And incidentally, the damage
• 35:54
  Speaker 6: to an entrepos like Dubai is devastating. This is supposed
• 36:01
  Speaker 6: to be the place where it's safe to bring your family,
• 36:03
  Speaker 6: to bring your money, to come for vacation, not to
• 36:07
  Speaker 6: be in a hotel that is bombed. This will have
• 36:11
  Speaker 6: a very, very long shadow on the region. But that
• 36:16
  Speaker 6: is the miscalculation that these countries have made. They've watched
• 36:21
  Speaker 6: the United States and Israel committed genocide in Gaza. They
• 36:25
  Speaker 6: were quiet because they're occupied. They think this is safe.
• 36:29
  Speaker 6: This is not safe. The safety in our world is
• 36:32
  Speaker 6: to speak the truth. It's not to go along with
• 36:36
  Speaker 6: the brazen evil of power.
• 36:39
  Speaker 3: Finally, I'm just curious for how you think you we
• 36:42
  Speaker 3: talked there about the UN Security Council. There's been a
• 36:45
  Speaker 3: lot of big talk by the President of Canada or
• 36:47
  Speaker 3: the Prime Minister of Canada. The New World order is changing,
• 36:50
  Speaker 3: he immediately supports the regime change war with Iran. You
• 36:52
  Speaker 3: just talked here about the vassal states of Europe. For
• 36:55
  Speaker 3: how long are their populations going to put up with this?
• 36:58
  Speaker 3: We just did a segment about blowbacks pecifically across the
• 37:01
  Speaker 3: entire Middle East, including a possible terrorist attack right here
• 37:04
  Speaker 3: on our own country, reminiscent of many of the scenes
• 37:07
  Speaker 3: from the war in Iraq and the so called global
• 37:10
  Speaker 3: war on terror. Do you think this is going to
• 37:11
  Speaker 3: be a prolonged kind of earth shaking geopolitical movement or
• 37:15
  Speaker 3: is there any point at all for us to be
• 37:17
  Speaker 3: able to pull back from the brink and Trump can
• 37:19
  Speaker 3: just falsely declare victory and move on, or is just
• 37:22
  Speaker 3: the genie out of the bottle completely.
• 37:24
  Speaker 6: I just want to point out that a momentous event
• 37:27
  Speaker 6: last week, which seems like a different world because it is,
• 37:33
  Speaker 6: was when the German Chancellor Mertz went to China and
• 37:39
  Speaker 6: there were clips of him watching the Chinese robots performing.
• 37:45
  Speaker 6: He was watching something the United States can't do, Europe
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  Speaker 6: can't do. He was watching a country that is at
• 37:52
  Speaker 6: peace and that is moving forward technologically, that is investing,
• 37:57
  Speaker 6: that is at the frontier of technology to the United
• 38:01
  Speaker 6: States in the meantime is mass murdering people, killing people,
• 38:05
  Speaker 6: running a budget deficit of seven percent of GDP, and
• 38:09
  Speaker 6: can't keep our goddamn infrastructure working at all. You come
• 38:12
  Speaker 6: back to any American infrastructure, any airport. Nothing works, not
• 38:17
  Speaker 6: the escalators, not the elevators, not the walkways, nothing works.
• 38:21
  Speaker 5: Our government is half shut down.
• 38:23
  Speaker 6: So the reality is we are doing ourselves in this
• 38:27
  Speaker 6: way under this quest for global hegemony. That's the real
• 38:34
  Speaker 6: story here. How self destructive this is, by the way,
• 38:39
  Speaker 6: how much Trump lied every word about claiming that he
• 38:43
  Speaker 6: was going to stop this. He didn't stop it at all.
• 38:46
  Speaker 6: He just opened up the floodgates of more killing.
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  Speaker 2: Frusser Sax, thank you, as always for your insights. We're
• 38:52
  Speaker 2: really grateful for your time this morning.
• 38:53
  Speaker 5: Thank you, sick to be with you, thank you.
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: All Right, guys, we've got yet another heavy hitter guest
• 39:01
  Speaker 2: and first time guest on the show, Professor Jang. He
• 39:03
  Speaker 2: is the star of the popular YouTube channel Predictive History.
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: He uses game theory to analyze past, current and to
• 39:09
  Speaker 2: predict future geopolitical events, and he joins us now.
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  Speaker 4: Professor, great to.
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  Speaker 1: Have you, goodness you sir, thanks ag Wating me.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, of course.
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  Speaker 2: So you know, for people who aren't familiar with your work,
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: I wanted to show folks that back in twenty twenty
• 39:22
  Speaker 2: four you made three big predictions, one that Trump would win,
• 39:28
  Speaker 2: two that he would start a war with a run,
• 39:30
  Speaker 2: and three.
• 39:31
  Speaker 4: That the US would lose that war. Let's take a
• 39:34
  Speaker 4: listen to that.
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  Speaker 9: In this class the semester, I'm making three big predictions right,
• 39:40
  Speaker 9: First is that Trump will win in November. Second is
• 39:46
  Speaker 9: that the United States will go to war against Irad.
• 39:51
  Speaker 9: And the third big big prediction is that the United
• 39:54
  Speaker 9: States will lose this war, which will forever change the
• 40:00
  Speaker 9: global order.
• 40:01
  Speaker 2: So obviously that last one is the only one that
• 40:05
  Speaker 2: has not yet come to fruition. Is quite a stunning prediction.
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: Do you stand by it? And what have you seen
• 40:09
  Speaker 2: so far that leads you to sort of stand firm
• 40:12
  Speaker 2: in that conclusion.
• 40:13
  Speaker 9: So, given my analysis of how the war's progressing, I
• 40:18
  Speaker 9: think that Iran has many more advantages over the United States.
• 40:24
  Speaker 5: The reality is that right now.
• 40:27
  Speaker 9: It's a war attrition between United States and Iran, and
• 40:31
  Speaker 9: the Iranians have preparing twenty years for this conflict. In
• 40:36
  Speaker 9: the eschatology in the religion. This is a war against
• 40:39
  Speaker 9: the Great Satan. They've had many practice runs. Last June
• 40:44
  Speaker 9: was a twelve day war when the Iranians were able
• 40:48
  Speaker 9: to examine analyze the strict capacities of both.
• 40:52
  Speaker 5: Israelis and Americans.
• 40:54
  Speaker 9: And they've had a lot of time eight months to
• 40:57
  Speaker 9: prepare folly for this new attack.
• 41:03
  Speaker 5: They through their proxies the.
• 41:05
  Speaker 9: Hoofis Hespella Hamas and that She militias, have been able
• 41:12
  Speaker 9: to really grasp the American mentality and now they have
• 41:18
  Speaker 9: a pretty good strategy of how to weaken and ultimately
• 41:21
  Speaker 9: destroy the American Empire. So what uh the Iranians are
• 41:26
  Speaker 9: doing is they're not They're waging war against the entire
• 41:29
  Speaker 9: global economy. And so they are striking the GCC countries.
• 41:35
  Speaker 9: And not only are they striking GCZ countries American basis,
• 41:38
  Speaker 9: they're going after the critical energy infrastructure of these bases.
• 41:42
  Speaker 9: They blocked up the trip Homus and eventually they will
• 41:46
  Speaker 9: go after the water desalidation plants, which is a lifeblood
• 41:50
  Speaker 9: of these nations because they don't have fresh water supply.
• 41:54
  Speaker 9: In fact, uh, the water desalidation plants provides sixty percent of.
• 41:59
  Speaker 5: The gsees water supply.
• 42:03
  Speaker 9: So if a drone and you know these drones cost
• 42:06
  Speaker 9: fifty thousand dollars, if they wiped out a desarvation plant
• 42:10
  Speaker 9: in read Sardi Arabia, and it's a city of ten
• 42:13
  Speaker 9: million people, right.
• 42:15
  Speaker 5: They'd be out of water in two weeks. In two weeks.
• 42:21
  Speaker 9: And right now the Ranians have the Facto closed off.
• 42:24
  Speaker 9: The Chevoe moves and the g C gets ninety percent
• 42:28
  Speaker 9: of its food from the Chevoll moose. So I know
• 42:33
  Speaker 9: a lot you're talking about the disruptions to global economy,
• 42:37
  Speaker 9: but right now the Iranians are actually threatening the very
• 42:42
  Speaker 9: existence of Saudi Arabia, uae Raan Qatar. And what this
• 42:48
  Speaker 9: is important is that the Gulf States are really the
• 42:52
  Speaker 9: lynchpin of the American economy. So what they do is
• 42:57
  Speaker 9: they sell petrol dollars and any recycle the picture dollars
• 43:00
  Speaker 9: back into the American economy, food investments in a stock market.
• 43:05
  Speaker 9: And right now we know that the entire entire market
• 43:08
  Speaker 9: economy is propped up by AI investments in data centers
• 43:12
  Speaker 9: and a lot of that comes from the Gulf States.
• 43:16
  Speaker 9: So if the Golf States are not longer able to
• 43:20
  Speaker 9: sell oil and they're longer able to finance AI. This
• 43:25
  Speaker 9: AI bubble United States, then this all public.
• 43:28
  Speaker 5: Will burst and with it will.
• 43:32
  Speaker 9: Will burst as well as well the entire American economy,
• 43:35
  Speaker 9: which is really a financial Ponty scheme. So that's that's
• 43:38
  Speaker 9: a dire situation that the markets are phasing right now.
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean to your points there.
• 43:42
  Speaker 3: An Amazon data center was literally hit in the UAE,
• 43:45
  Speaker 3: and now, of course big tech companies which we're looking at.
• 43:48
  Speaker 3: The UAE is a major potential data center investment hub
• 43:51
  Speaker 3: with cheap and abundant energy probably going to be rethinking that.
• 43:54
  Speaker 3: We also wanted to talk to you about munitions. We
• 43:57
  Speaker 3: can put this next one up here on the screen.
• 43:59
  Speaker 3: United States is racing to accomplish Iran mission before munitions
• 44:03
  Speaker 3: run out. This is specifically around interceptor math. There's a
• 44:06
  Speaker 3: famous video just from yesterday in Israel which shows a
• 44:10
  Speaker 3: single Iranian ballistic missile which is being targeted by some
• 44:13
  Speaker 3: eleven different interceptors, all of which miss most of those
• 44:17
  Speaker 3: come from the United States, not to mention all of
• 44:20
  Speaker 3: the different bases the GCC countries that you just talked about,
• 44:23
  Speaker 3: and the asymmetry of the cost. It's a million dollar
• 44:26
  Speaker 3: for a missile, tens of millions per interceptor in some
• 44:29
  Speaker 3: of these cases, with these munitions running out, how does
• 44:32
  Speaker 3: that change the global picture? So you're in China, obviously
• 44:36
  Speaker 3: much of the stocks in Asia of the United States
• 44:38
  Speaker 3: are likely to have to be cannibalized if this were
• 44:41
  Speaker 3: to go on. How's that going to affect the global
• 44:42
  Speaker 3: picture here?
• 44:44
  Speaker 5: Right?
• 44:44
  Speaker 9: So my first point is that the United States military
• 44:48
  Speaker 9: is not design to fight a twenty first century war. Remember,
• 44:52
  Speaker 9: the Military Industrial Complex came to being after World War II,
• 44:55
  Speaker 9: and it's designed to fight the Cold War. And the
• 44:58
  Speaker 9: Cold War was really about uscle flexing about who was
• 45:00
  Speaker 9: able to send people up in the space, was able
• 45:03
  Speaker 9: who was to first get the person on the moon,
• 45:06
  Speaker 9: who had the more complex missile systems, And so the
• 45:11
  Speaker 9: entire American military strategy revolves around very sophisticately sophisticated tech
• 45:17
  Speaker 9: technology that costs a lot of money to build. And
• 45:22
  Speaker 9: that's what the American in defense system is is, basically,
• 45:26
  Speaker 9: and that's why we're seeing this asymmetry, as you point out,
• 45:30
  Speaker 9: in this war where you have these million dollar missiles
• 45:33
  Speaker 9: trying to take out these fifty thousand dollars drones, and
• 45:34
  Speaker 9: it's not sustainable in the long term, and So what
• 45:38
  Speaker 9: we're seeing is really the puncturing of the aura of
• 45:43
  Speaker 9: invincibility and inevitability that sustained American hegendimony for the past
• 45:48
  Speaker 9: twenty years, especially after the collapse of the Soviet Union.
• 45:52
  Speaker 9: And this is really a reordering of not just a
• 45:54
  Speaker 9: global economy, because this signals the collapse of the petro
• 45:58
  Speaker 9: dollar and with it the entire US dollar based reserve
• 46:04
  Speaker 9: currency system, but also global the global hegeminy of the
• 46:09
  Speaker 9: United States.
• 46:09
  Speaker 5: We're moving towards a multipolar.
• 46:10
  Speaker 4: World, professor.
• 46:13
  Speaker 2: This morning, Secretary of War Pete Heegsath was asked a
• 46:17
  Speaker 2: question about potential ground troops in Iran. He refused to
• 46:21
  Speaker 2: rule out that possibility, and he said, you know, well,
• 46:24
  Speaker 2: we're not going to project to you what we will
• 46:27
  Speaker 2: or will not do. What we don't want to, you know,
• 46:29
  Speaker 2: rule anything out. We will do what it takes. Do
• 46:32
  Speaker 2: you think that America will end up invading Iran from
• 46:36
  Speaker 2: the ground, since it's already becoming relatively clear they won't
• 46:40
  Speaker 2: be able to accomplish the goal of regime change or
• 46:42
  Speaker 2: even regime collapse using just air power alone.
• 46:45
  Speaker 9: Right, So everyone says that the worst calamity that could
• 46:49
  Speaker 9: happen United States is if it were to say ground
• 46:51
  Speaker 9: troops into Iran the same time the United States ar
• 46:56
  Speaker 9: commentary regime change in Iran. We've never had a president
• 47:00
  Speaker 9: in history where you were able to regime change from.
• 47:03
  Speaker 5: The ear alone. You need ground troops.
• 47:06
  Speaker 9: And so unfortunately, what's going to happen over the next
• 47:08
  Speaker 9: few months is that pressure will build on America to
• 47:13
  Speaker 9: send ground troops, especially from the GCC countries and from Israel,
• 47:17
  Speaker 9: which are being powdered right now by the Iranians. So
• 47:21
  Speaker 9: remember that if the GCC country STUDI, Arabia, Qatar, UAE
• 47:27
  Speaker 9: but around, if they go, then the petro dollar goes
• 47:30
  Speaker 9: with them. So the Americans need to protect these countries.
• 47:34
  Speaker 9: And these countries are going to demand that either the
• 47:39
  Speaker 9: Americans bribe the Iranians to cease and this is like
• 47:42
  Speaker 9: fives in indemnity, okay, or send ground troops to wipe
• 47:47
  Speaker 9: out the Iranian thread once and for all. And I
• 47:50
  Speaker 9: know that there's no political will for ground troops to
• 47:55
  Speaker 9: be used against Iran among American people. Remember that seventy
• 47:59
  Speaker 9: eight percent difin people was against initial strikes against Iran
• 48:03
  Speaker 9: in the first place.
• 48:04
  Speaker 3: Right, And one of the things that really comes into question.
• 48:07
  Speaker 3: I think with all of this, or when we're looking
• 48:09
  Speaker 3: at the geopolitical picture and the sacrificing in much of
• 48:13
  Speaker 3: this from the United States on behalf of Israel, is
• 48:15
  Speaker 3: kind of a question as to who and what wanted this.
• 48:18
  Speaker 3: We were actually curious for your review on a disputed
• 48:21
  Speaker 3: report here from the Washington Post. We can put it
• 48:23
  Speaker 3: up here on the screen F three. A push from
• 48:26
  Speaker 3: the Saudis Israel helped move Trump to attack Iran. Now
• 48:29
  Speaker 3: this has been internally disputed by Saudi Arabia saying that
• 48:32
  Speaker 3: they did not push the Trump administration to attack Iran.
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: However, this is clearly.
• 48:37
  Speaker 3: An authorized leak from our own government trying to at
• 48:39
  Speaker 3: least lay some of the blame on behalf of the GCC.
• 48:42
  Speaker 3: What do you make of this analysis and of this
• 48:45
  Speaker 3: narrative that Saudi Arabia was also trying to be behind
• 48:49
  Speaker 3: this push to bomb Iran.
• 48:51
  Speaker 9: So I've always argue that both Saudi Arabia and Israel
• 48:54
  Speaker 9: are heavily invested in regime change in Iran. In fact,
• 48:58
  Speaker 9: Saudi Arabia sees Ran as much more of an eccent
• 49:02
  Speaker 9: crisis than Israel, because remember, Israel still has nuclear weapons
• 49:05
  Speaker 9: and Israel is a very diverse, very sophicated economy, whereas
• 49:09
  Speaker 9: Studi Arabia, it's completely reliant on oil. And it's always
• 49:13
  Speaker 9: had problems with Iran because Iran is a theocracy opposed
• 49:18
  Speaker 9: to the Saudi monarchy. Iran funds and equips the Houthis,
• 49:26
  Speaker 9: which have have been antagonistic towards Saudi rebear for the
• 49:29
  Speaker 9: longest time, and right now they started economy is suffering.
• 49:34
  Speaker 9: It's been trying to pivot towards marve Taurus economy. That's
• 49:38
  Speaker 9: why they brought in Renaldo, That's why they're switching to
• 49:40
  Speaker 9: the e gaming, That's why they're being some building something
• 49:43
  Speaker 9: called a line Neo, and all these things are not
• 49:46
  Speaker 9: working out. So they need to be able to control
• 49:51
  Speaker 9: the oil resources all the entire Middle East there to
• 49:54
  Speaker 9: survive and frag as a nation. So I do believe
• 49:58
  Speaker 9: that this reporting is credible, even though it does make
• 50:02
  Speaker 9: sort everybody look bad. I remember Sarata Arabia says that
• 50:06
  Speaker 9: they wanted peace, but they are helping this release and
• 50:09
  Speaker 9: Americans attack event right now because they're allowing the ares
• 50:14
  Speaker 9: reelies and Americans to use Saudi airspace.
• 50:17
  Speaker 2: So help us understand, because it still feels to me
• 50:19
  Speaker 2: like there are some pieces that don't totally add up.
• 50:23
  Speaker 2: You had in advance of this war on Iran, you
• 50:26
  Speaker 2: had top military brass up to the Chairman of the
• 50:29
  Speaker 2: Joint Chiefs of Staff saying, this is a.
• 50:31
  Speaker 4: Really bad idea. You know, we are not ready for this.
• 50:35
  Speaker 2: You know all the math on the interceptors that's been
• 50:37
  Speaker 2: talked about for months at this point, and yet Trump still.
• 50:42
  Speaker 4: Decided to go ahead.
• 50:44
  Speaker 2: What is the calculus that he was making here that
• 50:47
  Speaker 2: led him to take what you know already appears to
• 50:50
  Speaker 2: be catastrophic actions?
• 50:52
  Speaker 5: Right? Okay, So this is the key question, why do
• 50:55
  Speaker 5: they do this?
• 50:56
  Speaker 9: I think there are three possibilities, okay, and I think
• 50:58
  Speaker 9: all three possibilities are badalid. The first is that of Hubris.
• 51:02
  Speaker 9: If you look at history, this is how empires behave.
• 51:06
  Speaker 9: So the Mendoro kidnapping was quick successful, and it was
• 51:12
  Speaker 9: adrenaline rush for Trump, and that made him overconfident in
• 51:16
  Speaker 9: the capacity of the American military. Okay, So Hubris is
• 51:20
  Speaker 9: a factor, and we see this throughout history. What did
• 51:22
  Speaker 9: Hitler invade Salent because he conquered Europe really easily and
• 51:25
  Speaker 9: he thought it was invincible, right, and that led to
• 51:28
  Speaker 9: the destruction of the German army in the Soviet Union.
• 51:32
  Speaker 5: So Hubris is a factor.
• 51:33
  Speaker 9: Then you have to look at internal political calculus where
• 51:38
  Speaker 9: even though America does not benefit from this war against Iran,
• 51:42
  Speaker 9: Trump himself personally benefits. Why because the Saudis and Israelis
• 51:48
  Speaker 9: are bribing him to attack Iran. Remember that the Saudis
• 51:53
  Speaker 9: invested two billion dollars in the private equity fund of
• 51:56
  Speaker 9: Jared Kushner, who is the son in law of Donald Trump,
• 51:59
  Speaker 9: and through Mariam Aedilson, have been financing Trump's local career. Right,
• 52:04
  Speaker 9: So Mariam Adilson a few months back said that you
• 52:09
  Speaker 9: will put up twenty fifty million dollars if Trump were
• 52:12
  Speaker 9: to run a third term. So Trump is getting a
• 52:15
  Speaker 9: lot of financial and political support from Assades and israel Is. Also,
• 52:19
  Speaker 9: remember that this will if this war goes sideways and
• 52:23
  Speaker 9: Trump is forced to use ground troops, he will probably
• 52:27
  Speaker 9: get approved from Congress and this will give him emergency
• 52:30
  Speaker 9: of war powers which will allow him to uh influence
• 52:34
  Speaker 9: the midterms. So Trump is thinking about a third term,
• 52:38
  Speaker 9: and I think at the bulock box he probably won't
• 52:40
  Speaker 9: get it. But if there's a war going on and
• 52:43
  Speaker 9: you can delay elections, and you have emergency war powers
• 52:47
  Speaker 9: and people rally on the flag, then.
• 52:49
  Speaker 5: He probably he probably will get a third term.
• 52:51
  Speaker 9: And the last factor that is very important is eschatological factor,
• 52:56
  Speaker 9: where if you look at the Epstein fouls, it's clear
• 52:58
  Speaker 9: that we are run by sacred societies. It's clear that
• 53:01
  Speaker 9: the world is run by these individuals who have a
• 53:06
  Speaker 9: lot of power. We don't know who they are, but
• 53:07
  Speaker 9: they control the military, they control the National security opretus,
• 53:12
  Speaker 9: and these people.
• 53:14
  Speaker 5: They're different names for these people.
• 53:16
  Speaker 9: You can home the Illuminati, and the Illuminati are composed
• 53:19
  Speaker 9: of three major groups.
• 53:21
  Speaker 5: Okay.
• 53:21
  Speaker 9: You have the Jesuits who control the Vatican, you have
• 53:23
  Speaker 9: the seventeen Francis, which control the mons Israel today, and
• 53:26
  Speaker 9: you have the Freemasons, which control the National Security appretus
• 53:30
  Speaker 9: of the United States, and they believe that Israel, this
• 53:35
  Speaker 9: one in Middle Ease, is key to the end times
• 53:38
  Speaker 9: in creating heaven on Earth. So it's almost like a
• 53:41
  Speaker 9: script that they're following, even though it doesn't make any
• 53:45
  Speaker 9: tiplical sense. Okay, so I would say that these three
• 53:48
  Speaker 9: are the best reasons why this is happening.
• 53:50
  Speaker 3: Wow, well, sir, I hope you come back. This is
• 53:53
  Speaker 3: very informative, I think for both of us. We deeply
• 53:55
  Speaker 3: appreciate your time.
• 53:56
  Speaker 5: Thank you, thank you.
• 53:58
  Speaker 1: We went a little bit late today.
• 54:00
  Speaker 3: Gonna be doing the A m A tomorrow, so we'll
• 54:01
  Speaker 3: see you all then, Hm,