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AFC and NFC Championship Weekend Preview · 3 and Out with John Middlekauff

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  Speaker 1: The volume.
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  Speaker 2: What is going on, everybody? How are we doing? I'm
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  Speaker 2: John middle Cough. This is three and Out podcast, and
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  Speaker 2: hopefully you're doing well out there in the real world,
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  Speaker 2: and hopefully you're not in an area that's too cold.
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  Speaker 2: We're having a frigid ice storm or something coming through
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  Speaker 2: certain parts of the country, So stay safe, stay warm,
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  Speaker 2: and let's enjoy football because we only have three games
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  Speaker 2: left to this weekend in the Super Bowl, so buckle up.
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  Speaker 2: We have obviously a lot on the line. So what
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  Speaker 2: I did is, I said, you know what, let's just
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  Speaker 2: do who is the most to gain what's on the line,
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  Speaker 2: And I just listed things and I went in kind
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  Speaker 2: of no particular order, but just things that excite me
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  Speaker 2: about this weekend because in these games any even last week,
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  Speaker 2: but in the second round, in the championship game and
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  Speaker 2: obviously the Super Bowl, are kind of when coaches and
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  Speaker 2: quarterbacks and franchises and general managers really define their career.
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  Speaker 2: So I wanted to look at just what's online for
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  Speaker 2: these guys from a big picture standpoint. And I didn't
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  Speaker 2: go in any particular order, but I just wrote down
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  Speaker 2: a bunch of stuff and just kind of going to
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  Speaker 2: rattle through it. Obviously it's Fugazi Friday. I need to
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  Speaker 2: apologize to something that I said when it came to
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  Speaker 2: a fugazi that turned out to just be something you need.
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  Speaker 2: So we'll dive into that and then Stucky will join
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  Speaker 2: the show. We'll talk about the two games from a
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  Speaker 2: gambling perspective and some other football stuff, but that will
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  Speaker 2: be the show today. A bunch of you guys have
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  Speaker 2: sent me stuff for mail bag questions. We will probably
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  Speaker 2: go heavy mail bag next week with it with it
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  Speaker 2: being the off week, it might just be like four
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  Speaker 2: straight mail bags Tuesday through Friday. Especially my I can
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  Speaker 2: bang out a bunch on one day and just release
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  Speaker 2: them throughout the week, which might allow me to help
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  Speaker 2: my wife a little bit more and try to figure
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  Speaker 2: work in progress. It's not easy, as many of you know,
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  Speaker 2: can find us there and that'll be the show today.
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  Speaker 2: So let's just dive in. I guess let's just start.
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  Speaker 2: The headline is going to be who has the most again?
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  Speaker 2: Because you win this weekend, you're off to the super Bowl.
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  Speaker 2: You have the opportunity to change your life forever, right
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  Speaker 2: you become a super Bowl champ. And the headliners in
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  Speaker 2: this sport are the quarterbacks and the coaches and kind
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  Speaker 2: of the franchises, which include the general manager. So this
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  Speaker 2: is not in any order. I didn't rank it in importance.
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  Speaker 2: I just wrote down the things that fascinate and interest
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  Speaker 2: me the most. There is no disputing that the Denver
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  Speaker 2: Broncos are in an unprecedented situation. We have seen backup
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  Speaker 2: quarterbacks make runs in the playoffs, most famously Nick Foles,
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  Speaker 2: who has a statue with Doug Peterson. But Carson Wentz
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  Speaker 2: got hurt in the regular season. It was in the
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  Speaker 2: game against the Rams. I remember Joe Buck told the
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  Speaker 2: story he was taking a leak and Howie Roseman was
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  Speaker 2: taking a leak next to him, and Looke at him
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  Speaker 2: and said Carson wentz towards ACL. So Nick Foles had
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  Speaker 2: played games. Hell, he had played a playoff game the
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  Speaker 2: week before, so he had had momentum coming in to
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  Speaker 2: this weekend, to the Final four. That is not the
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  Speaker 2: case with Jared Siddam, who hasn't thrown a pass this year,
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  Speaker 2: pretty sure didn't throw a pass last year. Now, this
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  Speaker 2: is a guy who was once drafted in the fourth round,
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  Speaker 2: who clearly Sean Payton has talked about glowingly now for
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  Speaker 2: a long time, multiple years. Josh McDaniels, who we would
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  Speaker 2: all agree not a good head coach, one of the
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  Speaker 2: best offensive coordinators of his generation, loved him. Patriots drafted
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  Speaker 2: Stidham in the fourth round. Then Josh McDaniels, when he
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  Speaker 2: became the head coach of the Raiders, traded for Stidham.
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  Speaker 2: So I'm always a believer in like who believes in you,
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  Speaker 2: who believes in you? And Jared Siddam can say, well,
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  Speaker 2: Josh McDaniels and Sean Payton believe in me. That's that's
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  Speaker 2: pretty impressive. Who is the one backing you? And in football,
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  Speaker 2: it's like the gms and the coaches that believe in you.
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  Speaker 2: In life. It's like, you know, when you're trying to
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  Speaker 2: get a job and you put your references are some
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  Speaker 2: references are better than others, you know, And I would
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  Speaker 2: say this, the two offensive minds I think Jared Stiddam
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  Speaker 2: can play are pretty prominent NFL people. Now, Sean Payton,
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  Speaker 2: if you can win an AFC championship game with the
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  Speaker 2: backup quarterback who did not play all season long and
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  Speaker 2: hasn't thrown a pass since the preseason after losing your
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  Speaker 2: quarterback not in like normal football fashion, like eye breaks
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  Speaker 2: his leg, he leaves in the middle of the game.
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  Speaker 2: We've seen some of those this playoffs, right, Sharvion Nay
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  Speaker 2: just got injured, leaves the game, he's out, kittle terrors's
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  Speaker 2: achilles just out for the game, and you understand it
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  Speaker 2: in the moment, but then the game goes on. You
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  Speaker 2: gotta can people replace him? Bodix has played the whole game. Shit,
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  Speaker 2: he walked off the field. So it's we've never seen
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  Speaker 2: this before. And to me, if Sean Payton can win
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  Speaker 2: a playoff game, an AFC championship game with a backup quarterback,
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  Speaker 2: who is it is? This isn't a backup quarterback who
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  Speaker 2: had been a full time starter somewhere else, an older
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  Speaker 2: player like a Flacco type. But that's not this case.
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  Speaker 2: This is not a former top Tennish pick who had
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  Speaker 2: fallen on hard times like Daniel Jones what he had
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  Speaker 2: become before he got injured, or even what Sam Darnold
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  Speaker 2: has done resurrecting his career. This guy was drafting the
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  Speaker 2: fourth round. Most people have viewed just a backup quarter
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  Speaker 2: You're a third day pick. You're gonna be a backup quarterback,
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  Speaker 2: and there's nothing wrong with that. You can be a
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  Speaker 2: backup quarterback for a long period of time, make a
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  Speaker 2: ton of money. Didn't Chase Daniels make like fifteen million
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  Speaker 2: dollars and through a very small amount of passes. But
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  Speaker 2: if you're able to win this game, I think you
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  Speaker 2: would argue clearly there is no topping beating Peyton Manning
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  Speaker 2: in the Super Bowl for the New Orleans Saints. But
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  Speaker 2: I think this would have to be the second most
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  Speaker 2: important win of his career. It would be something that
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  Speaker 2: would take his status as a coach to a completely
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  Speaker 2: different level. And you know what, in a weird way,
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  Speaker 2: in this offensive explosion of a league, I feel like
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  Speaker 2: Sean Payton and maybe it's because bo Nick's been a
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  Speaker 2: little up and down, doesn't quite get the same credit
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  Speaker 2: as he used to with the New Orleans Saints. It
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  Speaker 2: doesn't feel like he's held in the same regard Coward does.
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  Speaker 2: That's his guy, But like just casual people think of
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  Speaker 2: who we talk about offensive coaching, right, Obviously Andy stole
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  Speaker 2: the show over the last five or six years, but
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  Speaker 2: it's clearly the younger guys when discussing the offensive coaches.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I mean, Kyle McVeigh take way more energy
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  Speaker 2: and we exhaust way more conversation than we do on
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  Speaker 2: Sean Payton. So this would be a moment like pretty
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  Speaker 2: big muscle fletch. Remember me, the guy who was the
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  Speaker 2: offensive wizard, the guy that turned Drew Brees into a
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  Speaker 2: first ballot Hall of Famer, that guy whose offense dominated
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  Speaker 2: for fifteen plus years down in the Bayou, And this
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  Speaker 2: would be a moment that would just never be forgotten
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  Speaker 2: and would just solidify. I mean, Sean Payton's probably gonna
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  Speaker 2: be Hall of Famer no matter what, but this would
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  Speaker 2: be like rubber stamping it. To take Denver to the
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  Speaker 2: Super Bowl and win a game as a big dog
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  Speaker 2: with a backup quarterback that hadn't played would be pretty nuts.
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  Speaker 2: So Sean Payton, to me, can just be like double
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  Speaker 2: middle fingers to everybody and given it to Sean Payton,
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  Speaker 2: he might actually do that speaking of his opponent at coach.
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  Speaker 2: You know, it's weird, like the way it ended in Tennessee.
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  Speaker 2: You can always tell, like where the media is getting
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  Speaker 2: their information. I felt like a lot of people kind
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  Speaker 2: of were like, yeah, you know, he's just a tough
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  Speaker 2: guy to deal with. I kind of understood where Tennessee
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  Speaker 2: was coming. You see. With Genie Buss, I've heard forever
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  Speaker 2: like Geenie Bus, you don't just great person, really nice lady.
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  Speaker 2: I read this article like she would throw all of
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  Speaker 2: her brothers and sisters to great white sharks and not
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  Speaker 2: even think twice. She doesn't give a shit. She's ruthless.
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  Speaker 2: But over the years like, oh, Jennie Buss, a great person,
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  Speaker 2: high character, a great person deal with, she hates her family,
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  Speaker 2: She's ruthless. And I felt like Vrabel at the end,
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  Speaker 2: like I've heard stories. I knew people that worked in
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  Speaker 2: Tennessee the last couple of years that owners of Buffoon
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  Speaker 2: a moron and one thing that his age really well
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  Speaker 2: is Mike Vrabel was right. He deserved to make people
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  Speaker 2: uncomfortable like he did a really good job. Him and
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  Speaker 2: John Robinson built a team. People forget this in Tennessee
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  Speaker 2: because I was. I was texting someone the other day,
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  Speaker 2: I was like, you know, Saala takes this job. I
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  Speaker 2: think the job's terrible. Well, they were winning a bunch
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  Speaker 2: of games not that long ago. In Tennessee. It's like, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: they had Derrick Henry, AJ Brown, Jeffrey Simmons, Taylor Luwan
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  Speaker 2: was one of the best tackles in the league. They
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  Speaker 2: had a Pro Bowl center like they had really Kevin
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  Speaker 2: Byern was a Pro Bowl level guy. They had high
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  Speaker 2: end impact players. Right, this Tennessee job is not that,
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  Speaker 2: And clearly the organization just fell apart the moment Raybel
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  Speaker 2: walked out the door and now you see him in
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  Speaker 2: New England. Which a buddy of mine that's a Bills
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  Speaker 2: fan was like, I don't know if I could sleep
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  Speaker 2: if the Patriots win another Super Bowl. I mean, they
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  Speaker 2: had a two decade dynasty. Even when I hear like,
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  Speaker 2: well they didn't make a Super Bowl or they didn't
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  Speaker 2: win a Super Bowl for ten years, they were always good.
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  Speaker 2: Even in that gap. I mean, shit, they lost a
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  Speaker 2: couple oh seven they literally didn't lose a game till
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  Speaker 2: the Super Bowl and an eleven when they lost to
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  Speaker 2: the Giants again, like they were fucking there. So a
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  Speaker 2: lot of teams like, hey, we haven't won a Super
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  Speaker 2: Bowl in twenty five and haven't been there well, like
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  Speaker 2: they were always in the mix, always in these championship games,
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  Speaker 2: and now they're just back, and it just starts thinking,
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  Speaker 2: are they gonna be dramatically better over the next couple
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  Speaker 2: of years. And Mike Vrabel, you know, it used to
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  Speaker 2: happen a lot. A lot of the guys that were
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  Speaker 2: coaching in the seventies and eighties were former NFL players, right,
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  Speaker 2: and good ones Ditka Dan Reeves, like, these guys played
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  Speaker 2: in the NFL and then just transition right to coaching.
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  Speaker 2: And this was a day and age before guys made
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  Speaker 2: the amount I mean, even money's all relative, but you
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  Speaker 2: weren't making huge cash coaching football in the NFL in
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  Speaker 2: the seventies or the eighties. Right now, you know, Mike
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  Speaker 2: Vrabel's making fifteen plus million dollars a year, so you're
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  Speaker 2: making player money. Hell, he makes more money now coaching
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  Speaker 2: the Patriots than he ever did per year playing, probably
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  Speaker 2: not even close. But you resurrect the Pats. I mean
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  Speaker 2: that's he already has. But I don't care what your
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  Speaker 2: path is. You get to the super Bowl, that's remarkable
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  Speaker 2: and even if you're a dog going into that game,
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  Speaker 2: it would be a pretty incredible accomplishment. And I listen,
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  Speaker 2: is it luck? Is it randomness? Like obviously Robert Craft
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  Speaker 2: once upon a time didn't sign Mike Vrabel as a
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  Speaker 2: free agent like Bill did, so he came to the
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  Speaker 2: team because of Bill. You do get credit though for
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  Speaker 2: hiring Bill. It was pretty I don't know if it
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  Speaker 2: was controversial at the time. I mean it was for
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  Speaker 2: the Jets because he quit and they had a trade
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  Speaker 2: for him. But I don't think teams were lined up
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  Speaker 2: around the block to hire Bill Belichick. So hiring Bill
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  Speaker 2: led them to getting Mike as a coach or as
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  Speaker 2: a player, and that relationship grew, and that's why he's
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  Speaker 2: coaching now because of the relationship with the Craft family
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  Speaker 2: has with Mike. And now Mike's just gonna resurrect the Pats.
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  Speaker 2: And I think it's fair to say, even if he
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  Speaker 2: doesn't win this game, like their team, that's not going away,
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  Speaker 2: you would chalk the Patriots up to be really good
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  Speaker 2: moving forward. So, Mike Vrabel, you get to the super Bowl.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, he once told the busting guys he'd cut
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  Speaker 2: off his cut off his dick to win a super Bowl.
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  Speaker 2: Now he's walked that back a little bit, but he'd
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  Speaker 2: probably cut off a pinky tel, that's for sure. And
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  Speaker 2: he wins the Super Bowl, I think a lot of
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  Speaker 2: people around football would be like, the Patriots just won
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  Speaker 2: a Super Bowl? What are we doing? And this to
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  Speaker 2: me leads to Drake May, like, you win this game
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  Speaker 2: and you're just in the Super Bowl? Is Drake May
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  Speaker 2: just one of the elites? Is Drake May just one
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  Speaker 2: of the Let me see a top five quarterback in
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  Speaker 2: the NFL? Is he a guy that's gonna be a
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  Speaker 2: top five quarterback moving forward? Because if that's the case,
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  Speaker 2: we know Vrabel's a good coach. If they have a
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  Speaker 2: top five to six quarterback, are they going to be
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  Speaker 2: I don't want to say dynasty, but there are they
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  Speaker 2: just going to be a powerhouse And New England fans
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  Speaker 2: be Yep, we're back. Bill's fans would be like, God,
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  Speaker 2: we better get this coach right, So you know, Drake May,
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  Speaker 2: all of a sudden, you win this game. How many
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  Speaker 2: quarterbacks in the history of the league year two been
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  Speaker 2: to a super Bowl? This is pretty short and obviously
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  Speaker 2: it changes the course of your career when that happens.
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  Speaker 2: And if you were to win one, like Dan Marino
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  Speaker 2: got to one, I think it was in year two
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  Speaker 2: in nineteen eighty four. Now they lost to the forty
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  Speaker 2: nine ers, but it clearly took him to superstart him
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  Speaker 2: and he never looked back, not from a winning standpoint,
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  Speaker 2: but of the way he was talked about. And obviously
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  Speaker 2: he deserved it because he's one of the best players
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  Speaker 2: in the league. Russell Wilson right gets the league, wins
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  Speaker 2: the job, and then within a couple of years of
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  Speaker 2: Super Bowl champion and became one of the superstars of
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  Speaker 2: the NFL for a decade plus. So you win one early.
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  Speaker 2: It also, you know Rogers had this. Rogers hasn't been
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  Speaker 2: back to the super Bowl since February of twenty eleven.
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  Speaker 2: But once you check that box, like no one can
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  Speaker 2: put the pressure, he can't win the big one. You
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  Speaker 2: check that one off next to your name, like everyone
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  Speaker 2: kind of leaves you alone. So Drake May wins this
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  Speaker 2: think of all the guys that he's compared to. It's
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  Speaker 2: not even just his draft class. Caleb and and Jayden Daniels,
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  Speaker 2: which Jaden is a rookie, had playoff success. Caleb this
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  Speaker 2: year had playoff success. You win the super Bowl. Hell,
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  Speaker 2: you get to the super Bowl. That's that's mean. Josh Allen,
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  Speaker 2: I mean we're talking. He's gonna be in year nine.
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  Speaker 2: Still hasn't got there. So it's very difficult to do.
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  Speaker 2: Even if you tell me whether their path kind of broke, Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: you can give me all the you know, lines and
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  Speaker 2: angles you want. It's result oriented business. And if he's
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  Speaker 2: taking the first snap in Santa Clara here in a
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  Speaker 2: couple of weeks, like, no one's really gonna be able
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  Speaker 2: to say shit, I do. I do. Think to the
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  Speaker 2: Sean Payton thing with Jared Stidham. I think Sean would
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  Speaker 2: get the most credit right because of his game plan,
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  Speaker 2: because of his leadership. Maybe they run some trick plays,
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  Speaker 2: maybe they run a fake field goal or fake punt,
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  Speaker 2: or just do something like he's been liable to do
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  Speaker 2: something like that over the course of his career. But
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  Speaker 2: like Jared Stidham would be a guy that would kind
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  Speaker 2: of be remembered for a long time. It's like, remember
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  Speaker 2: when Jared Stidham just came out of nowhere because bow
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  Speaker 2: Knicks broke his ankle and won the AFC Championship game.
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  Speaker 2: He would just be one of those people considered in
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  Speaker 2: this weird bucket right now. If you were to win
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  Speaker 2: the championship, he would kind of elevate himself into this
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  Speaker 2: rare air of I don't even know how you what
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  Speaker 2: you'd comp them to. You wouldn't comprom to Trent Dill
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  Speaker 2: for Brad Johnson because those guys played the entire year.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe you would there would be some similarities to Nick
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  Speaker 2: Foles because you're like, well, they're definitely gonna go back
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  Speaker 2: to bow Knicks. Now. Could Jared Stidham who is I
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  Speaker 2: think he signed a one year contract this year? Could
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  Speaker 2: he Could he be a free agent? Like, would people
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  Speaker 2: sign him if he has big moments? Could he get
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  Speaker 2: more money on the open market? Would people sign him
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  Speaker 2: to be like a bridge quarterback? But all that stuff
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  Speaker 2: is secondary to you kind of could just gain legendary status.
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  Speaker 2: Remember when Jared Stidham won the AFC Championship Game. I
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  Speaker 2: think it's safe to say no one would have saw
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• 17:57
  Speaker 2: fascinate me about the NFC Championship game, Let's start on
• 18:01
  Speaker 2: the lower rim. Mike McDonald. If he was an offensive coach,
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: we would be speaking about him like McVeigh on steroids.
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: We really would. But he's a defensive guy. And the
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: other part about Mike he's not that he's pretty understated.
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: He doesn't come off as cocky. He doesn't part of
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: Ben Johnson kind of ruffles some feathers, talk some shit.
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: He always looks angry. He's always just fucking on edge.
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: I mean, he just looks like he hasn't slept much,
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: doesn't eat much besides some protein and some peptide shots,
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: maybe pops like sixty millis of adderall. He just looks
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: like he's Mike McDonald just seems like a buttoned up,
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: well put together guy who really likes football, just a
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: good football coach. Honestly, I know nothing about him as
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: a human being. Seems like he's just a high character,
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: normal guy. Could be wrong. I mean, you gotta be
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: careful about just judging people. But I just feel Mike
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: McDonald in this weird way for being this great coach,
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: feels as normal of like Mike Sean Payton is nuts,
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: Mike Rabel is batshit crazy, Same thing with Sean McVay.
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: Like I feel like they don't even know that much
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: about Mike Donald. Does he go to bed early? Like
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: what's his coaching style? I saw his pregame or his
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: speech to the team a couple of years ago when
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: he got hired, felt pretty normal. U The Seattle did
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: a pretty good job of cutting it up with some music,
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: but doesn't even feel like he's a yeller and a screamer.
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: He clearly is really smart and there is somewhat of
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: a comeback for these defensive coaches, and he's leading the
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: charge because Rabel is truly like obviously he knows football right.
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: He's a very very intelligent football guy. In terms of schematics.
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: No one talks about Mike like, I don't really know
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: how much scheming though he knows clearly. Mike McDonald's notice
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: is like a genius, like a defensive wizard, which pretty rare.
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: A lot of those guys, you know, beside Belichick, most
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: of the guys having this success were either the CEO types,
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: like true ceo types not dealing with either side of
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: the ball, or the offensive guys. And now you're just
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: having this true defensive guru who's also a head coach
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: lead the Seattle Seahawks to the Super Bowl. And if
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: you think about it, John Schneider would get a ton
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: of credit because he hired him. He would also accomplish
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: the Howie Roseman to make it to multiple Super Bowls
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: with two different coaches and two different quarterbacks. Think how impressive.
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: That is like, if the Rams win less, sneed will
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: go to his third Super Bowl since whatever year that is,
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: twenty seventeen, but it's been with the same coach. They've
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: had two different quarterbacks, but it's been with the same coach.
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: I was looking like, how many gms have made it
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: to multiple Super Bowls with different coaches and quarterbacks. Bill
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: Pollion was the GM of the Bills in the nineties
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: when they were going to a bunch of Super Bowls,
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: and then he was the GM of the Indianapolis Colts
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: with Peyton Manning. So he's one guy that would check
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: that box. But even he couldn't say, how we can
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: I've won the Super Bowl with Doug Peterson, Nick Foles,
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: Nick Sirianni, Jalen Hurts, and John Schneider would be able
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: to say Pete Carroll, Russell Wilson, Mike McDonald, Sam Darnold.
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: That would be an incredible accomplishment and he would be
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: I already think he is, but he would be a
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: one hundred percent lock Hall of Fame general manager and
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: would go down as one of, if not the best
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: general manager of his generation. So you know he's not
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: going anywhere. It's not even like he's an old guy,
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: this combination of Mike and John Schneider and now Sam Donold,
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: who's kind of in a weird way, like they're Jimmy Garoppolo.
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: You know, he's a better version, but like that's kind
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: of the role that they just need him to play.
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: They're they're not asking for him to play like Josh
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: Allen or Patrick mahomes Lamar Jackson. I don't need you
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: to carry us. I need you to play under control
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: and do the opposite of what CJ. Stroud did. And
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: if he's able to do that, I think there's a
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: pretty good chance they win the super Bowl, which would
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: be insane. They were a five to one. Their odds
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: were plus five hundred to win their own division start
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: the year, which I thought were crazy. I mean, they
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: just won ten games the year before, but the forty
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: nine ers in the RAMS were basically both I mean
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: close to one to one to win the division and Seattle, Like,
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: I think it's crazy. It's weird to say it now
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: because we watched him play how well they've operated, but
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: like most people did not view this team as a
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: super Bowl contender when the year started, and that sounds crazy.
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: Now and then on the RAMS, I think you have
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: to ask yourself, if Matt Stafford wins these next two games,
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: one he would he'd be a Law Hall of Famer
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: at that point, two super Bowls, he would have one
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: of the crazier careers of all time, because most people,
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: probably a little unfairly, don't take his Lions career that
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: seriously because he did a bunch of losing even though
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: he was with an absolute clown organization like what are
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: the worst organizations in all of professional sports, which again
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: to someone young, sounds a little crazier. Now it's like, well,
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: this Dan Campbell's success version that they've had where they
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: just went nine to eight and it feels like a disaster.
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: Nine and eight ten years ago with the Lions would
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: have been a massive, massive win, even though they only
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: played sixteen games, so the number would have been eight
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: to eight. But you know what I mean, And I
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: just think Matt Stafford got to a real team with
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: a real coach and a real structure and started to
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: kick ass and take names. He's probably gonna win the MVP,
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: and if he won the Super Bowl, have two rings
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: in like less than five years. I think you would
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: ask yourself, Like, would he retire? I googled today he's
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: made over four hundred million dollars in his career. That's
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: only by teams. He's been pretty marketable since he's been
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: with the Rams, so he's made a ton off the
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: field as well. Like he has made a boatload of
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: money at this age in his late thirties. He's on
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: a one year contract. Like what else would he have
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: to prove? This would really validate everything, Not that anyone
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: questioned when they made the trade. But and Jared Goffs
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: worked out pretty well for the Lions as well. But
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: you wouldn't even be able to argue who won that
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: bad boy. Now you could make the argument that the
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: moment the Rams won the Super Bowl, they one locked
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: it up. But like the Lions have been a consistent
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: playoff team. Last year they were the one seed. The
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: previous year they were in the NFC Championship Game. But
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: you win two Super Bowls. I have to wonder if
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: Matt Stafford would seriously contemplate retiring. He's had back issues.
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: I mean, he's just taking a lot of hits in
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: his career. He's obviously got a young family. He just
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: watched his boy, Clayton Kershaw kind of go out on top.
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: You have to wonder if that would factor in, which
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: then would be obviously something we would talk about this offseasons,
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: like well, who would be Would the Rams do a
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: quarterback that is a problem they would gladly try to
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: in a couple weeks if they win the Super Bowl.
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: If you, Sean McVeigh right now, would gladly sign up
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: two more wins Stafford retires, then Stafford returns and you
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: lose this week and last. But about Lee, Sean McVay,
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: he would join pretty rare company of guys with multiple
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: super Bowl rings. I look today, he turns forty in
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: a couple days. If he just makes the Super Bowl,
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: he will have made three super Bowls at forty years old.
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: Think how crazy that would be? Three super Bowls. I
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: mean technically, as I'm recording this, he's thirty nine years old.
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: Just having the opportunity to get back at thirty nine
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: years old, to have this much success. I think early
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: on people push back, like everyone's blowing McVeigh talking about
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: John Harbaugh, who just got five years, one hundred million dollars,
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: won a Super Bowl almost fifteen years ago, has not
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: been back to one, right. We just saw him in
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: the AFC Championship Game a couple of years at home
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: lose with the MVP at quarterback. So and we all agree,
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: like John Harbaugh is a really good coach. That's a
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: great hire for the Giants. Sean McVay is gonna go
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: to three before John Harbaugh is sixty three years old.
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: I mean, think of he would be in a little
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: bit of a situation and these TV networks, Amazon would
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: kick herbit Street to the heart of the sidewalk in
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: a heartbeat to get Sean McVay. Sean McVay would get
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: to the point where he'd have so much money, so
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: much success, Like what's he doing this all for? He's
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: just gonna try to win like four now. And if
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: Stafford retired, could McVeigh just be like, I'm gonna take
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: a couple of years off. Maybe I'll even come back
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: to the Rams, but I need to take a breather,
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: you know. And I think Sean McVay could join a list.
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: You know, clearly, Andy, these last couple of years, multiple
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: time Super Bowl winner Belichick's the most famous has the
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: six You know, when I was a kid in the nineties,
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: everyone talked about Bill Walsh and Bill Parcells parcels one two,
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: Walsh one three. Seaford technically won two more even though
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: most people like give Bill Walsh Moore the credit. Like
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: people talk about Bill Walsh like he won the four.
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: But Seaford, you know, he retired in eighty eight, which
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: I think he regretted obviously. Mike Shanahan became, you know,
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: a legendary figure in the Lway career when they went
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: back to back. We've had a lot of really good coaches,
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: I mean legends, Harbaugh, Tomlin, like guys that won Super
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: Bowl changes the course of your life, changes the course
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: of the way. We discussed you right, Look, Bruce Arians
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: won the won the Corona Super Bowl, and we speak
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: about Brady and Bruce Arians and Tampa Bay winning that
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: Super Bowl. So Sean McVay would have two. It would
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: be And listen, sucky and I discussed this. Whoever wins
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: this game, depending on who their opponent is, is a
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: big favorite in the Super Bowl. And if Jared Stidham
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: is able to put this off, they would be a
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: massive favorite in the Super Bowl. So like Sean McVay,
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: whoever can get through this, But specifically McVeigh. People are
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: gonna be picking him to win his second and unlike Stafford,
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: like Stafford's career is really in two parts. It's like
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: the Lion's part where he was making a ton of money.
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: Guys like Rogers were trying and like pro scouts like
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: I'm telling you, this guy's really good, and all fans
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: were like, wait, he loses all the time. He throws
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: a bunch of interceptions. Rogers like, I'm telling you, he's
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: ever been as good as me. He just plays for
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: the shitty team. Never forget Aaron Rodgers was the one
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: guy who was always pounding the table for Matt Stafford
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: throughout the twenty tens, and then McVeigh and Shanahan fought
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: over trading for him, and McVeigh got him and clearly
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: changed the course of his life. Now, could McVeigh have
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: pulled one off with Goff, Maybe, but at the time
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: of their relationship it was so fractured that they had
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: to go the other way no matter what. But I
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: think that we've just never seen anything quite like this
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: young for pat Riley winning with the Lakers. But pretty sure,
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: you know, I don't think pat Riley was this young
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: you know, had won those NBA championships before he was forty,
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: so you do something like that at this age. There's
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: a reason when you see these interviews like who are
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: they interviewing? How old is this guy? People want the
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: next this And here's the reality. There's usually one Bezos,
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: there's usually one Elon, there's usually one Tiger. There's like
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: one Sean McVay. They're not growing on trees, they don't.
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: He's a pretty unique individual and there'd be no disputing
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: it if he not just wins this game on the
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: road in Seattle would be one of the biggest wins
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: of his career. But then at that game at Levi's,
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: being able to win his second Super Bowl at the
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: home of his former mentor how Shanahan, who obviously arrival,
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: would be a pretty big moment for the guys. I mean, honestly,
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: Seattle or the Rams winning that game at Levi's would
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: sting a little bit to Kyle Well, but yeah, he'd
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: have two, kylet have none, So it'd be hard to discuss,
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: Like when we're discussing the top young offensive coaches that
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: there would be Sean mcnerny or Sean McVay. Would kind
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: of be on a level by himself. I mean, shit,
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: he'd be one behind Andy Reid think about that. So
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: it's gonna be fascinating to watch. I'm I'm really excited
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: because we only got sixty one. We only got one
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: hundred and eighty minutes left of football. One hundred and
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: eighty minutes left the football and they say anywhere between
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: like eleven to twelve minutes of actual game time, So
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: you're talking under forty minutes left of actual action on
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: the field. So we got to enjoy it before we
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: dive into sucky. Though. I do want to hit on
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: a couple of fugazi's and I was adamant when we
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: were building the the baby's room and loading it with clothes.
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: I just thought we were on drugs. I said, in
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: what world can a baby who's still in your belly
• 30:59
  Speaker 2: have this many clothes? Honestly, you could have made the
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: argument if we went clothes for clothes, like piece of
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: individual clothing, he might have had more than me. And
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: I don't even obviously wear that many clothes. I have
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: the majority of my wardrobe never gets put on, especially
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: like sports coats and hell, I don't even wear jeans
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: that often. But I was wrong because anyone listening to
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: this with the newborn baby or have gone through that stage,
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: they go through ten to twelve pieces of clothing. I
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: mean they are pissing and shitting all over themselves at
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: every hour, starting in the morning, through the afternoon, through
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: dinnertime through the night. You are constantly just taking clothes,
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: throwing it on the ground, grabbing a new piece of
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: fresh clothing with a diaper, and redressing your baby. And
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: there is shit and piss everywhere, and what's weird. My
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: wife used to always make fun of me because I
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: would never hold other people's babies. In full disclosure, I
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: was always a little nervous one. I didn't want the
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: pressure if I dropped the or whatever, and then you
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: start holding your own baby. I actually took the the mindset.
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: It's like golfers deal. I'm not gonna play Augusta until
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: I make the Masters. Now I would gladly. I'd play
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: Augusta if anyone listening this as a member there and
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: wants to take me in the h when it's open,
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: I am more than game. But it just kind of happened.
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: The first baby I truly held, not that I didn't
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: hold little kids. I have nephews, and my cousins have kids,
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: and my friends have kids, but like truly just constantly
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: holding a baby, and you just realize, like how am
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: I gonna do this? The diapers, the changing, the wiping,
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: it becomes second nature. You start being like a pit
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: crew on f one or Nascar like bo. But it's
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: just the constant clothing. So I was wrong. The amount
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: of clothes that feel, especially to a guy, a little outrageous,
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: is probably not because you are going to fire through
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: the inventory and that little kid is going to dominate
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: and I repeat dominate the washer and dryer. You're kind
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: of whatever your rotation was to wash your gym clothes,
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: your normal clothes. Get in line, buddy, because you're gonna
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: have no shot. You were gonna be waiting in line,
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: and then whenever you think it's your turn, he's gonna
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: have more stuff going there or she. So I was
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: wrong about that. You need a lot of clothes, you
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: really do. And you go through diapers. No clue how
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: much a bag of diapers costs, but you go through
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: a lot. They are just getting worked. I mean dominated
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: that kid can blow out a diaper like any kid
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: just on repeat, which is good. You find out from
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: the doctor. You know, you gotta get those bowel movements
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: you get. You gotta get that, you know, the the
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: bad stuff working in and out, and he is. So
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: it's a good problem to have. And the other thing
• 34:01
  Speaker 2: is I am a big believer, and I tell people this, like,
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: I'm not one of those guys who can work fresh
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: on three or four hours of sleep. Like I do
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: need sleep. And there are some people that you know
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: don't need much sleep and can operate a high level.
• 34:15
  Speaker 2: We all know him, right, Some people can wake up
• 34:17
  Speaker 2: at the crack of dawn. I remember a buddy of
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: mine who worked on Gruden staff. I was like, what
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: time does he actually get to the office. So I
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: it's true, he's there, you know, before five am. They're like,
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: but his secret is he ain't burning the midnight oil.
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: He's out of there an hour after dinner, which makes sense.
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: You can't start work at three forty five and be
• 34:37
  Speaker 2: kicking ass at nine o'clock at night. You start, you
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: start dipping. He's like, he's out of there, right. So
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: some people we all work different schedules, but there are
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: times when we just don't have a choice, right, and
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: I've been someone who's been a pretty consistent sleep routine.
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: As I've gotten old, especially in my thirties, is life.
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: You get a little more serious about life. You're not
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: screwing around during the week, You're not just up randomly
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: for no reason. You got you know, your career starts
• 35:06
  Speaker 2: being at a different level. You gotta focus up. I'm
• 35:09
  Speaker 2: in bed between nine thirty and ten and usually out
• 35:13
  Speaker 2: between ten and ten thirty and up, depending on what
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: time I go to bed, sometime between five forty five
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: to six thirty range, despite sometimes during the season when
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: we're working late, me sleeping a little bit longer. But
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: my routine's been bang bang bang bang. I'm a routine guy.
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: I thrive in routine. I hate the unknown, the outer routine. Well,
• 35:35
  Speaker 2: when we went to meet this pediatrician, he's like, one
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: piece of advice I will give you is you kind
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: of gotta let go. You have to embrace whatever your
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: routine is. You're gonna have to work around it because
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: the baby has no routine. And the one thing you
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: realize is, like, my sleep's all over the place. Last night,
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: I was reading that Laker article at two thirty in
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: the morning in bed wide awake and and get up
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: at eight o'clock and you're fine because you don't have
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: a choice. You have to be And watching my wife
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: get up at four am to feed them and then
• 36:07
  Speaker 2: not really go back to bed and back out of
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: bed at seven, it's like you just kind of power through.
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: And a lot of people have said, like, listen, this
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: too shall pass, and you'll get through it, and you'll
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: smile about this. And the first couple of days, I
• 36:19
  Speaker 2: was pissed off and like, this fucking sucks. I need
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: some sleep. My head's not there, And you kind of
• 36:24
  Speaker 2: realize part of any situation is where you put yourself mentally,
• 36:29
  Speaker 2: like you just gotta embrace it. Just embrace it. Obviously,
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: there are times when you get frustrated when you just
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: change a diaper and you're ready to set them down.
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: It's midnight and you think, hey, we're gonna go to bed.
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: Then all of a sudden, you hear just a massive
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: fart that's wet, and you're like, oh my god, it's
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: all over the clothes. You gotta rechange it, and when
• 36:48
  Speaker 2: you wipe me start screaming. I've just kind of embraced it,
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: And the last couple of days have been much better
• 36:56
  Speaker 2: because you're not gonna sleep that much. But guess what
• 36:59
  Speaker 2: a lot of people in a situation when they're not
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: sleeping that much, if you're bitter about it and angry,
• 37:03
  Speaker 2: it's gonna suck. And uh again, I'm five days in
• 37:06
  Speaker 2: or six days in what was the other's last If
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: you told me this last another six months, you're gonna
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: you're gonna mentally break. And sometimes you gotta give yourself
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: little patience, little grace. You're allowed to be angry, but
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: like you also gotta be careful because you can't just
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: be pissed off when you're changing the diaper, because the
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: kid feels you're you're kind of energy. So it's it's
• 37:25
  Speaker 2: really just trying to embrace team no sleep, put a
• 37:27
  Speaker 2: smile on your face, and uh, just be a helping hand.
• 37:31
  Speaker 2: So my fugazi was realizing that I was actually wrong
• 37:35
  Speaker 2: about the fugazi because however many clothes that you think
• 37:39
  Speaker 2: are extra, you probably need more. Let's dive in a
• 37:42
  Speaker 2: stucky Okay, we're coming down the home stretch here. It
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: is uh or sweet to stay the least and pretty
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: sad to be honest with you when you just look
• 38:03
  Speaker 2: up and you realize you only have three football games left.
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: I was already kind of watching like the Dubai Desert
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: Classic this morning, just trying to like realizing there's not
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: going to be much to watch moving forward. I already
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: miss thinking about no Monday night football. You can hate
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: on Thursday Night football, but when it's gone, you just
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: start clicking the channels and you're like, what am I
• 38:24
  Speaker 2: supposed to do? I actually watched a decent college basketball
• 38:28
  Speaker 2: stucky last time. I mean Arizona cheez. I mean, they
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: look like an NBA team right now, just dominating people.
• 38:35
  Speaker 2: Lebron's kid can't even get on the floor because they're
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: so good. But we got a couple of games. We're
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: both fathers, we're not sleeping much, and we just power
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: through three to go.
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah, It's it's kind of sad goes by so quick
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: every year. I just hope we'll talk about this game.
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: I actually did bet some early Denver five and a
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: half nines come down a little bit. I am hoping
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: number one for my bet to win, but number two,
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: I'm hoping for the Patriots to win by three because
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: I just, first of all selfishly and for you too.
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: We're gonna we talk about the Super Bowl for two weeks.
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: One game, and if it has to be like Jared
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: Stidham versus the Rams or Seahawks, it's way less intriguing.
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: And I think the look adlines just from a competitive standpoint,
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: way less of a chance that we get a competitive game.
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: I think the look adlines are like the I think
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: I saw the Rams where the Seahawks are like eight
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: and a half minus eight and a half against the
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: Broncos three and a half versus the Patriot. So yeah,
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: I hope that the Patriots win a very close game
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: is my desire there. But the Ramseyhawks Part three should
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: be a doozy. I mean those teams like twice this
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: year separated by one yard in one point.
• 40:24
  Speaker 2: Well, let's rewind to last week, and I think if
• 40:26
  Speaker 2: you go into that locker room and all those guys
• 40:28
  Speaker 2: crying because let's face it, of New England Denver, clearly
• 40:34
  Speaker 2: Houston had no shot the way CJ was playing. But Buffalo,
• 40:38
  Speaker 2: Buffalo would have been the one team that probably a
• 40:41
  Speaker 2: lot of people would have picked right if they would
• 40:43
  Speaker 2: have got to this game and got to the Super Bowl.
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: Sean McDermott gets fired the situation in that game with
• 40:50
  Speaker 2: you know some of the calls. Obviously, Josh's play was
• 40:52
  Speaker 2: all over the map, kind of a little end of
• 40:56
  Speaker 2: a little era, and they're kind of hoping to do
• 40:58
  Speaker 2: the Tony dungee to Gruden. I mean, we've seen this
• 41:02
  Speaker 2: handoff before, but we've also seen it gone the other way.
• 41:06
  Speaker 2: So I mean this is and the Ravens are in
• 41:09
  Speaker 2: a similar situation. Though, you know, you watch the two
• 41:13
  Speaker 2: press conferences. Steve Bushotty just got up and talked like
• 41:16
  Speaker 2: he can handle himself right, whether you agree or disagree
• 41:19
  Speaker 2: with what he's saying, he ain't afraid to let the
• 41:21
  Speaker 2: bullets start flying at him. The I mean, Terry Pegoula,
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: I don't follow hockey, but it turns out that the
• 41:28
  Speaker 2: Buffalo Sabers, besides the Jets, have the longest running playoff drought.
• 41:33
  Speaker 2: I know the man got rich off oil, but you know,
• 41:36
  Speaker 2: in that business, especially back in the day, it took balls,
• 41:40
  Speaker 2: you know, more than I think, being like Elon developing
• 41:44
  Speaker 2: some of these companies, and Poogola's got balls, created his
• 41:46
  Speaker 2: own company, made a bunch of money. But you watch
• 41:49
  Speaker 2: them in front of a microphone. You went, this organization's
• 41:53
  Speaker 2: picking Josh Rosen instead of Josh Allen. Away from being
• 41:55
  Speaker 2: the Jets, I mean that they are. I mean this
• 41:58
  Speaker 2: notion that they're like the the Ravens with ownership. I
• 42:02
  Speaker 2: don't know. I mean I watched that. It's like kind
• 42:05
  Speaker 2: of felt for Josh. Is this guy? What was your
• 42:08
  Speaker 2: take on that situation?
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, first I will say, I mean Alan
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: deserves some criticism for that game. He you know, turn
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: was sloppy, didn't play his best game. But if you
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: look at Alan's body of work in the playoffs, he's
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: been one of the best playoff quarterbacks of all time.
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: If you just look statistically and including this game, almost
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: every single one of his playoff losses, it's the defense
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: that let let him down. And I mean, if you
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: just go back and look at the Bill's playoff losses
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: under Allen, they're consistently scoring in the thirties and they're
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: losing these games because of their defense. Additionally, coaching and
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: like decisions McDermott. You can go back to that thirteen
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: seconds and how they handled that with the kickoff, the
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: Kelsey up the up the seam, and then this game
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: at the end of the half. I don't know what
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: they were trying to do with Alan, like no timeouts.
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: There was just no upside there, Like the time was
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: going to run out and he fumbles, Denver gets a
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: fuel goal. That's the death. How the game could play
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: out differently, but that ended up being ultimately difference in
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: the game, a game that went to overtime. That those
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: three points, it's massive. So I do think that there
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: had just after all of these postseason failures, there had
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: to be a scapegoat. I think McDermott he he has
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: his fass as a head coach, but I think he'd
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: be an outstanding defensive coordinator so he can still scheme
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: up defense and different looks. But being I think is
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: getting off like Scott Free here. It's not like this
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: roster has been built optimally, so there's there's been flaws
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: on how they've built it, the help that they've given Alan,
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: So I'm curious to see where it goes. But there
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: had to be a fall guy. It's there is just
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: and the disappointment. I'm like the disappointment that must be
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: felt by the Bills, and that's you could see it
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: right after with Allen's tears and the comments from Dawkins
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: and company. You know, Bosa throwing his helmet and look,
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: the Patriots is just a tough life to your Patriots fan.
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: Think about them, like, they were the most successful team
• 44:38
  Speaker 1: in the NFL for two decades, winning all these Super Bowls.
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: They have to rebuild, and then they're rebuilding and then
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: the dumps while the AFC is just dominated by Mahomes.
• 44:52
  Speaker 1: And then also you have Lamar and Alan the first
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: time they're back relevant with the easiest scheduled NFL history,
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: get the NFC Championship Game and only have to go
• 45:01
  Speaker 1: through Jared Stidham.
• 45:04
  Speaker 2: So can you can you imagine being a Bills fan
• 45:07
  Speaker 2: if the Patriots do take care of business and they're
• 45:09
  Speaker 2: just back in the Super Bowl. I mean, that would
• 45:12
  Speaker 2: be tough. I had a diehard Bills fan text me
• 45:15
  Speaker 2: if the Patriots were to win the Super Bowl would
• 45:17
  Speaker 2: truly cripple me, And I was like, I get it
• 45:20
  Speaker 2: because it would be like, how is this fair? Because
• 45:24
  Speaker 2: I just think I would imagine Buffalo had to view
• 45:28
  Speaker 2: Jacksonville once they won that game. I mean, they might
• 45:30
  Speaker 2: have thought Jacksonville is the best team in the dance yeah,
• 45:32
  Speaker 2: you know, and then they beat them and they go
• 45:35
  Speaker 2: it's on we can go beat bo Knicks and then
• 45:37
  Speaker 2: take our chances, especially if we get New England, right,
• 45:40
  Speaker 2: I mean, we're comfortable playing them, and now we're at home,
• 45:43
  Speaker 2: we don't have a coach or our franchise feels and shambles.
• 45:48
  Speaker 2: It's a crazy turn of events and that's I think
• 45:52
  Speaker 2: the cool part about the playoffs is what's on the line,
• 45:56
  Speaker 2: and from good and bad, right, I mean, it's CJ. Stroud.
• 45:59
  Speaker 2: It's hard to even think about him the same, right,
• 46:02
  Speaker 2: And I think it's fair. It'saw Orlovsky apologize to day
• 46:07
  Speaker 2: for saying thirty one other quarterbacks would have won that.
• 46:09
  Speaker 2: It's like, what what are we doing apologizing for? That's
• 46:12
  Speaker 2: legitimately one of the worst habs of football you will
• 46:14
  Speaker 2: ever see an NFL history, the majority of our lives eighties,
• 46:18
  Speaker 2: ninety two thousands, he would get benched if he would
• 46:22
  Speaker 2: have been five x the player that he already won.
• 46:25
  Speaker 2: I mean, that's just this is football. People get benched
• 46:28
  Speaker 2: other positions. You don't even hesitate, right the quarterback and
• 46:32
  Speaker 2: he's not good enough to be treated like that. And
• 46:34
  Speaker 2: there's no disputing he lost them in the game because
• 46:37
  Speaker 2: their defense he would throw a pick and their defense
• 46:40
  Speaker 2: would come on and Will Anderson and Daniel Hunter would
• 46:43
  Speaker 2: look like the two best pass rushers you've ever seen.
• 46:45
  Speaker 2: It's like, these guys got to be like, what is
• 46:47
  Speaker 2: going on? Guys just go three and out to stop
• 46:50
  Speaker 2: handing them the football. It's Houston's defense truly was incredible.
• 46:55
  Speaker 2: And I'm pretty sure Daneil Hunter's out free agent, so
• 46:57
  Speaker 2: who knows. I mean, I mean some people lined up
• 47:00
  Speaker 2: to get his surfaces. He's no guaranteed to come back.
• 47:03
  Speaker 1: And who knows what happens with Stroud now? But yeah,
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: I mean with the way that he was playing, you
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: had to try something. I mean, there it was, you
• 47:12
  Speaker 1: could tell it was over and then he had no
• 47:14
  Speaker 1: confidence and they and it's a shame because the tech
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: like the Texans have to look at this as a
• 47:20
  Speaker 1: lost opportunity because the state of the AFC, right, like,
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: and who's who's left? And now you see what happened
• 47:26
  Speaker 1: with Denver and yeah, the Texans had a two thousand type,
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: two thousand Ravens type of defense, right and then if
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: you look at this. The other thing is if you
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: look at the AFC quarterbacks, the quarterbacks that have won
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: the AFC Championship since two thousand, it is basically Peyton, Manning, Ben, Roethlisberger,
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: Mahomes and Brady and the Flacco and Burrow in there.
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: And then back in two thousand you had Dilfer and
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: obviously it was a different, different error, but diffult Dilford
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: just don't make mistakes. That's like what the Ravens asked
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: him to do with their defense. And if Shroud just
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: didn't make mistakes and manage the game, they could have
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: easily won the AFC. So they have to feel it
• 48:25
  Speaker 1: was a lost opportunity and where do they go from here?
• 48:29
  Speaker 1: What happens with Stroud? Like it feels like that rookie
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: year was a very long time ago from the last
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: time we saw Stroud consistently playing at a high level.
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: So yeah, there's there's a lot of and the AFC
• 48:45
  Speaker 1: was just down overall this year for a lot of teams.
• 48:49
  Speaker 2: And this is.
• 48:52
  Speaker 1: Across the board in the NFL, there's a lot of
• 48:54
  Speaker 1: like look in the mirror moments and all right, where
• 48:57
  Speaker 1: we need to change, I mean think about it could
• 48:59
  Speaker 1: be even across the NFL. The only division without a
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: coaching change is the NFC North. Ah, that's it. There's
• 49:08
  Speaker 1: so and they have. There's some coordinator changes, but from
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: a head coaching perspective, that's it. There's a lot of changes,
• 49:17
  Speaker 1: and like the Texans are out of an inflection point.
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: The Bills, I just think after so many playoff disappointments,
• 49:24
  Speaker 1: you couldn't just run it back with the same staff
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: and same cast of characters. You needed, Like, I feel
• 49:32
  Speaker 1: like they would come out so hungover next year and
• 49:34
  Speaker 1: like just deflated, and so they needed some new juice,
• 49:39
  Speaker 1: something to inject change. But yeah, the Bills, Texans, Ravens
• 49:46
  Speaker 1: off seasons are going to be super interesting. The Steelers also,
• 49:51
  Speaker 1: right like they finally said had enough. So there's a
• 49:56
  Speaker 1: lot of these teams that are like, all right, let's
• 49:59
  Speaker 1: it's like the it kind of reached the point where
• 50:01
  Speaker 1: like this was the year, right, you could chalk up
• 50:04
  Speaker 1: a lot of what I think happens a lot of teams,
• 50:06
  Speaker 1: and part of this is fair. A lot of teams
• 50:09
  Speaker 1: that were contenders for six to seven years in the
• 50:11
  Speaker 1: AFC just said, well it was Mahomes, Like we were
• 50:17
  Speaker 1: never going to beat Mahomes and the Chiefs right like that,
• 50:19
  Speaker 1: it was just we there's nothing we could do. The
• 50:22
  Speaker 1: Chiefs were inevitable but in a year where the Chiefs
• 50:25
  Speaker 1: don't make the playoffs, right, the Ravens don't make the playoffs,
• 50:30
  Speaker 1: and it's wide open and when you don't get there,
• 50:33
  Speaker 1: I think it's forcing a lot of these teams to
• 50:36
  Speaker 1: actually make some changes this season, which is going to
• 50:40
  Speaker 1: make next year very very interesting.
• 50:43
  Speaker 2: Even Jim Harbaugh, you know, from a look standpoint, like
• 50:48
  Speaker 2: Jim Harbaugh hired Mike McDaniel, though they have way more
• 50:52
  Speaker 2: in common. Mike his run scheme. I mean, he basically
• 50:57
  Speaker 2: mentored under Forrester, who Shanahan's guy for ever going back
• 51:01
  Speaker 2: to Washington. He's big on his wide receivers blocking. I
• 51:06
  Speaker 2: know that the little guys in Miami, but that's a
• 51:08
  Speaker 2: staple of kind of how he's been taught philosophically. They
• 51:12
  Speaker 2: actually have a lot in common. And I give Mike
• 51:15
  Speaker 2: some credit, like he clearly could have picked several jobs,
• 51:18
  Speaker 2: I'm sure, and he went with the job. He got
• 51:20
  Speaker 2: two offensive linemen coming back. You would get a ton
• 51:24
  Speaker 2: of credit if you take Herbert to the next level.
• 51:28
  Speaker 2: And it also kind of shows like there's no disputing
• 51:30
  Speaker 2: that the Eagles would have given him a ton of
• 51:32
  Speaker 2: money to be their coordinator. And this Eagles. Gig is risky, right,
• 51:35
  Speaker 2: You either are gonna be a star and to get
• 51:38
  Speaker 2: a head coach or you're gonna get fired. Like there's
• 51:41
  Speaker 2: not really much middle ground. Wh It's like, oh, you
• 51:43
  Speaker 2: just become one of the solid offensive coordinators in the league.
• 51:45
  Speaker 2: So I you know, clearly he went.
• 51:47
  Speaker 1: With a situation. Yeah, yeah, that's.
• 51:52
  Speaker 2: AJ's gonna be gone. So it's just it's kind of
• 51:56
  Speaker 2: interesting to how it all played out because to me, Mike,
• 51:59
  Speaker 2: you know, you see some I think petsing In was
• 52:02
  Speaker 2: a Detroit Washington just elevated blow. I think McDaniel was
• 52:08
  Speaker 2: clearly the most intriguing cordinate guy that was one hundred
• 52:11
  Speaker 2: second to be a coordinator. I'm not gonna get a
• 52:13
  Speaker 2: head coach like Stefanski was gonna get a head coaching job.
• 52:16
  Speaker 2: I kind of thought McDaniel might go with Robert, but
• 52:20
  Speaker 2: I thought the Tennessee Titans job. But honestly, it kind
• 52:22
  Speaker 2: of shocked me. It just shows you how obsessed he
• 52:24
  Speaker 2: is with being a head coach. I think that job
• 52:27
  Speaker 2: is much closer to Arizona than it is like Baltimore, Buffalo.
• 52:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I McDaniel, Well, I think one thing we know
• 52:35
  Speaker 1: is McDaniel clearly values nice weather, so that I might
• 52:43
  Speaker 1: have played a far true, but he Yeah, I mean
• 52:47
  Speaker 1: I wanted my ideal, this a pipe dream. Is a
• 52:50
  Speaker 1: Ravens fan in the offseason, is I wouldn't I wanted,
• 52:56
  Speaker 1: Like if I if I could just craft whatever staff
• 52:59
  Speaker 1: I wanted, I would want.
• 53:01
  Speaker 2: I want to mentor.
• 53:02
  Speaker 1: Head coach Flores DC McDaniel otse obviously very unrealistic. Yeah, McDaniel,
• 53:10
  Speaker 1: I think will be an excellent offensive coordinator. And the
• 53:14
  Speaker 1: Chargers have they just they're they're continuing to build the
• 53:19
  Speaker 1: roster to fit har Ball. And this year they were
• 53:23
  Speaker 1: never gonna win the Super Bowl. I mean, I guess
• 53:25
  Speaker 1: they could have, but the DFC is wide open. But
• 53:27
  Speaker 1: after those offensive line injuries, you just weren't gonna go
• 53:32
  Speaker 1: win three or four games in the playoffs without your
• 53:35
  Speaker 1: star tackle. So you get your offensive line, like they
• 53:38
  Speaker 1: need to still address the interior, but you get your
• 53:40
  Speaker 1: tackles back, like that's just massive, Like you get that's
• 53:44
  Speaker 1: basically like you get like two tackles back, you know,
• 53:49
  Speaker 1: Pro Bowl caliber tackles back. The question then, so I
• 53:53
  Speaker 1: think the Charger is in a really really good spot
• 53:55
  Speaker 1: next year. The question just becomes is it's is there
• 54:00
  Speaker 1: something with Herbert on the big stage now? The sample
• 54:04
  Speaker 1: size is so small, but he looked horrendous in his
• 54:08
  Speaker 1: last playoff game, and then this year looked really poor.
• 54:13
  Speaker 1: That's like the question they have to answer. We tend
• 54:15
  Speaker 1: to overreact to these things over small sample sizes.
• 54:19
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 54:19
  Speaker 1: We say this about coaches in college right. A lot
• 54:22
  Speaker 1: of in college basketball used to always say this about
• 54:24
  Speaker 1: certain coaches. They can't win the big they can't win
• 54:27
  Speaker 1: the national title. They choke in March. But it's like
• 54:29
  Speaker 1: the NFL's one and done. It's hard to win. And
• 54:32
  Speaker 1: then once you do win, people say this by like
• 54:34
  Speaker 1: Jay Wright Villanova.
• 54:36
  Speaker 2: Look at I mean, Mario had a pretty big year
• 54:39
  Speaker 2: down the stretch right to kind of shut some people up.
• 54:41
  Speaker 1: Yeap Brian Day. They said that about him until last year.
• 54:45
  Speaker 1: So I think Herbert will be fine. I think it
• 54:48
  Speaker 1: was a great hire. You get the tackles, you address
• 54:51
  Speaker 1: the interier offensive line. You just infuse a little bit
• 54:54
  Speaker 1: more talent to that roster and they're going to be
• 54:57
  Speaker 1: extremely dangerous. Like as if I had pick someone right
• 55:02
  Speaker 1: now to win the AFC next year, Like if you
• 55:06
  Speaker 1: made me pick, I probably picked the Chargers as of
• 55:09
  Speaker 1: right now without doing a lot of offseason work. So
• 55:12
  Speaker 1: I thought that was an outstanding higher. But there's gonna
• 55:15
  Speaker 1: be a lot. There's just a lot of change in
• 55:18
  Speaker 1: the AFC across the board, so it's gonna be this
• 55:20
  Speaker 1: is that it's definitely a transition off season for so
• 55:23
  Speaker 1: many teams.
• 55:24
  Speaker 2: Totally. Let's just dive right in. Uh. I didn't know
• 55:42
  Speaker 2: this till I heard someone mention this. I saw the
• 55:45
  Speaker 2: Senior Bowl director had to change a bunch of flights
• 55:49
  Speaker 2: for players, which I'm pretty sure the Senior Bowls next week.
• 55:53
  Speaker 2: And it has to do with this crazy cold front
• 55:55
  Speaker 2: that you just told me before we hopped on that
• 55:58
  Speaker 2: is coming right through up through the South, up through
• 56:01
  Speaker 2: where you live in Kentucky and maybe far enough in
• 56:04
  Speaker 2: Denver because I checked the weather this morning, I mean
• 56:07
  Speaker 2: last week in Denver. My cousin was there. I mean
• 56:10
  Speaker 2: on TV it looked beautiful, right, I mean we've had
• 56:12
  Speaker 2: Denver playoff games that look frigid and freezing. I think
• 56:15
  Speaker 2: it was, you know, low forties, but the sun was out.
• 56:20
  Speaker 2: The high is supposed to be like twenty degrees with
• 56:23
  Speaker 2: the low of like in the low single digits, so
• 56:26
  Speaker 2: that this cold front that's coming, Like to me, that
• 56:29
  Speaker 2: has an impact. I mean playing in the cold. You
• 56:32
  Speaker 2: watch these games throughout the playoffs and even late in
• 56:34
  Speaker 2: the regular season. I mean, it's just a different sport,
• 56:38
  Speaker 2: it really is. I mean that day with Jacksonville, they
• 56:42
  Speaker 2: open up the scene in Jacksonville and the kids are
• 56:44
  Speaker 2: in the pool, and then they go later that day
• 56:46
  Speaker 2: to like the Midwest. It's just like, you know, Chiefs
• 56:49
  Speaker 2: have had games that are in the negatives. I was
• 56:51
  Speaker 2: telling my wife, I'm like, there was this playoff game
• 56:53
  Speaker 2: because Minnesota was getting a new stadium, they played outside
• 56:57
  Speaker 2: and players the next week reported they had frostbite on
• 57:00
  Speaker 2: their fingers. That was like ten years ago. That wasn't
• 57:02
  Speaker 2: like in the sixties. So it just these playoff games
• 57:05
  Speaker 2: get fucking cold. It's harder to catch, it's harder to
• 57:08
  Speaker 2: hold the ball. I mean, look at CJ. Stroud. I
• 57:10
  Speaker 2: think it's fair to red flag him not a cold
• 57:12
  Speaker 2: weather quarterback. I mean that's he's got the who's his
• 57:16
  Speaker 2: cop Jared Goff kind of. That's the way he plays
• 57:18
  Speaker 2: a touch He's a touch paster. I'm not overthinking this one.
• 57:22
  Speaker 2: I just think it's it's absolutely impossible to not play
• 57:26
  Speaker 2: a snap all season long and be the true backup
• 57:29
  Speaker 2: quarterback where you are servicing the defense in practice, because
• 57:33
  Speaker 2: this is not you know most people. High school football
• 57:35
  Speaker 2: could be a little different once you get to college,
• 57:38
  Speaker 2: and definitely the NFL. The starter takes all the reps
• 57:41
  Speaker 2: and it's been like that forever, and the backup does
• 57:44
  Speaker 2: not take reps running the offensive game plan. And Sean
• 57:49
  Speaker 2: Payton made a comment I think I don't know who
• 57:51
  Speaker 2: it was too, but like he'd get mad advance Joseph
• 57:53
  Speaker 2: because he'd be lighting them up. And that's what I remember.
• 57:56
  Speaker 2: Kyle said that about Perry or Fred Warner, like he
• 57:58
  Speaker 2: used to light us up. Well, he's running the other
• 58:00
  Speaker 2: teams plays, so you know the guy might have talent
• 58:03
  Speaker 2: or whatever and be a good player, but he's not
• 58:05
  Speaker 2: focusing on, like, hey, our third down packages. I mean,
• 58:08
  Speaker 2: he is in the meeting room, but not to play
• 58:10
  Speaker 2: to come back in an AFC championship game in the
• 58:13
  Speaker 2: middle of January when you haven't taken reps, like real
• 58:16
  Speaker 2: game reps since August, which was preseason, that feels like
• 58:20
  Speaker 2: insurmountable to me. I mean, I just I just have
• 58:23
  Speaker 2: to short that, and I know I'm sure you and
• 58:25
  Speaker 2: a lot of people are like, hey, the number, this
• 58:28
  Speaker 2: is still kind of crazy, and clearly Denver's not bad,
• 58:30
  Speaker 2: but I kind of is Denver's defense as good as
• 58:34
  Speaker 2: we kind of thought it was. I mean, definitely not
• 58:36
  Speaker 2: as good as last year. And this is a huge
• 58:39
  Speaker 2: moment for Sean Payton. I mean, this would be a
• 58:41
  Speaker 2: legendary win for a coach. Legendary like this would be,
• 58:45
  Speaker 2: beside the Super Bowl, his most impressive win of his career.
• 58:49
  Speaker 2: I mean, he's now an underdog at home. I just
• 58:52
  Speaker 2: I'm taking New England in the points. Don't feel great
• 58:54
  Speaker 2: about it, but it's just the logic of the backup quarterback.
• 58:57
  Speaker 2: I have to bet against it in this situation. It'd
• 58:59
  Speaker 2: be one thing like Folds and some of these guys
• 59:02
  Speaker 2: when they got to play. If you had told me that, like, hey,
• 59:05
  Speaker 2: Bo Nicks did this a couple of weeks before Christmas.
• 59:08
  Speaker 2: He's won some games, he showed promise, he's gotten to
• 59:10
  Speaker 2: a little rhythm. He's not as good, but I'd beg okay,
• 59:13
  Speaker 2: yeah I would factor, but it's like this guy hasn't
• 59:16
  Speaker 2: played at all.
• 59:19
  Speaker 1: This Yeah, very very very difficult game to handicap. A
• 59:22
  Speaker 1: lot of uncertainty, like there's there's a much higher chance
• 59:27
  Speaker 1: in this game than many other I mean, this is
• 59:30
  Speaker 1: the largest home dog in a conference championship game since
• 59:32
  Speaker 1: the merger. For what it's where the past fifty years,
• 59:36
  Speaker 1: the home dogs in the NFL playoffs with four or
• 59:38
  Speaker 1: more points doesn't happen often nine to zero against the spread,
• 59:44
  Speaker 1: never every single one is covered. It's all with the
• 59:47
  Speaker 1: Panthers earlier this year. So I played the Broncos. I'll
• 59:52
  Speaker 1: give you my case and a lot of my thoughts
• 59:54
  Speaker 1: on the game. But I mean, it's really going to
• 59:57
  Speaker 1: come to no one really knows what this is going
• 59:59
  Speaker 1: to look like. But you know, I would have made
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 1: the Broncos like a two point favorite. I mean, they
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 1: closed a one and a half point favorite against the
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 1: Bills in one. The Bills are rated a little higher
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 1: in my opinion than the Patriots. I would have made
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 1: this like two to two and a half. So at
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 1: five and a half, that's assuming you know Nix is
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 1: worth like a touchdown. That's aggressive that the quarterbacks that
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 1: are worth a touchdown to their backup are the elite
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 1: quarterbacks in the league, and I don't think Nix is
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 1: that Nix has had a great season, has done a
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 1: lot of things late in games, but he's you know where,
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 1: he's operating under an elite play caller with an elite
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 1: offensive line, and his numbers are far from a lad.
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 1: I think he's like a league average quarterback and stead
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 1: of at least has been in the system for a
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 1: couple of years. He was the first guy that Peyton
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 1: signed when he got to Denver, so obviously he saw
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 1: something that he liked. And Stidham has four starts two
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 1: and twenty twenty two, two and twenty twenty three. If
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 1: you filter, they're out all quarterbacks over that span with
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 1: at least one hundred dropbacks, there's eighty two of them.
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 1: He's like twentieth in success rate, thirtieth in EPA. So
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 1: and he played by it. And those offenses that he
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 1: played with are really bad. The offensive lines were hard.
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 1: So some of the things that he has working for
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 1: him here a great offensive line, he does have a
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 1: little sneaky mobility, and a great play caller, and he's
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 1: playing at home. Those those are not insignificant factors, especially
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 1: the offensive line and being able to get protection. The
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 1: other things that are working in their favor here is
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 1: Obviously the home crowd playing at Denver in January is
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 1: not easy. But the noise that New England's gonna have
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 1: to deal with with an inexperienced quarterback, and I just
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 1: there's the un all the pressure now is on New England,
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 1: right like you have to beat Stidham to get to
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 1: the super Bowl or the Denver can play loose here
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 1: and then the uncertainty could work in their advantage, work
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 1: to their advantage, like the Patriots don't really know what
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 1: to expect here. You're probably gonna get the kitchen sink
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 1: from Peyton, You're you're gonna get all kinds of new books,
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 1: new packages, any trick plays that they've had, you use
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 1: them here. You just this is your You just try
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 1: to get to the super Bowl where anything can happen,
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 1: so that uncertainty could work in their favor. Additionally, this
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 1: Denver defense, I do think they're a tat overrated. They're not.
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 1: Some people talk about them in like the same stratosphere
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 1: as you know Seattle and Houston. I don't think that
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 1: they're there, but they can get a lot of pressure,
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 1: especially at home. I mean their top five and pressure
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 1: Ray top five and pressure Ay without blitzing, and this
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 1: new England offense is very vulnerable to pressure. Right now,
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 1: Will Campbell looks like a traffic cone out there, I
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 1: mean alway look like an All Pro. And then obviously
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 1: all the Texans dominated him. And may you have to
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 1: go back, go back to the regular season. They didn't
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 1: face the top ten defense the entire year outside of
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 1: Cleveland and Road Road. Eveland's defense is nothing special. He
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 1: finally has faced good defenses and he hasn't looked great,
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 1: and he has six fumbles two interceptions in two games.
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 1: And you got to play at home that pressure. And
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 1: then this is the Patriots seem it has been very
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 1: lucky with when it comes to fumbles. This Denver defense,
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 1: you know they're going to be up a little ewing
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 1: theory here, like all right, our star players out everyone
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 1: else kind of steps up for a game.
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 2: I mean, Benito's got to be licking his chops going
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 2: against Will Campbell.
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that could be problematic. And the biggest difference this Patriots.
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 1: The Patriots defense, they've been blitzing a ton lately, like
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 1: Flores type levels over their past four games. But they
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 1: went up against and you look at their schedule, they
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 1: played nothing but backups all your beat up offenses. Even
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 1: last week you have Stroud playing like that the right
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 1: the Texans right tackle was out, Nico Collins was out.
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 1: They lose Dalton Schultz in the first quarter, but they've
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 1: been blitzing a ton. The biggest difference between the Broncos
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 1: and the Chargers and the Texans is the Broncos have
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 1: an elite offensive line. Those teams have two of the
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 1: worst offensive lines in the NFL. So Stidham should.
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 2: Have some time here.
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 1: I'm curious to see if the Patriots still blits a ton.
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 1: I just think this is too much of an adjustment. Now,
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 1: to your point, this is the first time in NFL
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 1: history a player will start in the championship game or
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 1: later without throwing a pass in a live game. So
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 1: we've never seen it before. So there is a chance
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 1: that it ends in his aster. I don't think anyone
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 1: really knows, but we did see, like maybe we saw
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 1: Philip Rivers take five years off and you know they
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 1: should have won it at Seattle was the best, you know,
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 1: arguably the best defense in the NFL. Maybe he's okay,
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 1: and you know, the Rivers knew the system, he had
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 1: familiarity with the system like Stidham does. So yeah, but
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 1: no one knows. It also could just be a complete disaster.
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 1: So the other thing is the Patriots run defense is
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 1: legit when healthy, and they're now healthy. When they're line
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 1: are healthy, Milton Williams is back. They had a couple
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 1: other guys that were hurt down the stretch and the
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 1: run defense kind of created a bit. But when healthy,
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 1: you can't really run on them, which that gives me
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 1: a little bit of hesitation because a little bit of worry,
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 1: because you want with the backup quarterback, you want to
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 1: be able to rely on your run game. I don't
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 1: necessarily know if Denver will be able to do that,
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 1: but I'm gonna trust Peyton, this offensive line, and the
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 1: Denver defense to get enough pressure to keep this close.
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 1: I also played the Denver first I played Denver first
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 1: quarter plus a half point if so, I think the
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 1: uncertainty works in their favor early on, and you're gonna
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 1: have some of that. The Patriots aren't going to know
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 1: what to expect. I also could see the Patriots coming
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 1: out really conservative here, being like, let's not turn the
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 1: ball over early. Let their defense, you know, create turnovers
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 1: and get get a lead because there's a chance Thatt
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 1: of just as a disaster with Stidham right, so they
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 1: might go pretty conservative feel out with this going to
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 1: look like. The Patriots red zone defense is also horrendous,
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 1: So if Denver is able to put some things together
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 1: and get into the red zone, they might be able
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 1: to finish off your eyes with touchdowns. So my opinion
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 1: is the adjustment is just too much. But I could
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 1: be dead wrong. If anyone tells you, like with certainty
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 1: they know what Sidam is going to look like, they're
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 1: lying through their teeth. But I just think that this
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 1: should probably be like three and a half, not five
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 1: and a half. So I did play Denver. Historically, Payton
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 1: one of the best coaches against the spread as an underdog,
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 1: especially when catching over a field goal about sixty six
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 1: percent against the spread. He has had success with backups
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 1: in the past. He has had success against teams that
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 1: like the Blitz, and I'm gonna trust him to have
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 1: just put together everything he's got for this game plan
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 1: to put Sidham in the best position to put up
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 1: enough points on the board. The other thing is there's
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 1: more uncertainty because of the Patriots and their schedule, Like,
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 1: we still don't know how good this team is because
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 1: they didn't they had the easiest schedule in twenty five
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 1: years in the regular season, and then the playoffs, you
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 1: play the Chargers on offensive line and Herbert just look
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 1: like a disaster. And then you play the Texans, who
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 1: you know, Stroud couldn't complete it. I mean you couldn't
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 1: do anything. And then but they didn't have their full
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 1: they had offensive line injuries, their best receiver was out,
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 1: their best fight ends lost in the first quarter. So
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 1: like the data points of New England playing a full
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 1: team and we don't. We won't even get one here,
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 1: by the way, but like we still don't know exactly.
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 1: Like for a team that's in the AFC or NFC Championship,
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 1: you usually have a pretty good idea of who they
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 1: are and where to rate them. There's still there's a
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 1: lot of uncertainty with New England as well. But I'm
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 1: going to trust the ome dog here. But I don't
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 1: blame you for laying it. There's there's so much uncertainty
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 1: with this game and Stidham could be a disaster. I
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 1: wouldn't blame people for betting like alts, Like you know,
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 1: New England minus fourteen, minus seventeen, because if it goes
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 1: sideways and ten to play like from behind, that's when
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 1: I do think that this they will mix. They will
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 1: miss next dearly. They got to stay in this early
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 1: and keep it close.
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 2: Okay, let's get into the main event. Seattle weather actually
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 2: doesn't I look, this morning doesn't look too terrible cold,
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 2: and it always obviously could rain, but it's not You're
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 2: not talking single digits or anything. Thirties or forties, probably
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 2: high forties. To me, there are two plays you're either
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 2: take in Seattle to cover or you just take the
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 2: Rams money line. That's the way I would look at it.
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 2: And when you look at Seattle, if you remove the
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 2: end of that game whatever in the middle of December,
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 2: that Thursday night game, they kind of got dominated by
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 2: the Rams. I mean their quarterback has six interceptions and
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 2: in La I mean he was that was as bad
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 2: of a game as he's played the last two years.
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 2: And obviously he played two horrendous games at the end
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 2: of last season in Minnesota. I'd argue he was worse
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 2: than that Rams game. Of the four picks, like three
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 2: of them were like real atrocious, like hitting guys in
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 2: stride like CJ. Stroud level picks the other day and
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 2: then he flipped in the obviously had a great drive
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 2: to win the game. But you know that Shaheed who
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 2: has been huge for him, So it's not be like,
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 2: well they got a random, you know, punt return. Well
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 2: he just had a kickoffort like the guy's electric player.
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 2: I mean it can happen. He's He's clearly an X
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 2: factor against a team whose special teams are I'm watching Signetti.
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 2: I'm like, if I'm Sean McVeigh, i call his special
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 2: teams coordinator, like, hey, would you be interested in coming
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 2: to the NFL? You you want to come work for
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 2: the Rams. We're pretty good and we'll pay you a
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 2: lot of money. Like I would be all over that guy.
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 2: I wouldn't even outthinking these offensive coaches like McVeigh and Channe,
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 2: they hate special teams. Just go find like that guy.
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 2: They're blocking kicks and doing shit every game. To me,
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna have faith in Sam Donald. What do you
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 2: think about this comp Seattle reminds me a little of
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 2: the twenty nineteen forty nine Ers, Unreal defense, unreal front
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 2: Sherman wasn't all pro that year, their secondary was really good.
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 2: Obviously they had great quick young linebacker play, and Jimmy
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 2: Garoppolo just kind of had to manage the game. And
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 2: remember in that NFC Championship game, he had eight attempts. Now,
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 2: I don't think that's gonna be quite the case. But
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 2: Sam Donald's had a game where he threw twelve completions
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 2: for one hundred and twenty yards and they won by
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 2: almost forty points. So it's like he just has to
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 2: play in this Kobiak Shanahan offense like a Jimmy Garoppolo.
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 2: But he is better than Jimmy talent wise. But like Jimmy,
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 2: if you force him to pass too much, he can
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 2: throw it to the other team. So to me, it
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 2: all comes down to, like, can they turn Sam into
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 2: game manager? They will win this game. If they have
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 2: to rely on them, like Sean relies on Stafford. It
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 2: could get dice in, could get dicey fast.
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 1: And very dicey if they have to allow on him.
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 1: Because also you have the oblique issue which could flare
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 1: up at any time, and that flares up with the
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 1: more times that you have to throw, and it impacts
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 1: your deep passing.
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 2: So how about that first pass of the Niner game
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 2: when it will like kind of skipped, You're like, oh,
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 2: this could be a And then Shanahan said after the game,
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 2: he's like that Torri roll kicks in. You get a
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 2: little numb. He started rolling and like you said, what
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 2: eighteen attemp? It's not like he threw it forty nine
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 2: times yeap.
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 1: So, and he's playing a defense it doesn't get pressure.
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 1: The Rams can get pressure, and that's been Donald's crypto.
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 1: Donald has been one of the worst quarterbacks in the
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 1: league against pressure this year, and that against the Rams
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 1: who can get pressure. Going back to last year for
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 1: Donald and then the two meetings this year, that leads
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 1: to Donald making mistakes. So that has to be the
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 1: But this will come down.
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 2: But if the Rams aren't able, why why do you
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 2: think Shula's owned him so much? Is just the pressure
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 2: on him? Is the looks changing? I mean because clearly
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 2: over three games from a statistical standpoint, for a guy
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 2: that's resurrected his career and been excellent against most other opponents,
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 2: has been horrendous. Yeah.
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 1: I think a lot of it just boils down to
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 1: the pressure. And keep in mind this the left tackle
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 1: situation for Seattle is very dicey there. Backup and starter
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 1: didn't practice yesterday. We'll see what the practice reports say today.
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 1: But they could be down to like a third string
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 1: left tackle against Verse, which is not ideal. But this
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 1: so it just gets to three. I've been waiting for ticular.
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 1: I have to take the Rams now. The sched the
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 1: spot is not ideal for the Rams. They could be
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 1: like worn down, and maybe that's what we're seeing. But
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 1: this goes back to that crazy lucky win that the
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 1: Seahawks had that decided the one seed. And this is
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 1: the benefit that you get. The Seahawks had to buy
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 1: and then a blot win at home and then they
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 1: stay at home host the NFC Championship. They have basically
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 1: haven't exerted much energy at all in a month. Meanwhile,
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 1: the Rams went to Carolina, We're in a dogfight. Chicago
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 1: go to overtime, and then could fly to Seattle for
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 1: their third straight road game after an overtime game.
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 2: Wait, Atlanta, remember Monday night football? This second to last week,
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 2: you know Seattle. Second to last week was San Francisco,
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 2: So wasn't that far of a flight.
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 1: Haven't had a break. We're buying forever, So like, are
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 1: they starting to wear down? Is that what we're seeing?
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 1: But if this is a three, If there's a three,
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 1: I have to take the Rams. I think that there's
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 1: part of this is there's a little overreaction and recency
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 1: bias for what we've seen over the past month. If
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 1: you go back just a week sixteen, so we have
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 1: sixteen weeks, almost a full body of work. After that
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 1: Rams Seahawks game, you set everyone that watches that the
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 1: Rams are the best team in the NFL and they're
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 1: gonna win the Super Bowl. And that has changed drastically
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 1: in less than a month. And the Seahawks have just
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 1: played the Niners with all their injuries, and the Panthers.
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 1: They've only played two teams, so and I get the
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 1: Rams that haven't looked as great since then. But the
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 1: Rams went to Seattle and put up five hundred and
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 1: eighty one yards and really only lost because of a
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 1: Fluke two point conversion. They also missed a field goal.
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 1: Your point about special teams, though, is valid. Seattle is
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 1: a major advantage. They have elite special teams. The Rams
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 1: do not. The Rams missed a field goal in that
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 1: game that would have won it. They gave up a
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 1: punt return that flipped the game. Part of it is
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 1: that the Rams like their roster it was set. They
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 1: were not supposed to be in this position, but they
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 1: hit on their draft picks, Like nailed their draft picks right.
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 1: They sacrificed their future for that super Bowl that they got,
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 1: and they were going to have some very bad years
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 1: on the defensive side of the ball, but they hit
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 1: on their draft picks. They were able to maintain their
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 1: level on that side. But the depth of the roster
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 1: isn't great, which leaks into the special teams and that's
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 1: why I think they're spe teams are really struggled. But
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 1: you're right, they could use like just a special teams
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 1: coordinator wizard. But that's a huge advantage for Seattle here.
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 1: But don't just I think in that game, I bet
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 1: Seattle plus one at home against the Rams. They got
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 1: dominated and I got very lucky to win that bet.
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 1: They closed minus one. But keep in mind the Rams
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 1: were without Dotson, who you know, Argua with the best
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 1: guard in football. He came back last week looked dominant,
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 1: and they were without Devonte Adams and they still put
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 1: up nearly six hundred yards one of the things they did.
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 1: They ran right at Nick even Wore, ran right at him,
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 1: and I mean he Nick even Wore has been amazing,
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 1: Like he has changed. One of the reasons why that
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 1: McDonald defense is unreal. They have no weaknesses and they
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 1: you know, he's able to basically play linebacker and d
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 1: back and that you can match heavier, light personnel. This
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 1: will come back.
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 2: They're literally looking for a Kyle Hamilton type player, and
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 2: there just is a guy in this draft that they
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 2: can get in the second round. Kyle Hamilton type players, size,
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 2: they don't even really exist most drafts, and then there
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 2: just happens to be a guy. Kyle Hamilton was a
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 2: high pick, but you don't even need to draft that
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 2: high that you can just get in the second round.
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 2: I mean, it worked out fucking perfectly for him.
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 1: Unbelievable. So but this will come down to so like
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 1: in that game, Seattle is one the Rams. We're missing
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 1: two of their better players on offense. Now the Rams
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 1: are fully healthy on offense, the Seahawks might not be,
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 1: you know, Donald oblique their left tackle situations. Dicey lost
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 1: Chara so at three. I think it's way too much
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 1: of an overreaction, and I'd have to take the Rams.
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 1: What I think this game will come down to is
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 1: and now, maybe Stafford's hand is a thing, and maybe
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 1: they're fatigued, you could argue that for sure, but at
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 1: a field goal, I'd have to take it. But I
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 1: think this is just going to come down to absolute
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 1: football porn between McVeigh and McDonald. So the first meeting,
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 1: oddly enough, the first meeting, McDonald dominated McVeigh, but McVeigh one.
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 1: In the second meeting, McVeagh dominated McDonald and McDonald won.
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 1: And then you go back to the raid in Baltimore.
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 1: McVeigh dominated McDonald when they had the number one defense
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 1: in Baltimore, but McDonald won in overtime. But I think,
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 1: like so, mcdagh made some really good adjustments and it's.
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 2: Really back to that. We're back to that circle. You know,
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 2: Kyle still has success against the Rams, McVeigh against Seattle.
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 2: Seattle against the Niners is fucking life in the NC West.
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 1: So there is in the first meeting, the Rams used
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 1: eleven personnel like sixty five percent of the time. In
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 1: the second meeting, they used thirteen personnel sixty five percent
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 1: of the time, and they had success running right at
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 1: Eman Warret. It was also in a short week. McDonald
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 1: said he tried to implement too many complex things and
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 1: it was too much on a short week. But you know,
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 1: both teams are going to make adjustments. What did the
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 1: Rams do last week? They abandoned heavy personnel. I don't
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 1: know why, because that's how you want to attack the Bears,
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 1: especially in bad weather. But you know mcvay's gonna throw
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 1: a curveball and you know McDonald's gonna have kurballs. Which
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 1: one is more effective? Which one makes the better in
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 1: game adjustments? That is going to be absolute porn. The
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 1: difference could be, you know, and if mcvay's able to
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 1: move the ball and they're able to put up points,
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 1: how do they also treat Nakula this time around? Because
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 1: Adams is playing? I mean, think about Nicooa went off
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 1: against It's unstoppable and Adams wasn't even playing. What is
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 1: the adjustment there? Do they bracket him more? Does Adams
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 1: look a little healthier this week? But the biggest difference
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 1: here is Stafford's okay under pressure and Donald is not.
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 1: So if this gets into a high scoring affair and
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 1: Donald needs to match Stafford, and he has that oblique
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 1: and there might be left tackle issues. I'm taking the Ram,
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 1: But if the Seahawks defense is able to do its thing,
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 1: like in the first meeting at home in this situation,
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 1: then the Seahawks probably get it done. You throw in
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 1: the special team's advantage. So this comes down to mcday
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 1: and McDonald and it's you could look at, however, the
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 1: other staff, like we talk about these games and as
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 1: better as try to break them down, but when in
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 1: the highest leverage games, that's when you make the most changes, right,
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 1: So they know that the staff's looking at the same
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 1: things and the ten you want to break ten in
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 1: season these games. So what do the Seahawks do differently,
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 1: and what do the Rams do differently in the third meeting,
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 1: and who does it more effectively and catches the other
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 1: team appart, That's probably what's going to decide this. That's
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 1: what makes football chess matches like this so awesome. So
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 1: I can't wait to watch it. But at three, I
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 1: think it's just too much of a reaction to what's
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 1: happened recently. Like just a month ago, everyone was saying
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 1: after a game in Seattle with a short handed offense,
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 1: the Rams are the best team. They just put up
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 1: six hundred yards on this defense, and I think we're overacting,
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 1: maybe just a little bit to what Seattle and Seattle's
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 1: offense hasn't been great for. You know, since week ten,
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 1: teams have adjusted, right. Mc donald was number third in
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 1: EPA per player for the first ten weeks. Since then
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 1: twenty seventh, and a lot of that, the run games
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 1: gotten better because a lot of that is teams are
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 1: playing lighter boxes. Against the Seahawks. Early in the season,
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 1: they were running but not running it well. But teams
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 1: were loading the box because they hadn't think the Seahawks
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 1: had all these tight ends and they were running it
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 1: a tone, but that was just they were just doing
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 1: that to set up the play action in deep shots.
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 1: To JSN. Well, defenses have since that, run it, we
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 1: don't care. Run it if you want, We're going to
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 1: take away the deep ball. We're going to bracket JSN.
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 1: So the Seahwks have their run games gotten better, but
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 1: those explosive passing plays have gone out the window. And
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 1: I think the Rams will play it the same way. Right,
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 1: They'll say, yeah, run it if you want, We just
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 1: want to. You're not gonna be able to do it
• 1:20:51
  Speaker 1: consistently enough all the way on the field without getting
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 1: into a third down where then we can get unleash
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 1: our pass rush and get to Donald. I think that's
• 1:20:59
  Speaker 1: got to be their goal so this but I think
• 1:21:02
  Speaker 1: this all just comes down to the McVeigh versus McDonald
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 1: chess match, which is as good as it gets. I
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 1: can't wait for that game.
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 2: Well, one major difference in the Niners, clearly with their
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 2: wide receiver injuries. You know, Kitt'll being out in this
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 2: last game. When it's like third and six, they have
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 2: no chance for guys to get open against that defense.
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 1: Well, the Niners, they're not a defense and can get
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 1: pressure against Donald.
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 2: Two's yeah so and it flips. So it's but when
• 1:21:27
  Speaker 2: you look at the rams on offense and it's third
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 2: and six, you could argue, if DeVante's healthy, they have
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 2: the two best possession wide receivers in the league. So
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 2: it's like, you know, I mean Jefferson and Chase, these
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 2: guys are more explosive. But those two guys on third
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 2: and seven or third and five, when it's a must
• 1:21:43
  Speaker 2: pass on a slant on an out, when it's just
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 2: something to get past the six and make a fucking play.
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 2: I mean, you could argue DeVante's been the best version
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 2: of that guy for a decade and Puka is now
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 2: the best at that so and that's a huge advantage.
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 2: I thought that win going on the road, and I
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 2: know Chicago was flawed, but their defense when you start
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 2: getting single digits, those games are really hard. They're not
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 2: gonna be thirty five to thirty. That's not the way
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 2: it's played. That was. I mean everything we've talked about
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 2: Miami for twenty five years, what the Rams have done.
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know what the weather was like
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 2: last week in LA but it probably wasn't colder than
• 1:22:16
  Speaker 2: sixty to handle that in the physicality like they've That
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 2: gets to the way they've built the team with the GM,
• 1:22:23
  Speaker 2: the way mcveigh's, the mindset that the forty nine ers
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 2: have done the same over the years, be able to travel,
• 1:22:27
  Speaker 2: it's a physicality mindset in the cold, and that shit
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 2: translates in the playoffs. So I if the Rams play well,
• 1:22:34
  Speaker 2: like they can win this game, no problem. Like I say,
• 1:22:37
  Speaker 2: no problem, Like it wouldn't shock anybody if you tell
• 1:22:39
  Speaker 2: me the Rams win this game, right, twenty five to
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 2: twenty or something. So that's in Stafford. I mean, if
• 1:22:46
  Speaker 2: he's on, they're just tough.
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 1: And I mean think I think the most I mean
• 1:22:51
  Speaker 1: you mentioned Nikoua, and maybe the most impressive performance of
• 1:22:54
  Speaker 1: the entire season is what MKUA did in Seattle against
• 1:22:59
  Speaker 1: that defense with no Adams. I mean that teamens gives
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 1: up nothing. They haven't given up a play over twenty
• 1:23:03
  Speaker 1: yards in a month. They give up nothing to anybody.
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 1: And Nicoua without Adams had twelve catches for two hundred
• 1:23:13
  Speaker 1: and twenty five yards. Like, that's ridiculous against this defense.
• 1:23:16
  Speaker 1: This defense doesn't give up one hundred twenty five total
• 1:23:18
  Speaker 1: yards in a game. So how does that's another one
• 1:23:23
  Speaker 1: of these adjustments. What did they do with Nikouah? I
• 1:23:27
  Speaker 1: mean because he did that without Adams in the line up,
• 1:23:29
  Speaker 1: been without Dotson. So yeah, just I can't wait to
• 1:23:33
  Speaker 1: watch that chess match. I do think. Now, again, it's
• 1:23:37
  Speaker 1: one football game. Anything can happen, but I do think
• 1:23:42
  Speaker 1: this the winner of this game is your Super Bowl winner.
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 2: Well, think think about the Let's say New England wins.
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 2: New England then has to fly back to New England,
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 2: which is a long flight, and then fly back to
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 2: San Francisco. Well, Seattle and the Rams they never leave
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 2: the time zone. So Seattle wins, they'll just fly down
• 1:23:58
  Speaker 2: to San Francisco whatever in a week, not a long flight, LA,
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 2: it's like forty five minutes. I mean, it's it's it's
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 2: a pretty convenient Super Bowl setup for the winner of
• 1:24:08
  Speaker 2: this NFC championship game. That there's no disputing that, right, Yeah.
• 1:24:12
  Speaker 2: I now here's a question if you don't know, I
• 1:24:15
  Speaker 2: don't know, if you factor that in with the extra
• 1:24:17
  Speaker 2: bye week, it makes it a little easier. But that
• 1:24:19
  Speaker 2: that's cross country flight. Anyone who's made it, just doing
• 1:24:22
  Speaker 2: it one time, just it's a lot.
• 1:24:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah, No, there's it's definitely worth mentioning if you were
• 1:24:30
  Speaker 1: the Patriots, because I mean, if you I think the
• 1:24:36
  Speaker 1: let me I'll pull up the hypothetical because we're saying,
• 1:24:42
  Speaker 1: given this the situation right now, all right, so in
• 1:24:47
  Speaker 1: the Super Bowl right now, the look at lines are
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 1: literally the same exact price. So the hypotheticals the Rams
• 1:24:57
  Speaker 1: are minus three and a half minus one oh four
• 1:25:02
  Speaker 1: against the Patriots, the Seahawks are minus three and a
• 1:25:04
  Speaker 1: half minus one oh four against the Patriots, literally identical prices.
• 1:25:10
  Speaker 1: So from a if you just if you we assume
• 1:25:14
  Speaker 1: that line is right, then mathematically, just to odds probability,
• 1:25:20
  Speaker 1: there's no difference in the teams. But who would you
• 1:25:22
  Speaker 1: want to face, right, Like, historical you go against the
• 1:25:26
  Speaker 1: Seahawks historically great defense, but you get to face Sam
• 1:25:28
  Speaker 1: Darnold or you know, the Rams their defense a little
• 1:25:33
  Speaker 1: more gettable, but you have to face Stafford and that offense.
• 1:25:38
  Speaker 1: And I do think that the Rams would benefit immensely
• 1:25:44
  Speaker 1: from the two week break, right, we just talked about
• 1:25:47
  Speaker 1: the stretch that they've been on and how like fatigue
• 1:25:51
  Speaker 1: might be getting catching up a bit, and they've had
• 1:25:54
  Speaker 1: all that travel all right, they might really benefit from
• 1:25:59
  Speaker 1: that two weeks. So as good as the Seattle, I
• 1:26:03
  Speaker 1: don't think there's a huge difference, but his dominant Seattle defenses,
• 1:26:07
  Speaker 1: I think I would if I could pick from the
• 1:26:09
  Speaker 1: Patriots or the Broncos, I'm picking Seattle.
• 1:26:15
  Speaker 2: I think, Yeah, I think the shitty part. If you're
• 1:26:18
  Speaker 2: Sean Payton, you're like your offensive line is at least
• 1:26:21
  Speaker 2: equipped to handle the versus the Leonard Williams like you could.
• 1:26:25
  Speaker 2: The Patriots would be at a big disadvantage against, especially
• 1:26:28
  Speaker 2: the way Seattle's defensive lines humming, you know, and I
• 1:26:33
  Speaker 2: you know, Donald is not going to play like C. J.
• 1:26:35
  Speaker 2: Stroud in a sixty degree Levi Stadium day. So I
• 1:26:39
  Speaker 2: I think that offensive line, you know, the Rams have
• 1:26:43
  Speaker 2: had moments where they're off. Their defensive line has disappeared.
• 1:26:46
  Speaker 2: Now they showed up definitely last game. It felt like that.
• 1:26:50
  Speaker 2: I mean, they did a great job on Caleb kind
• 1:26:52
  Speaker 2: of breaking down, not letting him scramble around. They were
• 1:26:54
  Speaker 2: excellent against them run. Yeah, I mean I think that Chris.
• 1:27:00
  Speaker 1: Hard for me to see the Broncos having a chance though,
• 1:27:02
  Speaker 1: like you, I mean, Stida will have a start under
• 1:27:05
  Speaker 1: his belt. But I think the way that they win
• 1:27:08
  Speaker 1: this game is, you know, with the home crowd, with
• 1:27:10
  Speaker 1: their defense against the battle line, and this has to
• 1:27:13
  Speaker 1: be Peyton kitchen sink. You gotta throw everything at and
• 1:27:16
  Speaker 1: now you're gonna they're gonna have There's only so much
• 1:27:19
  Speaker 1: you can do with Stidham after that one game. So
• 1:27:22
  Speaker 1: it's very difficult for me to see the Broncos beating
• 1:27:24
  Speaker 1: either of the Seahawks or the Rams. But yeah, if
• 1:27:29
  Speaker 1: I was the Patriots, I think I would choose the Seahawks.
• 1:27:31
  Speaker 1: But it's very very close. I mean, the price is
• 1:27:33
  Speaker 1: literally identical, but I will say from I do hope
• 1:27:36
  Speaker 1: that it is. We do get the Patriots versus the
• 1:27:38
  Speaker 1: Rams are Seahawks just from an entertainment and us talking
• 1:27:41
  Speaker 1: about it perspective.
• 1:27:43
  Speaker 2: So, uh, you got potentially no power this weekend? Is
• 1:27:47
  Speaker 2: that what it's looking like?
• 1:27:48
  Speaker 1: It's close. We're on right on the like fringe of
• 1:27:53
  Speaker 1: whether it's all snow or if it's ice, and no
• 1:27:56
  Speaker 1: one really knows, so hopefully it's just snow and it's
• 1:27:59
  Speaker 1: not like a half inch ice, which would then knock
• 1:28:01
  Speaker 1: down power lines and trees, which would be an absolute nightmare.
• 1:28:07
  Speaker 2: What would you do if there's no power on a
• 1:28:08
  Speaker 2: Sunday during the games?
• 1:28:11
  Speaker 1: I mean, I have thirteen portable chargers, but always take
• 1:28:17
  Speaker 1: out to bar. I would bring out a couple of bars,
• 1:28:20
  Speaker 1: and I'd lose them in my house. I'd buy more,
• 1:28:21
  Speaker 1: so I have so many. I found every single one
• 1:28:23
  Speaker 1: in my house. I'm charging them all so I would
• 1:28:27
  Speaker 1: be able to watch it on my phone. And I
• 1:28:31
  Speaker 1: have a gas fireplace, so I'll just be sitting in
• 1:28:33
  Speaker 1: front of my fireplace watching on my phone, so I'll
• 1:28:35
  Speaker 1: be able to watch Because the bars, I could get
• 1:28:38
  Speaker 1: down to my wife's bar. I don't know if they
• 1:28:40
  Speaker 1: would have power open that up.
• 1:28:44
  Speaker 2: That's why God made whiskey keep you warm.
• 1:28:46
  Speaker 1: That's true. So yeah, I'll be able to watch, but
• 1:28:48
  Speaker 1: it might not be the most ideal setup, but I will.
• 1:28:53
  Speaker 1: I'll make sure that I have devices charged and ready
• 1:28:58
  Speaker 1: to stream all day. But hopefully it doesn't come to that.
• 1:29:01
  Speaker 1: We'll see.
• 1:29:02
  Speaker 2: Well, stuck, you enjoy the weekend, stay warm, and we
• 1:29:07
  Speaker 2: will talk soon.
• 1:29:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah, get some rest, brother, cheers the volume