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What Does Red Ice… Do to You? 🤔 - Detroit: BH - Part 1 · Replay Reviews

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  New game.
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  New game.
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  I'm really excited to do this game.
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  I liked Sleeping Dogs.
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  That was a good time.
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  But there's just something about a David Cage game.
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  It's our second one.
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  Heavy Rain was a good time.
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  Speaking of Heavy Rain, actually, should we do the out of context summary points?
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  Yeah.
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  In this episode, Merlin is back.
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  He's reincarnated.
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  He's been uploaded.
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  We meet a new and improved Jayden.
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  And what exactly does doing Red Ice feel like?
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  Because it sounds a little…
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  We will discuss.
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  Thank you for coming back from our replay reviews.
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  My name is Leah.
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  And my name is Kathy.
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  We are two friends who are here to replay, review, and analyze your favorite video games.
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  And since Kathy has never seen the games before, it helps me view them through her fresh eye
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  eyes.
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  Almost like I'm discovering them again for the first time.
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  We hope it will be a similar experience for you.
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  Is there anything you want to say before we get into scene one?
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  Well, I partially forgot it was a David Cage game going into this.
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  And then we watched like two minutes into it and I'm like, oh yeah, it's definitely
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  a David Cage game.
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  There's something so distinct about his aesthetics and his game and the way the game
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  characters look.
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  I'm curious if this game was released before or after Heavy Rain.
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  After.
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  I think probably 2018.
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  The quality does seem a lot better.
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  My birthday in 2018.
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  Nice.
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  Totally unnecessary detail.
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  Okay, yeah.
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  Well, we kind of start out within two minutes.
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  It's pretty much already personified.
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  Like the artificial intelligence.
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  Oh, I thought you said already.
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  Oh, sorry.
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  I thought you said already and I was like, the heck are you talking about?
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  I was trying so hard.
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  Yes.
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  I have more to say on that.
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  So I guess let's start.
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  Let's start from the top.
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  Okay.
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  Right.
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  We're in the year 2038.
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  Androids have become commonplace.
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  We see in this first scene one example of how they've been integrated.
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  So it's August 15th and there is a man looking thing in an elevator.
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  We do learn pretty quickly that this is an android and he is a negotiator slash cop.
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  And we soon find out why he's been called in.
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  It appears that this location, a family of three lives here.
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  It's so weird because when he picks up the picture, the family portrait, these people
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  are younger than us.
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  It's so weird.
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  I love a futuristic game, but like where the years can still correlate to where we are.
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  It's very tricky to the mind.
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  So as this android who we will soon learn is named Connor walks farther into the apartment,
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  the mother bumps into him and says, please, please, you gotta save my little girl.
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  Wait, you're sending an android.
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  All right, ma'am, you need to go.
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  You can't do that.
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  Why aren't you sending a real person?
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  I think she's just overreacting because I could totally see her in a place that she
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  may have not had any positive experience with an android or we know that androids aren't
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  very empathetic.
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  So maybe she's worried that her daughter being a human is going to be in more danger because
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  the negotiator is someone who doesn't do feelings.
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  At the very least, there seems to be some trust issues going on, but we'll soon learn
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  that an android, the family's helper, has taken the daughter hostage at gunpoint and
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  it's our job, Connor's job, to save her.
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  So they're also calling the person who's holding the girl hostage as a deviant and that's what
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  Connor processes it as.
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  But I'm even wondering what is classified as a deviant versus what is classified as
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  normal, because they are all robots.
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  Yeah, they're not all deviants.
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  We'll learn pretty quickly that that's basically a deviant is just an android that has gone
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  off course.
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  They've deviated from their program.
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  And then it's pretty cool.
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  This is what you were talking about.
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  We get to see Connor's functionality at work in the apartment.
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  It's some pretty fun and creative gameplay, I will say.
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  And as you mentioned, it's quite similar to Ari.
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  It's like the new and improved Ari and Connor's kind of like the new Jayden.
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  I think David Cage just loves a detective character.
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  I was just thinking he recycled his storylines into like a new version of it.
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  One of the biggest issues with Heavy Rain was like the camera rotation issue.
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  When you turned around, then the controls got inverted.
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  They somewhat fixed that in this game, which I'm very happy about.
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  You can see it when Connor, instead of turning around when I switched the camera, he just
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  walks in a circle, which I think is pretty cool.
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  It's a lot more fluid.
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  There's obviously something fishy with Cyber Life because you learn from a magazine cover
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  that they look way too happy in jelly.
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  And then that's pretty suspicious.
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  So we don't really know what's going on.
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  Yeah, what we learned walking around the apartment is that Daniel, the deviant and the little
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  girl were pretty close, and that Daniel is going to be replaced.
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  The family had purchased a new android.
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  After learning this, we go out to the terrace where he's holding her hostage at the edge
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  of the roof, which why is there not like a fence or a railing?
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  Am I wrong?
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  Is there- did he step over a fence or is it just- I have to look now.
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  I don't know, but you have a pool on the top of your roof, so it is slippery surface.
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  And there's a kid.
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  I feel like this is just a lawsuit waiting to happen.
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  Well, I hate heights to begin with.
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  I just don't understand why we have to make it worse.
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  Why do we do things like this?
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  Okay, there's maybe like a two or three foot little fence thing, but that's not enough.
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  It's not enough.
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  You sneeze, you stub your toe, you trip, you're done, you're over the edge.
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  I don't know about you, but I get so mad at the helicopter pilot.
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  Oh my gosh, yes.
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  He should be fired.
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  How do you not expect the furniture to blow around like that when you get that close?
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  He could have knocked them off the roof.
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  I was thinking the exact same thing.
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  I was thinking, wow, what if the furniture or the umbrella just knocked them both off
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  the roof?
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  What an anticlimactic ending to the scene that would have been.
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  Can someone please edit that?
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  I want to see that.
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  So Connor is now actively negotiating with the deviant Daniel, and he takes a risk to
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  provide first aid to a downed officer.
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  From the act, we see a stat pop up on the screen, public opinion, which is currently
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  indifferent.
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  Hopefully Connor does succeed in the negotiation, but he lied to Daniel in order to do so.
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  And as a result, we see another stat pop up on the screen, software instability.
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  Do you think Connor feels some regret for having lied to Daniel, getting him to trust
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  him knowing that he's just going to be destroyed?
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  I don't think so.
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  One, they're not supposed to have feelings, so he's just doing what's statistically
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  the best option to get his conclusion, which is programmed by humans so he doesn't have
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  to process guilt.
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  So I don't think he feels bad about lying.
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  Otherwise, lying would have never been an option for him.
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  Connor walks away, mission accomplished.
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  I have to say, this is a fantastic opening scene.
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  For sure one of my all time favorites.
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  Out of the games I've played, it may be my favorite opening scene.
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  How did you feel about this?
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  It's a pretty intense way to start the scene because it also sets the tone that you have
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  an issue with robots that are starting to generate their own feelings.
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  And it's a pretty applicable concern we have in today's society right now.
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  What if AI started doing their own things?
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  And there's also the ethics part.
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  And that kind of speaks back to what Connor is doing.
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  Isn't it unethical for him to be lying and gaining their trust only for him to somewhat
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  betray them?
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  I don't know.
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  I feel like this game is going to teach us a lesson about empathy.
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  It's going to have a lot of pieces that are frighteningly similar to today and the past
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  few years.
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  But I just had to give it credit for this opening scene.
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  Are we ready for scene two?
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  Let's do it.
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  Scene two, where Kathy almost fell asleep.
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  Oh my gosh, you caught that?
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  It was so boring.
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  I don't blame you.
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  I'll say playing this section is very satisfying.
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  Watching it is not.
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  There's a lot of hand yoga for you.
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  Kind of like heavy rain.
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  There's a lot of unnecessary stuff.
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  I don't know if it's teaching each controls or it's just finger yoga or what is going
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  on but I was so tired.
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  So we meet Kara, another android in another role.
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  It is now November 5th, three months after we saw Connor.
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  Kara's owner Todd picks her up from being repaired.
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  Apparently she had been hit by a car.
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  And then we pretty quickly go to credits, which is the city of Detroit seen from Kara's
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  point of view on the ride home.
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  And we see lots of less than favorable opinions on androids.
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  I feel like it's creepy that they're making these robots and they're pretty much slaves
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  and that we're just recreating slaves that we're not treating them well either.
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  Yeah it's weird that we knew what we wanted to do.
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  It's weird to make them people.
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  Like a dog would be good, right?
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  A little obedient dog that wants to help you and it doesn't feel so dehumanizing.
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  Right?
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  It's like if you knew you wanted someone to clean the dishes you would create a machine
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  where you throw them all in and then it organizes things.
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  You mean a dishwasher?
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  Well no, but the thing is that you'd have to still organize it into your thing.
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  This one would do all the organizing.
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  You would just toss it into the sink.
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  Which is funny, they do have a vacuum cleaner so you have the purpose and you created something.
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  You don't need to make a human go around and do that.
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  We just love playing God.
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  We just do.
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  But let's move on.
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  After the credits we meet a third android who is going about his duties, also on November
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  5th.
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  His name is Marcus and on his walk we see more tension and anti-android opinions.
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  We see a sign saying human music.
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  So it seems that there's even android music which is taking over some of that human touch
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  and then more job loss issues.
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  And it's pretty darn accurate to today's issues.
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  There's conversation about using AI just pretty much stealing people's artwork just to reproduce
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  art or like same goes with music and audiobook narrators.
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  And so it's kind of creepy that this was, what, you said 2018?
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  So that's about six years ago.
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  Yeah, it's still pretty recent but six years is a while back and who knows how long it
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  was in production before that.
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  So it's interesting.
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  Also, I was really excited to see the model for Marcus.
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  It's Jesse Williams' voice and it does look like him.
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  Which also, was he not a blind KS option?
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  I do not remember.
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  Yeah, the double check.
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  How did I not choose him?
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  No, I think he was and I made a comment saying that he looks like Jesse Williams.
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  I'm not gonna tell you but I'm gonna look real quick.
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  I was like, there's, because I have to have put him on there.
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  I feel like I would have.
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  I think I made a comment saying he looks like Jesse Williams.
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  I'm not gonna read the comments because I don't want to be spoiled.
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  Yeah, we'll have to come back but stay tuned for our summary episode.
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  I'm already expecting so much now.
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  The fact that you're already panicking.
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  I'm like, you're surely panicking.
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  I'm like, breaking out of a cold sweat.
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  We're 15 minutes into the game and you're panicking already.
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  Alright, it's not a good look for me.
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  No, okay.
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  Where were we?
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  I just remember, in the beginning, I think it's during when Kara is driving through
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  the city, we also see a statue in the middle of the downtown area where it's just a arm
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  with the hands and a closed fist.
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  I'm wondering if that is symbolizing oppression or what?
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  Yeah, I saw it too.
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  I didn't pay it much mind but I was like, oh, is that something grasping technology?
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  Is this an android thing?
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  So I don't know.
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  It wasn't on the screen very long.
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  I don't know if it comes back.
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  It might be as significant as the random kid's faces during the game.
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  The amount of time I spent comparing those faces to the murdered children is ridiculous.
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  Anyway, moving on.
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  Marcus runs into a protest led by this man and he's very intense when he sees Marcus
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  and he confronts him saying, I know who you are.
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  I can see through you.
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  You are the one by whom the evil will come.
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  You are the one who will destroy Detroit.
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  Very interesting to me that the evil is capitalized.
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  Why'd they proper noun it?
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  What does that mean?
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  I don't know.
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  I don't either.
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  What did you make of this little exchange though?
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  It's kind of odd.
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  It felt pretty culty, I guess.
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  You know how you get a feeling when you watch Outlast and it's not necessarily a cult,
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  but it has that kind of feel to it?
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  Yeah, he's like a doomsayer.
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  Is that a thing?
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  Yeah, he's like a doomsayer, a person that predicts disaster.
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  That's kind of what he feels like.
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  I don't know if he's representing a larger group or not, but it's very interesting.
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  He sort of paints Marcus as the fulfillment to some prophecy.
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  It's a very odd exchange.
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  At the end of the game, I kind of want to go back to it and see if we can figure anything
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  out about this guy.
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  Marcus gets to the paint store and picks up the paint.
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  On his way to the bus, he's berated and eventually assaulted in the plaza by this guy that looks
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  kind of like a knockoff Jared Leto.
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  A little too much.
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  The more I'm watching this, the more I'm able to tie these people back to celebrities.
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  And I'm like, yeah.
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  Anyway, a cop breaks up the scuffle and not Leto says, they're going to take your job
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  next to the cop, which is what a great reference to Connor, the detective android that we just
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  saw.
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  So we're back to Kara and this is the part specifically that almost did you end.
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  She carries out her duties, laundry dishes, trash and general cleanup.
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  And it's really satisfying to play this part because I love efficiency and I'm like, what's
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  the most efficient route, efficient way to do all this stuff.
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  So I think it's fun to play, but just from watching it, it's pretty boring.
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  So I don't blame you.
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  So boring.
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  I'm slightly embarrassed that you caught me falling asleep, but you can't blame me though.
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  Oh my gosh.
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  So Todd immediately comes across as an a**.
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  Oh my gosh.
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  Yes.
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  He is such a jerk.
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  Maybe like he could try getting off the couch and doing some housework and then he wouldn't
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  be so angry and be productive and a good person in society.
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  Well you took that so deep.
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  Well he's such a jerk to his own daughter too.
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  The fact that she's like cowering.
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  I just like, someone needs to call CPS.
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  He is an angry, angry man.
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  We maybe learn a little bit of why.
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  While Kara's doing laundry, she finds a packet of red crystal eyes things, red crystals in
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  the detergent bucket.
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  She analyzes it to find that it's something called red ice.
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  And then Todd shows up behind her, gets pissed and then gets rough with her for finding it
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  and says to stay out of his business.
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  And then there's also a phone conversation we overhear that kind of makes him sound like
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  a drug dealer.
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  First of all, if you didn't want her to find it, don't put it in the freaking detergent
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  where she's going to be going in and out of to use.
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  Also when she's collecting trash, there's absolutely no way those pizza boxes are fitting
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  in that trash can.
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  And that kind of just irritates me.
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  Why didn't they just make the trash can bigger?
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  Please.
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  What irritated me was the glass bottles and everything where she could have been recycling
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  them.
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  They don't recycle in Detroit, Kathy.
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  They probably have androids that sort through it at the trash facilities now.
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  While taking the trash out, Kara notices a bunch of overdue bills and rejected credit
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  card applications.
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  So Todd is not doing hot, but he is doing red ice.
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  He's going wild on it.
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  It's disgusting.
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  What do you do?
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  The noises he makes.
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  We're keeping that in.
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  What is going on?
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  What is going on?
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  What does red ice do to you?
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  I don't know, but the after effects is that it makes you aggressive and want to be your
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  own child.
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  So at the very least continuing on her duties, she's upstairs now.
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  She tidies up Todd's bedroom, finds a gun.
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  We also learn a few things on the news about unemployment, a new cyber life plan.
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  Then Todd comes out of the upstairs bathroom and she goes in there to clean it up right
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  after he just blew up the toilet.
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  It's gross.
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  I don't know if you notice the look on her face when she comes out of the bathroom.
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  She may not have feelings, but she knows disgusting when she sees it.
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  I wonder if they can smell.
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  Yikes.
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  Kara eventually gets into Alice's room to clean up in there a little bit and Alice warms
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  up to Kara and gives her a key to a jewelry box.
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  In it, Kara finds some drawings, one which appears to depict what looks like Todd attacking
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  and damaging Kara.
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  So she wasn't hit by a car, right?
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  Obviously not.
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  We know this guy has rage issues.
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  Yep, speaking of, Kara goes back downstairs to see Todd being rough with Alice.
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  Okay, moving on, we are back to Marcus.
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  It's still the same day.
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  He returns home and we learn that he is the caretaker for an old man named Carl.
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  And this is when we see in the foray, the room, the big entryway room, there's birds
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  in a cage.
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  It's Merlin's.
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  It's little android Merlin's.
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  And guess what, Cappy?
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  And Merlin has a friend!
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  That?
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  But I was going to say, they're actually yellow this time.
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  Yeah, I know.
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  That's you.
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  They're yellow!
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  If you don't know what we're talking about, go watch or listen to Heavy Rain from last
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  season.
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  We're stupid is basically what it comes down to.
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  We're struggling.
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  Carl seems so cool.
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  Also his house is cool.
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  It's like a one bedroom mansion.
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  He has a freaking giraffe in there.
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  What are your impressions of Carl?
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  I really like Carl.
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  Carl is a demonstration of good humans that exist in their world because up until now,
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  we've only met humans who yell at androids, who treat them terribly, who are bad fathers,
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  who are pushing and shoving.
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  It's a really nice change to meet someone nice.
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  Marcus brings him downstairs to serve him breakfast and I know you had to notice the
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  origami killer's calling card as home decor on his shelves.
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  Know what?
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  You didn't notice?
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  Kathy!
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  I'm like too busy looking at other things apparently.
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  Oh my goodness.
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  Let me...
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  4823.
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  There'll be multiple times where you can see it.
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  I walk right up to them too.
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  I can't believe you didn't see them.
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  There's origami all over his bookshelf!
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  How did I not notice that before?
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  I don't know.
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  I was wondering what you were doing over there too.
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  I remember it was like, oh, why are you walking to the bookshelf not recognizing anything?
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  There's also more of them behind the giraffe that you noticed.
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  Oh my gosh.
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  It makes me even more convinced that the birds are an Easter egg and that we were really
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  onto something with Merlin.
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  I really think we were onto something.
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  Also a much more pleasant piano scene in this game compared to Heavy Rain and just another
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  reference overall.
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  It won't be the last.
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  Anything before Carl comes over to talk to him?
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  My thought is that you would think that if they can create freaking androids that are
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  pretty much like humans, they could find a way to extend the life of humans.
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  Yeah, that is a good point because he doesn't seem overly old.
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  One thing that he says to Marcus is,
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  One day I won't be here to take care of you anymore.
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  You'll have to protect yourself and make your choices.
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  Decide who you are and want to become.
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  Interesting.
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  It also brings up the question, what happens to androids when their owners are no longer
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  there or don't want them?
• 24:03
  Do they get returned back to cyber life to be recycled and reused again?
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  Or is it part of the inheritance?
• 24:13
  Carl continues to try to push Marcus towards humanity in a way while painting.
• 24:19
  He convinces him to paint something that isn't just a perfect copy of what he's seeing.
• 24:27
  Being able to paint probably correlates to one's feelings.
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  So to have an android be able to paint what they're feeling is like the first step of
• 24:39
  recognizing that they do have emotions.
• 24:42
  They are soon interrupted though by Carl's deadbeat son, Leo.
• 24:47
  He arrives asking for money and is clearly burning through it way too fast.
• 24:52
  Probably doing red eyes, that's kind of what is referenced.
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  Do you agree?
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  Yeah, he's pretty much a loser.
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  He's a pre-Todd.
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  He's gonna be Todd someday.
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  And he has clear daddy issues.
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  Because of this apparent addiction, Carl refuses to give him money and Leo gets very angry
• 25:13
  and even pushes Marcus and says, you never loved me, took Carl.
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  Well, if Leo really stepped up his game and proved himself to be a better person, maybe
• 25:22
  his dad would love him some more.
• 25:24
  It's so terrible of me to say that.
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  But Leo clearly has issues with feeling like he's competing with Marcus as being who's
• 25:35
  the better son and he's obviously losing this battle.
• 25:39
  Are you ready to go back to Connor?
• 25:44
  It is still the same day.
• 25:46
  Connor is tracking down his new partner, Lieutenant Hank Anderson.
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  He finds him at Jimmy's bar.
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  Anderson seems cranky and it maybe amuses Connor.
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  What do you think of Connor so far?
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  I think he's just straightforward and he just does what he needs to do to get his results.
• 26:09
  I don't know, he seems like an extremely smart newborn baby.
• 26:19
  He's smart but he doesn't really know what he's doing when it comes to interactions.
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  I don't know.
• 26:27
  He's got an innocence about him.
• 26:29
  Yeah.
• 26:30
  He has a very high IQ but very naive and not necessarily low EQ but just not really great
• 26:40
  about reading body language and reading the room.
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  But he's eventually able to convince Hank, Lieutenant Anderson, to go to the crime scene.
• 26:51
  When we get there, we learn that the landlord had stopped by after the tenant hadn't paid
• 26:56
  rent in a few months and he found the body of Lieutenant Carlos Ortiz.
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  As Connor, investigating the scene, we learn Red Eyes is present.
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  We find a bloody knife which Connor licks to analyze the blood and Hank does not like
• 27:16
  this at all.
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  Which, this isn't the first time he's done that.
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  No.
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  We find blood trails, signs of a struggle in the kitchen, the words, I am alive written
• 27:25
  in blood using CyberlifeSans font, and then through reconstructions, Connor learns exactly
• 27:32
  what happened, including that the android was attacked, likely causing emotional shock.
• 27:38
  Connor also finds RE9 written over and over again in the shower as well as a little statue
• 27:42
  thing.
• 27:44
  After reconstructing the entire crime scene, Connor knows the deviant must be nearby and
• 27:49
  he does eventually locate him in the attic.
• 27:52
  So RE9 sounds like Ari, which to me made my mic connect to Heavy Rain.
• 28:00
  Ari is the parent program.
• 28:05
  It morphed into RE9.
• 28:06
  That's crazy.
• 28:07
  There's a connection to Heavy Rain here, Kathy.
• 28:10
  There has to be.
• 28:11
  We're onto it.
• 28:12
  Yeah, we're onto it.
• 28:15
  More than just Easter eggs.
• 28:18
  So this deviant begs Connor out to turn him in, but after only a microscopic moment of
• 28:23
  hesitation, Connor calls out for Hank and the deviant has been captured.
• 28:29
  I think Connor hesitating whether or not to call Hank just indicates his maybe potential
• 28:36
  to somehow start thinking for himself and not thinking because of the way he's programmed.
• 28:43
  And the first time we see him, no hesitation, but this time we see this slight little oh
• 28:49
  and he maybe is starting to develop some empathy on why Carlos got stabbed 28 times and he's
• 28:58
  understanding where the deviant is coming from.
• 29:01
  There's a meme that you don't even know that you're referencing.
• 29:03
  It sounded like you were referencing it, but you weren't.
• 29:08
  Real quickly, I should have mentioned this at the beginning, but at this point we don't
• 29:12
  have a choice as Connor, right?
• 29:14
  He chooses for us to turn him into Hank, but this is a decision-based game.
• 29:19
  So the issue with replaying decision-based games is how to do it, right?
• 29:25
  And so for this game, I decided to make the choices that I felt made for the more cinematic
• 29:33
  experience in terms of the story unfolding.
• 29:37
  So just little, what's the word?
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  P.S.A.
• 29:43
  What's the word?
• 29:44
  Damn it, this is really messing me up.
• 29:45
  Oh, Leah, you're going to poop your pants if you can't think of the word.
• 29:50
  I am, and that's what always happens when I can't find it.
• 29:56
  I need to find this word or I'm going to have diarrhea.
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  We'll go with disclosure.
• 30:02
  So yeah, just a little disclosure on how I came about making decisions in this game as
• 30:08
  I have played through it multiple times.
• 30:11
  Anyway, should we move on to scene six?
• 30:15
  Okay, we are back to Kara who ends up in a dire situation.
• 30:22
  Still the same day, but now 914 PM, Kara serves Todd and Alice dinner during which Todd becomes
• 30:27
  erratic, and eventually boils over and begins to hit Alice.
• 30:33
  Kara eventually breaks through the demand or her code, whatever she breaks through,
• 30:39
  something and two options, reason with Todd or protect Alice.
• 30:45
  There's no way Todd can possibly be reasoned with, right?
• 30:48
  I mean, that's, there's no way.
• 30:51
  So I chose to go up to protect Alice and Kara has now become a deviant.
• 31:00
  I'm glad she broke through and it's starting to make sense why this game is called Become
• 31:06
  Human.
• 31:07
  I'm really glad Kara is going after Alice because truly she's the one who needs protection
• 31:13
  and I'm glad she was able to figure out how to break the code and it seems like it's triggered
• 31:18
  through strong emotion.
• 31:21
  During Todd's rant, he was mad that Alice's mom took off.
• 31:27
  How could the mom just leave without taking Alice with her?
• 31:30
  Like when you know the husband Todd is as abusive as he is and you decide to leave your
• 31:36
  child, the least you could do is call CPS.
• 31:39
  I'm so pissed at that.
• 31:41
  Her parents, like she deserves better parents and she deserves a more humanized version
• 31:46
  of Kara because obviously there's only one person who's going to protect her in this
• 31:50
  situation and it's Android.
• 31:52
  A fight does break out, but Kara remembered the gun and ends up shooting and killing Todd
• 31:58
  and she and Alice make a run for it.
• 32:01
  Do we need to do this so long for Todd?
• 32:04
  No.
• 32:05
  Kill me, mother******.
• 32:07
  Kill him.
• 32:08
  You knew my feelings from day one.
• 32:10
  Moment one.
• 32:11
  Yeah, moment one.
• 32:14
  At 9.42pm, Marcus and Carl return home after a cocktail party to find that the light in
• 32:20
  his studio is on.
• 32:22
  Marcus calls the police and then the two of them investigate to find an unhinged Leo looking
• 32:26
  to steal some art.
• 32:29
  Anything you want to add so far?
• 32:31
  Uh, Leo's a dick.
• 32:37
  That's it?
• 32:38
  Well, I have more notes that I want to talk about.
• 32:41
  Let me put a few more comments in first and then we'll get there.
• 32:46
  So during the confrontation, Leo pushes Carl and abuses Marcus.
• 32:51
  Carl orders Marcus not to defend himself, but the abuse pushes him too far and he breaks
• 32:56
  through just as Kara did to become deviant.
• 33:00
  So okay, Carl, why would you tell him to not defend himself?
• 33:06
  Knowing that-
• 33:07
  I think he still cares about his son.
• 33:09
  Well, is he truly acting like your son?
• 33:13
  Because apparently you haven't followed him much and he hasn't respected you either much.
• 33:18
  And I'm just so irritated when Carl's just going like, Leo, leave him alone.
• 33:23
  And then not doing any type of action.
• 33:25
  I get that he's not in a position to be doing anything, but just yelling that.
• 33:30
  Just telling a woman to calm down.
• 33:32
  You're not going to get any impact.
• 33:34
  So his lack of parenting for Leo is probably why Leo is such a dick and a spoiled brat.
• 33:43
  I think that's the question.
• 33:45
  Was he a sucky dad or did the drugs just get him?
• 33:49
  Is it all the drugs or was there more to it?
• 33:52
  And the thing is, it's a bit of a hypocrite because in the beginning he's talking about
• 33:57
  Marcus that you should be more human, be on your own, find your own path.
• 34:02
  And then the next thing you do is like, oh Marcus, just let him punch you in the face
• 34:06
  and let him destroy your body.
• 34:08
  I see your point.
• 34:10
  I think Carl's just helpless.
• 34:13
  I don't think he wants either one of them hurt.
• 34:15
  I think he's just in a situation that he can't really control and he's trying to do what
• 34:20
  he can.
• 34:22
  But despite having free will, Marcus, me, chooses to endure the abuse for Carl's sake.
• 34:29
  I think Marcus cares about Carl.
• 34:30
  He doesn't want to make him mad.
• 34:33
  Carl collapses and Marcus runs over to him and Carl says, remember Marcus, don't let
• 34:40
  anybody tell you who you are.
• 34:42
  And Marcus yells, dad, while crying.
• 34:45
  Meanwhile, Leo's just standing in the background watching.
• 34:50
  And Leo's like, you did this.
• 34:52
  It's so awkward.
• 34:53
  Oh my gosh.
• 34:54
  Leo is pissing me off.
• 34:56
  He's an idiot.
• 34:57
  And then the police show up and Leo says, oh, it was the Android.
• 35:01
  And then they shoot him.
• 35:02
  Which is so irritating that the police are like, shoot first, then ask questions.
• 35:08
  That kind of attitude, just siding with Leo when there's truly no need to shoot Marcus.
• 35:14
  It's not like he was resisting or anything.
• 35:16
  Yeah.
• 35:17
  The only thing is if, like how well known is deviancy at this point?
• 35:22
  Because if everyone's freaked out about androids and then they think, oh, they walk into this,
• 35:27
  you could understand it doesn't make it okay.
• 35:29
  But I think it might give a reason as to why they shot first.
• 35:33
  Yeah.
• 35:34
  Perhaps.
• 35:35
  Okay.
• 35:36
  Final scene.
• 35:37
  It's now November 6th.
• 35:39
  Connor and Gavin watch Hank face a brick wall in the interrogation with the deviant that
• 35:45
  Connor captured.
• 35:47
  Gavin suggests roughing it up, but Connor says androids can't feel pain.
• 35:52
  And he thinks that he should just try to interrogate it.
• 35:55
  So he goes in.
• 35:56
  He stares at the two way mirror.
• 36:00
  And I love Hank's reaction.
• 36:03
  Throughout this interrogation, we learn a detail.
• 36:06
  He says, I was programmed to hunt devians like you.
• 36:10
  I'm concerned who's the one who did the programming?
• 36:14
  If it was cyber life or the police that asked him because if cyber life is the one who programmed
• 36:20
  Connor to do that, is it because cyber life knows there's a lot of flaw in their software?
• 36:25
  So they need to have this type of backup plan?
• 36:29
  Or is it the police who's just trying to maintain order in their city?
• 36:34
  Connor was sent to the police to assist in the investigation by cyber life.
• 36:40
  So well,
• 36:42
  cyber life obviously knows there's some issues with their products.
• 36:46
  So that's the question.
• 36:47
  Why is cyber life still in mass production of their androids?
• 36:51
  If there's a growing population of those that have issues.
• 36:57
  And then about the shower statue, the deviant responds, it's an offering so that I'll be
• 37:03
  saved an offering to r a nine.
• 37:06
  He says only r a nine can save us.
• 37:09
  Connor asks him more about r a nine and he responds, the day shall come when we will
• 37:14
  no longer be slaves, we will be the masters.
• 37:18
  Connor continues to try but is unable to find out who r a nine is.
• 37:21
  What are your thoughts about r a nine at this point?
• 37:24
  It's pretty creepy how these deviants and I don't even know if he was a deviant at that
• 37:30
  point of time, but just in general how androids are thinking that there's a higher power up
• 37:36
  there that can save them from humans.
• 37:40
  And I could see why they would want to revolt against all the pain that they're being put
• 37:45
  through right now.
• 37:47
  This is interesting.
• 37:48
  I just had an interesting thought because so far it seems like we've seen all the emotional
• 37:52
  shock that has caused deviancy.
• 37:54
  It's been like fear of being replaced, being attacked in Marcus's case and in this androids
• 38:01
  case and then with Kara it's emotional shock of something happening to someone else that
• 38:08
  she cares about.
• 38:10
  But we haven't seen any emotional shock of a good thing.
• 38:14
  So yeah, I'm curious what we'll pick up on that and then if a good emotion can trigger
• 38:20
  enough emotional shock to result in deviancy.
• 38:25
  So Connor successfully gets the confession and in my first playthrough I forgot to do
• 38:32
  it the second time because I missed the meme that you just accidentally referenced a minute
• 38:39
  ago so I have it pulled up to show you because we cannot go through this game without talking
• 38:44
  about 28 stab wounds.
• 38:47
  So you'll recognize this moment from my playthrough.
• 38:50
  Oh my god.
• 38:53
  28 stab wounds.
• 38:57
  The way he jumps.
• 38:59
  I jumped too.
• 39:00
  What are you talking about?
• 39:01
  I jumped too.
• 39:02
  I had the volume way up in my headphones.
• 39:07
  It's too good.
• 39:08
  Yeah.
• 39:09
  He didn't seem like the aggressive type though so I'm kind of surprised one of the options
• 39:13
  is you can make him that aggressive.
• 39:16
  That's what I love about this game especially with Connor.
• 39:19
  You can really go different directions with him but I just love- everybody loves the 28
• 39:25
  stab wounds.
• 39:28
  After concluding the interrogation the others enter and Gavin pushes the deviant dangerously
• 39:33
  close to self destruction which Connor had mentioned before.
• 39:37
  Deviants have a tendency to self-destruct if they become overly emotional.
• 39:42
  Connor has to get assertive to make them unhand the deviant leading to a frosty impression
• 39:47
  with Gavin and causing some guns to be drawn.
• 39:50
  We're in a real standoff situation here.
• 39:53
  Well first of all Gavin is like Blake so again recycling of characters.
• 40:00
  Different looks though.
• 40:01
  Yeah.
• 40:02
  What does he say?
• 40:03
  What does Blake say when he throws the chair?
• 40:06
  Fucking asshole!
• 40:07
  I totally forgot about that.
• 40:08
  Oh.
• 40:09
  Okay.
• 40:10
  Oh gosh.
• 40:18
  Yeah I don't think Gavin was that aggressive as Blake is.
• 40:23
  Anyways.
• 40:25
  I think Connor is starting to find and get closer to the edge where too much emotion
• 40:32
  pushes him over the edge because we haven't seen Connor that aggressive up until this
• 40:37
  point besides the 28 stab wounds.
• 40:40
  So we're watching him starting to be more empathetic with more androids.
• 40:47
  He is unlike other androids where he's programmed specifically to hunt deviants.
• 40:54
  So what's gonna happen?
• 40:57
  Let me have you consider this though.
• 40:59
  Is he showing empathy for the deviant or is he afraid of the deviant being destroyed which
• 41:05
  will make his job harder?
• 41:07
  He says you don't understand if it self-destructs we won't get anything out of it.
• 41:12
  So is his main concern getting information out of it or empathy?
• 41:17
  If he says it like that then I would think it has more to do with getting information
• 41:21
  and evidence out of it but if he didn't say that line then I would think that it's truly
• 41:27
  out of concern for another deviant or another android.
• 41:31
  Yeah.
• 41:32
  They're both valid though because at the very end of the scene the deviant walks out and
• 41:36
  says the truth is inside and we see Connor with another spike of software instability.
• 41:42
  So something is affecting Connor.
• 41:46
  But by the way back to Gavin.
• 41:48
  He doesn't throw a chair like Blake does but why does he say f*** like that?
• 41:53
  It sounds like a duck sneezing or something he's like f***.
• 41:56
  Let me go and look.
• 42:03
  What is that?
• 42:06
  It sounds like a sneeze.
• 42:08
  It sounds like yeah a duck a sneeze I don't know but it's not f***.
• 42:14
  I can tell you that.
• 42:18
  Even with the boss an accent I don't think you would get it like that.
• 42:21
  At least you don't have heavy rain accents this time.
• 42:23
  Yeah that was so bad.
• 42:25
  In this scene though I'm pretty annoyed and I'm actually really annoyed for watching only
• 42:30
  part one of a game but this part like the inability for the humans in this game for
• 42:37
  them to be so ignorant and not listen and the way their ego is just in their way of
• 42:43
  their comprehension skills it is driving me crazy.
• 42:49
  Well let's keep track.
• 42:50
  What's this 14 years away?
• 42:52
  Are we gonna do any thinking for ourselves in 14 years?
• 42:57
  We'll have to figure that out because I have a feeling if you don't want to you don't have
• 43:02
  to be a critical thinker at all by the year 2038.
• 43:06
  There's gonna be so much stuff so I don't know if that's part of it but they're all
• 43:10
  stupid.
• 43:12
  I agree with you.
• 43:13
  It's very irritating.
• 43:15
  Any closing thoughts from you for part one?
• 43:17
  What'd you think so far?
• 43:19
  I'm liking it so far but I'm curious to see what's gonna happen.
• 43:23
  I'm really nervous for Kara and Alice because I really do want them to be able to escape
• 43:29
  without punishment.
• 43:32
  This is one that I'm very excited to talk about because I think that there is a lot
• 43:36
  to talk about so I'm looking forward to it.
• 43:40
  I will be tracking secret stats and you're gonna have to guess again.
• 43:46
  Now I'm shaking my head.
• 43:47
  One of them I know I'm doing, the other one I haven't decided but the one I'm leaning
• 43:55
  towards you're gonna absolutely hate me for.
• 43:58
  Oh gosh.
• 43:59
  The fact that I can't even pay attention to the origami is making me quite concerned about
• 44:04
  what kind of sites you're gonna choose.
• 44:07
  Anyway, get ready to guess.
• 44:12
  Is there anything else that you want to say for the start of this new game or should we
• 44:16
  close it out?
• 44:17
  I think I said all I said and let's save it for next part.
• 44:20
  So with that I'm gonna close it out.
• 44:22
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• 44:26
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• 44:29
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• 44:38
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• 44:42
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• 44:46
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