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3 Guys Before The Game - Ross Hodge Arrives - New Era Begins (Episode 629) · 3 Guys Before The Game

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  Speaker 1: Showtime in the Big City. Hi, everybody, welcome in. It's
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  Speaker 1: time for the six and twenty ninth episode of Three
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  Speaker 1: Guys Before the Game. Ross Hodge is in town on campus.
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  Speaker 1: He has done that introductory press conference and everything that
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  Speaker 1: goes with it. In this episode, we will break it
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  Speaker 1: down analytically, step by step, slowly by peace. It's all
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  Speaker 1: coming up.
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  Speaker 1: All right, let's jump in. It is Thursday afternoon, our
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  Speaker 1: record date, which means that the Ross Hodge press conference
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  Speaker 1: has been completed. He made his formal appearance for the
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  Speaker 1: very first time as West Virginia's head coach this morning
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  Speaker 1: over at the Pushcar Center, and all three of the
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  Speaker 1: three guys were there.
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  Speaker 4: Right, that doesn't happen a lot, All in the same room.
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  Speaker 1: A lot of security reasons.
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  Speaker 4: Chain of succession in place for that one.
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  Speaker 1: That was something if something.
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  Speaker 5: Usually one stays behind, yes in case it's a terrible disaster.
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  Speaker 1: But Hoppy was there. Hoppy was there, and he uh
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  Speaker 1: I didn't know that he was going to ask a question,
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  Speaker 1: but he did. And uh what what did we used
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  Speaker 1: to say? Uh? Here comes a heater here because a heater.
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  Speaker 1: So happy Hoppy get through, just through a heater through
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  Speaker 1: a heater.
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  Speaker 2: Up.
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  Speaker 3: You did go.
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  Speaker 4: You did go like total reporter voice, like you were
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  Speaker 4: back at the city council meeting here in Morgantown. You
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  Speaker 4: did put on here and they were trying to hide
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  Speaker 4: some dollars and you were uncovering it, like right away,
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  Speaker 4: right back into it.
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  Speaker 1: Here we go. You did put on your reporter voice. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: it was a fair question, was a fair semi retired guy.
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  Speaker 1: It's good to see you could still get back there.
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  Speaker 4: And it was good to coach Hodge lined up, took
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  Speaker 4: the fastball. So I'm gonna tell you what I'm gonna
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  Speaker 4: do with the fastball, Gonna line it right back up
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  Speaker 4: the middle. But it was a fair question, Thank you,
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  Speaker 4: thank you.
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  Speaker 5: And it was like I didn't and what happens when
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  Speaker 5: I'm at said events. I do think like I have
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  Speaker 5: things that occurred to me, and I think, Okay, i
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  Speaker 5: was sitting in the price area, and I'm kind of
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  Speaker 5: a member of this area.
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  Speaker 3: Had on with a big tag.
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  Speaker 5: That's a press go ahead, ran out, ran out to
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  Speaker 5: the phone booth.
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  Speaker 1: Called it in, called it Jimmy Olsen, it's.
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  Speaker 2: Just in stopped them.
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  Speaker 1: Well type of presses.
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  Speaker 5: Tony, you were the MC of the event, and you said, okay,
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  Speaker 5: we'll take questions, and somebody I wasn't gonna look be
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  Speaker 5: like first, and somebody asked a question and then he said,
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  Speaker 5: you know, looked around other questions and.
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  Speaker 1: There was a pause.
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  Speaker 2: What I noticed it was you No, there was no
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  Speaker 2: there was a pause and.
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  Speaker 4: Nobody asked anything. Yes, coach Hunter bats lead off now
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  Speaker 4: the first one.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I was surprised, Like I looked around and like
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  Speaker 1: and then like you raise your head. I went, I
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  Speaker 1: did do a double. I went, like, Hobby's gonna ask
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  Speaker 1: a question. Here comes a heater.
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  Speaker 5: Well what I asked. What I asked was what everybody
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  Speaker 5: had on their mind?
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  Speaker 2: Okay, fair, what is it?
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  Speaker 4: Tell everybody what they what you a.
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  Speaker 5: The question was let me paraphrase is that and Rin
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  Speaker 5: Baker set it up.
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  Speaker 1: Excuse me, the athletic you talked to him before the
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  Speaker 1: press conference, No, no, no no.
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  Speaker 5: When Wren made his com twice, he referred to putting.
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  Speaker 2: Down roots twice roots.
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  Speaker 5: He said he thought he had someone who wanted to
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  Speaker 5: entrench themselves in West Virginia to put down roots. Clear,
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  Speaker 5: he's clear in his desire to put down roots. He's
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  Speaker 5: one of us.
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  Speaker 2: Rin said that specifically. And we know this why we
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  Speaker 2: know why West Virginia had had to hire a new
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  Speaker 2: head coach.
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  Speaker 5: And I know, Brad, we've talked about this, and I
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  Speaker 5: agree with you that those kinds of things are to
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  Speaker 5: some to be out of your control. And you you
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  Speaker 5: build the contract with the buyout and all that kind
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  Speaker 5: of thing. But still there is there is a desire
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  Speaker 5: for what could be at least a comment or reasonable
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  Speaker 5: assurance that that you would want to put down roots.
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  Speaker 5: And his answer I think was was very good where
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  Speaker 5: he said, uh, the coach said, this is why I ask,
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  Speaker 5: what assurances can you provide beyond the contract that you'll
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  Speaker 5: you'll be here after one year? And he said, you know,
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  Speaker 5: this is a blessing, This is an opportunity. I don't
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  Speaker 5: take it lightly. He said, I'm so grateful that God
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  Speaker 5: has put me in this place. It was not an
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  Speaker 5: easy move. He was candid about that. He said the
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  Speaker 5: word tears shed not an easy move. We talked a
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  Speaker 5: lot as a family, and he said, and this was
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  Speaker 5: the money this was the money line. I'm interested in
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  Speaker 5: being in a place that we can call home, that
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  Speaker 5: we can call home. So I would not expect him
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  Speaker 5: to say, don't worry, I'll be here forever. But I
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  Speaker 5: think he said the kinds of things indicating that they're
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  Speaker 5: looking to put down routes and have a place you
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  Speaker 5: call home.
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  Speaker 3: Sure.
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  Speaker 1: And I think you could also tell that he was
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  Speaker 1: very happy to bring his wife back toward family. The
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  Speaker 1: wife is from the Baltimore Ish area, kind of Annapolis
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  Speaker 1: Ish area, and he said they have family in Ohia
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  Speaker 1: and in Pennsylvania, and so they've been down in Texas
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  Speaker 1: and so that's also an opportunity that they want to
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  Speaker 1: do this. Yeah. Yeah, did he win the press conference.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, yes he did. Look he is. I thought what
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  Speaker 2: came through most was I don't think he's.
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  Speaker 5: A big wave your arms excitement guy, but he strikes me.
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  Speaker 5: First impression as sincere and serious and focused and prepared.
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  Speaker 1: No waste are you describing him him or you?
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  Speaker 4: Right?
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  Speaker 1: Brad here he said serious, prepared. I mean a lot
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  Speaker 1: of those qualities are your qualities?
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  Speaker 2: Well, I don't know about that, but I mean.
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  Speaker 4: You could also tell the press conference, yes, yeah, I
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  Speaker 4: thought he was very good.
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  Speaker 3: It was very good.
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  Speaker 4: I thought his his vision and program philosophy was one
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  Speaker 4: exactly what we talked about about. He mentioned multiple times
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  Speaker 4: what we've said on this show about building defense in
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  Speaker 4: this league. You got to start defensively and then you
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  Speaker 4: build it from there. He Renfords Houston a number of times,
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  Speaker 4: team that's won this league two years in a row.
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  Speaker 4: I thought it's very clear that he is clear on
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  Speaker 4: how he wants to run the program, how he wants
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  Speaker 4: to look, how he wants to implement the x's and o's,
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  Speaker 4: and what he wants from a player acquisition standpoint. I
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  Speaker 4: thought he spoke of that very clearly and eloquently on
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  Speaker 4: exactly what he's looking for there.
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  Speaker 1: I thought it was going to be difficult to win
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  Speaker 1: the press conference just because of the jagged emotions that
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  Speaker 1: Mountaineer fans are dealing with right now. But I do
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  Speaker 1: think that he did. And I think the story about
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  Speaker 1: his background and his mom and her work ethic, I
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  Speaker 1: think will resonate for a long time, and for those
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  Speaker 1: who didn't see the press are yet. In essence, mom
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  Speaker 1: held three jobs. Bus driver early in the morning, dropped
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  Speaker 1: the kiddo's off and then it became a teacher's aide
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  Speaker 1: at the high school, and then would go to work
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  Speaker 1: at J. C. Penny at nighttime. So she had three jobs.
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  Speaker 1: And he said that that is the foundation of what
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  Speaker 1: I'm about in regard to blue collar toughness and work ethic.
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  Speaker 1: And I think that speaks a ton you know what.
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  Speaker 4: I also felt today as we were watching the press
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  Speaker 4: conference in that team room over at the Facilities building,
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  Speaker 4: what was jam packed, people standing on both sides and
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  Speaker 4: in the front, and there were no seats. It just
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  Speaker 4: felt and this is the process, right, this is the
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  Speaker 4: life cycle that we went through before with the grieving
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  Speaker 4: process and then how you come out on the other end.
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  Speaker 4: This was the birth, Yes, this was the birth and
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  Speaker 4: the celebration like, okay, we're back now we can move
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  Speaker 4: along a little bit from the heartbreak of what the
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  Speaker 4: last couple of weeks was with the no tournament in
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  Speaker 4: your coach LEAs and just that difficult period and now
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  Speaker 4: there could be hope restored. And that's what I felt today, like,
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  Speaker 4: all right, there's a dude that gets it. He's doing
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  Speaker 4: a great job at the press conference. He knows as
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  Speaker 4: exce and o's we just watched his team. They've had success.
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  Speaker 4: And this was kind of the rebirth process beginning today.
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  Speaker 4: And now staff will get in placed and players will
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  Speaker 4: come along and we'll start to learn more about this team.
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  Speaker 4: But there could be healing today and excitement and hope
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  Speaker 4: that comes with a new coach being named. That's what
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  Speaker 4: I walked out of that building with today.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, exactly, and that and that's that's how this process goes.
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  Speaker 5: That's why it is a it's a healthy process because
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  Speaker 5: you're no longer talking about the coach just left. You
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  Speaker 5: no longer talking about how's the search going, who's not in?
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  Speaker 5: Because you're talking about there will be news now, Okay,
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  Speaker 5: you got the guy.
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  Speaker 2: Here's what he said. Uh, what players are you getting?
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  Speaker 2: Who's so?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah?
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  Speaker 2: It it propels forward from this point on.
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  Speaker 3: Rebirth underway.
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  Speaker 2: Let me one other thing.
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  Speaker 1: Is this, have you even started obvious observation that.
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  Speaker 2: Was all obvious.
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  Speaker 5: Frankly, Okay, this is well, this is the most obvious.
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  Speaker 5: You can team me up because it is the most
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  Speaker 5: obvious observation. Because I'm thinking about other people who've coached here,
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  Speaker 5: who were wonderful human beings, who were very sincere and
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  Speaker 5: down to earth and won the press conference, who then
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  Speaker 5: got fired because they didn't win enough.
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  Speaker 2: So what are we saying? Gotta win, win, gotta win?
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  Speaker 2: So now, what.
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  Speaker 5: Is a reasonable expectation for what this program can do annually?
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  Speaker 5: What is a I'm asking both of you, each of you,
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  Speaker 5: what is a reasonable expectation.
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  Speaker 1: At a minimum once you get the thing cooking?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, whatever, whatever, whatever.
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  Speaker 1: Sixteen team league. Okay, you're in the you're in the
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  Speaker 1: top eight. Okay, you're in the top eight, and you
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  Speaker 1: are an NCAA tournament team.
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  Speaker 2: Every year three out of four, four, five, two out
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  Speaker 2: of three.
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  Speaker 1: Well, here, let me answer your question.
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  Speaker 4: Let me answer I'll just all answer yes on that
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  Speaker 4: on the NCAA ternment. That's what you want to be.
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  Speaker 4: A perennial NCAA tournament.
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  Speaker 1: You want to be. It never has happened in the
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  Speaker 1: history of this school that you are every single year, not.
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  Speaker 4: Every single year, but it's been it's been a good run.
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  Speaker 1: Yo.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's been a good run of way more years
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  Speaker 4: than not. I have to get the percentage on that.
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  Speaker 4: But that should be your expectation.
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  Speaker 1: Should it should be your expectation. Realistically, if you're eight
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  Speaker 1: and a half out of ten years, that might be
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  Speaker 1: more realistic. But you want to go every year that
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  Speaker 1: you're a tempting you.
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  Speaker 5: You want to I'm just asking what do you think
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  Speaker 5: would meet reasonable fan? Well, reasonable fan and okay, okay.
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  Speaker 4: Two different things. Okay, I think a reasonable expectations. You
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  Speaker 4: go into to eight and a half nine out of
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  Speaker 4: ten years saying this is an NCAA tournament team, knowing
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  Speaker 4: there's things that come up. You're going to sustain injuries,
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  Speaker 4: You're going to just odd things happen, right, balld unbounce
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  Speaker 4: your way some years and it gets off track. You
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  Speaker 4: don't have the right mix. You thought you have the
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  Speaker 4: right mix, You have a couple guys that blow the
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  Speaker 4: chemistry up. It doesn't get there. But I think that's
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  Speaker 4: a reasonable expectation. Eight and a half, nine, ten years,
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  Speaker 4: you're playing for an NCAA tournament. You do that, you're
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  Speaker 4: in the upper half of this league. Which then leads
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  Speaker 4: you to every couple of years you're going to put together.
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  Speaker 4: The hope would be when you hit it right and
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  Speaker 4: you have the right chemistry with really good players, you're
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  Speaker 4: a Texas Tech and you make a run at the
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  Speaker 4: conference title and then you get in the NCAA tournament
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  Speaker 4: and you come a whisker from a final four, that
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  Speaker 4: might be that's a high end. It's really hard to
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  Speaker 4: get to a final four, but that's your expectation. Here's
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  Speaker 4: I think agreed, here's a couple on hold on one. Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: I will back that up by saying what I've been
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  Speaker 4: saying on here for months, if not years. That's what
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  Speaker 4: That's what the last four coaches have done right right
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  Speaker 4: right from Gail at the end, we saw that, into
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  Speaker 4: John Bline, into Hugs for that long run, into Darren
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  Speaker 4: in his one year again should have been an NCAA tournament.
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  Speaker 3: That's been the expectation.
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  Speaker 4: You're coming down the stretch in February as an NCAA
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  Speaker 4: tournament type team.
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  Speaker 5: What did you all make of this? Which I thought
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  Speaker 5: was insightful as well. I was taking notes and really
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  Speaker 5: trying to pick out little bits and pieces.
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  Speaker 2: Is that when Wren.
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  Speaker 5: Was talking about talking with other coaches who know Hodge,
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  Speaker 5: and he was saying without it that each one of
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  Speaker 5: those coaches said he's ready. He's ready, which suggests two things.
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  Speaker 5: One is that good coaches who know him well believe
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  Speaker 5: he is ready for the job. And second of all,
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  Speaker 5: that it's a step up, that yeah, he's ready for
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  Speaker 5: the next step, which is which is a big step.
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  Speaker 1: Sure, sure, yeah, that's how this thing goes, right. And
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  Speaker 1: so he started it from as low as you could
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  Speaker 1: start it as an assistant at jc JC head coach
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  Speaker 1: multiple stops as an assistant, then became a head coach
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  Speaker 1: the last two seasons at North Texas obviously, and so
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  Speaker 1: the next frontier for those guys that are in mid
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  Speaker 1: majors is the big boy power for conference job. And
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  Speaker 1: I think that's what he was saying. Now, you know,
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  Speaker 1: Dusty May is a great example of you know, was
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  Speaker 1: Dusty May ready at Florida Atlantic or did he catch
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  Speaker 1: lightning in a bottle? And everyone said like no, that
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  Speaker 1: dude can flat out coach. Well, he goes to Michigan
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  Speaker 1: this year and in his first season they have a
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  Speaker 1: really nice year. So in Dusty was one of those
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  Speaker 1: guys that Wren talked to they know, right, they know.
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  Speaker 1: And the thing I took away from him not only
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  Speaker 1: in his presser, but just when we were doing other
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  Speaker 1: things later interviews, back behind the scenes, when we were
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  Speaker 1: wasting time to go on to the next thing, is
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  Speaker 1: like my perception is like unflap not to say unflappable,
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  Speaker 1: but like none of this is big for him. Like
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  Speaker 1: I just saw I saw the gray haired airplane pilot
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  Speaker 1: who just like turbulence. He just kind of goes like, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: gotta remember, man, there's nothing harder than coaching at junior college.
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  Speaker 1: Like you talk about baggage and you talk about stuff
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  Speaker 1: that happens, resources resources, like it's it can't get harder
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  Speaker 1: than it does down there. So I think when they
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  Speaker 1: get to these jobs, they don't go in awe and
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  Speaker 1: go like, oh it's too big. They go like, are
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  Speaker 1: you kidding me? I get that, and I get that,
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  Speaker 1: and I get that.
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  Speaker 4: I'm in I think that's exactly right. I think that
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  Speaker 4: we may or fans may look at this difference say
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  Speaker 4: oh my gosh, he hasn't been in a power fork
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  Speaker 4: and he step up those guys say yeah, you freak kid,
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  Speaker 4: what's my budget?
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  Speaker 1: Friend?
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  Speaker 4: Iol that's what you're giving me. What's this practice for.
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  Speaker 4: That's my office, that's the practice facility. And not in
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  Speaker 4: a fall down on my god away, but like, I
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  Speaker 4: have these resources now at my disposal. Let's go, let's
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  Speaker 4: roll the balls.
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  Speaker 3: Out and play.
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  Speaker 4: I've been grinding it in the middle of Texas, trying
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  Speaker 4: to get three JC kids into school and on campus
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  Speaker 4: in time for a game in a week. This is like,
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  Speaker 4: all right, you're gonna give me that much, let's go.
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  Speaker 5: You guys have talked about the fact that he has
• 18:20
  Speaker 5: come through because of the jew Cote, because of juco coaching,
• 18:23
  Speaker 5: and also because of what happened in North Texas where
• 18:27
  Speaker 5: he had to rebuild a roster every year, so he's
• 18:29
  Speaker 5: very used to He's not intimidated at all, according to.
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: His history of rebuilding a roster. But he also said.
• 18:37
  Speaker 5: That I do believe you can still find a way
• 18:41
  Speaker 5: to make it non transactional.
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: And I had talked and written.
• 18:45
  Speaker 5: About how with devrees leaving and players leaving, that it's
• 18:48
  Speaker 5: not a matter of loyalty now it is a matter
• 18:50
  Speaker 5: of simple transactions. So, guys, can you get beyond is
• 18:55
  Speaker 5: it reasonable to expect that you can get beyond it
• 18:58
  Speaker 5: being simply a transaction relationship? And can you have a
• 19:02
  Speaker 5: guy stay for a couple of years?
• 19:05
  Speaker 4: Yes, on both fronts, yes, but can it be your
• 19:07
  Speaker 4: entire roster? No, No, so that that cannot be. I
• 19:11
  Speaker 4: think there can be pieces that you carry over and
• 19:14
  Speaker 4: you build.
• 19:14
  Speaker 3: That and you've seen that.
• 19:15
  Speaker 4: You've seen that with some teams that are still playing
• 19:17
  Speaker 4: in the NCAA tournament that have had guys that have
• 19:19
  Speaker 4: stayed multiple years. That's becoming harder and it's probably unrealistic
• 19:23
  Speaker 4: to expect that every underclassman or every player with eligibility
• 19:27
  Speaker 4: returns to your roster every year. And remember some of
• 19:29
  Speaker 4: that's program choice as well. That's the other part of
• 19:32
  Speaker 4: this is sometimes you watch a player every day for
• 19:35
  Speaker 4: nine months and go, you know what, that's not exactly
• 19:37
  Speaker 4: where we need to be at that position. So some
• 19:39
  Speaker 4: of that comes from the program side. But I think
• 19:41
  Speaker 4: there's pieces that can carry over each year, and I
• 19:43
  Speaker 4: think that's what you're trying to get to.
• 19:45
  Speaker 3: That's the hope.
• 19:46
  Speaker 4: The guys that you would like to stay another year,
• 19:48
  Speaker 4: for the most part, you can keep on hand until
• 19:50
  Speaker 4: the money normalizes a little bit more.
• 19:52
  Speaker 3: You're going to continue to lose guys. I mean, the.
• 19:54
  Speaker 4: Market is just outrageous, especially in basketball, where you don't
• 19:59
  Speaker 4: a couple guys can change the fortunes of your team.
• 20:01
  Speaker 4: So there's schools that are willing to overpay to try
• 20:04
  Speaker 4: and hit that. So there's going to be a transactional
• 20:06
  Speaker 4: nature to this moving forward. You just hope there are
• 20:09
  Speaker 4: some that you can keep that you want to keep.
• 20:11
  Speaker 4: That's how I would view this.
• 20:12
  Speaker 5: He said something else that stood out to me as well,
• 20:15
  Speaker 5: where clearly and Brad, you talked about this at the
• 20:17
  Speaker 5: beginning quickly, he has a philosophy and it's defense first,
• 20:19
  Speaker 5: and he knows what he wants to do. He has
• 20:22
  Speaker 5: that experience. But he also said Tony that he would
• 20:26
  Speaker 5: not he wasn't going to be so locked in that
• 20:30
  Speaker 5: that's exactly what he was going to do year to year.
• 20:33
  Speaker 5: They would he would have to make adjustments based on
• 20:36
  Speaker 5: the personnel.
• 20:37
  Speaker 4: Sure, so as every coach does, and so as as
• 20:42
  Speaker 4: first reported on this program, and he pointed out in
• 20:45
  Speaker 4: his press conference today when it's the defense gets so
• 20:48
  Speaker 4: much talk around his programs, but he pointed out the
• 20:51
  Speaker 4: number two offensive efficiency.
• 20:52
  Speaker 3: Team in the AAC.
• 20:53
  Speaker 4: And again, if you're a regular listening to the show,
• 20:54
  Speaker 4: you already knew that before.
• 20:56
  Speaker 3: We got there.
• 20:56
  Speaker 4: So what he's saying to you there hop is and
• 20:58
  Speaker 4: again I think the Grant mccas example is the example.
• 21:03
  Speaker 4: It is a great blueprint at this point. But mccaslyn
• 21:06
  Speaker 4: also at North Texas known for their defense, known for
• 21:09
  Speaker 4: a slower pace. We saw them play in the COVID
• 21:11
  Speaker 4: year here in the coliseum, and that's what they were.
• 21:13
  Speaker 4: They were a grinded out, tough team that played at
• 21:17
  Speaker 4: a slower pace at times. Grant McCaslin had the fifth
• 21:20
  Speaker 4: rated offensive efficiency team in the country this year because
• 21:23
  Speaker 4: why hopey. Yeah, if you watched Sexas Tech, they had
• 21:26
  Speaker 4: some skilled offensive players and you were able to do
• 21:29
  Speaker 4: different things and your best chance to win was to
• 21:32
  Speaker 4: try and get more offensive possessions because you had some
• 21:34
  Speaker 4: skilled guys. So I think that's what he's getting at
• 21:37
  Speaker 4: there is don't just assume this is a walk the
• 21:39
  Speaker 4: ball up the court and we're gonna hold it till
• 21:41
  Speaker 4: there's five seconds, like the old school four corners where
• 21:43
  Speaker 4: you just stand out there as the court wait for
• 21:45
  Speaker 4: the clock and around. Now it in that it is
• 21:47
  Speaker 4: not that it is going to be you get the
• 21:49
  Speaker 4: best basketball players you can, and we're gonna get guys
• 21:52
  Speaker 4: that want to play defense and they want to grind
• 21:53
  Speaker 4: and they're tough, and then based on your offensive skill.
• 21:56
  Speaker 4: That's gonna formulate your pace and what you do on
• 21:59
  Speaker 4: the offense of that. And that's really the way to
• 22:00
  Speaker 4: look at that. And that will be tweaked based upon
• 22:03
  Speaker 4: your personnel.
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: And he elaborated on that. He did another Q and
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: A during the luncheon. And you know, like he said, well,
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: this past year at West Virginia, you've got Javon Small,
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: so you will focus and you will concentrate on getting
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: shots and getting him in space and letting Jivon Small
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: get shots. Conversely, you go back, you know, back to
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: the days of Devin Williams at West Virginia. What are
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: you gonna do. You're gonna run a lot of post
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: up stuff to get him the ball and score the
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: ball around the basket. That's what coaches do. That's their goal.
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: I mean, that's their job. They evaluate, see what they
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: can do, see what they can't do, They hide what
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: they can't do, and they do what they.
• 22:38
  Speaker 3: Can do and then tweak and adjust as the season
• 22:41
  Speaker 3: goes on.
• 22:42
  Speaker 5: Sure, he as I said earlier, he had done his
• 22:45
  Speaker 5: He had done his homework. I mean, he rattled all
• 22:47
  Speaker 5: things about West Virginia, about previous coaches going back to
• 22:50
  Speaker 5: Gil Catlett about that famous scene with with Hugs and
• 22:54
  Speaker 5: day Sean in the Final four.
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: I mean he was prepared.
• 23:00
  Speaker 5: He had already done a deep dive in West Virginia,
• 23:02
  Speaker 5: I think last night going to the baseball game with
• 23:04
  Speaker 5: his family. What a great way, Brad for him to
• 23:07
  Speaker 5: be introduced to West Virginia.
• 23:09
  Speaker 4: Yeah, right on a fun environment. Yeah right, single game
• 23:12
  Speaker 4: record in terms of attendants, packed lineup. Now, do they
• 23:15
  Speaker 4: have the run rule in college, because that would have
• 23:17
  Speaker 4: applied you stand there.
• 23:19
  Speaker 3: He used it the.
• 23:22
  Speaker 4: Same Sweet Caroline had him out there meeting everybody was great,
• 23:25
  Speaker 4: good night, fun night at the park.
• 23:27
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it was fun night at the park.
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: And by the way, speaking of that, how about the
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: world champion Mountaineer baseballers. We're just we're just kind of
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: taking it for granted. I mean they bring up some runs. Now,
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: just line up at nine against Ohio State the other night,
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: right was nine six, and they just they roll out
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: another double digit.
• 23:45
  Speaker 4: I mean it's a mash and defense was big. They
• 23:47
  Speaker 4: had some massive double plays in there the chase of that.
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: Game, three inning ending double plays.
• 23:53
  Speaker 4: Yeah, got job by them. Steve Sabs and the company
• 23:56
  Speaker 4: Utah in this week, right, Yeah, I'm.
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: Gonna have to depending gonna have to deal. Yeah, you're
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: gonna have to deal with the rain drops and things
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: like that this weekend. But yeah, it would be great
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: if you could get get in there and get the
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: utes and squeeze them for three would be really nice.
• 24:08
  Speaker 4: Right, by the way, dead period in college basketball right now,
• 24:12
  Speaker 4: excuse me, dead period, no contact, no visits.
• 24:16
  Speaker 5: Oh so that's good to know, because now there could
• 24:19
  Speaker 5: not be any contact made correct.
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: Schools, No, no, no, no, you can they can't visit and
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: you can't go see them. That doesn't okay, that doesn't
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: mean there's not gonna be four point three million phone calls.
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: Well, just as long as the rules are in place.
• 24:33
  Speaker 4: Very strict rules, no visits, you can't visit anybody, Very
• 24:36
  Speaker 4: strict rules in place here on April third. Now by
• 24:39
  Speaker 4: April twelfth, no rules again. You can do whatever you want,
• 24:41
  Speaker 4: but April third through seventhdical from doing whatever you want.
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: Brad and I, Brad and I had a chance to
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: conversate with the with the Ross. Afterward. We're just just
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: chatting it up, and I'll tell you what we started
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: talking nil and the dollar amounts that are out there
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: being paid and it just will share it just well,
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: so in essence.
• 25:09
  Speaker 4: It's a seller's market right now. Yeah, you're buying, you
• 25:13
  Speaker 4: better go pick up a second job. Really, it's my money's.
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: Escalating the minimum for a big okay, the minimum for
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: a big that can go up and down the floor
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: and not hurt himself. You know what I mean, like
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: someone that can go up and down the floor. Minimum
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: start seven? Okay, okay, So let's just kind of do
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: some projections here.
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: Let me get my pencil out.
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: Go ahead, You want to hit him with the Javan Small?
• 25:40
  Speaker 4: Well, I mean I said it many times throughout the year.
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: If a Javan Small were to have come back, right,
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: but it doesn't look like the year they're going to
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: allow that additional year of eligibility that would have given
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: him a fix allowed rule. And had he had he
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: had that, like say, he's granted that number for a
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: guy like him.
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: Okay, yes and a half very good.
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: Plus a million? Excuse me, two and a half million.
• 26:06
  Speaker 3: You knew that we've talked about on the show.
• 26:08
  Speaker 4: If he was coming back, he was going to be
• 26:10
  Speaker 4: in the two and a half million dollar range, and
• 26:11
  Speaker 4: that might be low, might have been pushing three given
• 26:14
  Speaker 4: the year he had.
• 26:14
  Speaker 5: Then it's better to stay in college than absolutely guys
• 26:18
  Speaker 5: league or absolutely that's what you're gonna You're going to
• 26:21
  Speaker 5: see more players stay.
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: You're seeing more players.
• 26:24
  Speaker 5: Stay okay in West Virginia. So basketball, I know it
• 26:27
  Speaker 5: depends on the rev share and what they get. I
• 26:29
  Speaker 5: know they're shooting for twenty, they're shooting for twenty and
• 26:32
  Speaker 5: a half, maybe twenty point five, yeah, twenty eight point five,
• 26:36
  Speaker 5: but maybe they end up with sixteen or eighteen.
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: You got to see how it goes. So what do
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: you have for basketball?
• 26:43
  Speaker 4: For what you can see here is how I how quickly,
• 26:48
  Speaker 4: how quickly it adds up? Yeah, I mean that that's
• 26:52
  Speaker 4: the that's the lesson. So what you're doing if you're
• 26:54
  Speaker 4: if your most programs in Westreet's going to be as
• 26:57
  Speaker 4: as competitive as as most around college basketball. But you
• 27:01
  Speaker 4: also have to find some guys. Javon's a great example.
• 27:05
  Speaker 4: What you did with Javon's a great example. Find a
• 27:07
  Speaker 4: really good basketball player that then gets in a position
• 27:10
  Speaker 4: where they can blossom and explode. Texas Tech again a
• 27:12
  Speaker 4: great example in that right, they had multiple guys that
• 27:15
  Speaker 4: they got under what would be market value today and
• 27:19
  Speaker 4: coach them up, and they played up, and they stayed
• 27:21
  Speaker 4: relatively healthy till the end of this year, and that
• 27:23
  Speaker 4: turned into a magical season for Texas Tech. So there
• 27:26
  Speaker 4: is still some evaluation and development that goes into this.
• 27:29
  Speaker 4: This is not going to You're not going to have
• 27:31
  Speaker 4: enough money to just buy your entire roster. You've got
• 27:33
  Speaker 4: to find some guys. And I think that's where the
• 27:36
  Speaker 4: coaches I've talked to about Ross have have both mentioned
• 27:39
  Speaker 4: or multiple people have mentioned that he's a really good recruiter.
• 27:43
  Speaker 4: One of them told the elite one of the guys,
• 27:45
  Speaker 4: We'll have to elite recruiter. And again, if you're a juco,
• 27:47
  Speaker 4: you've got to be able to find those guys.
• 27:49
  Speaker 5: Here's here's a part of it that I've been asking
• 27:53
  Speaker 5: about and researching that I just I can't get. I
• 27:57
  Speaker 5: can't get it yet. And we know that Rene has
• 28:00
  Speaker 5: gone to the academic side, the campus side. The Board
• 28:04
  Speaker 5: of Governor said we need some help here, and I
• 28:07
  Speaker 5: know that there is, at least for the most part,
• 28:10
  Speaker 5: there's a recognition that the athletic department in football and basketball,
• 28:14
  Speaker 5: are the primary faces of the university, so it has value.
• 28:19
  Speaker 5: So there will be some additional help from the academic
• 28:24
  Speaker 5: campus side. By that, I mean whether it's absorbing some
• 28:28
  Speaker 5: of the cost of scholarships or rent or whatever. It
• 28:31
  Speaker 5: is some redirection of dollars. I just can't get my
• 28:33
  Speaker 5: hands on what it's going to be, or what it's
• 28:35
  Speaker 5: going to look like, or what are we talking about
• 28:37
  Speaker 5: in total dollars that will be made available to the
• 28:40
  Speaker 5: athletic department. Maybe because they haven't worked it out yet,
• 28:42
  Speaker 5: that's probably it. But I know Wren is trying to
• 28:46
  Speaker 5: secure that from the academics lash campus side to ensure
• 28:51
  Speaker 5: some additional financial help for athletics. I just don't know
• 28:54
  Speaker 5: an amount, even though I've been asking.
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's fluid, do you mm hmm. I
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: think they know what the number is. I think they
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: have a pretty good idea of what it needs to be,
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: and I think they feel confident that they'll get there.
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: But to your point, I mean, schools and it's just
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: not West Virginia, I mean, are coming to the realization
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: that their athletics programs, like it or not, are perhaps
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: the single greatest promoter of the brand of the university,
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: and now they're being asked to supplement the department because
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: of the changing times in athletics where these departments have
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: to have more money just to be able to be
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: competitive to put teams on the field.
• 29:40
  Speaker 4: And some of that request comes because this, these new
• 29:43
  Speaker 4: dollars that are going to be outlaid, came upon you
• 29:47
  Speaker 4: pretty quick. You didn't have a five year ramp up
• 29:49
  Speaker 4: to go raise the additional twenty million dollars you need
• 29:51
  Speaker 4: to get. It was it was boom and here when
• 29:53
  Speaker 4: this is approved, it's going to be right up and
• 29:55
  Speaker 4: it's in your button, like now you got to start
• 29:57
  Speaker 4: paying the guys. Now we need it right now. There
• 29:59
  Speaker 4: was no ramp So yeah, I think some of that
• 30:01
  Speaker 4: number will become fluid based on what your TV money
• 30:04
  Speaker 4: ends up with, what your ticket sales are, what your
• 30:06
  Speaker 4: other fundraising is, and it's a differing amount. I think
• 30:08
  Speaker 4: what you're trying to get if you're Rent Baker, is
• 30:10
  Speaker 4: a commitment that whatever it takes to keep West Virginia
• 30:14
  Speaker 4: at the big table, you're going to do that, whether
• 30:17
  Speaker 4: whether that's three million one year and seven the next,
• 30:20
  Speaker 4: whatever that becomes, it's just do we have a commitment
• 30:23
  Speaker 4: from the entire university that athletics is important and that
• 30:27
  Speaker 4: it matters and it pushes the university forward. Are we
• 30:30
  Speaker 4: all in and on the same page. I think that's
• 30:32
  Speaker 4: what you're trying to gain right now. If you're Rent Baker,
• 30:34
  Speaker 4: that's sort of exactly.
• 30:35
  Speaker 5: I agree completely. And and you're going to and if
• 30:38
  Speaker 5: you want to be in the upper tier of the
• 30:41
  Speaker 5: Big twelve and you want to be what I think
• 30:43
  Speaker 5: that fans expect you to be, then you have to
• 30:48
  Speaker 5: do that because if you fall short, you're going to
• 30:51
  Speaker 5: just you're done. You're done, You're done.
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: Absolutely absolutely you want to play on this stage, yeah,
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: you have to do it. Saint Francis of Pennsylvania decided
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: they didn't want to be on this stage anymore so
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: after playing in the NCAA tournament this year playing game,
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: they announced their dropping down a Division III because they said,
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: we're not doing this, We're out. And it probably makes
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: a ton of sense for them, but for a West Virginia,
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: you're not anywhere near ever even thinking about that for
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: so many different reasons.
• 31:24
  Speaker 4: And this is this is a both feed in the
• 31:26
  Speaker 4: deep end here. This isn't a well, I'm gonna stick
• 31:28
  Speaker 4: my toe in the water. And CFL says, are you enter,
• 31:30
  Speaker 4: you out? And we're getting that separation right now. In
• 31:33
  Speaker 4: West Virginia is in the inn part of that. They're
• 31:35
  Speaker 4: willing to make that commitment move forward.
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: You know, Darren Devrees and I have no idea specifically
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: what his reasons were for leaving, but I can tell
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: you one thing that absolutely took him like a magnet
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: to Indiana as they have the largest NIL in the
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: Big Ten Conference and they are estimating that they will
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: spend seven million dollars in NIL. And like I've said before,
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: like coaches aren't gonna go anywhere where they don't think
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: they can win and be competitive.
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  Speaker 5: So when you're building this roster, and I would would
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  Speaker 5: he have had any would coach hodjavet any in all
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  Speaker 5: money at U and T.
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  Speaker 1: Four hundred grand is the reported number.
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  Speaker 2: Four and a grand. So what do you guys think?
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  Speaker 5: I mean, do you do you say, wow, this is
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  Speaker 5: this is a great point, or this is a great
• 32:30
  Speaker 5: big guy and it's gonna cost us one and a
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  Speaker 2: Or do you say or do you say, this is
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  Speaker 2: what I have for a big guy? Yes?
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  Speaker 4: And yes, yes and yes this is a do you
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  Speaker 4: talk about a moving target? And a moving puzzle that
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  Speaker 4: you're trying to put together. That's what you're doing is
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  Speaker 4: who's available from a big perspective, and he costs one
• 32:52
  Speaker 4: point two. I'm not even sure he can get nine
• 32:55
  Speaker 4: and six in this league. I can't pay one two
• 32:57
  Speaker 4: for that. You're gonna give me nine and six? That's
• 32:59
  Speaker 4: what we project. I got eight hundred for you here.
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  Speaker 4: I mean there's some auctioning process going on too, and
• 33:03
  Speaker 4: it constantly moves. That's a hard So that's an impot
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  Speaker 4: I'm not trying to evade your answer. That's just because
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  Speaker 4: that's moving every day. Who's available? Who can we get?
• 33:12
  Speaker 4: Who are we in the lead for. Who's a legitimate negotiation,
• 33:15
  Speaker 4: not just using me to go get money down the
• 33:17
  Speaker 4: road here and seeing what will pony up and how
• 33:19
  Speaker 4: good The projection part of this is what gets tough,
• 33:23
  Speaker 4: especially when you're taking guys from another level. You talked
• 33:25
  Speaker 4: about Ross moving up from the American in this league. Well,
• 33:28
  Speaker 4: you're dealing with that with players. Okay, so you average
• 33:31
  Speaker 4: sixteen a game in that league, what's that project to
• 33:34
  Speaker 4: the Big twelve. That's why Javon was such a valuable get.
• 33:37
  Speaker 4: You saw Javon playing against the direct teams that you
• 33:40
  Speaker 4: would be playing this year, you could establish a pretty
• 33:42
  Speaker 4: good rate for him and what you would pay you
• 33:44
  Speaker 4: knew that was a really good player. These other guys,
• 33:46
  Speaker 4: it's really hard to do that. It's a really hard matrix.
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: And you know how in some cases, if these guys
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: are still relatively young, then you have a conversation potentially, hey,
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: this is what we'll be able to do this year.
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: Now next year, you know, if it's this and this,
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: then we can crank it up. Texas Tech did that
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: with a couple of their players that were into their
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: second year this year, and that they got a really
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: good number their first year in coming from a lower
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: level program, and then they flourished, and then they kept
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: them after they solidified themselves a textas and they paid
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: them a boat. So there's some of that too. And
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: I think Rich Rodriguez and football is also he is
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: kind of indicated that he will be I'm not going
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: to say performance based, but your value based, Like if
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: you show yourself as a really really productive player, there
• 34:43
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• 34:47
  Speaker 1: to go out there and do what we talked about,
• 34:49
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• 34:52
  Speaker 1: know they don't materialize. So I think what will eventually
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  Speaker 1: get to is guys will be rewarded for productivity rather
• 35:02
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  Speaker 5: Have you brought up to uh Rich or coach Hodge
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  Speaker 1: They wouldn't have had a dog gone home game there
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  Speaker 5: I think he will enjoy and he referenced that today,
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• 40:32
  Speaker 1: Well? Yeah, you're paying fourteen hundred dollars a month for
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  Speaker 1: Look at that three bocks, like we're even it.
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  Speaker 5: Hey didn't didn't you like like today that coach had
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  Speaker 5: his wife, the two kids, I think ones in the
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  Speaker 5: seventh grade, ones of junior correct.
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  Speaker 1: And uh, he had his reading memory, reading memory, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Had his mom there, had his mother in law and father.
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  Speaker 1: No brother, her brother, her brother.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean that was nice. Yeah, it's good, crew, Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Very nice to have him. That's a think about the
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  Speaker 1: know when he started off. We're way far away from
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  Speaker 1: getting to this level. So today is a magical day,
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  Speaker 1: like because we have introductory press conferences every two weeks,
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: whether we need him or not, we might lose the
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: significance of this, but for him and this fam, I mean,
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  Speaker 1: this is a day that will live in infamy for
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: that family.
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  Speaker 3: He he long dream, a.
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• 42:51
  Speaker 1: it with some regularity of late.
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  Speaker 2: I told the audio and video guys just leave it
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  Speaker 5: Geez going to say that, Well, I'm saying and it
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  Speaker 5: You were the master of ceremonies. You're well practiced at
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  Speaker 2: You did it, you did. We had a lot of reps.
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  Speaker 2: You did a nice job, a lot of reps.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, guy taught me years ago. Just get in, get out.
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  Speaker 1: Let's get in and get out.
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  Speaker 2: That's what you did.
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  Speaker 1: Well, you taught me that.
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  Speaker 5: Well, no one ever says they wish you'd spoken longer,
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, I had that horrific situation many years ago
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  Speaker 3: Oh no, yeah, didn't go.
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  Speaker 2: Really, I never knew that.
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  Speaker 5: Oh oh yeah, And I really had never put together, like,
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• 48:26
  Speaker 1: of stuff going on as coach Hodge puts together his
• 48:31
  Speaker 1: staff and then Rich gets into the portal. So it's
• 48:33
  Speaker 1: gonna be stuff.
• 48:35
  Speaker 3: There'll be news coming.
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: Be stuff going on. We're probably though, we're gonna do
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: one show next week, probably Thursday. Okay, yeah, Thursday, we
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: can do a Thursday Thursday. You're good.
• 48:52
  Speaker 3: I don't know, I haven't got that far.
• 48:54
  Speaker 1: Uh we gotta we gotta go now because Brad has
• 48:57
  Speaker 1: to go pay us seven thousand dollars cable bill.
• 49:01
  Speaker 3: The best line there, donuts.
• 49:03
  Speaker 1: You you pay for cinemax three times and still don't
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: get it. Thanks to producer jakesy h