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Speaker 1: Is the good report tonight, I should give you a warning,
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Speaker 1: Malcolm Turnbull says, do not watch this show. I'll explain
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Speaker 1: what's driving this deluded man. Also tonight counter terrorism police
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Speaker 1: take over the investigation of the murder of a British
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Speaker 1: politician and the question that this disturbing anti Israel protest
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Speaker 1: that refused to answer after giving evidence of the anti
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Speaker 1: Semitism Royal Commission and the polls do they prove that
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Speaker 1: being a sexist actually makes Anthony Albanezy more popular?
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Speaker 2: The Japanese Prime Minister brought a melon, got a couple
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Speaker 2: of melons, got a couple of melons.
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Speaker 1: She brought to as you do. But first, this American
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Speaker 1: war with Iran, it's become beyond bizarre. There's now new
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Speaker 1: revelations about a man Israeli plot for a regime change,
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Speaker 1: plotting to install a former Iranian president who doesn't even
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Speaker 1: believe the Holocaust happened. It's crazy stuff and I will
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Speaker 1: get to it. But also today there's now Donald Trump
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Speaker 1: all over the shop saying it is going to do
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Speaker 1: what he condemned Iran for doing. He said he's now
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Speaker 1: going to force tankers and other ships using the Straitor
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Speaker 1: for Moors to pay millions of dollars for US protection.
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Speaker 1: Now this is, of course, I'm principled, and a real
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Speaker 1: threat to Australia. If you want to frighten the insight
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Speaker 1: into chaotic decision making into why this war has been
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Speaker 1: going badly, here it all is. And I will start
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Speaker 1: with that latest development from Trump, who's flipped flopping on
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Speaker 1: this on again, off again war is making America look
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Speaker 1: weak and unprincipled. The US President has now scrapped his
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Speaker 1: so called cease fire with Iran. His memorandum of understanding
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Speaker 1: that was supposed to last for sixty days hasn't even
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Speaker 1: made it halfway. So Trump is now right back to
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Speaker 1: where he was with around a month ago by agreeing
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Speaker 1: to a cease fire just when he had his boot
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Speaker 1: on Iran's neck. He is now back to no peace,
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Speaker 1: the US Navy again blockade in the straight of the moors,
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Speaker 1: and missiles and drones flying everywhere. The cease fire has collapsed.
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Speaker 1: And that's because Iran never could be trusted. As I
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Speaker 1: said from the start, it was that obvious. Of course,
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Speaker 1: Iran wouldn't give up his weapons grade uranium, and of
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Speaker 1: course it wouldn't let it take US go through the
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Speaker 1: Strait of Moors without paying a protection money. Trump was
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Speaker 1: just wasting precious time to think, thinking it would letting
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Speaker 1: Iran string him along for reasons. He struggled yesterday to explain, We're.
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Speaker 3: Going to hit him very hard tonight, and we're going
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Speaker 3: to hit them right tomorrow. And there's not a damn
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Speaker 3: thing they can do about it. They have nothing, They
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Speaker 3: have nothing going other than they have big mouths.
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Speaker 1: What was the MoU that your negotiators right back? Was
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Speaker 1: that our side saddle MoU? Was that built the fall apart?
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Speaker 4: It was built a test.
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Speaker 1: It was a test.
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Speaker 3: We didn't know. It didn't look memorandum of understanding. When
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Speaker 3: you're dealing with sleeves, bags don't mean much.
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Speaker 1: But yesterday around Pool, Trump's chain yet again failed his
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Speaker 1: test and attacked two more ships which wouldn't pay up,
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Speaker 1: so Trump ordered yet more bombings to punish. The regime
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Speaker 1: still limited though, although getting more intense by the day,
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Speaker 1: and for the first time, the US used Ukrainian style
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Speaker 1: sea drones in battle to attack he rounds naval port
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Speaker 1: in bunder Abbas on the straight. It sent three unmanned
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Speaker 1: boats packed with explosives into a port to blow up
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Speaker 1: a maintenance space with submarines and ships. This is the
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Speaker 1: new warfare that should be pledging ourselves to as well.
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Speaker 1: But more controversially, more hypocritically, Trump didn't just reimpose that
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Speaker 1: blockade of all Iranian oil shipments from the Strait of
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Speaker 1: a musta against star of Iran's regime of cash worse,
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Speaker 1: worse worse, Trump said other ships trying to bring oil,
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Speaker 1: gas or cargo through the Strait would have to pay
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Speaker 1: the United States for protection from Iranian missiles and drones.
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Speaker 3: Will become the guardian of the Strait. Maybe we'll go
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Speaker 3: to the guardian Angel of the Strait and we should
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Speaker 3: be reimbursed for that.
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Speaker 1: And Trump later posted that it charged twenty percent of
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Speaker 1: the value of the cargo under US protection, which means
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Speaker 1: that a fully laiden super tanket would have to pay
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Speaker 1: more than forty five million dollars Australian to go through
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Speaker 1: the Strait. Paid to Trump, now, Iraan was charging ships
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Speaker 1: just a fraction of that before, not forty five million,
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Speaker 1: three million to get fired at. And then the US
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Speaker 1: was saying, wow, that kind of charge by Iran, that
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Speaker 1: is illegal. It's an international waterway.
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Speaker 5: No country is allowed to charge tolls or fees on
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Speaker 5: an international waterway.
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Speaker 6: That's existing international law.
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Speaker 1: But now here's Trump doing exactly the same thing, but
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Speaker 1: even more. And it's a very dangerous president For Australia,
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Speaker 1: we are critically dependent on sea trade, and not just
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Speaker 1: through the Strait of a mus but the Straits of
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Speaker 1: Malacca between Malaysia, Singapore and Indonesia, and also through the
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Speaker 1: South China Sea. What if China decided okay, it's good
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Speaker 1: enough for Trump, we'll also start charging ships passing through.
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Speaker 1: And that's why the Opposition and the government were today
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Speaker 1: on a unity ticket warning against what Trump had just done.
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Speaker 7: The Prime Minister has been clear about this. We want
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Speaker 7: to see a resumption of the ceasefire and for the
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Speaker 7: Straits of Homuz to be open and for those waterways,
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Speaker 7: those international waterways to be open under international law.
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Speaker 5: It's absolutely, absolutely essential that these waterways remain free from
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Speaker 5: any sort of toll system of any one country dictating
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Speaker 5: the terms of passage, because that would set a dangerous
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Speaker 5: precedence right across the world.
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Speaker 1: But there's more to this than Donald Trump breaking a
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Speaker 1: principle which really matters to us. His whole approach fighting
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Speaker 1: like this, like I said, on again, off again war,
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Speaker 1: stop start fighting still with one hand tied behind his back.
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Speaker 1: It's not in all out bombing or anything like that.
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Speaker 1: It just projects an image of the of the United
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Speaker 1: States that doesn't have the guts or the resolve to
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Speaker 1: fight to win. Russia will take note, China will take note,
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Speaker 1: and the world will be less safe for it. But
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Speaker 1: to the other revelations over the last twenty four hours,
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Speaker 1: I mean truly extraordinary news because this bizarre war we
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Speaker 1: now know started even more bizarrely within Israeli plot. There
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Speaker 1: was first reported in fact in broad terms a month ago,
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Speaker 1: but has in the past twenty four hours been fleshed
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Speaker 1: out in lurid detail, shocking detail by both in New
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Speaker 1: York Times and in Israel by the Haaretz newspaper. And
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Speaker 1: it goes like this Israeli promise of Ben Mende Yahoo,
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Speaker 1: he got a bit arrogant with Israel's battlefield successors, that
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Speaker 1: hesbla phone plot and all that. Suddenly he thought he
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Speaker 1: could even topple the Uranian terrorist regime, replace the religious
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Speaker 1: extremists under Iran Supreme Leader Ali Khamani, and the plan
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Speaker 1: would include getting the Kurdish minority in Iran's northwest and
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Speaker 1: in military camps in Iraq to stage an armed uprising
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Speaker 1: as if a militia of an estimated initial sixteen thousand
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Speaker 1: fights could topple the heavily armed country of ninety million. Now,
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Speaker 1: when Donald Trump's team heard of this plan, you know,
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Speaker 1: they said it was rubbish, complete fantasy, and as we
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Speaker 1: now know, the Kurds, of course have not risen up.
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Speaker 1: But the wildest part of the plan was to assassinate
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Speaker 1: he around supreme leader company, which Israel did indeed do
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Speaker 1: on day one of this war, and replace him with
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Speaker 1: former Iranian president marmeld Amadinajad, a populace who empower was
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Speaker 1: a hard owner, who actually denied the Holocaust, who got
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Speaker 1: around working on a nuclear bomb, but then he lost
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Speaker 1: his job, got blocked from running again. Sound on the
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Speaker 1: regime thought it was corrupt, thought it should scrap its
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Speaker 1: plans for a nuclear bomb now in exchange for more
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Speaker 1: helpful ordinary Iranians. And that made that you know who
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Speaker 1: think Amadinajad he's our man. Israel could make him around
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Speaker 1: his new leader plot here some collaborators there armed uprising,
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Speaker 1: other ethnic minorities, maybe many of netne who's top military
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Speaker 1: and security efficients thought this plan was nuts. It was
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Speaker 1: called Operation Puss in Boots, crazy, they thought never worked.
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Speaker 1: But net Who pushed on and two years ago sent
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Speaker 1: his then head of Mossad, David Barnier Barnia to meet
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Speaker 1: Amadinjad at a supposed academic conference in Budapest, a conference
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Speaker 1: on global warming, where, of course you do get shyst
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Speaker 1: to this meeting all the time, so that was perfect
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Speaker 1: cover for their meeting. So last February Day, wonder the war,
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Speaker 1: Israel didn't just assassinate coming A. It also bombed Amadinajad's
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Speaker 1: own compound, not to kill him, although it seems he
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Speaker 1: might have been wounded, but to kill the military guarding
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Speaker 1: him and let him escape in a car driven by
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Speaker 1: agents from Israel's Mossad security service. Details then get a
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Speaker 1: bit sketchy. It seems that not even Amadinjad then thought
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Speaker 1: the Israeli plan would work. He thought it was crock
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Speaker 1: and he backed out. Operation Puss in Boots was blown.
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Speaker 1: There are now reports that I'm didn't chat is under
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Speaker 1: house arrests in Iran, although he was actually filmed last
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Speaker 1: week marching in the morning procession for the assassinated comin
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Speaker 1: a now, of course, you know, there is a very
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Speaker 1: small chance that news of this plot is anti Uranian disinformation,
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Speaker 1: you know, to so distrust among the leadership there. I
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Speaker 1: don't know, but it doesn't sound like it. And if
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Speaker 1: this really is the kind of wishful thinking that started
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Speaker 1: this war, it's no wonder that it's turned out so
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Speaker 1: very differently to what Nenniehun and Trump had hoped. They
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Speaker 1: don't get me wrong. You know, Iran has been a
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Speaker 1: huge danger to not just this are O, but to
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Speaker 1: the world. If it was allowed to develop the nuclear bomb,
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Speaker 1: and it was maybe weeks from doing so, what hell
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Speaker 1: could it cause it to be stopped? And it must
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Speaker 1: be still. But don't you wish that deadly work of
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Speaker 1: stopping it was done by people who at least could
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Speaker 1: think straight. I was joined earlier by Sean Spicer, Donald
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Speaker 1: Trump's first White House spokesman. Sean Spicser always great to
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Speaker 1: see you. Why is Donald Trump charging what the US
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Speaker 1: said was an illegal charge when he ran did it?
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Speaker 6: Well?
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Speaker 4: Look, his justification is for what the US has done
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Speaker 4: to keep the straight open. My guest, to be honest
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Speaker 4: with you, Andrew, is that this is a negotiating tactic.
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Speaker 4: You saw his posture in NATO. I believe this is
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Speaker 4: a way of trying to bring the other European NATO
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Speaker 4: countries into this fight to help deal with keeping the
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Speaker 4: Straight of hornor moves open and safe for commercials shipping.
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Speaker 4: So I believe ultimately is a negotiation tactic because as
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Speaker 4: you point out, I mean against the international law the
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Speaker 4: sea to charge tolls for open right away. So I
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Speaker 4: believe this is ultimately a tactic that we'll try to
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Speaker 4: get other countries into this gain of protecting and maintaining
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Speaker 4: the straits, the and open navigation.
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Speaker 1: Now, but the wider question, I actually understand it. You know,
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Speaker 1: why why is it always America that must do with
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Speaker 1: the defending when other countries get the benefit of it.
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Speaker 1: But the wider point he is, Shawn, that I explored
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Speaker 1: last night, why is it that Donald Trump is sort
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Speaker 1: of on again, off again with this war soft tough soft,
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Speaker 1: Because to me, it is just suggesting that the resolve
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Speaker 1: of the US is not great.
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Speaker 4: So look, here's here's the biggest problem I think that
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Speaker 4: exists with Iran, which is there's no single entity that
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Speaker 4: actually speaks for Iran. So you talk about the people
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Speaker 4: in office right now, the speaker, for example, and then
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Speaker 4: you have the IERGC and other proxies that aren't agreeing
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Speaker 4: necessarily to what has worked out. The problem is is
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Speaker 4: that multiple things can be true at the same time,
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Speaker 4: So you can have a deal with one group that
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Speaker 4: another group may not agree to, and therefore they're going
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Speaker 4: to create tension and not allow that ceasefire in this
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Speaker 4: case to go through. So the problem is, I think
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Speaker 4: the US has the best intentions. I've talked to some
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Speaker 4: of the highest levels of the US government who believe
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Speaker 4: that the new moderate leadership that has come in to
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Speaker 4: replace the Iatola and others that were killed understood the
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Speaker 4: economic consequences. That may be very well true, but I
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Speaker 4: think there's also a reality which is they will never
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Speaker 4: ever agree and whatever they agree to in some kind
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Speaker 4: of deal, they will never maintain. So look, I think
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Speaker 4: this may have taken us a while to get to,
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Speaker 4: but ultimately there is only one alternative that will yield anything,
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Speaker 4: which is to bomb them to make sure that we
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Speaker 4: maintain and open straight through forces that we control. As
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Speaker 4: the President maintained today, that's the only thing that will
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Speaker 4: ever work. I mean, whether a RAN agrees to a
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Speaker 4: deal that they uphold for a week or two weeks
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Speaker 4: or a month whatever. They will never ultimately be on
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Speaker 4: board for a long period of time. And so it
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Speaker 4: may have taken us a while, some fits and starts
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Speaker 4: to get to this place, but I believe this is
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Speaker 4: ultimately we're going to end up anyway.
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Speaker 1: Look, I tend to agree with you. I mean, the
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Speaker 1: circle of moderates Aertaly relatively moderate. There's still crazy as
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Speaker 1: a cut snake. It's just that the IGC is even
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Speaker 1: worse and they actually control the guns, and that's where
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Speaker 1: the US is caught. But meanwhile, you know, pushing Donald
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Speaker 1: Trump in a lot of this has been public support
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Speaker 1: in America, right, rising prices and all that is hurting him.
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Speaker 1: Where is the public on this war?
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Speaker 4: It's a great question that you're asking, right, So I
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Speaker 4: get coffee every morning, Andrew, and the place that I
14:53
Speaker 4: walk to is gas station, and so I monitor the
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Speaker 4: price of gas every day, and for like two weeks
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Speaker 4: it was going down, down, down, And I thought, politically
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Speaker 4: this is great because the gas price are the most
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Speaker 4: visible things that American voters see. So whether you're buying
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Speaker 4: gas every day or not, you still see it. So
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Speaker 4: that you could see this thing moving in the right direction.
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Speaker 4: The price of gas doesn't just affect you and your
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Speaker 4: your budget, but obviously it has an inflationary and impactful
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Speaker 4: nature on all goods and services that we purchased here
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Speaker 4: in America.
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Speaker 8: So that was a good thing.
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Speaker 4: I went away on navy duty for almost two weeks
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Speaker 4: and I come back and the price was going up
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Speaker 4: because of the instability in the region. I think that's
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Speaker 4: a big problem. So the issue of Iran may not
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Speaker 4: be the thing that we see every morning on our
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Speaker 4: morning cable news or broadcast news here in America, but
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Speaker 4: it's having an effect on us. And I think the
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Speaker 4: problem is is that it had started to move in
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Speaker 4: a positive direction politically, where the prices were going down.
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Speaker 4: The issue of Iran wasn't topical every day, and now
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Speaker 4: it's going to be again. So you're going to see
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Speaker 4: the issue injected back into our daily news cycle number
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Speaker 4: one and number two. More importantly, the price at the
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Speaker 4: pump is going back up pretty drastically too, so it's
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Speaker 4: fifteen to twenty cents a gallon more than it was
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Speaker 4: two weeks ago. This is a problem for the Republican
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Speaker 4: Party as we now get into the like the last
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Speaker 4: three months before the midterm elections and.
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Speaker 1: Then the pressure goes on there. That's why I thought
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Speaker 1: the ceasefire idea was wrong because it wasted a month
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Speaker 1: or two. Originally it was going to about sixty days
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Speaker 1: kind of exactly. But yeah, but you were skeptical. I
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Speaker 1: was skeptical, you know I was.
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Speaker 4: But at some point you have to show people your math.
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Speaker 4: That was my old elementary school teacher says, show me.
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Speaker 4: And I think the American people wanted to see you try.
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Speaker 4: They wanted to see the president and the Vice president
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Speaker 4: Marco Rubio, Steve Whitcoff, Jared Kushner try to get a deal.
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Speaker 4: I think they cut the best possible deal, but they
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Speaker 4: needed to know that you were trying to do that
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Speaker 4: and put an end to the hostilities.
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Speaker 1: Well, you mentioned Marco Rubio. There in fact that most
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Speaker 1: of the negotiating for the deal was done by Jadie Vance,
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Speaker 1: the vice president now Rubio Secretary State JD. Vance. They're
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Speaker 1: both also rivals to take over Donald Trump when his
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Speaker 1: term ends, and I know you're you know, you've got
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Speaker 1: good relations with both. You don't want to play favorites here,
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Speaker 1: but they've got very different takes on this, haven't they
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Speaker 1: a nuance, very different nuances. Jedi Vance much more skeptical
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Speaker 1: about the war, much more keen on signing a peace deal.
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Speaker 1: Marco Rubia much more skeptical about the peace deal. How
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Speaker 1: are they those two guys playing this, how's it reflecting
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Speaker 1: on their chances to take over from Trump?
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Speaker 4: Well, first of all, let me just set the table
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Speaker 4: for you. Right now, is jd Vance's nomination like he
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Speaker 4: is the vice president. Not only that, he's the chairman
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Speaker 4: of the Republican National Finance Committee, So first time that's
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Speaker 4: happening history. So he holds all the cards. There's only
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Speaker 4: two things that can event jd Vance from becoming the
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Speaker 4: Republican nominee. One jd Vance saying I don't want to
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Speaker 4: become the Republican nominee, or two Donald Trump saying you
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Speaker 4: will not become the Republican nominee. And because of that,
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Speaker 4: Marco Rubio is in sort of a holding pattern. The
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Speaker 4: position that he has as Secretary of State prohibits him
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Speaker 4: from establishing a political operation or engaging in political activity
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Speaker 4: because of the way US law works, So he has
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Speaker 4: to wait his turn. If jd Vance passes and then
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Speaker 4: Trumpell points or annoints Mark Rubio. That's great, but Rubio
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Speaker 4: really has to wait and to decide either what Vance
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Speaker 4: does or what Trump does with respect to the war.
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Speaker 4: They're both playing kind of cards that they can't control.
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Speaker 4: So jd Vance. Because he's the vice president, he owns
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Speaker 4: the policy. He can't sort of say, well, I kind
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Speaker 4: of agree or I don't kind of agree. As vice president,
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Speaker 4: your number one job is to be the cheerleader in chief.
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Speaker 1: Well, I think this is going to be fascinating. I
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Speaker 1: must say I've got more confidence in Mark Rubio's view
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Speaker 1: of the world, but there's a long way to play out.
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Speaker 1: Sean Sposeth, thank you so much, indeed for your time.
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Speaker 9: You're at to see you next week.
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Speaker 1: Andrew after the break the frightening silence of a pro
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Speaker 1: Palestinian protest leader of the Royal Commission into Anti Semitism,
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Speaker 1: she refuses to answer if the murder of twelve hundred
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Speaker 1: Jews was wrong. I have to admit this Royal Commission
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Speaker 1: into Antisemitism being a bit disappointing, like it's questioning last
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Speaker 1: week of the disgraceful anti Israel bias of the ABC.
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Speaker 1: I mean, I thought it was weak. They didn't have
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Speaker 1: many examples, no hard questions. Yet I am still hearing
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Speaker 1: some truly shocking things from this inquiry. Like yesterday an
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Speaker 1: anti Israel student leader gave evidence. You know, one of
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Speaker 1: these stupid smart people that you get particularly at universities,
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Speaker 1: lots of theoretical learning, no real wisdom, plus of course
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Speaker 1: a dangerous desire to bully the rest of us into
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Speaker 1: living their bizarre dreams. It was this woman, Yasmin Johnson,
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Speaker 1: the co convener for Students of Palestine and a member
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Speaker 1: of the Marxist Socialist Alternative, which is dedicated to smashing
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Speaker 1: capitalism a court form of freedom in the market, smash it.
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Speaker 1: In her evidence to the Royal Commission, she defended chance
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Speaker 1: like from the river to the sea, Palestine will be
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Speaker 1: free and globalize the Intafada chants which to me clearly
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Speaker 1: demand the destruction of Israel and violently. In fact, this Johnson,
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Speaker 1: claiming to be Jewish, actually said violence could be necessary
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Speaker 1: for causes that she endorsed, of course, and repeated and
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Speaker 1: refused to tell journals afterwards if that included the violence
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Speaker 1: of Hamas terrorists in the October seventh slaughter, the murder
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Speaker 1: of twelve hundred Israelis even children and teenagers at a
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Speaker 1: danced that rapes the beheadings. Just look at her smirk
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Speaker 1: of contempt at being asked such a trivial question.
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Speaker 10: A lot of movements against injustice, and particularly against colonization
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Speaker 10: have involved both peaceful civil disobedience as well as some
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Speaker 10: violent methods.
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Speaker 1: Do you think the how much attack of a cold
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Speaker 1: twenty twenty three was a legitimate use of people by us?
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Speaker 1: And that is just months after fifteen more people were
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Speaker 1: slaughtered here at a Jewish festival Bondai Beach. Another sign,
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Speaker 1: of course, that Marxism really is the natural home of
21:36
Speaker 1: people who are, in my opinion, proto tyrants. Makes me
21:41
Speaker 1: wonder how many pro Palastini protests in our universities using
21:44
Speaker 1: the Palastinine issue to excuse and license their inner bully.
21:50
Speaker 1: I mean, like the students that the Inquiry heard of
21:52
Speaker 1: today who repeatedly invaded the Melbourne University office of this
21:57
Speaker 1: Jewish professor, Stephen Prower, taking over his room, in their
22:00
Speaker 1: MASHs and their mock terrorist clothing kefeus and or clearly
22:04
Speaker 1: not caring how much they seemed like bullets and thugs
22:07
Speaker 1: to the poor man.
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Speaker 11: I don't know what their intentions were But when a
22:12
Speaker 11: Jewish person with some experience of what happens in Israel
22:14
Speaker 11: sees a Math person, you could only see their eyes.
22:18
Speaker 11: The rest of them are covered with a kafa. This
22:20
Speaker 11: is a classic terrorist pose. This was only one year
22:26
Speaker 11: after the atrocities in Israel, and so I was very perturbed.
22:33
Speaker 11: I had no idea at that stage if it was
22:36
Speaker 11: a protest, if it was a terrorist attack.
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Speaker 1: In fact, some protests is even painted on a sign
22:42
Speaker 1: at Melbourne University, death to Israel, death to the USA,
22:46
Speaker 1: death to Stephen Prower, and the university even want you
22:50
Speaker 1: tell him that it been threatened, like business life had
22:53
Speaker 1: been threatened. And you know what always stuns me about
22:55
Speaker 1: this sort of stuff, particularly from the left, the people
22:59
Speaker 1: who did all that. They have such a monstrous self regard,
23:04
Speaker 1: sense of entitlement that they feel they are bullying you
23:07
Speaker 1: for your own good. And that's what has made their
23:10
Speaker 1: type so very, very dangerous throughout history. You know, the
23:14
Speaker 1: more they bully and hurt you, the more noble they feel.
23:18
Speaker 1: You saw that of the French Revolution, the Cambodian Genocide,
23:22
Speaker 1: the Chinese Communist Revolution, the Bolshevik Revolution. I wonder that
23:29
Speaker 1: so many Jews tell me they no longer feel safe
23:31
Speaker 1: in Australia. In fact, one friend has just had it
23:35
Speaker 1: and moved just a few days ago to go and
23:38
Speaker 1: live in Israel instead, celebrating with his wife in a
23:41
Speaker 1: ceremony at Bengurian Airport with a new Israeli ID. He
23:45
Speaker 1: is David Adler, former head of the u Strange Jewish Association,
23:48
Speaker 1: and he joins me. Now, David, great to see you again.
23:53
Speaker 1: You were actually born in Melbourne. Why did you move? Andrew?
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Speaker 9: Thank you for your comments. And I've passed, I guess
24:04
Speaker 9: the ultimate no confidence motion in Australia. Unfortunately, I was
24:10
Speaker 9: born in Melbourne. As you say, I've lived all of
24:13
Speaker 9: my life in Australia other than going away for holidays,
24:18
Speaker 9: apart from the last few days. And it's not the
24:22
Speaker 9: same country. And I have officially emigrated from Australia and
24:29
Speaker 9: done what's called alia to Israel, which is a Hebrew
24:34
Speaker 9: term for elevation, and it's regarded as an elevation when
24:37
Speaker 9: you come to Israel from anywhere else. For a combination
24:42
Speaker 9: of both pull and push factors. Israel is the most
24:46
Speaker 9: remarkable country. It's got a depth of history and culture
24:51
Speaker 9: that fuses with the high tech and modernity like nowhere else.
24:57
Speaker 9: But also, unfortunately, there's been, particularly over the last few years,
25:03
Speaker 9: a build up of negativity in Australia, a decline measured
25:09
Speaker 9: by many many parameters, and of course the anti Israel
25:13
Speaker 9: extremism and anti Semitism which has exploded as well, and
25:18
Speaker 9: all these things combined has led to our decision. So
25:22
Speaker 9: we've made it. We're selling up, moving our contribution from
25:26
Speaker 9: Australia to Israel.
25:29
Speaker 1: Now, a lot of Jews tell me that they don't
25:31
Speaker 1: feel safe in Australia. You're not that safe in Israel
25:36
Speaker 1: in a sense too. I mean you've got a country's
25:38
Speaker 1: pointing firing missiles at Israel as well. It's essentially been
25:43
Speaker 1: at war for years now. Even so, then what is
25:47
Speaker 1: the difference between Israel and Australia on that front in
25:50
Speaker 1: your sense of feeling safe, secure and at home.
25:58
Speaker 9: Well, Andrew, I can tell you that it takes about
26:01
Speaker 9: ten or fifteen minutes to be aware of the difference.
26:05
Speaker 9: As soon as you start walking around, you see Israeli
26:10
Speaker 9: flags everywhere. There is a strong sense of identity and purpose.
26:15
Speaker 9: And the other thing that you realize very quickly is
26:18
Speaker 9: that the people are generally happy, optimistic, friendly on a
26:23
Speaker 9: level that may have existed in Australia years ago but
26:27
Speaker 9: seems to have deteriorated significantly. There is a big sense
26:32
Speaker 9: of community that adds to safety. I don't worry at
26:36
Speaker 9: all about the external threats. We've got a lot of
26:42
Speaker 9: confidence in the IDF and every Israeli premises has to
26:49
Speaker 9: have protection and security. Every home has a safe room.
26:56
Speaker 9: The border police and the IDF to a magnificent job,
27:01
Speaker 9: and I can tell you just walking around, I feel
27:05
Speaker 9: much more comfortable and actually safer in Israel than I
27:09
Speaker 9: did in Australia.
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Speaker 1: It's one of the differences, David, that you might be
27:16
Speaker 1: threatened there by war or whatever and here by anti
27:20
Speaker 1: Semitism and the insults and abuse and all that at
27:24
Speaker 1: universities wherever. But the difference is that you over there
27:28
Speaker 1: you are surrounded by people who have your back, and
27:31
Speaker 1: here you can't be sure.
27:35
Speaker 9: Look one hundred percent, and everyone's aware that. Within the
27:39
Speaker 9: last few days, the very good and effective Israeli Ambassador
27:44
Speaker 9: to Australia, Hillel Newman, actually called out Australia as having
27:50
Speaker 9: irrational and an order of magnitude of hate that he
27:56
Speaker 9: hadn't experienced elsewhere. Our trip here was through the UAE,
28:01
Speaker 9: through Abudhabi, and I was wearing my keyper and around
28:07
Speaker 9: me were devout Muslims dressed in their long cloaks, with
28:13
Speaker 9: their headgear and their beards. None of them insulted me,
28:17
Speaker 9: none of them gave me dirty looks. And I would add,
28:23
Speaker 9: in supporting what the ambassador said, I also felt more
28:27
Speaker 9: comfortable in the UAE than in Australia nowadays. So I
28:34
Speaker 9: thought about it a lot. It's not an easy decision,
28:37
Speaker 9: and I frankly refused to be the proverbial frog in
28:41
Speaker 9: the hot water. I can see what's happening in Australia.
28:45
Speaker 9: Some people say that Australia is approaching a tipping point.
28:49
Speaker 9: My assessment is that it has reached and passed the
28:52
Speaker 9: tipping point on a variety of measures, so that that
28:56
Speaker 9: has all come together into our decision.
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Speaker 1: Well, David had all the best to you over there.
29:03
Speaker 1: We miss there on the front lines here. Thank you
29:05
Speaker 1: so much for your time, and all the best to
29:07
Speaker 1: you and your wife. Thank you after the break sex
29:12
Speaker 1: of you scandals. More Aboriginal children pay in the Northern
29:17
Speaker 1: Territory as activists defend the Stolen Generation myth. There's a
29:25
Speaker 1: reason I keep coming back to the Stolen Generation's myth,
29:28
Speaker 1: the claim that generations of children were stolen from their
29:31
Speaker 1: families just because they were Aboriginal. And the reason is this,
29:35
Speaker 1: it keeps destroying the lives of Aboriginal children today. More
29:40
Speaker 1: examples this month in the Northern Territory. Now be warned,
29:44
Speaker 1: some of what I'll tell you will be distressing, but
29:47
Speaker 1: I do hope it'll make you demand change as well.
29:51
Speaker 1: No to activists, Yes, the children. In April, we had
29:55
Speaker 1: the alleged murder of a five year old girl, Come
29:57
Speaker 1: and Joe you little baby in Alice Springs, allegedly taken
30:00
Speaker 1: from a home and killed by Jefferson Lewis. The girl's
30:03
Speaker 1: father was in jail. The girl's home was dirty with
30:07
Speaker 1: lots of empty booze bottles, and inquiri has been called
30:10
Speaker 1: into by this child was not removed even after protection
30:13
Speaker 1: authorities received reportedly six child protection notifications. Why not removed?
30:21
Speaker 1: Seems to me the Solen Generation smith again played a
30:24
Speaker 1: deadly role. Now it has led activists and politicians to
30:28
Speaker 1: claim we must not remove Aboriginal children from Aboriginal parents
30:32
Speaker 1: and cares not remove them from their culture unless there's
30:36
Speaker 1: absolutely no choice. Well, an auditary government said will change that.
30:43
Speaker 1: Istraft laws now say that a child must be removed
30:46
Speaker 1: if there is a significant and likely risk of harm
30:48
Speaker 1: to the child, and as far as practicable, will be
30:51
Speaker 1: placed in close proximity to their family. But safety first,
30:56
Speaker 1: not culture. Now that's trigger huge criticism from the Aboriginal
31:01
Speaker 1: industry and last week the Northern Territories Children's Commissioner, Shalina Musk,
31:06
Speaker 1: who identifies as Aboriginal, resigned in protests saying she could
31:09
Speaker 1: not agree to watering down the kinship principle keeping Aboriginal
31:13
Speaker 1: children in Aboriginal care. But this month has brought fresh horrors,
31:19
Speaker 1: fresh evidence of an epidemic of child sex abuse to
31:22
Speaker 1: some Aboriginal communities, with too many children not rescued from it.
31:28
Speaker 1: For instance, last week, a thirty three year old man
31:32
Speaker 1: charged with adducting a child and having sex with a
31:34
Speaker 1: fourteen year old Aboriginal girl, a child known to child
31:38
Speaker 1: protection authorities also charged the man with sexual intercourse with
31:44
Speaker 1: a child under Ten weeks earlier, a man pleading guilty
31:48
Speaker 1: to raping a five year old boy. Joining me now
31:51
Speaker 1: is SKA New's Northern Australia correspondent Matt Cunningham. Matt, thank
31:55
Speaker 1: you so much for your time. Why are so many
31:58
Speaker 1: Aboriginal organizations against reforms which put a child's safety as
32:03
Speaker 1: number one and not the so called culture of their care.
32:09
Speaker 12: Well, I'd love to know the answer to that question, Andrew,
32:12
Speaker 12: but I honestly couldn't give you one. I mean, I'm
32:14
Speaker 12: not sure how anyone can be against a change to
32:18
Speaker 12: legislation that says that when we're dealing with a child,
32:21
Speaker 12: any child who's at risk, the number one priority needs
32:25
Speaker 12: to be that child's safety. And that is what the
32:29
Speaker 12: government is doing here, creating this universal child placement principle
32:33
Speaker 12: and saying no other considerations are going to come first
32:37
Speaker 12: in any of these matters. Safety needs to be the
32:39
Speaker 12: number one consideration. Now, the government put this proposed legislation
32:44
Speaker 12: to its Scrutiny Committee. It received one hundred and fifty submissions,
32:48
Speaker 12: one hundred and twenty of those opposed the changes that
32:51
Speaker 12: were being made. Then held hearings on the same issue.
32:55
Speaker 12: And it's interesting because a lot of those organizations you
32:58
Speaker 12: speak about gave events at those committee hearings and they
33:02
Speaker 12: said the same thing. They said, you can't water down
33:04
Speaker 12: the Aboriginal child placement principle and we can't be removing
33:08
Speaker 12: more Aboriginal children from their parents. They offered that as evidence.
33:13
Speaker 12: I'd say it was an opinion. On the back of that,
33:16
Speaker 12: they're now saying the government isn't following the evidence that
33:19
Speaker 12: it received at its scrutiny committee. Well, I thought the
33:23
Speaker 12: most interesting, the most consequential evidence that was given to
33:28
Speaker 12: that committee came and I would say the only real
33:31
Speaker 12: firsthand evidence that that committee heard was from the foster
33:35
Speaker 12: careers who gave evidence, and those foster care has told
33:38
Speaker 12: the committee Andrew that it was not uncommon that Aboriginal
33:43
Speaker 12: children were removed from their families and placed into safe,
33:47
Speaker 12: stable foster homes where they might be for a year,
33:50
Speaker 12: two years, three years, five years, and then during that
33:53
Speaker 12: period those children would be removed from that stable home
33:57
Speaker 12: environment and then placed in situation where, according to the
34:01
Speaker 12: evidence that was given to the committee, they knew that
34:03
Speaker 12: child would be placed again at risk. And many times
34:06
Speaker 12: when there has been that reunification, it has ended in disaster,
34:11
Speaker 12: it has ended in further abuse of that child, or
34:14
Speaker 12: it often ends in that child then returning back to
34:16
Speaker 12: that foster family far more damaged than they were when
34:20
Speaker 12: they went there in the first place.
34:25
Speaker 1: I just get so set when I hear what this
34:28
Speaker 1: sort of stuff Matt. For thirty years or so, I
34:31
Speaker 1: have followed this issue, and it's been going on for
34:35
Speaker 1: so long, so many children betrayed by these ideologues who
34:39
Speaker 1: put Aboriginal culture it's so great, valorize it. You can't
34:43
Speaker 1: admit to anything that might make people think, Wait a minute,
34:46
Speaker 1: Wait a minute, are children safe where you want them
34:49
Speaker 1: in the place where you want them to be? And
34:51
Speaker 1: you get this now, rampant abuse of children in some
34:54
Speaker 1: Aboriginal communities. Why is that not a national scandal? Why
34:58
Speaker 1: are they devoted to you know, let's keep this culture
35:02
Speaker 1: stuff going.
35:04
Speaker 12: Well, it absolutely should be, Andrew. And there's been so
35:08
Speaker 12: many examples, and we've covered them, many of them here
35:12
Speaker 12: over the years. You know, you go back to the
35:15
Speaker 12: Deborah Melville case that we've spoken about so many times before.
35:20
Speaker 12: You talk about the twenty eighteen case and the rape
35:25
Speaker 12: of a two year old girl in Tenant Creek where
35:27
Speaker 12: for a brief period we did get that national focus.
35:30
Speaker 12: And it's worth noting in regards to that case. I
35:32
Speaker 12: noticed you mentioned in your introduction the resignation late last
35:36
Speaker 12: week of the Children's Commissioner Selena Musk. I think it's
35:39
Speaker 12: worth just having a little bit of a look at
35:41
Speaker 12: the history and the change in the way that office
35:45
Speaker 12: has operated in the last few years. Now, if you
35:48
Speaker 12: go back to that case in twenty eighteen of the
35:51
Speaker 12: rape of the two year old girl in Tenant Creek,
35:54
Speaker 12: the Children's commissioner at the time, Colling Winn, she immediately
35:59
Speaker 12: conducted an own initiative investigation.
36:02
Speaker 1: Into what had gone on there.
36:04
Speaker 12: Through that investigation, she discovered that that two year old
36:07
Speaker 12: girl and her siblings had been the subject of fifty
36:10
Speaker 12: two separate notifications to the Child Protection Department before that
36:14
Speaker 12: incident happened. Now, Colin Wynn left that office in some
36:20
Speaker 12: level of controversy in twenty twenty after she was charged
36:23
Speaker 12: with abuse of office, a charge that was subsequently thrown
36:26
Speaker 12: out of the Supreme Court. She would say that the
36:29
Speaker 12: government of the day was trying to get her out
36:31
Speaker 12: of that job. The last own initiative investigation that was
36:34
Speaker 12: done by the Office of the Children's Commissioner in the
36:37
Speaker 12: Northern Territory, certainly the last one that was made public
36:40
Speaker 12: was done by Colin Wynn in July twenty twenty. The
36:44
Speaker 12: Office of the Children's Commissioner has not done or is
36:46
Speaker 12: certainly not made public an own initiative investigation in the
36:51
Speaker 12: six years since and in the interim period back in
36:54
Speaker 12: twenty twenty three, the former Labor government changed the legislation
36:58
Speaker 12: here in the Northern Territory that the Children's Commissioner has
37:02
Speaker 12: to be Aboriginal the government of the day and now
37:06
Speaker 12: I selp go.
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Speaker 1: Look, I can't believe what you're telling me, mate. This
37:13
Speaker 1: is just a stain in Australia. You know we should
37:17
Speaker 1: be I just can't believe this, but you know it
37:20
Speaker 1: explains so much. Matt Cunningham, thank you so much for
37:23
Speaker 1: all your journalism in this area over the years. Thank you.
37:28
Speaker 1: After the break, Malcolm Turbule says, you're making a big
37:31
Speaker 1: mistake watching this because you might hear things like this.
37:33
Speaker 1: It seems to me, but I'll tell you who really
37:35
Speaker 1: is the mistake. Plus did this sexism just make anything?
37:39
Speaker 1: The o an easy our most popular leader. This week's
37:48
Speaker 1: polls were showing a support for One Nation falling the
37:50
Speaker 1: Coalition support rising, but coalitionally and leader Angus Taylor is
37:55
Speaker 1: still cautious about being too aggressive in criticizing One Nation
37:59
Speaker 1: leader Pauline Anson, as was surprisingly clear this morning we
38:04
Speaker 1: listeners on two GB attacked him for last week, saying
38:08
Speaker 1: her economic policies would ruin Australia.
38:11
Speaker 8: My primary focus is on beating labor, let's be clear.
38:13
Speaker 8: And that's what I've been talking to you about for
38:15
Speaker 8: the last few minutes, Ben, and it always will be
38:17
Speaker 8: my primary focus. But I do what I say what
38:20
Speaker 8: I say about One Nation with a heavy heart. Frankly,
38:23
Speaker 8: I say it with a heavy heart.
38:24
Speaker 1: Why.
38:25
Speaker 8: Well, the reason, well, because I know many of the
38:28
Speaker 8: good people I want voting.
38:29
Speaker 5: For us I have.
38:32
Speaker 8: So you're inflicted here I am. I am not conflicted,
38:37
Speaker 8: and I'll tell you why. Because they do not have
38:40
Speaker 8: a plan for the future of this country. That they
38:44
Speaker 8: are a one person show.
38:47
Speaker 1: Joining me Amir Schliff, executive director of the Samuel Griffith Society,
38:51
Speaker 1: and Michael dan Be, former federal labor politician and former
38:54
Speaker 1: Chairman of the Joint Standing Committee on Foreign Affairs, Defense
38:56
Speaker 1: and Trade. Mia here's haying to state to criticize Hanson
39:01
Speaker 1: with a heavy heart. What did you make of that answer?
39:06
Speaker 6: I just thought it was weak. I thought it was
39:07
Speaker 6: a weak answer. Look, if you're going to criticize one nation,
39:10
Speaker 6: then all right, fair enough. But if you're going to
39:12
Speaker 6: take aim, then don't miss I think it's fair enough.
39:15
Speaker 6: If he thinks of one nation's economic policies aren't up
39:18
Speaker 6: to scratch, then he should say that, But then say
39:21
Speaker 6: how the Liberal Party is going to table an alternative policy.
39:24
Speaker 6: I haven't heard anything from the Liberal Party about what
39:27
Speaker 6: they'll do to actually make the economic situation in Australia
39:31
Speaker 6: any better. It seems the only time that we're talking
39:33
Speaker 6: about the Liberal Party is when the Liberal Party is
39:36
Speaker 6: talking about one Nation. And I think that's a huge
39:38
Speaker 6: problem for the Liberal Party at the moment. One Nation
39:41
Speaker 6: pull in Hanson are taking up all the airtime. The
39:45
Speaker 6: Liberal Party isn't tabling any policies, not showing how they'll
39:48
Speaker 6: be any different, and I think that's why they're not
39:50
Speaker 6: really seeing any surge of support towards them.
39:55
Speaker 1: Michael Danby, well different things.
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Speaker 13: Yes, all the person who uses the word angry so
40:03
Speaker 13: many times in his press conferences, angry Taylor. He's just
40:08
Speaker 13: too afraid of losing many ex Liberal voters who are
40:11
Speaker 13: one nation voting for one nation. Now it's a puzzle
40:15
Speaker 13: the ghost party you've identified, though they have no candidates
40:20
Speaker 13: in Victoria, and Comrade Jess Wilson is on forty eight
40:24
Speaker 13: percent compared to the Premier on twenty six so I
40:29
Speaker 13: think he is best to wait till the Victorian election
40:32
Speaker 13: that may save he's hide.
40:37
Speaker 1: But here is the mystery mia that resolve. Poll this
40:41
Speaker 1: week that saw Paul and Hanson's personal supports preferred Prime
40:46
Speaker 1: Minister dropped by eight points, which is massive, saw support
40:51
Speaker 1: for Prime Miise Anthony Albani is he actually jumped by
40:54
Speaker 1: four and that is despite the fact that he just
40:57
Speaker 1: made a sexist full of himself on a podcast which
41:01
Speaker 1: he said he'd like to shag Carly Minogue and made
41:04
Speaker 1: a crash joke about the Japanese Prime Minister and his
41:07
Speaker 1: present to him of a crown melon.
41:10
Speaker 2: Have a look the Japanese Prime minister brought a melon,
41:14
Speaker 2: got a couple of melons, got a couple of melons
41:20
Speaker 2: he brought too.
41:21
Speaker 6: If you do.
41:24
Speaker 1: So me, the question for me to you is does
41:27
Speaker 1: sexistm make Labor leader Benny Hill more electable?
41:32
Speaker 6: No? I don't think so, Andrew. I think there was
41:34
Speaker 6: a few things that play here. First of all, I
41:37
Speaker 6: think with the comments of the prime that he Alm
41:39
Speaker 6: and Easy made on that podcast. A lot of the
41:41
Speaker 6: heat was put in the comments he made about Kylie Minogue, whereas,
41:43
Speaker 6: as you and I discussed in the show last week,
41:46
Speaker 6: the comments that he made towards Japan's prime minister are
41:48
Speaker 6: actually far worse and far more sexist. But a lot
41:51
Speaker 6: of this Australian population, I don't think he heard those comments.
41:54
Speaker 6: Because of mainstream media drummed up these comments about Kylie
41:57
Speaker 6: Minogue that was kind of played off as a prime
42:00
Speaker 6: minister being cheeky, and I think here in Australia we
42:02
Speaker 6: do have a culture that accepts cheekiness for our prime minister,
42:05
Speaker 6: so I think that's one part that played into it.
42:07
Speaker 6: And on the other hand, I think that support that
42:10
Speaker 6: went towards Angus Taylor and Albanisi was less support for
42:14
Speaker 6: those two individuals but more of a result of the
42:16
Speaker 6: decline of support for Pauline Hansen, because I do think
42:19
Speaker 6: she's had a difficult few weeks. I think she's made
42:22
Speaker 6: a few stuff ups and therefore she's seen that support
42:25
Speaker 6: drop and the support's gone elsewhere.
42:29
Speaker 13: Michael, Well, so now we've got a Prime Minister Benny
42:34
Speaker 13: Hill who sort of makes tip jokes like the nineteen
42:38
Speaker 13: seventies British slapstick comedians pathetic. Where are those hypocrites? Gallagher
42:44
Speaker 13: and Wall Feminists strong women actually just mean girls. They
42:49
Speaker 13: should demand that Elbow make a public apology to the
42:52
Speaker 13: Japanese Prime Minister on this. Japan is a serious country.
42:56
Speaker 13: This is such an insult and I don't care whether
42:59
Speaker 13: he's gone up in the all slightly Andrew, this is
43:02
Speaker 13: such a mistake to represent Australia like this to an
43:06
Speaker 13: important country like Japan that is probably doing more to
43:09
Speaker 13: defend Australia with its armaments built up than we are ourselves.
43:17
Speaker 1: To the mysterious murder that I covered last night of
43:21
Speaker 1: former British Conservative minister and Whitttercombe later with the Reform
43:27
Speaker 1: Party as this immigration spokesman. She was beaten to death
43:31
Speaker 1: at home, allegedly by a man who traveled nearly five
43:34
Speaker 1: hundred kilometers to get to her, and what I found
43:37
Speaker 1: so strange. As we discussed last night about this is
43:40
Speaker 1: the place, were very quick to say that they couldn't
43:43
Speaker 1: see a political motive for the murder. But now counter
43:47
Speaker 1: terrorism police have taken over the investigation after apparently new
43:52
Speaker 1: evidence Mia, this seems to be such an obvious possibility.
43:56
Speaker 1: When the left is now so violent, it.
44:01
Speaker 6: Is not obvious possibility. Andrew and I certainly was surprised
44:04
Speaker 6: that it was dismissed so quickly. I think it's a
44:07
Speaker 6: huge concern that we are seeing a rise of violence
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Speaker 6: against political figures. We saw that after the assassination assassination
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Speaker 6: of Charlie Kirk, where many on the left said that
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Speaker 6: sometimes violence is necessary to achieve political objectives, and that
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Speaker 6: is a huge worry that that has not been stamped out.
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Speaker 6: And the other concern is that in society at the
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Speaker 6: moment we have the left who is increasingly drumming up
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Speaker 6: this narrative that words equate to violence, and therefore when
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Speaker 6: someone says something you don't agree with, it is fair
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Speaker 6: for that to be met with a physical and violent
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Speaker 6: reaction to cancel out those words. And that is a
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Speaker 6: huge problem out society has become increasingly intolerant to speech,
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Speaker 6: and when you see decline of free speech, unfortunately, you
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Speaker 6: see the rise of violence against political figures.
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Speaker 1: And Michael I gave an example earlier in the show
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Speaker 1: of an excuse making for political violence. It does seem
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Speaker 1: to me to be coming from the left in particular.
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Speaker 13: And it's affected our institution's Andrew like, how is it
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Speaker 13: that the British police don't react to this in the
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Speaker 13: way that common sense would dictate that she's a right
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Speaker 13: wing political commentator, a very funny one apparently, and someone's
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Speaker 13: driven four hundred miles from the North to come down
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Speaker 13: to murder. I mean, why count out a political motive.
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Speaker 13: I think the British police are even worse than our
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Speaker 13: police here and their political wokeness. But I'd be hoping
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Speaker 13: that the Federal police would be forced to appear before
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Speaker 13: this Royal Commission and confess to some of their idiocies.
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Speaker 1: Now I really have to confess me that I feel
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Speaker 1: sorry for, well, maybe I'm a tongue in cheek feel
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Speaker 1: sorry for Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull, who seems to think
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Speaker 1: about me more than I think about him. This mad
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Speaker 1: Golumn that has become Turbull has been recorded saying people
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Speaker 1: should treat Sky News after dark like a drunk raving
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Speaker 1: at the moon. At first I thought he's referring to himself,
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Speaker 1: and I thought, oh, that's unusually humble for him, but
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Speaker 1: he says, no, no, no, don't listen to us at
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Speaker 1: the Murdock Empire. And you know the thing is me.
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Speaker 1: I remember I remember how Turnbull, as a minister in
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Speaker 1: the Abba government, actually came down to visit me in
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Speaker 1: Melbourne for what really turned out to be an auditioned
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Speaker 1: You know, see how smart Turble was actually concluded, what
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Speaker 1: a vain man and out of touch. I also remember
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Speaker 1: Turnbull whining to Rip at Murdock, demanding more support. And
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Speaker 1: I remember how Turbull couldn't take responsibility for being such
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Speaker 1: a hopeless prime minister as I predicted in the Murdoch
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Speaker 1: Media on the day he got the job, that his
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Speaker 1: own party sacked him after he lost thirty eight straight
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Speaker 1: news polls, and how Turnbull instead concocted this paranoid fantasy
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Speaker 1: that it was the Murdoch Media bill is brilliant leadership
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Speaker 1: Me what a wrick of a man.
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Speaker 6: Yeah. Look, I don't think too many people are paying
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Speaker 6: attention to Malcolm Turnbull's commentary on exactly what it is
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Speaker 6: that the Australian people want. I don't think he's exactly
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Speaker 6: got the finger on the pulse of public opinion. I
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Speaker 6: think his time in leadership showed that. In fact, I
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Speaker 6: think if he had a listened to some of the
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Speaker 6: Sky in his commentary and taken some of that feedback
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Speaker 6: on board. He actually might have been a more successful leader,
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Speaker 6: but unfortunately he wasn't. But I think most of us
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Speaker 6: are happy for Malcolm Turnbull to spend his time at
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Speaker 6: the ABC because no one's listening to their coverage anyway,
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Speaker 6: so we can spend all his time there.
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Speaker 1: Will certainlea Well, I'll tell you what. I tell you what, Michael,
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Speaker 1: if he listened about that stupid snowy two point zero
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Speaker 1: project that he claimed at the time would cost us
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Speaker 1: only two billion and they're now listeners, will end up
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Speaker 1: costing forty three billion and might be a wide elephant
47:53
Speaker 1: at that He might not be remembered as such a
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Speaker 1: catastrophically bad prime minister.
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Speaker 13: He did do one good thing and he put a
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Speaker 13: stop to Bahwey right at the end of his prime ministership.
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Speaker 1: But you're absolutely right, Andrew.
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Speaker 13: I want to tell you I'm Interstate Mia and Andrew,
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Speaker 13: and I've been run over in the street by people
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Speaker 13: who are watching Sky News. Please changing to I twenty
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Speaker 13: four to disassociate the brand from that dreadful British show outfit.
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Speaker 13: But my point.
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Speaker 1: Is that.
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Speaker 13: He's politically drunk. Sky has got a very strong audience
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Speaker 13: and you can see that in the increased votes for
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Speaker 13: one Nation. People are angry with the Alberanese government and
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Speaker 13: it's crazy policies, whether it's foreign policy or domestic policy.
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Speaker 1: To go, Michael Danby and me Ashley, thank you very much.
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Speaker 1: You both coming up next. Sherry hosts The Boy Calebond.
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Speaker 1: Good Night,