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Bucs Depth Chart Revealed + Jets Practice Gets HEATED · Hear The Cannons - Tampa Bay Buccaneers Podcast

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[SPEAKER_01]: the box and the jets have begun joint practice and man as per usual with these two teams that has been heated so far we've got some fights to talk about here we also have a quarter back injury to discuss as well a very important one
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[SPEAKER_01]: Some big time plays on the defensive side of the ball, multiple pick sixes and we're going to talk about the offense too because Baker was able to connect with a few players including also a rookie on the offensive side of them.
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[SPEAKER_01]: all but with me this morning is Caleb Skinner and at River Wells are two guys about skin a dot com or also going to discuss the unofficial roster as that was just released this morning but gentlemen happy Tuesday we're not up in New York but man we're getting a whole lot of goodies of some reporters that are up there right now big time yeah seems like a yeah a lot of scuffles about every ten minutes here so not to talk about there
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, Luke.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I feel like Riverhan was free to us.
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[SPEAKER_01]: River.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm do stuff.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We got fight having Luke get a keys ripping off helmets.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You throw on helmets.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I need you here.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Riverhan's fucking you hear me.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Fine.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I can hear you fine, but you're whispering to me.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We got fight habits football season, baby.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Let's go.
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[SPEAKER_00]: No juice behind those eyes right now.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, but Luke doing the things early.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We love it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Just got finished tossing a jet helmet about 20 yards down.
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[SPEAKER_00]: great to see, but talk both really well and love it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And for our regular viewers here, I have fixed hat gate.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I've got the decents that we've already had on now.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Since the boss of Red Sox have now lost 3 in a row, I'm back on the wagon, I guess.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Just like Brad Pitt.
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[SPEAKER_01]: No, the rays find ways to win.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think they had a late game last night.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They came back to win that one and looking forward to going to the game on Friday night But we're here to talk some bucks as well.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But let's go ahead and get started because there was a lot to discuss this morning.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think we start off with Luke get a key.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, when fights break out, scuffles break out, that's always the one that's going to bring the most engagement.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And so I know you guys want to see what happened.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So let's jump into that right away.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So this was early on.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This was very early on.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I would imagine this was one on ones as we usually are out there and we can see those practices with other teams and
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[SPEAKER_01]: you actually this is uh... this is the second fight i'm going to be first by first yes it's there's since there's multiple we got to all of them here but
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[SPEAKER_01]: Get a key and who is this David Bailey who David Bailey I was you know seen this morning has had a really strong start to his joint practice against the bucks coming off the line as you know you got he played for Texas tech a rookie coming in David Bailey was stopped on a past rush attempt in one on one against look at a key he then slapped I'm guessing obviously get a key in the head.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Of course, Lugetiki is going to retaliate, then an eruption feisty, there were a few other tweets as well put out there for people on the ground watching that, you know, both teams just went at it, there was a pile up and everything.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We've seen this before from Lugetiki, guys, and you know, he's been having some battles off throughout Bucks, cancels specifically with Ruben Bane and all of those other adressures, some of those adressors like David Walker, who's wanting to get out on the field more, so he's had.
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[SPEAKER_01]: just a battle off the route and things get a little bit heated here, and it's just the get起 way, man, I'll go over to the second tweet here that I pulled up of some more description of what happened.
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[SPEAKER_01]: huge fight.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This is coming from Ralph saying it started after Jets, Edge, David Belly, bull-rushed books, bucks off into tackle who've got a keen to the backfield and they shoved each other, Bailey slapped his helmet and then the rest of their teams literally piled on in just a few minutes ago, guys.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Another huge fight, just as Jets, safety,
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[SPEAKER_01]: It was an enormous scrum and at one point bucks off into tackle, Luke Gadikey, ripped a helmet off of a jet's player and sent it flying a ticket a while for the coaches to settle it all down.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So gentlemen, I'll give you guys a floor.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Gadikey's and mid-season form, I must say.
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[SPEAKER_02]: this is not surprising.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, I've been faced with some juiceless allegations on this podcast, but one person who definitely isn't is a little guy.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He's always bringing it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So that doesn't surprise me.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And he's been one of those guys, especially during games, enjoy practices.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Of course, that's always been talk and then bring in the attitude and really, you know, bringing that aggression that Asian Robinson kind of talked about, right, that
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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, everything at HR happens and says something a bane quote, kind of, but, uh, great, great quote from him.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He's bringing that look good, okay.
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[SPEAKER_02]: For sure.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Sure.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, not surprise.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, he is kind of one of those tone setters or the offense as a whole of the team as a whole.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, it's not surprising to see him active early.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, when it comes to these sort of things, yeah, as pointed out as one of one of the comments of the chat, there are some different accounts of what happened there in that first fight, whether
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[SPEAKER_00]: Good that you got pushed back into the backfield or whether he won the rap, whatever it may be, but Clearly something was off there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There's probably some chirping.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I guess he jumped a little bit on the play beforehand and then get, you know, call for it, but Bailey would probably had to say something to him.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So that's kind of what led into that one.
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[SPEAKER_00]: This one's interesting.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know what happened here.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's a really cause loop to kind of get involved here.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, Baker throwing a pick that doesn't really warrant a huge fight to me.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's just something that happens.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's her turn.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There for loop, you know, to react that way.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Obviously, the team is going to react the way that they are when something like this happens.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So, which is good and shows that camaraderie.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But we know Todd Bowles is not going to be overly thrilled with his team going to get in the two massive brawls in the first joint practice.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, no, I don't, yeah, no, he'll be pretty stern on that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, we actually saw him river, you could take us through it whenever we saw it in IPF when the guys were chirping.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We saw Trotter, you know, getting involved there and even Baker Mayfield comes from behind watching the second team go out of He Baker comes in and talks to Dersai and tells him to get off the field and sure enough, Todd Bolsen's Trotter off the field and Trotter leaves and he takes off his helmet and he's chirping point at the
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[SPEAKER_01]: at the offense.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, that this is what Todd Bowles and Jason, I wanted to add those some juice to those, as long as it's paying care of and you know, you clean things up and we get back and what we need to do and this is a job like things need to be handled.
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[SPEAKER_01]: are calmly eventually, but they wanted to add juice to this.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I was seeing some tweets of, you know, not show up there as I asked him, are you going to be, you know, using your voice he said, I'm just going to be me, and if I'm going to be there to play ball.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's what you're going to get.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This is what you wanted.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I just got to be safe in it, but I don't think there's any shocked anybody here on this show or any of you guys in the comments.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I look at a key is a feisty dude and he wants to get after any.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And if you mess with them, he's going to retaliate when he's pissed off.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Big time, big time.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He's always had that energy right in that attitude and he's just constantly brought to the team.
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[SPEAKER_02]: There's since he got there and people have talked about it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They know other players have talked about it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Logan loves to ask, like defensive players like who's chirping the most and stuff like that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh yeah, whenever we do ask them, the name that we always get is a little
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and I, you know, it goes back to, I like nasty defense of Lyman and mean if you think about in Buck's history, I mean you had a lot of those, including one of the staff, who was a nasty, nasty individual, John Gritton brought him up last week when he came and visited practice.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, that's what you want there, and a guy that can play a lot of downs, but also back it up with his voice.
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[SPEAKER_01]: and it's play I mean but yeah I mean that's that's what they want I mean I come in from Tallahassee covering four to stages being an FSC fan growing up there was one of my favorite players Timmy Journey again and you know if there's any FSC fans in here that's just how that guy played you also had Jared first as well who's a pretty damn good stud in the league as well whole talk, whole talk is shit but you got to back it up on the field and that's something Luke you do you do
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[SPEAKER_01]: Look at it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's a stud man.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He is.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Big time.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Big time.
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[SPEAKER_01]: A really fun start to the joint training camp there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But now let's go over to the quarterback position because this is something we're talking about.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, the chat.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We're going to get to some of those comments in a second here.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Let me go over this real quick and then we'll get to your guys' comments.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This is an interesting one here that we got to keep a close eye on.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This is Jake Browning
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[SPEAKER_01]: This is from our guy, Jeff up there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He covers the bucks with us on the beat saying.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Shout out Jeff.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, shout Jeff, good guy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But he said, Jake Browning seems to be limping after a run.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's being looked at by the trainer right now and river you were seeing during our production meeting that he actually is no longer on the field.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Is that correct?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, he went inside, confirmed.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He went inside.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Mm.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Went inside.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So,
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oops, what does that mean?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You have a thick rip around thing no longer here.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I have no juice, I guess.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I have to get out of here.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But I mean, this is certainly something, I mean, it's preseason and we've got a ways away from, of course, the season beginning, but just specifically talking about the first preseason game which is going to be on Friday, which is only three days away.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, we're not expecting for Baker Mayfield to play in that one, obviously.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And now, you know, the big battle has been QB3 between Connor Bay's lack and Jalen Daniels.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This is interesting.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, we got to see what Todd Bols says after practice here and a few minutes.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But, you know, this could just be, I mean, not that you were going to see a lot of browning.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think you're going to see a little bit, you know, kind of.
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[SPEAKER_01]: you know get the get the offense down.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I feel like you probably would have seen a decent amount of running this free season.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So that would be pretty interesting.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And that if browning's not there and bigger, I feel it's not playing.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And it's the jailed angles and Connor Bay's lack show.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And part of free season is kind of trying to evaluate your talent that you have.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And if you don't have a quarterback who can kind of lead the offense at a high rate and that becomes a little bit more difficult, right?
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[SPEAKER_02]: So it would be interesting if browning was
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[SPEAKER_02]: and how they'd have the trust kind of Connor Bay's lack and Jalen Daniels to be able to do that to evaluate guys like Ted Hurst and some of the other offensive rookies, right?
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[SPEAKER_02]: So interesting to see, hopefully nothing serious, but if it is, it would be interesting to see what the books end up doing there because last year, one of the big reasons why people claim that Baker may feel didn't leave the games is because they didn't trust
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[SPEAKER_02]: then you kind of have a similar situation, don't you?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, absolutely.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think it's anything that really worry about right now in the preseason per se because you can get based like you can't get Daniels.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There's extra reps right in the preseason and these joint practices, whatever it may be.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, but we're not going to know immediately right this just happened.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We're going to they're going to give like their best guess of what, you know, the injury is, you know, moving forward could be a spring day with something similar to that until they can do further testing, which usually isn't going to happen until the next day.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then, you know, maybe this afternoon and you're not really going to get the results and so tomorrow.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So it'll be intriguing to see what comes of it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But if it doesn't seem like it's too serious, it looks like he was still able to walk off the field, which is always a good sign, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: So, um,
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[SPEAKER_00]: The part that you would worry about right is if this is something more serious, and it does lead into the regular season right because of the type of situation clearly did not work out for Tampa Bay last year when he was thrown into action.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And you don't really have a proven guy behind Baker Mayfield and Jake Browning.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yet, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: You don't really know what you have.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You don't really know what you have with Daniels until we get through these precincts.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So, I think it probably would be good to even get them a little bit more reps here and these precincts.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So you do know what you have in case this is a more serious injury or in case this does happen at any point throughout the remainder of training camp in the precinct as well as during the regular season because you want these guys to have some live action things that they have been able to see that they can be able to diagnose.
12:58
[SPEAKER_00]: and therefore if Baker does go down, you do have a guy that knows how to run this offense and can run it efficiently enough to still potentially go out there and get you a win.
13:08
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it was pretty funny because something that showed up on my Instagram feed this morning was the Jarvis Landry and Leonard Fornet interview that they conducted with Baker may feel
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[SPEAKER_01]: week, week and a half ago when they visited practices and they specifically brought up, you know, Baker, we need you to stay healthy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We, we, we like the spiciness.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We love all that, but man, you know, we can't have you injured.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We want to see you out there balling, but they also understand, you know, the kind of play that he brings and, you know, Baker said, you
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[SPEAKER_01]: I understand that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I fully understand that, but there's times where I need to light a fire under their ass talking about his teammates and he said that and I'm looking forward to watching the rest of that interview because that's just how bakers mentality is, but you're right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You're both you guys are right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean the the
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[SPEAKER_01]: The thing last year with Teddy Bridgewater, Teddy Bridgewater was not a great piece at QB2.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, they had no one at QB2 last year, and that's specifically why Baker made field played with a purple arm.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Why he had his lower legs were injured, or his lower half was injured, and upper body was dealing with multiple things.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, it was a tough time for him as he expressed that, and that Netflix.
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[SPEAKER_01]: documentary.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So got one of the point out here on Chris Cole and developing situation.
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[SPEAKER_02]: There appears to be an ambulance and a stretcher out at practice for a jet's player and practice has stopped.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So whoever that jet's player is, they are okay, but it seems like practices stops the moment because of that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: and I would imagine 100% that's all, that's all, that's all it will do for, you know, team, verse team, one-on-ones, all that kind of stuff.
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[SPEAKER_01]: When, like you said, we were, um, prayers of that guy, whoever that might be.
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[SPEAKER_00]: No context from Chris at the chat right there is QAV, every, oh go, I said, he didn't like that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I know, Holy Spirit, you know, my God.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh man, you gotta, that's all thing.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, our friend Jeff DeVaroff said it seemed to be for a jazz player.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It seems to be for a jet's player.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, either way, wishing the best for that player hate to see that stuff.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Certainly, no matter what during the season, preseason, offseason, all that kind of stuff.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But since now, B reporters are there at practices.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We see this, and an ambulance on the field has never, ever, good.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm hoping literally hoping the best there, or whoever that might be.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Another quick update from Jeff DeBrov practice has continued.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So Bucks are in red zone.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, here we go.
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[SPEAKER_01]: All right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So they are back at it there on that end.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to bring up some plays made so far on the defensive side of the ball in gentlemen and ladies.
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[SPEAKER_01]: There's been a lot of them.
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[SPEAKER_01]: There has been a ton of them so far and Genosmith is having a rough day on air.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So, started off here, well, this was maybe I think a second, third pick, but Genosmith
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[SPEAKER_01]: it's picked off now there were some reports here and i'm not sure if it's the same player not because i did see some of our buck speed up there saying that just i try to got close to the interception but didn't catch it and then some of the jets media are saying that he did catch it but just i try to.
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[SPEAKER_01]: No matter what it's really different one but different one okay.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, through it right to genus mythos, it right to trotter, third interception of the day, and 11 on 11 drills, not a pretty day for Geno, but specifically for trotter guys.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, the biggest question mark on him has been coverage.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It was our question mark whenever we reacted to him getting drafted guys, but you got to think, you know, Todd Bowles is like in what he's seen from his young rookie.
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[SPEAKER_02]: For sure, for sure, people are kind of already talking on social media about, oh, he did.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He's not number one in the depth chart, you know, just give it time, you know.
17:28
[SPEAKER_02]: Give it time.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Um, they've been making some pretty good plays so far.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It sounds like this was just thrown directly to him, which, you know, it's still a nice little catch.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We've seen a lot from him and his ability to do that is obviously encouraging, going forward.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But, yeah, like you said, seems to be a rough day at the office for Mr. Genus myth over there.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Tough.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Tough scenes.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Tough scenes.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I don't know how, like, you feel confident coming out of this practice if you're the jets at all, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, type of base working with pretty much their whole backup secondary and right now when Simon caught them not in there and just feel it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Geno is still throwing three interceptions, two of them being pick sixes or would be pick sixes if it was an actual game.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So not a good look for them, but it's promising for the box, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like this looks great for them.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'll be it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's the Jets Geno Smith.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, not a very good squad, not a team that you're really expecting to do much this year, but if your backups are being able to do this against their ones, that is promising right you you've got who came away with a pick it was a Pepe.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, William is trying to forget who the other one was.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So, um, these guys are showing what they are able to do and the buck and ears need it right.
18:42
[SPEAKER_00]: We've talked all off season about how they need to be better in the secondary.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, and so on and so forth.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So.
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[SPEAKER_00]: This is a step in that direction, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: And that's without Beemo out there, obviously dealing with whatever injury he's got going on now again.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then, so I'm obviously I'm not sure what's going on to him might have a little injury or maybe just a rest day for the first day.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, it's a promising sign for sure.
19:06
[SPEAKER_00]: I like it.
19:07
[SPEAKER_00]: Everybody should like it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And everybody should be a little bit more confident in what these guys are able to do in that secondary.
19:13
[SPEAKER_00]: As long as they continue to be consistent, what they're doing.
19:16
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you're right here, Williams did get a pick and first team reps with Zion McCullum not being out there.
19:23
[SPEAKER_01]: He is there, but he is not participating.
19:25
[SPEAKER_01]: He's in street clothes, but he takes off.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He takes a pick six back to the crib there on a play against, you know, Smith and
19:33
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, like you said, guys, I mean, some of these backups are really starting to stand out with the more opportunities they get, certainly when Benjamin Morrison being out for now, this would be the 10th practice that he is not participating in.
19:46
[SPEAKER_01]: And if you go all the way back to OTAs, I can't count as many literally can't.
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[SPEAKER_01]: on my two hands anymore it's concerning and I think Todd Bowles is tired of it.
19:54
[SPEAKER_01]: He was tired of it whenever the guys weren't healthy and the OTAs and it mandatory mini camp as well and as the comment he told us when we asked about him a couple of days ago at the presser said same is usual
20:10
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, same as usual.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Same as usual.
20:11
[SPEAKER_02]: Same as usual.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Same as usual.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Can't get out there on the field.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I think I think he's kind of fed up with it all as well on his end.
20:18
[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, Williams gets a pick as well.
20:21
[SPEAKER_01]: And then Alex ends a lonely too.
20:23
[SPEAKER_01]: I thought his has just a good steady camp overall.
20:26
[SPEAKER_01]: Great with his leadership.
20:28
[SPEAKER_01]: He gets one off Gino in seven on seven's guys.
20:32
[SPEAKER_02]: He does, and like you mentioned, he's look pretty good so far, especially in coverage across this entire camp, and that's what the bucks need him to be good at, right?
20:41
[SPEAKER_02]: Obviously, 7v7's a different sort of thing, but it is also kind of a secure test of your coverage skills, right?
20:45
[SPEAKER_02]: Because there's no pressure coming around on the quarterback.
20:48
[SPEAKER_02]: So that's pretty encouraging, and to see that happen.
20:51
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm sure the bucks are going to appreciate that.
20:55
[SPEAKER_02]: If you can keep making plays across these joint practices, they got another one, obviously tomorrow, and then they're going to end up going against the Jackson Jack Wars in a few weeks as well.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That would be pretty encouraging going into the regular season, so good stuff now, because it's a lonely so far.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's what we need it, right?
21:11
[SPEAKER_00]: That's what we need.
21:12
[SPEAKER_00]: We need a linebacker, we can cover our own space and in over the middle of the field.
21:15
[SPEAKER_00]: So that's a promising sign going against one, seven on seven does a river mission.
21:19
[SPEAKER_00]: You're not getting that pressure.
21:20
[SPEAKER_00]: You're not getting a lot.
21:21
[SPEAKER_00]: You're just doing with really crossing patterns, if whatever it's called that way.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So that's huge.
21:27
[SPEAKER_00]: I like to hear that, like to see that.
21:29
[SPEAKER_00]: And again, I'll just go back to it, which is consistently make sure that we're doing everything that we need to do on that side of the ball.
21:35
[SPEAKER_00]: and consistently coming away with turnovers, that's exactly what Todd Bull is once out of his defense, and that should reap the rewards later down the road.
21:42
[SPEAKER_01]: Mm-hmm.
21:43
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to go to this real quick.
21:44
[SPEAKER_01]: When we're talking about an opening this show with Nacho, this is coming from Connor Hughes, covers the New York side up there, New Jersey, and the jets, of course, and said, forgot to, forgot former Giants of It's Oblamin, Rakeem, Nunez Rochez is what the bucks, he has not stopped talking today, same guy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's never going to change.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I hate to tell you, but that's just never going to change.
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22:27
[SPEAKER_01]: Let's go back to a few plays though.
22:29
[SPEAKER_01]: We did have some oelvers dL and this is coming from Scott Smith.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They're senior writer there at books or at what the books.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He said we get oel dL one on ones.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Always a highlight of joint practices.
22:43
[SPEAKER_01]: best rep so far is okay didn't Muhammad with a devastatingly fast spin move to the inside against Jets Max Mitchell.
22:54
[SPEAKER_01]: And so we haven't had a whole lot of buzz and chatter and talk about Muhammad.
22:59
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, he's gone back there a few times for some sacks throughout camp.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But he has a nice rep there.
23:06
[SPEAKER_01]: Now, if we go over to the offensive side of the ball, talking about some 7 on 7 here, Baker and the ones just strung together a nice 7 on 7 drive, Baker hits Chris goto in a couple of times over the middle and finished a drive, what they strike to a Mecca Agbuca on a quick, slant, looked crisp.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So Baker and a few of his guys having some
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[SPEAKER_01]: having some positives there getting down the field.
23:32
[SPEAKER_01]: And now this one's interests me quite a bit guys, because we've been talking about them all off season and certainly through these off season practices.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Rookie from LSU, Bauer Sharpe with an excellent catch and coverage while taking a hit.
23:47
[SPEAKER_01]: He's getting better by the day.
23:50
[SPEAKER_01]: And you know,
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[SPEAKER_01]: Throughout, you know, us out there practice is they're not hidden, you know, they're not going to nail a bow or sharp in the middle of the field.
23:57
[SPEAKER_01]: That's just not going to happen.
23:58
[SPEAKER_01]: But whenever you're facing off against other guys, you know, they might just miss some things in the pre and the pre practice meeting that, hey, we're not going to go hard, you know, tap them a little bit.
24:08
[SPEAKER_01]: But some of those guys aren't going to listen to that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They're ready to hit another person in a different jersey.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So, Bauer Sharp gets, gets popped here, but he's able to come down with the catch and he's won that we're keeping a close eye on because this is going to be one of our top battles to watch between him and Devon Kolk throughout the preseason river.
24:24
[SPEAKER_02]: Big time.
24:25
[SPEAKER_02]: Another fight for you, Logan.
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[SPEAKER_01]: One of my goodness.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Fratius.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Now, the chat needs it to, the viewers.
24:31
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
24:31
[SPEAKER_01]: What do we have?
24:32
[SPEAKER_01]: What do we have?
24:33
[SPEAKER_00]: And Patron Robinson.
24:34
[SPEAKER_02]: Woo!
24:35
[SPEAKER_02]: Simon throwing some punches.
24:36
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
24:37
[SPEAKER_02]: So, that's fun.
24:38
[SPEAKER_01]: We got A-Shon Robinson, throw one hand now.
24:41
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, well, not another, not another shocker at all.
24:45
[SPEAKER_01]: And now it's the people you most expect.
24:48
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
24:49
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, hey, listen, man.
24:51
[SPEAKER_02]: Listen, we've talked about this.
24:52
[SPEAKER_02]: The box wanted to bring these guys in, right?
24:56
[SPEAKER_02]: They wanted to bring these guys in.
24:57
[SPEAKER_02]: They wanted to bring in players who had the attitude who had the combativeness who wanted to bring that heat to the box defense.
25:05
[SPEAKER_02]: And offense obviously, but you know mainly guys like Alex and it's a lonely guy's like a child Robinson guys like we're came to his roaches And so far seeing like it's paying off and that's what you want, right?
25:15
[SPEAKER_02]: It's one of the things where Top bulls probably gonna be like hey guys, we can't we can't do that but inside he's like oh, yeah Good stuff from them.
25:25
[SPEAKER_02]: Obviously you want to not be too crazy and wild, but a little bit of testing this and these joint practices is expected
25:32
[SPEAKER_02]: And it seems like every 10 minutes, you know?
25:36
[SPEAKER_02]: There's a fight.
25:37
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
25:37
[SPEAKER_00]: Every 10 days we have to interrupt like programming every single time.
25:40
[SPEAKER_02]: Open that one.
25:42
[SPEAKER_00]: There it is.
25:43
[SPEAKER_00]: I want to go back to the edges.
25:46
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
25:46
[SPEAKER_00]: It's looking.
25:47
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, who would have thought that you're allowed to do a spin move off the edge, you know, especially in the front.
25:53
[SPEAKER_00]: Especially from a tape of A player, like we're allowed to do that.
25:55
[SPEAKER_00]: All of a sudden cool.
25:56
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, that's great to see.
25:58
[SPEAKER_00]: For a QH or a QM excuse me, I feel like he really turns things on when he's going up against like a posing team.
26:05
[SPEAKER_00]: It's the meaner kind of changes, he gets a little bit more fire on everything.
26:09
[SPEAKER_00]: So that's fantastic to see, especially with him probably being more of a rotational guy.
26:13
[SPEAKER_00]: And then I guess we just saw Rubin Vayne seal the edge extremely well.
26:17
[SPEAKER_00]: Being a tackle for loss there on Braden Howell.
26:19
[SPEAKER_00]: And so everything's looking really good from what the buckiners are putting up here in training camp as a whole.
26:26
[SPEAKER_00]: by it's excluded, that'll probably be the one nitpick thing and then the baker made field interception, whatever room you go from here.
26:34
[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, this looks like a great start to these joint practice, it seems like they're remaining fairly healthy throughout it as well.
26:41
[SPEAKER_00]: So let's just keep that moving forward.
26:43
[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, things are looking good, edgy's looking good.
26:46
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, we're gonna have a lot to talk about with Dr. Sharp as you mentioned, Logan.
26:50
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's been a fun player to watch.
26:53
[SPEAKER_01]: He's really athletic, and we kind of knew that coming in, but I think the smarts is his biggest key factor and battling against Colpi as a former quarterback.
27:03
[SPEAKER_01]: And a lot of that, I mean, that changes a game for you so much as a player as we've heard a lot.
27:07
[SPEAKER_01]: Throughout the league and college players, that position switch, I mean, we saw it.
27:12
[SPEAKER_01]: That's a smaller player on draft and free it.
27:14
[SPEAKER_01]: But, you know, it's still not the same roundbourer Sharpe was picked last there, and it's last class.
27:19
[SPEAKER_01]: But Garrett Green came from West Virginia, he moved over to Wider Sieber and he was clicking right away in that training camp last year, a little bit of an up and down one so far.
27:28
[SPEAKER_01]: This camp, it's still, you know, Wider Siebers and tie-dens at that switch is usually pretty quick for them, and they also know where to put themselves on the field to help their quarterback.
27:38
[SPEAKER_01]: a sharp eye at that is a massive name for whenever you guys go to buxameda.com when we talk about a handful of players that we're going to be watching.
27:46
[SPEAKER_01]: Bower sharp is going to be on that list.
27:48
[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, there's they're a sharp with a really nice grab after getting pop, but yeah, I mean, we got some more scuffles here.
27:54
[SPEAKER_01]: This is from Connor Hughes.
27:55
[SPEAKER_01]: Juno Smith touched down to Mason Taylor from 18 yards out.
27:59
[SPEAKER_01]: There was a flag near the line in another fight breaks out, Ash on Robinson and Membo.
28:08
[SPEAKER_01]: They're just going at it.
28:10
[SPEAKER_01]: They're just going at it.
28:10
[SPEAKER_01]: They're tired.
28:11
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean both teams is not just the box, but both teams are tired of facing one another.
28:15
[SPEAKER_01]: So they're just not happy with it at all.
28:18
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28:22
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29:18
[SPEAKER_01]: to hear how Ruben Bane looks against other people.
29:21
[SPEAKER_02]: David Walker looks like he just had a string of tackles for loss at the end of this team period here in a row.
29:26
[SPEAKER_02]: Did he really?
29:27
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's good to hear.
29:28
[SPEAKER_01]: It's good to hear.
29:29
[SPEAKER_01]: See, that's the thing we've been seeing, River, you know, and Caleb, you get the scoop too, as well, or out there practice.
29:34
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, he gets back there.
29:35
[SPEAKER_01]: But he hasn't been, I mean, he just took a poor bucky Irving on a short screen there.
29:40
[SPEAKER_01]: What a taken.
29:40
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean,
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[SPEAKER_01]: Bucky would have been sent, oh, five or 10 yards back if he really wanted to pop them, but he disrupts him up.
29:49
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, this is Ruben Bane, man.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, one of his best tactics.
29:52
[SPEAKER_01]: I know everybody wants to see him get to the quarterback, but tackles for loss in the run game.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That is where Bane really has excellence, and that's why Todd Bowles and Jason Lightworth, you know, just slick in their chops as he was available for them and the NFL draft.
30:08
[SPEAKER_01]: Let's see.
30:11
[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, see, apparently the jet's knocked into Baker.
30:14
[SPEAKER_01]: That caused them prompt to helmet pass on what some people are sentient.
30:19
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
30:20
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, that's the mix of where you get, you know, the bucks are handful of bucks beat up there and the jet's beat.
30:25
[SPEAKER_01]: You're going to kind of get mixed takes on some things.
30:29
[SPEAKER_01]: But one thing is for certain, you know, Smith is not having a great take on air.
30:36
[SPEAKER_01]: Let's see.
30:38
[SPEAKER_01]: Steven says, why did the jets once Rossi had Dennis, they would have to give us a young linebacker and return.
30:44
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think that's the case there on that end.
30:48
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I don't think so.
30:48
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't think I heard any rumblings of that.
30:53
[SPEAKER_01]: Now, I think there was, I believe, a news ally, maybe Blutcher Poor.
30:58
[SPEAKER_01]: Someone did actually put out an article as looking yesterday out of these are just kind of just projections and, you know,
31:04
[SPEAKER_01]: Now that we're in football, we don't need to do much more of that.
31:06
[SPEAKER_01]: We've got things actually talk about on the field, but yet nothing there with Dennis has yet.
31:10
[SPEAKER_01]: That's actually a good question because he's on a consecutive sack streak, is he going to get his 10 sack or 10 or more?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Should I say, I don't think David Walker's gone back there for a sack.
31:20
[SPEAKER_01]: So I was asked about David Walker this morning, like how much, you know,
31:25
[SPEAKER_01]: when we get to the dev charge will be a little bit more specific, but, you know, where why isn't he, you know, D or outside lineback or two, why is he not the second guy off the edge with Ruben Bay and the idea of he's going to step back.
31:37
[SPEAKER_01]: No, I think the staff wants to see him out there on the field.
31:40
[SPEAKER_01]: They got to see him out in a preseason game.
31:42
[SPEAKER_01]: You can't just throw him out there and not even give him any reps and preseason and just put him around bubble wrap.
31:47
[SPEAKER_01]: No, they want to see stuff.
31:48
[SPEAKER_01]: He's got to make sure he knows where he needs to line up, scheme wise and just see his ability against first, you know,
31:54
[SPEAKER_01]: as I see first team offensive tackles, but he's going to see second team guys as well.
31:59
[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, it's going to be interesting to watch how much we see of David Walker once we get closer.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Let's go wrap up this show with the depth chart that was released guys.
33:26
[SPEAKER_01]: And I'll just kind of leave the floor to you got to you.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, what is then?
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[SPEAKER_01]: What's your reaction also to?
33:32
[SPEAKER_01]: I know a few of you guys have already said, you know, looking at the chat.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, why is this person not here?
33:36
[SPEAKER_01]: Why is Ross A. Dennis starting?
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[SPEAKER_01]: What is kind of like the biggest takeaways?
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I'll start with you ever since you actually put on an article earlier on this.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I did.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You can go read it at book and yours on the side.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But scamed it.
33:47
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I mean, I did the biggest thing to look at is probably the outside corners room at Benjamin Morrison, not listed as a starter, is instead Jacob parish on the outside there, right?
33:56
[SPEAKER_02]: So that's something to note, obviously Jacob parish, or sorry, obviously Benjamin Morrison has not been really playing at all.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So with that in mind, it's hard to think that he would be starting there.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Then, of course, Ravasi Adenis, like we mentioned, still technically has that story spot in the unofficial depth chart over Josiah Trader,
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[SPEAKER_02]: Clearly it was right to him, but he made a pick today and he's been really really good Submarine training camps.
34:22
[SPEAKER_02]: It's hard for me to believe that he won't eventually End up doing that Getting that sorry spot, right?
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[SPEAKER_02]: So we'll see you never know, but I think if he's a good preseason Once the official depth chart comes out the first them around you'll probably see just a lot of trodder in there in the mix
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I mean, you take these things with a grain of salt, right?
34:41
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, it's the first step start that's been released this season as all teams are doing.
34:46
[SPEAKER_00]: You're not really deep.
34:47
[SPEAKER_00]: A lot of these guys are obviously cemented into their place, but there's going to be some fluidity to it as well.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Obviously the Sebastian is one kind of being highlighted.
34:57
[SPEAKER_00]: Overall, if it makes sense to me, I think when you look further back on the depth chart, it's kind of where you can pick things apart a little bit more.
35:05
[SPEAKER_00]: Interested to see like live receivers that are in the back half of the roster, who's kind of making their way up that Dean Patterson's looking like he's in a good spot.
35:15
[SPEAKER_00]: And then, obviously, they're lacking some of the guys that they carry it from last year, also looking at where else was I looking at?
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[SPEAKER_00]: I was looking at interested to see Dev and Culp still sitting there over a shower, which is an interesting one.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then you look at the corner back room, pretty much how you would expect it to be.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Interesting that Jacob Parish is sitting there as the second corner would be most in behind Zion.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So,
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[SPEAKER_00]: Things will kind of get on rabble, which you're not releasing a nickel backless it, right?
35:42
[SPEAKER_00]: Like you're not seeing a nickel listed for the book and yours, it also will be interesting to see how that kind of plays in to their schematics and things of that nature moving forward.
35:51
[SPEAKER_00]: I think somebody had mentioned something about, you know, maybe go get Kenny Moore.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I find that very intriguing, like something in the chat brought that up, so you know that I find that very intriguing, because Kenny Moore mostly has played Nickel throughout his entire career.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's what I was gonna say, it's mostly a Nickel guy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Mostly Nickel, but I wouldn't be opposed to possibly, you know, that would move perish outside, obviously, but you could put him at Nickel, have Keontai Scott backing him up, and then if you need to, you could put Kenny outside, I think he can be a little bit better than a Keontai Scott on the outside.
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[SPEAKER_00]: which would provide additional depth, if need be, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I think that's a very intriguing, you know, move that somebody pointed out in the chat that I think it might be worth looking at.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Overall, um, not surprising to me.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We're a lot of these guys lined up.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, Cerassia is obviously the biggest one.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think Trotter is going to eventually overtake that position much, you know, a dude to everybody else believes that as well.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So, um, otherwise not not very shocking to me.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Obviously, injuries will play a little bit of a part in this as well.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Also interesting that Jalen Daniels is still sitting behind Connor Bay's leg, which we probably fully expect him to move up in that that chart area as well.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So,
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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, a lot of things to left on phone, a lot of things left to see until we get that final depth chart when you can finally say, hey, look, this is what the buck and years are rolling into week one with, um, again, since it's Cincinnati Bengals.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Hmm.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm glad you brought up Dean Patterson because he's one that has had a continuous, uh, flashes to us and scored multiple touchdowns.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He made a really good leaping grab in the back of the end zone river and I were watching.
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[SPEAKER_01]: just a couple yards away and he's been a guy that's been steady and that's exactly what Todd Bols said when I asked him about him is just a consistency there from him taking advantage of whenever Jalen McMillan's not practicing or Chris Gottlin is having a vet day on his end.
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[SPEAKER_01]: like those those things and when at Mecca, Boko also was out specifically and those indoor practices, you know Dean Patterson started really fine to his groove there and so he's a one to watch when we get into that first preseason game here in a few days against the jets.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, I don't think there's too much of some shocking things here.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think the first initial takeaway is seeing Dennis there from
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[SPEAKER_01]: from the fans, which is totally understandable, you know, you keep hearing things with your side, a trotter, a trotter man.
38:08
[SPEAKER_01]: He's really shining, yes, he is, but he also is going to have to show some things in a Todd Bowl's defense, which is not that easy to get down, but there's been a lot of confidence.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think one thing that took that I took away from Todd Bowl's this week, he said specifically about these rookies of how fast they've been able to get down.
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[SPEAKER_01]: the plays and where they need to be and be prepared coming into these camps.
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[SPEAKER_01]: If it's rookie mini camp or if it's going into OTAs and mandatory mini camp, he's been very, very pleased with that and it's really starting to show quickly.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's why these guys have been able to flash so fast and training camp because they really got the things down and they're looking at them and it's really not easy for a rookie to come in and get things down.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's like
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's like a quarterback having to get down the defensive side of the ball whenever you're going to be playing for Todd Bowles So he's been certainly pleased with that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to get to a handful of questions here Throughout the chat before we wrap up.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So that is six.
39:25
[SPEAKER_01]: So let's go ahead and jump into a few questions here.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This is from Rawls Springer saying, who do you think will be the team captains this year?
39:36
[SPEAKER_01]: Good question.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It is.
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[SPEAKER_01]: No, I changed two big ones of left the building.
39:41
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I think you're going to have Chris Goblin definitely end up being one.
39:45
[SPEAKER_02]: I think you're going to have bigger mayfield for sure, being one.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Typically, Vita Via is, I think it would depend on kind of how that whole situation plays out.
39:55
[SPEAKER_02]: But I would imagine if he is playing with him by booking years in 2026, he probably still will be a captain.
40:03
[SPEAKER_02]: after that it gets pretty interesting you think maybe I'd throw out Alexander Loney right because live-backer replacing Levantay David coming in there is kind of like quarterback of the defense with the green dot I think that's probably going to be
40:19
[SPEAKER_02]: One to watch for sure Antoine Winfield Jr. of course of us had veteran who's been there for a long time Those are some names that I would just throw out as and Tykees, but we heard Tykees admit this is gonna be a leader Guys and so far I think the team respects him a lot.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Tristan works of course.
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[SPEAKER_02]: There's a few options.
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[SPEAKER_02]: There's a few options
40:37
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I agree.
40:38
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, the the name to speak for themselves.
40:40
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, if you look at the stadium right all four corners of Raymond James stadium, those are usually, you know, some of your big guys that are, you know, going to be wearing that sea on their chest.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You got to believe that big.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I feel it is definitely going to be one of them.
40:52
[SPEAKER_00]: You also got to believe that Peter Bayer if he is in a book in your uniform, this upcoming season, he will also have that sea on his chest.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Then it's kind of like open right like Antoine would feel
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[SPEAKER_00]: Could very likely go ahead and do that working from the back and there's the worst I think probably definitely well I did I didn't mention him at first, but I would say yeah, that's it And I would say worse is definitely high up there as well And then you you can throw in CG right like Chris Godwin.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, definitely a guy who's been in the locker room for very long period of time Definitely a leader within that locker room a leader in the field as well But more so not like highly talk talk it is or anything like that more so let me show you what I'm doing and we'll go from there
41:29
[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, those are it's going to be your typo guys that you really look towards I don't think you know anybody in the middle this year is going to be able to hold that down.
41:37
[SPEAKER_00]: I know you want to say Alex and his will only because you do like having that green dot in the middle of the in the middle of the defense there, but just because he has a green dot doesn't necessarily mean he's going to get that championship.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So it'll be interesting to see if he does, but overall I think you've got a great.
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[SPEAKER_00]: group of guys to choose from in order to be captains and I believe the buck and years let the players vote on on who those captains are anyway So it'll come down to who who who their peers want you know who in the locker room Do they want to be able to lead this team at 2026, but they've got great options all across the board.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to say
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I think a sleeper one would be collage a can see because we were hearing a lot of can't see throughout this off season.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's not a big talkative guy, at least from whenever we're viewing him, but supposedly behind the scenes, he's been leading that room, and I think it'd be more of, you know, obviously if Vita Vega has not on this team or something still going on with him, I think we're collage a can see could jump into there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We'll see but there's a lot of like literally newcomers that we've been told are leaders we're talking about Asian Robinson we're talking about nacho like I don't know if they get specifically a sea on their chest but you know there is a lot of leadership which is team needed in you know national is saying that you know the culture is dead there's nothing there whatsoever it just seems awful.
42:49
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42:55
[SPEAKER_00]: Just a quick anecdote here that Jake Browning was slated to start the preseason game against the jets, but that will now be up in the air for the preseason games.
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[SPEAKER_01]: interesting.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That makes sense.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Something good to note of on there.
43:12
[SPEAKER_01]: This is coming from never had a chance of five, which is pretty good name here for this topic.
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[SPEAKER_01]: If Benjamin Morrison can't play 12 or more games, he is on a bust path and Steven says, Benjamin Morrison is not a bust.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Buck should bring in Kenny Moore.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Second, I bucks won't be bad enough for a quarterback if they
43:37
[SPEAKER_01]: 35 for the heart for 35.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I think if there's 35 touchdowns or frets probably on the cards So let's you do a james Winston's style thing with it.
43:45
[SPEAKER_01]: You also.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, 35% entertain man.
43:49
[SPEAKER_02]: That's what it is.
43:51
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, they go eight and nine or seven and ten or something like that And the division's not in the cards.
43:57
[SPEAKER_02]: Then there's gonna be plenty more sleeping changes and that organization.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think then just talking about management more and but I agree
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, people are already calling for Bemo to be labeled as a boss.
44:10
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, which I mean, it's early guys, you know, it is extremely extremely early for that.
44:16
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, he just got drafted last year.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We understand the frustrations with, oh yeah, it's more important, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like we understand it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Todd is, Todd is frustrated, it seems like.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Todd's frustrated, I'm sure the higher up you go in the management, even into ownership they're frustrated because they're like, why did we,
44:33
[SPEAKER_00]: you know, this is a second round pick and we can't even get him on the football field, right?
44:37
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, you know that he's talented enough to be able to compete at this level.
44:40
[SPEAKER_00]: We know he's athletic enough to be able to compete at this level, but he just can't stay healthy.
44:45
[SPEAKER_00]: It's the same frustrations that we all have, right?
44:48
[SPEAKER_00]: So until that happens, until we are able to see him on an actual field, it's going to be early to say that.
44:55
[SPEAKER_00]: Now, if we get through this year and we're through two years where he hasn't played, let's say, you know, the majority of the season more than half of
45:03
[SPEAKER_00]: Then you can start really wrinkling it out.
45:05
[SPEAKER_00]: It's like, okay, well, maybe it is time to move on.
45:07
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, it's the same thing that they're doing with Chris Brasswell right now, like he, they're going to give him a shot here in your three if that's not.
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[SPEAKER_00]: going to be it, then it's going to be time to move on.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And they mean, Braswell might not even get that shot, right?
45:18
[SPEAKER_00]: So Bimo, I think Will, Braswell has had ample opportunities because he has been on the field.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And he hasn't been able to do it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So that you can label as a particular bus at this point, but with Bimo, I think we got to tamper our expectations for right now, until we are able to see him healthy for an extended period of time.
45:35
[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, I'd spoke on the Kenny Moore thing earlier.
45:38
[SPEAKER_00]: I think that wouldn't be a bad option for
45:43
[SPEAKER_00]: He, I think he led the league in an interceptions one year for the cold.
45:47
[SPEAKER_00]: So that's a guy you would like to have there as a depth piece, but the books did just go out and sign somebody else yesterday in parity.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So whether or not that it as an option for them or something that they've looked at.
45:59
[SPEAKER_00]: And it's basically, but I don't think that that is a direction that they're looking to go.
46:04
[SPEAKER_01]: This is our email saying, can't wait to listen to Ronde Barber and John Grootin in the booth.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm pretty intrigued by that as well.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, it's going to be fun to see what Grootin is chopping up.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, he seems like he's setting up a different kind of creative way of how it is going to sound, but he is amped to be back in the booth.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We got to speak with him last week and run to Barber as Ronde Barber.
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[SPEAKER_01]: As we all know, Buck's legend, the great way he does as well on his hand.
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[SPEAKER_01]: been having a good day out there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We spoke on him a little bit ago.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
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46:48
[SPEAKER_01]: And then this is coming from Greg.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Special teams is worth watching all prizes.
46:52
[SPEAKER_01]: I agree with you, Greg.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They were beyond pathetic last year.
46:55
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, no, it was a trotace.
46:57
[SPEAKER_01]: It was not pretty.
46:58
[SPEAKER_01]: It was ugly.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And that's got to be a way better product.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Danny Smith.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They brought in from Pittsburgh.
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[SPEAKER_01]: the big gum chore very loud it's is the loudest coach out there without a doubt but he's got those guys working and there's a lot of special team's periods added into this training camp this year as much needed you got some starter like starter I've seen some starters out there getting some work in like I'm talking about like offensive and defensive starters and there's a lot of them so
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[SPEAKER_01]: they're making sure to put a big emphasis on that product being better because if you look at some other teams that make it deeper into the postseason certainly like the Seattle Seahawks, they had one of the best special team's units and the league, you know, and sometimes you get distracted that the special teams that doesn't matter.
47:39
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, that matters.
47:41
[SPEAKER_01]: And I understand you want to have a good kicker.
47:43
[SPEAKER_01]: You have that with McLaughlin and you know, punner has always been an up and down.
47:48
[SPEAKER_01]: situation for you in Tampa, but other things, Punner turn kick return, your coverage, Punner turn coverage like those things have not been the prettiest and it's got to be fixed.
47:56
[SPEAKER_01]: So hopefully Danny Smith and the box can fix that this season.
48:02
[SPEAKER_00]: I think that's a quick, like an area where there's going to be a complete one 80 on this team.
48:06
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, I, obviously, the Danny Smith thing we talked to with Ted Hurson, ours was going to be with him.
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[SPEAKER_00]: How he's going to be involved on special team specifically as a gunner getting down the field.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then of course, the off season acquisition of Miles Killabrew as well.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So this team, I believe, can take a complete 180 in terms of, you know, coverage, things that nature being able to flip the football field.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So those things should, but well, for the buck and years moving in the
48:35
[SPEAKER_01]: River, do you get to stay with us a little bit longer or do you think if it depends on how much longer you're going, I would probably have to go.
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