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- Lucas: So we talk a lot on this show about how to get into marketing — the skills, the certifications, the portfolio. But there's one route that a lot of people don't fully optimize for, and that's the internship to full time conversion. Luna: Yeah, because an internship is basically a three-month job interview, right? The stakes are high. Lucas: Exactly. And the data backs that up. The National Association of Colleges and Employers — NACE — puts out a survey every year on internship conversion rates. Their 2025 report showed that overall, about fifty-six percent of marketing interns at companies with formal internship programs got a full-time offer. Luna: Okay, fifty-six percent — that's more than half. But what about companies without a formal program? Lucas: That number drops to just twenty-eight percent. So it basically doubles your odds of landing a full-time job just by being at a company that has a structured internship. Luna: So what counts as a 'formal' program? Is it just having a coordinator and a schedule? Lucas: It's more than that. NACE defines it as having several components: a dedicated manager who provides regular feedback, a structured orientation, clearly defined learning objectives, and often a capstone project or presentation at the end. Some companies also have rotational assignments across different teams. Luna: So it's not just about the size of the company. A startup could have a formal program if they set it up right. Lucas: Absolutely. And that's where individual initiative comes in. If you're interning at a company that doesn't have a formal program, you can essentially create your own structure. But before we get to that, let's talk about the single highest-leverage move an intern can make in the first two weeks. Luna: I'm guessing this is the stretch project advice you've mentioned before? Lucas: Exactly. In the first two weeks, ask your manager for one project that's slightly outside your job description — something that would be a win for the team but that no one has had time to do. It signals ambition, it shows you understand the business, and it gives you a tangible accomplishment to point to at the end. Luna: But doesn't that risk overwhelming you? I mean, you're already learning the ropes. Lucas: That's a fair concern. The key is to ask for something manageable — maybe a competitive analysis or a social media audit — that you can complete in a few weeks. Not a full campaign launch. The goal is to demonstrate that you can add value beyond the tasks you were hired to do. Luna: Okay, so what about the feedback piece? How do you make sure you're getting regular feedback if your manager is busy? Lucas: You have to schedule it yourself. In a formal program, feedback is baked in — weekly one-on-ones, mid-point reviews. In an informal setting, you should ask for a fifteen-minute check-in every week. Come with an agenda: what you accomplished, what you're stuck on, what you want to work on next. Luna: That's a good habit for any job, honestly. But let's talk about the capstone presentation — that's a big part of formal programs. If you don't have one, should you create one? Lucas: Yes, a hundred percent. At the end of your internship, ask if you can present your work to the team or even the broader department. Prepare a ten-minute slide deck that shows the problem you worked on, your approach, the results, and what you'd recommend going forward. It makes you memorable. Luna: And it makes you look like a pro. I've seen interns get offers on the spot after a good capstone. Lucas: Exactly. The other thing NACE data shows is that interns who present a final project are about eighteen percent more likely to get an offer than those who don't. So it's not just a nice to have. Luna: Let's talk about timing. When do companies typically make the offer? Is it at the end, or do some decide earlier? Lucas: It varies. Some companies make a decision mid-way through and tell you by week eight. Others wait until the last day. But if you haven't heard anything by week ten, it's appropriate to ask your manager directly: 'I've really enjoyed this experience. Is there a timeline for decisions about full-time roles?'. Luna: That's a scary question to ask, but it's better than waiting in limbo. Lucas: Right. And if the answer is no, or if they say they don't have budget, you've still got time to apply elsewhere. The worst outcome is leaving without knowing and then scrambling after the internship ends. Luna: So what about startups that don't have a formal program? Can you still get a full-time offer from a startup internship? Lucas: Absolutely. But the approach is different. At a startup, you have to be more proactive because there's less structure. The same principles apply — find a stretch project, seek feedback, and do a final presentation — but you also need to be more vocal about your interest in a full-time role. Startups move fast, and they might not think to hire you unless you remind them. Luna: That's a good point. At a startup, you're often working directly with the founder or the marketing lead. So you can have that conversation early. Lucas: Yes. And you can also offer to take on more responsibility as a way to prove you're indispensable. At a larger company, you might be one of fifty interns. At a startup, you might be one of two. That visibility is an advantage. Luna: So what's the one thing you'd tell someone starting an internship tomorrow to maximize their chances? Lucas: Network intentionally. Not just with your team — connect with people in other departments, have coffee chats, learn about their work. When it comes time for hiring decisions, it's not just your manager who has a say. A recommendation from someone in product or sales can tip the scales. Luna: And keep a brag sheet. Write down every win, no matter how small, so you have concrete examples for your performance review or final presentation. Lucas: Exactly. If today was actually useful to you, the way these stay ad-free is listener support. If these marketing conversations have sparked something you've actually used, consider throwing a coffee our way — buy me a coffee dot com slash fexingo. It keeps the episodes coming without any ads. Luna: Yeah, we really appreciate it. And we don't run ads, so it's listener support that keeps this going. Lucas: Alright, back to the topic. One more thing I want to mention about internships: don't underestimate the power of a thank-you note. After your internship, send a personalized note to everyone you worked with closely. It's a small gesture, but it keeps you top of mind. Luna: And it's a good networking move for the future, even if you don't get an offer right now. Lucas: Right. The marketing world is smaller than you think. People remember the interns who were proactive, professional, and appreciative. Luna: So final takeaway: if you want to turn an internship into a full-time job, create your own structure, seek feedback, do a capstone, and network like crazy. Lucas: That's the playbook. Thanks for listening, and we'll see you next time.