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- 0:09Coming up on legacy stories. One of the things that he said
- 0:14was a man's got to have a system.
- 0:18You've got to have a system to do anything.
- 0:22So you can't just attack a problem.
- 0:24You have to figure it out and and go at it methodically.
- 0:30That's the matter of engineering.
- 0:55My guest this week is George Davis.
- 0:58Have you ever looked back and realized that someone in your
- 1:01family was teaching you lessons you didn't even know you were
- 1:04learning? George has, and decades later,
- 1:08he can still trace some of the most important lessons of his
- 1:12life back to one special person. Hey George, welcome to Legacy
- 1:21Stories. Thank you, Steve.
- 1:23Good to be here. I'm so glad you're with me,
- 1:25George. And before we talk about who you
- 1:28came to honor today, I'd love for our listeners to know a
- 1:31little bit more about you. All right, Steve, I'd be glad to
- 1:35tell you it might be a little boring, but I'm from Nashville,
- 1:39went to Tennessee State University and HBCU, and I
- 1:43currently live in Los Angeles with my wife of almost 50 years
- 1:49and my children and four grandchildren.
- 1:52So I'm having a ball. Thanks, Greg.
- 1:54Congratulations on that. So I was wondering if you'd like
- 1:57to tell us a little bit about what you do for a living.
- 2:01Sure, OK. When I was at Tennessee State, I
- 2:05got my Bachelor's of Science and Engineering.
- 2:09Decided to go to California to get my first job.
- 2:14While I was there, I met my wife.
- 2:17I retired from engineering in 2002.
- 2:19Since then, my wife and I own a business which provides services
- 2:25to the developmentally disabled population of Southern
- 2:30California. OK.
- 2:32It was quite a paradigm shift going from engineering to this,
- 2:37but it it's been fulfilling and you have to have a special heart
- 2:41for this. My wife, she's been doing this
- 2:43for 40 years and I actually gave up my engineering career to join
- 2:48her with it and we have been able to do that.
- 2:51That is wonderful. Tanya and I have a son, Sam,
- 2:54with autism. Oh, very good.
- 2:56And so I care for people who care for people with special
- 3:00needs. So I am glad that we are having
- 3:03this visit together. Yes, I am too.
- 3:07Well, George, tell me, who have you come to honor today?
- 3:11I have come to honor my grandfather, my paternal
- 3:14grandfather, Fred Russell Davis. His great influence in my life.
- 3:20He had lived with us for the last 11 years.
- 3:25He and I developed a very special bond on a number of
- 3:29different levels that. Is so cool.
- 3:31You know, not everybody gets to have their grandparents live
- 3:34with them toward the end of the grandparents life.
- 3:36So I know there's a story there. But before we tell that story,
- 3:39George, tell us a little bit about what you know about your
- 3:43grandfather's upbringing, his childhood.
- 3:47Right. My grandfather was born in 1888
- 3:50in Knoxville, TN. He was the last of seven
- 3:54children. His mother died when he was four
- 3:57years old. His father remarried shortly
- 4:01after that, but his new wife did not like the idea of having the
- 4:08baby of his previous wife around.
- 4:11So my grandfather was raised by his two oldest sisters until he
- 4:18got into his teenage years and was able to fend for himself.
- 4:23That was about 1910 in Knoxville and there weren't too many
- 4:27opportunities for him. He managed to get a fifth grade
- 4:30education, which was pretty regular for black people of
- 4:36Knoxville, TN and that era. He was a jockey at one point.
- 4:41He was a farm man. He was a a laborer.
- 4:46He did a number of odd jobs, but the the thing that he did that
- 4:52was the most remarkable thing in his life, was that he married
- 4:57above his station. His wife was a school teacher, a
- 5:01few years older than him actually, and they had three
- 5:06sons. My dad was the youngest of the
- 5:08three. All three of them got their
- 5:11college degrees and my dad got his pH DE in 1951.
- 5:16Wow. So my grandmother and
- 5:19grandfather had quite a successful marriage until she
- 5:24died in 1948. He lived by himself until 1966
- 5:30in Knoxville, and at that time urban renewal took his house.
- 5:37So he came and moved in with us at the age of 78.
- 5:41And from 78 until he died at age of 89, I learned so much from
- 5:47him that I really wasn't aware that I was absorbing.
- 5:52And I'm so, so much better of a person and a man for having been
- 5:57influenced by his, by his presence during that time.
- 6:01That is, that is so special. You know, I, I was reflecting on
- 6:05what you said and he came up in a kind of an alternate path then
- 6:10a conventional path being raised by his sisters, for example.
- 6:14And I am wondering, do you think that he was just naturally an
- 6:19independent soul? Because he seems like he was
- 6:22quite self-sufficient. I think so, yes.
- 6:25He didn't require, even when he was living with us at age 78, he
- 6:30did not require a lot of oversight.
- 6:33No one had to ask him to do anything.
- 6:36He did it on his own. He he was quite independent.
- 6:40And that was one of the things that I learned from him while
- 6:44growing up was how to be independent, how you take care
- 6:48of yourself and how you pull your own weight.
- 6:51Well, that's interesting because I was going to ask you
- 6:54specifically, George, when you think back to your childhood,
- 7:01even before your young adulthood, did you have a close
- 7:04relationship with your Grandpa Fred?
- 7:06And do you remember those years as a child around your grandpa?
- 7:11Yes, I do. I can tell you where you lived
- 7:14in Knoxville, Four O 5 Batterson Street, right at the top of the
- 7:19hill overlooking downtown Knoxville.
- 7:22And I remember going up there many times and multiple times a
- 7:26year before he moved in with us and spending much time at his
- 7:31house. His house was modest.
- 7:33It had a wrap around porch, which I loved I bet, but it was
- 7:37just a three room house with a coal furnace, cold stove.
- 7:44That's how he kept his heat. There wasn't much to it, but it
- 7:46was full of love. I had a piano in it.
- 7:50So yes, I do remember the years before he moved in with us as as
- 7:56fondly as I do the years after he got there.
- 8:00Well, when you think of life lessons that a child would
- 8:03remember from a grandpa, can you name any of those?
- 8:10Well, let me think about that. Take your time.
- 8:16My grandfather lived on a pretty narrow St. and it was at the top
- 8:22of a hill. So if you wanted to go anywhere,
- 8:26to the store, to church, to get your hair cut, you had to
- 8:30navigate that hill. And the cars were not as common
- 8:35as they are now. So more often than not you
- 8:38walked it. And I I've thought many times
- 8:42about how much grit it took to have to navigate that hill for
- 8:48days, weeks, months at a time and and ice and bad weather.
- 8:52And because he did not have a car, it was it was walking and
- 8:56and buses for him. So, yeah, I didn't really
- 9:00realize that that I was getting that lesson from him at that
- 9:04time because I was I guess I was nine years old when he moved in
- 9:08with us. Maybe I was 8.
- 9:11So, you know, I was just absorbing things that he that he
- 9:16brought through the table in my in my word.
- 9:18And I would bet you that those things you were absorbing then
- 9:22made manifest when he came to live with you because he could,
- 9:26he could offer those things on a more daily basis.
- 9:30And I'd love to hear kind of your memories of him in the home
- 9:34and some of those life lessons that he might have imparted to
- 9:37you as you were growing up there.
- 9:40Well, one of the jobs, I shouldn't say jobs, but one of
- 9:44the tasks that he gladly took on for himself was to take care of
- 9:50me and my sister. I was, as I said, I was 9.
- 9:54I think Lynn was 6, maybe 7 when he moved in.
- 9:59He was our babysitter. He allowed my mom and my dad to
- 10:04have a life independent of us. And so one of the lessons that I
- 10:11really learned from my grandfather was how not to take
- 10:16on a task all at once. And if it's too big, taking on
- 10:21in chunks. And we had a driveway that went
- 10:24down into the backyard and my sister and I had a whole the
- 10:29time going back up the hill with our bicycles without stopping
- 10:35and pushing our bikes up the hill.
- 10:37And I remember distinctly my grandfather telling me instead
- 10:41of going up the hill straight on, go side to side and
- 10:47switchbacks. It'll be a longer trip, but
- 10:50you'll get up the hill without stopping and I've always
- 10:54remembered that on so many different levels there's.
- 10:58Some truth to that isn't there man.
- 11:02Not me. Don't take it all on at once.
- 11:05One thing that my grandfather said growing up, you used to
- 11:08have all these little Pippy sayings and one applies to me
- 11:13and my career as an engineer. And I didn't realize that he
- 11:18drilled this into me. One of the things that he said
- 11:21was a man's got to have a system.
- 11:25You've got to have a system to do anything.
- 11:29So you can't just attack a problem.
- 11:31You have to figure it out and and go at it methodically.
- 11:37And. That is the that's the matter of
- 11:42engineering. That's fantastic.
- 11:43I mean, that's problem solving. That's yeah, that's a lot of
- 11:47things. Yeah.
- 11:48That is so neat that he was able to impart that.
- 11:51Yeah, he did not let his fifth grade education hold him back
- 11:55from developing his family and his sons.
- 11:59And I think that trait was passed on to my dad, who passed
- 12:03it on to me, and I tried to pass it on to my kids too.
- 12:07It's wonderful. Get your education.
- 12:10Education is something that cannot be taken away from you,
- 12:14and it's a desirable commodity and it's something that you can
- 12:18use your whole life. My father epitomized that really
- 12:22he by getting his PhD. He was the first one obviously
- 12:26in our family to get a PhD to get an advanced degree.
- 12:31I am trying to imagine how proud your grandpa Fred and your
- 12:36grandma must have been of your father when he received his PhD.
- 12:45Well, my grandmother died while my father was in grad school at
- 12:52the University of Pittsburgh, so she did not get to see that day.
- 12:57She died in 48. He got his degree in 51.
- 13:02But she was a part of everything he did.
- 13:05He was very much devoted to his mother.
- 13:09And yeah, my grandfather was, you know, over the moon, I'm
- 13:14sure. Yeah, I'm picturing just, you
- 13:16know, I'm just kind of musing in my mind.
- 13:19Your grandpa telling your dad, your mom is be so proud of you
- 13:24right now. And I of course, I happen to
- 13:28believe that your grandma was looking down quite proud of him
- 13:31at the time. But that is a really beautiful
- 13:33story. And it just speaks to the world
- 13:36of your grandparents that they they instilled that love of
- 13:38education in your parents so. Thank you, Steve.
- 13:42I, I, I want to honor my grandfather any way that I can.
- 13:46My grandfather died in 1977. I wasn't even 20 years old.
- 13:51I was still a teenager and I did not realize at that time the
- 13:58wisdom that he gave to me and, and how he was preparing me to
- 14:02be what I am now, which is a 68 year old man.
- 14:09And, and a lot of the things you know, that I've done between the
- 14:13time that he passed and I was 20.
- 14:16And now when I'm 68, I can draw a tangent right to him and and
- 14:22say that I learned this from him.
- 14:25That's wonderful. You know, one of the things my
- 14:28grandfather used to love to do and did it incessantly, would
- 14:35give praise to God for nearly everything that goes on,
- 14:41everything from plants coming up to the progress of civil rights
- 14:47in the 60s when he was 80 years old and knew where we had come
- 14:52from, how far we had come. And he would always say ape, the
- 14:56good Lord's worst wonderful. Wow.
- 14:59And I appreciate him so much and I'm, I'm so glad that you have
- 15:04given me the opportunity to honor him because he deserves
- 15:10honor in my life, in my particular life and, and, and so
- 15:14many others. Because as I think about it, his
- 15:17progeny go down 4 generations now.
- 15:20And there's so many remarkable people in that 4 generations.
- 15:26It all started with him and he was a rejected, you know, 5 year
- 15:30old. Golly.
- 15:32And pre 20th century Sal, a black kid and he managed to
- 15:40build this somehow or another. It's it's great.
- 15:43Well, George, thank you so much for joining me on Legacy Stories
- 15:47this week and helping us learn more about Grandpa Fred Davis.
- 15:52Thank you Steve for the opportunity.
- 15:53It's been great. And thank you for allowing me to
- 15:57relive his memories and his lessons all.
- 16:01Right. Take care.
- 16:02You too. Thank you for listening.
- 16:08I invite you to visit Legacy Stories dot US, where you'll
- 16:13find photos from George's family collection along with other
- 16:16resources inspired by today's visit.
- 16:20And today, if you'll stay with us just a little longer, George
- 16:24shared one more memory of his grandfather with me, and I
- 16:27wanted you to hear it. So here is Father of the Year,
- 16:35George. I was wondering if you'd like to
- 16:36tell us a little bit about memories of Grandpa and the
- 16:40family going to church. Sure.
- 16:43Well, he came to live with us in 1966 and at that time we were
- 16:49not members of Saint Andrew's Presbyterian Church.
- 16:53We were all members of John Calvin Presbyterian Church and
- 16:58transferred membership over to Saint Andrew's.
- 17:02But once we all went over to Saint Andrews, my grandfather
- 17:06really thrived. He was well respected, and he
- 17:09culminated in him being named the Father of the Year in 1976
- 17:14at that church. Wow.
- 17:17Yeah. He was very proud of that.
- 17:19And we all were just remarkable that he made that much inroads
- 17:24just by presidents alone, really to be named father of the year.
- 17:30And he hung that plaque in his room very proudly.
- 17:33And you know what? I may have done my math wrong,
- 17:36but I believe he got father of the year when he was 88 years
- 17:39old. Correct.
- 17:40That is correct. Yes, Sir, that is correct.
- 17:44That's all we all need to know right there.
- 17:46An 88 year old man was named Father of the Year at Saint
- 17:50Andrew's Presbyterian Church.