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  Dang I actually had a really good intro and I
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  forgot what I was gonna say damn it Well, this
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  is Banter with the boys, Gridiron Updates. We're
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  back. It's still Rob. It's still Jake. It's still
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  preseason. It's still preseason. Kev's still
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  freaking sitting here. Yerp. By the way, every
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  time you do that, I just hear you going, yerp,
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  in my noggin here. Yeah, so we've been, yeah,
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  what are we talking about? The Cardinals. They're
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  crap. The NFC West. Are the Cardinals going to
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  be the worst team in the NFL this year? I think
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  the lowest number of wins we've given anybody
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  was five, and I think it was me, and I forget
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  who it was. It's either going to be the Cardinals
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  or, yeah, I think it was the Cardinals. Cardinals,
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  worst team in the NFL this year. I mean, they
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  have to play the AFC West, too. That's what I
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  mean. Their schedule is very daunting in their
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  own division. Yeah, they're going to struggle
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  this year. If they get above five, I'll call
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  it a W this year. Another running back we're
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  hoping does not get ran into the ground completely.
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  I do like a little Jeremiah Love, though. You
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  love some love? I think he's got the skill set
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  to be a decent NFL running back. Health is one
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  of those things with him that might linger in.
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  Was he hurt a little bit in Notre Dame periodically?
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  I don't remember who he was, but I felt like
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  he was. Who's their quarterback? I think they're
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  just positioning. Jacoby Brissett. I know, but
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  next year. You're not on Jacoby Brissett train?
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  I mean, I think he's all right as a suitable
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  wait until next year when we draft a quarterback.
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  Yeah, he's a gap year QB. Tank for Arch. We're
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  all not big on. I don't think anybody wants to
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  tank for Arch. Does Carson Beck start for the
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  Cardinals by the end of the season? You can see
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  it, you know, but I like Harrison Jr., Michael
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  Wilson on the outside. I think he's their number
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  one, actually. He kind of blew up last year.
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  He plays better. Well, he catches the ball, too.
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  Yeah, and then you've got probably, arguably,
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  the best tight end in true. And then Mike LaFerre,
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  they've got a new coach. This year is going to
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  be tough. I'd do with Trey McBride, one of the
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  best tight ends, if not the best tight ends.
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  So they got a lot of weapons, but do they have
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  enough to compete with the rest of their division
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  and the AFC West to be significant in the standings
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  this year? No. I'm out. Yeah, and then the other
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  NFC teams they play are like the likes of Detroit,
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  Dallas. Other than the West teams, it's just
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  a tough, tough schedule for them. I don't think
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  it's going to go well at all. I think 3 -14 last
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  year, it could be worse. It could be 2 -15. I
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  mean, it's not going to be good for them this
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  year. And I kind of like the Cardinals, like
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  we were talking. But they're in rough shape.
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  They do have some pieces. You know, big Trey
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  McBride guy. Like you said, probably the best
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  tight end in the league. And unfortunately, he's
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  stuck here in Arizona for a little bit longer.
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  They could win a couple of those late games,
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  Jets, Saints, Vegas, but rough season, rough
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  go of it for Arizona. Good luck. But post -Kyler
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  Murray, obviously that cloud has kind of been
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  hanging over them for a few years. Still paying
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  them, though. But at least he's out of the building.
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  If he ended up becoming this negative energy
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  to the organization, which it definitely felt
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  like that last year, maybe two, now he's gone.
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  So now it's kind of like... Maybe there's some
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  fresh air there. I don't know. Fresh enough to
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  go to... You're trying to make it not as doom
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  and gloom as it was going to be. Sorry. I really
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  questioned and still do the Jeremiah Love pick
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  in general. Their backfield was already crowded.
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  and now you're adding an additional running back.
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  Now, I understand that he's a very dynamic player,
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  but that team had a lot of needs, and running
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  back wasn't really a need. Fair. So I felt like
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  they were like, oh, what's best player available
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  right now? We're just going to take that regardless
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  of what it was versus, man, we got a lot of work
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  to do. Where would you have started? Would you
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  have taken a chance on one of these other quarterbacks?
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  I don't know. Rather than Jeremiah Love? No,
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  I maybe would have seen. I'm a proponent. With
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  as many needs as they had, maybe you're probably
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  looking at seeing about trading out. Acquire
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  a couple more draft picks and start looking at,
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  well, we need to retool our offensive line. We
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  need to retool our defensive line. There's no
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  way they didn't get calls. You're curious kind
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  of like what those offers maybe were, knowing
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  that Jeremiah Love was on the board and multiple
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  teams did want him. The pick felt off to me,
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  and it still does. Again, not to say that he's
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  not a bad player. He's a really great player.
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  I think he's just going to be on the wrong team
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  for him, unfortunately. And for running backs
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  with short careers that they usually do, he's
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  unfortunately probably going to lose half of
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  his career to being potentially on a poor to
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  mediocre team unless they can kind of turn some
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  other stuff around over the next two. Yeah, the
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  schedule, I love the skill players. Everything
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  else just is off about it, and I don't see any
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  progress. Three wins seems like their sweet spot.
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  All right, to add to your word, they kind of
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  draft. I'm just kind of looking at the draft
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  afterwards. I mean, they're not going to take
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  takes, so they're not going to receive anything
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  really offense, maybe offensive line. So then
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  you would add Reese, Delane, the cornerback the
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  Chiefs end up taking, Sonny Stiles. and then
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  receiver and then offensive line. So maybe they
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  just loved Love more than those guys. Or they
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  should have traded down. But that's just kind
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  of who was after would have been available for
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  Love. It'll be interesting how that turns out.
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  I agree that the running back room is full. They
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  drafted a running back last year in the second
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  round. But he got hurt in preseason. I'm trying
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  to think of his name. Tip of my head, I should
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  know. Bam? No, because their room right now is
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  Jeremiah Love, Tyler Algier, which they signed
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  from the Falcons, James Conner, and then Bam
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  Knight. And I think James Conner, he's currently
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  on IR with a return designation. Okay, gotcha.
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  So maybe it's not too crowded right now, but
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  it's going to get crowded. Where are we going
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  next? 49ers. 14 Niners. Lost Robert Sala. We'll
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  just say that to start off. Robert. Key loss
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  is Robert Sala. Robert. And Ricky Pearsall. I'm
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  just going to go right off the bat and say the
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  Niners are going to drop two wins this year.
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  They're going to end up being 10 -7. That is
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  off the cliff. I think the Right, it kind of
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  is a little bit. Put a little flag next to this,
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  Kevin, so I can remind her to put a reel on this.
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  Ten and seven. Let's go. Yeah, I think their
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  biggest concern is trying to just stay healthy
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  throughout a whole season at this point. You
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  mean that electrical substation? Well, we could
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  talk about that, too. But, no, just in general.
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  You know, their big playmakers are aging as well.
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  How are they going to do with the 17 -game season
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  at this point? You know, Brock Purdy himself
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  has had some injury stuff. Let's see him play
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  this season out. I'm just thinking they're dropping
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  10 -5. Unfortunately, this year. Just off the
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  cliff. A little bit. Right into the golden gates.
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  They're not winning the division with that either.
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  No. I think it's just going to be a really tough
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  division. I mean, the games against Seattle and
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  the Rams specifically, obviously, just who knows?
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  Yeah. Who knows? Fire away, Jake. Give me your
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  thoughts. Yes. Super, super tough division. Unfortunate
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  for the 49ers. I really like. Mike Evans and
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  Debo both very different wide receivers to bring
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  in really to offset kind of losing Jawan Jennings,
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  Ricky Pearsall poor Ricky yeah older but I think
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  they're still going to be able to get it done
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  I mean jokingly but also seriously it's really
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  about the injuries I don't know if that electrical
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  substation thing is just tinfoil hat kind of
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  stuff or not, but I think there's enough people
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  believing it. Depends on the documents you read.
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  I think that there's enough people out there
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  believing it that there's some kind of psyche
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  thing going on in players' and fans' heads about
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  it. Back to candlestick they go. Yeah, someone's
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  got to move, and I don't think it's the substation.
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  Yeah, buddy. I think they're able to... They
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  may be able to stay put at 12 wins. There's not
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  a lot of change positively. 12 is their ceiling.
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  10 to 12 is probably where they land. They have
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  a couple of interesting games to open. They open
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  against the Rams. That's tough. But then it's
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  Miami, Arizona. We presume those are two wins
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  for San Francisco. And then probably toughies
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  against Denver, Seattle, Washington, Atlanta.
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  So, interesting way to open the season. What
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  do you got, Robert? I mean, the offense revolves
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  around McCaffrey. His ability, he's still one
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  of the elite talents on the football field. But
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  the interesting combination with Evans coming
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  in now and back, Debo's back. Are they going
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  to get enough out of Evans to fill in? Who's
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  going to be that deep threat? I know they did
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  sign Kristen Kurt, probably stretch the field
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  a little bit, but he's the underneath guy. Brock,
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  I still can get the job done. They're in a really
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  tough division, and also they're playing AFC
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  West. I think they're going to fall a little
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  bit, but they have so much talent on the offensive
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  side. If McCaffrey's on the field defensively,
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  I think they've also gotten a little bit. I think
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  the defense is going to be there. their struggle
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  point this year. I think the offense will be
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  able to keep up in some games, but their defense
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  won't be the same. I think they got a little
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  older. They lost a couple people. They added
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  a few, but I mean, I don't know if it's going
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  to be enough. So I'm going probably 500 for them.
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  I could see them maybe nine wins, but tough division,
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  tough schedule. After all the crap he was giving
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  me for giving them 10 wins. I gave you crap for
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  ten. Yeah, for sure. I was like, dang, you must
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  be thinking 13, 14 wins. You said seven. Did
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  I? No, I said ten. Kev, roll it back. No, I said
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  two less. You did say two less. And then you
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  explained ten. I initially heard two wins. And
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  I was just like, two? And then you corrected
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  yourself and said two less. I stopped listening.
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  I was like, oh, I got to get a rebuttal for this.
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  Blacked out. All right. Well, let's talk about
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  Seattle. I will not start this one. Okay. Because
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  I have ideas about this one. They lost a lot
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  this year. I mean, it's not surprising for a
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  Super Bowl winning team. like losing Kenneth
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  Walker, Clint Kubiak, the offensive coordinator.
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  So that offensive brain drain, I think, is really
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  going to impact them a lot. But they were smart
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  enough to re -sign Rashid Shaheed. I think he's
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  a very dynamic playmaker on special teams and
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  even as a wide receiver. So some good things
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  there. Charbonnet is still out, injury prone.
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  Who's going to be running the ball? Daniel Wilson.
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  Or Bryce. Doesn't he have a rookie? I think we're
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  going to see a decent amount of regression from
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  the Seahawks. I would say 10 wins. So this is
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  a pretty significant fallback. But again, it's
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  the health of the running back. new play caller
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  uh and you're just in a tough division so i mean
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  it's just it's gonna happen so yeah it's i i
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  mean i'm kind of with you on that so they and
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  they did lose a bunch of people um then also
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  the who's the rookie safety how long is he out
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  for um i'm in worry yes um That running back
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  loss, I think it will affect him a little bit.
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  Yes, Walker, but Walker was hurt also a ton last
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  year. He wasn't, which was kind of the odd year,
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  so they kind of put them on. I'm going to worry
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  he might start the season, I think. He might?
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  All right. Yeah, I think the Seattle defense
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  is still going to be tough. I still think they're
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  top five. JSN is an elite, elite route runner.
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  Sam can slang the ball. Whether they can establish
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  the running game like last year and be so effective
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  and just grinding teams out, then getting the
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  defense and keeping them fresh and then they
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  just attack. Yeah, I'm 10, 11 wins. That's where
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  I'm feeling them this year, too. I still think.
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  they'll be not the division winners, though.
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  Yeah, I think they're second. I agree. I think
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  they will also be second. I think 14 wins is
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  very hard to repeat. Again, especially in this
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  division. Along the lines of both of you, I also
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  agree. 11 wins. I think that defense is going
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  to carry them again to the point where Sam can
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  just sit back there and... be comfortable and
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  not really feel the pressure that the offense
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  really has to make it happen because the defense
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  was just so outstanding last year. And I anticipate
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  them being another top ten defense this year
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  as well. I mean, you hit it on the head with
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  JSN. I mean, is he top five receiver in the league
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  at this point? Yeah. You know, just an outstanding
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  route runner. Yeah, let's touch on that last
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  one here. All right. I mean, division winner
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  for all of us, it sounds like. I mean, I thought
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  they were the better team last year. I thought
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  they were better than Seattle last year. And
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  with the breaking news earlier today, I think
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  even more so plays into that. It'll be interesting
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  to see how much Aaron Donald, you know, signing.
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  I mean, he hasn't played in two years. Two years,
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  you know. He still looks like he's in really
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  good shape. That's what I mean. He's probably
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  fresh. He's not banged up and stuff, you know.
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  Yeah, you know, positive. Continued to work out.
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  Yeah. But NFL season, you know, week five, week
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  eight, you know. I mean, Super Bowl's not won
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  in week one. Yeah. But. With Matt Stafford just
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  slanging it. The Puka issue. That hasn't been
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  resolved yet. We don't know. But, you know, you
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  still got Adams. They just got so much talent
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  and a lot of veteran talent, too. Where that
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  locker room, I think, is pretty solid. That would
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  probably be the only thing I'd do. Like, if Puka's
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  out long -term, I'd probably try to acquire one
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  more. playmaking receiver to round that out.
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  If Stafford can stay healthy, I don't think there's
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  any reason that LA doesn't go to the NFC Championship
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  game again. Vegas has got them that direction.
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  It added Miles Garrett, too. It doesn't get any
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  better. They had a good young defense, too. Verse
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  was one of those stud core guys. Trent McGuffey.
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  To an already good defense, too? Are you kidding
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  me? Yeah, it's pretty wild. Byron Young and Brandon
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  Fisker, the other two really young core defenders,
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  too. But I think their Achilles heel is if they've
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  got to stay healthy in the running back room.
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  They need Williams to do him because that's really
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  where Stafford, I mean, he's play -action stud,
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  and he really works that. So, I mean, that's
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  where I could see the only issues, and then Stafford
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  getting hurt. It was really interesting last
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  year at preseason. He had that neck injury, and
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  we're all wondering if he was even going to play.
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  Is he going to play? Then he came out in pretty
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  much an MVP season. I expect the same out of
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  him. I mean, Kyron had a pretty solid year. And
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  then their backup, Blake Corman, ended up rushing
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  for like 746. I mean, that's not a bad game.
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  No, but they need that out of them. They can
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  do that again. Yeah, I mean, I feel like. The
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  Super Bowl is the ceiling for the Rams, you know?
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  It is Super Bowl or bust. Anything other than
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  the NFC Championship game is a failure for them.
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  Yeah. I mean, that continues just to be the way
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  that they operate their business, where they're
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  F them picks and get Myles Garrett. And then
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  still, because they had like four. no they had
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  five draft picks this year i mean one was ty
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  simpson in the first round which was kind of
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  a head scratcher but i think they're playing
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  the long game on that one because they know it's
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  like we got stafford we can just have ty simpson
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  learn this gig and carry on with life because
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  that's always been what they do is they they
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  draft well and then develop it so It'll be interesting,
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  though. There was that preseason video out there
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  with McVay and that thing when they were talking
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  about whether McVay was on board with Ty Simpson.
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  That was kind of weird. But then afterwards,
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  he said the politically correct answer to whatever
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  why. But he said that was the whole thing with
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  KFC, too, and JJ McCarthy. Well, is that why
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  he's out? The place he's gone is because maybe
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  JJ was his pick. I don't know. But we don't know
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  that information of whose guy was who. No, no,
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  we know. We got insider info. Rams are the favorite
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  to win this. I buy that. So who's your Super
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  Bowl? We didn't do this for the rest of them,
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  but real quick. I'll just do championship games.
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  How about that? We'll do Rams and Lions. Rams
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  and Lions, okay. I think we're going to have
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  a rematch. I think it's going to be Rams -Hawks.
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  Rams -Hawks. Rams -Dallas Cowboys. All right,
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  AFC. You guys go first. Let me see what I can
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  think. Kev, give me my papers. I'm going to go
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  Chiefs. Coming back from the dead, huh? Yes.
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  Ravens. Chiefs, Ravens? I like that, only because
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  you said Ravens. See, I snuck that one in to
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  win some points back. Man, it's going to be...
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  The AFC is going to be a crap shoot in its own
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  right, because there's a lot of teams on similarly
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  equal footing for different reasons. Are the
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  Ravens there? No, I don't think the Ravens are
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  there this year. I think Ravens are a potential
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  wildcard team. I think it's going to be Broncos
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  -Bills. Okay. And I'm going Broncos -Houston.
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  There we go. So no Patriots for any of us. There
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  it is. Sorry, Patriots fans. You had your chance
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  already. It's done. It's over. But Rams fans,
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  I guess we like you. We like you. Yeah. That's
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  it. That's it. Preseason's over? I like it. That's
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  it. Preseason's over. First game is, what did
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  you say, next Wednesday? Next Wednesday. Holy
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  crap. And then next week, all our ideas and thoughts
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  totally change. So that's right. That's right.
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  So listen to these, subscribe, and then forget
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  about these episodes. Yes. As the season starts.
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  So you'll see us next time. Oh, what would it
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  be? Next week, huh? On our preview show of our
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  games. Yes, for week one. And any other news
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  that has came out since then, who knows what's
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  going to happen between now and then. But, Jake,
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  thanks for being here. Thanks for having me.
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  Of course, naturally. Roberto. Thanks, Coach.
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  Of course. Cav. Yerp. You do. Yeah, well, don't
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  that would be great. So, yeah. Bye. Skol! Don't
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