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Week Six · Boundary Corner Podcast

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  Music. And welcome back to the Boundary
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  Corner podcast along with my partners, Brian Siegel and
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  Jonathan Tally and Shelton Moss. I am Curtis Wilson.
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  We are a part of the College Huddle network.
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  And this episode is brought to you by Doctor Jeremy Counts down
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  at the Counts Family Pharmacy, your friendly neighborhood
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  pharmacy, Three O 1 S Main St. Blacksburg, VA.
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  And Brian will let you say a little something here.
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  Yeah, I'm going to kick it off tonight.
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  Just sending thoughts out there to our our friends in western
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  North Carolina that are dealing with the disaster of Hurricane
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  Alene. Some of you may know, some of
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  you may not. That area of the state has a
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  special meaning for me. It's a place where me and my
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  family go just about every summer.
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  Lake Lower Chimney Rock area there in Rutherford County,
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  about 30 minutes, 30 miles kind of east of of Asheville there.
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  Just wanted to to send my thoughts out there.
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  And for the folks out there listing, we've got some links
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  down below on the crawl there. 1 is for the United Way, United
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  Way of Rutherford County and the other is for feeding the
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  Carolinas. Please, if you have any ability
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  to do so, think of of donating and and helping those folks out
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  right now. You know there there's some of
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  these towns very much A1 road in one Rd. out.
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  It's hard to get to them, the elevation and everything.
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  So please try to get as many resources to them as you can and
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  definitely any anything you can can do at this point would be a
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  big help. Yep, very well said, Brian.
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  The links are also pinned to our Twitter account as well for the
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  United Way of Rutherford County. Obviously we we understand
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  between western Carolina, eastern Tennessee and the
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  western part of the state of Virginia, along with South
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  Carolina, Georgia and Florida, all pretty hard because of this
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  storm. It's closest to us.
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  If y'all don't know him, a good friend of ours, JJ Singleton.
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  Down in the Asheville area. Yeah, down there in Canton.
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  Down in Canton, J JS OK, we've heard from him over the last few
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  days. I know some folks that me and
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  Brian grew up with live out there.
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  Now I work with the guy who who who who is a hybrid guy.
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  He lives out there. So it's it's affected a lot of
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  people, obviously. And obviously I think we all
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  know it's the part of the area that's a lot of Hokie fans too.
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  So it's it's not only just, you know, it's Hokie fans, but just
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  in general, the stuff that's going on, you know, you know,
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  however you or whatever you may do, if you can donate, great.
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  If you can at least keep the good vibes, the prayers,
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  however, you may do so for them. Yeah.
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  And it's, it's just incredible seeing, you know, something that
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  you, you know, you spend a lot of time down there.
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  You, you, you've been there so many times and seeing what that
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  place looks like now and the destruction that that happened.
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  And, you know, the folks that are that are still reeling down
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  there, it's, it's just, it's, it's been sad, man.
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  And it's, you know, looking, looking at the destruction.
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  It's been just kind of kind of surreal.
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  I mean, I tell anybody that asked me, yeah, I've, I've had a
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  beer. I've, I've went up and ordered a
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  beer at a lot of places in this, in this world, right.
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  Best place I've ever ordered a beer and sat down and drank it.
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  Chimney Rock Brewing, it's it's right there on the river.
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  You got a perfect view of the of the river up there to the, the,
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  the State Park. It's gorgeous and it and that
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  place does not exist anymore and it's just it's it's really,
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  really sad and again, praying for all the folks down there and
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  and and hoping that you know, they get some relief here for
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  sure I'll. Do a good thing.
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  I'm on you. I've got a daughter that is not
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  being the best right now, so if my camera goes off everyone out
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  there in Twitter land and watching us streaming, it's
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  because she's done something and I've had a lead.
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  So let's hope that doesn't happen, but.
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  Hey guys, look who was first in line here.
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  Yeah, he was waiting. He was waiting.
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  New King was waiting. New King needed a lot of help to
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  beat A2 and two team last week. I mean, as new, always new.
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  King has been faithful on the show.
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  We appreciate you. But I will say, y'all got a
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  little help, y'all got the win, we'll give it to you.
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  We can't change it. But you got a little help.
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  You got a little help. So, well, let's just tell the
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  truth. This tell the truth Tuesday.
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  Y'all know the way we normally do it.
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  I mixed it up this week like we did last week.
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  But yes or no, yes or no? First, did the ACC make a
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  business decision when they overturned Kwan's touchdown
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  Friday night? Yes or no, Brian?
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  Of course they did. Oh, go ahead.
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  Sheldon, are you good? No, no, no.
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  Yes or no? Just yes or no to start with.
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  Just yes or no? I'd say no.
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  Oh. OK, we got a dissenter here, so
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  we are going to start with Tally because I feel like Tally's
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  ready to unload and then I'm gonna go to Sheldon and let
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  Brian and he clean it up. Go ahead, Tally.
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  My thing is you can't as much football as you watch.
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  If it's a catch, if you call it a catch, what is the, how do you
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  overturn it? You know what I'm saying?
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  There is no indisputable evidence that you overturn that
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  call. I mean, we've seen it.
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  I've seen it time and time. I ain't going to speak for
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  nobody else that if something is called on the field, if that's
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  the call on the field, you have to have the indisputable
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  evidence. And I, I don't feel like they
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  had indisputable evidence. I feel like Miami is the hot
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  team, Miami's five and O Cam Ward, Cam Ward, no matter what
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  he done wrong, he's still, he's a Heisman finalist.
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  You know, that's all we heard the whole game and we heard
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  about their team, which is which is OK.
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  I don't. I mean, a lot of the stuff that
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  they've done, they they've earned that.
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  So I'm not taking anything away from Miami.
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  Very talented team. Cam Ward's a very talented
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  player. So again, I feel like now, you
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  know, look at look at game day that they're in, they're in Cal
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  to watch Miami and Cal. So yeah, that made a business
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  decision. It's just my opinion.
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  Sheldon, you say no, which I think you were going to be in
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  the minority here tonight, not only with US 4, but probably
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  everybody out on the comment section.
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  Why do you say no? Stephanie King.
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  Well. It was with the.
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  With the context that we saw Al Riveron in the, the replay
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  control room when they were when they were looking over that
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  replay. Revron is a Miami native.
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  I am assume he's partial to Miami.
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  I'm not saying it's conspiracy, but I think, I think he probably
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  leaned one particular way and I'm sure he probably convinced
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  some people in that room to, to lean that way as well.
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  So I don't think it was like a, hey, we need Miami for the
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  playoffs type of thing. But I, I do think it's probably,
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  you know, if you, if you, if you have a bias, your, your eyes are
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  gonna make you look towards that bias.
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  So I think they just, they probably just looked at it that
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  way of like, hey, you know, we're, we're Miami here and we
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  got a, we got a, you know, we're going to see it through the lens
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  of the, the, the, the canes. So that's kind of the way I look
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  at it. I mean, this is the same crew
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  that was on the Duke 15 lateral 15 lateral touchdown, 4 penalty
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  that weren't thrown situation. You know, I mean, when I look at
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  it and I'll explain my mindset here of what I see and folks can
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  be a disagree with that if they want to.
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  But what I saw Felton go up, Felton come down, Felton fall.
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  At that point, his momentum stopped.
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  Then you see a Miami player punch the ball.
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  It doesn't matter what happened after that after he was down.
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  It shouldn't. None of that should have
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  mattered. You can't make an additional
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  move against the player once once they're already on the
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  ground that that. That's how I saw it.
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  That's how I felt about it. I think it was Bang Bang.
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  So I can see where others would have a different opinion of
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  that. But given that information, you
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  stick with the call in the field.
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  Yeah, and not and not and not only that.
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  I mean, we keep talking about the catch.
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  I'm sure we may talk about it a little later, but it was a lot
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  of stuff that went on just in the last drive that I was like,
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  hold on for a minute. Like horse collar, like people
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  and and and, you know, the coaches have some stuff they
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  have to work on. I'm not taking again, I'm not
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  employed by the school. We talked about that too.
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  Yeah, Brett probably knows the stuff that he needs to work on,
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  but there's a horse collar. No, no call.
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  Another one that threw me for a loop was when Quan is going
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  forward and again, I'm not on the field, Maybe the whistle
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  blows, but it looks like he never goes down and goes out of
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  bounds, gets through out of bounds and they run the clock.
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  You know, they continue running the clock and everybody says,
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  well, they should have done this.
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  I'm like how do you, how do you continue running the clock if he
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  goes out of bounds? But it could have been a could
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  have been a whistle that of course I'm not there and didn't
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  see. But it was a lot of stuff that
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  went on. I thought it was a pass
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  interference when he threw the ball in the end zone to Aidan
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  Green. But it was a pass.
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  It is what he had his arm and he shoved him out of bounds before
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  he had a chance to go after the ball.
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  There were 4 plays on that last drive, not counting that.
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  So Quan was first. If Quan had been going backward,
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  yes, you have to run the clock, right?
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  You have to run the clock. Absolutely.
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  He stopped his forward. He went out sideways to my
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  knowledge, and as long as I watch football that is out of
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  bounds, that is this, not this. He tries to make a move and gets
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  pulled back. We're going to talk about that
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  later. Yeah.
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  That should have been out of bounds.
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  So that's probably 15 seconds right there.
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  The other was the horse collar. It was, it was clear you saw him
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  do this or he didn't make the tackle.
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  It doesn't matter if they make the tackle.
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  You pull the horse collar. Whether the tackle is made or
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  not. That is a 15 yard penalty That
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  would have stopped the clock. That would have got us I think
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  to the 40 of them because it was on the side of midfield.
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  The other part about that prize out there screaming, that's a
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  horse collar. You can, if you look he's doing
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  this, he's running back to the sideline and he has to go to the
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  other ref and say I call the time out eight or nine seconds
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  additional off the clock right there.
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  So we've already, we've already got 2324 seconds additional that
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  they took away from us. Aiden Green 100% Alice pass
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  interference. And I don't care if it's a 1
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  yard line spot or if it's fifteen additional yards.
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  You start doing the math. The last place should have
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  probably been at about the 8 yard line, not to 40 or to 31,
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  whatever it was. I'll have to go back and look.
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  It shouldn't have been a deep pass.
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  It would have been something even harder to defend for them.
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  And that the ACC did make a business decision.
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  They did. There's there's no question
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  because if it was clearing in indisputable evidence, it
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  wouldn't have taken 5 minutes. It would not have taken 5
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  minutes to say that. They kept saying like, oh, this
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  is going to go and it's like you want to fix the the replay
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  rules, 45 seconds find something wrong with it.
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  What if we can't find nothing wrong with?
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  It. It stands.
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  It stands because if it's that indisputable, it's not.
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  He's this man trying to say we wrong.
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  I got two guys who played collegiate football here, King.
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  All right, You ain't even going to.
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  Yeah, it don't matter about who's wrong or right.
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  Like you could look at football and understand.
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  I don't care if he acted like he won $1,000,000.
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  Like that's not that doesn't constitute a call.
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  When he went up to get the ball, either he has it or he doesn't.
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  You know, if he if he comes down with it, he does.
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  If he doesn't, the the, you know, the refs make the call.
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  They made a call that said it was a touchdown.
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  So the only people in the country that I've heard this is
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  what I've heard from Miami fans. New King, maybe you can help me.
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  You sound like them anyway. My everybody hates Miami.
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  The refs hate Miami. And the only reason that Miami's
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  winning is just because they're so good.
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  And it wasn't like they they helped us keep the game close.
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  That's a lie like that is that's not what happened in that game.
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  Like the refs, The, the, the, every year Miami gets, they get
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  the benefit of the doubt that they're back.
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  I don't think that no media or no refs hate Miami.
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  So I'm tired of Miami fans trying to say that.
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  Because if Miami have any kind of production coming back or any
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  kind of production where they look like they're good, they're
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  getting ranked. They're getting ranked early in
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  the season. So that's nothing wrong with
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  that. You have a program that when
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  it's good, it's good for football.
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  So Miami fans have in their heads that everybody's against
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  them. Everybody hates to you, man.
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  That's that's a crock of shit. So that's just my opinion.
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  You know, when we talk about the way the the officiating was
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  going, it wasn't just on that last drive, all that.
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  That was a big part of it. Let's talk about the the PJ
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  touchdown, the holding call. That was just a good pancake.
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  Yeah, New King said. They helped y'all out a lot.
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  Yeah, he said. They helped y'all out a lot.
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  They took away a touchdown on the BSP.
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  Yeah, we've seen it too. That was a hold.
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  They had them on the outside of the shoulder pass.
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  Do you think that was a hold? That was not.
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  But The thing is, it's like it happened.
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  It's not like they gave us plays and then they just helped us get
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  to where we were. The same thing.
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  We had the same if it was a hold or it wasn't a hold and they
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  called a touch, took a touchdown off the board.
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  They did the same thing to us. So it came down to, again, with
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  the question that you asked, they made a business decision,
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  Sheldon said the the Miami dude is in there with his orange
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  shirt on making the call when there's only two or three people
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  in there that keep going to this damn a war room or whatever they
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  call it. And, and why, how how do you
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  even have a tie to that game to be able to make those calls?
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  I don't understand. So well, he is the official head
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  of officiating for the ACC. That's how you need to get the
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  fuck on. Yeah, he need to get on in a
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  game like that. I mean, you know, this is a
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  recusal situation, right? Like if, if you're a judge with,
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  with some sort of ties to A to, to a situation, you got to
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  recuse yourself. I feel like that should be
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  something that we will not talk about there as well.
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  But I mean, you know, I know we're going to talk about it,
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  but it didn't need to necessarily come down to a Hail
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  Mary. And some of that was
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  self-inflicted and some of that was poor officiating.
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  And I think both both of those things kind of led to where we
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  ended up at the end of that game.
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  Absolutely. All right, So we got to do some
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  on just that part of it. We got to close the book, OK,
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  because every statements been made, 98% of the country agrees
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  with us. It should have been held.
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  Miami should have a loss. We should have a win.
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  Can't do anything about it, can't go back, but it is what it
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  is. But what I want to ask y'all
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  next and then yes or no, and then I'll let y'all explain
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  Friday night. Was that the team you expected
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  from the jump this year, Shelton, Yes or no?
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  Yeah, I I thought they put their, their, their hearts out
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  Tally. Yeah, definitely, Brian.
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  Yeah, that was the team I expected from Jump Street.
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  It looked like the team I expect, like win or lose in that
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  game from from the start to finish.
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  It looked like the team I expected to for us to have most
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  of the year. You're on mute again, Curtis.
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  That's going to be a recurring theme tonight is I'm going to
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  have to do that. All right, So Brian, you kind of
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  went into it over there. What did you feel different on
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  Friday night? I'm going to go back around
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  Sheldon, get you, get your data points ready.
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  I know you've got stuff up, but what did you just see different?
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  What was the feel? Why did this team look like the
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  team we expected them to be? Complimentary football, I mean,
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  I think, I think it's that simple.
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  Complimentary football. When the defense made a play, we
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  went out there and made a play on offense.
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  Most of the time when the offense made a play, the defense
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  would turn it around and, and, and do something pretty well and
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  get the ball back to the offense.
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  I thought it was a very consistent performance really on
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  both sides of the ball, with only a couple caveats to that, I
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  think. Yeah, for the most part, special
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  teams was OK outside of two number seventeens on the field
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  and a very questionable coaching call.
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  Hey, if you speeding, if you speeding and the police don't
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  catch you, what you speeding? It ain't illegal.
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  That's what I'm saying. Happened all the time.
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  They didn't catch it. Go ahead.
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  I'm sorry but. Yeah, I, I think performance
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  wise, I think the, the, the special teams was improved this
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  week. I think there were still a
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  couple decisions from the staff that could fall under question
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  on that side of the things, right?
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  What about you, Tally? What did they do different?
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  I know you had a game, you came in late, but I know you watch
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  them. Yeah, man, I had a yeah.
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  They had my son dressed out with varsity this past weekend or
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  this week. So Friday we were out in the
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  rain in the game. They at least won.
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  He got in his first varsity snaps, he was scared.
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  He didn't have to do nothing behind the ball off, but you got
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  like the third team and then they fumble a snap and other
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  team picked it up and start running back and he was trying
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  to make a tackle but also not get ran over.
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  So yeah, welcome to big boy football for him.
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  But I watched it man, probably about I mean, I watched some
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  highlights kind of that night and watched some videos people
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  were posting. But then I watched the entire
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  game at like 2O clock in the morning, Saturday, Saturday,
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  Sunday morning, when they finally got a whole game
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  uploaded, I went back and I went back and watched the entire
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  thing, which was I shouldn't have.
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  I sacrificed some much needed sleep.
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  But Karen looked more like Karen, like he accepted what the
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  stage was and to see him step up in the pocket and make that
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  throw, you know what he throws off one leg and, and, and puts
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  the ball, you know, on the rope. Like it was good to see him do
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  that. But also, man, it was just not
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  to get too technical. Like when when they when we got
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  punched, they punched back because a lot of games early,
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  even games we won are seeing somebody punching.
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  It was just kind of like we kind of walked to the sideline or we
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  kind of, you know, did some different things.
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  And I'm like, come on, man. Like I like to see a team.
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  Like getting getting that bad, somebody's talking, talking
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  back. It's OK, you know what I'm
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  saying? Like you either going to win or
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  you going to lose. I don't like that.
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  We're going to be classy and no, forget that.
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  Like if people out there talking, you got to talk back.
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  So I seen us doing that, you know, and again, Miami has a
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  good team and Miami wasn't doing anything like overly bad, you
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  know, but when you're playing football, that's a game where
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  you get to hit each other every play.
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  So they was hitting and we hit back.
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  So I was good. I was glad to see that because
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  in some of the other games I didn't see that.
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  You know, I've seen people leaning on us for quarters
• 20:37
  before we decided to punch back this this game.
• 20:40
  I feel like from the start it was like, Nah, we, we are trying
• 20:45
  to win, you know, we hit a we hit a play football.
• 20:48
  So that was good to see. Sheldon, what about you, man?
• 20:52
  What popped out? And I know you watched the game
• 20:54
  Friday night. I'm sure you reluctantly looked
• 20:57
  at some analytics. What?
• 20:58
  What was what was different to you Friday night?
• 21:03
  Well, I think there was a little bit more variety in the run
• 21:05
  game. You know, they averaged about 7
• 21:07
  yards per rush as a team, which was great, especially against
• 21:10
  that D line. You know, we saw more of those
• 21:13
  those toss plays to to Bayshaw Tooten where, you know, Jones
• 21:16
  kind of pitch outside or or fake the pitch and then go inside
• 21:18
  between the guards. You know, I feel like that was
• 21:21
  kind of our bread and butter last year for some reason.
• 21:23
  We didn't really see it a ton the first four games.
• 21:25
  I don't know if Bowen was trying to save a little bit more for a
• 21:27
  conference play, but it was good to see that play kind of get
• 21:29
  back on the mix. You know, rolling drones out a
• 21:31
  little bit more, getting them to run as a quarterback, which
• 21:34
  obviously is the best strength. Tune broke 9 tackles.
• 21:37
  He's up to 5th in the country and most missed tackles forced
• 21:39
  with 33. So he's, you know, keep keeps
• 21:42
  chugging along there. And then I also thought I
• 21:46
  thought the perimeter blocking was improved.
• 21:48
  You know, obviously we this offense that wants to get the
• 21:52
  ball out quickly, you know, short, quick throws to the sides
• 21:54
  in the flats and, you know, let your playmakers make plays in
• 21:57
  space. In order to do that, you got to
• 21:59
  have a good perimeter blocking. I thought, you know, Quan fell
• 22:01
  and did a good job there. He had a couple key blocks that
• 22:04
  spurred a big catch by Jay Lane. And then we saw some
• 22:07
  trickeration on that reverse to Lane that went for, you know, 20
• 22:10
  some yards for a touchdown. So I just thought there was a
• 22:12
  bit more variety, you know, Bob Shipp coming in for for late
• 22:16
  gamut left guard, you know, he's been an improvement there.
• 22:20
  And then, you know, in terms of the the defensive special teams,
• 22:22
  obviously, you know, those two units did a really good job
• 22:24
  helping the offense. Average starting field position
• 22:26
  for Tech in this game was a 49 yard line.
• 22:29
  You know, you might, you might play this game 10 times over and
• 22:31
  not say that once because they got 3 turnovers and all of them
• 22:34
  were in plus territory for Vt. So, you know, it's kind of a
• 22:38
  kind of the traditional, you know, 3 complimentary approach
• 22:41
  to football offense, even special teams kind of helping
• 22:43
  out each other. I thought they did.
• 22:44
  They did a really good job there.
• 22:45
  And it's probably one of the more complete performances
• 22:47
  concerning the quality of the opponent.
• 22:49
  Yeah, quality opponent and everything and it was kind of,
• 22:52
  y'all all kind of hit it right. It was complimentary ball and
• 22:55
  then they stood up and just started punching where there had
• 22:58
  been times this year, especially in the first half, we got beat
• 23:02
  down. Right, we look shell shocked.
• 23:05
  When we did something, something funky would happen and we would
• 23:08
  just look, Oh no, this isn't good.
• 23:10
  And I know we came right out the gate forced to fumble, scored
• 23:12
  the touchdown, but they answered.
• 23:15
  We didn't quibble up, We didn't quibble up after that.
• 23:18
  And hopefully we are over that block because that was the
• 23:23
  biggest thing I saw Friday night.
• 23:24
  And I think it's going to go allude to what Tally said.
• 23:27
  They came over a roadblock. They finally said this is how we
• 23:31
  can play. We can punch back, we can
• 23:34
  attack, we can keep going. And then to both of y'all's
• 23:36
  points, we did look different. We look different on offense.
• 23:41
  Especially when I look over here and I see how many guys got
• 23:43
  multiple receptions. Gosnell, Jay Lane, other
• 23:47
  Gosnell, Aiden Green. They flipped the ball out to
• 23:50
  Tooting to keep people honest in the flat.
• 23:52
  A few. He didn't get any yard, but you
• 23:53
  know what that does to Sheldon's point, some of those little
• 23:56
  short quick passes, if you send Tune to one side of safeties
• 24:00
  going to linebackers going, thus you go opposite field, it's
• 24:04
  going to open up. So in reality, why was this the
• 24:07
  team we expected? Because we knew we had these
• 24:09
  players. We knew we could get into that
• 24:11
  mentality and go play with anybody in the country.
• 24:15
  So that's where we all stand on that now.
• 24:18
  Anybody, Sheldon, and we'll start with Sheldon on this one.
• 24:21
  Hey, let me let me put it. I want to.
• 24:22
  You'll put a ball on it. Yeah.
• 24:25
  I want you to put some up. What now?
• 24:27
  I want you to put what? New King said all this said,
• 24:29
  well, they did everything bad, Did they?
• 24:32
  Yeah. Yeah.
• 24:33
  Put that. Put that up.
• 24:34
  No, I just want. I just want you to put that up.
• 24:35
  I want to say something to that. OK.
• 24:37
  So they said we did everything bad.
• 24:38
  That was the worst game we played all season.
• 24:40
  Definitely a wake up call. How is it the worst game you
• 24:43
  play all season just because you had a team that punched back?
• 24:46
  Let's see here. OK.
• 24:48
  Miami's. Miami's schedule before they
• 24:50
  played us, Florida garbage. Horrible.
• 24:54
  We don't see any pitiful Florida A&M, Ball State, South Florida
• 25:00
  like, of course it's the worst game you play because you had a
• 25:03
  team that had a pulse. You know what I'm saying?
• 25:06
  I ain't saying like we are so great, but like Miami, y'all
• 25:09
  don't have a little bit of a road ahead of you, You know what
• 25:12
  I'm saying? Like you don't get in the ACC
• 25:13
  play and you, you are the number seven or eight team in the
• 25:17
  country. You're going to have people just
• 25:18
  going to have a target on you. They're going to try to punch
• 25:20
  back. Like don't get in here and act
• 25:23
  like y'all are the greatest team in the country.
• 25:25
  Like y'all ain't on Bama's level and, and even Georgia's level
• 25:29
  yet, you know what I'm saying? Y'all got a ways to go.
• 25:31
  But you had players that made plays, you know, your
• 25:34
  quarterback threw for almost 400 yards.
• 25:36
  You had a tight end hustling from one end of the field to the
• 25:40
  other to make a tackle to stop a touchdown.
• 25:42
  Like come on man, don't come in. If we going to do anything, we
• 25:45
  just at least going to tell the truth.
• 25:46
  We're going to tell the truth on a Wednesday, don't we?
• 25:49
  Don't fill y'all's heads with we did everything wrong and we
• 25:52
  still overcame. No, you got help by the refs and
• 25:56
  you won the game. Now you got to go beat Kyle.
• 25:58
  Let's see what y'all going to do when you go out there.
• 26:00
  I just want to go ahead. New king, you steal.
• 26:02
  My God. Oh, we won't go to the next
• 26:03
  time. Curtis, what you got?
• 26:05
  Well, I was saying I was pitching the Sheldon here up to
• 26:07
  this point, who's the player you've been down on or saying,
• 26:11
  why isn't this guy playing? Like I know he can play, but
• 26:15
  Friday night it it it reversed the script for you.
• 26:21
  I might need a second to chew on that.
• 26:23
  All right, go definitely all. Right.
• 26:25
  Pitch it over to Brian then. Yeah, let's go, Brian.
• 26:27
  I mean, low hanging fruit is Chiron, but I'm going to
• 26:30
  actually say Daquan Felton. I saw some life from him.
• 26:36
  The whole game he was engaged in blocking.
• 26:41
  He looked like a like he was a little bit more focused than he
• 26:44
  had been the last couple weeks. I was really impressed with with
• 26:48
  how he played overall got got him involved in the game plan a
• 26:52
  little bit. So I like that.
• 26:53
  And then obviously, you know, we know what happened with the with
• 26:56
  the Hail Mary at the end there. So I was excited to see him get
• 27:00
  back a little bit in the game plan.
• 27:02
  So I I think he kind of surprised me a little bit.
• 27:06
  About you Tally, you got to watch that late so you saw all
• 27:09
  the data. You kind of knew what was going
• 27:11
  to happen. Who who who stood out to you.
• 27:14
  Did I drop it? It's not that anybody kind of
• 27:16
  surprised me on stepping up. It was more of the coaches
• 27:21
  letting people play. You know what I'm saying?
• 27:23
  Like to see Woodson get in the game to see, you know, Caleb
• 27:27
  Spencer get more burn to see PJ Prelude get in.
• 27:31
  You know what I'm saying? So I can't say I was expecting
• 27:34
  more out of them because they haven't been put in a position
• 27:37
  to play. So it looks like like we Got
• 27:39
  Talent on the sidelines, man. I'm just waiting for the coaches
• 27:42
  to put them in and and let them do their thing.
• 27:45
  Malachi, I like you, man. You, you got to go third string,
• 27:48
  brother. I mean, you can't be that big
• 27:51
  and not get no yards. We need, we need, you know, 2
• 27:54
  yards of carry, 3 yards of carry something, give me something.
• 27:57
  Prelude look like he is a change of pace guy.
• 28:01
  Yeah, I agree with you on the change of pace.
• 28:02
  I think that's that's big because when you get somebody
• 28:05
  that can great tackles the way Tootin can and can kind of do a
• 28:10
  little bit of everything, you get somebody that's one cut and
• 28:13
  go like Prelude, that creates some problems for the defense
• 28:17
  because he gets up feels so quick.
• 28:20
  All right, Sheldon, back to you. I'll go Wilfred Pernet.
• 28:25
  I think he's been surprisingly solid, you know, graded out
• 28:28
  pretty decently against Miami and also had four QB pressures,
• 28:31
  which was a big stat. So I think I think Tech did a,
• 28:34
  you know, OK job getting to getting to Ken Ward.
• 28:36
  So I'll go open a kind of under the radar guy, you know, not
• 28:40
  something you had a ton of expectations for, but I, I was
• 28:43
  surprisingly impressed with him. All right, I'm going to go with
• 28:47
  one, and it might be a little obvious because of what he did
• 28:49
  down at the goal line. Moose Phillips.
• 28:51
  Moose Phillips the third. I think it's the maturation with
• 28:54
  safeties that he will. His tackles were cleaner this
• 28:58
  week. His coverages were cleaner.
• 29:00
  Did he miss a few fits? Yeah, but they they weren't as
• 29:04
  bad as they were three games ago.
• 29:06
  And remember, he's a sophomore, my kids a sophomore, and he's
• 29:10
  out there in that pic. He absolutely baited potential
• 29:15
  Heisman winner Cam Ward into it because he showed off like he
• 29:19
  was going to play the flat. And as soon he saw Cam hit that
• 29:21
  third back foot, you saw him undercut that wheel and he was
• 29:24
  gone. And it's the maturation of that
• 29:27
  kid. It's like he's had some games
• 29:29
  where it's like you see him with tackles and it's like, Oh my
• 29:32
  God, What we are. I know why we got to start and I
• 29:36
  know he's Got Talent. I know he likes to lay lumber,
• 29:38
  but when you see a game of that caliber, he's the guys he were
• 29:41
  tackling. If you missed those tackles,
• 29:44
  they're gone. He wasn't missing them.
• 29:47
  And Shelton, I stole something from PFS 81 tackle grade for
• 29:51
  him. That means he didn't miss much.
• 29:53
  That means he was solid. So love hearing that.
• 29:58
  All righty. OK.
• 30:01
  You know, we usually do the bad segment, but we got to bring it
• 30:03
  up. And I know, Brian, you said they
• 30:05
  played a little bit better. Can special teams just stop
• 30:08
  making law errors in every single way please?
• 30:16
  I'll I'll take the what, 58 yard field goals though?
• 30:19
  Yeah, that's John Love, though. Well.
• 30:22
  Hey, hey. They developed him, so got to
• 30:24
  give him credit there. I mean, I know we hate him.
• 30:26
  I know he loves to hate on Stu Hall, but you got to get credit
• 30:29
  where it's due. Love is love is love is
• 30:32
  automatic too, man. Like he's what is he like?
• 30:34
  He's been like like 19 for 20 or something like that.
• 30:37
  Yeah, the one that 89 block 80. Nine percent, 89% since the
• 30:41
  starter last year. One of the best kickers in the
• 30:42
  country statistically, and he has not missed an extra point.
• 30:45
  Yeah, yeah, he's tough. It's just good to have.
• 30:48
  Yeah, it's good to have that in your pocket to like, we got the
• 30:52
  confidence to roll him out there and be like, hey, man, we need
• 30:54
  you to go hit this. And most of the time, that's
• 30:57
  what he's going to do. You know what I'm saying?
• 31:00
  My son was watching the game. He had cotillion Friday night.
• 31:03
  He got back late. So he he children watched the
• 31:05
  game with me. And when he kicked that 58 yard,
• 31:08
  he was like, Dad, that's like a Justin Tucker kick because it
• 31:11
  was like a Justin Tucker. Yeah, I think it was halfway up
• 31:13
  the pole. But the other piece, why I keep
• 31:15
  going back to saying it's the small things, the end of the
• 31:20
  first half pooch in that. I know the kid back there.
• 31:24
  They mentioned it like 19 times. He's at all world speed.
• 31:28
  How low usually puts it through the end zone.
• 31:32
  We're and I don't know if that's pride or if that's Stew.
• 31:35
  It's like put it through the end zone, give them no shot.
• 31:38
  It's just it's little things. Yeah, Little.
• 31:41
  Thing it started with with the with the time out before the
• 31:45
  field goal, yeah. So if you run some more clock
• 31:49
  before the field goal. Weigh down.
• 31:52
  Then you don't have to pooch it. You don't even think about
• 31:55
  pooping it right because it's down far enough where you're
• 31:58
  not, you're not concerned as long as you boot it deep.
• 32:01
  It is what it is. I think they saw 25 seconds.
• 32:04
  I think they saw if we can run a little bit more clock on this
• 32:07
  kick off, it might help us get out out of the half.
• 32:11
  I think they overthought it. And next thing you know, you got
• 32:14
  another three on the board. And as we see that, you know,
• 32:17
  those, those threes add up. And we're going to talk about
• 32:20
  another one here in just a second.
• 32:23
  Yeah, we are. Because I like the one thing
• 32:27
  about coach Pryor, whether we when we've interviewed him or
• 32:31
  you see him at the podium, he's usually self critical.
• 32:34
  If he makes errors in the game, he calls himself out.
• 32:38
  And he said it after the game. He said I've got to be better at
• 32:41
  game management and he had more than a couple on Friday night of
• 32:46
  game management issues. What can he do?
• 32:50
  Like what's the solution there? I mean, we got helmet.
• 32:54
  I I love what somebody said. I can't remember if it was on
• 32:56
  Twitter and a chat or something. We've got helmet communications
• 33:00
  and we still got five guys giving signals like wait a
• 33:03
  second, this is 2024. Somebody said take one of those
• 33:07
  guys, just put them next to pry and be like, what are you
• 33:09
  supposed to do? No timeouts and tell him when to
• 33:13
  call timeouts. But what's this?
• 33:15
  What do y'all have y'all both played stop, stop talking about
• 33:21
  it. Stop talking about need to be
• 33:23
  better at this. We need to do this better.
• 33:25
  You know how to do it. You got to do it stop.
• 33:29
  I mean to me it don't seem like it's a it don't seem like it's a
• 33:34
  huge thing to to fix. You know what I'm saying?
• 33:38
  Like the mistakes keep being the same mistakes and at some point
• 33:43
  you got to you got to fix the mistake.
• 33:44
  You know what I'm saying? Like Sheldon, I know you ain't
• 33:47
  married yet, but that's three are married.
• 33:49
  Your wife is not going to allow you to make the same mistake 3
• 33:52
  or 4 days in a row. Oh baby, I forgot to take trash
• 33:54
  out. Oh baby, I forgot to watch them
• 33:56
  dish. Oh baby, I forgot to clean the
• 33:58
  car. Oh baby, I, I, I don't do it,
• 34:00
  but you going to be done. You going to be out of there
• 34:04
  sooner or later. You can't keep making the same
• 34:06
  mistake and then it don't matter if you make it sound good.
• 34:10
  Hey baby, no, I forgot to no, I forgot to take that trash out,
• 34:13
  but I bought you some McDonald's home here you go I got you this
• 34:17
  I got you this fish filet baby here you go it don't help the
• 34:22
  trash still didn't get taken out like come on man you got to fix
• 34:26
  the mistakes and quit talking about fixing the mistakes Stu
• 34:30
  hey man, you got to quit making mistakes on special teams If I'm
• 34:34
  proud somebody getting thrown under the bus hey man, you got
• 34:37
  to go. That's what I'm saying.
• 34:39
  I mean, if hey, if it's me or you, it's got to be you.
• 34:44
  I got to put somebody on the chopping block because sooner or
• 34:47
  later at the every game they keep showing it.
• 34:51
  Brett Pryor is blank and blank. He's won this many games.
• 34:54
  He's lost this many games. If this number keeps going up
• 34:58
  and this number keeps staying the same, you, you ain't going
• 35:02
  to have a job. You got to do something that's
• 35:05
  just it's wins and losses, like kissing babies is cool and
• 35:09
  shaking our hands and, you know, doing cool videos, it's cool.
• 35:13
  But it comes down to wins and losses.
• 35:16
  Like you got to get some of those wins.
• 35:18
  You got to steal some of those games.
• 35:20
  And you cannot continue to talk about we should have won that,
• 35:24
  you know what I'm saying? You have to be on the other side
• 35:26
  of some of those wins and go, we did win that.
• 35:28
  That's a big game. You know, that Miami game was a
• 35:30
  huge game. Brett Price still doesn't have a
• 35:34
  signature win. He's been here three years.
• 35:37
  When does he get it? That's all I'm saying.
• 35:41
  He had the opportunity. He was right there.
• 35:43
  He was right there. Yeah, I don't, I, I, I hate to
• 35:46
  be pessimistic, but I just, I don't see what the solution is.
• 35:49
  Like I, I, I think I tweeted this on Friday, but like there's
• 35:52
  a certain you have to have like this, this internal clock in
• 35:54
  your head when it comes to game management, kind of like the
• 35:56
  quarterback who, you know, can, it can process things really
• 35:59
  quickly. It's a really hard skill to
• 36:01
  teach. I just, I think prize, you know,
• 36:03
  he's been a long time assistant. I just don't think he has that
• 36:05
  internal clock when it comes to game, when it comes to time
• 36:08
  management. And, you know, and I know some
• 36:11
  people said, like, Hey, we should hire an assistant to, you
• 36:13
  know, kind of baby him. Like, I don't know if there's
• 36:15
  any other school in the country that does that like to, to have
• 36:18
  like a special assistant for clock management on the field.
• 36:20
  I feel like that would just add to the, you know, chaos that's
• 36:22
  going on. Because again, you got to think
• 36:24
  about from his perspective, you know, he's thinking about what's
• 36:26
  what's our play call? You know, he's got to think
• 36:28
  about like, you know, so many different aspects of the game.
• 36:31
  It's hard to balance when you're actually on the sideline doing
• 36:34
  it in real time. You know, obviously we criticize
• 36:36
  them as fans, but you know, we're kind of looking at like
• 36:38
  the clock management perspective.
• 36:39
  You know, we're not thinking about all the things he's
• 36:41
  thinking about. So I just, I don't know, it's
• 36:44
  just it's a skill you either have, you have it or don't.
• 36:47
  And we're 29 games in. I just don't know if we're going
• 36:49
  to get. It yeah.
• 36:50
  And I think the the the problem comes more in those like crunch
• 36:54
  time situations, right? So, you know, when you look at
• 36:56
  something, when we talk about, you know, Felton getting out of
• 37:00
  bounds, you got to juggle the fact that you got to get the
• 37:06
  play in, you got to get back on the line of scrimmage.
• 37:09
  But you also, you got to jaw at the ref a little bit and get in
• 37:11
  his ear. And you got to be able to do all
• 37:14
  of that at one time without wasting 8 or 9 seconds, which it
• 37:18
  ultimately ended up happening. You know, that's what's 1 play.
• 37:22
  You know, there, there's a handful of plays that happened
• 37:24
  on that last drive that I think the amount of action going on
• 37:30
  contributed to the poor clock management, not, not just the
• 37:34
  fact that he wasn't aware of, of the situation we were in.
• 37:39
  So it's, it's not, it's not just an awareness problem.
• 37:42
  I, I think it was managing multiple crises at one time,
• 37:47
  right? So I think, I think that's,
• 37:48
  that's the bigger issue. And I think that's just going to
• 37:51
  be something that takes some time to adjust to, for someone
• 37:55
  that hasn't had to have that role, you know, before coming to
• 37:59
  Virginia Tech. And, and to Sheldon's point, it
• 38:02
  it it's, it is just going to take time.
• 38:04
  I don't it's not necessarily something that you can flip a
• 38:07
  switch on, but it that's frustrating for a fan base,
• 38:10
  especially when you know decisions like that matter in
• 38:16
  those one score situations and we have not been very good in
• 38:20
  those one score situations under pride.
• 38:23
  So Yep, in in a lot of those one score situations, it's been
• 38:26
  issues of the management of the clock of knowing, OK, now it's
• 38:29
  time to call a timeout like, oh, no, no, in the first half.
• 38:32
  No, don't call a timeout. They're not using their timeout.
• 38:35
  Just wait. They want to use their timeout.
• 38:38
  That's fine to Danny. Let it run all the way down,
• 38:40
  down. As far as you can.
• 38:41
  I'm petitioning for this. Virginia Tech should hire
• 38:44
  Shelton to be the clock manager on the sidelines.
• 38:46
  That's all. Your job will be.
• 38:47
  Shelton the clock know exactly when the toilet he's available.
• 38:51
  He needs a job. He's an alumni.
• 38:53
  He understands clock management. He will tell you, Coach Pratt,
• 38:57
  when to call the time out, when not to.
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  He will tell you they're gonna keep him inbound.
• 39:03
  You need to call the time out right now so.
• 39:05
  Yeah, no, I could do it and it's fine because I played Madden
• 39:08
  growing up and I feel like my generation knows clock
• 39:10
  management pretty well. The older generation, the older
• 39:13
  generation, they don't have that thing inside.
• 39:17
  If you play Madden every single day for like 5 years, you have
• 39:20
  it in your brain. And by the way, just for the
• 39:23
  last commenter peacefully asked about the clock not stopping
• 39:26
  when Felton went out of bounds on last drive.
• 39:28
  I know the player talking about it's because Felton was going
• 39:30
  backwards or sideways if you go backwards or sideways to get out
• 39:34
  of bounds. I always thought sideways meant
• 39:36
  the clock stopped backwards. I always knew was a running
• 39:39
  clock. I never thought sideways cuz.
• 39:40
  Yeah, the the refs might give you some leeway there, but
• 39:43
  generally speaking, if you if you try to angle backwards out
• 39:45
  of bounds, the clock's not gonna stop.
• 39:47
  And I think that's what happened there, so.
• 39:48
  Just you would have known that and told Coach Pratt called out
• 39:51
  Here we got 2 here, we've got to burn 1.
• 39:53
  Either go all the time out now or get a damn play in fast
• 39:56
  instead of wasting 10 seconds. Like run it quick, run it quick.
• 39:59
  I think, I think another thing we need to start working on, and
• 40:01
  this is an offensive coordinator situation is getting multiple
• 40:04
  plays into. The huddle in those two-minute
• 40:07
  situations, you need to have a play ready to go you need to be
• 40:10
  able to get on the line, understand down in distance,
• 40:13
  understand where you are in the moment and and have plays that
• 40:17
  you can get in there accordingly without having to scramble.
• 40:22
  Yeah, after a call like that where you're like all right, are
• 40:26
  we getting the clock favorable here are we not so. 100 percent,
• 40:31
  100%. Hi Brian.
• 40:32
  I'm I'm gonna pitch it back to you on this because feel like
• 40:34
  you might have a very strong feel one way or the other.
• 40:37
  Would you have pulled the trigger on the fake up 10?
• 40:41
  I would have taken the three. I don't hate the call itself.
• 40:45
  I hate the execution by a certain tackle that shall remain
• 40:48
  nameless. Yeah.
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  So I mean that that that's kind of where I land on it.
• 40:53
  I think that we I don't I don't hate the call.
• 40:57
  I would have taken the three though, because I feel like in
• 41:01
  games like that where it's where it's tight, where you have an
• 41:04
  offense that can score the ball on you, when you get a big play
• 41:08
  like that, I know you hate not coming away with six, but 3 is
• 41:14
  better than than not coming away with anything.
• 41:18
  And again, you got to execute. I mean, it's it's, it's a, it's
• 41:21
  a first down if you execute. Cal taking the points going for
• 41:27
  it yeah, I probably would have I probably would have took the
• 41:31
  points in that situation. Just me myself.
• 41:34
  Like I just feel like, you know, we you need all the points you
• 41:40
  can get and if they're there, take them.
• 41:42
  But if I'm in that game and I'm looking how we're playing, I
• 41:48
  mean, I'm not going to go with a little brother Carl.
• 41:50
  I'm not going with a fake field goal.
• 41:51
  I'm going to put my offense on the line and I'm going to say
• 41:55
  we're going to go our best play and we're going to either get
• 41:58
  this or we're not. I'm not trying to get a ball to
• 42:01
  Harrison St. Germain to get me 3 yards.
• 42:05
  When I got Tooting that they cannot stop and I got Kyron that
• 42:09
  can get us. Like, I just feel like that
• 42:11
  wasn't a call. If I'm going to do that's a
• 42:13
  little brother call, you know what I'm saying?
• 42:15
  Like that's that, that's it. Like if I'm playing my son in
• 42:19
  basketball, which he's more athletic than I am now, but when
• 42:23
  he's small, he's got to do stuff to steal points.
• 42:27
  Like now he's just going to go shoot or he's going to go to the
• 42:30
  goal because he's quicker than me and make a layup.
• 42:31
  Like you don't have to. You got to get out of that
• 42:35
  mindset. Like when you're playing like
• 42:37
  we're playing that day, I'm saying hi y'all.
• 42:39
  What you think we're going to go for it?
• 42:40
  So I'm, I'm not mad at him for going for it.
• 42:43
  I'm mad at the call. If you're going to go for it,
• 42:45
  what about you, Sheldon? I would have preferred to just
• 42:49
  go for it straight up from scrimmage.
• 42:51
  I like the way the offense was moving the ball and I, I trust,
• 42:54
  you know, try to try to have your skill guys make a play in
• 42:57
  space. Based on what price on the
• 42:58
  postgame, it seems like they got a certain look from Miami that
• 43:01
  that gave them the idea to go for it.
• 43:04
  I guess, you know, they had to like check into it.
• 43:07
  So they probably saw something that they liked.
• 43:08
  Obviously it didn't work out. But again, we talk about
• 43:11
  compounding mistakes. Again, if you make if you if you
• 43:14
  manage the end of the first half correctly, you're +3.
• 43:16
  So that means you're leading by 13 in that situation rather than
• 43:20
  10. If you're up 13, hey, can the
• 43:22
  field go up by 16? That's two touchdowns, +2 to
• 43:25
  point conversions. Maybe you're thinking that's a
• 43:27
  little bit more, you know, a little bit more manageable there
• 43:29
  and said you're up by 10. So there's more, you know,
• 43:32
  ambiguity in terms of how you play it because you want to go
• 43:34
  up by 17, you know, go up by three scores.
• 43:36
  So again, stakes compound mistakes.
• 43:39
  All right, agreed. I am.
• 43:42
  I like what y'all are saying go, you know if you can go for it
• 43:45
  put you guys on the field, you know that's fine.
• 43:48
  Take the point because at that point in time, 10 point game,
• 43:52
  that was the pick play right? That was the Caleb Spencer pick
• 43:56
  that we got deep. You have all the momentum, all
• 44:00
  that fake does. If you don't pull it off or if
• 44:02
  you don't get it on 4th down, they take the momentum back.
• 44:05
  You go down there and they stop and you kick the field goal.
• 44:08
  They didn't take much momentum back because now they look up
• 44:10
  and say we got to drive the field.
• 44:12
  Not once. We got to drive the field twice.
• 44:14
  We can't screw up either one of our extra point kicks because if
• 44:17
  we do, it's a tie game. If we make a mistake going down,
• 44:20
  they can sit on this ball and start eating clock, which is our
• 44:23
  enemy. But that's what my thing was.
• 44:26
  I'm like it was the momentum shift because as soon as we
• 44:29
  missed it, as soon as somebody got blocked in the Harrison St.
• 44:33
  Germain, not going to mention the name, but the number, y'all
• 44:36
  know what it is? They had all the momentum.
• 44:39
  They did. They had all the momentum.
• 44:41
  It's like, oh, they were trying to put us away.
• 44:43
  Are we going to go? We're going to go get them.
• 44:45
  It's like the horror movie. I'm going to try to kill him the
• 44:48
  best I can instead of getting out of there.
• 44:50
  All right, so I'm going to end it with this because or almost
• 44:55
  ended with this. Do y'all think Miami is a legit
• 44:58
  team? Could they be to the second
• 45:01
  round of the playoffs? Yes.
• 45:05
  I think so. I think depending on the
• 45:07
  matchup, yes. All right, I'm with y'all on
• 45:11
  that. I think they are.
• 45:11
  I think they have enough weapons now.
• 45:14
  I do think they showed some flaws.
• 45:16
  I think that left side of that offensive line, if you go put an
• 45:20
  elite guy who's going to the NFL, that kid got worked.
• 45:23
  Yeah, I got work by APR all night.
• 45:26
  They have their flaws, but they are explosive.
• 45:29
  And when you got a when, oh, look at this, look at this, look
• 45:32
  at this. This is a lot of people hating
• 45:34
  right now. No, they ain't legit, Chris.
• 45:37
  They ain't legit. They're legit.
• 45:39
  They are. Legit I think Cam.
• 45:41
  Mommy got a good. Team So the thing that impressed
• 45:43
  me watching Cam Ward, I mean, obviously the physical tools are
• 45:47
  there, but his poise in the face of Rush, in the face like that,
• 45:54
  that was the thing that impressed me the most about his
• 45:57
  game is that he never flinched. Chris, I'm going to say
• 46:02
  something right here, Chris. They averaged 5 yards of carry
• 46:05
  on us running the ball. They can run the ball.
• 46:08
  They struggled. They struggled stopping the run.
• 46:13
  But we also have two of the most dynamic players in the country
• 46:17
  back there. Yeah.
• 46:18
  I mean, you got to give us. That's also say you got to give
• 46:20
  us credit too. It's not like they just were a
• 46:23
  horrible team. It's just and again, like I
• 46:26
  said, the new king is not like they played a bad game.
• 46:28
  Miami scored 38 points. They didn't play the bad game.
• 46:32
  They just you know, they play the team that punched back.
• 46:36
  So I'm interested to see what they do this week for for Miami.
• 46:42
  All right, anything else y'all want to bring up because we have
• 46:45
  just about got to the end here. You know Miami missed 19 tackles
• 46:50
  in that game. Half one would have tuned,
• 46:53
  weren't they? Yeah, nine were tuned, so
• 46:56
  obviously, you know, that kind of plays into it.
• 46:58
  But still, I mean, certainly not their not their finest
• 47:00
  performance. I think if you're a Miami fan,
• 47:02
  you're kind of look at that like, man, we, you know, we made
• 47:04
  some mistakes but still got out of it, you know, with a win
• 47:07
  against it, you know, a decent team.
• 47:09
  Yeah. So kind of, you know, different
• 47:11
  ways to look at it obviously. Yeah, and I mean, I'm not, I'm
• 47:13
  not trying to say that Miami played a, a their best game.
• 47:17
  I I don't think, I don't think we got their best game, but I
• 47:19
  think we got a good game from them.
• 47:21
  Yeah, when you got when you got received with catching the ball
• 47:25
  on their back. Yeah.
• 47:26
  They had a little something on their side, that's all I'm
• 47:28
  saying. Like they they they got a, they
• 47:31
  got some playmakers. They did what they had to do.
• 47:33
  So I got to give them their props on that.
• 47:36
  But I mean, when you talk about missed tackles, sometimes it's
• 47:39
  the player like I seen Tootin bouncing off people making stuff
• 47:42
  happen. I seen Karen bouncing off people
• 47:45
  making stuff happen. And Gosnell, he's just, he's
• 47:49
  slippery. Like, come on man, we got
• 47:51
  players too. We got it.
• 47:52
  Our coaches got to understand that, you know, as well as our
• 47:55
  fans and the players themselves. Like man, y'all dudes too, you
• 47:59
  know, we got to go into games the same way, you know, we don't
• 48:02
  we shouldn't have to wait till Game 5 till we see this guy.
• 48:06
  We shouldn't have to wait, you know, till whatever to see this.
• 48:10
  Like man, just if we start doing this, we ain't even having these
• 48:14
  conversations. You know what I'm saying?
• 48:15
  Like we sitting at 5 and O or four and one so 100% all righty
• 48:22
  so let's flip it just a couple things on if y'all have not
• 48:26
  heard. I know we didn't talk about it
• 48:28
  last week, but you know there were more pressing things last
• 48:31
  week. May 7th 2025 Metallica will play
• 48:35
  Lane stadium probably I think they're saying 80,000 plus
• 48:40
  there. Brian has already purchased his
• 48:43
  tickets. He is going, he was one of the
• 48:47
  first ones, but pretty cool regardless whether you're a fan
• 48:51
  of Metallica or not, it's pretty damn cool.
• 48:54
  They got that band. They've been around 40 years to
• 48:58
  come to Blacksburg. That's what I said about that.
• 49:07
  Ain't got it. That what I say about that.
• 49:10
  We're for the will these dudes out here in wheelchairs to play
• 49:14
  what we waiting what they wait till 2025 to do this for
• 49:20
  Sheldon? Are you going to see Metallica
• 49:21
  play? Nope, that's not my cup of tea.
• 49:25
  Them kids ain't going to see them.
• 49:28
  That's going to be people are older than me going up, man, get
• 49:32
  some. I'm going to calm down what we
• 49:34
  got next, Curtis. We'll go back to that later on.
• 49:38
  Y'all know? Y'all know how I feel about
• 49:40
  them. Well, listen, you hated the song
• 49:45
  until you went to spring in a few years ago and we completely
• 49:47
  turned you around on No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
• 49:51
  I didn't. I didn't hate the song.
• 49:53
  That's not it. I didn't hate the song.
• 49:55
  I hated people's reaction to the song.
• 49:58
  When all I heard on Twitter was this is back when we had
• 50:02
  Twitter. This wasn't X.
• 50:04
  All I heard was this is what makes our interest the best.
• 50:07
  This is what I'm like, no, y'all make the interest the best.
• 50:09
  The fans do. Like the fans show up and
• 50:12
  they're going to support. Like it don't matter what song
• 50:14
  I'm playing now because of that song.
• 50:17
  And people have embraced it and they show up and do the same
• 50:21
  thing every week. Yeah, that's cool.
• 50:23
  But we ain't just that. We shouldn't be just the
• 50:25
  interest, you know what I'm saying?
• 50:26
  Like that's that. That was my take on it.
• 50:28
  I never hated the song, you know?
• 50:31
  I'm just looking at it like, I feel like we fantasize Metallica
• 50:35
  too much, like we give them too much credit.
• 50:37
  I'm glad they show up. I hope they start wearing
• 50:39
  Virginia Tech stuff. Like when I see them go on shows
• 50:42
  and they start wearing Virginia Tech hats and talking about
• 50:45
  their song being played at Lane Stadium, maybe I feel a little
• 50:48
  bit better about them. I feel like we get them more
• 50:50
  publicity than they give us. That's just my opinion, all
• 50:54
  right? And with that are in the middle
• 50:58
  here. So before we flip over to know
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  Blacksburg. Well, we got to close it and we
• 51:13
  got to move on because the boys got to get on a plane tomorrow.
• 51:16
  I think they're getting on the plane about lunchtime tomorrow
• 51:19
  and flying out West down to Stanford, down on the Farm.
• 51:23
  And we do need to get to know the enemy of the two and three
• 51:28
  or two and two Stanford Cardinal coming off basically getting
• 51:32
  thumped by Clemson down in Death Valley last week.
• 51:36
  So let's talk about them. And I want to talk about their
• 51:38
  offense. One of the more unusual or
• 51:41
  unique things you see in college or you don't see in college
• 51:44
  football. Their offensive coordinator is
• 51:46
  Troy Taylor. He is also their head coach.
• 51:49
  Brian, hey, could you do that even at the Pop Warner level,
• 51:54
  first of all? And then what's give us a little
• 51:56
  bit about Troy Taylor's offense? Could I personally do that?
• 52:00
  Or could you? Personally do that at the Pop
• 52:02
  Warner level. I could, I could personally do
• 52:05
  it at the Pop Warner level, but I wouldn't want to go much past
• 52:08
  that with, with, with my abilities.
• 52:11
  Now. You know, I, I, I had a head
• 52:13
  coach at hand and Sydney that was also the offensive
• 52:16
  coordinator. So I know that that can it can
• 52:17
  be done and done at a high level.
• 52:21
  You know, 2003 in terms of scoring offense, we were number
• 52:25
  one in all of college football across all divisions.
• 52:28
  So it can be done. That being said, you know, it's
• 52:34
  it's not something that you see at the power 4 level very often.
• 52:38
  It let alone, you know, if you look at just Division One in
• 52:41
  general. So this is going to be a
• 52:45
  quarterback power option attack. It's, it's a, it's a run heavy
• 52:50
  system. It runs through the quarterback
• 52:52
  in that option attack. They're going to use their tight
• 52:56
  ends both as blockers and as receiving threats.
• 52:58
  You got two out there, Benjamin, you you Rosik and Sam Roush.
• 53:03
  Those are the tight ends that are in this offense.
• 53:07
  It, it's, it's an interesting offense because it, it is a,
• 53:11
  it's a run heavy team, but I don't think that they are
• 53:14
  necessarily ready up front to be super successful with that.
• 53:20
  But when they do get into a rhythm, they can, they can move
• 53:23
  the ball somewhat effectively. And you know, their quarterback,
• 53:27
  who we may or may not see is, is pretty effective both with his
• 53:31
  legs and throwing the football. Yeah, let's talk about him
• 53:36
  straight up here. Let's talk about Ashton Daniels,
• 53:40
  A a kind of a low prospect actually from the East Coast,
• 53:45
  played at Buford High School down in Georgia.
• 53:47
  Buford, if I can remember, that is where Dylan Witke went to
• 53:51
  right? So Mike, correct me if I'm wrong
• 53:54
  out there came out that was a three start back in 2022, six
• 54:00
  foot three, 200 lbs. And so far this season, like you
• 54:06
  said, Brian, lots of run. He is leading the team in
• 54:08
  rushing 600 yards passing, 5 touchdowns, 6 picks, 50 rushes,
• 54:15
  250 yards per. So obviously averaging a buck
• 54:19
  over 60 a game. So definitely a threat in that.
• 54:22
  What are you seeing from him? But I know he got banged up at
• 54:26
  the Clemson game and who potentially could be taking his
• 54:29
  place. Yeah.
• 54:30
  I mean, you kind of said it there.
• 54:32
  I mean, this guy is really good in the running game, really good
• 54:35
  with his reads in that option, has the athletic ability to make
• 54:41
  the big play, but is very consistent with getting good
• 54:44
  yardage in that running game. You know, when he comes to the
• 54:50
  pocket and and throwing the ball, he can make those throws
• 54:52
  on the run. He has pretty good poise, but he
• 54:55
  does take some risk with the football and and that's evidence
• 54:59
  with when you look at that touchdown interception ratio
• 55:02
  there. But when we look at who might
• 55:05
  end up starting in his place if he's not able to go, you're
• 55:07
  looking at Justin Lampson. I'd say just from a pure rushing
• 55:12
  standpoint, probably a little bit better.
• 55:14
  Doesn't have the reads or the vision that Daniels does, but I
• 55:19
  think in terms of pure athleticism right up there as
• 55:22
  well. But definitely does not possess
• 55:25
  the arm talent. But we haven't necessarily seen
• 55:29
  him unleash a whole lot yet. So I'd have to go look up the
• 55:34
  stuff on Lampson. I had a chance to look at a
• 55:37
  couple receivers. I know Tyler, I know you got
• 55:40
  one. But I want to talk about the
• 55:41
  receiver, Ishmael sis, because I feel like if when I look at his
• 55:47
  body type, bigger guy came out of Colorado five star basically
• 55:53
  playing here as a red shirt freshman, second on the team.
• 55:57
  Got a little bit of run last year.
• 56:01
  Did anything pop on tape for him as you were looking, Brian?
• 56:06
  Yeah, he's there probably down the field threat.
• 56:09
  They like to run him, you know, deep routes, wheel routes.
• 56:13
  They like to get him the ball down the field.
• 56:14
  He let him use his body to go up and make those plays.
• 56:19
  I think he's going to be a handful.
• 56:21
  I think he's a guy that you got to make sure doesn't get behind
• 56:23
  you. You know they don't throw the
• 56:25
  ball a ton, but they are pretty effective with hitting the deep
• 56:31
  balls when they do go for him. All right, Tally, were you able
• 56:38
  to get that info on the second wide receiver?
• 56:41
  Yeah, I got a little bit on him, so I ain't going to mess up his
• 56:44
  name. But is it Elik AO Manor?
• 56:49
  Does that sound right? Ayomano, I think.
• 56:52
  There we go. Whoever that the guy that caught
• 56:54
  all the passes against Colorado last year, we just don't need
• 56:59
  him to do that. I mean, this year he's got 21
• 57:02
  receptions, 284 yards, 2 touchdowns, averaging about 13
• 57:07
  yards per catch. I mean, he's a handful.
• 57:10
  He's he's 62, about 210. He's a a big receiver and he's a
• 57:15
  he's very skilled, probably an NFL guy.
• 57:18
  He's just a sophomore. So he's a very talented
• 57:22
  receiver. But again, we have some talented
• 57:27
  people as well. We're just going to have to
• 57:29
  figure out how to scheme to not let him get loose on us.
• 57:33
  But I think more of the problem is defending the run and then
• 57:37
  them busting a big plate. You know, you got a quarterback
• 57:39
  back there that can move around or a couple of quarterbacks back
• 57:42
  there moving around and then next thing you know, you got,
• 57:45
  you know, hitting hit one of those guys deep.
• 57:48
  That's what we're going to have to fight against this week.
• 57:51
  Yeah, and I mean, they're going to break in a not a not as much
• 57:54
  as as we saw against Vanderbilt, but they'll be some some triple
• 57:57
  option elements thrown in there from time to time.
• 58:00
  So we got to make sure that we're sticking with our men
• 58:03
  outside and not getting our eyes in the backfield.
• 58:05
  If you're a cornerback or a safety and get caught kick
• 58:09
  caught peeking. As far as Ayamano is concerned,
• 58:14
  he's got a powerful frame, kind of reminds me of a little bit
• 58:16
  taller Jalen Lane in a lot of ways, You know, good burst, good
• 58:21
  speed, separates well on those, like in breaking routes, on
• 58:25
  slants, on ends, on digs. But I'd say probably the biggest
• 58:30
  thing that he does poorly is that he will drop the ball.
• 58:34
  He'll put the ball on the turf. He's not as effective with that
• 58:38
  catch percentage as, you know, your typical NFL wide receiver
• 58:41
  would be. So that's probably the biggest
• 58:42
  weakness that he might have. All right, Sean, I know you said
• 58:48
  you did a little bit of research concerning their offensive line
• 58:50
  and their rushing. What?
• 58:53
  What are you finding out about that?
• 58:56
  Well, it hasn't been great individually.
• 58:57
  Stanford does not have any offensive lineman that grades
• 59:01
  top 50 in the ACC. And when you look at their their
• 59:05
  team sets overall 91st in rushing success rate, they don't
• 59:09
  really stand up particularly in anyone statistical category.
• 59:13
  You know, offense overall 83rd or excuse me, 79th in SP plus.
• 59:19
  So, you know, not great there. They're 49th in pass blocking
• 59:21
  efficiency, which is, you know, kind of on the lower end of
• 59:24
  power power four and they've struggled a lot in early downs.
• 59:28
  So 126 in EPA. So obviously when you get behind
• 59:32
  the sticks, you know, that makes it, that makes even tougher, you
• 59:35
  know, facing a lot, lots of third lungs, which if you can't,
• 59:39
  you know, if, if you're struggling past recession, kind
• 59:41
  of makes everything worse. So, you know, like Brian said,
• 59:44
  they do throw a pretty decent amount of deep balls.
• 59:47
  They just aren't particularly successful at completing a lot
• 59:50
  of them. What did you see from Pass Pro
• 59:55
  and just, you know, obviously the numbers are saying a lot of
• 59:57
  things there, but what did you just get the feel of to say if
• 1:00:01
  we do X on the defensive line, they're going to absolutely
• 1:00:06
  struggle? I don't think we're going to
• 1:00:08
  have a problem getting pressure with four.
• 1:00:10
  When you think about APR, when you think about Burgos, I, I, I
• 1:00:13
  think we're not going to have a problem getting into their
• 1:00:15
  backfield. I think the thing that concerns
• 1:00:19
  me and, and you know, we saw us some of it last week with Cam
• 1:00:22
  Ward is that, you know, you got to be cognizant of those pass
• 1:00:26
  rush lanes and make sure you don't give athletic quarterbacks
• 1:00:30
  lanes to kind of steal third downs from you.
• 1:00:34
  So that's the thing that that concerns me.
• 1:00:35
  But from a just a being able to line up and and play with them
• 1:00:40
  in the trenches, I think we we've got them in spades looking
• 1:00:43
  at our defensive line against that offensive line.
• 1:00:47
  All righty. So there's a little bit of the
• 1:00:49
  offensive potentially what we could see Saturday afternoon
• 1:00:53
  330, is it ACC Network Saturday? I haven't seen the the network
• 1:00:59
  yet, might find that out for me. Efforting.
• 1:01:03
  Efredine, Efredine. But while Brian or Tally or
• 1:01:07
  Shelton find that, we are going to flip over to the defensive
• 1:01:10
  side of the ball. Brian defense led by Bobby
• 1:01:15
  April. Give me a little bit about this.
• 1:01:18
  I think it's got one of those unique defenses, right?
• 1:01:22
  Yeah. I mean, we're kind of looking at
• 1:01:24
  that, that 245 defense that we saw some with the UNC up until
• 1:01:32
  the last last couple years there.
• 1:01:34
  But they will also shift over into a three, three stack.
• 1:01:37
  So you get a little bit of multiplicity there where they're
• 1:01:40
  going to have multiple fronts thrown at our offense.
• 1:01:44
  And you know, primarily they're going to be in that.
• 1:01:47
  That 245 though, especially in this passing downs very much
• 1:01:51
  predicated on stopping the run. First they want to get you
• 1:01:55
  behind the sticks and then, you know, bring pressure from
• 1:01:58
  multiple levels, Bring some of those pressure packages that
• 1:02:01
  confuse the offensive line, get you to make some mistakes so
• 1:02:04
  that that's really their their goal and their bread and butter
• 1:02:07
  is to play well on 1st down. And then you send some of their
• 1:02:12
  their outside linebackers at you.
• 1:02:15
  All righty. And talking about sending those
• 1:02:18
  outside linebackers, talking about pressure, they are really
• 1:02:22
  LED in that department by a guy by the name of David Bailey.
• 1:02:26
  David Bailey was a top 50 player when he came out in 2022.
• 1:02:31
  He was one of the top five edges in the country.
• 1:02:33
  He's 6 foot three. He's about 240 lbs now out of
• 1:02:37
  Mater D High School. That's a big one out in
• 1:02:39
  California that puts out studs. Last year, 5 sacks with 34
• 1:02:45
  tackles. This year in just four games,
• 1:02:48
  two sacks already, 8 total tackles.
• 1:02:50
  Brian, I know we were going to talk about kind of the leader
• 1:02:54
  there, Anthony Franklin, but you messaged me and said I like
• 1:02:58
  Franklin, but we got to talk about David Bailey.
• 1:03:00
  What? What did you see from him on
• 1:03:01
  that take? Yeah, I mean, he's the dude.
• 1:03:04
  He stands out on this defense. He plays that outside linebacker
• 1:03:08
  spot in their base set, but he will be a stack backer in the
• 1:03:11
  335. He comes off the edge with with
• 1:03:16
  with really good balance, able to bend very well, get around
• 1:03:21
  the outside, make plays on the quarterback really good bull
• 1:03:25
  rush isn't lost when he's asked to to have coverage
• 1:03:30
  responsibilities either. So he's he's he's a little
• 1:03:32
  versatile in that way. So he's really kind of a do it
• 1:03:34
  all guy from that position. All righty.
• 1:03:39
  And so Shelton sent me this as well.
• 1:03:42
  RSD Man 97 ACC Network 330I think we are there Bell Cal
• 1:03:49
  there because they know we're going to come in to watch every
• 1:03:52
  week. Valley.
• 1:03:54
  Were you able to get that stuff for Tristan Sinclair?
• 1:03:57
  Yeah, Tristan Sinclair, one of the linebackers, he's actually
• 1:04:02
  he was a when you talk about high school coming out of high
• 1:04:04
  school, he was a stud coming out of high school, borderline 5
• 1:04:08
  star player, big offers, you know, Notre Dame, Colorado,
• 1:04:15
  Texas A&M, Nebraska, Southern Cal, Utah.
• 1:04:20
  So had a lot of good offers and and has been, you know, very
• 1:04:24
  productive at at at Stanford. He's their leading Tyler right
• 1:04:30
  now. He's got a sack so far this
• 1:04:33
  season and about 24 tackles. So he's going to be a handful.
• 1:04:38
  You know, they're in that line back in court as well.
• 1:04:41
  Brian, what you got on him? Yeah, I mean, the big thing
• 1:04:45
  about him, I mean, he's their definitely their best run
• 1:04:47
  defense linebacker on the field, really good at shedding
• 1:04:51
  blockers, beating the play in the gap.
• 1:04:54
  I wouldn't call him as good sideline to sideline as maybe
• 1:04:58
  some of the other linebackers we've seen this year, but he
• 1:05:01
  makes up for it and just having a nose for the football and kind
• 1:05:04
  of being wherever he needs to be.
• 1:05:06
  So definitely a guy that we got to account for every play on
• 1:05:11
  that, that linebacking unit for the Cardinal.
• 1:05:14
  All right, Sheldon, send me a quick message.
• 1:05:17
  Sheldon, you said you had a couple things on David Bailey,
• 1:05:20
  obviously. Yeah, so he is graded out at at
• 1:05:24
  91 on PFF, not only the highest on the team, but also the
• 1:05:27
  highest in the ACC. So they they like him the most.
• 1:05:31
  Now he he has been banged up the past couple of games, which is
• 1:05:33
  why he's only played 39 snaps total the last few games.
• 1:05:37
  But he does have 11 quarterback pressures, which is obviously,
• 1:05:41
  you know, a really a gaudy total at this point in the season.
• 1:05:45
  Like I said, Sinclair at the linebacker spot, leading tackler
• 1:05:49
  Bernadel grades out at 70 on BFF, really good and run
• 1:05:52
  defense, another one of their linebackers.
• 1:05:55
  And then I've got a couple, you know, decent corners, Colin
• 1:05:58
  Wright, who's averaging 4.2 yards per per target when he's
• 1:06:03
  thrown out this year and has a really good pass rating when
• 1:06:07
  teams go at him. So, you know, pretty decent,
• 1:06:09
  decent corners overall. Defensively, again, still not
• 1:06:13
  great. 90th and SP plus and 102nd and success rate allowed
• 1:06:18
  in particular, they've actually struggled overall as a
• 1:06:21
  secondary. They rank 112th and drop back
• 1:06:24
  success rates that includes passing attempts and Sachs as
• 1:06:26
  well. You know, they just they just
• 1:06:29
  haven't really been good in that that back four there.
• 1:06:32
  Yep. And you and you mentioned Colin,
• 1:06:34
  right? And, and Brian, I want you to
• 1:06:37
  tell me what you were seeing on tape with him because he's
• 1:06:39
  listed on the depth chart as a corner.
• 1:06:41
  And you know, so far this season as far as a corner goes and
• 1:06:45
  playing last year, he's already got 2 picks this year.
• 1:06:48
  One of those was in the Clemson game, couple tackles for loss
• 1:06:53
  last year, 5 past deflections. Where are they lining him up?
• 1:06:58
  Because you know, they're saying corner, but are they doing a lot
• 1:07:02
  of different things? Is he's like their gadget guy
• 1:07:04
  they can do anything with? Yeah, I mean, he's basically a
• 1:07:07
  nickel safety is kind of how they're deploying him.
• 1:07:10
  You know, he'll be, he'll play kind of a box safety.
• 1:07:14
  He'll he'll also, you know, line up outside of the nickel so that
• 1:07:17
  they'll use him a couple different ways, but that that's
• 1:07:20
  really how they're lining him up.
• 1:07:21
  And you know, looking at him play, I mean, he's really sound
• 1:07:24
  from a technical standpoint. I like the way he plays
• 1:07:27
  football. He does a really good job of
• 1:07:28
  playing with leverage out there on the outside.
• 1:07:31
  So he's definitely somebody that you know we've got to account
• 1:07:35
  for and like I said from from that role, he is very good and
• 1:07:39
  run support, but also isn't a liability in that, in that pass
• 1:07:43
  coverage piece as well. All righty.
• 1:07:46
  So there is sort of the know your enemy, some key players
• 1:07:50
  from the Stanford Cardinal as we go out there Saturday to take
• 1:07:55
  them on. But, you know, always we're
• 1:07:58
  going to talk about what we feel are the keys to the Hokies
• 1:08:01
  games. So Jonathan Talley, I'm going to
• 1:08:03
  kick to you first. Any specific keys, whether
• 1:08:07
  mental, statistical, just feel for this game for the Hokies,
• 1:08:17
  Yeah, It's just punch. It's not mental.
• 1:08:19
  It's physical. You got a punch.
• 1:08:21
  Like go drink a Red Bull and act like a idiot from the trailer
• 1:08:28
  park when Alabama loses. Punch, punch something, not
• 1:08:35
  physically punch somebody. But you got to go into the game
• 1:08:38
  and you got to have the same mindset as you had against
• 1:08:40
  Miami. Not just because it's Miami, not
• 1:08:42
  just because they got the little number by their name.
• 1:08:45
  You got to go into the game knowing that it's going to be a
• 1:08:47
  fight every game. If we win in every game, like we
• 1:08:50
  went into that Miami game, I don't want to keep dwelling on
• 1:08:52
  it. I feel like things would have
• 1:08:54
  been much different. So if you got to go into this
• 1:08:57
  game ready to punch. And I think we'll be fine if we
• 1:08:59
  if we do that. Sean, what about you?
• 1:09:03
  What? What is your key in this game?
• 1:09:07
  I mean, I think just, you know, kind of be able to attack them
• 1:09:10
  vertically in the passing game. Like I said, this is a team that
• 1:09:12
  struggles a lot defending the the pass.
• 1:09:15
  So, you know, I'd like to see some some creativity there,
• 1:09:18
  just, you know, be able to push the ball down field.
• 1:09:20
  I think it's a good match up for Vt.
• 1:09:22
  You know, I know, you know, much has been made about the the end
• 1:09:25
  to last week. It seems like from, you know,
• 1:09:27
  everything we've seen with the program, they are 100% moved on
• 1:09:29
  from, from Miami game, you know, refocused.
• 1:09:32
  And I think they come out pretty strong and, and you know, if
• 1:09:35
  they play like they're they're capable of, they will win this
• 1:09:36
  game. Brian, what about you, man?
• 1:09:42
  I'm gonna say it here. Don't let one play beat you
• 1:09:44
  twice. I noticed.
• 1:09:47
  I know you're looking at based on what Sheldon said, but
• 1:09:49
  looking at everything I've seen, it looks like they've done the
• 1:09:52
  job of kind of putting Miami behind them.
• 1:09:55
  I want to see it on the field because we we can't do that
• 1:09:59
  thing where we let one game and one play beat us 2 times.
• 1:10:03
  So we need to go out there. We have to get back to 500, keep
• 1:10:06
  moving forward in ACC play and see what happens and let it
• 1:10:08
  shake out. But we got to take care of
• 1:10:10
  Stanford first. That's what's in front of you.
• 1:10:12
  Don't worry about what's behind you.
• 1:10:13
  Don't worry about what's ahead of them.
• 1:10:14
  Go ahead and take care of Stanford.
• 1:10:16
  Yep, and and for me it is going to be don't lose what you found
• 1:10:21
  Friday night because what you found Friday night was the team,
• 1:10:26
  not only all of us on this podcast expected everybody over.
• 1:10:30
  It's over here in the chat expected.
• 1:10:33
  That's the team we expected. If that team that plays like
• 1:10:37
  that shows up Saturday, it's going to be 645 and I'm going to
• 1:10:43
  be enjoying dinner. What a nice victory beer.
• 1:10:46
  If that team shows up Saturday, don't lose that because there
• 1:10:51
  are not a lot of teams left on the schedule that can beat that
• 1:10:54
  team that played Friday. And there's probably, I would
• 1:10:58
  say maybe, and maybe I'm being boisterous here.
• 1:11:02
  Maybe I'm being super confident. To me, that's only probably 10
• 1:11:05
  or 12 teams in the country that could beat that team that showed
• 1:11:08
  up Friday. And it would be a game like we
• 1:11:10
  played against Miami. It would be a war.
• 1:11:14
  All righty now we got to get into our predictions and I'm
• 1:11:17
  gonna let Shelton go first. Shelton give me a score
• 1:11:20
  prediction of this game. I'm gonna go Hokies.
• 1:11:25
  I'm gonna go 27 to 17. I think they're gonna come out,
• 1:11:30
  they're gonna cover, they're gonna play well.
• 1:11:32
  I think the the defense will be highly motivated.
• 1:11:35
  They're gonna get to the the young quarterback that's we
• 1:11:38
  presume it to be filling in for for Ashton Daniels, and I think
• 1:11:42
  they're going to make life miserable for him.
• 1:11:43
  I predict at least one sack for APR, if not more.
• 1:11:47
  If not more, Callie, I'm fading the Hokies, baby, I'm fading
• 1:11:56
  them. Put my face up in the locker
• 1:11:59
  room. I'm going to say 3427 Stanford.
• 1:12:05
  Only reason I'm saying it, it's because I got to see.
• 1:12:07
  I got to see it on the field, I got to see it on the field.
• 1:12:10
  We keep losing close games. I got to go by the past.
• 1:12:13
  You got to show me something in the future, Got to pick against
• 1:12:16
  you. Stanford Tally is not on board
• 1:12:19
  until they show him something. I feel like we heard this story
• 1:12:22
  last year and then they started showing him some Brian.
• 1:12:24
  Siegler I'm not fading, I think because I don't think it's going
• 1:12:30
  to be a close game. Being honest with you, I don't
• 1:12:33
  think it's going to be a blowout, but I think we're going
• 1:12:35
  to have a 14 point win there. I think it's going to be 3420
• 1:12:37
  Hokies. I think APR has three sacks.
• 1:12:40
  Show them. Let's do.
• 1:12:43
  It that'd be 10 for the that's 10 for the year 10 fucking 10
• 1:12:48
  might be going after some record chair.
• 1:12:49
  I'm going to throw this up. Chris Lester.
• 1:12:51
  Everybody always out there 3510 Hokies.
• 1:12:55
  I'm 3120 Hokies. I think they continue to bring
• 1:12:58
  that team. What I was going to say,
• 1:13:01
  Speaking of Chris Lester, thank you.
• 1:13:05
  Thank you, Chris. Thank you, Chris for texting me
• 1:13:08
  at 12:00 at night or 1:00 in the morning.
• 1:13:12
  And let me know what you watch on film.
• 1:13:13
  So I have to wake up and watch it too.
• 1:13:16
  It is your rule. It is your fault.
• 1:13:18
  It is your fault that I was up watching the game.
• 1:13:21
  So thank you, Chris. Now, Chris, that's my God, man.
• 1:13:23
  We go over a lot of football together, especially, you know,
• 1:13:27
  hokey football. And Chris is damn near a coach
• 1:13:31
  from from the couch like he's he's going over film and he's
• 1:13:35
  watching he's not watching the ball like some fans watch the
• 1:13:38
  game and watch the ball. Chris is watching everything.
• 1:13:40
  Hey, when you watch it, what look at look, look at this false
• 1:13:43
  step he takes. I'm like, how you?
• 1:13:45
  It's 2:00 in the morning, man. What are you looking at this
• 1:13:48
  for? Fuck it, let me get up and watch
• 1:13:50
  it to do so. It's my God, man.
• 1:13:54
  I love, I love the way he approaches it.
• 1:13:55
  I I in the comment comments he puts in here are always super
• 1:13:59
  insightful too. And I'll tell you another thing
• 1:14:02
  about Chris. I don't know if somebody all
• 1:14:03
  know but that that that dude is tall when when I saw him in
• 1:14:07
  Nashville. I didn't realize he was that big
• 1:14:08
  and tall either until I was in Nashville.
• 1:14:12
  Like on the pictures he ain't fat by no means, but in the
• 1:14:14
  pictures he look kind of skinny. Like now I got a back like
• 1:14:17
  Dwight Howard. I'm like damn.
• 1:14:18
  I mean like 6, like I'm like 6-2 and he's looking down at me.
• 1:14:22
  I'm like, no, I don't like that. I don't like being around people
• 1:14:25
  looking down at me. Dawg, got to sit down.
• 1:14:27
  If we're going to hang out, you got to sit down.
• 1:14:29
  Stop standing up over me. All right, I'm going to give my
• 1:14:33
  prediction now. I should have waited till after
• 1:14:35
  I've talked to because now we know exactly what to do for
• 1:14:38
  Tally. If you want to wake Tally up in
• 1:14:40
  the middle of the night, text him about a football play from
• 1:14:42
  our game. He will wake up.
• 1:14:44
  He will go downstairs. He will turn on the.
• 1:14:46
  TV it's got to be a false step. Where's the false step?
• 1:14:49
  Point out the false step. Special team miscue, several
• 1:14:52
  teams miscues. Give me 3120 Hokies.
• 1:14:55
  I think I'm with Brian on this. This is going to be in my
• 1:14:57
  opinion, I ain't going to say easy game, but cruise control
• 1:15:01
  game. Just do what you do.
• 1:15:04
  They ain't going to be able to stop it.
• 1:15:06
  Do what you on defense. You're going to make them pay a
• 1:15:08
  few times. Got a couple other hokey
• 1:15:11
  predictions here. Got the rock out here saying
• 1:15:14
  3813. They take out their
• 1:15:17
  frustrations. We got oh, look at this RSD man
• 1:15:23
  Say it's close. Oh, we got a lot of them coming.
• 1:15:26
  Oh, look who is staying up late tonight.
• 1:15:28
  Jason. Jason staying up late.
• 1:15:32
  Hey, we, we, we, we about to play a special one for you.
• 1:15:34
  We are as well and Jason Schwartz out here.
• 1:15:39
  Hey. I got.
• 1:15:41
  A les VA baby. All righty.
• 1:15:44
  Well, believe it or not, we watch more than just a hokey
• 1:15:48
  games on the weekends. At least I do.
• 1:15:52
  As mad as I was Saturday, I watched a lot of football on a
• 1:15:56
  on on Friday I watched a lot of football actually I was pissed
• 1:16:00
  off on Saturday. On Friday into Saturday I
• 1:16:02
  literally had a four finger Scotch after the game.
• 1:16:06
  I can go to bed till 1:30 on Friday night and I had to be up
• 1:16:10
  early Saturday. It was not a fun day at all.
• 1:16:13
  But we do watch more than one game.
• 1:16:15
  We look at games every week. Here we have our big Screener
• 1:16:18
  segment where last week the only two people at 500 or better were
• 1:16:24
  myself, the music man, Jason Long.
• 1:16:27
  He we both went three and three, Brian two and four, Tally two
• 1:16:34
  and four, Miranda two and four, and Shelton two and four.
• 1:16:37
  As far as the season records go, Brian and Tally slightly ahead
• 1:16:44
  at a 53 point win clip. I am the 5050 man, Shelton.
• 1:16:49
  You get 40% man. You got, you got, you got to,
• 1:16:51
  you got to make some picks here, man.
• 1:16:53
  Pump those numbers up. I need some regression to the
• 1:16:56
  mean here. There you go, regression through
• 1:16:58
  the mean and here comes the money picks.
• 1:17:00
  Right? Here we go, big screeners.
• 1:17:02
  We start off as we always do, with Brian Siegler.
• 1:17:05
  Brian, where we going this week? Hey, we're going to UNLV baby
• 1:17:10
  Las Vegas. Hey.
• 1:17:14
  Baby Syracuse taking on UNLV, UNLV the favor by 6 here.
• 1:17:19
  I'm going to take Hughes. I've liked what they've done so
• 1:17:22
  far. I like their quarterback.
• 1:17:24
  I think they're going to make just enough plays with with the
• 1:17:28
  flux and everything that UNLV is dealing with.
• 1:17:31
  We'll see if they they miss a beat here at some point,
• 1:17:33
  especially once the competition ramps up a little bit like it is
• 1:17:36
  this week. So give me QS.
• 1:17:39
  Yeah, I'm with you. I think, you know, they beat
• 1:17:42
  Fresno State, usually a pretty good West Coast team.
• 1:17:45
  They they absolutely pummeled them.
• 1:17:47
  But I think last week was the mentality of look at all this
• 1:17:50
  shit that's happened. It's US against the world.
• 1:17:53
  Let's go out there and play. I think they crashed back to
• 1:17:56
  earth. I give me Syracuse, give me the
• 1:17:59
  points. I think Syracuse wins outright
• 1:18:00
  as well. Sally or Shelton Shelton,
• 1:18:05
  Shelton Shelton. Yes, it would help if I was
• 1:18:07
  actually paying attention. Yeah, I'm taking Syracuse too.
• 1:18:11
  Just for record. I'm I'm making these picks
• 1:18:14
  mainly best off vibes because I've struggled so much last two
• 1:18:16
  weeks. So just going with going with
• 1:18:19
  the vibes, giving the cues. Hey, Sheldon, I think, I think
• 1:18:23
  we're, we're, we're pretty much on the same pace here.
• 1:18:25
  So I, I, I had a rough week last week.
• 1:18:27
  I was like, you know what, how am I feeling?
• 1:18:29
  What am I feeling this week? Just just ride with the vibes.
• 1:18:33
  I think that's going to live us live to live to do me better
• 1:18:36
  this week. So we'll see.
• 1:18:39
  Yeah, I'm going to ride the vibes, too.
• 1:18:41
  I'm going to say cues as well. Kind of like Brian said, UNLV
• 1:18:46
  has a lot of stuff going on, so at some point I feel like
• 1:18:49
  they're going to stumble. I think it's going to be this
• 1:18:51
  week. All righty.
• 1:18:54
  And the two back there are wonderful.
• 1:18:57
  Rider Miranda and our music man Jason are saying roll with the
• 1:19:02
  running rebels, roll with Vegas. They liked what they saw last
• 1:19:05
  week after all that craziness, so.
• 1:19:08
  Hey, hey, listen, you'll put y'all pics in here.
• 1:19:10
  I'll definitely throw your name up.
• 1:19:12
  Chris, Chris saying he's going to take the points too.
• 1:19:14
  All right, all right, oh oh, here we go.
• 1:19:17
  This is why it's really picking. Hey, you know what shout out to
• 1:19:22
  SWVA man. I ordered some stuff from them
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  I'm getting some stuff from them man, if y'all have not went to
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  their website to take a look at their products man, they got
• 1:19:30
  some awesome shirts and hats. I'm waiting on a orange hat.
• 1:19:34
  It's the only reason I haven't got a hat, but the the white
• 1:19:37
  hats that they're putting out gas.
• 1:19:40
  I just sweat too much for a white hat.
• 1:19:42
  So I try to stay away from them because I can only have like one
• 1:19:45
  time. But now they're putting some
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  some some really good stuff out and it's big man friendly.
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  Like shoot, they got 3X4X shirts.
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  Y'all need to go hop on their website right now and and take a
• 1:19:57
  look at their products because I just got me some coming my way.
• 1:20:01
  All righty there we go. So definitely look at SWVA.
• 1:20:05
  I am the next man up and let's go to Berkeley where you the you
• 1:20:11
  travels across country, y'all. This is a 10/30 East Coast kick.
• 1:20:17
  10:30 This is ACC after dark, which means I'm going to
• 1:20:22
  probably stay up till 2:00 in the morning.
• 1:20:24
  There you go. Miami versus Cal.
• 1:20:27
  Let's pull it up here. Cal getting 10 points, Miami
• 1:20:30
  laying 10 points. Brian, what are you doing before
• 1:20:33
  I get to make my pick on this one?
• 1:20:35
  Hey, you know what, We're going to have a good time.
• 1:20:38
  We're going to we're going to ride with OTT out there in in
• 1:20:42
  Berkeley and we're going to take Cal.
• 1:20:45
  Yeah, I'm, I'm, I am with you on this.
• 1:20:48
  Cal is getting game day for the first time.
• 1:20:51
  I think now there are only like 2 schools that have never gotten
• 1:20:54
  game day if I'm not right. I know we're one of them, no?
• 1:20:57
  One of them and I feel like there's one more, but I think
• 1:21:01
  Couch is too good of a team. Like if, if y'all know Justin
• 1:21:04
  Wilcox. Justin Wilcox is a good
• 1:21:06
  defensive minded head coach. We sort of laid a little bit of
• 1:21:10
  a game plan of how to kind of get a little funk in Miami.
• 1:21:13
  I think again, a 10/30 start time that is.
• 1:21:17
  Man, it couldn't happen to a better team.
• 1:21:22
  I'll say that. But the ACC can't do that
• 1:21:24
  bullshit. Like the latest start should be
• 1:21:26
  830 when teams go out West. We got lucky.
• 1:21:28
  Ours is at 3:30 in the afternoon.
• 1:21:30
  Body clock's going to be fine. But for them, I think it's I
• 1:21:34
  think they win, but I think 10 is just too much.
• 1:21:37
  Gimme Cal shell Moss. It's a battle of woke versus
• 1:21:42
  coke game day in town. The means will be crazy.
• 1:21:48
  I cannot wait for this match up. I will be conspicuously flying
• 1:21:52
  Twitter the the entire game, but I'm taking I'm taking Cal.
• 1:21:56
  I think they'll be kind of, you know, pumped up with Gambian
• 1:21:58
  town and a tough fight for Miami.
• 1:22:01
  So give me, give me. The Bears tally, yeah, man, I'm
• 1:22:06
  going to go Miami on this game, man.
• 1:22:08
  You know, Ward spent a little bit of time out there on the
• 1:22:12
  West Coast. You know, he was carving people
• 1:22:15
  up on a on a not as good team. So it's kind of going to be a
• 1:22:20
  where he was able to get on the big stage at the beginning.
• 1:22:22
  So I feel like it's going to be kind of a let me show out kind
• 1:22:26
  of game for him. So I'm going to take Miami in
• 1:22:28
  this one. All righty, Miranda rolls with
• 1:22:32
  us on Cal and Jason is riding with Tally.
• 1:22:38
  Tally. I'm sending something to you
• 1:22:39
  because if you ain't seen some of those things created by some
• 1:22:43
  of these Cal accounts with the quote versus coke.
• 1:22:46
  Oh yeah, I did Freaking hilarious.
• 1:22:49
  Hilarious. Hey man, the the.
• 1:22:51
  The Cal Twitter is. Awesome.
• 1:22:55
  You got to you got to give them their love because I mean, I
• 1:22:59
  mean, it's, it's probably like 10 or 12 accounts that like
• 1:23:02
  really is really good stuff out there.
• 1:23:04
  So. I'm I'm going to say something
• 1:23:06
  real quick here, Josh Young talk about not stopping tune.
• 1:23:09
  They aren't stopping, not financial.
• 1:23:11
  Tune is a top 10 running back right now in the country.
• 1:23:16
  So and I don't know, maybe maybe he's really good, but tune's
• 1:23:21
  tune's legit right now. All righty, all good too, huh?
• 1:23:27
  Odd is good too. Oh yeah, he's good.
• 1:23:29
  I don't know if he's Tooting good, but he's good.
• 1:23:31
  He's good Tooting. Good's tough.
• 1:23:34
  Sheldon, where you trying to make some money?
• 1:23:37
  We're going to Louisville, KY. I thought this would be a really
• 1:23:39
  good match up to pretty solid teams.
• 1:23:42
  Got SMU coming in hot, big win last week.
• 1:23:45
  I think though, they're going to be on a little bit of a hangover
• 1:23:47
  and I think Louisville's going to be motivated coming off a
• 1:23:50
  loss to Notre Dame. So I've got Louisville taking
• 1:23:52
  this one. All righty, did you lay the
• 1:23:55
  points? I'm riding right there with with
• 1:23:58
  Shelton on this one. I think Louisville is going to
• 1:24:00
  have a bounce back game in this one.
• 1:24:02
  I think SMU is going to come back to earth a little bit.
• 1:24:05
  I think this could be about a about a 10 point Cardinal win
• 1:24:08
  here. And I'm with y'all on that as
• 1:24:11
  well. Give me Louisville.
• 1:24:13
  The over unders interested in this one is at 56 where you like
• 1:24:18
  first quarter vibes. He's going to tell if it's going
• 1:24:22
  to hit the 56 and over because these two teams do have heavy
• 1:24:25
  offensive minded head coaches. So if you are at 2017 to 21
• 1:24:31
  points, take the second quarter, try to catch the over under,
• 1:24:35
  which at that point in time it'll probably be like 65, take
• 1:24:39
  it. If it's over 70, don't take it.
• 1:24:42
  If it's under 707065, take it. Sorry, Gambling Valley.
• 1:24:48
  Yeah, now I'm taking Louisville in this one as well.
• 1:24:52
  But besides this game, what is what is going on with Florida
• 1:24:56
  State? What's going on with Florida
• 1:24:59
  State, man? 3 letters. 3 letters.
• 1:25:05
  What the ACC? No, they suck balls.
• 1:25:08
  I mean what what is eju? That is their problem.
• 1:25:15
  Literally that is if they would just put in Brock Lynn.
• 1:25:18
  I think they would at worst be like 3 and two.
• 1:25:20
  Right now they look pitiful. I mean, it's looking like Jordan
• 1:25:27
  Travis covered up a whole lot of holes in that offense,
• 1:25:30
  especially with that offensive line.
• 1:25:33
  So I mean, it's really, I think that and what they lost on
• 1:25:37
  defense has been a really bad combo for them.
• 1:25:40
  Yeah, you know what's funny? Florida State analytically has
• 1:25:43
  the best special teams in the country.
• 1:25:47
  That's how. But that's how that's how bad
• 1:25:49
  their offense is that their their special team is so good,
• 1:25:51
  evens a solid and they're 14 like.
• 1:25:55
  That's crazy. Miranda goes Louisville, Jason
• 1:25:58
  goes. We are all laying 7 points
• 1:26:00
  riding with Louisville. Hey, that's, that's the first
• 1:26:02
  one everybody's riding with, with one team across the board
• 1:26:05
  there, so. That's the first one tonight.
• 1:26:08
  That is the first one tonight. You don't want to know.
• 1:26:11
  The White VIX says that right there.
• 1:26:14
  Yeah. They had to kind of do it.
• 1:26:17
  Coral can be very volatile. Yeah and just real quick before
• 1:26:21
  we click the tallies pick, just so y'all know Jason has been
• 1:26:25
  wanting to pick FSU all year so we can play that song.
• 1:26:31
  Yeah, but you ain't getting to play it this year, buddy it.
• 1:26:35
  Might be a long. It might be a long while.
• 1:26:37
  Tally, where are you taking us for Saturday with some gambling,
• 1:26:41
  man. I think we're going and checking
• 1:26:43
  out A&M and Mizzou. Think it's going to be a pretty
• 1:26:49
  competitive game. I would say, though, I mean,
• 1:26:54
  I've watched both teams play in this state.
• 1:26:55
  They both got two good teams, but I think Mizzou is going to
• 1:26:58
  take this game out right. Yeah, I'm riding with Mizzou as
• 1:27:03
  well there Tally. I, I, you know, A&M has been
• 1:27:08
  kind of a conundrum. I think Mizzou has got a little
• 1:27:13
  bit of a wake up call with a couple games here.
• 1:27:15
  I think they would come out focused and I think A&M just not
• 1:27:17
  going to have enough at the end. All right, I, I am fading y'all
• 1:27:22
  to right there because I do believe that Texas A&M was going
• 1:27:28
  to win this game. I've seen as you play a couple
• 1:27:31
  Times Now, they they, I'm not saying they they're not a good
• 1:27:34
  team, but go to the Boston College game.
• 1:27:38
  That was a game go to the Vanderbilt.
• 1:27:41
  They should have lost to Vanderbilt.
• 1:27:42
  There is not even a question. They should have lost to
• 1:27:44
  Vanderbilt. And I think going down to Kyle
• 1:27:47
  Field, I think it's going to be loud.
• 1:27:49
  I think A&M is kind of finding their groove.
• 1:27:51
  Elko we know is a good coach. I'll lay two points.
• 1:27:55
  I'll take the home team. I think it's I think this could
• 1:27:58
  be like a fun game this weekend to watch.
• 1:28:00
  I don't know what time it is on. I'll look it up.
• 1:28:03
  Hopefully not 3:30 because I don't get to really enjoy it,
• 1:28:05
  but I think it could be a super entertaining game on Saturday.
• 1:28:09
  Sheldon. I took Missouri, although in
• 1:28:12
  hindsight I feel like they're kind of due for a loss, so maybe
• 1:28:14
  I shouldn't have done that. But you know what?
• 1:28:15
  We'll stick with it. Vibes.
• 1:28:17
  Vibes Valley, Missouri Miranda, Missouri.
• 1:28:22
  The Music Man is riding with me tonight.
• 1:28:26
  All right. Our wonderful contributing
• 1:28:28
  writer Miranda is taking us down to Columbia where Ole Miss comes
• 1:28:36
  in after a loss, which was a physical football loss to
• 1:28:40
  Kentucky last week. Kentucky can slow down some
• 1:28:43
  offenses, y'all. They made Georgia, Kentucky.
• 1:28:45
  That's that's all the team, man. Yeah, but they gave up thirty to
• 1:28:49
  South Carolina. Make that make sense.
• 1:28:51
  Ole Miss going there laying 9 1/2.
• 1:28:55
  Brian, where you taking on this one?
• 1:28:57
  I'm riding with Ole Miss on this one.
• 1:28:59
  I'm still not a believer in what's going on down there in
• 1:29:03
  Columbia. I don't think that this South
• 1:29:07
  Carolina team is going to be able to match what's going to be
• 1:29:10
  a pissed off Ole Miss team after the way that game went down.
• 1:29:14
  And that's exactly why I am on board with you to lay 9 1/2.
• 1:29:19
  It's the Lane Kiffin get slowed down the next game he going to
• 1:29:22
  put at least 45 up and I do not think South Carolina has that
• 1:29:26
  offense to stay within 10 points.
• 1:29:29
  Sheldon. Well, you guys know me at this
• 1:29:32
  point, one of my biggest philosophies I like taking teams
• 1:29:34
  are coming in pissed off. And you know Ole Miss is pissed
• 1:29:37
  off after what happened last week.
• 1:29:38
  So I'm taking the Rebels big time.
• 1:29:43
  Yeah, I mean I mean y'all have already said it.
• 1:29:45
  You're going to have a pissed off old piss.
• 1:29:48
  So that's what I'm taking. Yeah, forget them.
• 1:29:52
  I don't like them either. There we go.
• 1:29:56
  Oh. My God is picking Ole Miss as
• 1:29:58
  well and Jason. Fade in the pod.
• 1:30:02
  Fade. Oh my goodness.
• 1:30:10
  All righty. Well, let's finally, we finally
• 1:30:12
  get here as we do it through one of the big screeners every week.
• 1:30:15
  And our wonderful music man, Jason Long, who has joined us so
• 1:30:20
  lovingly in the chat tonight, is going up to Minnesota for the
• 1:30:24
  Trojans and the Gophers. Wait till you hear this.
• 1:30:46
  Welcome back to guitar licks and gambling picks.
• 1:30:48
  I'm Jason Long. Don't know if you notice I'm a
• 1:30:51
  little bit of a loose streak. I've lost two in a row and no
• 1:30:55
  favorites. So this week I'm.
• 1:30:57
  Taking a dog, the USC. They traveling back to the
• 1:31:03
  Midwest two weeks ago. I lost money when they went to
• 1:31:06
  Michigan. I don't plan on making the same
• 1:31:09
  mistake. Twice.
• 1:31:11
  This time they're going to Minnesota.
• 1:31:15
  Now the Golden Gophers. They've been a little bit up.
• 1:31:17
  And down this season. But they're getting 10 1/2
• 1:31:21
  points at home. That feels like a little bit too
• 1:31:23
  much for me, so I'm going Minnesota against.
• 1:31:26
  US. Nothing caution.
• 1:31:34
  Sorrow. Nothing caution.
• 1:31:48
  Hold on. One times it's happening.
• 1:31:54
  Hold on to see. Him out in the rain.
• 1:32:02
  Herbal rain. Purple rain in the rain.
• 1:32:36
  So let's get back on the winning track.
• 1:32:37
  Let's go Minnesota. Let's go Hokies.
• 1:32:39
  See you next week. There we go.
• 1:32:45
  Buddy, I feel like it's 2003 again.
• 1:32:48
  We are in his apartment drinking all sorts of concoctions.
• 1:32:51
  Hey, are are we going to get a cease and desist on this one?
• 1:32:54
  I don't know. We might.
• 1:32:55
  That'd be cool. So, so the the story goes is
• 1:32:58
  Jason did a cover. I think it's a little red
• 1:33:01
  Corvette, right? Little red Corvette.
• 1:33:03
  Another wonderful Prince song. And by the way, if you're
• 1:33:06
  wondering why he did Prince, for y'all who are uneducated, Prince
• 1:33:09
  is from Minneapolis, MN, the home of the Golden Gophers.
• 1:33:12
  There we go. But he did this on a little
• 1:33:15
  localized CDI. Don't know how many he sold.
• 1:33:19
  I had one, Brian had one. We all were his boys.
• 1:33:21
  We, we gave the money. We, we, he got a cease of desist
• 1:33:25
  letter from Prince's attorneys basically saying don't be that
• 1:33:29
  shit anymore. It is framed.
• 1:33:31
  I don't know where it is. I'm surprised he didn't bring it
• 1:33:33
  up, but that goes to the story. Never forget that, Never forget
• 1:33:40
  that. In this one, I mean, you know,
• 1:33:44
  Minnesota 10 1/2. I, I got to take them points,
• 1:33:49
  man. Let me get Minnesota here.
• 1:33:52
  I think it's going to be a, you know, 7-8 point win for the
• 1:33:56
  Trojans, but I think Minnesota's going to keep an interest in
• 1:33:58
  there at the end. I am with you on this.
• 1:34:01
  Give me Minnesota. Minnesota got screwed if y'all
• 1:34:04
  didn't see the end of that Michigan game.
• 1:34:06
  They recovered that punt. They recovered that onside kick.
• 1:34:09
  They were not all sides and they had the momentum going and 10
• 1:34:14
  1/2 points, I know USC can be good, but 10 1/2 too much delay
• 1:34:20
  them coming back east. You know why y'all go ahead
• 1:34:24
  about it? I wonder what the weather's up
• 1:34:26
  there going to be on Saturday. So who you got next, Sheldon?
• 1:34:32
  Sheldon. What you got?
• 1:34:33
  Minnesota continuing with my pissed off last week, they did.
• 1:34:36
  They did get screwed against Michigan.
• 1:34:38
  They've lost two straight. I think they're going to bounce
• 1:34:39
  back, at least to the extent that they will cover.
• 1:34:44
  Tally, What do you say, man? All right, give me USC, man.
• 1:34:48
  I'm going to take USC in this one just because I knew y'all
• 1:34:53
  was picking Minnesota and I want to be difficult.
• 1:34:58
  It's kind of. I got to score some points
• 1:35:00
  somewhere. Yeah, it's kind of like a fourth
• 1:35:02
  and three man. I mean, I'm the little brother.
• 1:35:04
  I'm on, I'm on. I ain't going to line up and
• 1:35:06
  run. I'm on do a fake field goal.
• 1:35:08
  So USCUSCUSC random. And obviously, our music man
• 1:35:16
  Jason Long, is also riding. With the Gophers.
• 1:35:20
  Now before I go into this I am wondering how USC is going to
• 1:35:23
  handle the weather. They are playing this game at
• 1:35:27
  night and it's going to be like 4850° with a little 15 mile an
• 1:35:31
  hour breeze. Southern California boys in the
• 1:35:34
  Midwest on a October night. It could be interesting.
• 1:35:40
  I mean, that's it would be like they don't, they don't see 50 in
• 1:35:42
  December out there. So there you go, There you go.
• 1:35:47
  There's all. The rundown Who did good?
• 1:35:50
  Who did bad? Who you riding with on this
• 1:35:52
  weekend? I like, I like my picks.
• 1:35:56
  You know, Missouri's the only one that I'm really kind of, I
• 1:35:59
  could have went either way. On everything else I feel pretty
• 1:36:02
  good about. The only one I like question is
• 1:36:07
  I'm tempted. I was tempted to go Miami with
• 1:36:10
  the pissed off mindset of they barely escaped, let's go prove a
• 1:36:15
  point. That's the only one I'm kind of
• 1:36:18
  question. The other ones I feel good
• 1:36:19
  about. All right, gentlemen, anything
• 1:36:23
  else popping up to the last hour?
• 1:36:26
  And hey, look at that, an hour and 30 minutes.
• 1:36:28
  We ain't done that in a. Few weeks.
• 1:36:31
  Hey, you know what? We, we, we got it tight, now we
• 1:36:35
  got it tight. Got it tight.
• 1:36:37
  We, we all of our, all of our outbursts are gone.
• 1:36:40
  We're we're in full mid season mode now.
• 1:36:42
  Like we're out, we're out of the, we're out of the funk.
• 1:36:45
  We actually had a game where we didn't have to talk about what
• 1:36:47
  went bad for 30 minutes. No, we did.
• 1:36:51
  Oh, jinx it. touché, Oh, jinx it.
• 1:36:56
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  there for listening and as always, let's go, OK?
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