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Mental Health Matters Renew Your Mind, Renew Your Life - EP-014- Freedom from Addiction · Mental Health Matters - Overcomers.tv

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  Speaker 2: Well, welcome to another episode of Mental Health Matters. Okay,
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  Speaker 2: Rick Quevedo Cody Cuvedo on with us today from Desert
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  Speaker 2: View Mind. Desert View dot com is the website, right
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  Speaker 3: Good to see you.
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  Speaker 2: This episode fourteen, Today's addiction Recovery. As I mentioned to
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  Speaker 2: you guys earlier, I celebrated twenty five years clean today
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  Speaker 2: from crack cigarettes alcohol that almost killed me. So I
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  Speaker 2: promise Jesus, I'll spen the rest of my life telling
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  Speaker 2: the whole world about it if you helped me overcome addictions.
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  Speaker 2: So what's your take on addictions? They come in many
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  Speaker 2: shape size forms. Rick maybe, then Cody?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, Well for strutter, amen, amen, that congratulations. Uh do
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  Speaker 4: recovery into being reborn, so they may do that. And
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  Speaker 4: the work that you're doing so addiction, boy, what a
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  Speaker 4: trap that can be, right, uh uh, I don't even
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  Speaker 4: think a lot of times people realize, you know, where
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  Speaker 4: they're going with it. I had an interesting conversation with
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  Speaker 4: a loved one. This wasn't necessarily about drugs or alcohol,
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  Speaker 4: but just meeting someone on social media and it didn't
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  Speaker 4: seem you know, inappropriate or bad or anything. But when
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  Speaker 4: I was trying to explain this person, that's how it starts,
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  Speaker 4: just like addiction, you know, just just little stand little
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  Speaker 4: tiny things, you know, and it just keeps really really
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  Speaker 4: nan and before you know it, you're in.
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  Speaker 3: And you can't get out.
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  Speaker 4: And uh, those are those unfortunate things that we don't
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  Speaker 4: see happening pretty quick. But The good news is is
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  Speaker 4: you know that you know, with God we can get
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  Speaker 4: out of these things.
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  Speaker 3: Think done so good.
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  Speaker 5: I agree in you know pastor check you said it
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  Speaker 5: well that addiction coms form, right. I think oftentimes we
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  Speaker 5: think addiction is just drugs or alcohol or but really
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  Speaker 5: like there can be food addictions, there can be addiction
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  Speaker 5: to like even adrenaline junkies. You know, we term it
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  Speaker 5: adrenaline junkie, but really it's a it's an addiction to.
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  Speaker 6: Get your endorphins rushing.
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  Speaker 5: And so there's a lot of different forms of addiction
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  Speaker 5: that I don't think we necessarily talk about a lot.
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  Speaker 5: But the reality is that addiction is addiction. And as
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  Speaker 5: Rick was saying, oftentimes you don't know you're there, Like
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  Speaker 5: you don't realize it's it's happening until it's already too late.
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  Speaker 5: For me, I didn't think I had a problem with
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  Speaker 5: alcohol until I had gotten off of it for a
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  Speaker 5: little bit. And then it started out with one glass
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  Speaker 5: of wine at dinner, and then two weeks later I'm
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  Speaker 5: drinking almost a whole bottle of Tito's night realizing like, okay, yeah,
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  Speaker 5: maybe there is something to this and I need to
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  Speaker 5: investigate this and look into this because you don't.
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  Speaker 6: Really realize it.
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  Speaker 5: And sometimes we often we can also use culture or
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  Speaker 5: groups as excuses, you know, like growing up on one
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  Speaker 5: of the sides of my family, alcohol use was pretty common.
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  Speaker 5: We wouldn't say that they were alcoholics, but they would
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  Speaker 5: drink every day and they couldn't go without drinking, right.
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  Speaker 6: It was just part of the quote unquote culture. So
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  Speaker 6: I think that's something that needs to be addressed too.
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  Speaker 5: Is that just because something is culturally normal or perceived
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  Speaker 5: to be normal, doesn't necessarily mean that it's a good thing.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a good point. And that's why mental health matters.
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  Speaker 2: Kind of a spinoff fun black Lives Matter, Blue lives Matter,
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  Speaker 2: All lives matter. Well, all that came because somebody's mental
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  Speaker 2: health wasn't seeing something right, so we just backed up
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  Speaker 2: the bus. How we feel about things two things it matters.
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  Speaker 2: And I've heard it said, I forget which preacher. When
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  Speaker 2: I get to heaven, I'm going to find out. But
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  Speaker 2: he said, from ear to ear, that's your six inches
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  Speaker 2: of real estate. You know, you got everybody has six
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  Speaker 2: inches of real estate, and it's your head. What we
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  Speaker 2: let rent space in your head? I mean there's all
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  Speaker 2: these phrases, and that's why we decided to do this
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  Speaker 2: podcast aka television show Mental Health Matters Renew your Mind,
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  Speaker 2: Renew Your Life that comes from Romans twelve. And back
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  Speaker 2: to your point, Cody and Rick, it's like, you know,
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  Speaker 2: I don't know if it's a lie or just a
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  Speaker 2: flesh or the emotions, but we think we can handle stuff.
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  Speaker 2: And there's peer pressure. That's a real thing. You know.
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  Speaker 2: Try this. I grew up in the eighties Ronald Reagan
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  Speaker 2: was president. Nancy Reagan had this campaign, just Say No
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  Speaker 2: to Drugs, and my brother, you know, he was a
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  Speaker 2: wise guy. He'd say, yeah, when somebody asked to share
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  Speaker 2: some of your drugs, just say no. That was his
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  Speaker 2: spin on just say no to drugs when he's not
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  Speaker 2: going to share his drugs, you know. But anyway, but
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  Speaker 2: the party, it's like, try this, and you know, it's
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  Speaker 2: it's amazing how slippery the slope is. And again we
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  Speaker 2: deceive ourselves thinking I got this and let's let alone.
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  Speaker 2: Let's just bring up fentanyl for a minute. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: I think there was one hundred and ten thousand overdose
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  Speaker 2: deaths documented that we know of just in the United States,
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  Speaker 2: Like last year, and I'll guarantee probably the majority of
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  Speaker 2: them thought they could handle what they were taking. There
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  Speaker 2: might have been a couple that were kind of maybe
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  Speaker 2: borderline suicidal. They were masking so much pain they could
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  Speaker 2: probably care less that they maybe pat you know, overdose.
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  Speaker 2: You know, they didn't leave a note, but we don't
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  Speaker 2: know what was in their mind when they took too much.
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  Speaker 2: But I'm sure probably most of them were accidental overdoses. So
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  Speaker 2: this addiction thing is probably one of the biggest holes
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  Speaker 2: in the boat as far as humanity is concerned.
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  Speaker 4: Rick, back to you, Yeah, as you were saying that
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  Speaker 4: that the bit noo, I was thinking all the years,
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  Speaker 4: you know, we've seen drug after drug, something bigger, something
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  Speaker 4: you know, more improvement, uh, something more scarier. It continues
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  Speaker 4: to happen just when we think it's not getting worse.
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  Speaker 4: But the bottom line is going back to all this is,
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  Speaker 4: you know, those of us who use, it's because something's missing.
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  Speaker 4: It's something we're not feeling, something right about ourselves, or
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  Speaker 4: something's missing from our life, those type of things. And
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  Speaker 4: when you get something a substance that makes you feel,
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  Speaker 4: you know, all the things that you've been missing. Man,
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  Speaker 4: that's it, and for sometimes it's it's a sudden addiction,
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  Speaker 4: it's an instant, you know, connection for you, and and
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  Speaker 4: and you don't want to stop using. You don't want
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  Speaker 4: to feel the stuff that you were feeling me for
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  Speaker 4: and so you know, the man it turns into.
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  Speaker 3: About the high.
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  Speaker 4: But still the underlying issue is always is you know
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  Speaker 4: what don't I want to feel?
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  Speaker 3: What am I not feeling? It that we tend to avoiding.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, I agree with that as well. And you know,
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  Speaker 6: as you were talking, one of the things that I
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  Speaker 6: was thinking about is.
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  Speaker 5: You know, just some of the excuses that we give
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  Speaker 5: sometimes when we're when we're in addiction or when we're
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  Speaker 5: battling it. You know, I've said this before. I've heard
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  Speaker 5: other people say it that, well, I do it to
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  Speaker 5: numb the pain. I do it to escape reality. I
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  Speaker 5: do it too because it helped me keep my mind straight,
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  Speaker 5: which again is just another form of escapism.
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  Speaker 6: Or you know, I've even heard to say like, well,
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  Speaker 6: it's it's just fun. I don't have a problem. It's
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  Speaker 6: just fun. Well, so it's going on a roller coaster,
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  Speaker 6: but that's not something I'm gonna do every minute of
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  Speaker 6: every day.
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  Speaker 7: So I think that you know, addressing some of those
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  Speaker 7: things too, and and and really walking with somebody through that,
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  Speaker 7: because I think all of us can attest to the
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  Speaker 7: fact that addictions not always pretty.
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  Speaker 5: You know, werecoming it, It's not always pretty, and sometimes
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  Speaker 5: it's a process.
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  Speaker 3: You know.
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  Speaker 5: I would I would love to say that once you
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  Speaker 5: realize that it's a struggle and you combat it, it's
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  Speaker 5: just done.
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  Speaker 6: But that's not the case, right for some people.
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  Speaker 5: Addiction is a lifelong walk, a lifelong commitment to abstaining
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  Speaker 5: and not even putting yourself in those situations, right, Like,
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  Speaker 5: that's that's that's how I relapsed because I thought I
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  Speaker 5: could handle it.
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  Speaker 6: It was like, oh, no, I'm good, I'm I'm I
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  Speaker 6: can handle this. I've grown, I'm stronger.
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  Speaker 5: And then again within two weeks, I'm drinking almost a
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  Speaker 5: bottle of ketos.
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  Speaker 6: Right and hiding it. And you know, so I.
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  Speaker 5: Think that that's one of the things we need to
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  Speaker 5: realize too, is that it's not just a one and
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  Speaker 5: done thing.
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  Speaker 6: It's a it's a lifelong pursuit of sobriety. And that's
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  Speaker 6: where the importance of mental.
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  Speaker 5: Health and community and accountability comes in because we all
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  Speaker 5: need it.
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  Speaker 2: Right, So even behind me. What's rebroadcasting an Overcomers TV
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  Speaker 2: is the Miami Rescue Mention and it's a homeless shelter
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  Speaker 2: in Miami, over one hundred years old, and seventy five
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  Speaker 2: percent of the folks there probably had addiction issues. Big
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  Speaker 2: hold about another twenty five percent maybe you know mental health.
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  Speaker 2: There are a handful of people whose house burnt down
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  Speaker 2: and they have nowhere to go. And but most people
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  Speaker 2: have family, but because the burnt relationships that addiction brings,
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  Speaker 2: you know, burnt, just nowhere to go and they're homeless,
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  Speaker 2: and we see that and again all we'll just back
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  Speaker 2: up the bus. We could say where we are right
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  Speaker 2: now today is a lump sum total of every decision
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  Speaker 2: we've made. Good, bad, are indifferent, and most people have
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  Speaker 2: confidence in every decision they make. Us. While we're talking
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  Speaker 2: free to text. That but we're just a couple of,
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  Speaker 2: Verses john ten Ten jesus, said and again we talk
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  Speaker 2: about The, bible and a lot of people have turned
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  Speaker 2: off on. Religion But jesus is a, Person he was a,
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  Speaker 2: teacher he did, die he did rise. Again he set
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  Speaker 2: the record straight on all the religions in the. WORLD
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  Speaker 2: i might, add but he, said the thief only comes
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  Speaker 2: to steal and to kill and, destroy AND i have
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  Speaker 2: come that they may have, life life more. Abundantly the
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  Speaker 2: thief here in this case is the. Devil so anything
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  Speaker 2: with addictions that is stealing and killing and destroying your,
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  Speaker 2: life your, family your, world it's from the. Enemy And
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  Speaker 2: jesus came to give you, life life. Abundantly so he's
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  Speaker 2: definitely pro. Life he's also pro choice because he gave
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  Speaker 2: us Free will you, know choose, CAREFULLY i might add
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  Speaker 2: back to You.
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  Speaker 4: Rick, Yeah and one of the things that you, know
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  Speaker 4: as we talked about all these things is during the
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  Speaker 4: use of, addiction your brain, changes right he brain, disease
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  Speaker 4: and then your brain cheap changes as. Well and the
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  Speaker 4: piece that you just, said the spiritual, piece is the
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  Speaker 4: other piece that so many people.
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  Speaker 3: Miss we go through the physical, addiction we go through.
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  Speaker 4: You, know losing our home and you, know not eating,
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  Speaker 4: properly nutrition and our, body all these things changing and
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  Speaker 4: even going through the emotional, stuff but the spiritual stuff
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  Speaker 4: that we're missing and that we're losing and we're just
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  Speaker 4: staying In satan's you, know playground so to. Speak you,
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  Speaker 4: know very, scary very, scary and definitely hard to separate
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  Speaker 4: any kind of reality from getting, better finding our, health
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  Speaker 4: knowing the.
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  Speaker 3: Difference between you, know which way to.
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  Speaker 4: Go AND i think that that's what we see a
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  Speaker 4: lot is is you, know people are very torn love For,
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  Speaker 4: god love for you, know and want to get better
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  Speaker 4: and doesn't know where that fits exactly because they're afraid
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  Speaker 4: that they're being judged And god's not going to forgive
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  Speaker 4: them for, Yeah.
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  Speaker 6: Curt and, ULTIMATELY i think that's where the church can do, better.
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  Speaker 5: You, know in terms of creating that space of for
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  Speaker 5: people to come to work through this process with, them
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  Speaker 5: because ultimately that's what the church is here to. Do
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  Speaker 5: we're here to build one another, up encourage one, another
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  Speaker 5: and admonish one.
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  Speaker 6: Another and the word, admonish for those who don't, know it.
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  Speaker 5: Means it means to hold somebody accountable in a way
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  Speaker 5: that is. Building building also builds up, Right so we're
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  Speaker 5: not just putting people under our thumb of, like, oh,
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  Speaker 5: hey you came to church, drunk we're casting you. Out let's,
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  Speaker 5: know we're going to address the, issue but first we
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  Speaker 5: need to like are you? Safe what's going? On like
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  Speaker 5: how can we help partner with? You how can we
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  Speaker 5: help take care of? You and then the true discipleship process.
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  Speaker 5: HAPPENS i think the disconnect for mental health sometimes is
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  Speaker 5: that we focus too much on the practical and also
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  Speaker 5: not enough on the.
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  Speaker 6: Spiritual.
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  Speaker 5: Right it's as a pastor in a, CHAPLAIN i can't
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  Speaker 5: say that not everybody Needs. JESUS i feel LIKE i
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  Speaker 5: can't say that, that, oh we can just address the
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  Speaker 5: practical side of things but not address the spiritual side of,
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  Speaker 5: things because those of us who are enlightened to this
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  Speaker 5: and understand, it understand that addiction is.
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  Speaker 6: Spiritual. RIGHT i think Of efgian. Six we wrestle not.
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  Speaker 5: Against flesh and, blood but against, principalities against spiritual, forces against,
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  Speaker 5: rulers against, authorities the cosmic powers over this present.
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  Speaker 6: Darkness so there's way more to.
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  Speaker 5: Right there's this other side of life THAT i think
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  Speaker 5: that we need to. Address and sometimes within the church
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  Speaker 5: we don't address the, practical it's only the. Spiritual SO
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  Speaker 5: i think we need to really bring into account.
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  Speaker 6: Both sides of the playing. Film yeah right, There afjian six.
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  Speaker 2: Twelve, Yeah. Yeah we do not wrestle against flesh and,
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  Speaker 2: blood but against, principalities against, powers against the rulers of
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  Speaker 2: darkness of this, age against spiritual hosts of wickedness aka
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  Speaker 2: demons in the heavenly. Places, therefore take up the whole
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  Speaker 2: armor Of god that you may be able to withstand
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  Speaker 2: in the evil, day having done all to. Stand the
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  Speaker 2: next verse starts with the word, stand you, know and
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  Speaker 2: he goes into the whole armor Of. God you, know that's.
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  Speaker 2: Amazing and then there's even you know One corinthine, six
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  Speaker 2: which talks about food for the, stomach and even sexual
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  Speaker 2: immorality will cover that in another you, know, sex drugs
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  Speaker 2: and rock and roll almost kill. ME i, mean in
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  Speaker 2: my late eighteen, TWENTIES i wanted to be a drummer
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  Speaker 2: rock and, roll AND i never partied WHILE i was,
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  Speaker 2: playing because getting wasted kind of affects your physical. Coordination
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  Speaker 2: but when the when the jam session was. Over then we,
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  Speaker 2: partied SO i had had, boundaries you, know and just
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  Speaker 2: smoke the, pot drink a little. Beer and then before
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  Speaker 2: going to The Air, force somebody draw out some lines
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  Speaker 2: and then, WOW i did a, line And i'm, like,
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  Speaker 2: WOW i compete. Dirty the next MORNING i might not
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  Speaker 2: go into The Air, force got in somehow got out
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  Speaker 2: of The Air force three years, later thinking, Okay i'm
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  Speaker 2: gonna make my MARK mtv nineteen ninety and you, KNOW
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  Speaker 2: i was chasing a record deal and a cousin showed
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  Speaker 2: me free based. Cocaine, WELL i just smoked a little,
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  Speaker 2: pot drank a little. Beer we tried mushrooms because the
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  Speaker 2: Movie doors came, out and little by little kept trying
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  Speaker 2: something until you find that drug of choice is what
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  Speaker 2: we call. It but that was wrapped around strippers and
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  Speaker 2: pornography and everything. Else and, man from twenty three to
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  Speaker 2: thirty years, OLD i was down to one hundred and
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  Speaker 2: forty one, pounds AND i had to cry out To,
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  Speaker 2: jesus not BECAUSE i wanted to heaven WHEN i. Went
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  Speaker 2: and most people talk About, Jesus, Oh heaven WHEN i,
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  Speaker 2: Die heaven WHEN i, die because the weather is so
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  Speaker 2: much better than. HELL i don't like the weather in.
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  Speaker 2: HELL i like the weather in heaven probably seventy, degrees golden.
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  Speaker 2: Streets all. That it has nothing to do with hanging
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  Speaker 2: out With jesus and Worshiping. God it's just about. Location so,
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  Speaker 2: anyway little mini sermon, HERE i needed a deliver And
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  Speaker 2: i'm not talking, dominoes, RIGHT i need to like help.
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  Speaker 2: Now And bible says whoever calls upon the name of
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  Speaker 2: The lord will be, saved saved from, stupid saved from a.
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  Speaker 2: Situation you, know you walk through the value shadow of
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  Speaker 2: death and he's gonna walk you. Out you gotta follow.
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  Speaker 2: Him as a mini sermon, there rick back to.
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  Speaker 8: You, yeah surrendering to this, right surrendering to our addictions
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  Speaker 8: and finding that trust with The lord as we seek his,
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  Speaker 8: guidance as we rely on him to.
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  Speaker 4: Releases from this this enslavement that we've we've got upon.
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  Speaker 3: It it's really hard to do.
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  Speaker 4: Everything you just describe all those, things all that crazy
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  Speaker 4: life that we put ourselves. Into you, know it's not
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  Speaker 4: easy to get away. From some people just do. It
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  Speaker 4: some people put all their faith in.
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  Speaker 3: The lord and they can just walk away from, it.
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  Speaker 4: And others it's it's you, know we've talked about, months you, know,
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  Speaker 4: years it's a, lifetime so it's different for. Everybody and
• 18:02
  Speaker 4: sometimes it's, therapy sometimes it's. Medication sometimes it's you, know
• 18:07
  Speaker 4: in their spiritual, journey a number of different things to
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  Speaker 4: get to The, Lord cody.
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  Speaker 5: And to no longer for what you, said Pastor chuck
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  Speaker 5: not to you, know extend on the mini. Sermon but
• 18:23
  Speaker 5: the reality is is THAT i think that's sometimes something
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  Speaker 5: wrong With christianity is we're looking more at the destination
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  Speaker 5: than the present.
• 18:30
  Speaker 3: Moment you, know we we.
• 18:32
  Speaker 5: Think that coming To jesus is simply our entrance to
• 18:35
  Speaker 5: get into the pearly.
• 18:38
  Speaker 6: Gates you, know we look at the destination of heaven
• 18:41
  Speaker 6: rather than walking with The lord. Now and.
• 18:46
  Speaker 5: You, KNOW i have an issue with that only because
• 18:50
  Speaker 5: if we're only looking at the, destination the destination isn't
• 18:53
  Speaker 5: going to change.
• 18:53
  Speaker 6: You it's a, relationship.
• 18:56
  Speaker 5: Right it's it's the relationships we have right, now whether that's,
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  Speaker 5: spiritual whether that's even in our own lives with our,
• 19:03
  Speaker 5: spouses with our, friends with our, parents with a small
• 19:06
  Speaker 5: group you, know, colleagues. Whoever it, is the relationships you
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  Speaker 5: have have influence over. You it goes back to that,
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  Speaker 5: saying you, know show me your, Friends i'll.
• 19:14
  Speaker 6: Show you your.
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  Speaker 5: Future But jesus even, SAID i believe it, was And
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  Speaker 5: i'm probably gonna be, wrong But jesus, Said i'm thinking
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  Speaker 5: in The book Of. Matthew so don't worry about. Tomorrow
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  Speaker 5: tomorrow brings its own troubles, today.
• 19:29
  Speaker 6: Because sufficient are the troubles for. Today so if we
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  Speaker 6: can focus on our walk.
• 19:34
  Speaker 9: Every single, day every single, moment walking with The, lord
• 19:38
  Speaker 9: that's when the true transformation comes in the true relational
• 19:42
  Speaker 9: aspect of what it means that.
• 19:45
  Speaker 6: We will be.
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  Speaker 5: Changed but when we're only looking at the, destination we're
• 19:50
  Speaker 5: missing the moments that he's with us right.
• 19:52
  Speaker 6: Now we're missing.
• 19:53
  Speaker 5: The greater implications that he did come to give us
• 19:58
  Speaker 5: life and give us. Amundantly he wasn't talking about just
• 20:00
  Speaker 5: getting into heaven In John. Tantana he's talking about now
• 20:03
  Speaker 5: being able to walk in, freedom being able to walk in,
• 20:05
  Speaker 5: peace the fruits of the, spirit, love, joy, peace, patients,
• 20:09
  Speaker 5: Kind it's, goodness, gentleness, faithfulness and self. Control right we
• 20:12
  Speaker 5: have access to all that right now when we have
• 20:16
  Speaker 5: that relationship with him and we walk with him and
• 20:19
  Speaker 5: we have this greater sense of community in the body Of.
• 20:22
  Speaker 5: Christ BUT i think sometimes In christianity we're so focused
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  Speaker 5: on the destination rather than the one who gets us.
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  Speaker 2: There, yeah, amen good. Word a couple of. THINGS i
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  Speaker 2: know you're a pastor and. CHAPLAIN i am, too and
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: we're not, perfect but you were. Right it Was matthew.
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: Six it's the one chapter where he, says do not
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: worry four times in one, chapter and we. Do and
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: that's another mental health. Issue there's a it's okay to
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: be concerned about. Things no one's, saying you, know don't
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: care about. ANYTHING i, mean there's a balance where you're
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: worrying anxiety and that'll call we used to grow up
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: saying that'll drive you to, drink you, know or drug
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: or in celebrate, recovery we talk about, hurt hang ups and,
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: habits and those habits usually are designed to help you feel,
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: better to mask the. Pain and, AGAIN i do believe
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: there's a and back to even your drinking point with the.
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: Wine you, KNOW i know people that can have a
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: glass of, wine no problem for, me, man just a
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: beer or, two And i'm already a little, sarcastic AND
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: i know that's not a spiritual. Gift god's still working
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: on me with my. Sarcasm but you, KNOW i get
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: a couple of, Beers i'll tell you HOW i really,
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: feel and that'll cause a problem or, fight even you,
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: know being loose, lipped just because my inhibitions would drop
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: after a couple of. Beers and WHEN i quit, Everything i'm,
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: like everybody's, like you, know you can still have a.
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: Beer i'm, LIKE i, KNOW i. Can't they have non
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: alcoholic beers now zero points zero Heinekens Stella's coronas you,
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: know after twenty five, YEARS i can have a beer
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: with wings and it's not gonna make me want a real.
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: One but you know the flavor of, beer you know.
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: Anyway AND i just say this because sometimes legalism In
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: christianity can and really turned people off. Too so, actually
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: an admonition in The bible, says drink a little wine
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: for your stomach. INFIRMINGS i think It's paul Telling. Timothy
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: So jesus turned water into, wine and Then baptists turned
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: wine Into welch's grape, juice you. Know so so nothing
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  Speaker 2: wrong with a glass of. Wine but, again if it's
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: going to lead to bad, behavior loose lips, problems then
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: you might want to just amputate it or fast from
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: it rick back to.
• 22:26
  Speaker 4: You, yeah we go through this with you, know we
• 22:31
  Speaker 4: do group and you know we hear folks struggling all the.
• 22:35
  Speaker 3: Time and the.
• 22:36
  Speaker 4: Things that we talked about in group is is you,
• 22:39
  Speaker 4: know keeping it real and that confession and you know
• 22:43
  Speaker 4: this goes along with prayer and confession and scripture meditation
• 22:50
  Speaker 4: and you know for having community support whether you know
• 22:55
  Speaker 4: it be you, know in the church or. Not but
• 22:58
  Speaker 4: this is how we resist. Temptation this is how we
• 23:01
  Speaker 4: trust In god's. Grace, yeah it's just not, easy not.
• 23:08
  Speaker 4: Easy and for those that are able to overcome, them, man.
• 23:13
  Speaker 4: Congratulations for those that are listening that are, struggling you
• 23:17
  Speaker 4: can do. This so and just real, quick this was
• 23:21
  Speaker 4: on my pod my thing this, morning my devotion this.
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  Speaker 4: MORNING i thought of, you Checked isaiah forty thirty. One
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  Speaker 4: but those who hope in The lord will renew their
• 23:31
  Speaker 4: strength and will soar on rings like.
• 23:33
  Speaker 3: Eagles.
• 23:34
  Speaker 4: Eagles they will run and grow, weird they will ask
• 23:36
  Speaker 4: to walk and not be.
• 23:37
  Speaker 3: Faint and for some REASON i just thought of you
• 23:40
  Speaker 3: and which will will come and your. Milestone so that's.
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: Great thank you. Brother, yeah let me show that verse
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: and Then cody the preacher, chaplain it's a great. Verse
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: but those who wait on The, Lord and that's kind
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: of where we get the word waiter or service at
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: the at the. Restaurants they they're they're waiting on. Us
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: so we're Serving. God it's not just sitting around building a.
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: Dune those who wait on The lord shall renew their.
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: Strength shall man with wings like eagles shall, run not
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: be where he shall, walk and not. Faint that's good. Stuff, Cody, uh,
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah and that you, know.
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  Speaker 5: That goes hand in hand with WHAT i WAS i
• 24:19
  Speaker 5: was talking about, earlier is that as we partner with
• 24:22
  Speaker 5: with The, lord, right we see the fruits of that
• 24:26
  Speaker 5: from the very beginning When god created the, heavens the,
• 24:28
  Speaker 5: earth the, world and, everything and it created. Humanity he
• 24:31
  Speaker 5: created humanity to partner with him and taking care of his.
• 24:35
  Speaker 5: Creation and it's still like that. Today The lord partners
• 24:39
  Speaker 5: with us when it comes to building the church and
• 24:41
  Speaker 5: spreading the good news and preaching the.
• 24:44
  Speaker 3: Word.
• 24:44
  Speaker 5: Right The holy spirits there to partner with us and
• 24:47
  Speaker 5: encourage us and empower.
• 24:48
  Speaker 6: Us to do.
• 24:49
  Speaker 5: So and when we were talking about, earlier pastor when
• 24:53
  Speaker 5: you were talking about you, know having a glass of
• 24:55
  Speaker 5: wine that you know there's there's really nothing wrong with
• 24:57
  Speaker 5: it as long as you can do it within reasonable.
• 24:59
  Speaker 5: Means one of the things that came up for me
• 25:01
  Speaker 5: Was romans, fourteen where it talks about never laying a
• 25:04
  Speaker 5: stumbling block.
• 25:05
  Speaker 6: Before your brother's and. Sisters.
• 25:07
  Speaker 5: Right so if for the believers watching, this the mature,
• 25:11
  Speaker 5: believers it's important that we make sure that as we're
• 25:14
  Speaker 5: discipling as one in certain, situations we're aware of. That
• 25:18
  Speaker 5: because If i'm discipling somebody WHO i know is in
• 25:20
  Speaker 5: active recovery.
• 25:22
  Speaker 6: And may still struggle with.
• 25:23
  Speaker 5: Alcohol if let's SAY i wasn't And i'm having a
• 25:27
  Speaker 5: beer with in front of, them, right that's putting a
• 25:29
  Speaker 5: stumbling block before before my, brother before my.
• 25:31
  Speaker 6: Sister SO i think that as as mature, believers we
• 25:35
  Speaker 6: also have to read the room and.
• 25:38
  Speaker 5: Recognize, Like, okay there's nothing wrong with me having a
• 25:41
  Speaker 5: glass of wine BECAUSE i can handle. It, however by doing,
• 25:44
  Speaker 5: this AM i putting a stumbling block before those around?
• 25:47
  Speaker 5: Me AND i think those are questions that sometimes we
• 25:51
  Speaker 5: don't ask me to look, for you, Know Like i've
• 25:53
  Speaker 5: been a part of men's groups where we'll go to
• 25:56
  Speaker 5: a restaurant and.
• 25:56
  Speaker 6: We'll eat and you, know they'll have some guys will
• 25:58
  Speaker 6: have beers and stuff like.
• 25:59
  Speaker 5: That it doesn't BUT i always ask myself that question
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  Speaker 5: of what about the other guys in the room who aren't,
• 26:04
  Speaker 5: Drinking is.
• 26:05
  Speaker 6: That some of the walk for?
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: Them, yeah it's a great Chapter romans. Fourteen it starts
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: off with receive one who's weak in the. Faith so,
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: yeah again there's Baby christians out, there and he's even bringing,
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: up you, know disputing on whether you can eat meat or.
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: Not and there's vegetarians and vegans in the, world and
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: you know they have a conviction about eating meat even,
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: so and that was you, know even the topic of.
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: That SO i know the enemy also likes to get
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: us to fight and argue and quarrel amongst. Ourselves and you,
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: know wisdom from above is first, peaceable willing to. Yield
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: it's full of good. Fruits you, Know james gives us that.
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: Admonition that's WHY i love our show and what you guys.
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: Do and we have a couple of minutes left and
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: want to just end with how people can support you.
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  Speaker 2: Jobs you deserve a. Paycheck it's a forty maybe fifty
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  Speaker 2: Off when you go, home you're thinking about some of
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  Speaker 2: the people you're dealing. With even when you're off and
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  Speaker 2: with your, family are still probably thinking about this. Stuff
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: but you guys need to be prayed for. Supported, rick
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  Speaker 2: maybe you can talk about that And, cody how can
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  Speaker 2: people partner with you?
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  Speaker 3: Guys, yeah well you said.
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  Speaker 4: It we could, always you, know always always prayer for
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  Speaker 4: what we do and for our clients and volunteers sometimes
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  Speaker 5: Me the number one is, prayer, right, like don't place
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  Speaker 5: your mind just on the things of this, world but
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  Speaker 5: the things of.
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  Speaker 6: Heaven and prayer IS i think the most important thing
• 28:04
  Speaker 6: we can.
• 28:04
  Speaker 5: Do we see In matthew twenty, five the people who've,
• 28:09
  Speaker 5: served those who are in, prison who get through to
• 28:11
  Speaker 5: The hungary and gave water to the, thirsty clothed the.
• 28:13
  Speaker 5: Naked you, know they did all these good, things and
• 28:18
  Speaker 5: we're so blessed it does agree to have that opportunity
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  Speaker 5: to do those. Things, Right But i'm constantly being reminded
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  Speaker 5: that the clothes we give them won't get them in the.
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  Speaker 5: Heaven you, know the water we give them isn't going
• 28:30
  Speaker 5: to save. Them the meals we provide aren't going to save.
• 28:32
  Speaker 5: Them It's jesus. Right so and one of the greatest
• 28:37
  Speaker 5: PRAYERS i asked for is that not only will we
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  Speaker 5: have the opportunity to, serve but the opportunity to, witness
• 28:42
  Speaker 5: the opportunity to introduce people to the real healer and
• 28:46
  Speaker 5: partner with them in that journey as.
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  Speaker 11: Well.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, Amen and there's no shame in getting counseling and
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: someone to talk. To codey's talking about the men's, group you,
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: know iron sharpening. Iron but just typed in safety in,
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: multitude and it reminds me these two Verses proverbs eleven,
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: fourteen where there is no counsel that people, fall but
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: in the multitude of counselor there is. Safety so if
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: you hang out with Other christians who have the mind
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: Of christ and looking at The word Of, god you
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: probably can get better advice than somebody who's in the
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: world running with the. Devil But proverbs twenty four to.
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: Six by wise counsel you'll wage your own, war and
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: a multitude of counselors there is. Safety so kings would
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: go to. Battle President, trump he's got a lot of
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: people around him giving him advice and he makes the final.
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: Decision but he's got, counselors you. Know and, again if
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: it's spiritual, warfare you need spiritual, counselors, pastors, mentors counselors
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: like you, guys and you. Know SO i just can't
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: give you guys enough kudos for saying, HERE i Am
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: lord send. Me and, again being in this, Ministry i'm
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: glad we're partners AND i love what you guys are.
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: Doing so with, that the most effective thing we could
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: do is pray with and for one. Another co do
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  Speaker 2: you want to lead?
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  Speaker 5: Us?
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  Speaker 10: Absolutely Heavenly, FATHER i thank you for the opportunity to
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  Speaker 10: come together, today nor just to talk about your, word
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  Speaker 10: to talk about who you are and not only what you've,
• 30:15
  Speaker 10: done but what you're doing right. Now and what you
• 30:17
  Speaker 10: will continue to do in the future for those who
• 30:20
  Speaker 10: cry out to.
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  Speaker 5: You, Lord AND i thank you for this opportunity to
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  Speaker 5: be here At Desert you to go out and to
• 30:26
  Speaker 5: serve the. Community AND i pray for opportunities not just to,
• 30:29
  Speaker 5: serve but to witness in the name Of jesus and
• 30:33
  Speaker 5: WHAT i.
• 30:33
  Speaker 6: Pray that there would be.
• 30:34
  Speaker 5: More people who would partner in this, work that even
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  Speaker 5: within the, Churches, lord we'd have a greater understanding of
• 30:41
  Speaker 5: not just the, spiritual but the, practical and within mental,
• 30:44
  Speaker 5: health not just the practical but also the, spiritual that
• 30:47
  Speaker 5: we would have the full revelation of how to support,
• 30:50
  Speaker 5: people how to love people as we love. You your
• 30:53
  Speaker 5: word says in First john four that we cannot love
• 30:57
  Speaker 5: you who we don't see if we don't love those
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  Speaker 5: who we can.
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  Speaker 3: See So, LORD i just.
• 31:01
  Speaker 5: Pray for more opportunities to support, people to love, people
• 31:05
  Speaker 5: to do it in the name Of jesus and in
• 31:07
  Speaker 5: the character and his, likeness and that we would be
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  Speaker 5: empowered by your Holy.
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  Speaker 6: Spirit And, LORD i thank you for the opportunity to
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  Speaker 6: be on the.
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  Speaker 11: SHOW i pray that you would Bless Pastor chuck and
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  Speaker 11: all of his efforts And OVERCOMERS. Tv is they really
• 31:21
  Speaker 11: have some of the hard, conversations the conversations that need
• 31:23
  Speaker 11: to be. Heard AND i pray that this broadcast would
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  Speaker 11: go out and it would be heard by those who
• 31:28
  Speaker 11: need to hear, it and that you would you would
• 31:32
  Speaker 11: continue to give us the opportunity within this, community and
• 31:35
  Speaker 11: that it would grow into other communities as we seek
• 31:39
  Speaker 11: to do your work and partner with you this.
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  Speaker 5: Side of heaven until we ultimately are joined with you
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  Speaker 5: in glory. Forever AND i pray this In jesus.
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  Speaker 2: Name, Amen, Amen amen covered well capastor, yeah, amen and
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: amen to that well there it Is mental Health. Matters Rick,
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