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- 1:04Sarah Karakaian: Hi there.
- 1:05Sarah Karakaian: My name is Sarah Karakaian.
- 1:07Annette Grant: I'm Annette Grant, and together we are...
- 1:09Annette and Sarah: Thanks for Visiting.
- 1:10Sarah Karakaian: Most hosts go into short-term rentals knowing the big costs, right?
- 1:13Sarah Karakaian: Like mortgage, cleaning fees, furnishings.
- 1:15Sarah Karakaian: But what no one hands you is a list of the expenses that show up after you're already all up in it.
- 1:20Annette Grant: Yeah.
- 1:20Annette Grant: And some of these will cost you a few hundred dollars a year, but some of them will cost you thousands.
- 1:26Sarah Karakaian: And none of these are fringe situations.
- 1:29Sarah Karakaian: These are operating costs that are part of running a short-term rental business, whether you plan for them or not.
- 1:35Annette Grant: Key word there, business.
- 1:37Sarah Karakaian: Business.
- 1:40Annette Grant: We've been hosting for over a decade, built a multimillion-dollar portfolio, and we work with hundreds of hosts who collectively generate over $2 million in monthly reservation bookings through our private coaching program, Strategic Host.
- 1:54Sarah Karakaian: So we're gonna go through the 11 short-term rental expenses most hosts never see coming, and every single one of these belongs in your profit and loss.
- 2:03Sarah Karakaian: And if you don't have one of those, or you don't know how to look at it, that's the next step.
- 2:08Sarah Karakaian: By the end of this, you'll know exactly where to put them.
- 2:12Annette Grant: Number one is short-term rental specific insurance.
- 2:17Annette Grant: And we're starting here because this is the one where hosts are most exposed without knowing it.
- 2:23Annette Grant: When you operate your home as a short-term rental, your standard homeowner's insurance policy almost certainly does not cover you.
- 2:30Annette Grant: Most standard policies exclude short-term rental activity.
- 2:34Annette Grant: If something goes wrong during a guest stay, you could be filing a claim on a policy that was never, ever gonna pay out.
- 2:40Sarah Karakaian: And for those of you who have hung out with us for a while now, you know how we feel about this.
- 2:43Annette Grant: We, we just have to say it again for those in the back.
- 2:45Sarah Karakaian: Truly.
- 2:46Sarah Karakaian: Air Cover is not insurance, okay?
- 2:49Sarah Karakaian: We wanna say that as clearly as possible.
- 2:51Sarah Karakaian: It is Airbnb's own damage protection program, not a licensed insurance policy with your name on it, and it doesn't replace your homeowner's coverage.
- 3:01Sarah Karakaian: We did an entire video and countless podcast episodes breaking this down, and we'll, we'll link that video, the most recent one, in the show notes.
- 3:10Sarah Karakaian: But what you need is short-term rental specific insurance and a broker who understands the short-term rental business.
- 3:19Sarah Karakaian: Number two is licensing and permits.
- 3:23Sarah Karakaian: Depending on your market, operating a short-term rental legally requires a permit, a license, an annual inspection, a renewal fee, or I don't know, all the above.
- 3:33Annette Grant: And a background check.
- 3:34Sarah Karakaian: Yes.
- 3:35Sarah Karakaian: Yes.
- 3:35Sarah Karakaian: That costs extra money here in Columbus.
- 3:37Sarah Karakaian: And the regulations in a lot of markets, they're still changing.
- 3:40Annette Grant: We've watched market shifts literally overnight on short-term rental rules.
- 3:44Annette Grant: The hosts who weren't tracking their compliance requirements had to maybe pause their operations- Oh, yeah while they caught up.
- 3:50Annette Grant: The fees themselves, they're not always enormous, but not being compliant has serious consequences.
- 3:56Annette Grant: Know what your market requires before you list, not after you get a notice.
- 4:01Sarah Karakaian: Okay, number three.
- 4:02Annette Grant: Oof.
- 4:03Annette Grant: No one plans for this.
- 4:04Sarah Karakaian: No one plans for this.
- 4:06Sarah Karakaian: Platform fees and OTA commissions.
- 4:09Sarah Karakaian: Every time a guest books through Airbnb, VRBO, or any other platform, that platform takes a service fee, and so many of you are not recovering them, so, you know, pay attention here.
- 4:20Sarah Karakaian: If you're on multiple platforms, those fees stack up across your full calendar.
- 4:25Annette Grant: Mm-hmm.
- 4:25Annette Grant: And we talk to hosts regularly who have built their profit projections off the gross booking amount without ever backing out the platform fees.
- 4:33Annette Grant: Mm-hmm.
- 4:34Annette Grant: Your mortgage doesn't care about gross revenue.
- 4:37Annette Grant: You gotta plan around what you keep after every platform takes its cut, and make sure that number is in your P&L from the start.
- 4:45Sarah Karakaian: P&L, and also when you're doing a pro forma, make sure you have...
- 4:48Annette Grant: Yeah, you want to plan for it.
- 4:49Sarah Karakaian: Absolutely, a section for, for platform fees.
- 4:52Annette Grant: And those have shifted dramatically for Airbnb hosts specifically in the last 12 months.
- 4:58Sarah Karakaian: Yeah.
- 4:59Annette Grant: Number four is that tech stack bloat.
- 5:03Annette Grant: When you start hosting, you are going to inevitably start adding tools.
- 5:07Annette Grant: A property management system, a dynamic pricing tool, a guest communication platform, a smart lock system, a noise monitor, a review automation tool.
- 5:18Annette Grant: The list goes on and on, and before long, there are eight monthly subscriptions running in the background.
- 5:24Sarah Karakaian: And half of them overlap with something else you're already paying for, and half of them you set up and you never fully learned and forgot about.
- 5:30Sarah Karakaian: When we start working with a new client, tech audit is one of the first things we do.
- 5:35Sarah Karakaian: Know what you're paying for and whether you're using it.
- 5:38Sarah Karakaian: Do that review at least once a quarter.
- 5:42Sarah Karakaian: And by the way, this is the exact work we do with our private clients inside of our coaching program, Strategic Host.
- 5:47Sarah Karakaian: Join us live and see if it's the right next step for your business.
- 5:51Sarah Karakaian: All the deets are in the description.
- 5:55Sarah Karakaian: Number five is, you guys are never gonna guess this.
- 6:00Annette Grant: Credit card?
- 6:01Sarah Karakaian: Credit card processing fees.
- 6:03Sarah Karakaian: And this one is specifically for hosts building out a direct booking site, which don't let this deter you, but I just, we gotta, we gotta be real.
- 6:10Annette Grant: Be prepared.
- 6:10Sarah Karakaian: When you accept credit cards directly from guests, processing fees, usually around 2 to 3% per transaction, come out of every booking.
- 6:18Sarah Karakaian: We love seeing direct booking revenue, we really do, but here's the part that often gets missed.
- 6:23Annette Grant: Yeah.
- 6:24Annette Grant: When a guest potentially, unfortunately cancels and you issue a refund, that processing fee from the original transaction, it does not come back to you.
- 6:35Annette Grant: The processor has already collected it.
- 6:37Annette Grant: So you're refunding the guest the full amount, and you're gonna absorb that fee yourself.
- 6:42Annette Grant: And on a high average daily rate, those fees on refunded bookings, those can add up over the course of a year.
- 6:49Annette Grant: Decide ahead of time whether you're refunding less the processing fee and make sure that's clearly communicated so there are no surprises for your guest.
- 6:59Annette Grant: Number six, this follows directly, it piggybacks off the last one.
- 7:05Annette Grant: Credit card chargebacks.
- 7:08Annette Grant: If you're not familiar, a chargeback is when a guest disputes a charge directly with their credit card company.
- 7:16Annette Grant: The credit card company actually pulls the funds back from you while the dispute is being investigated.
- 7:21Sarah Karakaian: It's brutal.
- 7:22Annette Grant: And that system is built to protect the consumer.
- 7:26Annette Grant: Winning a chargeback dispute as a host, we want to just keep it real, it is a very hard.
- 7:33Annette Grant: Heck, for, for most companies, it's a very hard thing to do.
- 7:36Sarah Karakaian: Yeah.
- 7:37Sarah Karakaian: This is mostly a concern if you're the merchant of record, meaning you're processing the payment directly.
- 7:43Sarah Karakaian: So for Airbnb, pretty much Airbnb's, like, the only OTA that I can think of, um, that handles their own chargebacks for now.
- 7:51Annette Grant: Mm-hmm.
- 7:51Sarah Karakaian: For now.
- 7:52Sarah Karakaian: For now.
- 7:52Sarah Karakaian: But on VRBO, on a direct booking site, a lot of the other OTAs where, like, they get you the lead, they get you the guest, but then you take care of processing the reservation through Stripe or any other
- 8:03Sarah Karakaian: payment processor, a guest can dispute that charge and come after those funds.
- 8:08Sarah Karakaian: And talking about chargebacks is a whole episode in itself.
- 8:11Sarah Karakaian: Maybe we'll do that another time.
- 8:14Annette Grant: And here's the deal, it's not if a chargeback happens to you, it's when.
- 8:20Annette Grant: You need to plan for one chargeback loss per year in your P&L.
- 8:25Annette Grant: And when you've accounted for it in advance, this doesn't blow up your margins for the month when it lands.
- 8:31Annette Grant: And honestly, you should plan, whether it's at a chargeback specifically, you should even plan for a dispute on Airbnb with a guest, even though they don't do chargebacks.
- 8:43Annette Grant: Just planning ahead, and I mean, this has happened to me.
- 8:45Annette Grant: I've had ran so many businesses over my career.
- 8:49Annette Grant: Chargebacks are a part of every single business, from food and beverage, to apparel, to hospitality.
- 8:58Annette Grant: But planning for it will just make it easier.
- 9:00Annette Grant: Make it so much easier when it happens.
- 9:02Sarah Karakaian: Should we get t-shirts that say, "Chargebacks happen?"
- 9:04Annette Grant: No.
- 9:04Sarah Karakaian: Oh, okay.
- 9:05Annette Grant: No.
- 9:05Sarah Karakaian: Okay.
- 9:05Annette Grant: Chargeback happens and I got the T-shirt.
- 9:09Sarah Karakaian: Number seven is the utility spike.
- 9:13Annette Grant: Ooh.
- 9:13Annette Grant: Sara, Sara's husband, Nick would...
- 9:15Annette Grant: This one really gets him.
- 9:17Sarah Karakaian: This really does.
- 9:18Sarah Karakaian: This is where I, like, actually could take my own advice here 'cause I'm like, "Yeah, whatever."
- 9:22Sarah Karakaian: A full calendar is the goal, and a full calendar means full-time usage.
- 9:26Sarah Karakaian: Guests run the AC around the clock because they're not paying the bill.
- 9:29Sarah Karakaian: The hot tub runs continuously, and turnover day puts the laundry through multiple cycles.
- 9:34Sarah Karakaian: Most hosts don't model what a high occupancy costs to run, and the utilities are usually the first place it shows up.
- 9:41Sarah Karakaian: And I don't, I am, I am still not a fan of us making the guest operate the thermostat within boundaries.
- 9:49Annette Grant: Mm-mm.
- 9:49Sarah Karakaian: I'm just not.
- 9:51Sarah Karakaian: You can't convince me otherwise.
- 9:54Sarah Karakaian: So plan for it.
- 9:55Annette Grant: Let it go.
- 9:55Sarah Karakaian: Yeah.
- 9:56Annette Grant: And if you offer pool heat, this is especially important to model.
- 10:00Annette Grant: Pool heat is very expensive to run, and if you didn't build that in the operating cost into, or into your pricing woo, it swings your bottom line significantly on a heavily booked month.
- 10:12Annette Grant: As occupancy goes up, utilities go up with it.
- 10:15Annette Grant: That relationships needs to be on your forecast from the very start.
- 10:20Annette Grant: Number eight is photography, and specifically the fact that a photo shoot, one of them is often not enough.
- 10:31Annette Grant: We get into Airbnb accounts every week with million-dollar homes and photos that are doing nothing for the listing.
- 10:41Annette Grant: This is something that we have been talking about constantly for years.
- 10:46Annette Grant: But here's what most, most hosts, they really haven't considered.
- 10:51Sarah Karakaian: If your property sells a specific experience, you need photos that match the guest you're trying to attract at that moment.
- 10:59Sarah Karakaian: A property marketing a fall experience, you need fall photos.
- 11:03Sarah Karakaian: Okay?
- 11:04Sarah Karakaian: Drone shots, everything, the view.
- 11:06Sarah Karakaian: A property selling summer on a lake, well, you need summer shots.
- 11:10Sarah Karakaian: A daytime and evening photos can look like two completely different experiences and properties.
- 11:16Sarah Karakaian: Lifestyle and still shots serve different purposes.
- 11:19Sarah Karakaian: If someone in your market is investing in seasonal content and you're not, they're getting bookings you're not getting because their listing matches what that guest is searching for in that moment.
- 11:29Sarah Karakaian: Like, it's evoking an emotion, like, "Oh, I'm so excited to go and see those leaves.
- 11:33Sarah Karakaian: I'm so excited to be in front of that, that indoor fireplace with the snow falling outside."
- 11:38Sarah Karakaian: Right?
- 11:39Sarah Karakaian: Drone shots have also changed the game for properties.
- 11:42Sarah Karakaian: Um, the views, the location is all part of the sell, and you need to plan for it.
- 11:47Sarah Karakaian: You need to market it accordingly and have the budget to do so.
- 11:51Annette Grant: And do not let AI make up photos for you.
- 11:54Sarah Karakaian: Don't do it.
- 11:55Sarah Karakaian: Don't be that host.
- 11:58Sarah Karakaian: Number nine, buy nice or buy twice.
- 12:01Sarah Karakaian: And I mean, and this is saying, but I, I believe this saying.
- 12:04Sarah Karakaian: I've lived it.
- 12:05Sarah Karakaian: The saying for a reason.
- 12:05Sarah Karakaian: I, I believe it.
- 12:06Sarah Karakaian: I, I know it.
- 12:07Sarah Karakaian: Short-term rentals put heavy use on furniture in a way a personal home never does.
- 12:12Sarah Karakaian: Your bed frame, your mattress, your sofa, your patio furniture are cycling through, not just cycling through guests constantly, but different kinds of guests who treat the furniture differently, right?
- 12:21Sarah Karakaian: A couch that lasts 10 years in a personal home might last two in a busy short-term rental.
- 12:26Annette Grant: Hosts who think they're saving money on these items end up replacing them more frequently and spending more over time than the host who invested in quality from the start.
- 12:37Annette Grant: And the wear shows up in your reviews before it shows up in your replacement schedule.
- 12:40Sarah Karakaian: Yeah.
- 12:40Annette Grant: You know, you don't wanna have the saggy mattress or the worn out outdoor seating getting mentioned in your reviews.
- 12:46Annette Grant: Invest in these items guests are going to interact with the most.
- 12:51Annette Grant: And number 10 is your financial team, your CPA, a bookkeeper, your attorney.
- 12:58Annette Grant: These aren't expenses most hosts think about when you're setting up your first property, but they are the people who will save you the most money over the lifetime of the business when you use them well.
- 13:10Sarah Karakaian: An attorney gets your business structure right from the start, reviews contracts, and protects you when something goes sideways.
- 13:17Sarah Karakaian: Like, your attorney has, if they're good, has seen a lot.
- 13:21Annette Grant: Mm-hmm.
- 13:21Sarah Karakaian: And so they can help you not be a part of all those stories that they've been a part of, right?
- 13:27Sarah Karakaian: A CPA who understands short-term rentals finds deductions most hosts never knew existed and keeps you out of tax situations that come from not understanding how short-term rental income is treated.
- 13:39Sarah Karakaian: A bookkeeper keeps your P&L current, so you always know where you stand.
- 13:43Sarah Karakaian: You don't need all three on retainer, but find them early and build the relationship before you need them urgently.
- 13:52Sarah Karakaian: Okay, number 11 is the most expensive one on this list, and it's one that never shows up on a statement, hosting without a pricing strategy.
- 14:00Sarah Karakaian: You know we'll die on this hill, you guys.
- 14:02Sarah Karakaian: Without understanding your numbers, without knowing what to do when bookings slow down or when demand spikes, costs host thousands of dollars, you guys.
- 14:11Sarah Karakaian: We see it time and time again on hosts that don't deserve to not make money.
- 14:15Sarah Karakaian: It's happening, um, without them ever seeing it, uh, leave their account.
- 14:20Sarah Karakaian: It's just...
- 14:21Sarah Karakaian: I wish I could save all of you, and so...
- 14:24Sarah Karakaian: don't do this.
- 14:25Annette Grant: And the version of this that we see most often is a host who has Price Labs, they have it connected, and they assume that that investment in the dynamic pricing to software is the strategy.
- 14:39Annette Grant: They don't understand the settings.
- 14:41Annette Grant: They don't know how to read their data.
- 14:43Annette Grant: So when the bookings slow down, the only move they make is to panic price and drop the rate.
- 14:48Annette Grant: They drop it, if they get a booking, and it feels like it worked, but they never find out if that guest would have paid more.
- 14:56Annette Grant: And they do the same thing on every date, on every weekend, on their highest demand nights of the year.
- 15:03Sarah Karakaian: Now, that pattern across a full calendar is tens of thousands of dollars left on the table, and that's just one property.
- 15:10Annette Grant: Mm-hmm.
- 15:10Sarah Karakaian: Okay?
- 15:10Sarah Karakaian: Now, when you compound it, if you are a co-host, you own multiple properties, this is just a system or a, a, a situation that just is...
- 15:18Sarah Karakaian: goes on repeat, and it's no, not good.
- 15:20Sarah Karakaian: Not because the market was bad, and it's not because your property isn't strong enough, it is because you don't know what you don't know, and it had a price tag attached to it that you never calculated.
- 15:31Annette Grant: And that is all 11, and that last one is the one that we would actually fix first because once you have a strategy and understand your numbers, every other expense on the list gets easier to manage.
- 15:45Sarah Karakaian: The hosts who struggle financially are almost never struggling because the market failed them, even though they'll blame the market.
- 15:52Sarah Karakaian: Something on this list caught them off guard, and most of the time it was something they could have planned for.
- 15:58Annette Grant: Now you know what's coming.
- 15:59Annette Grant: Get your insurance sorted, know your numbers, and build the right team around you before you need one urgently.
- 16:05Sarah Karakaian: Inside of Strategic Hostess, we help hosts get more nights booked, charged what their property is worth, and stop leaving money on the table.
- 16:12Sarah Karakaian: This is the exact work we do with our private clients inside Strategic Host.
- 16:16Sarah Karakaian: So we want you to join us live.
- 16:17Sarah Karakaian: We show up live, see if it's right, if it's the right next step for your business.
- 16:21Sarah Karakaian: All the information is in the show notes.
- 16:25Sarah Karakaian: And with that, I am Sara Karakaian.
- 16:27Annette Grant: I'm Annette Grant, and together we are...
- 16:29Annette and Sarah: Thanks for visiting.