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Everything Has A Price With CK SMILE From CHAOSEUM · HEAVY Music Interviews

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  Speaker 1: I'm Casemat from from Kasim and Kism. You can find
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  Speaker 1: vol veins and the guitar Kevin Sync and the guitar,
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  Speaker 1: Fim Broker on bass, Greg Turini on drums and the
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  Speaker 1: band starting in twenty eighteen with almost completely different lineup
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  Speaker 1: because the band was with four members with another guitar player,
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  Speaker 1: no bass in another singer and I joined the band
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  Speaker 1: in twenty nineteen when they decide to change the lead
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  Speaker 1: singer and we were like this till twenty twenty four,
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  Speaker 1: twenty twenty three with the X guitar player and then
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  Speaker 1: we uh he decided to quit the band and we
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  Speaker 1: we wanted to to just to have a new guitar
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  Speaker 1: player and it was maybe the good time to to
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  Speaker 1: to reboot the the bands correctly introducing a real bass player,
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  Speaker 1: because because before we had just backing tracks with with
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  Speaker 1: bass on stage. It's just because it was it was
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  Speaker 1: very complicated to find a bass player available to to
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  Speaker 1: to find time a lot of time to to travel
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  Speaker 1: to make some tours, and in Switzerland it is a
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  Speaker 1: little bit more complicated to find people. Uh people ready
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  Speaker 1: to to to do to have this this type of life.
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  Speaker 1: But we found it and uh so now we're five
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  Speaker 1: and we were list our new last album live for
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  Speaker 1: sale on Sitsumerland nineteen and you were talking about acoustic album, right, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: this album was made during the lockdown twenty twenty. I
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  Speaker 1: think you remember very well that period. And the first
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  Speaker 1: idea was just to play stick into my scheme on
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  Speaker 1: an acoustic version. Who wanted just to do a video,
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  Speaker 1: just kind of unplugged the video just for that song.
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  Speaker 1: But when we released the video, many people was asking
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  Speaker 1: for all the songs and and we were like, oh sorry,
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  Speaker 1: now we wanted just to do for this song because
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  Speaker 1: we have only this song can very sounds good an
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  Speaker 1: acoustic And after many many, many, many many requests, we
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  Speaker 1: decided to go to the studio and when it was
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  Speaker 1: a lockdown, so we had a lot of time. So
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  Speaker 1: we worked a lot on to choose some some songs,
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  Speaker 1: trying to figure out how to how to to do
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  Speaker 1: an acoustic version. That's it, and we made sagaing Skin
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  Speaker 1: It was, it was, It wasn't. It was a big
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  Speaker 1: surprise for us to do than that album that that
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  Speaker 1: wasn't in our in our plan, but went well.
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  Speaker 2: We did it nice, very nice.
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  Speaker 3: So Chaos and recently released the new album Life the
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  Speaker 3: Style back on September nine eight.
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  Speaker 2: Did you say, how's the earlier respose been for it.
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  Speaker 1: This album? Well, this album have a completely different story,
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  Speaker 1: uh more than the previous the previous album, because on
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  Speaker 1: this one I had to to to compose it completely
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  Speaker 1: alone because in the previous album we were two composers, uh,
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  Speaker 1: and it was the the extel player and I And
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  Speaker 1: when he quit the band, we had to find new members.
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  Speaker 1: And the new members, Kevin and Finn, was so yeah,
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  Speaker 1: so new in this band and they had to to
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  Speaker 1: learn every every songs from the previous album. And it
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  Speaker 1: was a huge work because yeah, we had to do
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  Speaker 1: very quickly, some tours, many many gigs, and they don't
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  Speaker 1: have the time to to be to be a two
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  Speaker 1: hundred percent implicated from the from the composition. So I
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  Speaker 1: decided to do to do it, to do it alone.
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  Speaker 1: And and it's different because U I grew up in
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  Speaker 1: a new new metal era from nineties and early two thousand,
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  Speaker 1: so you can hear on this album is a little
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  Speaker 1: bit more simple in some way, but that's a that's
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  Speaker 1: what I like and simple lyrics. It is different too
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  Speaker 1: because in the previous album, I was mixing, uh, part
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  Speaker 1: of part of true story, mixing with something from imagination
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  Speaker 1: just for something more epic on this one. No, it's this.
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  Speaker 1: This one is a is more more real, more more
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  Speaker 1: How do how do you say that? Yeah? Sorry?
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  Speaker 2: More more personal?
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  Speaker 1: Maybe completely personal, definitely. And so that means that it
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  Speaker 1: was hard for me to write that because I'm talking
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  Speaker 1: a lot of my past and I have many episodes
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  Speaker 1: on on my past that I that it was very
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  Speaker 1: complicated to live and and and some and for some
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  Speaker 1: things it's still a little bit complicated, but uh, I
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  Speaker 1: deal with it. But yeah, it took time for me
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  Speaker 1: to to write that lyrics because I had to be
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  Speaker 1: very sure to show myself real in this one. But
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  Speaker 1: it was a good time because it is in my
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  Speaker 1: past and that's something that I that I I wanna
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  Speaker 1: that I don't want to keep it anymore. So this
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  Speaker 1: life this and I was like, okay, now, uh, I'm
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  Speaker 1: I'm ready to to live to live that behind this
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  Speaker 1: life is for sale.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah right, yeah, very good. That makes sense.
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  Speaker 1: And yeah, and that's how this new baby born cool. Well.
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  Speaker 3: I spoke to you last time when you released The
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  Speaker 3: Third Eye, and you said that that album was a
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  Speaker 3: little darker and more mystic than your previous releases. Did
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  Speaker 3: you carry that through to Life for Sale?
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  Speaker 1: It's not so dark for me from our perspective, is
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  Speaker 1: not so dark then as through that this one is
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  Speaker 1: more it's just more personal. But Nuts dark. Yeah, of
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  Speaker 1: course the themes are not happy, but but in the
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  Speaker 1: sounds it is not for me. It's that sounds so
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  Speaker 1: so dark. And the different things is I put a
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  Speaker 1: lot of industrial always the electra sounds. I had to.
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  Speaker 1: I had to learn to learn how to do that
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  Speaker 1: because I never did that before. So I had to
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  Speaker 1: learn to do that. Maybe in the next album, for
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  Speaker 1: the fifth album, I will do more. Maybe I'll be
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  Speaker 1: like a DJ on this one. No, we'll see.
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  Speaker 3: You've released the singles Freaking Ahead by A Life for Stale,
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  Speaker 3: So if that's all that somebody has heard of the album,
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  Speaker 3: are those three songs of good representation of the whole album?
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  Speaker 1: Nuts one hundred percent? Yeah, there's a good reposition. But
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  Speaker 1: you if you hear songs like Ain't Human, Ain't Human?
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  Speaker 1: I put a lot more synth wave vibes in the chorus,
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  Speaker 1: So yeah, I think if you if you want to
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  Speaker 1: have a good idea from the album. You have to
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  Speaker 1: you have to hear the completely the album because we
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  Speaker 1: did a new version of Smile Again and orchestral version
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  Speaker 1: and that's absolutely nuts. The electro noisy or things like this,
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  Speaker 1: it's very you can find you can you can hear
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  Speaker 1: that maybe more in a movie and now in a
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  Speaker 1: middle uh metal album and and thing songs like two
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  Speaker 1: Minutes only that's more my my kind of homage of
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  Speaker 1: from for death Tones because I grew up with the
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  Speaker 1: music and I'm like, I'm still a huge fan Deaf Tones.
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  Speaker 1: And yeah, and they they released a new album a
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  Speaker 1: few weeks ago. I was like a like a teenager,
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  Speaker 1: Oh my god, so that that was a home made
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  Speaker 1: for for them. I had and and and you know what,
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  Speaker 1: that's that's a fun story because before the people know
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  Speaker 1: that our bands, my secret dream was to sing like
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  Speaker 1: China Moreno from Death UNEs. And I was so sad
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  Speaker 1: when so when many people was telling me, oh no,
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  Speaker 1: you sing like g d Well, okay, it's a great singer.
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  Speaker 1: Of course I love Corn, but that wasn't.
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  Speaker 3: You mentioned the orchestra version of Smile Again, Like it's
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  Speaker 3: a beautiful piece of music, But what what made you
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  Speaker 3: decide to strip it back and do it.
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  Speaker 1: Orchestraly because for so many reasons. Because when when the
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  Speaker 1: EXTA player left the band, it was at the same
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  Speaker 1: time in a very very awful period because on this
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  Speaker 1: period personally I had some problem with depression. I had
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  Speaker 1: I had to deal very hardly hardly with it, uh
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  Speaker 1: in the bands. So the band had some problem with
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  Speaker 1: with with with the health. Everything is okay today.
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  Speaker 2: Don't worry.
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  Speaker 1: And and we did. And and it was a composer,
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  Speaker 1: so the attL player was a composer, so it was
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  Speaker 1: we were a little bit afraid what happened for the
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  Speaker 1: bands if the music changed. And I never and I
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  Speaker 1: never composed anything alone. So yeah, I was nervous. I
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  Speaker 1: was Okay, I have to deal with my with my anxiety,
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  Speaker 1: with my social anxiety, but I have to do this
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  Speaker 1: job alone, okay. And we found the new member and
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  Speaker 1: I found, uh the inspiration. I decide to Okay, you're depressive,
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  Speaker 1: just accept it now, try to try to do try
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  Speaker 1: to try to use it like your strength strengths, and yeah,
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  Speaker 1: and do something with it. And and yeah, it was
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  Speaker 1: just a completely restarts for a completely reload for for
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  Speaker 1: the band. And and it was a good thing to
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  Speaker 1: to to take the song that made this band more
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  Speaker 1: a little bit more famous, to reborn again with a
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  Speaker 1: new version, with something, yeah, with something more more personal, sounding,
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  Speaker 1: more more personal. And I'm a I'm a huge fan
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  Speaker 1: of movies, and I wanted something more emotional. So I
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  Speaker 1: will first well, I was thinking about an acoustic version
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  Speaker 1: of Smile again, just an acoustic one, just all the
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  Speaker 1: r vocals, piano or vocals, guitar, acoustic guitar. And I
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  Speaker 1: started to to reimagine the version, working working on the
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  Speaker 1: on my cello. We're working on the piano, and I
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  Speaker 1: put cello, a second cello, a third cello for a cello,
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  Speaker 1: six cello. Okay, now, uh bass more bass, Okay, well
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  Speaker 1: maybe some some brass other and uh and uh and
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  Speaker 1: it was okay, okay, no no, no MTV nineties unplugged.
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  Speaker 1: It will be more haunt seamer version.
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  Speaker 2: And uh yeah.
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  Speaker 1: And then and for me, this song, in this version,
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  Speaker 1: it means more for for the restart of the band,
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  Speaker 1: of the band is reborn.
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  Speaker 2: Yep.
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  Speaker 3: Nice And you mentioned mentioned the fact that you like
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  Speaker 3: cinema and cinematics right your your music, it's if any
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  Speaker 3: listen to it, it's got lots of different layers, and
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  Speaker 3: they're all filled with emotions and atmospherics and a bit
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  Speaker 3: of cinema sort of stuff like and how difficult is
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  Speaker 3: it to put all of those elements into a song?
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  Speaker 1: Is it? This is how I build a song. I
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  Speaker 1: always imagine I have my own movie in my head
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  Speaker 1: when I when I'm thinking about it, I'm just hearing
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  Speaker 1: always still inside my head the song, what kind of sounds?
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  Speaker 1: What comes? Song can be on this image? This? And
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  Speaker 1: uh so that's mean I just closed my eyes I
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  Speaker 1: for this. I put my my life as a as
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  Speaker 1: a movie watching this life. If I was in a
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  Speaker 1: theater and I just started to imagine a song on it,
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  Speaker 1: how how could imagine if if it was just on
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  Speaker 1: a screen and it wasn't a theater watching that movie,
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  Speaker 1: how I can just feel more the emotion of the
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  Speaker 1: moments with the music, with the music. And this is
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  Speaker 1: how I build the songs. Uh started with instrumental just
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  Speaker 1: it was just guitar riff first and and then okay,
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  Speaker 1: now the bass, what kind of rhythm? What kind of rhythm?
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  Speaker 1: And I built all the instrumental and then I I
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  Speaker 1: I read the I wrote the lyrics first, I composed
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  Speaker 1: the melody of the voice. Uh, and and then the lyrics. Wow.
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  Speaker 3: That sounds like a lot of work, but it's it's
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  Speaker 3: worth it because you can hear you can you can
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  Speaker 3: hear the different layers in the music.
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  Speaker 2: It's it's fantastic.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, some people think I'm crazy.
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  Speaker 3: If that's crazy, want to be crazy too. I'm not
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  Speaker 3: sure if you remember, but last time and I spoke
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  Speaker 3: to you, you said to me, obviously we will get
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  Speaker 3: to Australia someday. I just don't know when that was
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  Speaker 3: three years ago. Do you know when you know when?
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  Speaker 1: No? No, I remember, yeah, do you know when you're coming? Now? Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: we still don't know. Worry, we still think about it.
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  Speaker 1: The only thing is just we we we're waiting on
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  Speaker 1: the opportunity, okay, because many people you need me and
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  Speaker 1: many people ask us when when we go to Australia,
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  Speaker 1: But and of course it's the the world still on
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  Speaker 1: an our plan plans, but yeah, for now is just
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  Speaker 1: to find the the the opportunity if we we go
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  Speaker 1: there to as a headliners or or or on who
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  Speaker 1: say that the first part of the a huge liner
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  Speaker 1: opening opening for a huge aligner. We don't know that
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  Speaker 1: now because we're independent. So my job is to to
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  Speaker 1: work on the visual of the of the bands and
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  Speaker 1: the and the songs, and the rest of the bands
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  Speaker 1: do the arrangements on the songs and they they have
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  Speaker 1: their their their own job inside the band, very very
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  Speaker 1: very important work. If they don't do that work, I
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  Speaker 1: couldn't be here talking to you. So so yeah, that's
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  Speaker 1: just more slow for for fine, for friends of the
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  Speaker 1: the opportunity and how to to find good deals for
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  Speaker 1: to go there. But of course we will. We will
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  Speaker 1: go to Australia. I wanted because I have I have
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  Speaker 1: some some part of my family in Australia, so I
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  Speaker 1: want to go there for sure,