Latest / Inside the Birds: A Philadelphia Eagles Podcast / Football at Four: How Should Eagles Handling Playing Time For the Final Two Games?

Transcript

Football at Four: How Should Eagles Handling Playing Time For the Final Two Games? · Inside the Birds: A Philadelphia Eagles Podcast

• 0:00
  Speaker 1: Now Live. This is football at four.
• 0:04
  Speaker 2: Hurts second down, roll, look, fire, good play, cut down.
• 0:09
  Speaker 1: There are lots of ways to do it. You line
• 0:12
  Speaker 1: up Skinny Batman on a condensed split, a tight split,
• 0:16
  Speaker 1: and he just.
• 0:17
  Speaker 2: Outruns the quarterback to the end zone for a six
• 0:20
  Speaker 2: yard touchdown.
• 0:21
  Speaker 3: Lafonte Smith as heard here on ninety seven three ESPN
• 0:26
  Speaker 3: Melo Reyes Mike Quick calling the DeVonta Smith touchout, which
• 0:29
  Speaker 3: was nice to see him get that touchdout after having
• 0:31
  Speaker 3: that drop earlier in the game. The usually reliable Davonta
• 0:34
  Speaker 3: Smith as the Eagles found their offense in the second half.
• 0:38
  Speaker 4: Of that game.
• 0:39
  Speaker 3: Josh ending along with Peachy hanging out with you the
• 0:41
  Speaker 3: Fanatics Sportsbook Inside Ocean Consina Resort in a Langsy which
• 0:45
  Speaker 3: brings you each and every.
• 0:46
  Speaker 4: Day football at four.
• 0:48
  Speaker 3: Ocean Cansina Resort is the place to be this football season.
• 0:53
  Speaker 3: For all the games, go to Fanatic Sportsbook, go to
• 0:56
  Speaker 3: Ocean Go for the Win for more invasion, and visit.
• 0:58
  Speaker 4: Oceanac dot com.
• 1:00
  Speaker 3: Jeff Moscher from the Inside the Birds podcast and Philly
• 1:02
  Speaker 3: Voyce joins us now on nine seven three ESPN.
• 1:06
  Speaker 4: Jeff, welcome in. How are you doing today?
• 1:08
  Speaker 1: Hey, guys, what's going on?
• 1:10
  Speaker 3: Not too much, So, you know, I want to kind
• 1:12
  Speaker 3: of ask you about a little bit about what happened
• 1:15
  Speaker 3: with the Eagles game because I feel like one of
• 1:17
  Speaker 3: the comments that you and Adam brought up on the
• 1:20
  Speaker 3: postgame show on Inside the Birds the post game, which
• 1:23
  Speaker 3: is how it was almost like, you know, in halftime,
• 1:26
  Speaker 3: it was like they got to have like find themselves again,
• 1:29
  Speaker 3: and I feel like all of the Delaware Valley was
• 1:31
  Speaker 3: losing their minds.
• 1:32
  Speaker 4: So they're down ten to seven to this Washington team.
• 1:35
  Speaker 3: And there's two sides of it, right, Jets one said, Well,
• 1:38
  Speaker 3: if Jake Elliott makes those field goals, that's the one
• 1:41
  Speaker 3: part of it.
• 1:41
  Speaker 4: But the other part of.
• 1:42
  Speaker 3: It is how does the offense, after doing what they
• 1:45
  Speaker 3: did against the Raiders struggle so badly in the first
• 1:49
  Speaker 3: half of that game.
• 1:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, you know, a big question I have is,
• 1:57
  Speaker 2: I know, I know it sounds strange, but how much
• 1:59
  Speaker 2: did the game plan change a little bit without having
• 2:02
  Speaker 2: Cam Ltsu Because the week before against the Raiders, they
• 2:06
  Speaker 2: came out and put three tight ends on the field
• 2:09
  Speaker 2: and played ground and pound football quite a bit, and
• 2:12
  Speaker 2: Lot two was in there and he really gives them
• 2:14
  Speaker 2: an element of blocking that Calcata doesn't. And you saw
• 2:17
  Speaker 2: against Washington they were a completely different looking offense conceptually
• 2:23
  Speaker 2: from the start. They were way more eleven personnel, spread
• 2:27
  Speaker 2: personnel spread empty, you know, where you have five out,
• 2:31
  Speaker 2: And it looked to me like they wanted to pass
• 2:34
  Speaker 2: to set up the run, as opposed to what they
• 2:36
  Speaker 2: did against the Raiders, which was work back, well, work
• 2:39
  Speaker 2: run to set up the pass.
• 2:41
  Speaker 1: So and some of it was successful. They went and scored.
• 2:43
  Speaker 2: You know, obviously they had the fumble on the kickoff,
• 2:45
  Speaker 2: so that put them back a little bit, and then
• 2:47
  Speaker 2: their second possession was very good. But by the third possession,
• 2:51
  Speaker 2: you know, they go down the field sixty seven yard
• 2:53
  Speaker 2: score touchdown. You talked about the nice route route to
• 2:56
  Speaker 2: DeVante Smith there. And then on their next two drives, Josh,
• 3:00
  Speaker 2: I mean they really they go twelve play sixty five yards,
• 3:03
  Speaker 2: eleven plays forty two yards, they get into Washington territory and.
• 3:07
  Speaker 1: They miss field goals.
• 3:08
  Speaker 2: So I mean I think that they they certainly to me,
• 3:12
  Speaker 2: you know, they'll never come out and say it, but
• 3:14
  Speaker 2: I think they wanted to pass the ball like that.
• 3:17
  Speaker 1: I don't think they wanted to be spread out. I
• 3:19
  Speaker 1: think they wanted to go quickly because Washington's.
• 3:22
  Speaker 2: Defense was so beat up and in the secondary and
• 3:24
  Speaker 2: easily and you saw, I mean, there were a lot
• 3:26
  Speaker 2: of connections where they got yards after the catch.
• 3:28
  Speaker 1: Shis just some easy pitch and catch moments for Jalen Hurts.
• 3:32
  Speaker 2: But the point I brought up in the in the
• 3:35
  Speaker 2: in the postgame show that you might.
• 3:37
  Speaker 1: Be talking about is that that's kind of not what
• 3:39
  Speaker 1: the Eagles are. And you know, like.
• 3:43
  Speaker 2: It came against Washington, so you take away the grain
• 3:45
  Speaker 2: of salt, and it seemed like they were two different
• 3:48
  Speaker 2: teams from one week to the next, from the Raiders
• 3:50
  Speaker 2: game to the Washington game.
• 3:51
  Speaker 1: And I just wonder if that's part.
• 3:53
  Speaker 2: Of them not really having a great identity this year offensively,
• 3:57
  Speaker 2: is that each week they're trying something different and hoping
• 4:01
  Speaker 2: that that is the formula as they move further away
• 4:04
  Speaker 2: from being an explosive run team that hits you from
• 4:06
  Speaker 2: the start and the finish.
• 4:08
  Speaker 4: And Jalen Hurts kind of addressed staff.
• 4:10
  Speaker 3: I can play the audio really quick here, Jeff, because
• 4:12
  Speaker 3: I thought Jalen was asked about that after the game,
• 4:15
  Speaker 3: about how he described it as are finding different ways
• 4:19
  Speaker 3: to win each week. Look with the audience here what
• 4:21
  Speaker 3: the Eagles quarterback had to say Saturday night.
• 4:23
  Speaker 5: Right now, We'll finding ways to win. I think we'll
• 4:25
  Speaker 5: finding ways to win. But it takes a component of
• 4:28
  Speaker 5: complimentary football as all, and that's always the.
• 4:30
  Speaker 4: Name of the game.
• 4:31
  Speaker 5: And being able to you know, be effishent I'm having
• 4:34
  Speaker 5: fishing runs, stay ahead of the sticks, be intentional about
• 4:37
  Speaker 5: what we're doing, set up as a sequence, hit the
• 4:39
  Speaker 5: way it's supposed to be sequenced, and ultimately be able
• 4:43
  Speaker 5: to adjust. Right, every game is different, you know, every
• 4:45
  Speaker 5: game is different. You saw it's under center last week.
• 4:48
  Speaker 5: You saw us doing more, you know, lots of play
• 4:50
  Speaker 5: action and even in weeks prior. So I think we
• 4:53
  Speaker 5: can go down every game this year and see a
• 4:55
  Speaker 5: difference in approach. I think that's okay for us to
• 4:57
  Speaker 5: be for that could be.
• 4:59
  Speaker 1: Who we are.
• 5:00
  Speaker 3: And well, I appreciate his answer, Jeff, to your point,
• 5:03
  Speaker 3: it's like, listen, they just went out there, We're gonna
• 5:06
  Speaker 3: run against you every week.
• 5:07
  Speaker 4: Basically they knew what they were doing last year.
• 5:10
  Speaker 3: Yeah, their approach might have been moderately different like the
• 5:13
  Speaker 3: Steelers game for last year, but like they weren't literally
• 5:17
  Speaker 3: changing the script to each and every week, whereas this team,
• 5:20
  Speaker 3: it's like, from week to week, you don't know what
• 5:23
  Speaker 3: version of the offense you're getting.
• 5:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah, And so that's why I'm trying not to put
• 5:28
  Speaker 2: too much of a value judgment, positive or negative on it,
• 5:31
  Speaker 2: because I.
• 5:31
  Speaker 1: Think we're all kind of curious where this is going.
• 5:35
  Speaker 1: I think some of the best teams in the league.
• 5:38
  Speaker 2: I know, some of the best teams in the league
• 5:39
  Speaker 2: are adaptable, meaning they can do different things right week
• 5:45
  Speaker 2: to week based on the matchup to be successful, whether
• 5:48
  Speaker 2: it's offense or defense.
• 5:50
  Speaker 1: The Eagles never really had to be that way last year.
• 5:53
  Speaker 1: They were basically going to win the same way. They
• 5:55
  Speaker 1: were gonna have a so so passing game that every
• 5:58
  Speaker 1: once in a while they would do something.
• 6:00
  Speaker 2: You know, like the Steelers game, they would come out
• 6:02
  Speaker 2: and throw the ball a little bit, but in general
• 6:04
  Speaker 2: they were gonna run the ball and play great defense.
• 6:07
  Speaker 2: I just wonder can they continue to live in this
• 6:11
  Speaker 2: environment of we're going to be different offensively week to
• 6:13
  Speaker 2: week when you get to the playoffs, will that work?
• 6:18
  Speaker 2: Will they be able to overcome the lack of a
• 6:21
  Speaker 2: really strong run game, or will they have a really
• 6:24
  Speaker 2: strong run game and be able to play the way
• 6:26
  Speaker 2: they played historically.
• 6:27
  Speaker 1: I can actually, if you want to widen the lens,
• 6:32
  Speaker 1: I can almost see I can almost.
• 6:34
  Speaker 2: See the way they're adapting now on offense being better
• 6:38
  Speaker 2: for the long haul than maybe this year. You know,
• 6:40
  Speaker 2: like maybe they get tripped up and losing a playoff
• 6:42
  Speaker 2: game because they're.
• 6:43
  Speaker 1: Just not functioning well as a pass offense against a
• 6:46
  Speaker 1: really good defense.
• 6:47
  Speaker 2: But because they've integrated all these concepts and have started
• 6:50
  Speaker 2: to work them better, by next year, maybe they you
• 6:53
  Speaker 2: expand and continue in and you're not relying on the
• 6:56
  Speaker 2: A line in the run game all the time.
• 6:58
  Speaker 6: Do you see a formula, Jeff, to where this team
• 7:01
  Speaker 6: can kind of infuse some identity into their offense. Like
• 7:06
  Speaker 6: the last two games, we've seen Jalen run a little
• 7:09
  Speaker 6: bit more. We've seen aj kind of moved around a
• 7:12
  Speaker 6: little bit more. We've seen a lot of like maybe
• 7:15
  Speaker 6: ten eleven yard twelve passes to move the chains, stay
• 7:19
  Speaker 6: on the field and get rid of the three and outs.
• 7:21
  Speaker 6: Is there a formula that the Eagles can kind of
• 7:24
  Speaker 6: go with in the playoffs?
• 7:27
  Speaker 2: I mean, well, there's positives they can tap into with this, right,
• 7:31
  Speaker 2: they can now something they couldn't say last year of
• 7:34
  Speaker 2: the year before is they can say, now, hey, we
• 7:37
  Speaker 2: have an under center play action game. We have an
• 7:40
  Speaker 2: under center running game. It's not very good. They're under
• 7:42
  Speaker 2: center running game, but their play action game has actually
• 7:45
  Speaker 2: been pretty good. Off of it, they can say we
• 7:48
  Speaker 2: can now go spread, empty, five wide, no protection, no
• 7:52
  Speaker 2: tight end, no running back in and throw the ball
• 7:54
  Speaker 2: around and give our receivers yards after the catch.
• 7:57
  Speaker 1: Right. And also, if you noticed, when you play that way,
• 8:00
  Speaker 1: it sets.
• 8:00
  Speaker 2: Up your ability to have the quarterback run and scramble.
• 8:03
  Speaker 2: I think we've seen that now over the last two
• 8:05
  Speaker 2: weeks more than we saw in the first thirteen weeks.
• 8:08
  Speaker 1: So there are all these things that they can.
• 8:10
  Speaker 2: Find upsides to in what they have added to their offense.
• 8:14
  Speaker 2: The question would be, is that going to work against
• 8:17
  Speaker 2: the Seahawks defense, the Rams defense, the Niners, whoever they
• 8:21
  Speaker 2: have to play, you know whatever, and then you know
• 8:24
  Speaker 2: whoever they play in the conference championship were a super
• 8:26
  Speaker 2: Bowl because they're sort of right now finding their ways
• 8:31
  Speaker 2: and all of these They're not excellent at any one of.
• 8:33
  Speaker 1: These things, right.
• 8:34
  Speaker 2: I mean, even against the Commanders, they scored a touchdown
• 8:38
  Speaker 2: on the third.
• 8:38
  Speaker 1: Drive and then you don't hear from them again until
• 8:40
  Speaker 1: the third quarter.
• 8:41
  Speaker 2: Right, So they're very sporadic in what they do, but
• 8:46
  Speaker 2: now they're making other teams at least have to practice
• 8:49
  Speaker 2: against it and have a defense against it.
• 8:52
  Speaker 3: Go with Jeff Mosch from the Inside the Birch Podcast
• 8:55
  Speaker 3: of course, like subscribe Gallo where we get your podcast.
• 8:57
  Speaker 3: I'll you got all of this coverage in Philly Voice
• 8:59
  Speaker 3: as out at Jeff P. Mosher on the Twitter dex
• 9:02
  Speaker 3: platform joining us here all the sports bass Josh Josh
• 9:05
  Speaker 3: Henning along with Peg filling in for Mike Giel on
• 9:07
  Speaker 3: nine seven three ESPN. You know, Jeff indentally because you know,
• 9:11
  Speaker 3: with the offense going into the postseason, for a lot
• 9:14
  Speaker 3: of people talk about how the importance in the postseason
• 9:18
  Speaker 3: is you gotta be able to play fundamental offense, you
• 9:21
  Speaker 3: gotta play defense.
• 9:22
  Speaker 4: Right, So is it as simple as hey? The Eagles are.
• 9:24
  Speaker 3: Zero and four this year when they have two or
• 9:26
  Speaker 3: more turnovers. They're ten to one when they have one
• 9:29
  Speaker 3: or less turnovers. So is as simple as hey, when
• 9:32
  Speaker 3: we get to the postseason, let the defense do what
• 9:35
  Speaker 3: they do.
• 9:35
  Speaker 4: Offense don't lose the game for us.
• 9:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean that's yeah, yes.
• 9:40
  Speaker 2: Right, I mean that was yes, yes, yes, that was
• 9:45
  Speaker 2: the formula last year and I mean continues if you're
• 9:48
  Speaker 2: gonna if you're gonna ask, and I'm not gonna be
• 9:50
  Speaker 2: the only one to say this, which side of the
• 9:52
  Speaker 2: ball over the last few weeks has been the most
• 9:54
  Speaker 2: consistent for the Eagles.
• 9:55
  Speaker 1: It's been the defense and they're rounding into form for sure.
• 9:59
  Speaker 2: Uh and they'll get Jillen carter back and that's their rock.
• 10:03
  Speaker 2: If they get a twenty four point game from their
• 10:07
  Speaker 2: offense or more, then you're like, whoa, Now you're really.
• 10:10
  Speaker 1: Assuming that you can get a twenty four point game.
• 10:12
  Speaker 2: You're probably not turning the ball over, right, because you
• 10:14
  Speaker 2: get more possessions. So yeah, if they limit possessions can
• 10:18
  Speaker 2: score in the mid to upper twenties, then you really
• 10:21
  Speaker 2: like their chances.
• 10:22
  Speaker 1: It's just it feels like, I don't want to say.
• 10:26
  Speaker 2: It's been a while since they faced a really good
• 10:27
  Speaker 2: playoff defense, because there was just a couple of weeks
• 10:29
  Speaker 2: agoing against the Chargers and they didn't perform well.
• 10:31
  Speaker 1: Now, some of that was.
• 10:32
  Speaker 2: Fluky because they turned the ball over five times, but
• 10:35
  Speaker 2: some of those turnovers were just good plays by the Chargers. Too,
• 10:39
  Speaker 2: So I just you know, this Buffalo Bills game will
• 10:43
  Speaker 2: be interesting because the Bills don't have.
• 10:44
  Speaker 1: The greatest defense, but because they can score on pretty
• 10:48
  Speaker 1: much anybody, it does feel.
• 10:49
  Speaker 2: Like you will have score some points to win this game,
• 10:53
  Speaker 2: no matter how good your defense plays.
• 10:55
  Speaker 3: With that being said, there was reports that came out
• 10:58
  Speaker 3: this morning Jeff stating that the expectation is that Jillian
• 11:02
  Speaker 3: Carter and Lane Johnson are going to be back on Sunday.
• 11:05
  Speaker 3: My question is should they be back? You know, you
• 11:08
  Speaker 3: could argue that, hey, John Carter, we don't really need
• 11:11
  Speaker 3: you until the postseason. That was the original concept of
• 11:14
  Speaker 3: him getting the you know, the procedure done right that
• 11:17
  Speaker 3: he was supposed to be ready for the postseason. And
• 11:18
  Speaker 3: then Lane, it's like, hey Lane, you know you've been
• 11:21
  Speaker 3: injured multiple times this year, you know what, take extra
• 11:24
  Speaker 3: two weeks off? So like, is it even smart to
• 11:27
  Speaker 3: have those guys come back for a game on the
• 11:30
  Speaker 3: road in Buffalo and potentially in clement weather.
• 11:34
  Speaker 2: Well, yeah, I mean I do think it's important because
• 11:39
  Speaker 2: they're still seating at stake and you can you could
• 11:43
  Speaker 2: easily you could lose this game if you don't have
• 11:44
  Speaker 2: two of your best players And how good is it
• 11:47
  Speaker 2: to go into the playoffs with one win in your
• 11:51
  Speaker 2: last two games, where if they do decide to rest
• 11:54
  Speaker 2: the starters against Washington and to lose, that is it
• 11:56
  Speaker 2: great to go in on a two game losing streak.
• 11:58
  Speaker 2: I mean, you know, I think it starts with the Bills.
• 12:02
  Speaker 2: You want to play your best players. Plus you want
• 12:04
  Speaker 2: if they were to bit miss both games, that's about
• 12:08
  Speaker 2: six weeks. I mean, how much time and conditioning do
• 12:11
  Speaker 2: you want them to lose?
• 12:12
  Speaker 1: Remember they played Goddard.
• 12:13
  Speaker 2: Last year in the season finale, I think for the
• 12:16
  Speaker 2: first half because he had so much time, and he
• 12:19
  Speaker 2: wound up being the leader in receptions and receiving yards
• 12:22
  Speaker 2: in the postseason. Now, I'm not doing the closet effect
• 12:26
  Speaker 2: thing like saying that because he did that. He did that,
• 12:28
  Speaker 2: But they obviously saw the value in getting his getting
• 12:31
  Speaker 2: him on some grass, you know, and getting his conditioning
• 12:34
  Speaker 2: in there and having him ready for the playoffs.
• 12:37
  Speaker 4: All right, Jeff, time to address the outfit in the room.
• 12:39
  Speaker 4: He's been a topic all show long. Jake Elliott.
• 12:43
  Speaker 6: Two misses on Saturday, really three when you count the
• 12:47
  Speaker 6: other one there, and he just hasn't been the same
• 12:50
  Speaker 6: kicker you know, he's kind of his His accuracy is
• 12:53
  Speaker 6: almost below seventy, which is really unheard of in today's NFL.
• 12:58
  Speaker 6: What's your read on Jake Elliott? Probably too late in
• 13:01
  Speaker 6: the games of bringing a guy off the street. You
• 13:04
  Speaker 6: just cross your fingers and hope he's he is a
• 13:06
  Speaker 6: big game kicker.
• 13:07
  Speaker 4: You just cross your fingers and going.
• 13:08
  Speaker 1: To the playoffs with him. Yeah, I think so.
• 13:12
  Speaker 2: First of all, shout out to the Philadelphia Inquirer editor
• 13:14
  Speaker 2: who headlined Jeff Nyberg story Missy Elliott.
• 13:17
  Speaker 1: That was fantastic. I almost wish I would have thought
• 13:21
  Speaker 1: of it myself.
• 13:23
  Speaker 4: That brings it back to your high school days, right, Jeff.
• 13:25
  Speaker 1: Oh my gosh? Yeah?
• 13:26
  Speaker 2: Absolutely, And then and had you know I was that
• 13:31
  Speaker 2: old beat man.
• 13:34
  Speaker 4: The same age.
• 13:35
  Speaker 2: Okay, all right, So as far as Elliott, though, I mean, listen,
• 13:40
  Speaker 2: my thirty two kickers started kickers in the league.
• 13:43
  Speaker 1: If almost any single one of them had.
• 13:46
  Speaker 2: A track record this year, like Jake Elliott had, what
• 13:49
  Speaker 2: does he got like seven missus eight missus in the
• 13:51
  Speaker 2: last nine or ten weeks, that guy is getting at
• 13:55
  Speaker 2: very least that guy is getting competition, Okay, if not
• 13:58
  Speaker 2: replaced outright, Jake Elliott's different. He's meant a lots in
• 14:02
  Speaker 2: the franchise. I believe Nick Sirianni when he says he's
• 14:08
  Speaker 2: going to not bring in somebody when he says, I
• 14:11
  Speaker 2: have the utmost faith. I'm not sure, but I would
• 14:14
  Speaker 2: imagine the Eagle's plan is to fix Jake Elliott and
• 14:17
  Speaker 2: not replace Jake Elliott, and that if they tried to
• 14:21
  Speaker 2: bring in just someone as an over the shoulder kind
• 14:24
  Speaker 2: of like maybe we'll have this guy in practice, I
• 14:27
  Speaker 2: don't think that would help fix what's ailing Jake Elliott.
• 14:30
  Speaker 2: It might actually make it worse.
• 14:32
  Speaker 6: Well, what's your read on him going for two there
• 14:34
  Speaker 6: at the end of the game.
• 14:36
  Speaker 4: You know, he says it was math.
• 14:37
  Speaker 6: I don't think anyone's scared of Josh Johnson coming down
• 14:40
  Speaker 6: the field multiple times and winning the game for the Commanders.
• 14:43
  Speaker 4: Was that a warning shot.
• 14:44
  Speaker 6: To Jake Elliott?
• 14:45
  Speaker 4: Maybe? Yeah.
• 14:46
  Speaker 1: I was pretty vocal on that in the postgame show.
• 14:48
  Speaker 1: I thought it was a bad idea.
• 14:50
  Speaker 2: I wouldn't have done it. I don't think it was necessary.
• 14:53
  Speaker 2: If anything, you can, I don't think you can hurt
• 14:55
  Speaker 2: your kicker at that point much more, even if he
• 14:57
  Speaker 2: misses the pat because you're gonna he got worked do
• 15:00
  Speaker 2: this week regardless, right, but if he makes it, at
• 15:02
  Speaker 2: least he saw a ball go through the uprights, right right,
• 15:05
  Speaker 2: going for two. Nick Sirianni can talk about the math.
• 15:08
  Speaker 2: Oh you all, I guarantee you I can find a game, uh,
• 15:11
  Speaker 2: whether this year, last year where they were up by
• 15:13
  Speaker 2: that many points and didn't go for two on it?
• 15:16
  Speaker 1: Okay, I mean some people are coming at me like, oh,
• 15:18
  Speaker 1: this is math. Oh you're weak.
• 15:19
  Speaker 2: Oh no, because what happened was you made the team mad,
• 15:23
  Speaker 2: started to fight and then your right guard is underneath
• 15:25
  Speaker 2: a pile of six commanders at one point like that.
• 15:27
  Speaker 1: That was just unnecessary. It's just not necessary.
• 15:31
  Speaker 4: By the way, really quick j.
• 15:33
  Speaker 3: They're fortunate that Steam didn't get suspended. The league came
• 15:37
  Speaker 3: out today. The report from Madam Schefter was that it's
• 15:40
  Speaker 3: just gonna be fine. Well, the league could have turned
• 15:42
  Speaker 3: around and been like, yo, you're suspended. Like then what happens?
• 15:45
  Speaker 3: Then you're like, well, Lane Johnson, welcome back. You're playing
• 15:48
  Speaker 3: next to Matt pryor.
• 15:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 15:50
  Speaker 4: What's what's his reasoning for?
• 15:52
  Speaker 6: Is it just another weird Nick Sirianni like clock management,
• 15:56
  Speaker 6: game management.
• 15:57
  Speaker 2: I really think he just didn't want to put his
• 15:59
  Speaker 2: kicker out there. I think he didn't want to, and
• 16:01
  Speaker 2: and honestly.
• 16:02
  Speaker 1: I don't think he was. I will side with Dick
• 16:04
  Speaker 1: on this.
• 16:04
  Speaker 2: I don't think even if it looks that way, he
• 16:07
  Speaker 2: was trying to rub it in to Washington.
• 16:10
  Speaker 1: I don't think he was trying to make a statement.
• 16:11
  Speaker 1: In fact, the fact that he ran a.
• 16:13
  Speaker 2: Very basic inside zone ye yes, instead of like trying
• 16:17
  Speaker 2: to do rub routes.
• 16:18
  Speaker 1: You know everybody tries to do the rub routes yea, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 16:24
  Speaker 1: So the fact that he just basically he was basically telling.
• 16:27
  Speaker 2: You, I just don't want to put my kicker on
• 16:28
  Speaker 2: the field and I'll.
• 16:29
  Speaker 1: Just run it up the middle. I'm not trying to
• 16:31
  Speaker 1: trying to embarrass.
• 16:31
  Speaker 2: But it wasn't taken that way because they scored, so yeah,
• 16:36
  Speaker 2: So I just I would have ran my kicker out there.
• 16:39
  Speaker 4: I mean, yea.
• 16:40
  Speaker 3: You you can double check with Greg Cosal. Would you
• 16:42
  Speaker 3: guys do the inside of the tape this week on
• 16:43
  Speaker 3: the Inside the Birds platforms, Jeff, But I'm pretty sure
• 16:46
  Speaker 3: that that play that they ran, that rum play was
• 16:49
  Speaker 3: the same exact one that you guys have talk with
• 16:51
  Speaker 3: Cosell about multiple times this year. That has not worked
• 16:55
  Speaker 3: for them in different short yard situations. So it was
• 16:58
  Speaker 3: almost ironic they ran play and it kind of worked
• 17:02
  Speaker 3: because of the fact that it was like almost the
• 17:05
  Speaker 3: entire year they've been running that same play and it
• 17:07
  Speaker 3: hasn't worked.
• 17:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah, And honestly, like a lot like that run, Like
• 17:11
  Speaker 2: a lot of those runs by Saquon was more on
• 17:13
  Speaker 2: Saquon just powering his way into the end zone. I
• 17:17
  Speaker 2: mean some of Saquon's best runs. This is why I'm
• 17:21
  Speaker 2: not like convinced that the run game is back, because
• 17:24
  Speaker 2: the only thing I felt back was Saquon making people
• 17:27
  Speaker 2: miss in that game. There weren't good blocks I should
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: I shouldn't completely there were some good run blocks, and
• 17:32
  Speaker 2: they ran some gap scheme, which is what they've been
• 17:34
  Speaker 2: doing lately.
• 17:35
  Speaker 3: Also, the Jeff the one play one play that they
• 17:39
  Speaker 3: had the big run by Saquon, that was Goddard who
• 17:42
  Speaker 3: did the crack back.
• 17:43
  Speaker 4: That's usually a lot to on that play.
• 17:46
  Speaker 3: So we should also admit that that the Eagles were like, hey, Dallas,
• 17:49
  Speaker 3: we we need you to play the Latsu role here
• 17:52
  Speaker 3: because well, grant Galcatara ain't doing it right.
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: No, certainly not so.
• 18:01
  Speaker 2: Running game and zone outside zone, inside zone. But every
• 18:04
  Speaker 2: once in a while you'll see like alignment pull or
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: a tight end and alignment pull a.
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: Pinpull or hat on half blocking, and the Eagles are
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: doing that a little bit more as well to try
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: to get their un game going.
• 18:16
  Speaker 6: Yeah, like on the Tank Bigsby run, I mean you
• 18:18
  Speaker 6: watch the tape. You see, Uh is that Dickerson all
• 18:21
  Speaker 6: the way down the field?
• 18:23
  Speaker 4: Ye?
• 18:23
  Speaker 6: On that run and that that's kind of reminant of
• 18:26
  Speaker 6: what we saw last year with this team.
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: Uh yeah, except last year what you would see is
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: a lot more zone and like a guy getting into
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: the second level.
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: I have to check the Bigsby one out. I don't
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: know if that was gap or.
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: It was just somebody jumping into the second level, which
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: is a zone run.
• 18:42
  Speaker 3: But either way, jumped into the second level, that was
• 18:44
  Speaker 3: a specific.
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: Right, But if it was pulling around the side they
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: could that might be.
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: It all depends on the on the blocking sketch itself.
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: And then if it's.
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: If he's just kind of double teaming and then climbing
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: to the second level, that tends to be that inside
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: zone climbing.
• 19:02
  Speaker 3: So we're watching the replay right now, me and Pete.
• 19:04
  Speaker 3: It looks like he's just climbing to the second level.
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: So, yeah, that was a pitch to the left.
• 19:08
  Speaker 3: If I'm not mistaken, it was a pitch to the left,
• 19:10
  Speaker 3: but Dickerson didn't come outside the tackle.
• 19:13
  Speaker 4: He kind of stayed his lane.
• 19:15
  Speaker 6: I mean, that's the Lanta Dickerson we know in Love
• 19:17
  Speaker 6: right right, that's the land, that's the that's the athlete
• 19:20
  Speaker 6: that he drafted.
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and this is a this is a zone run.
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: This is outside zone. They're all kind of moving laterally.
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: I'm watching it too, And then yes, they just happened
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: to get good bodies out there, but this is definitely
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: an outside zone run.
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: A pitch and uh, you know big, you know, Yes,
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: Dickerson does a nice job. He climbed. I mean he's
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: still to me, looks a little bit. I don't know him.
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: And Jurgens too, they look a little slower.
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: Like for example, on that run, Jurgens tries to make
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: an angle block on whoever number three is Aluvu and
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: you can you can almost you can almost watch him
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: fully rotate, whereas in the past he was usually like
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: bang bang, like that movement. That's what makes him different
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: and special and unique, just sort of like the way
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: Kelsey was is that they can angle block so well
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: for a guy weighs three hundred pounds. But I still
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: think those two guys are They're playing hard, but they're
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: not They're not playing like they were last year.
• 20:15
  Speaker 3: Jeff, before we let you go, I did want to
• 20:16
  Speaker 3: ask you a question that I've been criticized by Mike Gill,
• 20:19
  Speaker 3: but he's not here to defend himself or stop me
• 20:21
  Speaker 3: from asking you. So I have said in the past,
• 20:25
  Speaker 3: I think part of the criticism out there needs to
• 20:28
  Speaker 3: be laid on Jeff Stoutling because you saw more penalties
• 20:32
  Speaker 3: on the O line on Saturday night. We have seen
• 20:36
  Speaker 3: you know them, you know, I mean, he's the one
• 20:37
  Speaker 3: who pay Listen. I don't think for one minute High
• 20:40
  Speaker 3: Roseen's like, you know what I'm gonna do. I'm gonna
• 20:42
  Speaker 3: do this whether Jeff Stotland likes.
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: It or not.
• 20:43
  Speaker 3: Like I don't think his roster is constructed without his
• 20:46
  Speaker 3: like you know, check mark on some of these guys,
• 20:48
  Speaker 3: and you know some of the You could argue that
• 20:51
  Speaker 3: this is the first time in a long time the
• 20:52
  Speaker 3: depth on the O line is not as good as
• 20:55
  Speaker 3: it used to be in years past, and there have
• 20:57
  Speaker 3: been games where the penalties the execute us is not great,
• 21:01
  Speaker 3: and I just wonder, like, you know, I'm not saying
• 21:04
  Speaker 3: I want just Allen fired or anything, but I'm saying that,
• 21:07
  Speaker 3: you know, I think should be there should be a
• 21:10
  Speaker 3: measure of blame placed on his desk or whatever you
• 21:13
  Speaker 3: want to call it, to say, Hey, you're supposed to
• 21:15
  Speaker 3: be the best O line coach of football, we expect
• 21:18
  Speaker 3: more of your offensive line.
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: A man, you're asking me to get involved in a
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: guilt heading dispute, and I gotta be the mediator to this.
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: The only thing I could say to that, Josh that
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: might counter what you're saying is it is very It's
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: it's tough when you've got.
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: Guys who are not one hundred percent.
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: I think that there's a fair argument to be made
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: that for too many weeks, since he is the run designer,
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: they kept trying to run the same kind of runs
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: and it took him a while to.
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: Get under center. Go gap ski, you do all these things.
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: So if you want to bang him on lack of
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: adjustment in the run game, sooner, but you also have
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: to do as a staff. I mean, he doesn't he's
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: not the be all to end all, he's just the
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: run game designer.
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: I mean that that.
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: Takes oversight as well from Patullo and from Siriani, so
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: that that part maybe you can bang them on. But
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: I think ordinarily though, if this offensive line was just
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: healthier and uh and my a Lota has had penalties
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: and not played well. And I'm not like bad coaching.
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: I just sometimes you just sometimes you just don't have
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: your best year, you know, So I can't explain it either.
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: I've always felt and I'm not saying I think I've
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: talked to you about this before. I've always felt that
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: my Alta is a great story but was a.
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: Little bit like everybody wanted them to be all pro
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: and pro bo last year.
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: I feel like he, as much as anybody else on
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: the line, benefits from Jalen's ability to get out of
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: dodge really quickly, Like they don't have to hold their
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: blocks as longer as say teams with quarterbacks who play
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: in the pocket right right, so they get a little.
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: Bit of a benefit there.
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: And maybe this year where the pocket present or the
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: whole passing game hasn't been as good as reflected on
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: him a little bit. But he just for whatever reason,
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: hasn't been himself.
• 23:07
  Speaker 4: Well, that's predicted.
• 23:08
  Speaker 3: Jeff Moser hinted that in the most classic manner possible
• 23:11
  Speaker 3: here on Football at four Power, by the Inside the
• 23:13
  Speaker 3: Birch Podcast of course, like subscribe a Deallo wherever you
• 23:16
  Speaker 3: get the podcasts, and of course tomorrow Adam Capel will
• 23:19
  Speaker 3: join the Sports Bash and then you want to hear
• 23:22
  Speaker 3: more of Jeff and Adam and aber to check, you
• 23:25
  Speaker 3: gotta jump on the Inside of the Birch podcast because
• 23:26
  Speaker 3: it would be no Sports Bash for Christmas, even Christmas Day.
• 23:30
  Speaker 4: I know we do to stay of.
• 23:31
  Speaker 3: The teams on Christmas Eve, but aside from that, folks
• 23:34
  Speaker 3: didn't follow your work over at Philly Voice. So Jeff,
• 23:38
  Speaker 3: Merry Christmas to you and your family. Hope you have
• 23:40
  Speaker 3: a great week and we will talk to you next
• 23:44
  Speaker 3: Monday here on the Sports Bash.
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: Sounds fun.
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: Merry Christmas, Happy Holidays to all of you guys and
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: all of your great listeners here
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: On ninety seven three