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NDE Pilot Saw Hell Then Met Jesus in Heaven · Gil I Am

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Speaker 1: I think I looked pretty good for a dead guy.
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Speaker 2: You look great, And I think our people tuning in
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Speaker 2: right now are saying, Okay, what do you mean a
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Speaker 2: dead guy? What happened? So you did start taking this medication,
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Speaker 2: which was a try. It was actually like a clinical
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Speaker 2: trial type medication. Because I have researched your story many times,
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Speaker 2: it's so astounding now. They didn't realize the dangers of
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Speaker 2: that medication. And one day, because it got rid of
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Speaker 2: your pain, you took more than you were supposed to do.
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Speaker 2: I did tell us a little bit about what happened
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Speaker 2: that day when you took more. You were sitting in
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Speaker 2: a truck on some land that you owned. Yes, tell
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Speaker 2: us about what happened.
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Speaker 3: And it was late in the afternoon or I and
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Speaker 3: I didn't go on the main roads. I went on
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Speaker 3: the back roads because I was on medication, and got
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Speaker 3: up to this field and drove into it. It was
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Speaker 3: quite a large section of land, and I perked the
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Speaker 3: truck facing the setting sun. And I didn't plan it
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Speaker 3: that way. It just happened. And I'm sitting there trying
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Speaker 3: to get rid of the pain, to get out of
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Speaker 3: a walk around the slurge property and I'm sitting there
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Speaker 3: just waiting to gather up the strength to do that.
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Speaker 3: And then I realized, hey, I've got some more medication here,
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Speaker 3: so I'll just take one more the slippery slope of
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Speaker 3: prescription medication, and I took more than one. Let's just
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Speaker 3: say that it wasn't to create my death. I was
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Speaker 3: just trying.
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Speaker 1: To perform a function. And so.
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Speaker 3: I sat there waiting for that warm relief that I
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Speaker 3: had become used to, and then the most incredible thing happened.
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Speaker 3: Instead of this relief, my feet felt they were like
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Speaker 3: they were on fire, intense heat so much so I
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Speaker 3: looked underneath the dash at the truck and to see
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Speaker 3: what was causing this. And then it started to rapidly
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Speaker 3: come up my legs, and then my fingertips started to burn,
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Speaker 3: and it was like my body was catching on fire,
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Speaker 3: and it was all moving toward my chest. And then
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Speaker 3: all the possible scenarios that doctors had told me about
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Speaker 3: that my lungs would seize and you know, there'd be
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Speaker 3: minutes before you would die, and only minutes. And so
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Speaker 3: I realized that something catastrophic had happened. I had taken
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Speaker 3: My body had finally reacted against the medication I was taking,
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Speaker 3: and my lungs were seizing, and it was the strangest sensation.
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Speaker 1: I mean, I was terrified.
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Speaker 3: I talk of it logically now, and I kept raising
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Speaker 3: my head to expand my lungs and it was like
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Speaker 3: I was in a pool of water and couldn't at oxygen.
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Speaker 3: And in that moment, in that moment of realization that
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Speaker 3: I'm dying, I.
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Speaker 1: Remember this.
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Speaker 3: So clearly, In that moment, from somewhere deep inside of
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Speaker 3: me that I had not been for a long long time,
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Speaker 3: there was this feeling. It wasn't. It wasn't that I
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Speaker 3: was scared. I'd been in a number of close calls
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Speaker 3: as a pilot, never flinched. But I had this overwhelming
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Speaker 3: desire to thank the Creator for the wonderful life I
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Speaker 3: had had. And here I am, in the last few minutes,
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Speaker 3: last seconds of my life. Tried to put together something
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Speaker 3: that would and all I could get out was I
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Speaker 3: raised my hand in the setting sun, and death was
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Speaker 3: approaching and my hand was trembling, and I looked up
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Speaker 3: at that setting sun and I believed, there's six words
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Speaker 3: that allow me to be here with you today. The
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Speaker 3: first three were as I raised my hand to the
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Speaker 3: setting sun. It was God, forgive me, forgive me. And
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Speaker 3: I fell forward, hit my head in the steering wheel,
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Speaker 3: and I'm gone.
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Speaker 2: What did you see next?
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Speaker 3: I'm not sure just how long I was out at
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Speaker 3: that time, but I remember sitting back up and the
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Speaker 3: first realization was I have no pain. The pain is gone.
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Speaker 3: I slide out of the truck. I walk about fifteen
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Speaker 3: feet away. It's a beautiful spring evening. I could smell
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Speaker 3: the grass and I feel like I'm twenty years old again.
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Speaker 3: I could move my arms and legs without debilitating pain,
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Speaker 3: and I'm just overwhelmed, you know. And I'm just looking
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Speaker 3: out and enjoying how it felt to be healthy. And
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Speaker 3: then I turn and look back at the truck and
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Speaker 3: I'm filled with rage because some is sitting in my truck.
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Speaker 3: Not only that, he's sleeping on the steering wheel. So
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Speaker 3: I turn to go over and give him a good
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Speaker 3: old Canadian welcome. And have you ever had a dream
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Speaker 3: where you're trying to walk and you can't. You know,
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Speaker 3: when you're a kid, you have that happened to you,
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Speaker 3: And that's what happened to me. I couldn't advance for
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Speaker 3: a few inches at a time. But finally I got
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Speaker 3: close enough to look at the truck and the person
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Speaker 3: in it. There are no words for me to describe
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Speaker 3: to you or to our audience.
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Speaker 1: The feeling.
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Speaker 3: That raced over me, because as I'm looking at the
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Speaker 3: body in the truck and getting closer, I realize that
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Speaker 3: is no stranger. That body laying over the steering wheel
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Speaker 3: is me. And my head has turned toward the window,
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Speaker 3: and I'm gushing because my lungs have hemorrhaged. I'm gushing blood.
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Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, But.
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Speaker 3: I'm Diamond Jim right and right away. I'm formulating a
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Speaker 3: way to fix this. But there's no fix for this.
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Speaker 2: No.
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Speaker 3: But what I tried to do was if I could
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Speaker 3: just get over there, get in the truck somehow, get
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Speaker 3: back of my body, everything will be okay.
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Speaker 4: Wow, not this time, No, not this time.
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Speaker 2: So then what happened?
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Speaker 3: So as I'm standing, as I'm trying to figure out
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Speaker 3: and getting a little closer to the truck, suddenly I
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Speaker 3: begin to rise. Now, being a pilot, I'm a good
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Speaker 3: judge of alitude, and I'm clearly leaving the ground without
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Speaker 3: an aircraft. Not a wise thing to do. But I'm rising,
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Speaker 3: and I'd like to tell you I was, you know,
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Speaker 3: ver even all that sort of thing.
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Speaker 1: I'm terrified.
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Speaker 3: But and I get up to about twelve hundred feet
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Speaker 3: and I could look down in the back window of
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Speaker 3: the truck and see my toolbox and see my body
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Speaker 3: sloped over the wheel.
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Speaker 1: And then I for.
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Speaker 3: Some reason looked up and this beautiful golden circle appeared
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Speaker 3: the sky, like a sixty foot wide gold wedding ring
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Speaker 3: fell back inwards and it showed what I felt was
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Speaker 3: an immense distance and beautiful clouds on the inside golden.
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Speaker 3: And then my body on its own went into this
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Speaker 3: forty five degree position. And here I am starting to
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Speaker 3: fly without an airplane. Finally I'm saving on fuel, and
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Speaker 3: I make light of it now, but I was terrified.
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Speaker 3: And then it was as though I had advanced the
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Speaker 3: throttles on one of the heavy jets that I would
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Speaker 3: fly across the Atlantic. And I went slipping in over
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Speaker 3: that ring, and the instant we got inside, I got inside.
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Speaker 3: The speed was incredible. But here's something strange. Typically, if
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Speaker 3: you're going fast, you know, you can feel the wind.
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Speaker 3: You could hear the rush of the wind, not a sound,
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Speaker 3: not a sound. So I didn't have to worry about
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Speaker 3: my hair.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I like the humor you bring to this very
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Speaker 2: serious story.
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Speaker 3: I'm the happiest guy you're ever going to meet, because
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Speaker 3: I'll tell you something, Having seen what waits for us
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Speaker 3: is incredibly liberating. Yeah it is, and I'm so grateful
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Speaker 3: to be back. But anyway, I do you want me
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Speaker 3: to Oh?
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Speaker 2: I do?
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Speaker 4: Yes?
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Speaker 2: Tell us what you saw next?
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Speaker 1: Keep me under control because I get excited.
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Speaker 2: It's pretty exciting to listen to. So you're there, You're
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Speaker 2: now in the heavenly realm. What do you see next? Well,
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Speaker 2: you only see light.
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Speaker 3: I'm in the tunnel light and I'm speeding really fast.
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Speaker 3: I think it was probably MAK one. I'm walk two.
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Speaker 3: And it's difficult to describe someone what that's like. And
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Speaker 3: I was speaking in Baltimore one night and I was
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Speaker 3: talking about how I was going so fast the stars
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Speaker 3: were streaming by me and and that's not a very
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Speaker 3: good description. And there was a young guy in about
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Speaker 3: eighteen years old in the front row and he said,
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Speaker 3: sounds like the opening of Star Trek to me. That's
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Speaker 3: a good Captain Kirk, And that's a perfect analogy. When
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Speaker 3: they go to warp Warp Drive and this, you know,
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Speaker 3: It's just a zap of lightning, and that's what it
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Speaker 3: felt like. That's what it felt like.
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Speaker 2: So what did you see next?
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Speaker 3: So then I realized I thought it was endless, but
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Speaker 3: I realized I was decelerating. We come to a stop
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Speaker 3: in this golden tunnel and my body comes upright and
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Speaker 3: there's I still don't know whether to call it a
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Speaker 3: door or a portal, but it's covered and missed. I
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Speaker 3: know I have to go forward and through it because
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Speaker 3: I look over my shoulder and the tunnels closing behind me.
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Speaker 3: And so I stepped through, and as you would stepping
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Speaker 3: into a room that you're not familiar with, and it's
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Speaker 3: covered in and misst I put my foot in the
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Speaker 3: fuel for the ground, and there was something solid in
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Speaker 3: that mist. So I brought my other leg in and
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Speaker 3: I wait for a few seconds, and the mist begins
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Speaker 3: to clear, and I look down and I cannot believe
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Speaker 3: what I'm seeing. I cannot believe what I'm seeing. I'm
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Speaker 3: standing on the most beautiful green grass you've ever seen.
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Speaker 3: Every blade had its own light. Now I have to
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Speaker 3: be careful with that because it sounds a little lost vegacy,
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Speaker 3: but that's what it looked like, and it's gorgeous. And
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Speaker 3: if I've moved my feet, light ripples out from underneath
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Speaker 3: my feet. And I'm just overwhelmed by the beauty of it,
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Speaker 3: the sheer strangeness of it. And I now know where
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Speaker 3: the saying comes from. The grass is always greener on
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Speaker 3: the other side they're talking about having.
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Speaker 1: So the mist.
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Speaker 3: Rises from the ground and then I look up and
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Speaker 3: look out and I cannot believe the vista that is
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Speaker 3: before me. Keep in mind, my bit legal knowledge was
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Speaker 3: next to nothing. But I now know, of course that
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Speaker 3: there is no sun, nor moon, nor stars, because as
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Speaker 3: a pilot, I was trying to see what the source
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Speaker 3: of light was. If I could see the sun, i
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Speaker 3: could baby orient myself in my northeast northwest, you know,
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Speaker 3: And which was stupid because I'm not even in the
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Speaker 3: same universe. Yeah, but I'm trying to work my way
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Speaker 3: through this and I'm just overwhelmed by it. And as
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Speaker 3: I'm looking the strangest thing, this beautiful vista of flowers for.
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Speaker 1: Which there are no.
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Speaker 3: Designation of colors. Colors, we have no name for a
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Speaker 3: place where sound has color and color has sound. Think
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Speaker 3: about that, Yeah, and flowers. And I've been in fifty
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Speaker 3: two countries, I've never seen flowers that were as beautiful
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Speaker 3: as what I saw at Heaven. And this feeling of peace,
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Speaker 3: and even the rocks had this glow coming from it.
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Speaker 3: All of it is the glow of God, the light
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Speaker 3: of God.
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Speaker 2: And of course there's such great light there. But you
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Speaker 2: did have a moment where you.
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Speaker 1: Saw darkness, oh absolutely, and.
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Speaker 2: You cried out to God, tell us what happened there.
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Speaker 3: So I'm standing there looking at this beautiful vista. But
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Speaker 3: here's the strangest thing. As I moved my vision from
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Speaker 3: right to left, that beautiful green grass went to brown
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Speaker 3: to scorched to black and dropped off in a crevasse.
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Speaker 3: And I'm so taken by this strangeness of the beauty here,
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Speaker 3: and almost immediately and a feeling of death and decay
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Speaker 3: from that darkness what some people call a miasma, a
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Speaker 3: word we don't often hear.
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Speaker 1: That it affected everything.
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Speaker 3: And as I'm looking, I've always been an inquisitive person.
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Speaker 3: I think that's what made me a good pilot. But
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Speaker 3: I walk over toward the edge of this thing and
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Speaker 3: it drops off and it's a canyon, and I look
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Speaker 3: and I can see what I thought was a campfire,
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Speaker 3: like you'd see a fire in a distant valley at night.
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Speaker 3: But then I realized it wasn't a fire. It was red,
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Speaker 3: and I realized the closer I got it was actually
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Speaker 3: a huge door being opened. And what confirmed that was
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Speaker 3: it started to screech, as though it was on hinges
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Speaker 3: that had not been opened in a long time. And
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Speaker 3: the doors were huge, and I heard them screeching and
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Speaker 3: resisting being opened, and then, to my astonishment, something moving
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Speaker 3: like it was crippled, and then I realized it was huge.
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Speaker 3: It had the figure of a man, but it was
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Speaker 3: on fire. His body was on fire. Horrendous head on
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Speaker 3: this huge body. And then I'm just trying to process
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Speaker 3: all this when suddenly the creature noticed me up on
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Speaker 3: the rim and the look when it looked at me,
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Speaker 3: the look of hatred in its eyes, not just for me,
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Speaker 3: but for all of mankind. This was a demon or
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Speaker 3: Satan himself. I know not which, but it was terrifying.
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Speaker 2: And did you cry out at all to God?
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Speaker 3: Well, I'd love to stand here and say I'm real
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Speaker 3: macho about this. I was looking for the exit, but
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Speaker 3: this thing came so rapidly up and it was surrounded
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Speaker 3: by cloud and darkness and a smell of decay. I
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Speaker 3: call it the smell of despair because God will never
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Speaker 3: be in that place. And I am trying to process
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Speaker 3: this when I realized it was coming up towards me.
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Speaker 3: And as it came up, surrounded by this, it's the
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Speaker 3: strangest thing. I started to hear screams, screaming, and the
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Speaker 3: screaming was from the creature's body, but not of the creature.
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Speaker 3: It was as though it had swallowed souls and they
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Speaker 3: were screaming for release from the body of this thing.
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Speaker 3: And you know, some people say to me, oh, you know,
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Speaker 3: you shouldn't tell people about that. It's going to scare them.
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Speaker 3: We need to be scared.
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Speaker 1: You know.
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Speaker 3: We've become a society of Oh, how bad can hell be?
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Speaker 1: You know, how bad can it be?
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Speaker 2: No?
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Speaker 3: Wi fi, let me tell you something. The old time
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Speaker 3: of the preachers, the priests, they when they talked to
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Speaker 3: you about hell, they meant what they said. But Satan
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Speaker 3: has evolved with the times, and the way he approaches
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Speaker 3: us to sin now is very subtle. Is through our phones.
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Speaker 3: It's permeating. But what keeps me going is the thing
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Speaker 3: that I said to you a short while ago. Was
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Speaker 3: that I know now that God is far greater than
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Speaker 3: the evil that is here.
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Speaker 2: And indeed, moments later in that experience you're having, angels appeared. Yes,
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Speaker 2: how that happened, and what began to happen as God
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Speaker 2: began to move.
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Speaker 3: So I'm hearing the screaming. And now what really terrified
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Speaker 3: me was I heard this thing calling my name. This
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Speaker 3: creature knew me, It knew me, It knows all of us,
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Speaker 3: and I can't. I mean, I wasn't that man a guy.
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Speaker 3: I never heard anyone. I didn't rob anyone. I gave
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Speaker 3: to charity. If I got to reach seed, that's not charity,
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Speaker 3: that's business. And here I was living a life of
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Speaker 3: so called perfection, and it didn't have any of the
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Speaker 3: important things in it. And so the creature comes up
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Speaker 3: and the screaming is continuing from its body, and then
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Speaker 3: it begins to speak to me. And if a snake
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Speaker 3: could speak, that's what it sounded like. So you had
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Speaker 3: this horrendous body on fire, eyes penetrating, jaws open wide.
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Speaker 3: The strangest thing, the thing that I remember most is
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Speaker 3: the dropping of the saliva from its mouth under the ground.
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Speaker 3: Remember this thing is huge, and this is what waits.
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Speaker 3: This is what all of us who try to convince
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Speaker 3: people that hell is real, just as heaven is real,
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Speaker 3: and we cannot ignore that anymore.
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Speaker 4: We just can't.
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Speaker 3: We ignore it at our peril, and so it lurches
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Speaker 3: up out of the pit. And to keep my sanity,
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Speaker 3: I turned my back to it, and I raised my
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Speaker 3: hands to the sky. And remember I said there are
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Speaker 3: six words, when the first three were God forgive me.
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Speaker 3: At that point with this thing at my back, and
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Speaker 3: I actually felt a talon come down my back as
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Speaker 3: it's speaking to me, and it's saying.
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Speaker 1: Jim, Jim, come to us. We have been waiting for you.
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Speaker 1: This is your time with us.
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Speaker 3: Come to us, Jem. As though it knew me. It used,
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Speaker 3: you know, a real familiar tone. And I've got my
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Speaker 3: hands and with no expectation. Why would God reach out
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Speaker 3: to me who never respected him or shown any love
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Speaker 3: for him in my entire life. But I had nothing left. Yeah, diamond,
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Speaker 3: Jim was gone. And I raised my hands and I said, God,
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Speaker 3: help me, help me. At that instant, three points of
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Speaker 3: light from different places came all to one central point,
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Speaker 3: and I could see in the bluish white light angels, Angels,
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Speaker 3: What did they look like? Oh, my god, they're wonderful.
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Speaker 3: I could spend a whole day telling you about them.
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Speaker 3: But very tall. Yeah, there were three of them. But
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Speaker 3: let me tell you first what happened. And they're standing
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Speaker 3: in front of me, maybe from here to the cameraman,
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Speaker 3: and all of a sudden, and this thing is behind me,
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Speaker 3: calling my name. And then a bolt of light came
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Speaker 3: from the guardians and went over my shoulder and hit
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Speaker 3: the creature. And when it did, it shrieked. It shrieked
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Speaker 3: in pain and scrambled back down a hole like a
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Speaker 3: rat running for cover. Darkness and evil cannot exist in
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Speaker 3: the light of God. It cannot. And if the light
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Speaker 3: of God is within you, you are protected. Amen, you are covered.
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Speaker 1: You are covered.
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Speaker 2: Amen. What a word? What a word for someone watching
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Speaker 2: right now? And I know with the angels, there were
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Speaker 2: three different kinds of angels that you identified. Of those three,
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Speaker 2: there was.
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Speaker 3: A guard was about ten foot tall, and he was
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Speaker 3: ascribed and by the way, he coincidentally was my guardian
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Speaker 3: since birth. Now that poor angel had pulled an awful
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Speaker 3: tour of duty.
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Speaker 1: Because he had a look of relief on his face.
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Speaker 3: This big smile. At last, I got him in the heaven.
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Speaker 3: And I don't mean to make light of it, but
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Speaker 3: I could see, I could and that this was a
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Speaker 3: guardian that had been with me since my birth. And
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Speaker 3: then there was another one about thirteen feet tall, but
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Speaker 3: coming behind that was one about fifteen feet tone. Now
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Speaker 3: you think of this fifteen foot tall being in front
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Speaker 3: of you, and the amazing thing is their eyes are violent.
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Speaker 3: Angel's eyes are violet, and they're huge, because in a
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Speaker 3: fifteen foot body, you've got these huge violet eyes. But
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Speaker 3: here's the amazing thing. Here on earth, when someone stares
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Speaker 3: at you like this, it's usually not good news. But
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Speaker 3: when a guardian stares at you with those violet eyes,
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Speaker 3: it's you are loved by God. We are God's creation,
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Speaker 3: We are here to help you. You are safe, We
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Speaker 3: love you. And angels never blink. They never blink.
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Speaker 2: Did they speak to you specifically?
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Speaker 1: Yes?
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Speaker 2: How did that happen?
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Speaker 3: So the one that was I found out was my guardian.
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Speaker 3: He came right up to me, and he's still tall,
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Speaker 3: he's ten feet tall, and he comes up to my
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Speaker 3: right shoulder. And I have some wonderful pictures that we
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Speaker 3: put together of this, and he comes up to me
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Speaker 3: and he puts his arm around my shoulder so I
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Speaker 3: can see his hand here, and I'm looking up and
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Speaker 3: there's this gentle smile, and then I hear the voice
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Speaker 3: of an angel for the first time, and the voice said, James,
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Speaker 3: fear not, for we are your constant friends. So now
22:21
Speaker 3: if you get an email from me, or you get
22:23
Speaker 3: a text, or you get a letter from me. I
22:25
Speaker 3: always thought it, Lly, I see you're a constant friend, Jim.
22:29
Speaker 2: The angels also showed you some things. You know, you
22:33
Speaker 2: had many questions for them. You detail that in your
22:35
Speaker 2: book and many of your interviews. But they also showed
22:38
Speaker 2: you six beams of light coming up from the earth.
22:40
Speaker 2: Because I think we have updated our viewer and what
22:42
Speaker 2: was happening with you? So we had first responders who
22:45
Speaker 2: found your body. Yes, they took you to the hospital. Yes,
22:48
Speaker 2: you were brain dead, so they pronounced you clinically dead. Yes,
22:51
Speaker 2: for eleven hours. And yet during that time, this is
22:55
Speaker 2: when you're visiting heaven. Yes, so in heaven the angels
22:59
Speaker 2: show you the light beams. What's going on there? Tell
23:01
Speaker 2: us a bit more.
23:03
Speaker 3: And that was stunning too. And I didn't know this
23:08
Speaker 3: of course till I got back. But they're walking so anyway,
23:13
Speaker 3: they bow to me. And I have to tell you this,
23:17
Speaker 3: three guardians bowing to me. And this wasn't just a
23:20
Speaker 3: polite Victorian bow of welcome. This was a deep and
23:24
Speaker 3: reverential bow. And I felt very uncomfortable with it. And
23:28
Speaker 3: I said, why do you bow to me? I am
23:32
Speaker 3: but mankind? Why do you bow to me?
23:41
Speaker 4: The answer was so beautiful, the guardian.
23:46
Speaker 3: Said, James, we bow to mankind because when we look
23:51
Speaker 3: at you, we see the light of our master in you.
24:01
Speaker 4: And we all need to be reminded.
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Speaker 3: That in all of us is the light of God.
24:13
Speaker 3: But God gave us free will, something he didn't give
24:17
Speaker 3: any other creation. Yeah, and God gave us free will,
24:22
Speaker 3: and that free will is God will never force you
24:27
Speaker 3: to love him. He's the creator. Why doesn't he just
24:29
Speaker 3: make us love him? Because God knows that the only
24:33
Speaker 3: thing that you love is something you can never take.
24:37
Speaker 1: It has to be given.
24:40
Speaker 3: And my favorite picture is the will of Jesus standing
24:45
Speaker 3: in front of the wooden door and knocking at the
24:47
Speaker 3: door of your heart. And if you look carefully, there's
24:53
Speaker 3: no handle on that door. It can only be opened
24:58
Speaker 3: by you. To allow God, imagine the supreme Being, to
25:06
Speaker 3: be that humble that he allows us to turn from him,
25:10
Speaker 3: and all he asked us for is to love him
25:13
Speaker 3: and try to do the things that he that.
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Speaker 4: Jesus tried to teach us before we killed him.
25:22
Speaker 3: I'm sorry, but it's as though it just happened.
25:29
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, It's an incredibly moving experience to listen to,
25:34
Speaker 2: so I can only imagine how much it moves your
25:37
Speaker 2: heart even to recall it and share it with us.
25:41
Speaker 2: You know, you speak about love, and there were people
25:44
Speaker 2: loving you so deeply from Earth one of the things
25:46
Speaker 2: the angels showed you.
25:47
Speaker 1: Thank you for keeping me on track. You asked me
25:52
Speaker 1: too the viewership, because I get carried away.
25:56
Speaker 2: You don't get it. It's wonderful, it's wonderful.
25:59
Speaker 1: But yeah, I found out later.
26:03
Speaker 3: When I got back and Loraene and I were trying
26:05
Speaker 3: to piece the story together, and she said when the
26:08
Speaker 3: arc she reported me missing, and they searched for me
26:12
Speaker 3: all night. Finally, around about dawn, they triangulated my cell
26:17
Speaker 3: phone successfully and located the truck and I was in it,
26:22
Speaker 3: and it had been a cold night and rigor mortis
26:25
Speaker 3: had set in and I was stiff as a board
26:29
Speaker 3: and in the seating position and dead with my eyes open.
26:34
Speaker 3: And so they immediately had an ambulance take me to
26:39
Speaker 3: the hospital in Frederton, Brunswick, where I was triaged. And
26:47
Speaker 3: the RCMP went to my home and to get my
26:51
Speaker 3: wife and take her to the hospital. And when he
26:53
Speaker 3: got there he found the kitchen with Lorraine's sisters and
26:58
Speaker 3: our friends. There were six of them and they were.
27:04
Speaker 1: Praying. And the prayer that they prayed. Lorraine told me.
27:08
Speaker 3: Was that if it be the will of God, send
27:12
Speaker 3: Jim back. And here I am standing in heaven and
27:16
Speaker 3: I'm asking the angels, what are those streaks I see
27:20
Speaker 3: in the sky as a pilot to me, they're contrails,
27:23
Speaker 3: condensation trails. You know, when you're in the higher atmosphere
27:27
Speaker 3: the weather, the air is cold, and when the fuel
27:30
Speaker 3: is being burnt, the water that's left in the fuel
27:33
Speaker 3: condenses into ice crystals and then as they float down
27:37
Speaker 3: they get in the warmer area and they disappear.
27:39
Speaker 1: So I'm looking.
27:40
Speaker 3: I thought they were contrails, you know, I know Eric
27:43
Speaker 3: Canada goes everywhere, but I didn't realize they flew to heaven.
27:45
Speaker 3: And I want a job, so yeah, it was. It
27:52
Speaker 3: was amazing. And the amazing thing, Laura was there were
27:57
Speaker 3: six streaks in the sky.
28:00
Speaker 1: There were six.
28:01
Speaker 2: People praying, and the angels explain that.
28:03
Speaker 3: And I asked the angels, you know, what are these
28:08
Speaker 3: streaks in the sky, because to me it didn't make sense.
28:11
Speaker 3: And they said, James, those are the prayers of your
28:14
Speaker 3: family for your soul, even now rising up before God.
28:22
Speaker 2: Wow. Wow. And it shows you the power of prayer.
28:27
Speaker 3: It does when we pray for our life. It does,
28:29
Speaker 3: and we need to remember that. And you know, people
28:33
Speaker 3: say to me, well, I pray and I pray and
28:35
Speaker 3: nothing happens. Maybe it's not what you think. What you
28:38
Speaker 3: think is best now may not be what God knows
28:40
Speaker 3: it's not good for you later.
28:42
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, amen. Yeah, Jim, you then began to see
28:48
Speaker 2: the Holy City Heaven itself. Tell us a bit about
28:51
Speaker 2: what that looked to me.
28:52
Speaker 1: Yeah.
28:52
Speaker 3: Then the Guardian said to me, James, touch my cloak,
28:57
Speaker 3: and he said hold it, and I reached and took
29:00
Speaker 3: his arm, and suddenly were in the sky of heaven.
29:05
Speaker 3: And I looked down and I thought I was looking
29:07
Speaker 3: at a huge reflecting pool, but suddenly it shimmered and
29:12
Speaker 3: opened and I realized, I'm looking down on nothing other
29:15
Speaker 3: than the Holy Kingdom, God's home. And yes, the streets
29:20
Speaker 3: are paved with gold, stunningly beautiful, and so many green spaces,
29:26
Speaker 3: and I'm looking at hundreds of thousands of people, no glasses,
29:33
Speaker 3: no canes, no nothing that would ever indicate sadness or pain.
29:43
Speaker 1: So many.
29:44
Speaker 3: And I could actually tell there were some people that
29:47
Speaker 3: were walking along and they had their arm around a
29:50
Speaker 3: person in the center. Clearly that person had just died
29:53
Speaker 3: and they had come to and now they're walking them
29:56
Speaker 3: as we would take them to Automa and say, here's
29:58
Speaker 3: the Parliament building, this is God's hold.
30:02
Speaker 2: Oh wow.
30:03
Speaker 3: So the family is being shown around, and the happiness
30:07
Speaker 3: on their faces was truly wonderful.
30:10
Speaker 2: And Jim, I know that you've written about seven journals
30:14
Speaker 2: with details about Heaven, if not more, And in your
30:17
Speaker 2: book Heaven Unexpected Journey, you detail a lot of what
30:21
Speaker 2: you're sharing with us now and you go more in depth,
30:23
Speaker 2: and I know our viewers are going to want to
30:25
Speaker 2: get that book to read more about what you saw
30:28
Speaker 2: in heaven. But of course, the burning question on so
30:31
Speaker 2: many people's hearts right now would be did you encounter
30:35
Speaker 2: Jesus yes, how did that happen? And then what happened?
30:39
Speaker 3: So I'm standing there looking at the contrails, and then
30:43
Speaker 3: the guardian says to me, James, look, and here's something interesting.
30:48
Speaker 3: The God of the universe, with all he must have
30:50
Speaker 3: to contend with. When you first get there, they put
30:55
Speaker 3: things in front of you that you loved as a child.
30:59
Speaker 3: And because when the angel hugged me, this is kind
31:03
Speaker 3: of funny. When the Angel hugged me, I smelled tapioca.
31:09
Speaker 1: Tapioca.
31:10
Speaker 3: Now, I promise I'm not here to start the Church
31:12
Speaker 3: of the Holy Tapioca.
31:13
Speaker 1: I am not.
31:15
Speaker 3: But here's something that fascinates me. That God knew that
31:18
Speaker 3: when I was a little boy, and I'd be walking
31:21
Speaker 3: home through a snowstorm in Newfoundland on the fourth of
31:23
Speaker 3: July and going to my mother, my grandmother's home, and
31:27
Speaker 3: there'd be a big bowl of warm tapioca waiting for me.
31:31
Speaker 4: Isn't that something?
31:33
Speaker 3: The God of the universe, and he knows everything about
31:35
Speaker 3: all of us, and he loves us for what we are,
31:39
Speaker 3: He loves us for what we fail at.
31:42
Speaker 1: He loves us for everything. And so.
31:47
Speaker 3: Then they show me this magnificent horse, and they summon
31:52
Speaker 3: it from the field that comes trotting up and as
31:54
Speaker 3: it glided over the grass of the paddock, the light
31:59
Speaker 3: came up up from the horse's hoofs. And I never
32:02
Speaker 3: read the Bible before. I didn't know that when Jesus
32:04
Speaker 3: comes back, you'll be riding a white horse.
32:08
Speaker 4: Yeah, is not something.
32:10
Speaker 3: And I saw this and I came up and put
32:12
Speaker 3: this beautiful silken head over the over the gate, and I,
32:19
Speaker 3: you know, people say to me, well, why would you
32:21
Speaker 3: need a gate in heaven? You know, well, I don't know.
32:23
Speaker 3: They It was what I remembered. And so they show
32:26
Speaker 3: you things that triggered the for you. It might be
32:29
Speaker 3: the smell of your grandmother's kitchen. It might be, you know,
32:32
Speaker 3: the smell of your dad's car when you went for
32:35
Speaker 3: a Sunday drive, something that meant a lot to you
32:37
Speaker 3: as a child, because once you once you get there,
32:40
Speaker 3: you had to remember you're God's child. Now you always were,
32:44
Speaker 3: but now you're definitely his. You've come home.
32:48
Speaker 2: And I think so many of us are excited about
32:51
Speaker 2: that prospect. Jim tell us about the moment you met Jesus.
32:55
Speaker 3: Okay, so I'm I'm continuing to walk and all the
33:00
Speaker 3: while they're telling me things about heaven and how this
33:03
Speaker 3: works and that works, and I'm absorbing it all. And
33:08
Speaker 3: we came to a slight rise and not very large.
33:13
Speaker 3: Probably went back to this scenery back here, and it
33:16
Speaker 3: was but it was a gentle slope and I realized
33:20
Speaker 3: I hadn't seen the tall angel for a while, and
33:22
Speaker 3: I look and up on the top of the slope
33:26
Speaker 3: was the guard the tall Guardian, but he was kneeling
33:30
Speaker 3: and he had a book opened and facing him. Leaning
33:33
Speaker 3: over this was another figure reading the book. I couldn't
33:38
Speaker 3: see the face on that figure, but it was. It
33:41
Speaker 3: was different from the angels. First of all, there was
33:44
Speaker 3: this golden glow that came off this this magnificent feature.
33:50
Speaker 3: And you know how you drive down a road in
33:51
Speaker 3: the summertime and the pavement has got this shimmer above it.
33:57
Speaker 3: There was that covering his face because he was in
33:59
Speaker 3: profile to me, and who's this? And as I'm watching,
34:06
Speaker 3: this beautiful golden light flowed off him and flowed down
34:12
Speaker 3: toward me, and it behaved like slow moving golden water.
34:17
Speaker 3: And I noticed that when it went through the flowers
34:21
Speaker 3: that had already bloomed and were in perfect condition, they
34:25
Speaker 3: bloomed even more magnificent and that came down and went
34:30
Speaker 3: around my feet, and when it did, I was filled
34:33
Speaker 3: with this incredible knowledge that I was looking at none
34:36
Speaker 3: other than Jesus Christ, the Son of God. And simultaneously
34:41
Speaker 3: that figure turned toward me. The shimmer vanished, and I'm
34:44
Speaker 3: looking into the eyes of Jesus Christ, the Son of God,
34:49
Speaker 3: not some dusty old legend, but the living Christ, the
34:54
Speaker 3: Son of God who gave his life for us. And
35:02
Speaker 3: I just fell to my knees and I couldn't take
35:07
Speaker 3: my eyes off him. And he had the most gentle
35:10
Speaker 3: smile and these eyes of blue and green and gold,
35:15
Speaker 3: that it's that that just I felt like I had
35:22
Speaker 3: known him all my life, and then in fact, I
35:24
Speaker 3: knew him before my life. And I'm just overwhelmed, and
35:30
Speaker 3: I'm on my knees still, and then I staggered to
35:34
Speaker 3: my feet and I tried to move toward him, and
35:38
Speaker 3: he smiled at me, and then I got a little closer,
35:40
Speaker 3: and then he did something that really I didn't expect.
35:44
Speaker 3: Jesus raised his right hand, still smiling, but he raised
35:47
Speaker 3: his right hand, and there was no mistaking this, no
35:52
Speaker 3: matter what language, and it was clearly stop come, no closer,
35:59
Speaker 3: but I'm done, and Jim, I tried, so all habits
36:03
Speaker 3: die heard, and I tried, and he raised his hand
36:07
Speaker 3: like this, still smiling, but you know, and so I stopped.
36:13
Speaker 3: And then then he smiled at me.
36:18
Speaker 2: Oh my god, did he say anything to you?
36:20
Speaker 3: Oh yes, yes, And I'm going to tell you it's
36:23
Speaker 3: not long, but it changed me.
36:29
Speaker 1: Forever.
36:31
Speaker 3: And he had this I really got this feeling that
36:34
Speaker 3: this is at Jesus that has a real sense of humor.
36:37
Speaker 3: Well he made me, so he must have still humor.
36:40
Speaker 3: But you know, I felt like I'd known him all
36:44
Speaker 3: my lifely he was family, and I'm just overwhelmed. And
36:50
Speaker 3: then I realized he's about to speak to me, but
36:53
Speaker 3: I'm still trying to get close. And for the third time,
36:56
Speaker 3: he puts his hand up, and when he did, this
36:58
Speaker 3: time his sleeve all back and here, and I could
37:02
Speaker 3: see the glow of his body through the hole in
37:05
Speaker 3: his wrist, the remains of the crucifixion. And when I
37:09
Speaker 3: saw that, my happiness and elation just collapsed, because I
37:14
Speaker 3: realized that I was part of the mutilation that he
37:19
Speaker 3: suffered as mankind. And then I realized he was going
37:26
Speaker 3: to speak to me, and this is what Jesus Christ
37:31
Speaker 3: wants me to tell you, Laura and all your viewers.
37:37
Speaker 3: So with his hand raised like this, he said to me, James,
37:45
Speaker 3: my son, this is not yet your time. Go back
37:54
Speaker 3: and tell your brothers and sisters of the wonders.
38:00
Speaker 4: Showed you.
38:03
Speaker 3: And what flew through my mind was the sound of
38:08
Speaker 3: his voice and the sincerity of his eyes. But then
38:13
Speaker 3: it struck me I wasn't being allowed to stay. And
38:18
Speaker 3: I began to cry, to plead to beg, please, Jesus.
38:23
Speaker 3: I've wandered all over the earth all my life. I've
38:26
Speaker 3: looked for something, and now I've found it. Please please,
38:29
Speaker 3: I beg you. Don't send me back, don't I beg you?
38:33
Speaker 3: And then I said something that I will regret for
38:36
Speaker 3: the rest of my life. I said, please Jesus, don't
38:41
Speaker 3: send me back. I won't be any trouble. Can you
38:46
Speaker 3: imagine telling the Son of God? And he got this
38:49
Speaker 3: little smile on his face. I wasn't threatening him, I
38:54
Speaker 3: was just trying to convince someone. But it was just
38:59
Speaker 3: a moment that he really smiled, and I knelt down
39:07
Speaker 3: and started to plead with him again, and suddenly two
39:12
Speaker 3: guardians are beside me. And they lift me up like
39:14
Speaker 3: a feather and turned me around. And as they're carrying
39:20
Speaker 3: me away to the tunnel back, I wrenched away from them.
39:28
Speaker 3: I don't know how managed to put my head back
39:31
Speaker 3: to plead one more time, one more time. But when
39:35
Speaker 3: I look back, Jesus had gone. But standing exactly in
39:40
Speaker 3: the place that Jesus had stood was the warrior Angel,
39:45
Speaker 3: and he had drawn his sword and with his other
39:49
Speaker 3: hand he was pointing to the path.
39:53
Speaker 2: To go back, for you to go back, and Jim,
39:56
Speaker 2: you came back to your body in the hospital after
39:59
Speaker 2: a hours, Yes, lying there clinically dead, doctor stating you're dead.
40:04
Speaker 2: Your nurse wife knew you were dead, but praying for you,
40:08
Speaker 2: interceding determining whether they should essentially pull the plug on
40:13
Speaker 2: the rest of your body because you were brain dead.
40:15
Speaker 2: But you come back into your body. What happens in
40:18
Speaker 2: those moments and what do you say to your wife
40:20
Speaker 2: the first time you see her?
40:26
Speaker 3: Going back wasn't at all pretty? And what I mean
40:31
Speaker 3: by that is the tunnel was dark. It wasn't light,
40:34
Speaker 3: it was cold, it was wet. I began to feel
40:37
Speaker 3: pain as I transitioned from an immortal being to a mortal,
40:44
Speaker 3: and I began to hear voices. I found out later
40:53
Speaker 3: when we had a chance to piece everything together. They
40:56
Speaker 3: were busy in the ICU that night. I was in
41:01
Speaker 3: a room off to one side, and Lorraine was out
41:06
Speaker 3: in the quiet room with her sisters, and I.
41:13
Speaker 1: I'm just sorry.
41:16
Speaker 3: I've a heard time talking about this, and I'm just
41:21
Speaker 3: overwhelmed by the sadness that i have to leave. But
41:30
Speaker 3: all of a sudden my eyes opened, and they tell me,
41:39
Speaker 3: because I don't recall that, I think suddenly, from looking
41:46
Speaker 3: at the beauty of heaven to the stark cold of
41:51
Speaker 3: a hospital room, I let a mighty Yellah. It scared
41:58
Speaker 3: the daylight, said of one of the nurses, because I
42:01
Speaker 3: was officially dead. And so the nurses ran and got
42:07
Speaker 3: my wife from the room and she runs in and
42:09
Speaker 3: she can't believe because it's been so long. The doctors
42:13
Speaker 3: had said, Lorraine, if he did survive, you know, he'd
42:17
Speaker 3: be nothing, maybe.
42:18
Speaker 1: But a vegetable.
42:19
Speaker 3: That was my greatest fear, Laura coming back as a cabbage.
42:23
Speaker 3: I hate cabbage, but.
42:28
Speaker 1: The Lorraine.
42:30
Speaker 3: And of course I'm intubated and I've got the mask
42:33
Speaker 3: on and there's every wire everywhere you can imagine. And
42:38
Speaker 3: I'm trying to orient myself, but very rapidly my heart
42:42
Speaker 3: came back. I had had full renal failure. Everything started
42:45
Speaker 3: to work perfectly. I went from purple to pink in
42:49
Speaker 3: a matter of minutes. And and and then I finally
42:54
Speaker 3: they take the tube out, and there's Lorraine's pretty face
42:59
Speaker 3: in front of me, up on the bed, and she's
43:01
Speaker 3: kissing my face. And I said, of all the things
43:07
Speaker 3: I could have said to Lorraine, I said, because Lorain
43:10
Speaker 3: and I met on horseback. That's how we first met
43:14
Speaker 3: on a cold winter's day. And I said, loraae loraaen.
43:22
Speaker 3: I saw Jesus, and Jesus has horses, and I'm back.
43:28
Speaker 2: You're back. Oh, and we're so thankful you're back. You know, Jim,
43:33
Speaker 2: you came out of that state. Really, you were not
43:37
Speaker 2: a vegetative person. We see this. You did not have
43:40
Speaker 2: side effects from dying and coming back. Nothing what they
43:43
Speaker 2: said would happen if you sort of came back alive.
43:45
Speaker 2: You were not in a vegetative state at all. Your
43:48
Speaker 2: disease that you still have markers of in your body
43:51
Speaker 2: actually doesn't cause any pain anymore. So that's just such healing. Yeah,
43:55
Speaker 2: You've had an incredible and miraculous encounter in heaven and
43:58
Speaker 2: a miraculous healing. You know, Jim, for those who are
44:02
Speaker 2: watching right now, you know, one of the things that
44:03
Speaker 2: you could do, because you've been a successful, wealthy business man.
44:07
Speaker 2: You know, you could just be retired right now. You
44:09
Speaker 2: could be taking it easy, doing whatever you'd like to do.
44:12
Speaker 2: But you know that the thing Jesus said to you
44:14
Speaker 2: to do, go and tell your brothers and sisters of
44:17
Speaker 2: the wonders you have seen, is a mission he gave you.
44:20
Speaker 2: So far, our viewers watching right now, who are probably
44:23
Speaker 2: sitting up on edge or they're listening wondering, you know,
44:26
Speaker 2: what should I be doing right now? Jim? What would
44:29
Speaker 2: you say to them? What is your message after experiencing
44:32
Speaker 2: dying and going to heaven and coming back.
44:38
Speaker 3: Believe in the goodness of God that you have a
44:41
Speaker 3: friend who is the greatest friend you've ever had and
44:45
Speaker 3: you don't even know it. And do all the kindness
44:50
Speaker 3: that you can for people, and it doesn't have to
44:53
Speaker 3: be something huge, or it's just kindness, helping a senior
44:59
Speaker 3: working at a food kitchen. All the things that Jesus
45:03
Speaker 3: did when he was on this earth, simple things, and
45:07
Speaker 3: keep in mind what they showed me, that all the
45:12
Speaker 3: goodness and love that happens every day as we care
45:16
Speaker 3: for each other is as this, and Satan and all
45:20
Speaker 3: the chaos we see on TV is as this. And
45:23
Speaker 3: I'm not making up some fairy tale. You know, you
45:27
Speaker 3: can always convince yourself after ten minutes watching the news
45:30
Speaker 3: the earth was going to end by Tuesday if you
45:33
Speaker 3: listen to that, and it's not.
45:36
Speaker 1: It's not.
45:37
Speaker 3: The end will come. I don't know it. I don't
45:40
Speaker 3: think anyone knows it. I don't think the angels know it,
45:43
Speaker 3: only God. But I do believe that if you can
45:50
Speaker 3: remember this one thing that I think will help you
45:54
Speaker 3: in your life. Remember when I talked about how the
45:56
Speaker 3: angels bowed to me because they saw the light of
46:00
Speaker 3: God in me. The light of God is in all
46:04
Speaker 3: of these wonderful people here, including you. Yeah, And it's
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Speaker 3: right here at the base of your throat. And I
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Speaker 3: have the ability to see that. Yeah.
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Speaker 1: And it took me a while to get used to it.
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Speaker 1: I thought I was losing it.
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Speaker 3: I see the light of God and people, and sadly,
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Speaker 3: when I was walking through the airport coming here, you know,
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Speaker 3: I would see many people with the light of God
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Speaker 3: in them, sadly some with no light at all. But
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Speaker 3: I have noticed that when I speak, as I did
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Speaker 3: last night to the church that my friends took me to,
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Speaker 3: I could see that light pulse in them and grow
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Speaker 3: stronger and grow stronger. And if that light of God
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Speaker 3: is within you.
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Speaker 1: You are his.
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Speaker 3: And I'll tell you something else. People will begin to
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Speaker 3: notice there's something different about you. You're kinder, your gentler.
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Speaker 3: You are the person God knows you can be.