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AEW Hot Topics: Marching toward Revolution · Ignition - an AEW Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Ten nine Ignition sequence five six five four three two
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  Speaker 4: who don't bite, let me throw it back to Kelson.
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  Speaker 2: I do bite.
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  Speaker 3: I used to get in trouble at daycare all the time,
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  Speaker 3: I bite tremendously, not as bad as Berry and Sutton.
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  Speaker 3: I've heard that they're terrible. Listen, is that true?
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  Speaker 5: Not supposed to tell them that was? That was that
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  Speaker 5: was between me and you, dude. I mean, come on,
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  Speaker 5: that's not.
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  Speaker 6: That as much biting is like setting adjusting the settings
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  Speaker 6: and my dentures and you got you know, you need
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  Speaker 6: to get some force on that to make sure I
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  Speaker 6: got the well.
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  Speaker 3: And then of course yeah and MK is and Chris
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  Speaker 3: are the wedgie Kings of the of the podcast. So
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  Speaker 3: but let's move on. We are going to talk about something. Uh.
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  Speaker 3: I think MK brought this up, uh, the fact that
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  Speaker 3: well the International.
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  Speaker 2: Championship was it?
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  Speaker 3: Was it a casualty maybe of the C two because
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  Speaker 3: the championship hasn't been defended in like three months. I
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  Speaker 3: mean there are other championships as well, like the Trio's Championship.
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  Speaker 2: I mean that's only.
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  Speaker 3: Been defended like six times in the last since April
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  Speaker 3: or something like that. Is it a casualty of the
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  Speaker 3: Sea two? That the that the uh, these belts are
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  Speaker 3: not being.
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  Speaker 2: What do you think.
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  Speaker 7: Considering as the old ring who was wrapped up for
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  Speaker 7: the whole Continental Classic? I am wondering after it was
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  Speaker 7: the whole unified belt. I don't even want to get
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  Speaker 7: into how stupid that was with the you're you're one champion,
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  Speaker 7: you're three champion blah blah blah. When he defended that,
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  Speaker 7: would it count as an international defense as well? Because
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  Speaker 7: I'm I feel like he did defend it. You know,
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  Speaker 7: maybe it's a next pay per view after all.
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  Speaker 6: The I think you're highlighting the problem, Chris, is that
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  Speaker 6: nobody cares. That's the point. Nobody cares, because if there's
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  Speaker 6: one problem, not one. A problem with AW is they
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  Speaker 6: have too many titles. And I think when they brought
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  Speaker 6: out the unified title, most fans and I can't speak
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  Speaker 6: for everybody here, but based on what I read online,
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  Speaker 6: thought the unified title was getting rid of the Continental
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  Speaker 6: and getting rid of the International and making one belt
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  Speaker 6: and removing one. You know, but we're wrong.
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  Speaker 2: And now to.
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  Speaker 6: Everybody's point, what do you do with yet another belt
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  Speaker 6: you don't defend on TV on a regular basis, I say, get.
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  Speaker 2: Rid of it.
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  Speaker 6: You got the national title, now too, we have another one.
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  Speaker 6: They added another title for crying out loud. Get rid
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  Speaker 6: of some of these.
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  Speaker 8: Even nothing it makes sense to me more than the
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  Speaker 8: international in my opinion, I'd rather have the national work tour.
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  Speaker 6: I just, I just I need to point this out.
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  Speaker 6: We had an international title. The term is international concept global,
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  Speaker 6: multiple flags on it. What title did they say is
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  Speaker 6: going to be defended internationally and across other promotions? Make
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  Speaker 6: any sense?
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  Speaker 2: Like?
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  Speaker 7: What that is the same problem I have? Like you?
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  Speaker 7: That was literally what the originally all with Laftic. The
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  Speaker 7: title was dumb name, but still that's what it was,
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  Speaker 7: and it worked well with holding it. He went to
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  Speaker 7: other places, they put those up on their YouTube, and
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  Speaker 7: then even when it switched to international, you still had
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  Speaker 7: that a little bit. And then it just became an
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  Speaker 7: AW specific title. And now you've introduced another title. That's
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  Speaker 7: what that title was supposed to be.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, Tony loves the All Japan Triple Crown. He's tried
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  Speaker 6: to recreate it twice now and just let it go
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  Speaker 6: because it was the Triple Crown, because all of them
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  Speaker 6: were always defended together, it was one title. He wants
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  Speaker 6: the Triple Crown, but wants three separate titles, and it's
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  Speaker 6: just like no, just yeah, like I need to see.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, it realistically should be simple world title, you know,
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  Speaker 7: top guys, main event international title, you know, out the
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  Speaker 7: next guy off light. That's where it should be. The
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  Speaker 7: upper mid some mid t and T. Make that a
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  Speaker 7: TV title, have it defended regularly, have it changed hands
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  Speaker 7: on a fairly regular basis, and then the national you
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  Speaker 7: can use as your workforce title. Continent'll get rid of
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  Speaker 7: it and make it where it's like a briefcase like
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  Speaker 7: the g One. You know, winner gets their title match.
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  Speaker 6: I would. I would keep the Continental belt, and it's
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  Speaker 6: just like an own Heart memorial. It's like the own
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  Speaker 6: Heart tournament belt. You're just awarded it after you win
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  Speaker 6: the tournament, like they do the big trophies for the
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  Speaker 6: g One. It's fine, it's just it shouldn't be a
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  Speaker 6: defended title.
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  Speaker 2: No, it shouldn't. It should be.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, well but you defend it in in the classic though.
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  Speaker 6: That's that's fine. What maybe the previous winner or is
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  Speaker 6: an auto entry or whatever. You know, who cares, But
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  Speaker 6: it's not a defended title outside of exactly I agree.
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  Speaker 3: No, I agree the unified titles. You don't barry. You
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  Speaker 3: said something about the unified title that nobody cared about it.
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  Speaker 3: I don't think a lot of people just understood it.
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  Speaker 6: It's really let me clarify. Let me clarify it when
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  Speaker 6: I say nobody cares? It was to your point as like,
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  Speaker 6: when was the last time the International titles defendant or whatever?
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  Speaker 6: Once they brought that thing out, it became so convoluted
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  Speaker 6: that like who cares?
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  Speaker 2: Like just.
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  Speaker 6: I'm venting. I don't know why.
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  Speaker 2: I've got another one for you, Jess.
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  Speaker 3: I want to hear your opinion on this too, because
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  Speaker 3: I saw that you started to break in, but I
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  Speaker 3: wanted to add a little bit more of a fuel
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  Speaker 3: to the fire a little bit. The T and T Championship,
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  Speaker 3: which is a television championship. When was the last time
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  Speaker 3: that was defended on TV? Mark Briscoe beat Kyle Fletcher
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  Speaker 3: for the T and T Championship. Since that time, he's
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  Speaker 3: had one defense against Daniel Garcia. That's it. Briscoe was
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  Speaker 3: not in the in the C two. Uh, why are
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  Speaker 3: we having these belts that are not defended? The Trios
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  Speaker 3: Championship I mentioned earlier is another one that is just
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  Speaker 3: I mean, the defenses on that are not even really good.
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  Speaker 3: They're just kind of thrown together a little bit. I
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  Speaker 3: guess you could say, yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Well I did say, uh, I believe. We were discussing
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  Speaker 4: this last week about all the title belts, and I said, if, like,
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  Speaker 4: if I had to choose one to ax, it would
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  Speaker 4: be the Trio's titles, because like, there's so much potential there,
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  Speaker 4: but not much is really done with them. But to
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  Speaker 4: be fair to Mark, the C two for the last
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  Speaker 4: month or so, it's sort of been clogging up everything.
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  Speaker 4: It sort of dominated the show, which I don't mind.
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  Speaker 4: I love the Sea two. But now that it's over,
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  Speaker 4: we should probably get more back into an even swing
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  Speaker 4: of things and we'll probably see it defended.
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  Speaker 7: He's defending his Saturday to Listen against Thank You.
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  Speaker 2: Well, there you go.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, we've got aw needs to get if they
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  Speaker 3: want to do these belts. There's not a problem doing
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  Speaker 3: these belts, but they've got to make them mean something.
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  Speaker 3: And the only way he can make the mean something
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  Speaker 3: is by having not only title defenses, but meaningful title defenses.
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  Speaker 3: A meaningless belt with meaningless title defenses that are just
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  Speaker 3: thrown together a few days before before Look, look, Mark
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  Speaker 3: Briscoe is defending the TNT title against Etchisaro.
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  Speaker 2: What has done to earn a title shot?
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  Speaker 7: He'd be commander on Coalition and the number one continder
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  Speaker 7: with match.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, okay, but great, okay. What did Commander and
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  Speaker 3: Etchisaro do to earn a number one contendership match?
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  Speaker 2: In my estimation nothing?
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  Speaker 7: They really great rest that are fun to watch.
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  Speaker 6: Sure, Kelson, I want to so, I think I think
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  Speaker 6: you were kind of hitting on I don't know, inadvertently maybe,
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  Speaker 6: But one of the problems Tony has with booking titles
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  Speaker 6: isn't the titles. I don't remember who just said. It's
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  Speaker 6: not the number of titles, it's how he's how he's
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  Speaker 6: handling them. He doesn't like to beat champions there he has.
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  Speaker 6: He has a problem beating champions even when he's not
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  Speaker 6: doing anything with the titles. The trios titles case in point,
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  Speaker 6: there is no trios program for the Ops. The trios
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  Speaker 6: titles would be perfect for the And I've said this
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  Speaker 6: before in the podcast, not that I expect everybody remember
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  Speaker 6: they should be the party belts. You thrown six man
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  Speaker 6: All Star tags like the Castle Runners are there. You
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  Speaker 6: can put together some fun teams of people you don't
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  Speaker 6: have anything else to do with, throw them together, get
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  Speaker 6: him in some programs. But the TNT title is the
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  Speaker 6: TV title to other somebody else's point. It should be
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  Speaker 6: defended and he needs to start hot potatoing. That is
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  Speaker 6: the low card belt. How do you build people up.
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  Speaker 6: You build people up by running them through programs, give
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  Speaker 6: them some wins, give them a short title ring with
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  Speaker 6: a low card belt to see if they get heat
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  Speaker 6: to move them up. And if you're too scared to
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  Speaker 6: beat champions on TV, then none of these titles are
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  Speaker 6: going to mean anything. And they don't because he doesn't
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  Speaker 6: run programs with any of them. Well, not any of them,
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  Speaker 6: but enough of them. It's bad because there's too many titles.
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  Speaker 3: Barry, it wasn't all you that also said that. You
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  Speaker 3: believed and correct me if I'm wrong, But I thought
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  Speaker 3: you said in the past that you believe the national
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  Speaker 3: title should be a party title as well.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, I thought the national well I thought initially before
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  Speaker 6: they said it, the national title was going to be
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  Speaker 6: like the TV party match title. And you know, Ricochet
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  Speaker 6: is putting on bangers and that's great, but they need
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  Speaker 6: they need a party match title, man, it's their jam.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, even Withet, Yeah, where's the story behind these title
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  Speaker 3: title defenses?
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  Speaker 7: Well?
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  Speaker 3: That that's my issue with any title. You can't just
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  Speaker 3: treat them as Okay, we're gonna put on a title
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  Speaker 3: match for no apparent reason.
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  Speaker 6: I want to be clear on something before all the
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  Speaker 6: nerds trying to those stories. The problem is there's too
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  Speaker 6: many belts to tell stories with. You can only do
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  Speaker 6: it with a few. And that's that's the issue. That's
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  Speaker 6: why so many of them don't mean anything, because there's
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  Speaker 6: not enough TV to have feuds that mean something for
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  Speaker 6: all of these belts. There's just too many.
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  Speaker 5: I got to disagree with that because of the fact is,
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  Speaker 5: here's the reason. The problem with the last month and
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  Speaker 5: a half has been the C two. Sure, yeah, you cannot,
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  Speaker 5: you cannot.
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  Speaker 2: Expect you know.
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  Speaker 5: I think it was just to set a little bit ago.
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  Speaker 5: You know, Risco. Everybody's complaining Mark Risco has only had
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  Speaker 5: one title defense. Who's he going to defend it against
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  Speaker 5: when everybody's in the sea too. So if Tony, yeah,
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  Speaker 5: I agree, Tony, there may be one or two too
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  Speaker 5: many belts.
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  Speaker 7: I think that they need to.
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  Speaker 5: The biggest problem I have with it is you have
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  Speaker 5: R O H and AW. You have way too many
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  Speaker 5: belts coming back and forth. You need to get some
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  Speaker 5: of these belts off of AW, put them in r
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  Speaker 5: o H where you have you can get them more exposure,
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  Speaker 5: get them done, and keep them separate because you already
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  Speaker 5: have seven eight nine belts in AW. When you bring
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  Speaker 5: those r o H belts over, the TV belt, the
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  Speaker 5: Trio's belt, the tag team belts, the the what's the other,
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  Speaker 5: the peer title, you have those getting done in pay
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  Speaker 5: per views and on TV. That takes away time for
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  Speaker 5: your regular belts. Tony's got a problem with being able
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  Speaker 5: to work on major storylines four belts at the same
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  Speaker 5: time when he's got other things going on, And that's
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  Speaker 5: part of the problem with AW.
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  Speaker 6: Is it another issue to like, if if you've gotten
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  Speaker 6: this many belts, how do you develop characters and feuds
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  Speaker 6: away from a title match too, Because like, you've got
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  Speaker 6: to build people up away from title matches so we
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  Speaker 6: care about them when they get their run challenge.
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  Speaker 5: They need another two hour show.
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  Speaker 6: Honestly, they have too many bolts for the amount of TV.
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  Speaker 6: Like I just anyway, they need.
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  Speaker 7: Our show different so much.
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  Speaker 5: You do it on YouTube, dude, on YouTube, but you
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  Speaker 5: need another two hour show to be able to do
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  Speaker 5: that with or bring.
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  Speaker 3: Back to this particular topic because I find it interesting.
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  Speaker 3: I'm going to say something here that I think people
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  Speaker 3: are gonna find very uninteresting, and I know that a
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  Speaker 3: couple of people will agree with me because we've said
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  Speaker 3: it in the past. When it comes to aw Traditionally,
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  Speaker 3: I think the weakest part of the year is Forbidden
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  Speaker 3: Door season. Because Forbidden Door I've gone on record of
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  Speaker 3: calling it the great momentum killer. I don't know if
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  Speaker 3: you guys feel that way.
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  Speaker 2: Now.
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  Speaker 3: Last year's Forbidden Door was not that way because there
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  Speaker 3: wasn't a whole lot of Forbidden doorsh in Forbidden Door
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  Speaker 3: last year. I'm beginning to feel the same way about
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  Speaker 3: the Continental Classic. I am one of the people that
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  Speaker 3: do not enjoy the Continental Classic as much as I should,
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  Speaker 3: and I think the reason for that is I think
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  Speaker 3: it should be spread out a little bit more. It
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  Speaker 3: should start early earlier, it should end earlier. Because I
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  Speaker 3: said it before and I'll say it again, you cannot
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  Speaker 3: end a Continental Classic qualifying matches to determine who's going
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  Speaker 3: to be in the semifinals of the Continental Classic on
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  Speaker 3: what was it New Year or Christmas Eve, two days
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  Speaker 3: before the pay per view.
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  Speaker 2: That is that is just not enough time.
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  Speaker 3: Sure, the pay per view did really well and as
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  Speaker 3: far as buys and it was a great pay per view,
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  Speaker 3: the story behind the pay per view sucked.
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  Speaker 2: I'm just gonna say.
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  Speaker 5: And the problem with the Continental Classic for me is,
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  Speaker 5: if you go back and listen to our prediction show,
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  Speaker 5: I missed the finals by one person. I had Pack
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  Speaker 5: versus Mocksley and the other semifinal call it versus Takeshta
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  Speaker 5: was who I picked. The only one I missed was Packed.
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  Speaker 5: It's too predictable. It's always been predictable. It's always gonna
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  Speaker 5: be predictable. Wanted to do the Continental Classic right.
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  Speaker 6: You can't think all of course.
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  Speaker 4: It was suddenly if I mayn't, I don't think anybody.
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  Speaker 4: I don't think anybody except for maybe you sudden saw
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  Speaker 4: it coming. I didn't.
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  Speaker 5: Well, to me, I mean, if I see it coming,
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  Speaker 5: there's a problem. I mean seriously, I mean.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, I've been watching wrestling for a long time.
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  Speaker 2: But you knew.
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  Speaker 5: You knew when o'caughta and Tiquesta were in the final
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  Speaker 5: or were in the match, you knew those two were
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  Speaker 5: going to be in a semi That was the only way.
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  Speaker 3: To do it right.
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  Speaker 5: And the whole They they took the storyline of having
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  Speaker 5: Moxley getting his butt kicked by everybody, and then it
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  Speaker 5: just sort of instead of doing it where they could
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  Speaker 5: have got rid of those guys, they just kind of
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  Speaker 5: dropped it and now everything's like gone. So you know,
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  Speaker 5: it was just like they just to me, Tony misses
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  Speaker 5: a lot of opportunities sometimes when it comes to that
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  Speaker 5: kind of stuff.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, one of my biggest complaints with the the tournaments
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  Speaker 3: that Tony has run over the years is kind of
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  Speaker 3: like what Sutton has said, he telegrass it really bad.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, look, everybody knew that Eddie Kingston was winning
• 19:11
  Speaker 3: the first C two, so why was it even there.
• 19:14
  Speaker 3: The matches were great, don't get me wrong, the matches
• 19:17
  Speaker 3: were enjoyable, but it's aw You could put matches anywhere
• 19:23
  Speaker 3: on AWTV and they're going to be good.
• 19:26
  Speaker 8: Yeah, but this one, really I don't remember people saying
• 19:29
  Speaker 8: that Okada was going to lose or Moxley was gonna win.
• 19:33
  Speaker 8: I remember people think Sakashka was going to advance, but
• 19:35
  Speaker 8: I don't remember people flat out thinking mox was just
• 19:39
  Speaker 8: gonna come back and roorsely do it.
• 19:41
  Speaker 3: What we did our AW World's End Prediction show and
• 19:46
  Speaker 3: a Continental Classic Classic production show. Yeah, I know that
• 19:52
  Speaker 3: there was four people there. Two of us picked Okata
• 19:55
  Speaker 3: and Moxley to be in the finals. Now, I don't
• 19:58
  Speaker 3: think anybody expected Moxley to win. But we had Moxley
• 20:03
  Speaker 3: and Okata in the finals, not Takeshta and and not Fletcher.
• 20:10
  Speaker 7: IM sure, I don't none of us picked to win.
• 20:14
  Speaker 3: None of us picked Moxley to win. So that was
• 20:16
  Speaker 3: a pleasant surprise. That was a pleasant surprise, It really was.
• 20:20
  Speaker 7: So. I mean, there was some stuff that was predictable,
• 20:23
  Speaker 7: but to say the whole tournament was predictable is not
• 20:27
  Speaker 7: really fair.
• 20:29
  Speaker 6: I sometimes tournaments like this aren't everybody's cup of tea,
• 20:34
  Speaker 6: and I think that's okay. It not appealing to Kelson
• 20:37
  Speaker 6: or MK for for different reasons, or I'm sorry Kelson
• 20:40
  Speaker 6: or something for different reasons. I think that's okay. There's
• 20:43
  Speaker 6: there's gonna be stuff that just doesn't doesn't land because
• 20:45
  Speaker 6: it's just not somebody's cup of tea, and that's fine.
• 20:48
  Speaker 8: But it was used for people getting over though, Like
• 20:52
  Speaker 8: so here here's one of the things I don't.
• 20:55
  Speaker 6: Necessarily disagree with the predictability standpoint, They've been building to
• 20:59
  Speaker 6: Takeshaa and Okada facing off for months. Guys, it was
• 21:04
  Speaker 6: going to happen at some point. They picked the C
• 21:06
  Speaker 6: two to be the first, so I don't think that's
• 21:10
  Speaker 6: I don't see a problem with that storyline. It's like
• 21:12
  Speaker 6: being angry that you can kind of tell where the
• 21:14
  Speaker 6: season of a TV show is going. It's okay to
• 21:16
  Speaker 6: know it's the journey and as an entertaining as they
• 21:19
  Speaker 6: go there. What I like about the C two is
• 21:23
  Speaker 6: less the end of it. As much as you know,
• 21:25
  Speaker 6: the semis and finals are always great from a match perspective,
• 21:28
  Speaker 6: but it's the earlier matches where are the surprise is
• 21:32
  Speaker 6: going to happen. And that's the part I love about
• 21:34
  Speaker 6: the C two to the most is the first two
• 21:36
  Speaker 6: or three rounds there's upsets, and there has to be
• 21:40
  Speaker 6: because he always books it until the semi. You can't
• 21:43
  Speaker 6: tell who the finalists are going to be until that
• 21:44
  Speaker 6: last week, especially like this this year. I think for
• 21:47
  Speaker 6: the Gold or the Blue, the whole you didn't know
• 21:50
  Speaker 6: at all, Like you had to go through that whole
• 21:52
  Speaker 6: episode of Collision to figure out who's going to make
• 21:54
  Speaker 6: it right.
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: That episode of Collision was on Christmas Night.
• 22:00
  Speaker 6: Disagreeing with the stretched out thing either. I do think
• 22:02
  Speaker 6: it's too condensed. I think it's not in a great
• 22:05
  Speaker 6: time of year. Maybe that's why Tony does it, because
• 22:08
  Speaker 6: it's traditionally some of the lowest viewed television spots.
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: Of the year.
• 22:11
  Speaker 6: I don't get it, but I think the strength of
• 22:14
  Speaker 6: the C two actually is the earlier part. There are
• 22:17
  Speaker 6: surprise wins to get people over. When Jack Perry got
• 22:20
  Speaker 6: that victory, suddenly people gave a crap about him in
• 22:23
  Speaker 6: this tournament. He wasn't just a plug and play guy,
• 22:25
  Speaker 6: and he was a lot of fun to watch. There
• 22:27
  Speaker 6: was a lot of people that were fun to watch
• 22:29
  Speaker 6: because of those early upsets. Because after that's established, everybody
• 22:32
  Speaker 6: knows each any match can be an upset. I didn't
• 22:35
  Speaker 6: think Okada was gonna lose the match he did Kyle Fletcher,
• 22:37
  Speaker 6: but he did, and that was great.
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 22:39
  Speaker 3: I mean look at when speedball Mike Bailey won that
• 22:44
  Speaker 3: match against Fletcher. I mean that literally put Bailey on
• 22:49
  Speaker 3: the map in mind.
• 22:50
  Speaker 6: Isn't it. Yeah, Yeah, that's the tournament style. Things like
• 22:55
  Speaker 6: this can do. They give you a reason to put
• 22:57
  Speaker 6: people over outside of a story.
• 22:59
  Speaker 3: Just do the tournament started a couple of weeks earlier,
• 23:02
  Speaker 3: maybe three or four weeks earlier, have less C two
• 23:05
  Speaker 3: matches a week, and ended at least a week before earlier,
• 23:12
  Speaker 3: so that we're not watching on Christmas even Christmas Night
• 23:17
  Speaker 3: to figure out who's going to be in arguably the
• 23:20
  Speaker 3: biggest tournament in AW.
• 23:23
  Speaker 4: Would you prefer it like if maybe they did the
• 23:25
  Speaker 4: C two the way they did the women's tag team
• 23:29
  Speaker 4: tournament that lasted quite a while, that was pretty stretched out.
• 23:34
  Speaker 8: I thought that was so drawn out too much.
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: In my opinion, that was drawn out too much.
• 23:38
  Speaker 5: I agree, I think they should. They should start it.
• 23:44
  Speaker 5: I don't even know one of the pay per views
• 23:45
  Speaker 5: in the fall late summer. They should started after that.
• 23:48
  Speaker 5: Have one match a week in each one.
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: Have the Gold.
• 23:52
  Speaker 5: On Wednesdays and the Blue on Saturdays. Run one every week.
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: You have ten weeks of.
• 24:02
  Speaker 5: Shows to do and make it more drawn out because
• 24:07
  Speaker 5: it would add more excitement because you have that anticipation.
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: Right right.
• 24:14
  Speaker 3: Well, Look, we could talk about this forever, but we
• 24:16
  Speaker 3: do need to move on because it's kind of the
• 24:19
  Speaker 3: same thing we have the don Kallis family. They've been
• 24:28
  Speaker 3: not as dominant as they've been lately. If I'm not mistaken,
• 24:34
  Speaker 3: Josh Alexander lost to John Moxley in an eliminator match. Katta,
• 24:42
  Speaker 3: you know he lost the C two finals, and we
• 24:47
  Speaker 3: have Takeshta who've just recently lost his match and lost
• 24:53
  Speaker 3: the IWGP World Championship at at Russell Kingdom twenty What
• 25:02
  Speaker 3: does the don Kallis family need to do to recoup?
• 25:06
  Speaker 3: And do you think that Andrade is returning to the
• 25:10
  Speaker 3: Don Callis family sooner than later? What do you think about?
• 25:17
  Speaker 4: Not that I don't like Androtti, I love him. I
• 25:20
  Speaker 4: just think the Callous family is too damn big.
• 25:22
  Speaker 5: Yeah, they need to get better and to survive this
• 25:26
  Speaker 5: to Keshta needs to go out become a face. So
• 25:28
  Speaker 5: Cotton needs to go on his own, and it needs
• 25:31
  Speaker 5: to condense some. Get rid of everybody and anybody that's like,
• 25:35
  Speaker 5: you know, you got Wardlow in that picture you should
• 25:38
  Speaker 5: come down to like Josh Alexander and Hegesio and uh
• 25:45
  Speaker 5: a couple other guys. If you want to bring in
• 25:48
  Speaker 5: Droddie in, that's fine, but get the two biggest star,
• 25:51
  Speaker 5: two of the biggest stars in ae w are. They
• 25:54
  Speaker 5: just don't need.
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: To be in this group.
• 25:56
  Speaker 3: I have a specific question I want to ask, Chris,
• 25:58
  Speaker 3: Are you with me here, Chris? Yeah, in New Japan
• 26:02
  Speaker 3: Pro Wrestling, we have some wrestlers who are part of
• 26:06
  Speaker 3: the well now defunct Bull Club war.
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: Dogs that are.
• 26:18
  Speaker 3: I believe going to be under dual contract very soon,
• 26:21
  Speaker 3: all of them meaning h Gape Kid, Clark Connors, and
• 26:27
  Speaker 3: a couple of others. You know who I'm talking about.
• 26:30
  Speaker 3: You're the expert here on New Japan. I think that
• 26:33
  Speaker 3: we may see those guys battle with.
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: The don KALs family.
• 26:39
  Speaker 7: What do you think about that as a hospitability? I
• 26:43
  Speaker 7: just I know who you're talking When we got David Finley,
• 26:48
  Speaker 7: Clark Connor's gay Kid, and I think drill of maloneous practice.
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: Right that they I mean, they all.
• 26:56
  Speaker 7: The core of the war Dogs, which you know, I
• 27:04
  Speaker 7: didn't watch all of the backstage comments, but they didn't
• 27:07
  Speaker 7: really seem on board with Yochisuji's whole thing. So yeah,
• 27:14
  Speaker 7: I mean it's definitely possible they could decide to what
• 27:19
  Speaker 7: what's the name of the what's the name of the
• 27:20
  Speaker 7: new Faction Unbound company?
• 27:25
  Speaker 3: Yeah, unbound company. I couldn't remember. It was unbound or unaffiliated. Yeah,
• 27:28
  Speaker 3: but the war Dogs are not They were affiliated. Yeah,
• 27:31
  Speaker 3: So now, I mean personally, I think that you're going
• 27:38
  Speaker 3: to be seeing a lot more of dual contracts between
• 27:42
  Speaker 3: AW and New Japan.
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: I think that's we're going.
• 27:47
  Speaker 7: Especially because you know, just like you look at New
• 27:50
  Speaker 7: Japan's shows, a lot of their road too, it's Japanese
• 27:55
  Speaker 7: wrestlers or it's you know, the foreigners who have are
• 28:00
  Speaker 7: actively living in Japan right now, like you know, they're
• 28:04
  Speaker 7: still the economy is still struggling, so they're not going
• 28:08
  Speaker 7: to be bringing in you know, the guys from the
• 28:10
  Speaker 7: US and the guys from the UK nearly as much.
• 28:15
  Speaker 7: So yeah, I could definitely see you know, the war
• 28:18
  Speaker 7: Dogs and some others being like, you know, we want
• 28:22
  Speaker 7: to work, so we're gonna go do a w for
• 28:25
  Speaker 7: a while that you know will come over for tournaments,
• 28:30
  Speaker 7: will come over for big shows, right, So yeah, you
• 28:34
  Speaker 7: could see the influx of talent from their I could
• 28:41
  Speaker 7: see you know, the war Dogs or whatever name they
• 28:45
  Speaker 7: end up doing, coming and fighting John Kallas family, especially
• 28:49
  Speaker 7: if I'drade does come back because they just you know,
• 28:55
  Speaker 7: win against him at Russell Kingdom with him being the
• 29:00
  Speaker 7: byan spear of the New United Empire.
• 29:04
  Speaker 3: Right, so that brings another thing, So all that could
• 29:07
  Speaker 3: make it more interesting with Forbidden Door, maybe actually have
• 29:12
  Speaker 3: a real build up. I personally, when it comes to
• 29:15
  Speaker 3: Forbidden Door, I don't want to see title matches. I
• 29:17
  Speaker 3: want to see rivalries because let's face it, a W
• 29:22
  Speaker 3: title matches are not going to go well for the
• 29:23
  Speaker 3: Japanese wrestlers and Forbidden Door.
• 29:26
  Speaker 7: So make it, make it rivals, make it stable wars.
• 29:31
  Speaker 7: You know, I love to see a trios Cup where
• 29:35
  Speaker 7: you have you know, so maybe two teams from a W,
• 29:41
  Speaker 7: two teams.
• 29:42
  Speaker 3: I don't I don't want to see that because you know,
• 29:44
  Speaker 3: right off the bat, if they do a Trios Cup
• 29:46
  Speaker 3: and a a W is gonna win it, it doesn't matter.
• 29:51
  Speaker 7: Do you also have an all star team one a
• 29:56
  Speaker 7: W one New Japan one c MLLL so then and
• 30:01
  Speaker 7: you know you have them win it because that way
• 30:05
  Speaker 7: every company gets to, you know, show off, you know exactly.
• 30:11
  Speaker 7: But it wouldn't be like, oh, obviously they're going to win.
• 30:15
  Speaker 7: You make it where you know, the CMLL team is
• 30:18
  Speaker 7: maybe like Sky Team again Ark Order. So yeah, yeah,
• 30:27
  Speaker 7: you're you.
• 30:28
  Speaker 3: Are rambling a little bit and saying the same thing
• 30:30
  Speaker 3: over and over again. But I do want to bring
• 30:32
  Speaker 3: up something else with Knowski Takeshta is that and I
• 30:37
  Speaker 3: have to by the way, I have to apologize because
• 30:40
  Speaker 3: I think I called Okata kauzo okada earlier and I
• 30:44
  Speaker 3: sincerely meant to say kazachka okada is proper, you know.
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: But anyway, it was reported last week, just last.
• 30:52
  Speaker 3: Week that Takeshta's UH contract is dual contract with Do
• 30:59
  Speaker 3: Japan Wrestling was expiring at the end of January. Well,
• 31:04
  Speaker 3: he has now re upped that, according to Fightful, I
• 31:09
  Speaker 3: believe it was or reported it. So Takeshta has resigned
• 31:14
  Speaker 3: with New Japan, so that's good. I believe he's He's
• 31:19
  Speaker 3: also signed to DDT, so he's got three contracts that
• 31:24
  Speaker 3: he's working under. But anyway, I personally think that when
• 31:29
  Speaker 3: it comes to Forbidden Door, I think that's what we're
• 31:33
  Speaker 3: working toward, is that the don Kallis family is going
• 31:37
  Speaker 3: to play a big role in Forbidden Door and the
• 31:41
  Speaker 3: stories about Forbidden Door.
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: I really do. Let's move on.
• 31:49
  Speaker 3: We had some interesting releases, well not really releases. The
• 31:53
  Speaker 3: contracts expired a Mercedes Martinez, alex Alahambras and Tavan and
• 32:01
  Speaker 3: they did not renew the contract in aw so they
• 32:07
  Speaker 3: are now free agents. Of course, Mercedes Martinez has announced
• 32:10
  Speaker 3: that twenty twenty six will be her last year, and
• 32:15
  Speaker 3: she's had a hell of a career. But Tavan is,
• 32:21
  Speaker 3: you know, a very good wrestler in my opinion. Alahambras
• 32:25
  Speaker 3: is a great hype man. Worked a lot with Ray
• 32:29
  Speaker 3: Phoenix and Penta. I don't see maybe I don't see
• 32:36
  Speaker 3: WWE hiring Alahaimbra's because they're not going to hire a
• 32:42
  Speaker 3: specific hype man when they've got you know. But I
• 32:48
  Speaker 3: could see Tavan going to NXT. I could see Mercedes
• 32:53
  Speaker 3: Martinez showing up at Royal Rumble. To be honest with you,
• 32:59
  Speaker 3: but more importantly, you have to look at I'm interested
• 33:03
  Speaker 3: in hearing. Look, Matt Taven's gone, Mike Bennett's still there,
• 33:09
  Speaker 3: his partner. There are other wrestlers that are not used
• 33:15
  Speaker 3: in AW or ro oh anywhere near as often as
• 33:19
  Speaker 3: they should be. Are we seeing a change of guard
• 33:22
  Speaker 3: here in AAW and do you agree with it? Because
• 33:25
  Speaker 3: we've also had you look at the twenty twenty five signings,
• 33:29
  Speaker 3: We've had some an influx of wrestlers come in that
• 33:34
  Speaker 3: are appearing on the shows every week.
• 33:36
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I would say if it was to be a
• 33:39
  Speaker 5: Changing on the Guard, it would have had to be
• 33:40
  Speaker 5: three people who were more important than what these are,
• 33:43
  Speaker 5: because you know, Mercedes and Taan very rarely show up
• 33:49
  Speaker 5: on aw.
• 33:52
  Speaker 3: Mercedes Martinez has wrestled Toda w Roh for better part
• 33:56
  Speaker 3: of the two.
• 33:58
  Speaker 5: She wrestled or she was doing something either early early
• 34:01
  Speaker 5: last year or late the year before. There was that
• 34:04
  Speaker 5: whole thing with her and who was she? She was
• 34:09
  Speaker 5: her and uh, I can't take any other two, but there.
• 34:12
  Speaker 7: Was one Sheeta, I think yeah, and there.
• 34:15
  Speaker 5: Was I know there was something going on with them,
• 34:19
  Speaker 5: but it was only for like two matches and that
• 34:21
  Speaker 5: was it. She's not been there at all. No, So
• 34:25
  Speaker 5: with her gone, Tavin gone, there're r Oh more than anything.
• 34:29
  Speaker 5: Alex though, on the other hand, I was kind of
• 34:31
  Speaker 5: surprised that because he's h every Luca Door in a
• 34:36
  Speaker 5: w except form bybe Hetche of Sarah.
• 34:38
  Speaker 4: Yeah, like he was just on dynamite last week.
• 34:40
  Speaker 6: I think, yeah, but is that really a do you
• 34:43
  Speaker 6: need that cost?
• 34:45
  Speaker 2: Like? Now?
• 34:46
  Speaker 6: So I think when Carlson what you were saying on
• 34:49
  Speaker 6: the The Changing the Guard, I get what you're you're
• 34:52
  Speaker 6: getting at too, is some of the unused crowd, And
• 34:56
  Speaker 6: I don't mean that in a derogatory sense any of
• 34:58
  Speaker 6: these performers.
• 34:59
  Speaker 3: But it's just overstory term.
• 35:04
  Speaker 6: So like like about me, when you're talking unused overhead,
• 35:11
  Speaker 6: I guess is a better way. That's really what I meant, like.
• 35:15
  Speaker 4: Or or like it's a numeric you want to go
• 35:19
  Speaker 4: k oh, Yeah.
• 35:20
  Speaker 6: Mercedes, he's not using She's on her way out. Matt
• 35:23
  Speaker 6: Tavan's forty.
• 35:25
  Speaker 7: Like Matt.
• 35:26
  Speaker 6: You know, Matt, he's bringing in Tony's Tony's bringing in young, younger,
• 35:32
  Speaker 6: younger people to build around. And I think Matt Tavan
• 35:35
  Speaker 6: will be great in t NA. He's w W. He
• 35:39
  Speaker 6: is not going to bring him into n XT because
• 35:40
  Speaker 6: he's forty. Matt Tavan is a great performer. I'm bombed
• 35:44
  Speaker 6: he didn't get a run because I enjoyed a couple
• 35:46
  Speaker 6: of singles matches he did get to see. But AX, like,
• 35:48
  Speaker 6: you just don't need a hype man, No, just don't
• 35:52
  Speaker 6: you don't. I mean, commander can the Lucha doors can
• 35:54
  Speaker 6: get over on their performances. They don't need a hype man.
• 35:57
  Speaker 6: He fit early, but he's just not needed anymore. So
• 36:00
  Speaker 6: when you're making salary cap room for other performers or
• 36:03
  Speaker 6: just cutting expenses just because there's the cost value analysis
• 36:08
  Speaker 6: is just very low on them. Yeah, stuff's going to happen,
• 36:11
  Speaker 6: you know, And and t K lets contracts expire, and
• 36:14
  Speaker 6: opposed to releasing people, especially performers that probably aren't going
• 36:18
  Speaker 6: to get similar work for what he's paying them.
• 36:20
  Speaker 3: Who was Who's the last person the TK outright released?
• 36:24
  Speaker 2: Was it? C? I'm punk?
• 36:26
  Speaker 6: I think it was Punk unless somebody A couple of
• 36:28
  Speaker 6: people asked for releases. I think that were very rare
• 36:31
  Speaker 6: were granted. But yeah, I think it's just wait.
• 36:34
  Speaker 7: Was the one from their country before or after? Punk?
• 36:44
  Speaker 6: Congress?
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: Fire?
• 36:45
  Speaker 6: To those are a terminatdal cause yeah, they weren't even
• 36:47
  Speaker 6: just released early.
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's right.
• 36:53
  Speaker 7: The contractors. This isn't a new thing. You know, we
• 36:57
  Speaker 7: saw this at around year three. We saw it in
• 37:01
  Speaker 7: the fourth year. We see it every year where you know,
• 37:06
  Speaker 7: he signs people to two to four year deals and
• 37:11
  Speaker 7: you know, he uses them when he can. But if
• 37:15
  Speaker 7: there's someone who's not really being used, and you know,
• 37:20
  Speaker 7: Mercedes Martinez, Matt Taban, they're great talents, but you know,
• 37:23
  Speaker 7: Mercedes Martinez said it's her last year. Matt Taban he's
• 37:27
  Speaker 7: not old, but he's older, and you know they're not
• 37:33
  Speaker 7: being used. You can't just keep paying people forever. It's
• 37:38
  Speaker 7: just because of you know, they're they're a good talent.
• 37:44
  Speaker 7: Like if you're not right, it's not you can't just
• 37:49
  Speaker 7: keep paying them.
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 37:51
  Speaker 3: Well, that brings up a point because you've got one
• 37:54
  Speaker 3: of the guys that they're keep paying and they're not using,
• 37:56
  Speaker 3: and that's Chris Jericho. There's a I mean Britt Baker,
• 38:01
  Speaker 3: Dan Housing, you know, so what do you mean.
• 38:06
  Speaker 6: Not anymore Christmas contracts? Done? Is in December thirty first ye.
• 38:10
  Speaker 3: As, but but but he's still on the AW roster page.
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: Yes, so so.
• 38:22
  Speaker 6: The intern that manages that is off right now, that's
• 38:26
  Speaker 6: why you still.
• 38:28
  Speaker 2: There? You go. But anyway, but here's the thing.
• 38:31
  Speaker 3: It goes back to the point we were just talking about,
• 38:33
  Speaker 3: is that there are wrestlers that AW isn't using. Britt Baker,
• 38:40
  Speaker 3: Nyla Rose, I mean, obviously, dol Nyla Rose is a
• 38:43
  Speaker 3: different kind of case because Nyla is backstage and she's
• 38:48
  Speaker 3: been very vocal about what she's doing backstage and how
• 38:51
  Speaker 3: much she enjoys it. So that's something you're going to
• 38:54
  Speaker 3: be looking at But with all the wrestlers that AW
• 38:58
  Speaker 3: has that are not being use, including Chris Jericho, for
• 39:02
  Speaker 3: whatever reason, is Chris Jericho going to stay with the
• 39:05
  Speaker 3: company and make a big return. I don't know, But
• 39:09
  Speaker 3: he's fifty five years old. There's not a whole heck
• 39:12
  Speaker 3: of a lot that he needs to do to cement
• 39:16
  Speaker 3: his legacy at AW or anywhere else.
• 39:20
  Speaker 8: I don't know if he comes back, I don't see
• 39:23
  Speaker 8: him coming back as much of a wrestler anymore. He's
• 39:25
  Speaker 8: talked about doing commentary. He's talked about being Tony's right
• 39:28
  Speaker 8: hand manned a little bit along with and O'Brian, and
• 39:31
  Speaker 8: I could totally see see that. But there are some
• 39:33
  Speaker 8: people that he that Tony does need to release, like
• 39:36
  Speaker 8: Dan Housen and Brittin. But I really want to Jericho
• 39:40
  Speaker 8: come back.
• 39:43
  Speaker 9: I could see go getting a six month contract for
• 39:48
  Speaker 9: WWE so he can do whatever he's going to do there,
• 39:50
  Speaker 9: get inducted to the Hall of Fame, then coming back
• 39:53
  Speaker 9: to AEW and and you know, being commentary.
• 39:58
  Speaker 5: You know, everybody hated the treat thing. But he could
• 40:01
  Speaker 5: come back and mentor some people because I mean, what
• 40:04
  Speaker 5: hasn't he done? But I could see that how it goes.
• 40:07
  Speaker 5: I just don't think he's going to stay away from
• 40:09
  Speaker 5: AW forever.
• 40:11
  Speaker 3: Well, there were people that did like the Learning Tree
• 40:14
  Speaker 3: for whatever reason. I personally like this New York minute. Yes,
• 40:17
  Speaker 3: you know, I thought.
• 40:21
  Speaker 7: First one thing, he doesn't want a retirement run like,
• 40:28
  Speaker 7: he doesn't want that, you know, like, Okay, I'm gonna
• 40:33
  Speaker 7: doesn't want that thing.
• 40:34
  Speaker 3: Wait wait, wait a minute, wait a minute. You're saying that,
• 40:37
  Speaker 3: but I've not heard that, So where are you getting
• 40:39
  Speaker 3: that from.
• 40:40
  Speaker 7: I've heard this from interviews and other stuff. He's done,
• 40:45
  Speaker 7: Like he said, he's not really like when he's done,
• 40:50
  Speaker 7: he just wants to be a match. He just takes
• 40:53
  Speaker 7: his boots off and leaves him in the ring. Not
• 40:55
  Speaker 7: one of these you know, planned doubt sayings like I'm
• 40:59
  Speaker 7: retired this day or you know, a career versus whatever match.
• 41:05
  Speaker 7: He just wants to have his final match, put his
• 41:08
  Speaker 7: boots in the ring, and go.
• 41:09
  Speaker 5: And that's probably what he's gonna do in a in WWE. Basically,
• 41:13
  Speaker 5: the only reason I see him going back to, like
• 41:15
  Speaker 5: I said, is a program that gets into WrestleMania so
• 41:19
  Speaker 5: he can get inducted to the Hall of Fame and
• 41:21
  Speaker 5: then he'll end his WWE career like that, because you
• 41:25
  Speaker 5: know he's going to get put in there. But as
• 41:27
  Speaker 5: long as he's in AW, he's.
• 41:29
  Speaker 8: Not well thank me about how to book that, But
• 41:34
  Speaker 8: that's just me.
• 41:36
  Speaker 6: I if I was a betting man, I would bet
• 41:39
  Speaker 6: Chris Jercho shows up with the Royal Rumble, and I
• 41:41
  Speaker 6: would bet he has a match at WrestleMania hostibly or
• 41:44
  Speaker 6: retirement match. I think Chris wants to go out on
• 41:48
  Speaker 6: the biggest stage. I think he's entitled to that, regardless
• 41:51
  Speaker 6: of how the last bit of his run went. But
• 41:54
  Speaker 6: I don't think it's going to be a long drawn
• 41:56
  Speaker 6: out thing. I think he wants to do some runs
• 41:58
  Speaker 6: with WWE. I would be surprised if he came back
• 42:02
  Speaker 6: into aw Creative, though I would not be surprised if
• 42:04
  Speaker 6: he stayed as a member of WWE Creative, either as
• 42:08
  Speaker 6: an occasional on air talent agent or manager. That it's okay,
• 42:15
  Speaker 6: But I would not be surprised if he says WW.
• 42:17
  Speaker 8: I just don't.
• 42:19
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 42:19
  Speaker 8: I don't think Jericho and Triple H get along that well.
• 42:26
  Speaker 8: He was always more of a vinced guy, and I
• 42:30
  Speaker 8: think Chris pitches a lot of ideas and Triple H
• 42:33
  Speaker 8: is probably going to turn them down.
• 42:35
  Speaker 2: I think he's better.
• 42:36
  Speaker 8: Off with AW because AW is more open minded and stuff,
• 42:39
  Speaker 8: and I just don't see him gelling well with TKO.
• 42:43
  Speaker 6: Wwwe bringing him Jericho is doing it to make money
• 42:47
  Speaker 6: off of his retirement tour. He will not be brought
• 42:49
  Speaker 6: in and they have to figure out what's the book
• 42:51
  Speaker 6: with them. So if he goes there, the whole thing
• 42:54
  Speaker 6: is how much money can they make on his retirement tour.
• 42:57
  Speaker 6: Chris will have him saying what that is that he's
• 42:59
  Speaker 6: not That's not going to be a one sided thing,
• 43:01
  Speaker 6: but he will not be a performer where he's there's
• 43:05
  Speaker 6: ambiguity about what he's doing.
• 43:06
  Speaker 5: And if you believe that you rumors Vince might be
• 43:09
  Speaker 5: coming there.
• 43:09
  Speaker 2: Let's not go there.
• 43:10
  Speaker 3: But I will say I will say this, there's one
• 43:13
  Speaker 3: thing that we haven't discussed.
• 43:14
  Speaker 2: Really.
• 43:16
  Speaker 3: We've touched on it, but we haven't really discussed it
• 43:18
  Speaker 3: with Chris Jericho. Chris Jericho is fifty five years old,
• 43:23
  Speaker 3: and you know what that means.
• 43:26
  Speaker 2: He's perfect for.
• 43:26
  Speaker 3: A long w w WWE made event run because there's
• 43:33
  Speaker 3: nothing that ww likes more than they're nostalgia tours.
• 43:39
  Speaker 2: I'm sorry I mean.
• 43:40
  Speaker 3: It's aistic thing that it's a tribalistic thing to say,
• 43:44
  Speaker 3: but you know, Brob Braker.
• 43:48
  Speaker 7: Doing the things that killed wc W exactly.
• 43:52
  Speaker 4: It's not tribalistic if it's true.
• 43:54
  Speaker 3: Bob Baker, even in Cafe, made a statement this week saying,
• 44:00
  Speaker 3: w W he has all these eighty eighty year olds
• 44:03
  Speaker 3: running around and I got to take him down.
• 44:05
  Speaker 6: You know that's going to be for the belt. That's
• 44:09
  Speaker 6: the program.
• 44:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the program. I sure hope. I don't know
• 44:13
  Speaker 2: if he doesn't.
• 44:14
  Speaker 3: If he doesn't get killed by Punk before then, because.
• 44:19
  Speaker 6: Yesterday had really scary watches. Otherwise it was a good match, but.
• 44:24
  Speaker 3: The porter was all on Punk.
• 44:28
  Speaker 7: That was he was. I think it looked like Breaker slipped.
• 44:35
  Speaker 3: No no, if you if you watch it, and there's
• 44:39
  Speaker 3: actually been some videos about it.
• 44:41
  Speaker 2: Punk's positioning he had his legs.
• 44:43
  Speaker 3: On the wrong side of the ropes for that move,
• 44:46
  Speaker 3: and there was no there was no way that Ron
• 44:51
  Speaker 3: Baker or anybody could could execute that move because Punk
• 44:55
  Speaker 3: was in the completely incorrect position.
• 44:59
  Speaker 6: Yeah, and I mean, it's it's amazing that more botches
• 45:03
  Speaker 6: don't happen, you know, especially in aw considering the stuff
• 45:07
  Speaker 6: they tried to do. But well those were scary. Fortunately
• 45:10
  Speaker 6: I read they're both okay.
• 45:12
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, look when you compare, when you compare
• 45:15
  Speaker 3: AW to WWE, I've said this before and I'll say
• 45:19
  Speaker 3: it again, AEW definitely should have more injuries, unfortunately, and
• 45:24
  Speaker 3: they should definitely have more botches. Why because WWE and
• 45:28
  Speaker 3: AW would compare the actual time and ring AW spends
• 45:33
  Speaker 3: over the course of a year. There's literally probably more
• 45:38
  Speaker 3: than twice as much actual wrestling on AW when you
• 45:42
  Speaker 3: take the TV shows and the pay per views and
• 45:45
  Speaker 3: the amount of wrestling that is done on these shows.
• 45:49
  Speaker 3: I mean, you're talking about more time spent in the
• 45:51
  Speaker 3: ring is going to result in more injuries and more botches.
• 45:53
  Speaker 3: It's just common sense.
• 45:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but anyway, Yeah.
• 46:00
  Speaker 3: I did want to go to Willow Nightingale winning the
• 46:04
  Speaker 3: TBS Championship. So now she is the women's what half
• 46:09
  Speaker 3: of the women's tag team title holders, She's the TBS
• 46:12
  Speaker 3: championship holder. She's also the adult Swim Booty Champion with
• 46:19
  Speaker 3: Orange Cassidy. So congratulations will Nngale. Three belts. Mercedes loses
• 46:27
  Speaker 3: yet another belt. I've been on record many times. I
• 46:31
  Speaker 3: know I sound like a broken record. I am not
• 46:33
  Speaker 3: a fan of any aw talent having more than one
• 46:39
  Speaker 3: aw belt at a time. So when I look at
• 46:44
  Speaker 3: this picture of Willow Nightingale holding the TBS Championship and
• 46:49
  Speaker 3: the Women's Tag Team Championship, my first thought is.
• 46:52
  Speaker 2: We got to get one of those off of her
• 46:55
  Speaker 2: really soon.
• 46:56
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I was disappointed.
• 46:58
  Speaker 8: I love Willow, but I thought there or some better
• 47:01
  Speaker 8: people to eventually put it on. And I really thought
• 47:05
  Speaker 8: that the TBS title was going to be the last
• 47:07
  Speaker 8: one to fall, but I was wrong again.
• 47:10
  Speaker 3: Well you know, look, I know that we've had our
• 47:13
  Speaker 3: discussions about Mercedes Monette. I think I called her Martinez earlier,
• 47:21
  Speaker 3: but Mercedes Monet, and look, I don't care what anybody says.
• 47:28
  Speaker 3: She has worked her tail off, putting people over. I mean,
• 47:31
  Speaker 3: everybody that goes into a match where Mercedes Monet in
• 47:34
  Speaker 3: twenty twenty five has come out looking like a better
• 47:37
  Speaker 3: wrestler than they were going in.
• 47:39
  Speaker 2: And I will die on that hill.
• 47:42
  Speaker 3: Maybe in twenty twenty four she got off to a
• 47:44
  Speaker 3: little bit of a rocky start with her promos at
• 47:47
  Speaker 3: her wrestling matches, especially to one with Britt Baker, but
• 47:52
  Speaker 3: I will die on the hill say that Mercedes monet
• 47:54
  Speaker 3: makes wrestlers better.
• 47:57
  Speaker 6: Oh yeah, she's died in now.
• 48:00
  Speaker 4: And have you come around on Mercedes yet?
• 48:02
  Speaker 2: No way.
• 48:03
  Speaker 7: I I'll just say this. I'll just say this.
• 48:08
  Speaker 5: Everybody makes a great big deal about her having all
• 48:11
  Speaker 5: these titles and how they helped these promotions. I say bullshit,
• 48:15
  Speaker 5: because she's never gone back and defended those titles. She
• 48:19
  Speaker 5: took them and ran with them and disappeared. It does
• 48:22
  Speaker 5: nothing for them after one show me.
• 48:25
  Speaker 10: That ye, just to stop you, she's gone back to
• 48:39
  Speaker 10: you know what was I say, the company and Italy,
• 48:43
  Speaker 10: the one in like Scandinavia, like.
• 48:45
  Speaker 7: She has gone back and defended. And the whole deal
• 48:48
  Speaker 7: with her losing these titles now, you know, losing the
• 48:53
  Speaker 7: rev pro losing the TVs, probably the c MLL. You know,
• 48:58
  Speaker 7: in the next few months, losing those bigger titles will
• 49:04
  Speaker 7: make it when she goes to those smaller companies to defend,
• 49:09
  Speaker 7: she's going to be more desperate to keep them and
• 49:12
  Speaker 7: it's going to bring more interest to those shows to
• 49:15
  Speaker 7: see does she retain, does she lose another title? Like
• 49:21
  Speaker 7: saying she hasn't helped these companies at all, or it
• 49:24
  Speaker 7: was just a one time thing.
• 49:27
  Speaker 2: Just if you if you look on.
• 49:32
  Speaker 3: A lot of the companies that Mercedes Monet has peered
• 49:34
  Speaker 3: in the the president of the company has issued a
• 49:41
  Speaker 3: statement just saying how wildly appreciative they are and what
• 49:47
  Speaker 3: they what she has done for their promotions.
• 49:52
  Speaker 2: Uh.
• 49:52
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's not your way off base, just way off there.
• 49:55
  Speaker 3: There's only there's only so many weeks in the year.
• 49:59
  Speaker 3: And if you look at many and if you look
• 50:01
  Speaker 3: at how many matches Mercedes Monet has had this year
• 50:05
  Speaker 3: in aw and how many matches she's had overall, I
• 50:10
  Speaker 3: mean she's wrestled well over a dozen matches in other companies,
• 50:13
  Speaker 3: and she has defended in other countries as well.
• 50:19
  Speaker 5: I'll just say she's not any better than she was
• 50:21
  Speaker 5: in WWE, and I just disagree. It's just, you know,
• 50:24
  Speaker 5: everybody's got their an opinion about it, but that's just
• 50:27
  Speaker 5: I just there's nothing she can do other than losing
• 50:30
  Speaker 5: every title and rebuilding yourself back up and changing how
• 50:34
  Speaker 5: she is right.
• 50:36
  Speaker 7: It would make me.
• 50:37
  Speaker 3: I am not disagreeing, and I respect your opinion. I
• 50:41
  Speaker 3: respect everybody's opinion, but when you say something that's wrong,
• 50:45
  Speaker 3: you know, let's talk about facts. What you said was
• 50:49
  Speaker 3: one wrong that was not opinion you try to present
• 50:53
  Speaker 3: something as a fact that was false.
• 50:55
  Speaker 2: Sorry, that's true, you know.
• 50:59
  Speaker 3: So, now here's the thing we got will All Nightingale,
• 51:02
  Speaker 3: I said earlier, she's got to lose one of these belts.
• 51:06
  Speaker 3: Now that's just my opinion. But who we don't have
• 51:13
  Speaker 3: When you look at Chris Statlander, maybe you have Tekla
• 51:17
  Speaker 3: as a contender there. When you look at will All Nightingale,
• 51:20
  Speaker 3: at Harley Cameron, I don't really see any any contenders
• 51:26
  Speaker 3: that have been built up.
• 51:27
  Speaker 5: Well, yeah, that's too because of the C two. I mean,
• 51:30
  Speaker 5: you didn't have time to do anything else.
• 51:32
  Speaker 7: Sure, sure I had one title defense.
• 51:34
  Speaker 5: I mean it's going to come down to you've had
• 51:39
  Speaker 5: a new tag team on the women's division. You've got
• 51:42
  Speaker 5: some good tag teams that they they came out of this.
• 51:46
  Speaker 5: It wouldn't be hard to start a program with them.
• 51:48
  Speaker 5: I think that's the one that Honestly, I think she's
• 51:52
  Speaker 5: gonna lose them both quicker than you might think, because
• 51:55
  Speaker 5: I don't see her being the TBS title for very long.
• 51:58
  Speaker 5: And like you said a couple of weeks ago, I
• 52:02
  Speaker 5: think that they're not the ultimate tag team. They're just
• 52:06
  Speaker 5: not been together long enough and they just don't tell me. Yeah,
• 52:10
  Speaker 5: and and and until they it was fun that they
• 52:14
  Speaker 5: wanted because they're the fun team. They're the ones that
• 52:18
  Speaker 5: everybody was behind because of how much fun they are.
• 52:20
  Speaker 5: But the two for me personally, I like Harley Harley
• 52:24
  Speaker 5: Cameron better than a dude will it because Harley to me,
• 52:27
  Speaker 5: has so much potential and she has so many things
• 52:31
  Speaker 5: that she does to make her stand out.
• 52:34
  Speaker 2: M h.
• 52:35
  Speaker 5: It's just I have a feeling that if to me,
• 52:39
  Speaker 5: I think the team to beat them will probably be
• 52:42
  Speaker 5: what do they call them now, Penelope and or that
• 52:46
  Speaker 5: group they're calling.
• 52:50
  Speaker 4: You.
• 52:51
  Speaker 5: I think they're going to be the one to take them.
• 52:53
  Speaker 8: I think I agree they should they Yeah. In my
• 52:57
  Speaker 8: opinion's time to put something on Megan Bain, whether a
• 53:00
  Speaker 8: singles or a tag. It's something she's nominate. She deserves something,
• 53:04
  Speaker 8: and she.
• 53:04
  Speaker 5: Could be the one to take the TBS title.
• 53:06
  Speaker 7: Honestly, I was gonna say that.
• 53:09
  Speaker 11: Yeas to me, I think the easiest thing to do
• 53:15
  Speaker 11: is have Willow do the whole open challenge Feld for
• 53:18
  Speaker 11: the TBS title.
• 53:19
  Speaker 7: Let her get a few defenses, and in the meantime
• 53:23
  Speaker 7: you have more tag teams facing off and getting more established.
• 53:30
  Speaker 7: So then when Willow does drop the title too, I
• 53:35
  Speaker 7: would say Megan Vain would be ideal at you know,
• 53:38
  Speaker 7: whatever their special TV show is in say February. You know,
• 53:44
  Speaker 7: that gives her, That gives Willow a decent little six
• 53:48
  Speaker 7: seven week runs. She can defend the title four or
• 53:52
  Speaker 7: five times, you know, make in Vain wins. That gives
• 53:56
  Speaker 7: them a Hey, you know I beat one half of
• 53:59
  Speaker 7: the Tag Team Champions. It gives you a tag team
• 54:02
  Speaker 7: title match for Revolution maybe or in between.
• 54:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 54:07
  Speaker 3: Well, look, Chris, when you're looking at aw, we've got
• 54:10
  Speaker 3: three events coming up in the next three months, you know,
• 54:15
  Speaker 3: two and a half months. You've got first you got
• 54:17
  Speaker 3: Maximum Cartage, which is next week. Uh, then you've got
• 54:22
  Speaker 3: then you've got Grand Slam Sydney, which is in February,
• 54:26
  Speaker 3: and then Revolution, which is the next pay per view
• 54:28
  Speaker 3: in the first pay per view of the year in March.
• 54:32
  Speaker 3: I wouldn't be surprised to see Willow and Harley defend
• 54:37
  Speaker 3: the Team the TBS the tag team titles in Sydney,
• 54:41
  Speaker 3: because that's where Harley is from, is Australia. You know,
• 54:46
  Speaker 3: I wouldn't be surprised to see somebody step up to
• 54:51
  Speaker 3: challenge her for the TBS title at Maximum Carnage. I
• 54:57
  Speaker 3: personally believe that it's going to be Julia Hart to
• 55:00
  Speaker 3: he challenges her first, because if you remember, Willow won
• 55:04
  Speaker 3: the TBS title off of Julia Hart back in twenty
• 55:10
  Speaker 3: twenty three I believe it was, or no, it was
• 55:12
  Speaker 3: twenty three four, you know, so that's where it was.
• 55:16
  Speaker 2: Remember Julia Hart was injured.
• 55:18
  Speaker 3: I personally have always believed that Julia Hart was supposed
• 55:21
  Speaker 3: to lose the title to Mercedes Monett because if you remember,
• 55:25
  Speaker 3: when Mercedes Monette came into aw the first person to
• 55:29
  Speaker 3: attack her was Julia Hart sat up, but that she
• 55:33
  Speaker 3: got injured, so they had to do a pivot and
• 55:36
  Speaker 3: Willow won the title. She kept it for I believe
• 55:38
  Speaker 3: thirty five days the TBS title before she lost it
• 55:42
  Speaker 3: two to Mercedes Monee. Another possibility would be for Mercedes
• 55:47
  Speaker 3: Monette to put Willow over by challenging her, maybe for
• 55:51
  Speaker 3: Maximum Carnage or even at Grand Slams Sydney for just
• 55:58
  Speaker 3: to get another loss. Them to establish will all Night
• 56:02
  Speaker 3: Gale as hey, she's this good that she beat the
• 56:06
  Speaker 3: longest reigning TBS champion twice.
• 56:08
  Speaker 6: Then what if what if you ran a program with them.
• 56:11
  Speaker 2: Then that would be great.
• 56:14
  Speaker 6: So like what if Mercedes does win her belt back
• 56:18
  Speaker 6: and then Willow, like they do a couple series and
• 56:21
  Speaker 6: it bounces a little between them, and so that gives
• 56:25
  Speaker 6: them a chance. Well, it gives Mercedes a chance. It
• 56:27
  Speaker 6: really helpslidify Willow as a top draw. And I think
• 56:30
  Speaker 6: it's key to that the TVs title won on a
• 56:33
  Speaker 6: Willow Now to end the year on a high note
• 56:35
  Speaker 6: like that, it was significant. It was a huge deal
• 56:38
  Speaker 6: for her to go over Mercedes, and it was a
• 56:40
  Speaker 6: great way to end the year. It's time to push
• 56:42
  Speaker 6: you know, Willows one of the top two or three,
• 56:46
  Speaker 6: top three women at least in there for aw great
• 56:50
  Speaker 6: story with her. I'd love to see these two run
• 56:53
  Speaker 6: a program. They didn't really get a true program for
• 56:56
  Speaker 6: the title run. I'd love to see them go back
• 56:58
  Speaker 6: and forth. I'd love to see to your point, Kelston,
• 57:01
  Speaker 6: she has an open challenge in Mercedes, I cash in
• 57:03
  Speaker 6: my rematch clause or whatever. You know, that would be great.
• 57:06
  Speaker 6: And then she wins it back and then and then
• 57:08
  Speaker 6: they go at it. I don't think the tag belts.
• 57:11
  Speaker 6: I was going to trym in earlier until you said it. Helson,
• 57:13
  Speaker 6: are going to go off until after a Grand Slam
• 57:16
  Speaker 6: because of Harley. I think I think Tony's going to
• 57:18
  Speaker 6: give her a big you know, heroes welcome there. Sure,
• 57:20
  Speaker 6: I don't know when after that, but I think you
• 57:22
  Speaker 6: were spot on. I think they're going to all those
• 57:24
  Speaker 6: tag you know.
• 57:24
  Speaker 2: What other thing that you can do.
• 57:25
  Speaker 3: Look, Barry, when when you look at the next big
• 57:29
  Speaker 3: pay per view is Revolution and it's not until March,
• 57:32
  Speaker 3: You've got a lot of time between now and Revolution
• 57:34
  Speaker 3: to do a big story. I would be at all surprised.
• 57:38
  Speaker 3: I mentioned Julia Hart earlier, all right, why not have
• 57:43
  Speaker 3: Julia Hart Mercedes Monet and Willow Nightingale in a three way?
• 57:47
  Speaker 3: But Julia Hart never got her rematch either.
• 57:50
  Speaker 6: It's true.
• 57:50
  Speaker 5: I got a question about that. They the Triangle did
• 57:54
  Speaker 5: a promo. You said something about Christadler probably be techna
• 57:59
  Speaker 5: being the next one. That kind of is what she
• 58:01
  Speaker 5: did in that who did the who did the who
• 58:04
  Speaker 5: did sky Blue and Juliet challenge or was it just
• 58:07
  Speaker 5: a basic we're gonna kick everybody's ass in the in
• 58:10
  Speaker 5: the tag division? Because I don't remember that part of it.
• 58:13
  Speaker 3: If they challenged somebody, I don't remember it either body.
• 58:16
  Speaker 5: Yeah, because I know they did it. They did it
• 58:18
  Speaker 5: on the last show, but I just didn't remember if
• 58:20
  Speaker 5: they had come out and said they're coming after the
• 58:22
  Speaker 5: tag titles or not.
• 58:23
  Speaker 2: I think that what.
• 58:24
  Speaker 3: They were doing on that particular promo was just echoing
• 58:30
  Speaker 3: Techla uh huh.
• 58:32
  Speaker 8: I think tech that needs to be the leader of
• 58:34
  Speaker 8: that group more. She's a better talker and and stuff.
• 58:39
  Speaker 8: I wouldn't mind seeing Tecla and Julia Hart be more
• 58:43
  Speaker 8: of a tag team and see what they can do together.
• 58:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 58:47
  Speaker 3: I was really upset that, uh, sky Blue did not
• 58:52
  Speaker 3: get her title. I would have much preferred for Juliet
• 58:57
  Speaker 3: Skyblue to win the initial tag team title, simply because
• 59:02
  Speaker 3: sky Blue has been there since almost the very beginning
• 59:07
  Speaker 3: of AW and she's never had a title, and she's
• 59:12
  Speaker 3: a workhorse and she's really good, and I just for
• 59:16
  Speaker 3: that reason alone, I really do feel like sky Blue
• 59:20
  Speaker 3: needs sky Blue needs a title. I wouldn't be surprised
• 59:23
  Speaker 3: if maybe you're right, Okay, maybe Tecla and Julia Hart
• 59:26
  Speaker 3: team up and sky Blue goes after Willow.
• 59:29
  Speaker 6: I thought the I was like, call me evil Doll
• 59:32
  Speaker 6: Twins or whatever. I thought they were there going to
• 59:35
  Speaker 6: be the ones that take the Belts. I don't know when,
• 59:37
  Speaker 6: but that was kind of who I had in my
• 59:39
  Speaker 6: mind would be would be the next winners at some
• 59:42
  Speaker 6: point after Grand Slam. But I agree, i'd like to
• 59:46
  Speaker 6: see sky get abell. I also, I know tecos with
• 59:50
  Speaker 6: the group because of her charisma, but I would like
• 59:54
  Speaker 6: them to give a chance for Julia Hart and Sky
• 59:57
  Speaker 6: Blue to talk on their own without the monotone twin stuff,
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 6: because that's just it does nothing, It's just bad.
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 6: Really, I'd like, you know, I'd like to see this
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 6: i Blue hal any charisma she seems to in the ring,
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 6: Like what is she on the mic? You know, give
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 6: Julia is starting to get, you know, some character after
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 6: they split when Malechi left and then you know she's
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 6: in this group now. I'd like to see them flush
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 6: the three of them out a little bit more.
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree. But remember the movie.
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 3: The Shining with Jack Nichol said they had those two
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 3: little girls standing at the end of the hallway.
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 2: That's what the sisters are saying. Remind me of they're.
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 3: Kind of they're not scary, but they're kind of like disturbing,
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 3: I guess.
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 2: Is the best way of putting it. But they don't
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 2: really do much.
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 7: Yeah, I think I think they're trying to do like
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 7: a whole weird Sisters from McBeth kind of thing, because
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 7: in that they would sometimes talk together and then sometimes
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 7: they would, you know, one would starting the other with finish.
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 7: I just don't think it's one of those things that
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 7: most people are really getting, and so it just seems
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 7: a little clunky and strange and the whole mon it's
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 7: not working for them.
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 3: Look, I'm a big fan of Julia Hart, I'm a
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 3: big fan of sky Blue, but I'm to be honest
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 3: with you, it's just their promos. They're it's they're just
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 3: not working. It's almost it's almost uncomfortable to watch them
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 3: just monotone.
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 5: I honestly seeing the sky leave, I can see her go.
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 2: Out on her own. Yeah that's true.
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 5: Maybe, uh, you know, because they could they could do that,
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 5: but they probably wouldn't. But they could just play this
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 5: all off that she's been under the influence of the
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 5: Spade and she turns and turns face and goes off
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 5: on her rooms.
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 3: Are the best friend Queen Aminada, you know, So to
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 3: get the chemistry going.
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 6: Give them some character. There's no reason that the only
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 6: one that's bombastic. You know, Blues got something give her,
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 6: you know, say, you know what I'm gonna do after that,
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 6: just like shrug off the stupid doll stuff for this.
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 6: You know, I'm just kind of promo. Let her go crazy,
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 6: see what happens.
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 3: You don't know what they can do, and yeah, give
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 3: a chance to succeed or fail, you know.
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 2: I mean it's as simple as that.
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 3: I'm really interested because the women's division right now is
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 3: wide open. High end in Maya World are wonderful, great additions.
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 3: You've got Zeta Steele uh and story Tonale you can't
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 3: forget about her, and Ring of Honor Lena Cross is
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 3: apparently coming really soon. There's also a chance for Charlie
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 3: or Dakota Kai to come over. Uh, it's gonna be interesting.
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 3: It's going to be interesting. I think the women's division
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 3: is boys to overtake the men's division as far as
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 3: what's drawing the most interest. I'm sorry, but I really
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 3: do feel that because it's new and it's fresh, and
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 3: they've got until the middle of March to really work
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 3: up some really good programs and aw and Tony Kahn,
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 3: they really need to pay attention to the women's division.
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 3: I really do feel that because they've got a good
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 3: roster and there's more coming. I really believe that there's
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 3: more coming and we'll see where it goes. Well, let's
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 3: go on to our well our po Perrie section. Does
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 3: anybody have a Pope Marie anything that they want to
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 3: talk about in the pro wrestling world or if you
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 3: want to talk about with Jadford during last night?
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 2: I guess that's fine too.
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 4: I do go for I wanted to bring this up
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 4: when we were talking about it, but I didn't get
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 4: a chance to. I think we may have all been
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 4: dupe Jericho, Chris Jericho by all intents and purposes and
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 4: through if you listen to most news outlets and if
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 4: you listen to the teasing of w W E themselves
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 4: was supposed to show up last night on the Stranger
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 4: Things edition of Raw. Guess what didn't happen?
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 2: I think it was w W wish Yeah, because that
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 2: really did. Who wasn't that made? Uh?
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 3: Pierce made like a reference to the walls coming coming?
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 3: Yeah exactly, and then he came up with this really
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 3: lay mass excuse.
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 4: It was reference. Yes, yeah, the actually that was that
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 4: was very deliberate because what I heard was that tickets
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 4: weren't selling so well for show. And when that little
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 4: nugget got dropped, guess what happened to ticket sales? Because
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 4: everybody thought they were going to see Jericho and wild
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 4: people who would.
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 3: But see that that was always blows my mind jaded
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 3: or maybe maybe I'm just in the Jericho vortex, but
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 3: why would you buy tickets just to see Chris Jericho?
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 2: I don't understand that.
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 5: To be honest, It's a tribal thing, it's a travel
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 5: thing because WWE fans honestly think that if Jericho shows
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 5: up and they get to go see him, it's getting
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 5: one over on Tony Kahan because we've seen you know,
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 5: that's it. Because they want Jericho back in WWE so
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 5: that they can say, look, he must the w must
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 5: really still suck, because now Jericho came back to us.
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 3: Well, I will say this something, and I mean this
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 3: in all sincerity, and I don't mean this in a
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 3: disrespectful way. I but look, I managed the three wrestling subreddits,
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 3: Instagram threads, Blue sky X, you know whatever, discord. Look,
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 3: you know what I've not heard anybody say, and I
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 3: could say this with full confidence. I have not heard
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 3: anybody say, gee, I wish Chris Jericho was would be
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 3: on a w this week.
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 2: Even with everything going on.
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 3: I have seen a couple of posts or comments being said,
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 3: is I would it be something if Jericho showed up
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 3: on Dynamite this week?
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that would be something. But it's not.
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 3: Because people want to see Jericho's because they want to
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 3: put the screws to WWE.
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 1: No.
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 4: I don't want to put anybody. I just like it
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 4: would be just it would be just my luck Jericho
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 4: hater that I am, for him to show up with
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 4: that shit eating grid of his going.
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 6: Hi, guys, Yeah, I don't have any ill will towards Jericho.
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 6: I know some people really don't like him. I don't
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 6: that's okay, Yeah, and that's okay. I don't have any
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 6: ill will. But I do think the Jericho situation really
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 6: shows why it's important that you have more than one
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 6: national wrestling organization. Chris tried to repackage himself a couple times,
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 6: and they put in a good effort on a push
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 6: and it's just not working out with the aw audience,
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 6: and his contract's going to be up, and if he
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 6: still wants to perform he's going to go to WWE
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 6: and he's going to do a retirement run there that
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 6: would just not hit the same way in AW and
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 6: I think that's a good thing. I don't see a
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 6: world where Chris coming back on TV as a as
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 6: a performer in the ring the fans are going to
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 6: want to see. I wished he had transitioned to commentary.
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 6: I really enjoyed him when he used to do that
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 6: as kind of a heel Bobby Heaton type commentator. But
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 6: you know, he wants to do other stuff. But again,
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 6: I think this shows why it's good you have two
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 6: promotions working at one place. He can go somewhere else
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 6: and hopefully it'll work out there.
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 3: Barry, let me give you a suggestion here, and I'm
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 3: interested to her your your opinion on this because I
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 3: was thinking about it. If a w were to retain
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 3: Chris Jericho. I mean, he's fifty five years old. He
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 3: could still go in the ring, but not for very
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 3: much longer. But I think, you know, I've heard people
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 3: say commentary. I've heard people say like having Jericho in
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 3: a roll of some similar to to MVP, for example
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 3: with the her syndicate, But what about in k Fabe
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 3: in k Fabe as an EVP.
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 6: Maybe, I don't know. I think the point is just
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 6: like Chris has just he's kind of run his course
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 6: in aw you know, so maybe maybe it would work.
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 6: I can't say it wouldn't, but I think the odds
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 6: are stacked against really anything they try to do at
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 6: this point. That's respect.
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 2: I respect that. I respect that, though I get it.
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 6: Could be convinced otherwise. But that's just kind of what
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 6: I said.
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 2: That's kind of the same way you are one hand.
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 3: I mean, I think that is Chris Jericho as Chris Jericho,
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 3: the ever evolving wrestling personality may have run his course,
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 3: but Chris.
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 6: Jericho actually, if he was just Chris Jericho as Chris Jericho,
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 6: I think that would actually be interesting, Like no gimmick,
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 6: Like that's just Chris Jericho, and like that's the shtick.
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 6: That could be funny.
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 3: But I just I could But I just say, like
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 3: if he came out, like as if he weaseled his
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 3: way somehow, some way into becoming an EVP, I think
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 3: that that would be entertaining.
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 2: I really do believe.
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 6: Could it could be? Could it could be?
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 2: But it also could you know, fall flat on its base.
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 6: You know, you never many good options that if they
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 6: weren't an aw probably would have worked well. The same
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 6: story in another promotion. I just I think in this case,
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 6: the fan base, it's just it's just a tough hill
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 6: to climb, no matter how good it is.
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 3: Yeah, well, look, does anybody else have a.
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 2: Potpourri?
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 7: I mean the usual and in New Japan round up
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 7: same because we had Russell Kingdom roughly three nights ago.
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 7: Three key matches to watch out of that if you
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 7: have it. Saya Tamatani versus Serry. That was a great match.
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 7: I admittedly I've seen both women before, but not you know,
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 7: not as much as like Helston has. I knew it
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 7: was going to be a good match, but they frick
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 7: and delivered in a big way.
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 12: It was too short it Yeah, another five seven minutes
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 12: I think would have really put it over into that, like, okay,
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 12: that was freaking off.
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 7: So instead it's just like that was really good. But
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 7: we did get two Match of the Year contenders took
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 7: keesco versus Yoda Suji. Was this all out freaking battle.
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 7: Those two through everything they had at each other and
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 7: in the end, I don't want to spoil it but
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 7: it was one of those that's how surprising ending but
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 7: also the perfect ending somehow.
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 3: And then to what I mean, you're not spoiling anything.
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 3: The event took place on what was it, Saturday night? Uh,
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 3: you know, we know what.
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 2: I have a feeling.
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 3: I know what you're talking about, but you haven't said
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 3: what you're talking about, so other people that are listening
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 3: to you probably don't know what you're talking about.
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 7: Yoda stuncy winning with the first move every young lion
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 7: learns in the dojo against the outsider, but winning the
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 7: title with the fundamental move of every young lion.
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 3: Okay, but you're you're you're know what you're talking about.
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 3: Nobody else knows what you're talking about. What are you
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 3: talking about? Just saying what are you doing? Okay the boss?
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I was wondering, given what I I don't know
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 4: if who knows, who knows? What's cafabian what isn't anymore?
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 4: Given what Yoda said about a e W, how do
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 4: you feel about that?
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 2: Did you just say cafabe.
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 13: I think that was one of those one of those
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 13: I just said, yes, that's the way.
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 3: I don't know what hysterical there you go, that is
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 3: worth comedy Adam calls. Was that worth five thousand, five
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 3: thousand Adam calls for cafabe.
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 7: I think those comments were one of those where he
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 7: was in character, but there was also a little personal
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 7: truth to it. And I understand. You know, Osbrey and
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 7: Ocado were big names for New Japan and they went
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 7: to a W and you know, to Casta showed up
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 7: for the T one and he showed up for big matches,
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 7: but all the other time he was in a W.
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 7: Even when he did go to Japan, he made time
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 7: for DDT, but not New Japan, you know, didn't even
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 7: what I mean. They had a Corrican show the road before.
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 7: He didn't show up for that. So I think the
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 7: comments were a little bit warranted, but definitely character more
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 7: than like outright just saying for a W.
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 3: So like said, well, let me ask this, how many
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 3: people watch Russell Kingdom twenty?
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 2: That's here it was.
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 7: I didn't, but I read about it, Yes, a number.
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 3: Now, how many people in the podcast watched Russell Kingdom twenty?
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 6: Of course I didn't. I will eventually, but I didn't.
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 1: I didn't.
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 4: I was too busy learning how to mispronounce K.
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 2: There you go.
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 7: Whatever if you don't have time to watch the whole show,
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 7: which under send people don't. I would say the three
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 7: matches to watch Saya Kamatani versus Shui Kenoski, Takeska versus
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 7: yokosuji Kiroshi Tanahashi versus Kazuo Okada, because that was one
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 7: of those masses. If you know the history, it meant
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 7: so much, and some of the tribute moves that Tanahashi
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 7: did to Shibata and knock at Moora mean that much
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 7: even if you I think it's one of those matches,
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 7: even in a vacuum, just on its own, it was
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 7: really good, like they told a great story and knowing
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 7: their history just enhances the story of the match.
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 3: They told you, I do want to break in here
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 3: because EPW show is in the chat. And he did
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 3: say that he enjoyed Russell Kingdom twenty and settle load
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 3: to everybody if you EPW show was on. Conrad was
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 3: on the podcast last week. We enjoyed having him. He
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 3: was doing his own podcast earlier tonight and I will
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 3: be after this show is edited, I will be going
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 3: and checking out that podcast.
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 2: Uh.
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 3: He did say that Aaron Wolf and Evil was a
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 3: good match too.
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 2: He enjoyed that. If you.
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 3: Go on to Everything Pro Wrestling on YouTube, you can
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 3: check out EPW shows, podcasts, and of course he is
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 3: our partner on Discord and Conrad's overall just a great guy.
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 3: Everybody that's that is that participates on the Everything Pro
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 3: Wrestling side of the hub is uh just outstanding. I
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 3: enjoy their shows. They're very well organized, They're very funny.
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 3: I do enjoy Conrad singing. He does not do it
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 3: often enough, but anyway, Uh yeah, I did watch Russell
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 3: Kingdom twenty. I watched the first two matches.
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 2: And that was really I really I.
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 3: I'm not I'm not a big While I respect New
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 3: Japan Pro Wrestling, I am not a fan of their matches.
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 3: They're just too slow and plotting for me my personal taste.
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 3: I was very invested in the Sayakamentani and Surrey match,
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 3: and so I watched that and went to bed, and
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 3: I have not watched anything else. I probably will go
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 3: back and watch the Takeshta match, and I'm pretty interested
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 3: now in checking out the Wolf versus Versus Evil. Isn't
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 3: Evil also one of those guys that may or may
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 3: not be available.
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 2: I think he's lead. Yeah, but is coming up.
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 3: But but I'm I'm pretty sure correct me if I'm wrong.
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  Speaker 3: I've heard that Tony Kahan is really not a fan
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 3: of Evil's work.
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 7: I don't he Evil's really one of those guys. He's
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 7: a good wrestler, but all all of the House of
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 7: Torture stuff is overshadowed his wrestling ability to a point.
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 7: And you know, the Aaron Wolf match, for me, it
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 7: was one of those I liked it because in the
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 7: end the good guy won, but there was just so
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 7: much House of Torture bs through wout like it kind
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 7: of just when I was like, Okay, I've been doing it,
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  Speaker 7: now I'm hating it. I've been doing it now I'm
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 7: hating it.
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  Speaker 6: Right, Yeah, Kelson, you're you're You're correct, Tony's not a
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 6: fan of his work.
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 2: But I thought I heard where has.
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 6: Mentioned that a couple of times. Sean Russa a couple
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 6: of times too.
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 3: He's No, that's interesting because I have really not heard
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 3: Tony being reported saying I'm not a big fan of
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 3: this person very often.
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 7: Jill, Yeah, yeah, I mean I really enjoyed Evil when
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 7: he was with l I J. But yeah, he's one
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 7: of those guys, the House of Torture stuff has heard
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 7: his overall futility.
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 3: Okay, well, does anybody else have a potpourrie that they
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 3: want to share with? Anybody share with us?
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 4: I already go ahead, go ahead, I already went you
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 4: go first.
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 2: I had one real quick.
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  Speaker 8: I was very disappointed that A W did Sorry, wwe
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 8: did not let knock Amore go go at least over
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 8: to Kingdom to wrestle Kingdom and at least be visible.
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 2: He's a low level guy.
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 8: I thought it would have shown great respect to let
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 8: him go over at least watch and be seen. But
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 8: that's how things work sometime in business.
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 2: I guess it didn't.
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I don't know if it was put in
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 3: the screws to AW. But did Knockmore say that he
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 3: tried to do everything he could to get over there,
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 3: but he was booked all of a sudden?
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 7: I guess, well, he wasn't booked at masses he would
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 7: book to do a one segment, So it's one of those.
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 7: It's one of those like, yeah, he was booked at
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 7: the last second, so he couldn't make it. Like it's
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 7: one of those Oh no, we really need him to
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 7: do this. No, yours is being petty. He could have
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 7: done it next week.
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 2: It's a shame.
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 3: I mean, look, when it comes to a when it
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 3: comes to a W and w W E Look, both
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 3: companies can do petty stuff and they have. I mean
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 3: when you think about it, when you think about it,
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 3: a W pushback there, uh, blood and Guts from May
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 3: June July, that's what every Blood and Guts is taken place.
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 3: They pushed it back to two weeks before wargames. Why
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 3: do you think that they did that because they knew
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 3: that Blood and Guts they have more freedom to do
• 1:21:17
  Speaker 3: more stuff that would make war games look weak.
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 6: And it proved right, I mean, that's just mar.
• 1:21:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 3: By the way, EPW Show also said it's something that
• 1:21:35
  Speaker 3: I was actually thinking too about Knockamore. He could have
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 3: set the video and that's the truth. He could have
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 3: set the video, but maybe not allowed to say even
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 3: send the video. That's yeah, exactly, we don't know.
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 6: The unfortunate thing is there's going to be more of
• 1:21:51
  Speaker 6: this because there is a generation of performers that are
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 6: all starting to retire now. And we saw it even
• 1:21:59
  Speaker 6: start with saying, you know, likes Luger couldn't be there
• 1:22:02
  Speaker 6: Sting couldn't do Luger's Hall of Fame thing, like, there's
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 6: there's going to be more of this, And I think
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 6: it's to your point Holton, it's it's a bummer because
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 6: there's a generation of guys who are all retiring now
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 6: and they only get to do this once.
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but look, did Billy got.
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 6: Politics are kind of getting the way.
• 1:22:20
  Speaker 2: Did Billy Gunn make an appearance at WWE and they
• 1:22:23
  Speaker 2: kind of threw him under the bus unnecessarily.
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 7: Was like, oh, yeah, now you work for that hiss company,
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 7: like the one who started the pettiness flat out.
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 6: Yeah, it's unfortunate. Regardless if that.
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 3: Had not happened, I think we may have seen a
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 3: W do more work with with With w W, there's
• 1:22:46
  Speaker 3: really no there. They are competitors, but they're not in
• 1:22:51
  Speaker 3: competition with each other. I guess that's the best way
• 1:22:54
  Speaker 3: I can.
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 7: I know, Ede said, you know him doing stuff with
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 7: John Steenen. I'm just gonna say, you know, definitely, yeah,
• 1:23:06
  Speaker 7: one is blocking more than the other.
• 1:23:11
  Speaker 6: I I this whole like, listen, it's business. They're both
• 1:23:16
  Speaker 6: going to screw each other over right. The can argue
• 1:23:19
  Speaker 6: blue in the face, who's worth who's worse. It doesn't
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 6: really matter. At the bottom line is it sucks because
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 6: there's people that deserve better that are unfortunately and to
• 1:23:28
  Speaker 6: get stuck in this crossfire and it's it's.
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 3: Well, Jess, I think you had an additional potpourri.
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 4: Uh yeah, just one little note here, just jumping off,
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 4: since we've been talking about New Japan throughout this whole potpourri,
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 4: I would like to say that with a heavy heart,
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 4: that with war dogs joining forces with what's it done? Yeah, yeah,
• 1:23:57
  Speaker 4: with them like forming that group, it is efficial. Actually,
• 1:24:00
  Speaker 4: the end of one of the most long running and
• 1:24:03
  Speaker 4: significant stables of the modern era.
• 1:24:05
  Speaker 2: R I P.
• 1:24:06
  Speaker 6: Bullet Club. Baby, Oh my gosh, what is that Italian?
• 1:24:18
  Speaker 2: I think it's French? What is it?
• 1:24:20
  Speaker 6: Jess would have made it's.
• 1:24:29
  Speaker 7: Yeah, I thought was the new announcery you hired?
• 1:24:34
  Speaker 6: Unless it's unless it's and then it's Spanish.
• 1:24:37
  Speaker 2: Kate Fabbe is not a new announcer.
• 1:24:39
  Speaker 3: It's Chris Jericho's new.
• 1:24:42
  Speaker 6: That he has a he has like a pencil mustache
• 1:24:47
  Speaker 6: and he wears like a Matador cape for no reason.
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 6: He's always handed out like like uh skewers, like pork skewers.
• 1:24:58
  Speaker 6: Everybody for no reason.
• 1:24:59
  Speaker 2: You want a.
• 1:25:03
  Speaker 3: You are never gonna I don't know what it is
• 1:25:05
  Speaker 3: with the women on this podcast say some of the
• 1:25:07
  Speaker 3: damnest things.
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 7: If we coms.
• 1:25:18
  Speaker 2: This is this is my brother Louis.
• 1:25:21
  Speaker 6: Wait Colson, Colson. Every time he walks into the room,
• 1:25:24
  Speaker 6: everybody has to stop and go.
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 5: It's can't get away without saying you could get that.
• 1:25:33
  Speaker 6: You can get that over with the crowd, like everybody
• 1:25:35
  Speaker 6: would wait here it.
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 2: Is okay, Chris Jericho.
• 1:25:40
  Speaker 3: We have just written a w needs to keep Chris
• 1:25:44
  Speaker 3: Jericho just for the Kafae gimmick.
• 1:25:47
  Speaker 7: We have just written gimmick would kill it. I am trying.
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 4: To say goodbye to Bullet Club and you.
• 1:25:56
  Speaker 6: Got mustache raywhere.
• 1:26:04
  Speaker 7: Comedy. I already cried enough she retired. I don't want
• 1:26:09
  Speaker 7: to be being gone to. Let us have very good.
• 1:26:14
  Speaker 2: There you go.
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 3: It's a Next week we are all doing we you
• 1:26:22
  Speaker 3: know I'm Italian, so I could do it. But next
• 1:26:25
  Speaker 3: week we are doing the entire podcast really bad.
• 1:26:35
  Speaker 6: Leave it up to very bad accents because I have
• 1:26:37
  Speaker 6: a very good German accent.
• 1:26:39
  Speaker 2: You know what are going to be right?
• 1:26:41
  Speaker 6: Coupa bye, No, no, it would be no, but you
• 1:26:54
  Speaker 6: change the lyrics, so it's all wrestling like when then
• 1:26:57
  Speaker 6: he hits your Tony Storms, big fat bye, It's god
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 6: there is that's the big fat fie.
• 1:27:11
  Speaker 2: It's big.
• 1:27:19
  Speaker 6: We gotta get that on. Commentary said, next time Tony
• 1:27:23
  Speaker 6: Storm gives somebody the button to the corner, Gettison's like, hey,
• 1:27:26
  Speaker 6: that's a Tony Khan.
• 1:27:28
  Speaker 3: You can mail your residual check for this idea to Hey,
• 1:27:33
  Speaker 3: w fat hob.
• 1:27:34
  Speaker 6: We just named it finisher.
• 1:27:38
  Speaker 7: It's thank you, thank you.
• 1:27:43
  Speaker 3: We need more women on this podcast, we really do.
• 1:27:47
  Speaker 3: Does they say the damnedest things? Oh?
• 1:27:51
  Speaker 2: What was it? All right?
• 1:27:54
  Speaker 6: So we gotta wrap up. My dogs are walking around
• 1:27:57
  Speaker 6: demanding to be let out.
• 1:27:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:28:00
  Speaker 3: Well I have a very short fab fabe listen to me, Jesus,
• 1:28:10
  Speaker 3: just a very short one. It's not really a discussion,
• 1:28:13
  Speaker 3: but I think it goes with pro wrestling. Eve is
• 1:28:17
  Speaker 3: doing a show in March called uh uh uh what
• 1:28:23
  Speaker 3: is it called? I can't remember? Russell Queen them Yes,
• 1:28:29
  Speaker 3: brand of Art. Will Osprey is a producer for for.
• 1:28:36
  Speaker 2: For Pro Wrestling Eve.
• 1:28:39
  Speaker 3: They are building a really really strong uh card for
• 1:28:45
  Speaker 3: this uh me Yamashada was just announced today. Harley Cameron,
• 1:28:50
  Speaker 3: I believe Alex windsor uh you Uh, Dakota Kai is
• 1:28:58
  Speaker 3: in it, Chris Statlanders in it.
• 1:29:01
  Speaker 2: Uh. This is gonna be a fantastic show. Uh.
• 1:29:04
  Speaker 3: And if and it's a it's accessible because there it's
• 1:29:08
  Speaker 3: their shows are they're in England, so they start in
• 1:29:12
  Speaker 3: the afternoon, like three o'clock in the afternoon. So you know,
• 1:29:15
  Speaker 3: if you love women's wrestling, this would be a great
• 1:29:18
  Speaker 3: show to watch. And that's that. Mkay, you need the
• 1:29:23
  Speaker 3: mute buddy. Anyway, that's our show for the week. Thank
• 1:29:28
  Speaker 3: you for uh watching and listening, and we will be
• 1:29:33
  Speaker 3: back next Tuesday night at eight forty Conrad. You're welcome
• 1:29:38
  Speaker 3: to join us next week.
• 1:29:40
  Speaker 2: Please please do.
• 1:29:42
  Speaker 7: We loved having you.
• 1:29:45
  Speaker 3: It was so much fun. I really did enjoy it.
• 1:29:48
  Speaker 3: I'm not just saying that because you owe me money
• 1:29:50
  Speaker 3: or I owe you money.
• 1:29:52
  Speaker 2: That was earlier.
• 1:29:58
  Speaker 6: Man, what's it called in some and he goes, it's
• 1:30:00
  Speaker 6: called I.
• 1:30:05
  Speaker 2: Don't know.
• 1:30:06
  Speaker 6: I just said it.
• 1:30:12
  Speaker 2: It's late. Yeah, Barry, apologize to your dogs for me.
• 1:30:17
  Speaker 3: We will be back on Tuesday of next week at
• 1:30:22
  Speaker 3: eight forty five Eastern time for another episode of Ignition,
• 1:30:26
  Speaker 3: and we will try to do better.
• 1:30:29
  Speaker 2: I just don't know what else.
• 1:30:30
  Speaker 6: We will try to do better.
• 1:30:34
  Speaker 2: I know this show? How many?
• 1:30:36
  Speaker 6: How many pictures of Adam Nicole?
• 1:30:37
  Speaker 2: Would we write? This show?
• 1:30:39
  Speaker 3: Honestly, I would rate it around sixty three hundred.
• 1:30:47
  Speaker 6: Seventy sixty seven A good D plus.
• 1:30:51
  Speaker 2: Wait a minute, Christ Chris said seventy five. Was that bad? No,
• 1:30:57
  Speaker 2: seventy five hundred, Well you said seventy five.
• 1:31:00
  Speaker 7: Ah, that's sorry, you.
• 1:31:03
  Speaker 3: Know, man, We gotta we, we gotta go. Everybody saying
• 1:31:09
  Speaker 3: good night.
• 1:31:10
  Speaker 6: Eddy Kingston, good night Eddie Kingston.
• 1:31:16
  Speaker 2: Not even there. Our flight is in.
• 1:31:19
  Speaker 7: Okay, Bobby, Bobby, Okay. I