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Iran, The Midterms, The Smithsonian, and The Odyssey · The Hugh Hewitt Show: Highly Concentrated

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Speaker 3: to see what we can make of them and see
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Speaker 3: what kind of see what kind of conclusions we can draw.
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Speaker 3: So here are a couple that I've drawn, and we'll
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Speaker 3: just sort of see where we are on all the
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Speaker 3: various things in the news. Obviously, we have a situation
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Speaker 3: in Iran that is frustrating. It is not sustainable for
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Speaker 3: much longer. It is always a horrible thing to have
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Speaker 3: a war on a clock, of a war on a calendar,
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Speaker 3: to be sitting here looking at the watch, looking at
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Speaker 3: the days passing on the calendar, and say, man, we
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Speaker 3: kind of need to have this wrapped up by this
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Speaker 3: date certain, And it's not really a date certain. The
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Speaker 3: line that I've often used on the morning show that
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Speaker 3: I host, by the way, that's my real job, my
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Speaker 3: usual daily job. This is obviously part of my real
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Speaker 3: job as well, is morning a morning show host here
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Speaker 3: on six sixty am the Answer in Thriving Dallas, Fort Worth,
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Speaker 3: which you see behind my head. So this very morning
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Speaker 3: I was talking about how the timing might go, and
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Speaker 3: here we are at the end of July. August will
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Speaker 3: soon follow, and that's about it. Because by the time
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Speaker 3: we get to Labor Day, that's Labor Day's kind of
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Speaker 3: the unofficial home stretch, or when we get to the midterms.
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Speaker 3: And that's the other thing, that's the reason why this
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Speaker 3: entire global conflict with Iran that has worldwide ramifications for
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Speaker 3: the American economy, the stability of the Middle East our
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Speaker 3: relationship with Israel, Israel's relationship with its neighbors in the
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Speaker 3: Middle East. There's just important things stacked on on top
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Speaker 3: of important things, stacked on top of important thing, and
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Speaker 3: it all is tied umbilically to November third. It is
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Speaker 3: all tied umbilically to the midterms. So you end up
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Speaker 3: having a kind of a parlor game. I mean, what's
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Speaker 3: more important the stability of the world or the American midterms.
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Speaker 3: I would suggest that that's a false binary choice. I'm
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Speaker 3: going to get greedy. I want a stable world and
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Speaker 3: Republican victories in the midterms, because I view those as inextricable.
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Speaker 3: I don't think we can have much of a promise
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Speaker 3: for a stable world, a reliable foreign policy toward the
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Speaker 3: Middle East, reliable progress in our situation with Iran. If
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Speaker 3: Democrats wind up capturing the House or the Senate, that
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Speaker 3: it is all part and parcel of the same goal.
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Speaker 3: And I don't have this goal only because I'm a Republican,
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Speaker 3: or only because I'm a conservative, or only because I
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Speaker 3: do talk shows for a living and involved in the
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Speaker 3: whole conservative media sphere, but just as an American, as
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Speaker 3: a person, I'd like sanity returned to the Middle East
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Speaker 3: to whatever degree is possible. I know we're not going
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Speaker 3: to turn Iran in Indiana. That was part of the
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Speaker 3: noble intent but flawed concept of what was the so
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Speaker 3: called war on Terror. I will always be thankful for
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Speaker 3: President Bush taking the war f efort to the part
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Speaker 3: of the world that was trying to kill us. I
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Speaker 3: supported it, then I support it on principle now historically
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Speaker 3: in retrospect, but as year after year after year after
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Speaker 3: year unfolded, it became clear number of things became clear.
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Speaker 3: We were and remain a war weary country. We don't
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Speaker 3: like to get into long slogs. We don't like to
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Speaker 3: involve ourselves in quagmires and standoffs of indefinite length. And
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Speaker 3: that's what scares everybody right now, is like, is this
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Speaker 3: another one? And if we do all the things that
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Speaker 3: were that we that a lot of people want to do,
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Speaker 3: that I'd like to do. It all comes under the
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Speaker 3: heading of finish the job. How many times have you
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Speaker 3: heard somebody say that this week, well, what we ought
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Speaker 3: to do is finish the job. Okay, what does that
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Speaker 3: look like? Level what's left of Iran? Turn Tehran into
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Speaker 3: smoldering rubble kill everybody we can find in the IRGC
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Speaker 3: that might be one, that might be one. And if
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Speaker 3: we are not, if President Trump is not of a
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Speaker 3: mind to come in with that kind of heavy foot,
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Speaker 3: do we unleash the Israelis. I've heard about that a lot.
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Speaker 3: Let let Israel do what Israel wants to do, and
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Speaker 3: if they want to take some sufficient action toward Iran
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Speaker 3: that is even more dire than what we've done. And
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Speaker 3: all we do is tell everybody that we've obliterated their
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Speaker 3: military five times a day. And listen, I don't mean
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Speaker 3: to be glib or dismissive about what we have done.
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Speaker 3: What we have done is remarkable, and in fact, amid
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Speaker 3: all of this, let history record and let everyone notice
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Speaker 3: right now that the world is safer today than it
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Speaker 3: was before we started this war effort. As everybody wrings
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Speaker 3: their hands and throws hate at Trump and hate at
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Speaker 3: America for what seems to be a really, really difficult
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Speaker 3: row to hoe waters, to navigate literally straight up hormones.
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Speaker 3: It's all very very hard right now. But do I
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Speaker 3: regret it? I don't do. I wish it hadn't happened.
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Speaker 3: I don't. If one more Democrat says, hey, the street
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Speaker 3: of war moves was open before we even Well, yes
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Speaker 3: it was. And you know what else was going on?
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Speaker 3: Before Iran was within some degree of proximity of having
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Speaker 3: nuclear weapons capability, and now they're not. Iran was able
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Speaker 3: to with relative facility of funnel enormous amounts of money
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Speaker 3: to Hamas Hezbollah, who knows what kind of tear our
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Speaker 3: cells in the United States, and now they are far,
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Speaker 3: far less able to do so for that reason, I
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Speaker 3: mean outright, mathematically, Americans are safer because of the war
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Speaker 3: exactly the way that we have dispatched it. Has it
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Speaker 3: been messy? Yes? Is there an exit ramp right now?
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Speaker 4: No?
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Speaker 3: Is it frustrating? Of course it is. Do we wish
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Speaker 3: there was some magic wand we could waive some magic
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Speaker 3: language we could speak. See the languages that we have
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Speaker 3: tried to speak, and I don't mean Farsi. The languages
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Speaker 3: we've tried to speak toward the Iranians are the language
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Speaker 3: of military force. They hear us, but they haven't cried
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Speaker 3: uncle yet, will they ever? I don't know. The language
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Speaker 3: of economic pressure seems to have an audience, but I
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Speaker 3: don't know if it has that audience within the theocratic insanity,
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Speaker 3: ranks of the Iyatolas. The other thing that's really tricky.
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Speaker 3: There's been a lot of opportunities to look at history
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Speaker 3: and look back at the conflicts of our past. I'm
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Speaker 3: old enough to remember all kinds of things like this.
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Speaker 3: Maybe you are too. When when the Russians were a problem,
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Speaker 3: well so, when the Soviet Union was a problem, because
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Speaker 3: the Russians still are. When the Soviet Union was a problem,
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Speaker 3: there was something that we could rely on, if you
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Speaker 3: want to phrase it that way, and that is that
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Speaker 3: they didn't actively want to die, you know, whether it
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Speaker 3: was Brezhnev and drop off Gorbachev, choose your Soviet leader.
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Speaker 3: They did not go to bed at night we willing
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Speaker 3: to entertain the notion of going up in a fireball
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Speaker 3: from the United States because they didn't have the whole
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Speaker 3: you know, talk to Alah Forever seventy two virgins bonus
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Speaker 3: plan that these folks do have that makes them not
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Speaker 3: just ambivalent, but maybe outright enthusiastics, like, hey, if we
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Speaker 3: go up in a ball of fire and a battle
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Speaker 3: with a great Satan, so be it. Well that kind
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Speaker 3: of makes it hard to deal with them, doesn't it.
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Speaker 3: Because there's something fear of being liquidated, liquefied by the
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Speaker 3: American military. That has been a force that's worked towards
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Speaker 3: success in a number of negotiations past. Well, this is
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Speaker 3: not negotiations past. This is a current negotiation that looks really,
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Speaker 3: really vexing and difficult. So how do we proceed through it?
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Speaker 3: We're going to talk some guests. We got some thoughts
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Speaker 3: to share with you, and we're glad to be here
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Speaker 3: with you on the UUs Show, Mark Davis on a
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Speaker 3: Friday stick around, going back to the summer of seventy six,
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Speaker 3: looking fifty years ago, summer of the bi centennial year,
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Speaker 3: the Boys of Starbuck everybody, was there a Starbucks coffee
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Speaker 3: at that time or that been invented? Was there a
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Speaker 3: lawsuit that should have happened? I don't even know. I
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Speaker 3: hope those boys invested. Well that's the one here. I
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Speaker 3: wonder we remember a little moonlight feels right, I'll tell
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Speaker 3: you it feels right. Let's have a chat with Matt Continetti.
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Speaker 3: You can find them on the Wall Street Journal in
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Speaker 3: the hallways at AEI. Matt, welcome, nice to talk to you.
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Speaker 3: How you doing, sir, I'm a newel Mark.
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Speaker 4: Good to see you.
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Speaker 3: Good to see you. Let's do some things. Let's do
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Speaker 3: some global things, let's do some domestic things, and who knows,
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Speaker 3: we got two segments, let's go nuts. What is your
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Speaker 3: thought as this weak winds down of what seems to
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Speaker 3: be a brick wall in front of us, that is
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Speaker 3: the Iranian regime. I think I saw a pinned tweet
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Speaker 3: of yours that said something to the effect that President
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Speaker 3: Trump's problem is and always has been, the Iranian regime.
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Speaker 3: It's not that he lacks energy. It's not that we
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Speaker 3: don't have talent. We got Rubio, we got all we
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Speaker 3: got all kinds of things going for us. But without
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Speaker 3: an Iranian regime that can be dealt with, this is
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Speaker 3: where we are you. What's your thought?
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Speaker 4: Well, I think President Trump has come to the understanding
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Speaker 4: and understanding he's always had that the Iranian regime is
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Speaker 4: not interested in peace and it's not interested in changing
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Speaker 4: its ways. Look, we've had a ceasefire in this conflict
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Speaker 4: technically since early April, and then in June we had
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Speaker 4: the Memorandum of Understanding, and in both cases the Iranian
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Speaker 4: regime said that they would open up the Strait of
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Speaker 4: Hormuz to international shipping, and in both cases they were lying.
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Speaker 4: And soon after these agreements were reached, or in the
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Speaker 4: case of the seafire, president Trump declared the Seasfire. The
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Speaker 4: Iranian Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps, the IRGC, began firing on ships,
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Speaker 4: began firing on America's Arab allies in the Gulf, began
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Speaker 4: imposing tolls, trying to control the flow of energy and
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Speaker 4: fertilizer and other commodities out of the Strait of Hormuz.
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Speaker 4: They were violating in the agreement, and that's why President
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Speaker 4: Trump lost patience. That's what we've been in this now,
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Speaker 4: I think twelve thirteen days of daily and nightly strikes.
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Speaker 4: But I think it's important, and I think that President
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Speaker 4: Trump has also come to understand that a sort of
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Speaker 4: kind of low intensity conflict does not favor a positive
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Speaker 4: outcome for the United States of America and for the world.
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Speaker 4: I think the Iranians are comfortable with the low intensity
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Speaker 4: conflict where they fire one volley of missiles at us,
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Speaker 4: kill a few of our soldiers terribly, and then we
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Speaker 4: respond by firing back, but in a limited capacity. I
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Speaker 4: think President Trump understands that in order to achieve his
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Speaker 4: goals that he's set forth on February twenty eighth when
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Speaker 4: he launched Operation Epic Fury. He is going to have
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Speaker 4: to escalate. He is going to have to increase the
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Speaker 4: intensity of our campaign, and he's going to have to
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Speaker 4: expand the range of targets.
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Speaker 3: I think that's very smart, and I think that's something
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Speaker 3: that I would agree with in asking the following question,
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Speaker 3: here's what poisons the water right now, because if we
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Speaker 3: start to talk about the notion of even one boot
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Speaker 3: on the ground or even one more American life lost,
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Speaker 3: and there may be many more American lives lost in
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Speaker 3: order to actually achieve success, the first thing that's going
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Speaker 3: to happen to anybody even asking those questions is they'll
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Speaker 3: be accused of either being a Neocon or a shill
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Speaker 3: for Israel. I am neither. I just want to win
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Speaker 3: this thing because I think it's worth winning. And I
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Speaker 3: don't sit here in caval One of these lives just lost.
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Speaker 3: The young lady grew up ten miles from where I'm
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Speaker 3: sitting in Carrollton, Texas. Every one life is too many,
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Speaker 3: Every drop of American blood is too much. But whether
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Speaker 3: it's the various wars, the various just wars that we've
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Speaker 3: been involved in, or any of a number of other conflicts.
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Speaker 3: Every once in a while, this is what it takes
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Speaker 3: to win. What kind of appetite do you think there
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Speaker 3: will be for what you and I, and whether it's
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Speaker 3: been Shapiro or Donald Trump or Marco Rubio might think
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Speaker 3: as possible to finally get to something that resembles success,
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Speaker 3: and that is ramping up the military effort with something
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Speaker 3: that could come at a cost. Are we willing to pay?
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Speaker 3: Are we willing to pay that cost?
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Speaker 4: Pardon the longest, Well, I think I think Mark, as
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Speaker 4: you've just said, we're already paying the cost. So the
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Speaker 4: status quo is not cost free. We've just lost three
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Speaker 4: of our soldiers. The Iranians are not behaving during this
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Speaker 4: supposed time of understanding and ceasefire. So the status quo
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Speaker 4: is costing American lives. The status quo is raising energy prices.
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Speaker 4: The status quo is allowing Iran the space to re arm,
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Speaker 4: to restock, to plot against President Trump, to move its
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Speaker 4: centrifuges deeper underground in the hope one day of restarting
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Speaker 4: the nuclear program. So the status quo carries a high,
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Speaker 4: high cost and simply leaving the scene right now as
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Speaker 4: some of us, as some are urging, would mean that
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Speaker 4: the costs would be higher, because then Iran would move
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Speaker 4: to control the Strait of Harm moves through which about
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Speaker 4: a fifth of the global energy supply and other commodities
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Speaker 4: go through pass through, meaning our energy prices be higher.
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Speaker 4: We have a nuclear program and there's a cost.
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Speaker 3: No matter what. So my question was so long it
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Speaker 3: didn't leave enough for you to answer it. Hang on
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Speaker 3: a second, We'll continue with Matt Cottonetty, Mark Davison for you,
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Speaker 3: you at stay here for you, eighty Shipper Snappers, Little
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Speaker 3: Genesis nineteen eighty six, Invisible Touch, title track from Invisible Touch,
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Speaker 3: which was like a top ten album of just forty
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Speaker 3: short years ago. Go figure, Matt Cottonetty is here, Wall
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Speaker 3: Street Journal, AEI, etcetera, etcetera. Matt, let's pivot to that
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Speaker 3: other war, the one that didn't seem like there's enough
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Speaker 3: oxygen to talk about at all. I confess I go
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Speaker 3: days without really thinking about Russia Ukraine. Yet every day
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Speaker 3: it seems like a near miracle that I think it
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Speaker 3: was a near miracle after three four weeks that Russia
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Speaker 3: had not already won. Ukraine should have been a part
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Speaker 3: of Russia, at least the eastern twenty five percent of
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Speaker 3: Ukraine should have been a part of Russia for years now.
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Speaker 3: Why has that not happened and where does that thing
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Speaker 3: even stand right now?
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Speaker 4: Well, Mark, the first reason that Ukraine has survived is
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Speaker 4: because of the tenacity and courage of the Ukrainian people
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Speaker 4: and because of the statesmanship of Ukraine's leader, Vladimir Zelenski.
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Speaker 4: Leadership counts for a lot, and the willingness to fight
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Speaker 4: counts for a lot, and nations don't like to be
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Speaker 4: invaded by autocratic neighbors with designs on their territory. The
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Speaker 4: second reason Ukraine has persisted and has survived of this
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Speaker 4: long is because it has mastered the new technology of warfare.
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Speaker 4: And this is the lesson of the Ukraine Russia war,
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Speaker 4: and I think it's also partly the lesson of the
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Speaker 4: US Iran War. Is that warfare is changing and now
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Speaker 4: the new technologies of drones and missiles give an advantage
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Speaker 4: to whichever side masters those technologies, and so Ukraine's drone
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Speaker 4: technology is absolutely incredible. They're able to stop most of
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Speaker 4: the drones that and short range missiles that Russia fires
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Speaker 4: into their country. They're less capable of stopping the long
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Speaker 4: range ballistic missiles. And that's why I think Zelenski is
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Speaker 4: coming to the United States next week, is he is
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Speaker 4: very eager to find a way that Ukraine can be
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Speaker 4: supplied with more patriot missile defenses. But I'd say it's
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Speaker 4: leadership and I'd say it's technology, and that's really the
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Speaker 4: ingredients you need to fight a war of attrition and
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Speaker 4: to possibly win a war down the line. Let's not
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Speaker 4: forget this war in Ukraine has always surprised us, and
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Speaker 4: one of the biggest surprises has been Ukraine's offensive capacity,
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Speaker 4: not just its ability to defend territory, but now it's
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Speaker 4: a capacity to strike inside Russia long range targets, targeting
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Speaker 4: the Russia's economic base that supplies its war machine, and
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Speaker 4: that has created pressure on Vladimir Putin. Make no mistake
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Speaker 4: about it.
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Speaker 3: Let's pivot domestically. The midterms are impossible to assess. You
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Speaker 3: can look at it one way and think that ruin
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Speaker 3: lies ahead for the Republicans, but then you look at
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Speaker 3: the clown car that is the current Democrat party and
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Speaker 3: you think that maybe we can benefit from a campaign
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Speaker 3: statement that says, you might not agree with us about everything,
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Speaker 3: you might not even like a lot of what we're doing,
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Speaker 3: but those people are insane. Balance those factors out the DSA.
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Speaker 3: Seems like every bit of conservative media every day is
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Speaker 3: the DSSA has taken over. They're socialists, their communists, all
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Speaker 3: of which is true. But how useful a talking point
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Speaker 3: is that.
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Speaker 4: Well, I think that DSA takeover of the Democratic Party,
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Speaker 4: the transformation of the Democratic Party into the Democratic Socialist Party,
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Speaker 4: it's one of the best things going for Republicans these days.
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Speaker 4: There's no question that voters may have favorable views of
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Speaker 4: Bernie Sanders in the abstract or alexandri ocazu Quortez. They
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Speaker 4: might like her live streams. Voters don't like socialism, they
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Speaker 4: don't like Medicare for all, they don't want open border socialism,
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Speaker 4: they don't want to have green mandates stuffed down their throats.
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Speaker 4: And so the socialists rise within the Democratic left provides
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Speaker 4: Republicans with a messaging opportunity, especially in races where you
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Speaker 4: have Democratic Socialists aligned candidates running in competitive elections, and
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Speaker 4: that's mainly it's perhaps in the Senate where we'll see
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Speaker 4: that dynamic play out overall, though, Mark Democrats have a
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Speaker 4: huge Republican have a huge enthusiasm advantage over the Republicans,
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Speaker 4: and so it's President Trump's to get that Republican enthusiasm up.
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Speaker 4: I think that's one reason we're having this midterm convention.
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Speaker 4: And then President Trump he needs to win this war
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Speaker 4: against Iran, and he needs then to convince the American
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Speaker 4: people that this economy is on the right track for
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Speaker 4: Republicans to have a good night in November.
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Speaker 3: Indeed, and I think there's such a wide swath of
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Speaker 3: possibilities it's going to make it compelling every day. In
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Speaker 3: our last couple of minutes, it's the question all conservatives
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Speaker 3: must ponder. Have you, Matthew Continetti seen the Odyssey?
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Speaker 4: You know? You know, I want to because everyone you do,
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Speaker 4: you well, you know, I want to see for myself.
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Speaker 3: That's my child as a reporter, thank you. But that's
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Speaker 3: all anyone is talking about on social media.
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Speaker 4: I feel like I have to be a part of
20:46
Speaker 4: the conversation where I'm going to have that feeling of
20:48
Speaker 4: missing out. Well, no, as a you know, as a
20:51
Speaker 4: as a father, I'm too busy driving my kids to
20:54
Speaker 4: places to place.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, don't tell me your problems here. Here's
20:58
Speaker 3: the reason I goff comically, do you really want to
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Speaker 3: see it? Is because if you trust me on this one,
21:04
Speaker 3: if you see it and you like it, there will
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Speaker 3: be hell to pay. It's a magnificent piece of movie making.
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Speaker 3: Was Helen of Troy really black?
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Speaker 4: No?
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Speaker 3: Did I mind lou Pi de Denongo?
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Speaker 4: No?
21:17
Speaker 3: Is the whole conversion of Ellen Page into a dude
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Speaker 3: just heartbreaking because of this trans nonsense. Yes, is the
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Speaker 3: casting of her a nod to wokeism, of course, but
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Speaker 3: does it adversely affect the movie?
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Speaker 5: No?
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Speaker 3: You got to conduct life in a certain way, that says,
21:33
Speaker 3: am I going to go look it under every rock
21:35
Speaker 3: for something to trigger me. It's exhausting. So I thought
21:40
Speaker 3: it was great. You may you may not, but I
21:43
Speaker 3: just thought it was fantastic.
21:44
Speaker 4: Well, I want to see the cyclops. That's the one
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Speaker 4: part that's huge commercial that really gets me excited. So
21:50
Speaker 4: that's the only reason I want to see it.
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Speaker 3: It's funny because you got these things that we're kind
21:54
Speaker 3: of familiar with conversationally, Cyclops, Trojan horse. You know what's
21:58
Speaker 3: the Trojan horse. It's a bunch of stuffed into a horse.
22:01
Speaker 3: So that they can be spirited inside the enemy walls.
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Speaker 3: But when you think about how that actually was done
22:07
Speaker 3: with a bunch of guys very uncomfortably stuffed into a horse.
22:11
Speaker 3: And what Christopher Nolan said is, you know what we're
22:13
Speaker 3: gonna do. We're gonna take a bunch of actors and
22:15
Speaker 3: stuff them uncomfortably into a horse. They do it. It's
22:19
Speaker 3: uncomfortable to watch. It's great, but you had been the
22:21
Speaker 3: most valuable thing. You said, go see it for yourself,
22:24
Speaker 3: and I offer that to everyone. See it for yourself.
22:27
Speaker 3: Make your own opinions whatever they are. My opinion is,
22:30
Speaker 3: it's always great to talk to Matthew Continetti Continetti on
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Speaker 3: X on Twitter, Thank you so much, or I have
22:35
Speaker 3: a great weekend. It's a pleasure to have you on
22:36
Speaker 3: the program. That is Matthew Continetti, I am Mark Davis.
22:42
Speaker 3: A couple of words about a couple of things that
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Speaker 3: just came up, so let me share those. It will
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Speaker 3: take a look over there on X and see whatever
22:47
Speaker 3: thoughts you may have for me at Mark Davis m
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Speaker 3: A R. K. Davis in for you on this Friday.
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Speaker 2: Stick her out, Listen to nond.
23:04
Speaker 3: You know, if we're going to Harold Mick Jagger's eighty
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Speaker 3: third birthday on Sunday, we might as well play something
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Speaker 3: you recorded when he was eighty two, maybe eighty one.
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Speaker 3: This is mister Charm from the Brand New Stones album
23:17
Speaker 3: I Know I correct, Brand New twenty seventh. If I'm
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Speaker 3: counting Stone's album Foreign Tongues, released two weeks ago, two
23:25
Speaker 3: weeks ago. These are crazy times we live in. Chronicling
23:28
Speaker 3: these crazy times, there's nobody better than Miranda Devine over
23:31
Speaker 3: at the New York Post. I was reading her most
23:33
Speaker 3: recent column, which is always a joy. It's about the
23:36
Speaker 3: Smithsonian stuff that we were talking about earlier this hour,
23:38
Speaker 3: and the headline is the Smithsonian reeks of communist ideologies
23:42
Speaker 3: that our founding fathers would be ashamed of. And she writes,
23:47
Speaker 3: if you wondered how communism has grabbed a foothold in
23:49
Speaker 3: the United States, of all places, look no further than
23:52
Speaker 3: the Smithsonian. It teaches that politeness, punctuality, objectivity, and hard
23:57
Speaker 3: work are white supremacy. Not one major exhibit to George
24:02
Speaker 3: Washington of the Founding Fathers, but they do teach that
24:04
Speaker 3: Benjamin Franklin was a vile slave owner who owed his
24:08
Speaker 3: discoveries to his slaves and that Christopher Columbus was a
24:11
Speaker 3: psychopathic killer and racist, and that we live on stolen land.
24:15
Speaker 3: So I'm reading this and I got with Danielle and
24:17
Speaker 3: I said, Hey, maybe we reach out and see if
24:19
Speaker 3: we can get a hold of Miranda Divine and darned
24:21
Speaker 3: if we didn't succeed Miranda. Longtime fan. How are you, ma'am, I'll.
24:26
Speaker 6: That's very nice to talk to you.
24:28
Speaker 2: I'm great.
24:29
Speaker 6: Apart from just trying to chronicle the craziness that's distended
24:35
Speaker 6: on America, this very dark ideology that has no business
24:41
Speaker 6: in America. But apart from that, everything hunky doory other than.
24:46
Speaker 3: That, Missus Lincoln exactly right. And it's funny because I
24:49
Speaker 3: feel like some victories are at hand, that some trans sanity,
24:55
Speaker 3: gender sanity, environmental sanity is kicking in in a number
24:58
Speaker 3: of ways, and the Trump era is a reason why.
25:01
Speaker 3: But in the annals of history and museums and maybe
25:05
Speaker 3: we're just starting to shine some light on it, as
25:07
Speaker 3: you have done, as some members of Congress like Brandon
25:10
Speaker 3: Gill have done. My Congressman, by the way, we got
25:13
Speaker 3: a lot of work to do. But there are areas
25:15
Speaker 3: where Wokism and historical illiteracy are just running rough shot, yes, and.
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Speaker 6: They have done for a long time, because of course,
25:25
Speaker 6: the Left has a plan and it is the long
25:29
Speaker 6: march through the institutions, and so they've taken over every
25:34
Speaker 6: single institution, whether it be education, museums, you know, you
25:41
Speaker 6: name it, anything that manages to propagandize a new generation
25:47
Speaker 6: of people of Americans into ideas that are very anti Americans,
25:53
Speaker 6: and also making sure they're ignorant about things like the
25:59
Speaker 6: true toll of communism and the greatness of America and
26:05
Speaker 6: the uniqueness of its founding. And none of that is
26:08
Speaker 6: really taught anymore. The kids don't rally around the flag,
26:12
Speaker 6: and you know, say the pledge of allegiance in the
26:15
Speaker 6: morning has used to be common, and instead they're taught evil,
26:22
Speaker 6: false things about America's past. And you know, and I
26:26
Speaker 6: think Americans are very tolerant and are also very self critical.
26:31
Speaker 6: It's a mark I think that I've noticed about America
26:35
Speaker 6: is that, you know, Americans are just very willing to
26:39
Speaker 6: talk about the negative parts of their past because you know,
26:43
Speaker 6: they're always on a quest for self improvement. But that's
26:46
Speaker 6: been taken to a ridiculous extent where all it is
26:49
Speaker 6: is criticism, and the Smithsonian is a perfect example of that.
26:54
Speaker 6: And honestly, when when the boss of the Smithsonian, this woman,
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Speaker 6: Antia Heartig, was being interviewed in Congress or testifying in
27:06
Speaker 6: Congress last week, just the supercilious arrogance of that woman
27:11
Speaker 6: as she was being questioned, and the fakeness and pretending
27:15
Speaker 6: that she couldn't understand or taking notes.
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Speaker 3: You know, she is an.
27:20
Speaker 6: Ideologue and she's playing out her own white guilt. She's
27:24
Speaker 6: mentioned that, she said that she was brought up in it,
27:29
Speaker 6: or propped up on pillows of privilege and bourgeoisie, and
27:35
Speaker 6: so she's taking that out on the rest of America.
27:39
Speaker 3: I was talking earlier about conservative historians versus liberal historians,
27:43
Speaker 3: and I don't mind if a historian brings a certain
27:46
Speaker 3: personal politics to their trade, but as long as it's
27:50
Speaker 3: not fraudulent, as long as it's not deceptive. And is
27:55
Speaker 3: it humanly possible to ask for truly objective historians to
27:59
Speaker 3: be in all at the Smithsonian. What do we do
28:01
Speaker 3: to fix this?
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Speaker 6: Well, no, because according to Anthiahartig and the Smithsonian, objectivity
28:10
Speaker 6: is white supremacy.
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Speaker 3: Exactly what I forgot.
28:14
Speaker 6: And Brandon Gill was fantastic when he after just quizzed
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Speaker 6: her about that. You know, so are you a white supremacist?
28:21
Speaker 6: You know, do you believe in objectivity? And saw or
28:25
Speaker 6: she knew where it was going, and then she pretended
28:27
Speaker 6: she had no idea when you know there has been
28:30
Speaker 6: I mean back in twenty twenty, I wrote a column
28:33
Speaker 6: about this, the White Supremacy Exhibit, because there was a
28:38
Speaker 6: big scandal about it then and how ridiculous it was.
28:41
Speaker 6: And you know, roll forward six years and nothing's changed.
28:46
Speaker 3: So last thing, let's let's move from Washington where the
28:49
Speaker 3: Smithsonian is to New York where you live if at
28:53
Speaker 3: thirteen block long homeless encampment there on the west side
28:56
Speaker 3: from the from the Hudson Yards up to the entrapid Museum. Mayor,
29:00
Speaker 3: I mean, it's not like New York fell into ruin
29:02
Speaker 3: the day he took the oath. Things are not looking
29:05
Speaker 3: good in your city. Give me sixty seconds on that
29:07
Speaker 3: and we'll call it a day.
29:09
Speaker 6: No, I mean builde Blasio's two terms were absolutely disastrous,
29:14
Speaker 6: and ma'm Dani's come in with a vow to fix everything,
29:19
Speaker 6: but he's not fixing anything. He's making everything ten times worse.
29:24
Speaker 6: You know, even under de Blasia, he didn't have a
29:27
Speaker 6: thirteen block homeless encamp which is growing like topsy. You know,
29:31
Speaker 6: once these things take hold, it's like reverse broken windows
29:35
Speaker 6: theory and all the crime and the prostitution and the
29:39
Speaker 6: abuse of themselves that goes on there. But he's all,
29:44
Speaker 6: you know, live and let live. And yet at the
29:46
Speaker 6: same time he's boasting and threatening and gloating about the
29:52
Speaker 6: taxes that he's putting on the wealthy, who the wealthy
29:56
Speaker 6: are all leaving and this Pierre Chair tax is latest
30:00
Speaker 6: scambit and of course it won't plugged the budget hall,
30:05
Speaker 6: it won't improved any services. And so what will he
30:09
Speaker 6: do next? Will you text there not so rich?
30:11
Speaker 3: And then till then Yeah, Miranda, thank you so much
30:17
Speaker 3: at Miranda Divine on AX. Thanks for the great columns,
30:19
Speaker 3: great books like the Big Guy. Pleasure to talk to
30:21
Speaker 3: you and have a great weekend. Man, thank you greatly
30:23
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30:27
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Speaker 3: I've done a lot of hosting for you over the years.
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Speaker 3: Lately it has not matched up sufficiently. Do I get
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Speaker 3: what a pleasure to hear you and see you. How
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Speaker 7: And I heard you talking with Beck continentally about the
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Speaker 7: movie of the moment. And you know, the Odyssey is
33:57
Speaker 7: a poem that people in California can relate to because personally,
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Speaker 7: I would commute on the four h five and it
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Speaker 7: took me ten years to get home every.
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Speaker 3: Exactly related with Matt Damon. Is that sort of the
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Speaker 3: topical foundation for today's poem? Yes, yeah, we're kind of.
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Speaker 7: I've read all the opinions, both the glowing and the vicious,
34:19
Speaker 7: about the movie based upon the travels of Auditius. While
34:24
Speaker 7: some call it a masterpiece, a cinematic joy, some say
34:28
Speaker 7: it does to Homer what Ulysses did Detroit. Because I
34:32
Speaker 7: haven't seen it yet, I'll have to take the fifth.
34:35
Speaker 7: I'm guessing that it falls somewhere between a hit and
34:39
Speaker 7: a myth. Now, only seven plots exist in all of
34:43
Speaker 7: God's creation, and endless shelves of books are merely recapitulation.
34:47
Speaker 7: Each generation finds a tale which lives because it's true,
34:51
Speaker 7: and molds it to communicate the current point of view.
34:55
Speaker 7: But the thought that I've been having and the one
34:57
Speaker 7: I want to share it warms me to my muses
35:01
Speaker 7: that so many people care. No poet's been the center
35:05
Speaker 7: of what counts as fair or foul since the flames
35:09
Speaker 7: that were ignited reading leaves of grass or howl.
35:13
Speaker 3: And if folks read.
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Speaker 7: The Odyssey that fills my heart with hope in Greek
35:18
Speaker 7: or wrought by Wilson, or by Chapman or by Pope.
35:22
Speaker 7: I'm just your humble poet, but it's nice for me
35:25
Speaker 7: to know we're moved by words.
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Speaker 3: A poor Bard.
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Speaker 7: Wrote three thousand years ago, that's going home on the
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Speaker 7: four or five by tarzaning you home on the.
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Speaker 3: Four five, bringing it literally right home. What better musical, poetic,
35:44
Speaker 3: literally poetic theme could we have than a poet weighing
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Speaker 3: in on poetry. Joe, Thank tarzanajoe dot com, author of it.
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Speaker 3: Only hurts when I rhyme. I have a copy. I
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Speaker 3: you and appreciate it. Very very bad speaking to your appreciation.
35:59
Speaker 3: Thank you, thank you. We sure will. I want to
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Speaker 3: thank Adam and Harley and Danielle. And there's just like
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Speaker 3: one thing that I haven't had a chance to do.
36:06
Speaker 3: I got sixty seconds to do it. So here we are.
36:08
Speaker 3: I was eleven, fifty seven years ago today as the
36:12
Speaker 3: Apollo eleven capsule splashed down in the Pacific, recovered by
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Speaker 3: the USS Hornet, and then visited by a very enthused
36:19
Speaker 3: Richard Nixon, who's just thrilled that things were going so
36:22
Speaker 3: well in America and they would soon turn so not
36:24
Speaker 3: so good. But what an amazing journey, What a life
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Speaker 3: changing moment it was. As Neil and Buzz and Mike
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Speaker 3: came home fifty seven years ago. Today, as you head home,
36:34
Speaker 3: God blessed, Thank you so much. This wonderful country is
36:36
Speaker 3: here for us all to enjoy. Heugh, it'll be back
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Speaker 3: to a joy on Monday. I'm Mark Davis. See you
36:41
Speaker 3: soon right here on Salem News Channel, Salem Radio Network.
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Speaker 3: Be good,