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269: Welcome to Plathville - The Birds and the Bees (S7 E6) · Reality TV Cringe

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Speaker 1: Hello and welcome to Reality TV Cringe. I am one
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Speaker 1: of your hosts, Delia the Redhead, here with my real
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Speaker 2: That's me.
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Speaker 1: We are here to recap the latest episode of Welcome
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Speaker 1: to Plathville, which is popping off and is super exciting
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Speaker 1: ask you before we get into our recap. After watching
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Speaker 1: the episode, did you have any takeaways, any thoughts, any feelings,
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Speaker 1: big feelings that you had to let out, big feelings.
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Speaker 2: I don't know if I got a takeaway. Besides Lydia
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Speaker 2: looks gorgeous. I can't really every dress I can't take it, dude,
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Speaker 2: every single one. I'm just like, fuck you gorgeous.
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Speaker 1: My takeaway is that Veronica is a monster. And as
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Speaker 1: I was watching this, who was trying to read her
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Speaker 1: aura and her energy and her vibes vibe check and
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Speaker 1: my thing was like, what's your astrological sign? Because you're
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Speaker 1: giving Gemini like you're giving toxic, out of control, coddled Gemini.
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Speaker 1: You're also giving some fire signs. You're giving some aries. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: you're giving some aries Mars maybe maybe maybe Scorpio, but no,
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Speaker 1: because with Scorpio they're a bit more reserved. They're definitely plottin. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: for sure, they can definitely be monsters, but they're waiting
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Speaker 1: for the right moment just to sting your ass, whereas
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Speaker 1: Veronica's just barfing her vitriol and her poison and her
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Speaker 1: abuse over everybody and everything. I'm like, what's your sign.
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Speaker 1: I want to know your son's sign. I want to
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Speaker 1: know your moon, I want to know your risings. It
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Speaker 1: is your absolute free radical psycho. I bet she's like fire.
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Speaker 1: She's got to have some fire energy, because that's the
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Speaker 1: kind of for me as a double fire. I'm like,
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Speaker 1: you know, you can get uncontrolled, uncontrollable fast because you're
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Speaker 1: not calming down your flight. There's no anchor, there's no
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Speaker 1: tether to this dimension. You're floating out there in a hailscape. Hodi, girls,
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Speaker 1: that's wrong. You let yourself get possessed by demons. You
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Speaker 1: need to calm down. We need an exercise. And that's
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Speaker 1: my takeaway. Well based, Okay, So without further ado, let's
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Speaker 1: get into the recap of Welcome to Blackfel season seven,
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Speaker 1: episode six, entitled.
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Speaker 2: The Birds and the Bees. Girl this combo.
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Speaker 1: I forgot about Barry because I'm focused so much on
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Speaker 1: Veronica being an absolute demon. Yeah, but like, what's wrong
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Speaker 1: with bear Berry?
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Speaker 2: I don't know if he's like trying to be funny.
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Speaker 1: I think so, but like, is he not aware of
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Speaker 1: some of the conversations that are happening online about how
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Speaker 1: he's giving a little bit of that bread energy, no,
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Speaker 1: a little bit of the pervness? Like has he never
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Speaker 1: heard that about himself? Because wouldn't you try to watch
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Speaker 1: what you're saying. I just felt like it was so
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Speaker 1: inappropriate and weird. Sorry, I'm getting ahead of us, Yeah,
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Speaker 1: getting ahead of our. It was weird.
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Speaker 2: It was cringey. There were some moments where I was
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Speaker 2: laughing and I'm just like, God, but I was like
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Speaker 2: laughing at the absurdity of it because I just can't
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Speaker 2: imagine having a conversation.
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Speaker 1: Like that with my They were talking about boxes.
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Speaker 2: I know, like cooters, I know.
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Speaker 1: Like Perry's stop like, but I mean I also had
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Speaker 1: a million children, so I guess he knows his way.
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Speaker 2: Around a box. I mean you'd have to write yeah, shit.
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Speaker 2: But we start the episode off at the Plath family farm.
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Speaker 2: We have the family doing some landscaping prep in preparation
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Speaker 2: for Lydia's wedding because she's gonna get married there, and
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Speaker 2: we have Isaac. He's so handsome, he is so tall,
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Speaker 2: He's so tall.
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Speaker 1: Tall drink of water. What a handsome youngness.
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Speaker 2: So handsome. We got Isaac, we got Barry. And then
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Speaker 2: we also have Amber and Ethan, who have just returned
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Speaker 2: from their.
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Speaker 3: Awful, tense, abusive, tite marriage Boca, and everyone starts kind
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Speaker 3: of talking some shit subtly about Veronica.
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Speaker 1: Subtly.
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Speaker 2: Well, they're not like calling her a big old nasty bitch.
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Speaker 2: They're just saying like she's.
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Speaker 1: Crazy, right, and they're bringing up how her behavior when
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Speaker 1: Ethan and Amber were in Boca was belittling and degrading, yes,
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Speaker 1: toward Micah. Barry is obviously concerned about what's happening to
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Speaker 1: his son, and even Isaac is just like, I'm sorry.
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Speaker 1: We lived through Olivia, Like we already know what this
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Speaker 1: is like, and I don't want any part of this
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Speaker 1: with Veronica. And if she's going to be coming my
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Speaker 1: family and like bugging my fifteen year old sister and
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Speaker 1: gas lamping Micah, then I'm gonna say something about it.
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Speaker 1: He's like, I will take care of that, and I'm like,
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Speaker 1: oh my god, I love it. He's becoming a man. Definitely,
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Speaker 1: Isaac's becoming a man. I love it.
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Speaker 2: And Isaac says something like I can smell the bullshit,
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Speaker 2: like I know after dealing with Olivia, Like I this
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Speaker 2: is a playbook that's happening, Like I know what's going on.
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Speaker 1: This is stupid.
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Speaker 2: And I was wondering, like, while he was expressing all
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Speaker 2: of this, if that was what the fight was about,
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Speaker 2: because I wonder if, like at the wedding, Isaac starts
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Speaker 2: calling Veronica out on some bullshit and like maybe Micah
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Speaker 2: like is drunkenly trying to defend her God, because he's
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Speaker 2: still trying to work on their relationship for some reason,
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Speaker 2: and maybe that's why they get in a fight.
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Speaker 1: Good call.
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Speaker 2: And then after Isaac beats his ass, maybe Mikeh's like, oh, yeah,
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Speaker 2: I'm wrong.
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Speaker 1: That actually makes sense. I was wondering, Well, when you
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Speaker 1: think about the intervention scene that they show in the
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Speaker 1: mid season trailer where everyone's sitting down with Veronica and
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Speaker 1: telling her that she's a monster, redeemable. Micah does not
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Speaker 1: have a detached nose or any stitches. So this is
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Speaker 1: pre wedding that they have this intervention. Yeah, and then
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Speaker 1: they get to the wedding, and maybe Micah's on his
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Speaker 1: bullshit in defense of Veronica, who's treated everybody terribly, and
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Speaker 1: that is what prompts the fight.
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Speaker 2: That's what I'm wondering.
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Speaker 1: I can see it act because.
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Speaker 2: Isaac is like totally upset about how Mike is being treated.
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Speaker 2: He's upset that Veronica's talking shit to Amber, who is
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Speaker 2: a minor. He's like just frustrated about this whole situation,
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Speaker 2: And like, Barry is annoying to me because I'm like,
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Speaker 2: why don't you just be a dad, Like, why don't
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Speaker 2: you like talk to Micah and ask him how he's doing.
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Speaker 2: Barry doesn't care. Barry's just be bootbopping.
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Speaker 1: I think Barry cares. I just don't think that Barry
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Speaker 1: knows how to be a dad in that way. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: he's being a Disney dad and just kind of being
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Speaker 1: available for when his kids approach him, as opposed to
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Speaker 1: interjecting himself into some problematic situations, whether it's Lydia and
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Speaker 1: this rushed marriage, or whether it's Micah was literally being
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Speaker 1: abused by his partner. Because he's hearing all of this,
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Speaker 1: and it struck me as we were watching the four
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Speaker 1: of them that they had already talked about this, like
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Speaker 1: the family has been talking about Veronica. But for whatever reason,
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Speaker 1: Barry wanted to litigate this on camera, like he wanted
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Speaker 1: to put it all out there so everybody understood what
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Speaker 1: Veronica has been doing, because maybe maybe Barry does intend
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Speaker 1: to confront it at some point. It's trying to make
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Speaker 1: a case as for why. But it's clear to me
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Speaker 1: that everybody has been talking about Veronica.
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Speaker 2: You know. I could see that he was doing that
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Speaker 2: to cover his butt because maybe they learned their lessons
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Speaker 2: from Olivia, because they were kind of like keeping things
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Speaker 2: under wraps when it came to Olivia. Olivia was coming
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Speaker 2: out with these stories and these accusations and stuff, and
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Speaker 2: like Kim and Barry were just kind of keeping quiet
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Speaker 2: to themselves, and like they would occasionally throw jabs to Olivia,
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Speaker 2: but they weren't like calling it out because they were
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Speaker 2: just trying to keep the peace. But I could see
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Speaker 2: this because in this scene, Barry's something to the effect of, like, well,
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Speaker 2: I don't know why Veronica would think that we called
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Speaker 2: her a liar. I've never thought that she was a liar.
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Speaker 2: I've never even said that. I like Veronica. I think
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Speaker 2: she's cool, So he's like doing damage control a little bit,
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Speaker 2: and I could see why. Like Veronica before the season aired,
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Speaker 2: was on Reddit saying all this shit because she looks
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Speaker 2: terrible in this season and it's not the editing, like,
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Speaker 2: it's just her behavior. Yes, And the Plaths are just like,
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Speaker 2: what the fuck's going on with you though? Right?
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Speaker 1: And the Plaths are gonna do what the Plaths know
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Speaker 1: how to do, which is to rally around each other
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Speaker 1: exactly and close in ranks. And so Veronica, you don't
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Speaker 1: have a chance, but you've got Amber upset. You've got
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Speaker 1: Ethan upset, Like Ethan's got your number, and now you're
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Speaker 1: an enemy because you're talking to his ex wife, who
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Speaker 1: he blames everything on I know, which is wrong. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: but like Ethan does not like you, and even Isaac
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Speaker 1: is ready to like confront you about what you're doing
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Speaker 1: to his brother because they've been through like this traumatic
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Speaker 1: thing with Olivia, which is like I feel to me,
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Speaker 1: they're making too much out of that because I feel
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Speaker 1: like Olivia, you know Olivia, and I'm not gonna say
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Speaker 1: it again, but Olivia was in process. Olivia was a
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Speaker 1: young woman. Olivia had some things that she was working through.
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Speaker 1: But like she I think for the most part, she
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Speaker 1: was doing the best that she could. Veronica, on the
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Speaker 1: other hand, is not. Veronica is so deeply emotionally unregulated
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Speaker 1: and does not seem interested in the least in trying
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Speaker 1: to figure out how to curb her abusive tendencies. Like
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Speaker 1: she's proud of the fact that she interrupts Micah, She's
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Speaker 1: proud of the fact that she's calling him a worm
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Speaker 1: and a weak man, like she likes that aspect of herself.
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Speaker 1: I never saw that in Olivia. And so when we
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Speaker 1: get to the conversation in this scene where they're talking
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Speaker 1: about how Teagan is such a great girlfriend and Kaylin
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Speaker 1: is perfect in the family, I'm like, well, is that
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Speaker 1: because these girls are just thoroughly submissive and doing their
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Speaker 1: very best to not cause any waves, whereas Olivia was
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Speaker 1: trying to assert her own power and figure out herself.
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Speaker 1: It was just like that was a little weird to me.
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Speaker 1: What did you think of them saying that?
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Speaker 2: I mean, I could totally see how it could be
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Speaker 2: construed that way, because, like, especially with their like religious
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Speaker 2: background and everything, like, there could be like an element
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Speaker 2: of like these women need to just stay in their
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Speaker 2: lane and shut up and just be submissive and feminine
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Speaker 2: and like not speak their minds. I could see that,
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Speaker 2: But I could also see a point with when Micah
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Speaker 2: and Ethan were talking about Olivia, Like Veronica's talking to
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Speaker 2: a person who actively hates their family and like doesn't
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Speaker 2: like them, hasn't liked them for many years. She has
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Speaker 2: gone on Facebook, not Facebook, but she's gone on Instagram
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Speaker 2: and TikTok outing them and like posting secret recordings and
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Speaker 2: stuff like that. And like, again, there's like truth to
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Speaker 2: some of this, I get it, but like they are
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Speaker 2: coming from a perspective of they love their family. They
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Speaker 2: want people to love their family, and if you want
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Speaker 2: to be married to me or you want to be
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Speaker 2: in a relationship with me, you're gonna have to get
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Speaker 2: along with my family. Because I think Micah or no
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Speaker 2: Isaac's the one that says families first. I'm like, I
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Speaker 2: wouldn't want to be with a woman who didn't like
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Speaker 2: my family and didn't get along with me.
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Speaker 1: And likewise, I will respect and love her family exactly.
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Speaker 1: That's just my value, and that's a fair value, and
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Speaker 1: I like that value. But I just feel like they're
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Speaker 1: in these characterizations, they're being too hard on Olivia because
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Speaker 1: Veronica is not Olivia. Like, Olivia is so much better
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Speaker 1: in every way to me than Veronica, who I just
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Speaker 1: feel like is such a trash person. Yeah, just an awful, mean, terrible, verbally, violent,
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Speaker 1: abusive person. Olivia had her issues, and yeah, she was
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Speaker 1: passive aggressive and sometimes aggressive aggressive, but she was never
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Speaker 1: that that I saw.
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Speaker 2: No, she was definitely more covert, I think, And I
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Speaker 2: to give Olivia credit, like she came from the same
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Speaker 2: world as the Plaths and so like there was a
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Speaker 2: lot of validity to some of the things that she
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Speaker 2: was saying, and like she was I think projecting some
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Speaker 2: of her family bullshit onto the Plaths, which I don't
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Speaker 2: think they necessarily deserved, but she has every right to
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Speaker 2: not like them. Yeah, and she was the one that
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Speaker 2: chose to leave and got out of it, and she's
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Speaker 2: just like done, I'm gonna go swim in the fucking
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Speaker 2: oceans of Croatia.
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Speaker 1: And that's the difference though, Like Olivia's not in the family,
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Speaker 1: but Veronica, you purport to want to be a part
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Speaker 1: of the family act or be with Micah. If you
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Speaker 1: want to be with Micah, then you've got to figure
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Speaker 1: out how to heal the issue with the family, and
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Speaker 1: yet the way not to do that is to talk
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Speaker 1: to somebody who hates the family and is no longer
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Speaker 1: in it by choice.
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Speaker 2: It doesn't make any sense exactly. Yeah, and Ethan says
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Speaker 2: something like, if you want to have friends, you need
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Speaker 2: to be friendly, and he said that a couple times,
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Speaker 2: and that's true. It's like, Veronica, when you're coming out
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Speaker 2: with this hard, nasty energy and you don't want to
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Speaker 2: talk to anybody because they hurt your feelings or whatever, like,
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Speaker 2: you're not gonna have any kind of resolution, and that's
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Speaker 2: why you're gonna have your plath under and you're probably
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Speaker 2: gonna cry. I can't wait to see Anni do. And
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Speaker 2: then we move on to Mike and Veronica at their
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Speaker 2: house in Boca, and we have more of like a
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Speaker 2: continuation of their fight from last episode. I guess they
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Speaker 2: like took some time apart, probably slept in different houses
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Speaker 2: or something to cool off, and so now they're going
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Speaker 2: to talk again. And Veronica wants us to know that
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Speaker 2: she wants to talk to him in a healthy way,
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Speaker 2: and she thinks that they have really good communication. They
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Speaker 2: just need to understand each other. He needs to hear
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Speaker 2: me and my big feelings because I'm coming to him
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Speaker 2: with like honesty and I'm trying to I'm trying to
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Speaker 2: healthily communicate. It's Micah that's the problem.
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Speaker 1: Right, and he just doesn't know how to hold all
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Speaker 1: of my feelings which I constantly regurgitate all over him violently.
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Speaker 1: And I thought that Micah was really insightful in his
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Speaker 1: commentary about Veronica, like having these emotional explosions and just
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Speaker 1: exploding all over him and anybody else until it was
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Speaker 1: all gone inside of her and then she was able
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Speaker 1: to kind of reset and go back to a peaceful
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Speaker 1: space until she was angry again, and then she exploded.
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Speaker 1: And I felt personally like the body language in this
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Speaker 1: scene was very meaningful and important, because again we have
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Speaker 1: Micah shrinking away, leaning his whole body away from Veronica
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Speaker 1: who's leaning into him. And I'm just like, you look
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Speaker 1: like an abused man. You look like an abused person
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Speaker 1: who is trying so hard to walk on eggshells within
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Speaker 1: this conversation so you don't set this woman off again crazy.
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Speaker 1: And I feel for him because I think for Micah,
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Speaker 1: he probably has been gas lit into thinking that he's
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Speaker 1: the problem, and in many ways, he is, like, if
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Speaker 1: he cheated, he's a cheater, that's dogshit. You should not
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Speaker 1: have done that. He gave her an STD because he
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Speaker 1: was a cheater. That is absolutely awful. Obviously, Isaac, other
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Speaker 1: than cheating, has not verified a lot of the other
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Speaker 1: things that Veronica has said. But like, if you did that,
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Speaker 1: that is bad. That doesn't negate the fact that Veronica,
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Speaker 1: you chose to stay with him, Yeah, and he chose
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Speaker 1: to stay with you, and he doesn't know how to
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Speaker 1: talk to you. He doesn't feel safe even being around you.
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Speaker 1: In these extremely volatile conversations which you leverage. I feel
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Speaker 1: like she on purpose leverages these conversations and her emotions
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Speaker 1: in order to intimidate him because she wants him to
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Speaker 1: feel as small as possible, because that is how she
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Speaker 1: felt when he cheated on her. And it's just thoroughly toxic.
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Speaker 1: Throw the whole relationship away. You guys do not need
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Speaker 1: to be together. And of course we know they break up,
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Speaker 1: but like watching it right before the whole thing gets
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Speaker 1: burnt down is painful. It's painful for Micah. I'm sure
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Speaker 1: it's painful for Veronica. But because she's acting so horribly,
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Speaker 1: I have absolutely no sympathy for.
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Speaker 2: Her well, and like that's the thing. It's like, obviously
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Speaker 2: no one is justifying his cheating him allegedly giving her
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Speaker 2: an STD, like nobody's justifying any of these actions on Micah.
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Speaker 2: But like Veronica, you can be mad about that, but
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Speaker 2: you don't have a right to like abuse him. You
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Speaker 2: don't have a right to be so aggressive in your
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Speaker 2: speech to call him a spineless worm, a weak little man.
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Speaker 2: You're choosing to forgive him and to work on things
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Speaker 2: in your relationship, and if you actually wanted to do that,
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Speaker 2: then you should reflect that in your actions and in
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Speaker 2: your speech to him. But no, you want to just
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Speaker 2: make him feel like shit more than he already does.
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Speaker 1: You want to punish him, and you feel like you're
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Speaker 1: entitled to have him sit there and take the punishment
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Speaker 1: because he's the first one who hurt you.
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Speaker 2: And she like talks about like she tells him and
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Speaker 2: she tells the cameras and stuff that she has a
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Speaker 2: hard time regulating her emotions. But at the same time,
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Speaker 2: she doesn't want to bottle any of them up. She
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Speaker 2: doesn't want to keep any of them to herself, so
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Speaker 2: she's just gonna spew it and basically Micah, You're just
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Speaker 2: gonna have to deal with it. You're gonna have to
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Speaker 2: deal with me verbally abusing you, because that's just who
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Speaker 2: I am. I'm allowed, strong, outspoken woman, and I'm allowed
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Speaker 2: to have these big feelings. Yeah, exactly, that's what it is.
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Speaker 2: And she talks about like how she's always felt like
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Speaker 2: her feelings are too much, and Olivia felt the same way.
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Speaker 2: So she's being treated the exact same as how Olivia
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Speaker 2: was treated, and it's like, no, sometimes your emotions are
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Speaker 2: too much. People have irrational emotions. Everybody experiences that, but
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Speaker 2: we learn how to regulate, how to be emotionally mature,
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Speaker 2: and learn how to express that in a healthy way.
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Speaker 1: And here she is again co opting Olivia's lived experience
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Speaker 1: right in her marriage that lasted much longer than this
18:57
Speaker 1: punk cast relationship you have with Micah. And then your weapon,
19:00
Speaker 1: your idea of Olivia's experience to use against Micah, Like
19:04
Speaker 1: you don't have a right to do that. Speak from
19:06
Speaker 1: your own space, speak from your own feelings, your own experience,
19:10
Speaker 1: but don't continue to use her, you know, as some
19:13
Speaker 1: sort of stand in for the feelings that you have
19:16
Speaker 1: in order to legitimize them. Yes, yeah, no, we don't
19:20
Speaker 1: do that. That doesn't work. It's not fair.
19:22
Speaker 2: And like anytime Micah tries to express to her that
19:26
Speaker 2: like her emotions are hurtful because she is just spewing
19:30
Speaker 2: all of this hateful, awful, toxic shit to him constantly,
19:34
Speaker 2: she will say something like, well, yeah, like when I'm angry,
19:37
Speaker 2: I say some things that I probably shouldn't, but like
19:39
Speaker 2: I'm angry, so like I'm allowed to just express my anger.
19:42
Speaker 1: You're not.
19:43
Speaker 2: It's like you just justify your bullshit. Like she cannot
19:46
Speaker 2: see that she is wrong and she's manipulative when she says, yeah,
19:51
Speaker 2: I say things that I probably shouldn't, but I'm gonna
19:53
Speaker 2: say it anyway, and you're just gonna have to deal
19:55
Speaker 2: with it because that's my fiefe's and you're gonna have
19:58
Speaker 2: to nalidate it.
19:59
Speaker 1: And this is why we have her completely setting out
20:01
Speaker 1: online on Reddit and on Instagram, because I think she
20:06
Speaker 1: got dumped because she's an abuser and Micah finally got
20:09
Speaker 1: the strength to walk away.
20:10
Speaker 2: Yep.
20:10
Speaker 1: And here again, like you had a very valid message
20:13
Speaker 1: about Micah and the things that he did that were wrong,
20:16
Speaker 1: but like you've completely invalidated your argument and your position
20:20
Speaker 1: by behaving like a devil and a nightmare yep.
20:23
Speaker 2: And then you want to use Instagram therapy speak to
20:26
Speaker 2: continue to belittle him, to try and justify your actions,
20:30
Speaker 2: and like I think she says something like I'm in
20:33
Speaker 2: fireflight around the plaths and he's like why, and she
20:37
Speaker 2: just doesn't have an answer. It's like, you can't justify
20:41
Speaker 2: your irrational feelings, which means they're irrational and they're crazy
20:44
Speaker 2: and they are too much. You are too much, m m,
20:47
Speaker 2: and maybe you should learn to tone it down a
20:48
Speaker 2: little bit. I just can't. I just I felt bad
20:51
Speaker 2: for Micah, and like I shouldn't feel bad for a
20:53
Speaker 2: guy who's a cheater and like allegedly gave her an STD,
20:56
Speaker 2: but I feel bad because of how you're acting towards him.
21:00
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I mean, let me just be the problematic
21:02
Speaker 1: person on the podcast when I bring up the fact
21:05
Speaker 1: that he was living in la she was living in Florida.
21:08
Speaker 1: I'm not sure what the terms of their relationship was.
21:11
Speaker 1: I mean, maybe he was leading her on a little bit,
21:14
Speaker 1: and maybe she was. She had stars in her eyes
21:17
Speaker 1: because it's Mica and he's beautiful. But like it happened
21:20
Speaker 1: at the very beginning of the relationship when they weren't
21:22
Speaker 1: even in the same place together. Then they got in
21:24
Speaker 1: the same place, and then he traveled for work to
21:26
Speaker 1: New York and otherwise. Remember when he went to watch
21:29
Speaker 1: What Happens Live, Yeah, and he saw Andy Cohen and
21:33
Speaker 1: Andy Cohen was flirting with him on the show, and
21:36
Speaker 1: then he cheated when he was in New York. And
21:38
Speaker 1: I'm just kind of wondering to myself, like, was it
21:40
Speaker 1: with Andy? Oh my god, was it with Andy Cohen? Anyway? So, yeah,
21:44
Speaker 1: that's all bad, But it sounds like in the beginning
21:46
Speaker 1: of the relationship things were just a little bit murky maybe,
21:50
Speaker 1: but then once he moved in or once he made
21:51
Speaker 1: a formal commitment, things changed. I'm not giving him a pass.
21:56
Speaker 1: It's still not good. And he was texting people, but
21:58
Speaker 1: I'm just like, I don't trust her. She's not a
22:02
Speaker 1: reliable narrator. And then when we get the preview of her,
22:05
Speaker 1: like not allowing Micah to even be in the presence
22:08
Speaker 1: of Teagan because of some OnlyFans stuff like, I'm just like, girl,
22:12
Speaker 1: you can't control everything. I realize you're anxiously attached in
22:16
Speaker 1: your life, but you can't control other people. The only
22:18
Speaker 1: thing you control is.
22:19
Speaker 2: Yourself, yep, and you give yourself no credit when you
22:23
Speaker 2: are lying, like with the teak and stuff with the
22:25
Speaker 2: only fans, like girl, please shut up. I just can't
22:29
Speaker 2: with her. And then we shift gears and we go
22:32
Speaker 2: wedding dress shopping with Lydia.
22:33
Speaker 1: We don't need to spend a ton of time on this,
22:35
Speaker 1: do we not?
22:36
Speaker 2: Really? I mean, the only thing that was interesting was
22:39
Speaker 2: like when Kim had Lydia try on her wedding dress.
22:43
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, which Lydia looked beautiful in, I mean, just
22:47
Speaker 2: gorgeous in every dress that she tries on. But I
22:49
Speaker 2: couldn't help. But wonder if Kim was like feeling like,
22:54
Speaker 2: oh my God, like I can't believe my daughter is
22:57
Speaker 2: like getting married in the same kind of way that
22:59
Speaker 2: I did, door like Zach who probably won't be good
23:03
Speaker 2: at it, Like I wonder when she was wearing Kim's
23:06
Speaker 2: wedding dress, Kim was like seeing her life flash before
23:09
Speaker 2: her eyes and regretting it because you raised Lydia to
23:13
Speaker 2: be this way.
23:15
Speaker 1: I wonder. I mean, I think there are a lot
23:17
Speaker 1: of things Kim would like to say, but she probably
23:20
Speaker 1: feels she doesn't have the family credit to say yeah,
23:23
Speaker 1: because she's discredit her discredited herself with her behavior, with
23:28
Speaker 1: leaving Barry, with being a drunk, and with having an
23:31
Speaker 1: adulter this affair, So she can't really counsel Lydia on
23:35
Speaker 1: like what she needs to do in a relationship because
23:38
Speaker 1: she again has no credit, so kind I kind of
23:41
Speaker 1: felt for Kim a little bit, like she's just trying
23:43
Speaker 1: to be there for Lydia. Lydia's gonna do this whether
23:46
Speaker 1: you approve of it or not, and so she's trying
23:48
Speaker 1: to be supportive. But I do think there was a
23:51
Speaker 1: lot that she wanted to say. And then of course
23:54
Speaker 1: we had Mariah being like two hours late, I know,
23:57
Speaker 1: which I thought was really strange. And I think I
24:01
Speaker 1: mentioned a couple of episodes ago that I kind of
24:04
Speaker 1: sniff some substance abuse, and of course we've seen Mariah
24:07
Speaker 1: drinking in this season, and it just feels like there's
24:11
Speaker 1: something more. I know, somebody in the comments of her
24:14
Speaker 1: YouTube was talking like opiates or like other substances like that,
24:18
Speaker 1: and I don't know, but I'm just like, how are
24:20
Speaker 1: you going to show up two hours late to like
24:23
Speaker 1: the sister that you're the closest to like she's gonna
24:27
Speaker 1: get married, like this special day, you're gonna be this late,
24:30
Speaker 1: and then you're gonna kind of shit on it all
24:32
Speaker 1: because you don't believe in marriage and you don't believe
24:35
Speaker 1: in wedding dresses and you don't like them. I'm like,
24:37
Speaker 1: what has happened to Mariah? Like I feel very concerned
24:42
Speaker 1: about her trajectory?
24:44
Speaker 2: Me too in life, me too, And like maybe she's
24:48
Speaker 2: depressed because maybe mister potato head like did some bad
24:51
Speaker 2: shit to her. I don't know what their relationship was like,
24:54
Speaker 2: but like the fact that you have Mariah in her
24:57
Speaker 2: like goth phase and she is depressed and she's like
25:01
Speaker 2: I hate love. I don't believe in love. I'm like, dude,
25:05
Speaker 2: you're like mentally broken right now. I mean, I hope
25:09
Speaker 2: Montana's gonna be great for her, but like I'm worried, dude,
25:12
Speaker 2: I'm really worried. And the only other thing that came
25:15
Speaker 2: out of this scene was Kim also expressing to the
25:18
Speaker 2: camera that this whole wedding is rushed and nobody feels
25:23
Speaker 2: like they know Zach or they can get to know
25:25
Speaker 2: him at all. Kim doesn't feel like she knows him
25:28
Speaker 2: well enough Barry doesn't know him well enough, but Lydia
25:32
Speaker 2: probably doesn't know him well enough. And I'm just like, yeah, Kim,
25:35
Speaker 2: well this is your parenting though, Like, this is a
25:39
Speaker 2: direct result of the indoctrination that you gave to all
25:41
Speaker 2: of your kids. Luckily, some of the older ones pave
25:45
Speaker 2: their own way and realize all that shit was bullshit.
25:48
Speaker 2: But Lydia was praying in a closet the whole time,
25:51
Speaker 2: and you thought that was great. And now she's doing
25:54
Speaker 2: what you programmed her to.
25:55
Speaker 1: Do, right, And I can just imagine how Kim feels
26:00
Speaker 1: like knowing the path that Lydia is taking, which is
26:04
Speaker 1: the same path that she took and how it didn't
26:07
Speaker 1: work out. And I also think with Mariah, it's not
26:10
Speaker 1: just Potato Head and the relationships that she had that failed,
26:13
Speaker 1: but she also saw her parents, Yeah, and their twenty
26:16
Speaker 1: five year relationship just completely fall apart and the complete
26:20
Speaker 1: implosion of her family. So yeah, she doesn't believe in
26:23
Speaker 1: weddings and marriages and symbols of love like that because
26:27
Speaker 1: she probably doesn't really have faith in love generally.
26:31
Speaker 2: Yeah, I wouldn't blame her, yeah at all. And speaking
26:34
Speaker 2: of Mariah, we have Amber, We have this like little scene,
26:37
Speaker 2: and it's when Mariah, I guess, is leaving for Montana.
26:41
Speaker 2: She's leaving a month before Lydia's wedding because she just
26:43
Speaker 2: wants to get the fuck out of Dodge, and she's
26:46
Speaker 2: packing all of her shit, and we have Amber and
26:48
Speaker 2: her have like a little conversation. Amber seems to kind of,
26:52
Speaker 2: in my opinion, be a little worried about Mariah, but
26:55
Speaker 2: like she's trying to advocate for her. They talk a
26:57
Speaker 2: little bit about Veronica and how they're they've both shared
27:00
Speaker 2: some nasty experiences with her and they both don't like
27:03
Speaker 2: that bitch. And Mariah's just like, yeah, I just want
27:07
Speaker 2: to leave.
27:08
Speaker 1: I just want like a fresh star.
27:09
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go to Montana with my many many many
27:12
Speaker 2: job interviews that I have lined up, but I don't
27:15
Speaker 2: have a job lined up. I just have a place
27:17
Speaker 2: to stay. And I'm just like, what do you mean
27:20
Speaker 2: I'm worried about her? Dude?
27:22
Speaker 1: Oh my god, if that was my daughter, I would
27:24
Speaker 1: be so scared for her. And so like watching Barry
27:28
Speaker 1: just send her off with all this celebration and like
27:31
Speaker 1: not just like giving her some sort of a tracker
27:35
Speaker 1: or like putting some sort of tag on her car
27:39
Speaker 1: or like, I don't know, girl, Like you're just going
27:41
Speaker 1: to a place where you've never been before, to a
27:44
Speaker 1: culture that you've never experienced before. And I can understand
27:47
Speaker 1: the sense of adventure. And again I said this a
27:50
Speaker 1: couple episodes ago, like if I could have done that,
27:52
Speaker 1: gone to Montana as a young woman, so so fantastic.
27:57
Speaker 1: But so I appreciate her wanting to do that, but
27:59
Speaker 1: I'm questioning why it's happening, and I'm just wondering, and
28:03
Speaker 1: I'm wondering if anybody else is also thinking this, Like
28:06
Speaker 1: is there a dude?
28:06
Speaker 2: There?
28:07
Speaker 1: Is she talking to somebody online? Has she met a
28:11
Speaker 1: new person? Because I see her pictures in Montana she
28:15
Speaker 1: looks really happy, but she's not taken those pictures. Who
28:18
Speaker 1: is Yeah, is it a dude? What's happening in your life?
28:22
Speaker 1: For real? And I see just Mariah going down this
28:26
Speaker 1: road of secrecy that we've seen the Browns go down
28:29
Speaker 1: and some of the Plaths go down, just like not
28:31
Speaker 1: telling the full truth. But at the same time, maybe
28:36
Speaker 1: she can't because she's so mentally and emotionally troubled right now,
28:42
Speaker 1: like she's not connected to the inner workings of her
28:45
Speaker 1: own self, so she can't really talk about it. But like,
28:47
Speaker 1: I'm just worried about her. I'm really worried about her.
28:49
Speaker 2: I'm really worried about her because I think that's when
28:51
Speaker 2: she loses all of her hair in Montana. Yeah, because
28:54
Speaker 2: she's still in Montana. I think, Yeah, I believe so
28:57
Speaker 2: the Internet and stuff. So like you move to Montana
29:00
Speaker 2: for this new start and then all of your hair
29:02
Speaker 2: falls out and you have no family or any support system,
29:05
Speaker 2: and I wonder you may prick up a a point
29:08
Speaker 2: like what if she is there for a dude? Ugh.
29:11
Speaker 2: I just feel like she's going down this like terrible
29:13
Speaker 2: path because again, like her parents didn't prepare her for
29:17
Speaker 2: the real world and like didn't teach her how to
29:19
Speaker 2: find like a good person to be around. So she's
29:22
Speaker 2: going after like unhealthy relationship after unhealthy relationship, and I
29:27
Speaker 2: worry about her mental state. And again with Barry just
29:30
Speaker 2: like sending her off being all happy, go lucky. This
29:33
Speaker 2: is why he's annoying me this season. Yeah, because he's
29:35
Speaker 2: not like pushing back in a way a dad should.
29:39
Speaker 2: You're not questioning Zach on anything. You're actually wanting him
29:42
Speaker 2: to bang your daughter out and pop out baby her. Yeah,
29:46
Speaker 2: and you don't even know this guy. You're sending Mariah
29:49
Speaker 2: off to Montana where there's literally no support system for
29:53
Speaker 2: her at all, but you're like, have fun bye. Yeah,
29:56
Speaker 2: you're not talking to Micah about him being abused by Ironica.
30:00
Speaker 2: You're just like, Yeah, that sucks. Then that's it. It's
30:04
Speaker 2: just like Barry, you suck. Sometimes it's so annoying.
30:07
Speaker 1: He's just emotionally disconnected. Yea and Amber told Veronica, I
30:12
Speaker 1: think in the last episode that they were a family
30:15
Speaker 1: of thinkers, and I really think that that originates with Barry,
30:19
Speaker 1: Like he doesn't. I'm sure he feels something, but I
30:22
Speaker 1: just feel like he's not connected to those feelings. And
30:24
Speaker 1: so this is his approximation of what a feeling person
30:28
Speaker 1: would do, like, Oh, I'm just going to support my daughter,
30:31
Speaker 1: like I'm going to show up in a way that
30:34
Speaker 1: that will appear supportive because he doesn't. He doesn't have
30:37
Speaker 1: that innate knowledge of what a father should do and
30:40
Speaker 1: be in a feeling way, and that is what Mariah needs.
30:43
Speaker 1: I don't know if she would accept it at this point,
30:45
Speaker 1: but that is literally what she needs, and what she
30:48
Speaker 1: doesn't have is a good example from a parent.
30:51
Speaker 2: I agree. And now she just going to Montana and
30:53
Speaker 2: I wish her the best, Like, I hope she has
30:55
Speaker 2: the best time there. I hope she finds herself. I
30:57
Speaker 2: hope she finds peace and finds you a cowboyhood, finds
31:01
Speaker 2: you a nice cowboy. It treats you, right, That's all
31:04
Speaker 2: I want. But I'm really worried about her, I really am.
31:07
Speaker 2: And then the last scene is the cringiest scene of
31:10
Speaker 2: them all, where Barry, Kim, Zach, and Lydia all share
31:15
Speaker 2: a bunch of champagne and talk about fucking apparently why.
31:20
Speaker 2: I just don't understand.
31:21
Speaker 1: Why are we doing that?
31:22
Speaker 2: Why? Why this? It's so cringey because Lydia just turned
31:28
Speaker 2: twenty one, and like I think this is probably like
31:31
Speaker 2: a couple weeks before their wedding because they get married
31:35
Speaker 2: in February, like just after her birthday. So they're all
31:38
Speaker 2: sharing champagne. And this is where Barry and Kim find
31:42
Speaker 2: it appropriate to like ask them, you know how to
31:46
Speaker 2: fuck though?
31:47
Speaker 1: You know what fucking is? You know men and women
31:50
Speaker 1: fuck men, fuck people?
31:52
Speaker 2: Fuck? You know what a penis is, Lydia.
31:53
Speaker 1: You know you've got a vagina, right, you know.
31:55
Speaker 2: That you're biologically hardwired and programmed and built.
31:59
Speaker 1: And crack and crafted at this time in your life
32:02
Speaker 1: quickly crafted? What was that biologically crafted to have children?
32:09
Speaker 2: Now? Stop?
32:11
Speaker 1: It was like, are you talking about her fertility?
32:14
Speaker 2: Though?
32:15
Speaker 1: He feels like you're talking about her ability to opulate
32:18
Speaker 1: her fertility and it's giving weird. And you're talking about
32:23
Speaker 1: her twenties being her like fertile time. I'm just like,
32:26
Speaker 1: this is a time not what any young woman, much
32:29
Speaker 1: less her partner, wants to hear from her dad. I know,
32:32
Speaker 1: talking about like the ideal circumstances to become impregnated. Barry,
32:36
Speaker 1: what are you doing just because you want a grandkid?
32:40
Speaker 1: Maybe baby rabies?
32:41
Speaker 2: I mean, hey, look, you are always telling me where's
32:44
Speaker 2: my grandchildren? And you're always asking if we're fucking who?
32:48
Speaker 1: Don't like you're almost thirty, I.
32:50
Speaker 2: Know, see here you are telling me about you brought
32:54
Speaker 2: it up.
32:54
Speaker 1: You brought it up though.
32:57
Speaker 2: I feel like Barry was kind of giving me like
32:59
Speaker 2: I think he was trying to be funny, but he
33:01
Speaker 2: doesn't know how to be because he's a literal robot
33:04
Speaker 2: and he doesn't understand how humans talk and act. He's
33:08
Speaker 2: just being so weird. And like in him and Kim's
33:11
Speaker 2: talking heads, he's like making sexual innuendos and jokes and stuff,
33:16
Speaker 2: and I just like, I can't. But I was laughing
33:20
Speaker 2: about it though, because I think Kim says something like,
33:24
Speaker 2: you know, Lydia has to know that there's ways to
33:26
Speaker 2: prevent pregnancy, right, like maybe I'll have to have a
33:29
Speaker 2: talk with her, and Barry's like, yeah, you'll have to
33:31
Speaker 2: educate her orally, and then everybody laughs.
33:34
Speaker 1: But I'm like, that's why are you laughing. I'm like,
33:37
Speaker 1: that's like incestuous.
33:39
Speaker 2: I I just can't, but they all bust up laughing.
33:45
Speaker 2: I feel like Kim was the only one that felt
33:47
Speaker 2: awkward because I feel like Barry never pleasured her With.
33:50
Speaker 1: Kim, right, I thought, well, you never know what those
33:53
Speaker 1: kind of guys sometimes they're magical at it. But I
33:55
Speaker 1: just felt it was kind of funny watching Kim because
33:57
Speaker 1: she did not know what to say, She did not
34:00
Speaker 1: know what she could say, she didn't know what her
34:02
Speaker 1: standing with Barry was in order to say anything, so
34:04
Speaker 1: she just kind of stood there. I was just like,
34:07
Speaker 1: I don't know what's happening right now, and Yarry was
34:10
Speaker 1: just being super goofy and everybody was laughing.
34:12
Speaker 2: Well, and I'm just like wondering because at this point
34:15
Speaker 2: in time, like, I think Kim's the only one that's
34:17
Speaker 2: had sex outside of their marriage because she fucked Ken
34:21
Speaker 2: Palmer or something. But like, I don't think Barry is
34:23
Speaker 2: out here fucking and sucking right now. I think he's
34:25
Speaker 2: just keeping himse up.
34:26
Speaker 1: But maybe maybe he is.
34:27
Speaker 2: Maybe he's a lothario.
34:29
Speaker 1: He's talking about wanting to find somebody who's fit and
34:32
Speaker 1: active and has a sense of humor, So maybe that
34:35
Speaker 1: means he's already on the tinder, like swiping left or
34:38
Speaker 1: right or whatever these kids do. Well, Yeah, he's the
34:41
Speaker 1: man who's got me and stuff. And I'm just wondering.
34:45
Speaker 1: As I was watching Barry and Kim, I'm like, is
34:48
Speaker 1: there a world where you guys are just meeting up occasionally?
34:52
Speaker 1: I want to bang it out?
34:54
Speaker 2: I wondered that too. I'm wondering if they're like hooking up.
34:58
Speaker 1: I feel like Kim wouldn't mind, Oh she would love it.
35:02
Speaker 1: I think Barry's like pass a Dina, pass a Diana.
35:07
Speaker 2: Barry looks at her and her sugar body and he's like, nah,
35:10
Speaker 2: no way. But Kim is probably looking at Barry all
35:13
Speaker 2: jacked and shit.
35:14
Speaker 1: Well, she's seeing things differently. Yeah, now that she don't
35:17
Speaker 1: have no buddy. Now she's renting a home and she
35:20
Speaker 1: can't afford a lawyer. She's putting it on credit cards.
35:23
Speaker 1: Now Barry's starting to look better than he used.
35:25
Speaker 2: To look, and Ken left her ask so what is
35:27
Speaker 2: she going to do?
35:28
Speaker 1: Well, she's trying to make it work.
35:29
Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess you're trying to get.
35:30
Speaker 1: Back in with Barry, do you think. I don't know.
35:34
Speaker 1: I had a vision of, like next season, Barry going
35:38
Speaker 1: out on a date and the camera's following him and
35:41
Speaker 1: it's a date with Kim. I actually had that in
35:44
Speaker 1: my mind, Like I wonder.
35:46
Speaker 2: I would pass away because that would be so.
35:48
Speaker 1: Crazy, it would be crazy. I would love it that
35:50
Speaker 1: they just like get back together. I mean they start dating.
35:53
Speaker 2: I mean they're still spending a lot of their time
35:55
Speaker 2: together because they're trying to co parent and they're like
35:57
Speaker 2: doing family things together. And I mean, honestly, like, I
36:01
Speaker 2: feel like there could have been a whirld where Kim
36:03
Speaker 2: could have avoided this whole midlife crisis. Her and Barry
36:06
Speaker 2: could have talked some things out. Maybe they could have
36:08
Speaker 2: gone to sex therapy or something, and they could have
36:11
Speaker 2: had a sexual renaissance maybe, or like a renaissance in
36:15
Speaker 2: their marriage, and it could have worked out because they
36:17
Speaker 2: had all these years together, they had all these children together.
36:20
Speaker 2: And she ruined it.
36:23
Speaker 1: She did, and then she stepped out and she saw
36:25
Speaker 1: that the grass was not always greener. I had the
36:28
Speaker 1: same experience, what should we go uncensored? Cons back from uncensored.
36:35
Speaker 1: So maybe Kim thought the grass was going to be
36:38
Speaker 1: greener out there and that there were going to be
36:41
Speaker 1: guys that had it better than Burry. But like, maybe
36:44
Speaker 1: nobody makes money like Barry. Yeah, maybe nobody has the
36:49
Speaker 1: anatomy that Barry. Maybe nobody eats the box like Barry does.
36:55
Speaker 1: And so now you had to learn the hard way. Kim.
36:57
Speaker 1: Now you're trying to insert yourself back into the city,
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Speaker 1: but you can't fit.
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Speaker 2: Can't.
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Speaker 1: No, you can't fit.
37:03
Speaker 2: She especially can't.
37:04
Speaker 1: You can't get back go through that, That's right.
37:07
Speaker 2: She did. Yeah, But I was just like this whole
37:09
Speaker 2: scene with Kim and Barry was just interesting. Like I
37:11
Speaker 2: feel like Barry was more comfortable. He was just being
37:15
Speaker 2: weird and goofy, and maybe he was drunk on champagne.
37:17
Speaker 2: I don't fucking know he was being odd. Kim felt
37:20
Speaker 2: awkward to me, and Kim did make a comment I
37:23
Speaker 2: don't know if you caught it to Lydia where she
37:25
Speaker 2: was just like, I just want to make sure that
37:27
Speaker 2: you know how to fuck or whatever, because I don't
37:29
Speaker 2: want people to think that they're watching that we just
37:32
Speaker 2: like raised all these kids to live inside this box.
37:36
Speaker 2: And it just spoke to me that Kim is aware
37:38
Speaker 2: of the camera, she's aware of the criticism of how
37:42
Speaker 2: they raised their children, and she's trying to be like, no,
37:45
Speaker 2: but like we did prepare them though, like don't listen
37:48
Speaker 2: to Ethan when he said I didn't tell them about
37:50
Speaker 2: sex or anything. Don't listen to Hoseanah while Hoseanah doesn't
37:54
Speaker 2: say nothing, but like, they'll listen to my other kids,
37:56
Speaker 2: like we did good. Lydia, right, you know how sex works.
38:01
Speaker 1: But it struck me that Lydia really didn't. No, like
38:05
Speaker 1: Lydia does not know what to expect on her wedding night.
38:08
Speaker 1: She understands I've got a vagina and he's got a pen.
38:13
Speaker 1: The pen goes into the vagina. But that's the extent
38:16
Speaker 1: of her sexual education. And I'm worried about her.
38:20
Speaker 2: I'm worried about her too, and Kim does say like
38:23
Speaker 2: something like I feel like a mom would say, just
38:25
Speaker 2: like you can talk to me though, like we can
38:27
Speaker 2: have girl time and if you like have any questions
38:30
Speaker 2: or issues or whatever, you can you can talk to me.
38:33
Speaker 2: And I feel like Lydia was like, no, mom, you're
38:35
Speaker 2: a drunk, cheating adulterer, Like why would I talk to you.
38:39
Speaker 2: I feel like Lydia just doesn't give a shit about
38:42
Speaker 2: what her mom has to say. And it's unfortunate because
38:44
Speaker 2: it's Kim's fault. But like, I worry about Lydia and
38:48
Speaker 2: her marriage to this nice man, Zach.
38:52
Speaker 1: Well, And ironically, Kim could probably impart a lot of
38:57
Speaker 1: information yeah to Lydia, based on all the mistakes that
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Speaker 1: she made in her life exactly. But it's that divide
39:05
Speaker 1: between parent and child, and especially if you've blown it
39:07
Speaker 1: as a parent, exactly, you've lost.
39:09
Speaker 2: All credibility with the child. And now Lydia is going
39:12
Speaker 2: to have to figure it out on her own. And like,
39:14
Speaker 2: luckily with Lydia, she has the Internet, so maybe she
39:17
Speaker 2: can google some stuff, maybe she can read some smut
39:19
Speaker 2: and realize, like, oh, this is what I'm missing maybe,
39:22
Speaker 2: but like when Barry starts pressuring them about kids and stuff,
39:25
Speaker 2: He's like, bring on the grand children. I want babies, Like,
39:29
Speaker 2: let's go, you're biologically ready. We have like this segment
39:32
Speaker 2: with Lydia and Zach, like I think, and they're talking
39:34
Speaker 2: head being like no, we're gonna wait, and Lyddya's like, well,
39:38
Speaker 2: but like I want to have kids though, and Zach's
39:40
Speaker 2: just like awkward, like he doesn't say anything, and I'm
39:44
Speaker 2: just like, I wonder what their sex life is, like,
39:48
Speaker 2: I don't know, I'm worried about it. I'm just gonna
39:51
Speaker 2: say that I'm just worried about it.
39:52
Speaker 1: Agreed.
39:53
Speaker 2: And then we get to the preview and we have
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Speaker 2: Lydia and Zach visiting Micah and Veronica why down in Boca,
40:01
Speaker 2: and Veronica makes a comment about like how she doesn't
40:05
Speaker 2: even want to go to the wedding and she hopes
40:07
Speaker 2: that they don't light any fires at the wedding.
40:10
Speaker 1: I'm like, Okay, this is foreshadowing NonStop drama. It's like constant,
40:14
Speaker 1: and it's Lydia's upcoming nuptials. Can't you just be supported?
40:20
Speaker 2: She can't because she's bitter. And then we have Teagan, Caylin, Ethan,
40:24
Speaker 2: and Isaac doing like a double date or whatever. And
40:27
Speaker 2: this is where like Ethan, I think, draws a little
40:30
Speaker 2: naked photo of Teagan. And then we have like another
40:36
Speaker 2: scene where Micah apparently called Ethan to tell him that
40:41
Speaker 2: Veronica was starting some rumors about Teagan having an only fans,
40:47
Speaker 2: which pissed Ethan off. Ethan hangs up the phone with
40:50
Speaker 2: Micah and then calls Teagan immediately. And I think this
40:53
Speaker 2: is what causes a rift between Teagan and Veronica, because
40:57
Speaker 2: I don't think Teagan's out here show a hole on
41:00
Speaker 2: because I don't think she's.
41:02
Speaker 1: I had no idea. But then we have this scene
41:06
Speaker 1: in the preview with Veronica and Micah at a counselor
41:11
Speaker 1: or a therapy appointment, and Veronica is talking about how
41:15
Speaker 1: Micah went up online and started looking for nude photos
41:19
Speaker 1: of Teagan. Yeah, so it almost kind of gives that
41:22
Speaker 1: there are existing nude photos of Teagan, which would be
41:26
Speaker 1: wild if she had an OnlyFans. But like, also, sex
41:29
Speaker 1: work is real work. She don't saying anything, but like,
41:32
Speaker 1: so now Veronica's telling Michael, well, you can never be
41:35
Speaker 1: in Tagan's presence again because you were looking at those
41:38
Speaker 1: nude photos and.
41:39
Speaker 2: Yeah, and she's like you're gonna fuck her, like you
41:42
Speaker 2: can't be around her because you can't control God. Yeah,
41:44
Speaker 2: And I think, like Micah, we will probably see the
41:47
Speaker 2: next episode like their scene and everything. But I think
41:49
Speaker 2: Micah is trying to say, like, no, you don't understand
41:52
Speaker 2: the context, because maybe he was just like looking it
41:54
Speaker 2: up to see if Veronica's claims were true about the
41:57
Speaker 2: only fans, and then Veronica's like construing it. I don't know, right,
42:01
Speaker 2: somebody's gotten OnlyFans. Maybe I'm curious. Now I'm gonna go
42:04
Speaker 2: look it up.
42:05
Speaker 1: Yeah, and please do and report back to the Raccoons,
42:08
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42:13
Speaker 2: It is so late.
42:14
Speaker 1: If you're not watching because you were disappointed over the
42:17
Speaker 1: last two or three seasons. First, I understand so as
42:20
Speaker 1: that we almost didn't watch this. We I am so
42:23
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42:26
Speaker 1: to the producers, Bravo to Teal.
42:28
Speaker 2: Keep it up.
42:29
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42:32
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42:36
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42:46
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42:48
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