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Episode 87: Iconic Entrances and Exits from Our Favorite Original Trilogy Characters · Most Things Kenobi - A Star Wars Podcast

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  Hello, there. It's time for most things
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  Kenobi. Hi everyone, welcome to another
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  episode of most things Kenobi. A podcast about Obi-Wan Kenobi
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  and all things Star Wars. I'm your host Lauren, and I'm
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  your host Leanne, and this week, we are going to discuss
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  entrances. And exits.
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  Yeah, which is a lot harder than we ever thought possible.
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  Yes. Well, this was recommended To Us
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  by one of our listeners, they emailed us and gave us this idea
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  and it's such a good idea but what?
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  Once we got into it, we started to realize, it's a little
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  complicated. Yeah.
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  Well before we talk about all of this and what the entrances, the
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  exits, everything in between, we have a special message for one
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  Yes, May the force be with you. Hopefully this episode brings
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  some laughter and to your day. And As you up.
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  in person as well. It did yes it's a real pleasure
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  and a rare treat for us. We don't get to meet our
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  listeners in person that also that.
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  And I just, I love it. I love it.
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  It's really cool. It's really cool what this
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  podcast has brought together. Yes, agreed.
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  And now on to the mess, this is a mess.
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  Oh my God. We literally had to iron out.
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  How the hell we were going to do this because it seemed quite
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  simple by definition, right? So characters, entrances there,
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  exits. What our favorite one is?
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  We're going to try a boil it down to that, but when I was
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  researching it, I realized like, oh God, some of these characters
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  show up in sequels, some of these To show up in the
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  Mandalorian. Some of them are not ghosts.
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  Some of them are Force ghosts after.
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  So it's like we didn't know how to handle all of this.
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  The original concept was kind of like, when's the first time you
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  see them compared to the last time you see them and that keeps
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  changing the more dominant comes out.
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  So I was like, okay. So OB 1 the first time we see
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  him is an old man. So do we talk about that or do
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  we talk about the first time we see?
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  See him as a young man, it just got really complicated.
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  Got it got complicated really fast.
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  So Lauren had the idea, let's bottle this funnel it down into
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  pieces installments. Like you often have to do
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  because the Star Wars universe is massive.
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  Right, so what we did was we split up five characters each
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  from the original trilogy and we'll just deal with the
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  original trilogy this episode and then we'll do other
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  installments later. Yeah.
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  And their entrances. Exits from those installments
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  because like everything is so out of order, you know, we keep
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  getting New Media, you know, the Kenobi show.
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  Really throws a wrench in a lot of this.
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  So you didn't know you had to be Stephen Hawking or Albert
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  Einstein and like, figure out where, in the timeline we are,
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  it's so true. So we overly complicated.
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  Yeah, this is, this is Going to be funny.
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  I think because we are going to talk about the first time we see
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  the character in the original trilogy, the last time we see
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  them and what our favorite is. All right, well who goes first?
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  Well, let's see character-wise. Who do we see first?
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  I think we see Luke first right out of everyone that we have in
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  our list. No.
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  Oh, you're right? Yes.
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  No. You're right.
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  No, it's not. It's course it's not loose.
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  It is show up droids. Yeah, he doesn't show up for 30.
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  Five minutes that's okay. Is when he does.
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  Yeah you're right. It's the droids which we each
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  have one of each so we could just do that together.
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  I would say yes. Well their bumbling fools and
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  mostly C-3PO which is the one that I have bless your heart.
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  Yeah. Well, we first see him waving
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  his hands and walking quickly and oh no we're too we must get
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  out of here. You know, has faders just down
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  the All way. So yeah, 33 pills just being
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  threepio and you don't the best part about his entrance into the
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  entire Saga. Let alone the original trilogy
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  is that there's no mistaking, who the hell he is.
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  He stays true, the entire way through.
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  Yeah. Every iteration?
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  Yep, even animated. So really the First characters
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  we see are the droids. Yeah.
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  And R2 is right next to him, being exactly how our to always
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  is. Yes.
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  And that's kind of how We see them the first time in each of
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  the original movies, like the, it's a New Hope Empire Strikes
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  Back. Return of the Jedi, we always
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  see our two and three people walking down a corridor or in
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  Return of the Jedi. They're heading to Jabba's
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  Palace. Yeah bickering.
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  Yeah. And that's why I love them.
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  They've been around since the absolute dawn of Star Wars time
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  when it's interesting to see them.
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  Now that we know how important They are to Anakin.
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  Yeah yeah and how they play such a role in his children's lives
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  but yeah both of them for sure right up until the very end it's
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  crazy. I've always said that R2 is a
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  relic but three bureaus also, a relic he was built by Anakin and
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  he makes it like all the way to the end and then some so, right
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  and Beyond. And one we've said before that
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  R2 is telling the story. The Skywalker story.
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  Yeah, that was kind of like, one of the original ideas of the
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  show or the show, the the universe.
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  Well, yeah, that the show he hasn't had his memory wiped
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  right? Which is why he's such a gem,
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  that's why he's always bickering.
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  He said to go through how many Skywalker's she many?
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  Yeah, too many. Okay, so the last time we see
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  them as again, they're together. They're in This Together shot
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  together which is basically the last time we See everybody in
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  the you know this is gonna be this is gonna be a common theme
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  in this episode but the together on Endor right at the Ewok
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  celebration where threepio has been playing a God and our to
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  happen just done I just love so much.
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  That threepio is kind of like the golden Crucible of the walks
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  like it's like little. Do they know he's such a
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  bumbling idiot? Yes he couldn't be more opposite
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  of that title, which is why it's so cute make and when you see
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  ever been respected that much not much not not for some time,
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  not around Han Solo piano on some somebody shut him up.
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  Oh man han was so mad. The threepio is getting treated
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  so well yeah and they were tied two sticks ready to be spit
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  roast. So It's great but they're there
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  at the end, which is nice. Do you have a favorite entrance
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  of threepio a favor and Trent's? I would say well my favorite
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  threepio moment is when he has, it's not really an entrance.
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  So I don't know if it counts is when he says that he was happy
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  to be there. All along beside his friend.
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  Are 200 is my favorite threepio moment.
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  That's in Rises Skywalker, right?
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  I think so. It's one of the sequels.
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  Yeah. So sad and so it's like the one
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  time we see him like super serious and heartfelt even you
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  know as far as an entrance. I kind of like when chewy picks
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  up all of his pieces in Empire Strikes Back and it just slings
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  them over his back. Is that considered an entrance?
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  Yeah, I think that counts. It's great.
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  And our two favorite. I mean there's so many my God,
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  honestly. I think one of my favorites is
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  when he wakes back up. And what is that?
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  Force awakens? Yeah.
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  Because we're so used to him being there.
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  So for him to not be there and then he comes back alive.
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  I think that was, it made me feel hopeful, you know, it's
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  like oh things could be okay because our choose awake.
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  Yeah, right. The next character we see is
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  Vader, right? Yeah.
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  Yeah, and that is his. That's his main entrance of all
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  time and I love it. So I have Vader his entrance.
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  Is he walks through the smoke. Puts his hands on his belt and
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  looks around like the fuck is this.
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  This is all the better. You could do but, you know, like
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  I can't. I just know under that helmet.
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  He's looking around at his feet at all the dead Rebels and stuff
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  and the dead Stormtroopers. Like fuck.
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  None of these are who Wanted you know, like and we know what
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  happens right before this scene. So he's oddly calm, but, you
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  know, he's he's seething underneath there in his calm,
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  like, I'll take care of this later.
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  This is an atrocity, clean this up.
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  Like, that's the first time we see him, he just, It's oddly
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  appropriate, that he comes through the smoke and he's this.
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  You hear the breathing? He's this imposing black figure
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  in a white horse. Hallway.
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  Yes really good. As far as like cinematically
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  speaking to introduce probably one of the world's greatest
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  villains in such a magnificent manner.
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  He's the only thing you're staring at because he's all
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  black in a sea of white, right? And the smoke is the added.
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  Like if Vader could he would have had a fog machine
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  everywhere. Like Beyonce, Beyonce has the
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  fan Vader, has the smoke machine.
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  Yeah, Vader's gonna smoke machine and its name in lights.
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  It's behind him. Yes.
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  Yes. Flashing, neon red lights.
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  And that's when we first see him, shit.
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  So compare that, to the last time we see him, well, it gets
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  complicated because, of course, original trilogy.
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  Only, it's still complicated because the last time we see
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  him, I think it's when Luke takes his helmet off, and we see
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  him. See him, right?
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  And then he dies. But the last scene that we see
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  him as Vader is on the pyre that Luke sex, right?
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  But then that's not even clear because then we see Anakin has
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  emerged from Vader as a force ghost.
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  So all of this is the end of Return of the Jedi as we know.
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  Yeah. But of course just like, Anakin
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  nothing is simple. He had to do it extra and his
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  and his exit was threefold. It's got is how I agree part
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  exit. It is as it should be.
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  That's interesting. And what you're saying about
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  Vader is going to be interesting because it ties into Leia who is
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  who is next? But uh but yes what's your
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  favorite Vader? Entrance verbs before, 100%.
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  No, no qualms. No hesitation Rogue one if there
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  was ever a fucking Diva with a lightsaber.
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  It's him. That is the entrance to beat all
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  entrances. Yeah.
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  Maybe maybe bested. Just a little bit by his son as
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  we'll talk about, right? Vader's best entrance is by far
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  the Rogue one hallway scene, completely agree.
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  It's so dramatic. You have a is that your
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  favorite? That would be.
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  The only thing that's like a very close.
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  Second is his appearance on My Puzo in the Kenobi series
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  because that was very are very good terrifying and amazing.
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  Yes. When he first shows up and he's
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  walking, they just feet in the Cape is fluttering.
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  Yeah, I love that heat. He stops like looks at 0 b 1 and
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  I'm just like, yeah, so good. That was great.
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  So good. So that's a close.
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  Second to Rogue one. But Rogue one was so impactful,
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  when I first thought I judge that based on the fact that it
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  immediately made me cry like within seconds of that
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  lightsaber igniting. Yeah, in the theater.
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  I was I was already Balling. It has to stack up against that.
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  I didn't ball at that point in Kenobi.
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  I was just like jaw dropped, which is a pretty good second.
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  Yeah. Yeah, pretty good.
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  I was shaking but I wasn't as emotional as I was in Rogue one.
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  So that's what broke one wins. Okay.
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  So right after Vader coming down the hallway and the droids
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  running through the ship's then we see Princess Leia.
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  Yes. Iconic and her Shot is the
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  opposite of Vader's where she's in a hall or side compartment.
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  That's all dark. Yeah.
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  And she's in the center with R2 and she and R2 are white in this
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  sea of dark and they're even backlit by this white light that
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  makes it look Angelic. And there's like these red
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  lights in front of them to imply that the Empire circling them,
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  you know, it's so good. It's so it is Iconic.
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  It's The hood. Mmm and the first time we see
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  Carrie Fisher's face so good and it's just for a second in that
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  moment, you don't see her until she stands up from our to takes
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  a quick look and then vanishes behind one of the partitions.
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  The next time you see her, she's holding a blaster.
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  You know, it's so good. She's awesome.
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  It's so it's so different than how so many characters were
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  portrayed at that time. Female Quavers.
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  When you think about the juxtaposition between Vader and
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  Leia like in sequence like that. Hmm.
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  That's pretty. That's pretty good.
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  It's pretty cool. And like, of course, it's, it
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  could be as simple as just good versus evil, but the fact that
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  it's father and daughter, oh, I know knowing what we know.
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  Yeah, it's so much more interest to it.
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  It's really cool. And then I get.
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  So the last time we see Leia is again and Return of the Jedi
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  where Luke is like off by himself and she goes up to him.
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  Hugs him and brings him back. His family basically.
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  Yeah, and I love that. Yeah, I love it too.
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  And it's, you know, it's so representative of like, how Leia
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  is that grounding Force for everybody?
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  Yeah, and they know now that they're brother and sister
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  twins. I don't know if you have this
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  written down or if I'm stealing it from you.
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  But she's all kind of wrapped up in her entrance and her hair's
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  done up tight and you know, her signature buns.
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  And then in Return of the Jedi, she's free flowing or hairs
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  down, you're right. Right, you know, kind of natural
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  and the greens and the Browns and stuff.
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  And yeah, that's a really good point.
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  And she gets there gradually like even throughout Return of
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  the Jedi you know because like at the beginning she's she shows
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  up in a bounty hunter costume and by the end she's like
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  softened and but she's not. That's the thing I love about
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  Leia is she can have like her hair down and be soft but also
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  shoot you. No, she's not soft by any means.
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  Don't miss Take her soft hair. Yeah, she's still a general so,
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  oh yeah. All the way.
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  So, I had like one of my favorite moments with her or her
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  entrances when she comes up to Tarkin, and she says, she
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  recognized his foul stench when she was brought on.
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  Hope. It doesn't really get much
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  better than that. Yeah, the only thing that comes
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  close to me is when she blasts po across the room that Yeah.
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  Well, yeah, I mean, even then she was softened because she was
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  like, literally like healing. Yeah.
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  And then she just gets out and shoot somebody.
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  It's like, I'm still here bitch. Like yeah, at the children,
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  misbehaving for fuck's sake, for fuck's sake, let me get out of
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  bed, let me put my cape on, let me go figure out what's going on
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  like, oh my God, her, I love her, I love her, I love her.
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  What's one of your favorite entrances?
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  My God. It's hard to pick.
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  It would have to be. Oh, boy.
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  How do I pick? It's a tie.
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  It's a tie. When we first see her in force
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  awakens. I was so Overjoyed to see her
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  like mac on screen. Yeah.
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  So that's like my personal. Okay.
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  But like the best Leia, entrance, I think.
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  Is probably when she's in her cell and Luke comes to.
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  I'm Luke Skywalker, I'm here to rescue and she's just laying
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  there. Like aren't you a little short
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  for a stormtrooper? Like if that isn't the best
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  entrance of her character as I never going to get up?
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  No, she's just like really so much like her father, I just
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  yes, you know, like did wasn't Anakin in a cell and Obi-Wan
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  finally shows up and he's like, what took you so long?
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  Finally. Yeah.
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  And then they died was in Clone Wars Baker the entire time
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  after. Yeah, who lost it says, what
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  we're talking about in last week's episode were?
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  There it is. So I can't help but say that
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  like the door sliding open to reveal a recently tortured,
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  princess who still has her snark?
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  I mean, that's that's lay in a nutshell, so yeah, yeah.
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  Yeah. All right now it's time for
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  Luke. I believe Luke.
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  I have Luke which you said how many minutes into New Hope where
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  we introduced to him a long time.
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  It's at least, I would say 20 minutes before we see him.
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  So we are introduced to Luke as the farm boy, the young farm
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  boy, who was just trying to help his uncle.
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  Kind of kind of disassociated with little bit of reality, is
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  reality, you know, he doesn't know that the He's well taken
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  care of in that respect. They kept him sheltered for a
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  reason, but what a difference from his exit, you know, the
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  hero's journey. Oh my gosh, he is one of the
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  characters he transforms the most I would say or yeah.
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  Maybe the most that, I everybody.
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  Yeah, maybe. Besides anicut new quite
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  literally, physically changes. But Luke starts to change like
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  him. Also, yeah.
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  I mean, we see it all the way through the original trilogy.
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  In the first scene is see, at the kitchen table, or is he at
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  is yet? Trying to get parts, I can't
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  remember, he's coming up the stairs.
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  Yeah, it's just inspect the droids with his uncle.
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  Okay, I mean it's pretty basic. I love that scene, honestly.
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  It's so innocent it is and I don't have another word for it.
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  The first thing he does is listen to his aunt.
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  Tell him to get some stuff for the house and he's like, yeah,
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  yeah, I'll try. Yeah.
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  And he's the Big Hero. Saves the Galaxy.
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  Yeah. He's literally the stuff he does
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  between just the beginning of that movie and the end of that
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  movie, let alone the beginning of that original trilogy, and
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  the end of the original track. And then we can talk about the
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  whole, everything else that he's influence.
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  But right. Luke is dead.
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  I mean, we begin with an innocent sheltered individual
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  who has this huge back story of why he's that way.
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  And then he chooses to kind of shed.
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  That and become what he ends up becoming.
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  Yeah. So the last time we see him is
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  opposite of Leia. He's, they're having a moment
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  with his father, you know, these on the pyre.
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  He's the Flames are there, which is also very symbolic, but he
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  has a peaceful smile on his face.
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  He's intense as the Flames were there, but he's content.
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  Yeah. How this is all wrapped up, you
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  know, he knows he had to go, he did the best he could.
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  At PC knows Anakin's at peace, right?
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  He redeemed his father basically and literally he's just burning
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  the suit that his father was imprisoned in mmm.
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  And then he sees the three Force ghosts appear and he has a
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  smile, that kind of confirms what he suspected.
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  Anyways, that he was at peace. And then his Obi-Wan and Yoda,
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  and Anakin has young Jedi the last time he was a Jedi, so it's
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  very peaceful. Yeah, he's so So beautiful and
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  that scene, I love bodies. So Mark Hamill like when he's
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  turning and walking like profile and then turns.
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  Yeah. Oh my God.
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  It just like, I could rewind it all the time.
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  Yes, his jaw could cut glass, seriously.
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  I love him but he goes through quite a transformation.
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  And that's why the original trilogy is my favorite.
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  It's because of Luke. Oh my God.
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  I'm just realizing that's exactly what he does.
• 22:24
  The first time we see him, he turns and moves the Direction.
• 22:28
  Oh he walks up the stairs with his head down, he turns to the
• 22:32
  his left and walks, oh my God, that's crazy.
• 22:35
  And so the only one that would notice that I would never notice
• 22:38
  it. It's just cuz I watched it six
• 22:41
  million times. So I haven't memorized.
• 22:43
  But that's so cool to see that. He's still the same person.
• 22:47
  Yeah like inside. He's like there's that beautiful
• 22:51
  parallel but he is completely grown and had his mind expended
• 22:57
  Oh, very how do you pick a vest? Oh, I know how.
• 23:02
  I know how Skywalker's and hallways go together.
• 23:06
  Like I don't know what they go together like but they go
• 23:11
  together perfectly my favorite. Luke entrance is in the
• 23:17
  Mandalorian the season finale. Were Luke returns to screen, so
• 23:22
  to speak and pulls a little bit of an attic, and in that
• 23:26
  hallway. But much different, he's mowing
• 23:31
  down and kicking ass taking names.
• 23:33
  Taking heads off a droids at that's an entrance Force.
• 23:37
  Crushing droids Force crushing and throwing I can't.
• 23:42
  It's so good. That's my favorite.
• 23:44
  Luke entrance ever. Yeah, although there's so many
• 23:47
  to choose from. There are many damn.
• 23:49
  There are. There's like I even love when he
• 23:53
  says I'm Luke Skywalker. I'm here to rescue you.
• 23:55
  Yeah. Well so when is it up?
• 23:57
  The helmet off. Yeah.
• 23:58
  Perfect hair. It's insane.
• 24:01
  He's so hopeful like I'm here. I'm gonna rescue.
• 24:03
  You has no idea. He thought that was it.
• 24:05
  That was the end of that so it's gonna get worse.
• 24:08
  Dear. Yeah I do and I also love his
• 24:10
  entrance to Jabba's Palace where because we haven't seen him
• 24:13
  since he's been injured. You know he got his hand cut off
• 24:16
  and then the like the doors open and he comes in as a silhouette
• 24:20
  which is super Vader e. It's so great though.
• 24:23
  Cape whooshing. Yeah.
• 24:25
  And it chokes the gumbo Lori had switched is the problem that's
• 24:29
  morally questionable but he doesn't kill them, right?
• 24:34
  He just puts them to sleep. Oh, yeah.
• 24:36
  No, no. Yeah, that's all, that's all.
• 24:39
  Yeah, I tell myself right? Right, there's no gurgling
• 24:43
  sounds coming from throats at all, but whatever.
• 24:47
  He's just trying to figure it out.
• 24:49
  He's new to it. Yeah, one of my favorite, Luke
• 24:53
  entrances is when he's at the medal ceremony.
• 24:56
  Oh my God. Yes, I so adorable.
• 24:59
  He's so adorable. I love it.
• 25:01
  I do too. He's, so it's Mark Hamill.
• 25:04
  Okay, if it was any other actor that like, innocent Joy.
• 25:09
  It's just like pure joy. It's because he was loving.
• 25:12
  He just loves what he does. You know.
• 25:14
  Yeah, he's a super nerd and he loves this kind of stuff and it
• 25:18
  just shows that his face. It wouldn't have been the same
• 25:21
  with anybody else. All right so who's next Obi-Wan
• 25:26
  II have 0, b 1. And I just have to start by
• 25:30
  saying that krayt dragon sound effect has gotten worse over the
• 25:36
  years. I hate the one they have on
• 25:42
  there right now of him going. Whoa.
• 25:45
  Like I just can't picture ob1 making that sound.
• 25:50
  It's just so upsetting I'm not. Okay.
• 25:56
  With it. I liked it far more back in the
• 25:59
  day when it sounded more like an animal true.
• 26:03
  Granted, when I was a kid, I didn't realize 0 b, 1 was the
• 26:06
  one who made this sound, so I get it there and to make it
• 26:09
  sound more like a person made up, I'm not okay, or whatever.
• 26:12
  It's terrible. But you're, it's the same as the
• 26:15
  no, oh God, the COS terrible physical pain when I say.
• 26:20
  Absolutely. But so the first time we see
• 26:24
  Obi-Wan Kenobi is, In the jungle and wastes.
• 26:28
  When Luke has been attacked by sand people, he appears hobbling
• 26:33
  over the desert new cloak, you can't see his face.
• 26:37
  He's just this hooded cloaked figure, and he kneels down and
• 26:41
  places his hands over Luke's forehead, and then turns,
• 26:45
  because he hears our to takes the hood off and says hello
• 26:47
  there and makes cinematic history.
• 26:51
  Complete cinematic, history of didn't know it at the time.
• 26:55
  Yeah. But, but here we are.
• 26:58
  Well, I was watching this. It was kind of it occurred to me
• 27:01
  that he sing. Hello there.
• 27:02
  And then he says to our to come here, my little friend, don't be
• 27:05
  afraid and he's like talking to the audience.
• 27:09
  Oh yeah, I guess he's speaking right to us.
• 27:12
  He's inviting us to the adventure.
• 27:15
  And this whole scene is a really important part of the hero's
• 27:19
  journey. It's, there's always a spot
• 27:23
  where the hero is minding his own business going to about his
• 27:26
  life. And he bumps into a wise old man
• 27:30
  who offers him A New Path and it leads to the first refusal or
• 27:36
  the call refused. That's exactly what happens
• 27:39
  here. And it's an actually it's a
• 27:41
  really important step in Luke's Journey as a whole, of course,
• 27:46
  it's op1 course. It is, it has to be.
• 27:50
  We all know, there's so much more back story to this.
• 27:54
  Yeah, it's so much More impactful than ever.
• 27:58
  It's just another iconic Star Wars seen.
• 28:00
  A lot of his moments are really iconic and really plot driving
• 28:06
  so to speak. Like all we want doesn't show up
• 28:09
  that much in the original trilogy, but when he does, it
• 28:12
  always like really pushes forward.
• 28:14
  One of the characters plots mostly Luke but also Leia in a
• 28:17
  sense. So the last time we see him
• 28:19
  alive is on, is in a New Hope at the end when he's fighting Vader
• 28:24
  and he sees Luke. And then he holds the saber up
• 28:27
  and Vader kills and he disappears, but do that scene
• 28:30
  has so much more meaning because of the community series.
• 28:34
  Oh, so much more and when much more you Celia run into the
• 28:39
  room. And she kind of like stops.
• 28:40
  And looks at only one? Yeah.
• 28:43
  Okay, it's a whole new. It's a whole new world, but it's
• 28:48
  like, fucking insane. And I forgot to mention in the
• 28:51
  last, when Vader's alive scene, we get that cut It on his
• 28:56
  fucking head. Oh yeah.
• 28:58
  And that's from the Kenobi series to now, like, all of
• 29:02
  these things, like layer running in and seeing OB want any Smiles
• 29:06
  at both of them like his journey is done.
• 29:09
  Yeah. Well, if you want to count the
• 29:11
  last time we see him, as in the whole original trilogy, he's a
• 29:15
  force ghost at the end of Return of the Jedi with Anakin and Yoda
• 29:20
  standing there. Looking at Luke like mission
• 29:23
  accomplished, although I will say Shouldn't Qui gonn be there
• 29:27
  now? Yes, Dad.
• 29:30
  Qui-Gon in. I was gonna say, are they get a
• 29:31
  Photoshop him in later? No.
• 29:34
  No. Maybe Qui-Gon said, you know,
• 29:36
  I'm going to skip this one because of everything that
• 29:40
  Anakin did. I don't want to hang out with
• 29:42
  Obi-Wan. No I'm just I'm cool.
• 29:46
  I'll just hang out over here. Let you three have your moment.
• 29:52
  I'll speak to the boy afterwards.
• 29:54
  Go over a few things. We have things to discuss.
• 29:57
  Yeah, yeah. They have a little bit of
• 30:00
  catching up to do. Yeah.
• 30:02
  Well, a favorite entrance for him is very difficult because
• 30:06
  every entrance with Obi-Wan is dramatic and every entrance is
• 30:11
  golden, I do like the cloak drops, you know, when he just oh
• 30:18
  I know, they've promised yeah, the cape.
• 30:21
  Top is. Yeah, it's good but I do.
• 30:24
  I also really like in the lawless when he comes into the
• 30:27
  cell with Satine and says I do my own bidding, I really like
• 30:31
  that. Also, I was going to say the
• 30:33
  same episode when he the doors open and he's facing the war
• 30:38
  that's beyond. Oh yeah.
• 30:41
  It could be considered an exit. That's true.
• 30:44
  It's also an entrance. It's a threshold, he's a threat.
• 30:47
  Thank you. Yes.
• 30:48
  It could be either depending on how you look at it.
• 30:51
  It's so dramatic, we could spend a whole episode and maybe we
• 30:54
  will on just Obi-Wan and entrances and exits.
• 30:58
  Because seriously, because he has any, he has many.
• 31:02
  Yeah. There's a lot as first-line
• 31:06
  chronologically in The Phantom Menace In The Phantom.
• 31:09
  Menace has I have a bad feeling about this which I have always,
• 31:13
  he's a fucking Padawan and he's not even talking about.
• 31:17
  Because Qui gonn says like, keep your mind in the here and now
• 31:20
  he's not sensing now. Obi-Wan is sensing the Galaxy at
• 31:23
  large is not at rest. Like there's something weird and
• 31:26
  wrong going on, he sensing his life, he's sensing everything
• 31:32
  that's about to happen to him over the next like 60 years.
• 31:36
  He's sensing everything that's going to happen after.
• 31:40
  He's a force goes, he's the man, never escaping, never escaping
• 31:46
  that. He has a bad feeling about all
• 31:48
  of this. The irony, but so good and so
• 31:54
  sad, I think Obi-Wan's entrances and exits in the original
• 31:59
  trilogy might be the most crucial.
• 32:01
  They are because they're there are few and far between, but
• 32:04
  each one, like I said, is poignant.
• 32:07
  Yes. Like I said, basically, every
• 32:09
  time they change this scene, it's moving Luke further and
• 32:12
  further down the path towards the hero, you know.
• 32:16
  Yeah. And away from his life as a farm
• 32:18
  boy, which leads us into hon, guess who Ooh, I don't have you
• 32:22
  have, I have that. Did you say your favorite ob1?
• 32:25
  Well, there's too many. Yeah, I mean, my favorite is his
• 32:31
  a r is his first appearance because it's like fucking
• 32:34
  iconic. Oh, so that was your okay.
• 32:37
  Yeah, I mean I didn't specifically say, but I mean to
• 32:40
  go through them all would be too tedious.
• 32:42
  So I'll just go with his very first hello there because it's
• 32:46
  the hello there, that launches a thousand.
• 32:48
  Hello. There's So this is always that
• 32:53
  launched a thousand ships. Yes, you got it.
• 32:59
  Oh my God, I love it. So yes hon.
• 33:03
  Dear han han and by default Chuy's since they're always
• 33:07
  together. Yes.
• 33:08
  Yes. Can't have one without the
• 33:10
  other. No.
• 33:11
  The first time you see, hon. He's sliding into his seat in
• 33:14
  the MOs Eisley Cantina. And so cool.
• 33:19
  Yeah. He's super Suave.
• 33:21
  But that's what I like about the scene.
• 33:23
  Because to start, he's super, arrogant, he's really Suave even
• 33:27
  kind of like verbally spars with Luke little bit.
• 33:29
  No big ones like that. I got this.
• 33:35
  I know how to handle a Skywalker.
• 33:36
  Stay out of it. Yeah.
• 33:37
  Yeah, exactly. I've dealt with Hondo ohnaka.
• 33:40
  I can deal with Han Solo. So as soon as they're gone
• 33:44
  though, hon, flips and he's like, wow, this could really
• 33:47
  save my neck. So it gives us a sense right
• 33:51
  away. That he's a bit of a scoundrel.
• 33:53
  He's playing a bit of a scam. He's all obviously going to be
• 33:57
  the comedic relief. Yes, but also, he has his own
• 34:03
  journey to heroism, he does. Yeah.
• 34:06
  And it's pretty cool to see that because I just have to say that
• 34:10
  in Empire Strikes Back. The first time we see him, he
• 34:13
  starts by having a fight with Chewy and goes into having a
• 34:17
  fight with Leia right away. Yes, no, he's not at peace.
• 34:21
  He's no, he's oh my God. Well, yes, he's fighting with
• 34:27
  himself to because he wants to leave but he doesn't want to
• 34:30
  leave and yeah, you know. So to have his beginning be so
• 34:36
  he's got his guard up all the time and he's kind of like,
• 34:39
  making fun of people. It doesn't want to let people in
• 34:42
  to close and then his last scene is literally him hugging Luke
• 34:46
  and then hugging Leia. Yeah, I know.
• 34:49
  And to have that character have that found family, you know.
• 34:54
  Yeah. Which it is cherishes.
• 34:58
  Yeah. Truly by the end.
• 34:59
  He cherishes both of them, all of them.
• 35:03
  Yes yes. And for him to kind of realize
• 35:06
  that Luke isn't a child and actually is a character with
• 35:11
  power which we then see in force awakens when he says like it's
• 35:15
  true all of it, you know. Oh my yeah because he was really
• 35:19
  skeptical of it obviously at the beginning he says it's hokey
• 35:22
  religions you know so it's cool to see See how his character
• 35:26
  transforms even in just the original trilogy.
• 35:29
  Hmm. And again, too many good
• 35:31
  entrances to 0, so many favorite.
• 35:34
  So many, I do like the situation normal.
• 35:39
  Oh, fuck. That's yeah.
• 35:41
  It's kind of an entrance, but my insurance is when he slides in
• 35:46
  and shoots and then shrugs that's like my favorite.
• 35:48
  Yes. Like original trilogy entrance.
• 35:51
  You know, I didn't you could kind of come out.
• 35:53
  This is an entrance when he falls into the trash.
• 35:55
  Factor. He says an incredible smell.
• 36:00
  You've discovered. It's a good one too.
• 36:04
  That's a good one. Yeah, I don't know.
• 36:07
  I'm but of course Chewie we're home classic.
• 36:10
  That's without a doubt. Yeah, that was on my list and I
• 36:14
  mean, not to bring it down, but in Rise of Skywalker, when Ben
• 36:20
  solo is standing there and he turns and there's Hans.
• 36:24
  Yes. All right.
• 36:25
  Hello son. You know, that really gets to me
• 36:28
  every time. Yeah, yeah, that one immediate
• 36:31
  tears. Yes.
• 36:33
  I actually perhaps it's unconscious bias but I thought
• 36:38
  when Ben solo turned Anakin was going to be there to tell him
• 36:41
  you can't do this and make the mistakes I made.
• 36:44
  But said it was hot, which is just it's perfect.
• 36:48
  But I was always waiting for, like the moment where the
• 36:51
  grandfather was going to have to have a talk with the grandson
• 36:53
  and say you can't make the mistakes.
• 36:55
  Rest of us made, you know, but instead it was much better in
• 36:58
  the fact that Han was there, when Ben needed a most and he
• 37:02
  did the, I love you. I know.
• 37:04
  Mmm, you know, well, Ben wanted to say, I love you and Han said
• 37:08
  I know which is right. Just fabulous.
• 37:11
  Fabulous, hot is one of the greatest characters.
• 37:15
  Yeah, I agree. His has a very satisfying Arc.
• 37:19
  Well, the the next one I have is Lando, which fabulous is as
• 37:24
  fabulous? Does he?
• 37:25
  Enters a bit of a scoundrel. You don't really know his where,
• 37:30
  his allegiances, he's a little over the top with Leo.
• 37:33
  He's a little over the top with hon, you know, smooth-talking
• 37:38
  gambling. We don't know where this is
• 37:40
  going, but his outfit is great. Oh my God, the cloak, The Cape,
• 37:45
  the Glorious, the blue, the the Disco boots, everything about it
• 37:51
  is fabulous. They are disco boots.
• 37:55
  There are Goats and the pants the flared pants.
• 37:57
  I love it. The whole thing is so retro,
• 38:00
  amazing, but he stays that way all the way through, rise of
• 38:04
  Skywalker, he's got the cape, he's got the colors, it's got
• 38:07
  everything, but the last time we see him, you can tell also that
• 38:10
  he has gone from kind of a superficial in it for himself to
• 38:14
  for the greater good, because he has fought now for the
• 38:16
  Rebellion, aided in the destruction of the second death
• 38:20
  star, loves his Newfound family and you can see it in their hug
• 38:24
  and when he's there with them at the end, And and, and, or and
• 38:27
  everything that happens in between he rectifies his first
• 38:30
  mistake right away and makes up for it tenfold.
• 38:34
  By the end. Yeah, totally.
• 38:35
  I love Lando. I love his first appearance.
• 38:38
  Yeah, that's great. That's the appearance for me.
• 38:41
  Of course we see him again in future installments.
• 38:45
  But you can't top his first appearance.
• 38:48
  It's like Obi-Wan to me the yeah.
• 38:49
  Kate that launched a thousand capes.
• 38:55
  I'm gonna keep saying it for everyone that so happiness up
• 38:58
  good. I also like that it calls Hannah
• 39:01
  loser. Yes, it's so funny.
• 39:04
  Yes. Yeah.
• 39:05
  There's no mistaking that those two have a past, which is great.
• 39:07
  I mean, if your aunt, if you're introducing a new character in
• 39:10
  the second of three films, this is the way to do it.
• 39:13
  You get a feel for him right away.
• 39:15
  Yes he's great he's a great character.
• 39:18
  So you have the emperor I do which what the fuck did you do
• 39:22
  for this? Because this motherfucker comes
• 39:25
  in and Doubt non-stop. Original trilogy, prequels
• 39:30
  sequel. Clone Wars Rebels everything.
• 39:34
  Everything else. Yeah.
• 39:37
  And his appearances have changed to, since they keep gas, leasing
• 39:40
  the film's. He had his first appearance in
• 39:43
  the original trilogy is in Empire Strikes Back.
• 39:46
  He's in a hologram talking to Vader.
• 39:48
  Yeah. And is the original hologram is
• 39:50
  I think scarier than anything because he's like, yeah, weird.
• 39:55
  And Finn. Yeah, and like his eyes are
• 39:58
  weird. Shapes eyes are weird.
• 40:00
  Yeah. Which they've now replaced with
• 40:02
  Ian's performance, which is great, but they also change the
• 40:05
  dialogue. I double-checked it because I
• 40:08
  knew it was different. The emperor knew it was Luke
• 40:12
  Skywalker in the original version back in the 80s.
• 40:15
  And in this version, it kind of doesn't make sense anymore.
• 40:19
  How they've changed it? Because the emperor says he is
• 40:21
  The Offspring of Anakin Skywalker and Vader says, how
• 40:25
  can that be? True.
• 40:26
  But we know that Vader knew that it was Luke long before the
• 40:31
  emperor did true. There's a comic book where Boba
• 40:35
  Fett tells him and then there's the, a certain point of view
• 40:39
  short story that we talked about in one of our episodes, for the
• 40:42
  emperor's like, oh Vader knew about this.
• 40:45
  Yeah, how long did he know about this and well, the question is,
• 40:49
  is, did he think Padme died with the the child unborn?
• 40:54
  That's what I always took. Took it as yeah I guess.
• 40:58
  But then we have all these other pieces of media that kind of
• 41:01
  Point. Yeah, like originally it made
• 41:04
  sense but now that they've added all this other stuff, it kind of
• 41:07
  like makes sent line a little you know, denial is a thing.
• 41:11
  It's true. Yeah, it's true.
• 41:14
  Because How would, how would Vader live with that one?
• 41:17
  He shoved all that out of. Yeah.
• 41:21
  So you know, it's it's possible but you're right though, So they
• 41:26
  basically have a conversation where they just decide that
• 41:28
  they're either going to turn Luke or kill him.
• 41:31
  And that's the first time we said the emperor and then the
• 41:34
  last time we see him, he is literally torturing Luke to
• 41:37
  death until Vader, picks him up and throws him down a reactor
• 41:40
  shaft. Yes, and I love it.
• 41:42
  That is the best exit ever. Yeah, it just - that no party
• 41:47
  out - no - that the that exit is befit for the emperor himself
• 41:54
  Palpatine, had to go. Down that way.
• 41:57
  Yeah, it's good. Picking a favor is difficult for
• 42:02
  him because I hate him and he doesn't do much but I will say
• 42:06
  that I like when his little chair turns like solely because
• 42:15
  I can go with that one. Well Ian said, the chair was
• 42:17
  supposed to be radio controlled and it was broken so he did use
• 42:21
  his feet, little fetal Feats to do it.
• 42:26
  And for him. I like that.
• 42:29
  Yes, yes. And finally, I have Yoda he has
• 42:32
  going to say we only have one left now.
• 42:34
  Well Yoda is kind of Yoda's another hard one because he
• 42:39
  shows up so often. Yeah.
• 42:41
  But if we're talking just the original trilogy, his entrance
• 42:45
  is fantastic because he's an old senile Yoda who probably wants
• 42:52
  to just ignore the fact that a Skywalker has shown up.
• 42:55
  His front door and he talks in riddles and he whacks R2 and he
• 43:02
  get doesn't give a straight answer for shit.
• 43:05
  Yeah. So we see him, you know, and day
• 43:07
  go by in his little, his little place where he's been hiding for
• 43:11
  decades and slimy mudhole. Yeah.
• 43:15
  And so, we're introduced to him as kind of a senile.
• 43:19
  How could this be the warrior that?
• 43:22
  Yeah, Jedi Master Warrior that Luke is looking.
• 43:25
  Are, you know? So they play up a little bit of
• 43:27
  his seasonality. I think, you know, is goofiness.
• 43:30
  And yeah, his speech dialect is the first time we're introduced
• 43:35
  to how he talks, literally, how he phrases his words.
• 43:39
  The wording. Yeah.
• 43:41
  Which has become iconic. And then the last time we see
• 43:44
  him is right back. Well, when he's alive is right
• 43:47
  back in there and he is dead. He's old, he's dying.
• 43:51
  He's trying to tell Luke about there's a second meaning Leia.
• 43:55
  Shh. We think a lot of people
• 43:57
  theorize that it could have been re I still think it's Leia.
• 44:00
  Yeah, I think it was. There's another is Leia.
• 44:03
  Yeah. Yeah.
• 44:04
  It's meant to be last. So Yoda didn't know about Ray,
• 44:09
  but he did know that they existed.
• 44:11
  Yeah, so I mean, semantics aside, it's Leia, and he dies
• 44:16
  and he disappears is little blanket fault.
• 44:20
  Yes, and it's so sad and Luke has a tear and his face half is
• 44:24
  a light and half. In the dark.
• 44:26
  And yeah, he still has to make that choice yet.
• 44:28
  So, yeah, because they weren't sure they were.
• 44:31
  There was Mark Hamill has said, how cool would the ending be if
• 44:35
  he took Vader's helmet and put it on himself at the like
• 44:38
  bitches? Yeah.
• 44:43
  Yeah. So there's that.
• 44:46
  Yeah. But he comes full circle in and
• 44:50
  of course then we get his Force ghost at the end.
• 44:52
  That's when we last see him, see him.
• 44:54
  But man, I got a favorite Yoda moment ever.
• 44:59
  I would have left the same as mine, it's when it's in the
• 45:03
  Revenge of the Sith. Yeah, I walks in and just Downs
• 45:07
  the two guards, closes the door and hasn't he.
• 45:11
  He's just like over it and it's the funniest moment in Star Wars
• 45:15
  maybe where he just it's like almost the equivalent of a bitch
• 45:19
  slap it's so funny. Bitch slap it's Yoda's bitch
• 45:23
  slap that's the perfect. You to categorize that and it's
• 45:27
  Yoda's, best entrance. It's really epic like the taxes
• 45:31
  that they wanted to do that. Like George Lucas who knows to
• 45:34
  do that is so funny. It's it's a boss move, it really
• 45:39
  is. Oh my god, of course, we have
• 45:41
  the same moment. Of course we do.
• 45:43
  Because I base Tides. I can't pick another.
• 45:47
  It's too good. I mean, the only other one that
• 45:50
  for me is just when you first see him because it's so goofy.
• 45:53
  It's so goofy. It's That it's they have the bad
• 45:57
  lip syncing song videos out of him like backing are too, and
• 46:02
  that's one of my favorites seagulls coming up at now.
• 46:06
  Yes, yeah. So many of these characters
• 46:12
  entrances in the original trilogy have become so fucking
• 46:15
  iconic throughout a cinematic history and pop culture in
• 46:19
  general. Yeah, it really puts it in
• 46:21
  perspective, right? It's not just Star Wars, It's
• 46:24
  movies in general. These are pretty iconic.
• 46:26
  You're right, 100%. Yeah.
• 46:28
  Way to go. George?
• 46:30
  Lucas one of your many successes.
• 46:34
  Yes, just a few our question for you this week.
• 46:45
  What is your favorite entrance or exit could be an exit from
• 46:50
  the original trilogy? You can pick any character any
• 46:53
  moment just to let us know. What is your favorite?
• 46:57
  Join us here next week. We are going to review the novel
• 47:02
  Rebel Rising, which is ginner, so's not a backstory, but kind
• 47:07
  of after wrote after her childhood scenes in Rogue one,
• 47:12
  what happens to her and how does it lead into Rogue one?
• 47:15
  And so both Lauren and I have finished reading it and we're
• 47:18
  going to discuss it and maybe a little bit of the Rogue one
• 47:20
  novelization as well. This is Lauren has read it and
• 47:23
  we're just going to relive some of our favorite characters from
• 47:26
  from Rogue one. That one is Jenner.
• 47:28
  So and a few others that are mentioned in the book, so it's
• 47:32
  spoiler heavy. So if you haven't read it, maybe
• 47:34
  next week's episode is not for you.
• 47:36
  But if you're interested, we will be going over that novel.
• 47:39
  It was amazing. It was very good.
• 47:40
  Yeah, I'm excited to talk about it.
• 47:43
  Last week we discussed Hondo ohnaka and we ask people what
• 47:46
  their favorite moment was with Honda and our friend, Kevin sent
• 47:51
  me this quote, Oh the stories I could tell so many of them,
• 47:55
  true. Such a Hondo close.
• 47:59
  It's such a Honda good and it's from Rebels.
• 48:02
  He said that he watched Rebels before he watched Clone Wars.
• 48:04
  So that was his first introduction to Hondo and
• 48:07
  honestly you can't go wrong with Hondo no matter how you get
• 48:11
  introduced to him. So you want to talk about an
• 48:13
  entrance and an exit you've got him with on do that.
• 48:16
  Man never fails on an entrance. So true.
• 48:20
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