Latest / UFOS & PARANORMAL WITH PRESTON DENNETT / UFOs in Your Hometown Episode Nine
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Hello everyone, my name is Preston Dennett and thank you
- 0:03Speaker 1: for joining me for a new episode of UFOs in
- 0:05Speaker 1: the Paranormal.
- 0:06Speaker 2: Guess what?
- 0:07Speaker 1: It's time for another UFOs Over Your Home Town episode.
- 0:11Speaker 1: I've done a bunch of these already. As you may know,
- 0:14Speaker 1: I put out a challenge some time ago. Name any town,
- 0:17Speaker 1: any city, any location on this planet and I bet
- 0:20Speaker 1: you I can find a UFO encounter there. I've gotten
- 0:24Speaker 1: over 800 responses, covered about 100 of them so far.
- 0:29Speaker 1: And yeah, I'm finding UFOs in all of the locations
- 0:33Speaker 1: you guys have provided. So thanks for being a part
- 0:36Speaker 1: of this. I'm learning so much doing the research for
- 0:40Speaker 1: these cases. This takes a lot of time and research
- 0:44Speaker 1: to do, so I've been putting them out pretty slowly.
- 0:47Speaker 1: But yeah, this is now Episode 9.
- 0:50Speaker 2: The title of this.
- 0:50Speaker 1: Episode is UFOs in Your Hometown, Episode 9.
- 0:56Speaker 2: Pretty excited.
- 0:57Speaker 1: I've got nine new locations coming from all over the planet,
- 1:01Speaker 1: cases reaching back well over a hundred years up to
- 1:03Speaker 1: the present day, and covering not only sightings, but landings,
- 1:09Speaker 1: face-to-face encounters with humanoids, some UFO crash retrievals actually, all
- 1:15Speaker 1: kinds of evidence as well. Electromagnetic effects, physiological effects, animal reactions,
- 1:23Speaker 1: landing traces, Some really wonderful photographic cases as well. So yeah,
- 1:28Speaker 1: a lot of multiple witness cases too. Really interesting cases.
- 1:33Speaker 1: Lots of humanoids in this one. Because I know you
- 1:36Speaker 1: guys love hearing about humanoids encounters. They're my favorite as well.
- 1:40Speaker 1: A few onboard cases as well. So yeah, I think
- 1:44Speaker 1: you'll find this pretty interesting. And the nine locations I
- 1:48Speaker 1: am covering today, provided by you guys, include Katwijik, Holland, Nanjing, China,
- 1:58Speaker 1: the whole country of Pakistan, Quapaw, Oklahoma. You tried to
- 2:03Speaker 1: stump me on that one, but I found some cases. Salinas, California. Boy,
- 2:08Speaker 1: Salinas really delivered. Dubuque, Iowa. Daytona Beach, Florida. Statesville, North Carolina.
- 2:17Speaker 1: And finally, Annandale, New York. So yeah, a lot of locations.
- 2:23Speaker 1: This is going to be a pretty long episode, but
- 2:26Speaker 1: I hope you'll find it really interesting because, man, oh man,
- 2:29Speaker 1: some of the cases in this one are just off
- 2:32Speaker 1: the charts.
- 2:32Speaker 2: Amazing. Let's get started.
- 2:35Speaker 1: The first location I'm covering today is Katwizik, Holland. This
- 2:40Speaker 1: comes from Anna Lowe's. Thank you, Anna Lowe's, for suggesting
- 2:45Speaker 1: this location. Didn't find a whole lot. This is a
- 2:48Speaker 1: pretty small area, about 12 square miles. But I found
- 2:53Speaker 1: two really interesting cases, and one, in fact, does involve
- 2:58Speaker 1: some great photographs.
- 3:01Speaker 2: So I think you'll find it interesting. I certainly hope so.
- 3:04Speaker 1: The first case that I could find in Katwizik, Holland,
- 3:06Speaker 1: occurred on the night of July 8, 2003.
- 3:08Speaker 2: The witness is a.
- 3:09Speaker 1: 63-year-old retired officer from a Dutch sea resort who had
- 3:15Speaker 1: an excellent and very close view of a classic flying saucer.
- 3:20Speaker 1: As she says in her own words, It was 3.30 a.m.
- 3:24Speaker 1: when I saw this strange saucer-shaped object, round and flat,
- 3:28Speaker 1: that looked like a sort of white button with four
- 3:30Speaker 1: dark holes in the middle. Somewhere outside of it, there
- 3:34Speaker 1: were small square lights that didn't emit real light, but
- 3:37Speaker 1: a kind of hazy shine. The object was about 10
- 3:40Speaker 1: meters in diameter, 30 feet, and hovering 6 to 7
- 3:44Speaker 1: meters above my garage, about 20 feet. The object itself
- 3:48Speaker 1: was twirling very fast, like.
- 3:50Speaker 2: A bicycle wheel.
- 3:51Speaker 1: It was striking that the object made the same half
- 3:55Speaker 1: circle over and over again, northwards and then back to
- 3:58Speaker 1: my house. I watched it for quite some time, but
- 4:01Speaker 1: I didn't dare go outside. I opened the window and
- 4:05Speaker 1: found it quite remarkable that I could hear no sound
- 4:08Speaker 1: from such a big object.
- 4:10Speaker 2: About 4.15 a.m., It got.
- 4:12Speaker 1: Lighter outside, and I could merely see the curves of
- 4:16Speaker 1: the object. It became blurry, but still visible. It didn't
- 4:20Speaker 1: fly away, but as it became lighter, the contours of
- 4:24Speaker 1: the object faded until I couldn't see it anymore. So
- 4:28Speaker 1: this sighting clearly impressed the witness deeply. She also reports
- 4:32Speaker 1: something interesting. The day after this encounter, she suffered from
- 4:36Speaker 1: a terrible headache, which she links to this close-up sighting.
- 4:40Speaker 1: The only other case I could find in Katwiczek It
- 4:42Speaker 1: occurred on September 2, 2023, and this was actually posted
- 4:47Speaker 1: on Reddit. This involves two photographs and a very short
- 4:52Speaker 1: video clip. As the person who posted this writes, my
- 4:58Speaker 1: friend spotted this UFO today. He said it flew at
- 5:01Speaker 1: around 300 meters and at a given moment even dropped
- 5:05Speaker 1: in height. He said it couldn't have been a balloon
- 5:08Speaker 1: because of its movements. He said it looked big. It
- 5:11Speaker 1: was very strange to him. So you can see the
- 5:14Speaker 1: photos here. And here also is a very, very short
- 5:18Speaker 1: two-second video clip of a silver-gray roundish object floating just
- 5:24Speaker 1: above the rooftops. You have to be quick to see it.
- 5:26Speaker 1: It's right above the roof, heading downwards and disappearing.
- 5:31Speaker 2: There you go.
- 5:31Speaker 1: I'll admit that two cases is not a lot, Analoze, but...
- 5:36Speaker 1: You didn't stump me. I found some activity there. I
- 5:39Speaker 1: keep saying it. UFOs are seen everywhere on this planet.
- 5:43Speaker 1: That's the whole point of this series of UFOs over
- 5:48Speaker 1: your hometown. No matter where you check, there is a
- 5:52Speaker 1: history of UFO encounters. And that's absolutely true of Nanjing, China.
- 5:59Speaker 1: This was a difficult location to research here in the
- 6:02Speaker 1: United States. I don't have a whole lot of access there.
- 6:05Speaker 1: to reports in China, but I absolutely found some amazing ones,
- 6:10Speaker 1: including ones that go way, way back to 1892, some
- 6:16Speaker 1: current ones, some really interesting photographic cases. So Nanjing, China
- 6:21Speaker 1: was suggested by Alfredo. Alfredo, this is for you. I
- 6:25Speaker 1: found some really cool cases. Nanjing is a big city.
- 6:29Speaker 1: So yeah, this one is really interesting. Nanjing is a
- 6:34Speaker 1: pretty big city, 2,500 miles wide. It's the capital of
- 6:38Speaker 1: the Jiangsu province in China, and it definitely has a
- 6:42Speaker 1: few very interesting cases, including one way back in the 1800s,
- 6:47Speaker 1: September 28, 1892. It's one of the most spectacular sightings here.
- 6:53Speaker 1: It's also one of China's earliest recorded UFO sightings, and
- 6:57Speaker 1: it was memorialized in a painting called Soaring Scarlet Flame
- 7:02Speaker 1: in the Sky. by Wu Yueru, and it shows dozens
- 7:06Speaker 1: of people on the Zouk Bridge staring in wonder up
- 7:09Speaker 1: at a massive glowing object. You can see the painting here.
- 7:13Speaker 1: There's an inscription on it, and I'll just read the inscription.
- 7:17Speaker 1: As the inscription says, At 20.00 on 28 September, a
- 7:23Speaker 1: fireball appeared suddenly in the northern sky of Nanjing. Its
- 7:27Speaker 1: shape resembled a gigantic egg, and it traveled slowly from
- 7:31Speaker 1: east to west. Clearly visible in the night sky, its
- 7:35Speaker 1: color was red, but it had no luster. Hundreds of
- 7:39Speaker 1: civilians stood on the Zouk Bridge, jostling for a good view,
- 7:43Speaker 1: standing on tiptoe, craning their necks upward while the fireball
- 7:47Speaker 1: appeared to float slowly in the air. It lingered for
- 7:51Speaker 1: the duration of a meal, fading little by little into
- 7:55Speaker 1: the distance. Some said it was a meteor, but that
- 7:58Speaker 1: would disappear in an instant. This ball's movement, from its
- 8:02Speaker 1: first appearance in the near sky to its final disappearance
- 8:06Speaker 1: in the distance, was quite sluggish. It cannot have been
- 8:10Speaker 1: a meteor. Others said that it was a lantern kite
- 8:13Speaker 1: that children flew. But the wind was blowing to the
- 8:16Speaker 1: north that night while the object was heading east, so
- 8:20Speaker 1: it cannot have been a lantern kite either. For a while,
- 8:24Speaker 1: everyone nattered, but no one could solve the mystery. None
- 8:27Speaker 1: of the theories made sense. An elderly man said, When
- 8:31Speaker 1: it first arose, there was a slight noise which was
- 8:34Speaker 1: hardly audible, like the buzzing approach of men darting across
- 8:38Speaker 1: the south gate. The sound was so soft that most
- 8:42Speaker 1: people would have missed it. And he added that the
- 8:44Speaker 1: object soared up into the sky from the southern outskirts
- 8:47Speaker 1: of the city. It was so strange. So very interesting.
- 8:52Speaker 1: It's got a lot of elements of modern day sightings.
- 8:55Speaker 1: And there are quite a few modern day sightings, of course,
- 8:58Speaker 1: as well. Here's one from January 14, 1999. It's a
- 9:04Speaker 1: brief but nevertheless interesting account involving a very long, rod-shaped
- 9:10Speaker 1: UFO that reportedly remained in view for four hours. This
- 9:15Speaker 1: would be the longest recorded sighting over Nanjing. It was
- 9:18Speaker 1: described by witnesses as a shiny red object, 10 kilometers high,
- 9:24Speaker 1: very long, moving slowly across the sky over the city,
- 9:28Speaker 1: and gradually fading away. Three years later, November 8, 2002,
- 9:34Speaker 1: another remarkable encounter was witnessed by the pilots of no
- 9:37Speaker 1: less than three separate airlines. The first was by a
- 9:41Speaker 1: Xiamen Airlines pilot who described a light blue object which
- 9:45Speaker 1: hovered past his plane at about 80 kilometers north of Nanjing.
- 9:51Speaker 1: But at the same time, the pilots of a Shandong
- 9:54Speaker 1: airline plane about 120 kilometers away saw what was apparently
- 9:59Speaker 1: the same object, which they described as white-blue and having
- 10:02Speaker 1: the shape of a skateboard. And finally, a third pilot
- 10:06Speaker 1: called the airport control tower in Tonglu, Zhejiang, about 300
- 10:11Speaker 1: kilometers away, to report apparently this same object. The next encounter...
- 10:17Speaker 1: occurred on August 17, 2006, and on this day, a
- 10:22Speaker 1: UFO was allegedly sighted and videotaped over Nanjing, but there are,
- 10:27Speaker 1: of course, some doubts about the authenticity of this video,
- 10:31Speaker 1: which could very well be CGI, but I present it
- 10:35Speaker 1: here for what it's worth. At any rate, it was
- 10:38Speaker 1: about three weeks later, on September 7, 2006, that there
- 10:42Speaker 1: was reportedly a sighting of a V-shaped object over Nanjing. Again,
- 10:46Speaker 1: I was not able to find any first-hand eyewitness testimony
- 10:51Speaker 1: to confirm this. But here is a really interesting case
- 10:55Speaker 1: which occurred on July 22, 2009. It's an excellent and
- 10:59Speaker 1: well-verified photographic case which occurred during the solar eclipse on
- 11:04Speaker 1: that day. As the eclipse passed over Nanjing, China, scientists
- 11:09Speaker 1: at the Purple Mountain Observatory, which you can see here,
- 11:13Speaker 1: observed and filmed a UFO that for a total of
- 11:18Speaker 1: 40 minutes. You can see the photograph here of this
- 11:21Speaker 1: strange object. The director of the observatory, Ji Haisheng, refused
- 11:27Speaker 1: to speculate publicly on the nature or origin of this
- 11:30Speaker 1: object and stopped short of saying it was a UFO,
- 11:34Speaker 1: only that it was unidentified, which I guess is what
- 11:38Speaker 1: a UFO is. As can be seen, UFOs are certainly unidentified.
- 11:41Speaker 1: not unknown in China and are apparently quite popular because
- 11:46Speaker 1: in 2015, an exhibit opened up to the public in
- 11:50Speaker 1: Nanjing showing a life-size model of a UFO which you
- 11:54Speaker 1: can actually go inside and experience what it might be
- 11:57Speaker 1: like to have a ride inside a flying saucer. So
- 12:01Speaker 1: if you ever get to go to Nanjing, that might
- 12:03Speaker 1: be pretty interesting to experience.
- 12:06Speaker 2: How cool is that?
- 12:07Speaker 1: China does take this subject very seriously, and you can
- 12:11Speaker 1: tell that there's a lot of interest in UFOs and extraterrestrials.
- 12:16Speaker 1: It's one of the things I like about this subject
- 12:18Speaker 1: is it's bringing the whole world together. I think pretty
- 12:22Speaker 1: much everyone on this planet now knows what the term
- 12:25Speaker 1: UFO means, and it's really going mainstream, this subject. It's
- 12:31Speaker 1: now being taken much more seriously than it has in
- 12:35Speaker 1: the past. Now we move to a new location. I
- 12:38Speaker 1: was very excited to explore this. Thank you, Khan Asif.
- 12:43Speaker 1: Today I will be exploring the country of Pakistan. You
- 12:49Speaker 1: were really wondering if there were UFO encounters there. I
- 12:52Speaker 1: was almost certain I could find some, and sure enough,
- 12:56Speaker 1: I did. And some really good ones, too. I think
- 12:59Speaker 1: you'll be really impressed at some of these cases. So
- 13:02Speaker 1: thank you, Khan. Let's move forward with UFOs over Pakistan.
- 13:07Speaker 1: Pakistan is actually the fifth most populous country in South
- 13:12Speaker 1: Asia with 240 million people. It contains more than 340,000
- 13:17Speaker 1: square miles and has a very long history going back
- 13:20Speaker 1: well over 8,000 years. Now, a country of this size
- 13:25Speaker 1: should have thousands upon thousands of cases, but it's hard
- 13:29Speaker 1: for someone like me here in the U.S. to find
- 13:31Speaker 1: cases there, But I did find some, and here are
- 13:35Speaker 1: a half dozen pretty solid UFO cases. The earliest I
- 13:39Speaker 1: could find occurred on December 11, 1952.
- 13:43Speaker 2: This case came.
- 13:44Speaker 1: From the Reuters News Service, which writes as follows. Four
- 13:49Speaker 1: flying saucers were reported sailing in formation high over Karachi today.
- 13:55Speaker 1: Witnesses said they saw four translucent white disks trailing smoke.
- 14:00Speaker 1: They said they suddenly shot up vertically, and disappeared. It
- 14:03Speaker 1: was one year later, almost exactly, December 21st, 1953, when
- 14:10Speaker 1: another really interesting case surfaced. This was actually mentioned in
- 14:13Speaker 1: a CIA report. And as the report reads, two brilliant
- 14:18Speaker 1: objects flying at an altitude of more than 4,700 meters
- 14:23Speaker 1: were seen over Peshawar on the night of 21 December.
- 14:28Speaker 1: The objects coming from the southeast and thought to be
- 14:31Speaker 1: flying saucers, disappeared in the direction of Afghanistan. This very
- 14:36Speaker 1: interesting and unusual case comes from Graham W.
- 14:39Speaker 2: Birdsall, a British researcher. It was published in.
- 14:42Speaker 1: UFO Magazine in the May-June 1999 issue. And yes, this
- 14:48Speaker 1: is a very unusual case. This occurred on the afternoon
- 14:52Speaker 1: of March 20, 1955, in the city of Karachi, Pakistan.
- 14:58Speaker 1: There are actually thousands of witnesses to this case, but
- 15:01Speaker 1: the main one is John Parker, a British Air Force officer.
- 15:06Speaker 1: He was flying over the city, into the city with
- 15:09Speaker 1: a number of other officers, and they all saw this
- 15:12Speaker 1: very large kind of bronze-colored craft hovering over the city
- 15:17Speaker 1: at very low level. So they landed, went to the city,
- 15:20Speaker 1: and sure enough, this object was still there and was
- 15:24Speaker 1: hovering quite low, some 300 feet above the ground. So
- 15:28Speaker 1: as they got towards this thing, they realized that there
- 15:31Speaker 1: were thousands of people on the ground looking up at
- 15:34Speaker 1: this thing. It was really crowded. People were sitting on
- 15:39Speaker 1: the ground praying. Others were looking up in wonder at
- 15:42Speaker 1: this craft. So they joined the crowd, walked about 60
- 15:47Speaker 1: yards away from beneath this disc, which they estimate was
- 15:51Speaker 1: about 150 feet across, two or three stories high. And
- 15:56Speaker 1: now it was hovering only 125 feet off the ground.
- 16:01Speaker 1: This was not your average flying saucer by any means
- 16:04Speaker 1: because they could see what looked like rivets, catwalks and ladders, portholes, aerials.
- 16:11Speaker 1: They saw what looked like a large black hole underneath it.
- 16:15Speaker 1: There was a whooshing sound. There was sort of laser-like
- 16:18Speaker 1: effects coming off of this craft. The craft was swinging
- 16:23Speaker 1: back and forth a little bit. So it looked to
- 16:27Speaker 1: John Parker like it was experiencing engine problems of some kind.
- 16:31Speaker 1: So as he's looking at this, he can see that
- 16:33Speaker 1: there are portholes. And through the portholes, he sees what
- 16:36Speaker 1: looks like the.
- 16:38Speaker 2: Shapes of people.
- 16:39Speaker 1: There was a translucent dome on top. It was lit
- 16:42Speaker 1: up with a pinkish-red light. There were also red, green,
- 16:46Speaker 1: and blue flashing lights inside the dome. And they watched
- 16:50Speaker 1: this for some time. And finally... just left the area
- 16:55Speaker 1: to get a drink. They did not see this object depart.
- 16:57Speaker 1: It was still there when they left. But an amazing case,
- 17:02Speaker 1: which honestly sounds to me like it's probably a human
- 17:06Speaker 1: reverse-engineered craft, but you can certainly make up your own
- 17:09Speaker 1: minds about it.
- 17:10Speaker 2: Quite a few cases, actually.
- 17:12Speaker 1: Here's one from November 9, 1955, two years later. Also
- 17:17Speaker 1: from the Reuters News Service. This involves UFOs over a
- 17:22Speaker 1: Pakistani airport. Coming originally from the Karachi Morning News, the
- 17:27Speaker 1: report reads, Bluish diminutive saucers about 6 inches in diameter
- 17:33Speaker 1: were sighted one night in recently over the Tejgan Airport
- 17:38Speaker 1: in East Pakistan. Engineers of the Pakistan International Airlines and
- 17:44Speaker 1: airport meteorologists said, said the tiny saucers were traveling at
- 17:48Speaker 1: roughly 1,000 miles an hour at a height of about 1,500 feet. Now,
- 17:54Speaker 1: per the newspaper, quote, the saucers were seen for a
- 17:57Speaker 1: total of 17 minutes and lit up the whole airport. Now, obviously,
- 18:02Speaker 1: these disks are larger than 6 inches in diameter. That
- 18:07Speaker 1: would be the apparent size, or they wouldn't be able
- 18:09Speaker 1: to be seen at 1,500 feet altitude. One year later,
- 18:14Speaker 1: July 4, 1956, as reported by the news dispatch from Peshawar,
- 18:19Speaker 1: witnesses described their sighting of a deep red circular object
- 18:24Speaker 1: trailing brilliant sparks in its wake as it moved across
- 18:27Speaker 1: the midnight sky. It was visible for a full two minutes,
- 18:31Speaker 1: at which point it dropped down behind the Khyber Hills.
- 18:35Speaker 1: Here's a very interesting report, which occurred on June 17, 1969,
- 18:38Speaker 1: also from Peshawar. This actually comes from a U.S. Army
- 18:44Speaker 1: intelligence operation in the Army's USA SOU-23 assigned to a
- 18:50Speaker 1: USAF radio research site on a classified mission in the area.
- 18:57Speaker 1: The witness says that it was 11.30 p.m. as he
- 19:01Speaker 1: sat with a co-worker on the patio outside his barracks.
- 19:04Speaker 1: And as he says, and I quote, we noticed out
- 19:08Speaker 1: over the desert three white disks. Other USAF personnel were
- 19:13Speaker 1: also watching them. Some had cameras. There was no sound,
- 19:18Speaker 1: no disturbances from the objects. Complete silence. After several minutes,
- 19:23Speaker 1: the objects shot straight up and out of sight. Again,
- 19:27Speaker 1: no sound. The USAF commander, over the next few days,
- 19:32Speaker 1: asked that no one mention this. It actually took the
- 19:36Speaker 1: witness more than 50 years to break his silence. and
- 19:39Speaker 1: he eventually reported this encounter to NUFARC, the National UFO
- 19:44Speaker 1: Reporting Center. Here's another one from NUFORC, which occurred in
- 19:48Speaker 1: July of 1986 over Rawalpindi. It was around 11.30 a.m.,
- 19:55Speaker 1: a daylight sighting, one morning in early July 1986, that
- 19:59Speaker 1: the witness was playing cricket with some friends when they
- 20:03Speaker 1: all saw eight objects hovering one above the other. They
- 20:08Speaker 1: thought at first that the objects might be kites, but
- 20:11Speaker 1: they didn't look like kites. They were metallic gray in
- 20:14Speaker 1: color and were hovering in place. They continued playing but
- 20:18Speaker 1: keeping an eye on these strange objects when suddenly they
- 20:22Speaker 1: began to move slowly upwards and then very quickly darted
- 20:26Speaker 1: straight up into space. The witness would have reported it,
- 20:31Speaker 1: but as he says, there are no UFO reporting centers
- 20:34Speaker 1: in Pakistan. And it wasn't until he came to live
- 20:37Speaker 1: in the United States and saw all these UFO programs
- 20:40Speaker 1: on TV that he decided to report it. Here's another
- 20:44Speaker 1: case from New Fork. It occurred November 5, 2002. New
- 20:49Speaker 1: Fork has a few dozen reports, mostly of anomalous lights,
- 20:53Speaker 1: but this case rises above the rest and comes from
- 20:56Speaker 1: a Pakistani Air Force pilot who reported his case only
- 21:00Speaker 1: four days after it occurred. He was one pilot of
- 21:04Speaker 1: three Cobra gunship helicopters that were performing maneuvers at night
- 21:09Speaker 1: in the Multan area. As he says, it was a
- 21:13Speaker 1: pitch-dark night when something resembling an illuminated round of artillery
- 21:18Speaker 1: shelves appeared. It was faster than a helicopter, but slower
- 21:22Speaker 1: than an airplane. Its movements were very well-coordinated. The strange
- 21:27Speaker 1: thing was that it didn't have any engines, and its
- 21:30Speaker 1: aerodynamic shape was not like an aircraft, but it was
- 21:34Speaker 1: flying like an aircraft. It was far superior than us,
- 21:38Speaker 1: and was capable of making abrupt changes in altitude and direction.
- 21:43Speaker 1: It was elongated in shape, 15 feet in length, and
- 21:47Speaker 1: it had a dim amber light towards the bottom. So
- 21:51Speaker 1: seeing this, the witness radioed the air traffic controller for
- 21:54Speaker 1: permission to to follow this unknown craft. Permission was granted,
- 21:59Speaker 1: and the witness tried to follow it in his Cobra helicopter,
- 22:03Speaker 1: but as he says, and I quote, it dodged me
- 22:06Speaker 1: in speed and maneuvers, and then it turned towards us
- 22:09Speaker 1: and passed from a distance of 50 feet.
- 22:12Speaker 2: Wow, that's close.
- 22:14Speaker 1: Now, some thought it might be a drone, but as
- 22:17Speaker 1: the witness says, we six pilots who were airborne at
- 22:20Speaker 1: the time know in our hearts that it was nothing
- 22:24Speaker 1: close to an aircraft in shape. I don't know what
- 22:27Speaker 1: it is. I have heard a lot about UFOs, but
- 22:30Speaker 1: I saw it for the first.
- 22:31Speaker 2: Time in my life.
- 22:33Speaker 1: So, so interesting. I know that wasn't a whole lot
- 22:36Speaker 1: of reports. I can almost guarantee you that that is
- 22:39Speaker 1: just the tip of the iceberg. The vast majority of
- 22:42Speaker 1: people don't report their sightings. And in a country like Pakistan,
- 22:47Speaker 1: which as far as I know doesn't have an official
- 22:50Speaker 1: UFO reporting service, well, the vast majority are definitely going
- 22:55Speaker 1: to go unrecorded, unreported, undocumented, uninvestigated, really in any way.
- 23:02Speaker 1: So most of what we know about UFOs, it's really, again,
- 23:06Speaker 1: just the surface. Almost all the information about this is
- 23:10Speaker 1: sliding right under the radar. We just don't hear about it.
- 23:14Speaker 1: But it's definitely changing for the better. and people are, again,
- 23:20Speaker 1: taking the subject much more seriously. So now let's move
- 23:23Speaker 1: to our next location, which is the tiny little town
- 23:26Speaker 1: of Quapaw, Oklahoma. Thank you, TonPro, for suggesting this location.
- 23:34Speaker 1: I was pretty worried. This is a very small town,
- 23:38Speaker 1: about 800 people, so I wasn't sure if I was
- 23:42Speaker 1: going to find anything, but it turns out it's a
- 23:44Speaker 1: pretty interesting place. It has a history of what we
- 23:48Speaker 1: call spook lights or earth lights, which are technically UFOs
- 23:55Speaker 1: in terms of being extraterrestrial craft, but all definitely related.
- 24:00Speaker 1: And I think I found some good cases of actual
- 24:03Speaker 1: UFOs as well.
- 24:04Speaker 2: So yeah, Quapaw, Oklahoma, here we come.
- 24:08Speaker 1: Quapaw is, as I said, a tiny little rural town,
- 24:11Speaker 1: a population of about 800 people, not far from Joplin, Missouri.
- 24:16Speaker 1: It serves as the capital of the Quapaw Native American Nation,
- 24:20Speaker 1: and as it turns out, it's one of several locations
- 24:23Speaker 1: in the United States known for what we.
- 24:25Speaker 2: Call spook lights or earth lights.
- 24:28Speaker 1: Other locations are the Marfa Lights in Marfa, Texas, or
- 24:32Speaker 1: the Brown Mountain Lights in Brown Mountain, North Carolina, and
- 24:35Speaker 1: there are quite a few reports of these earth lights,
- 24:38Speaker 1: which some people categorize as UFOs, but are certainly not E.T.
- 24:43Speaker 1: craft as we would think of them. However, there are
- 24:46Speaker 1: a few impressive cases which could be categorized as a
- 24:49Speaker 1: UFO in Quapaw. One occurred on September 19, 1972. It
- 24:55Speaker 1: was around 5.30 to 6 a.m. George McWatters looked outside
- 25:01Speaker 1: the kitchen window of his farmhouse and noticed a brilliant
- 25:04Speaker 1: light over the Devil's Promenade area. And as George says,
- 25:09Speaker 1: it seemed to be coming up over the river, and
- 25:12Speaker 1: it was a bright blue-white light. At first I thought
- 25:14Speaker 1: it might be some sort of reflection off the river,
- 25:17Speaker 1: and I went to another room to drink a cup
- 25:19Speaker 1: of coffee. When I came back to the kitchen, though,
- 25:22Speaker 1: I saw it had moved to the east and was
- 25:24Speaker 1: getting brighter. So as he watched it grow brighter and
- 25:28Speaker 1: move towards the east, he woke up his wife to
- 25:30Speaker 1: take a look. And as he says, it was the
- 25:34Speaker 1: oddest color, sort of a bluish green and white, and
- 25:37Speaker 1: too bright to look at directly for very long. As
- 25:40Speaker 1: his wife says, It was bigger than any star I've
- 25:44Speaker 1: ever seen. So they watched it for about an hour,
- 25:47Speaker 1: when two more lights appeared. They were the same strange color,
- 25:51Speaker 1: but dimmer and to the south, and as Mrs. McWatters says,
- 25:56Speaker 1: we could see all three together. Then the two smaller
- 25:58Speaker 1: ones vanished. So they continued watching the big one when,
- 26:02Speaker 1: as George says, it seemed to be hanging there about
- 26:06Speaker 1: six to ten miles away, and it got very bright
- 26:09Speaker 1: before it disappeared. Phone calls to the Joplin Airport revealed
- 26:13Speaker 1: that no weather balloon or aircraft were known to be
- 26:16Speaker 1: in that area at that time. Now, here is a
- 26:20Speaker 1: less ambiguous report, which occurred on April 9, 2006, and
- 26:25Speaker 1: seems to involve a solid craft. It was reported by
- 26:28Speaker 1: the witness to New Fork, who said that he was
- 26:31Speaker 1: heading south through Quapaw when he saw this UFO. As
- 26:35Speaker 1: he says, I saw one silver cigar-shaped object hovering in
- 26:40Speaker 1: the sky. I thought to myself, what the heck is that?
- 26:45Speaker 1: And before I was able to finish the thought, it
- 26:47Speaker 1: took off from the east to the west faster than
- 26:50Speaker 1: anything could possibly go. There was no vapor trail or
- 26:54Speaker 1: anything left to indicate what propulsion it used. Definitely sounds
- 26:59Speaker 1: like a classic UFO. Here's another one that's pretty interesting.
- 27:03Speaker 1: November 6, 2014. As the witness says, while driving home tonight...
- 27:09Speaker 1: we saw a super bright white light with blinking blue
- 27:13Speaker 1: and reddish lights moving in different directions above the tree line.
- 27:17Speaker 1: We thought it could be a helicopter, but got closer,
- 27:20Speaker 1: and it was circular and made a humming sound. So
- 27:24Speaker 1: clearly not a spook light. But I will say reports
- 27:29Speaker 1: of the Quapaw spook light go back more than 100 years,
- 27:33Speaker 1: usually involving a glowing ball of light seen bouncing around
- 27:37Speaker 1: in different areas. And many people have taken photographs of these,
- 27:41Speaker 1: as you can see here. People come here from all
- 27:44Speaker 1: over the world to the best alleged viewing spot along
- 27:48Speaker 1: East 50 Road near the Missouri state line to view
- 27:52Speaker 1: this light. One witness is Raymond Barnett, who lives in
- 27:56Speaker 1: the area and said he and his friends saw it
- 27:58Speaker 1: and that the light came right up to his car.
- 28:01Speaker 1: As he says, it scared the devil out of me.
- 28:04Speaker 1: It got right on the car hood and it looked
- 28:07Speaker 1: like daylight out there. It just looked like a ball
- 28:09Speaker 1: of fire that came out of nowhere, then all at
- 28:12Speaker 1: once disappeared. Another witness is Tom Jackson of Joplin, Missouri, who,
- 28:18Speaker 1: in 1993, thinking that the reports of the spook light
- 28:22Speaker 1: were bogus, went to visit the area on Halloween night
- 28:26Speaker 1: and got a very close-up view. As he says, I
- 28:29Speaker 1: remember it started out at the end of the road,
- 28:33Speaker 1: got about 10 yards from the car, and then shot back.
- 28:37Speaker 1: It looked like it was going to shoot into my truck.
- 28:40Speaker 1: I think that's the scariest thing I've ever seen. I
- 28:43Speaker 1: screamed so loud I probably woke up every person in
- 28:46Speaker 1: 20 miles. You couldn't pay me enough to go out
- 28:49Speaker 1: there again. I don't know what that is or what
- 28:52Speaker 1: causes it, but there's no way. That's out of this world.
- 28:57Speaker 1: So again, it's been photographed on many occasions and theories
- 29:01Speaker 1: range from ghosts of soldiers... to the wandering spirits of
- 29:05Speaker 1: two young cuapa lovers who, forbidden to marry, took their
- 29:09Speaker 1: own lives, to reflecting headlights from distant cars, flashlights, campfires,
- 29:15Speaker 1: all kinds of theories, and it doesn't appear to be
- 29:17Speaker 1: any of those. It certainly can't be headlights, as the
- 29:21Speaker 1: reports go well back before the invention of the automobile. Now,
- 29:25Speaker 1: the area is known to be rich in minerals, silica, calcium, magnesium,
- 29:30Speaker 1: other minerals, which more than likely is the cause of
- 29:33Speaker 1: the phenomena of earth lights in this area and in
- 29:36Speaker 1: many other areas across the United States and the world. Very,
- 29:40Speaker 1: very interesting. And I think I might do an episode
- 29:43Speaker 1: on just spook lights because again, they're seen all over
- 29:47Speaker 1: the world, not just in the United States. Hesedalen, Norway,
- 29:51Speaker 1: for example, is another really good example of an area
- 29:55Speaker 1: where these strange lights are being seen. But yeah, It
- 29:59Speaker 1: appears that UFOs have been seen over Quapaw, Oklahoma as well.
- 30:05Speaker 1: So thank you very much, Tom Crow. I truly appreciate
- 30:09Speaker 1: the suggestion, and I hope you found that segment interesting.
- 30:13Speaker 1: Now we move to another location, Salinas, California.
- 30:18Speaker 2: I've been there. It's a beautiful place. It's not a.
- 30:21Speaker 1: Huge, huge city, but boy, oh boy, did I find
- 30:24Speaker 1: some amazing cases. A lot of them, actually. This location
- 30:29Speaker 1: was suggested by three of you people out there. So
- 30:33Speaker 1: that includes Jovan Lopez, Raul, Duke, and Jaime. So three
- 30:40Speaker 1: of you out there. Thanks, guys, for suggesting this location.
- 30:44Speaker 1: I learned a lot on this one. This one was
- 30:46Speaker 1: really interesting. And I have to tell you, a couple
- 30:49Speaker 1: cases in this city are unlike anything I have heard
- 30:54Speaker 1: before and are super fascinating and so unusual. And yeah,
- 30:59Speaker 1: an apparent crash retrieval as well, which I found super fascinating.
- 31:05Speaker 1: So yeah, this was probably my favorite location in terms
- 31:09Speaker 1: of UFO history in this particular episode. So I think
- 31:12Speaker 1: you'll find it pretty interesting as well. Thank you, Jovan.
- 31:16Speaker 1: Thank you, Raul. Thank you, Jaime. Let's explore the history
- 31:21Speaker 1: of UFOs over Salinas. This amazing report from June 1945
- 31:26Speaker 1: definitely shows that our military knows more about UFOs than
- 31:31Speaker 1: they're saying. It comes from a man whose father had
- 31:34Speaker 1: a very interesting confession regarding an experience he had while
- 31:38Speaker 1: working at Salinas Army Air Base. Says the witness, and
- 31:43Speaker 1: I quote, My father, Lilbert L. Doss, was mustered out
- 31:48Speaker 1: of the Air Force and trains to home were scarce.
- 31:52Speaker 1: In his free two weeks before leaving California, he chose
- 31:56Speaker 1: to visit Salinas Air Force Base. After visiting friends there,
- 32:00Speaker 1: he accidentally wandered into a restricted area. In a large
- 32:05Speaker 1: hangar labeled Top Secret, he observed and examined three flying disks.
- 32:13Speaker 1: All had USAF markings and tripod landing gear. No obvious
- 32:18Speaker 1: method of propulsion could be found.
- 32:20Speaker 2: He was arrested.
- 32:22Speaker 1: Interrogated, and forced to sign a secrecy agreement. Some of
- 32:26Speaker 1: this was done at pistol point. He deeply resented being
- 32:30Speaker 1: treated that way by his government, and he told me
- 32:34Speaker 1: of this incident before he died in 1990. He said,
- 32:36Speaker 1: And I will agree that definitely some are ours, but
- 32:39Speaker 1: I'm absolutely convinced most of them are E.T., Consider this
- 32:51Speaker 1: one from summer of 1947. This very unusual case of
- 32:57Speaker 1: an apparent UFO crash retrieval comes from MUFON Western Regional
- 33:01Speaker 1: Director Paul Cerny, a well-respected researcher. This case took place
- 33:07Speaker 1: on a farm outside of Salinas on a summer morning
- 33:11Speaker 1: in 1947, July or August, really close to the same
- 33:15Speaker 1: time as Roswell. The main witness today is He's a
- 33:19Speaker 1: successful businessman. He was 19 years old at the time
- 33:23Speaker 1: of this encounter. He and his fellow workers were cutting
- 33:27Speaker 1: hay when the ranch foreman told them that a strange
- 33:30Speaker 1: object had come down in a nearby cabbage field and
- 33:33Speaker 1: it was still there. So curious, the witness and his
- 33:37Speaker 1: co-worker went to go see this object and sure enough,
- 33:41Speaker 1: it was still in the field. Keeping their distance from it,
- 33:44Speaker 1: they cautiously approached and began to walk around it. They
- 33:48Speaker 1: could see that this object was a large metallic disc,
- 33:52Speaker 1: nine feet in diameter, four feet high, made of a
- 33:56Speaker 1: dull gray metal. There were small rectangular portholes around the
- 34:00Speaker 1: rim of the craft. Otherwise, there were no markings, no
- 34:04Speaker 1: evidence of any damage, nor was there any.
- 34:07Speaker 2: Visible means of propulsion.
- 34:10Speaker 1: So his curiosity growing, the witness finally mustered up the
- 34:14Speaker 1: courage to run forward and quickly kick it with his foot.
- 34:18Speaker 1: There was no reaction other than a hollow metallic clang.
- 34:22Speaker 1: And around that time, the U.S. Air Force arrived on
- 34:24Speaker 1: the scene in a truck with a long flatbed attached
- 34:28Speaker 1: and a contingent of officers. And as researcher Paul Cerny writes,
- 34:33Speaker 1: they instructed the two men to, quote, get lost and
- 34:37Speaker 1: warned them not to breathe a word about what they
- 34:39Speaker 1: had seen. Now, from a distance, the witness and his
- 34:43Speaker 1: companions observed the military group proceed to struggle this metallic
- 34:48Speaker 1: disc onto the truck bed, cover it up with a tarp,
- 34:52Speaker 1: secure it, and drive off. And that was the last
- 34:55Speaker 1: they saw or heard of it. They did inquire of
- 34:58Speaker 1: the foreman later, and they learned that the ranch owners
- 35:01Speaker 1: had informed the military authorities of the object's presence. In
- 35:06Speaker 1: March 11, 1950, there was a little mini-wave over Salinas.
- 35:11Speaker 1: It started around 8 p.m. when more than 20 residents
- 35:14Speaker 1: of Salinas called the local police department to report an
- 35:18Speaker 1: unidentified flying object over the city. Others called the local newspaper.
- 35:23Speaker 1: The first to call the police was a lady by
- 35:25Speaker 1: the name of Constance Rogwinden. She was driving her car
- 35:29Speaker 1: with her two children and her mother when she saw
- 35:32Speaker 1: what she first thought was a shooting star. She immediately
- 35:35Speaker 1: changed her mind, however, when the object, quote, swooped down
- 35:39Speaker 1: right over her automobile. As she says, So yeah, she
- 36:07Speaker 1: said that this object performed loops over her vehicle then
- 36:10Speaker 1: sped off to the south at very high speed. And
- 36:13Speaker 1: as she says, I'm still scared. It was a weird experience.
- 36:17Speaker 1: I was frightened. I hope I never see anything like
- 36:20Speaker 1: that again. Now the next call to the police came
- 36:24Speaker 1: only five minutes later. It was from Hiram S. Don,
- 36:28Speaker 1: the owner of a Chinese market, who said that he
- 36:31Speaker 1: saw it when he left the store to take some
- 36:32Speaker 1: groceries to his car. He said it was bright, shaped
- 36:36Speaker 1: like an egg, and moving so fast that it had
- 36:38Speaker 1: a trail behind it. It was real close to the ground,
- 36:42Speaker 1: he said. A third witness said it looked like a
- 36:44Speaker 1: shooting star, but, quote, not quite the same. These reports
- 36:48Speaker 1: reached astronomer Olin J. Eggen at the nearby Lick Observatory,
- 36:54Speaker 1: and he speculated that the object may have been a meteor,
- 36:58Speaker 1: apparently unaware of or ignoring the details of the first-hand witnesses,
- 37:02Speaker 1: which absolutely contradict this explanation. This could not have been
- 37:07Speaker 1: a meteor. And in fact, in support of the above case,
- 37:10Speaker 1: is another one which occurred two days later on March 13, 1950,
- 37:15Speaker 1: when Mr. Potter, the head engineer of a factory in Salinas,
- 37:20Speaker 1: and four of his co-workers were on the loading dock
- 37:23Speaker 1: busy at work when a shiny potato-shaped object appeared overhead.
- 37:28Speaker 2: It looked to Mr.
- 37:29Speaker 1: Potter like it was just pulling out of a dive
- 37:32Speaker 1: when he first noticed it. It darted off real quickly,
- 37:36Speaker 1: but impressed him enough to call the local sheriff. The
- 37:39Speaker 1: sheriff called the Civil Aviation Authority, who said that they
- 37:43Speaker 1: knew of no aircraft in the vicinity.
- 37:45Speaker 2: Mr.
- 37:46Speaker 1: Potter was interviewed by reporters, and he said that his
- 37:49Speaker 1: co-workers ridiculed him mercilessly, but he refused to back down,
- 37:53Speaker 1: saying he saw something, but stopped short of saying it
- 37:57Speaker 1: was a genuine flying saucer. It was just two years later,
- 38:01Speaker 1: December 12, 1952, a cold morning just before noon, when
- 38:06Speaker 1: a work crew at the Spreckles Sugar Plant noticed a
- 38:10Speaker 1: glowing object moving overhead. Among the witnesses was Virgil Wallace,
- 38:16Speaker 1: who said that it had the appearance and size of, quote,
- 38:19Speaker 1: an automobile headlight. It turned out that other people in
- 38:22Speaker 1: town saw it too and said that it passed over
- 38:25Speaker 1: Salinas towards the south and was observed hovering for about
- 38:29Speaker 1: seven minutes over Mount Toro. As they watched, a military aircraft,
- 38:34Speaker 1: apparently from Fort Ord, was seen approaching the craft, which
- 38:38Speaker 1: scared it off. There was apparently no follow-up investigation, but
- 38:43Speaker 1: decades later, this sighting continued to cause interest. There's almost
- 38:47Speaker 1: no information about this next case, which occurred on April 6, 1967,
- 38:53Speaker 1: which is unfortunate because it sounds like a good one.
- 38:56Speaker 1: It was about 8.45 p.m. when a couple in Salinas
- 39:00Speaker 1: said that they saw a red disc with windows flying
- 39:04Speaker 1: at low altitude over the city. That's all the information
- 39:08Speaker 1: I could find. But here is another case which involves humanoids.
- 39:14Speaker 1: This occurred in March 1972, and it comes from New Fork.
- 39:18Speaker 1: As the witness says, My sighting took place in the
- 39:22Speaker 1: early 70s in Salinas. I think I was about 15
- 39:26Speaker 1: or so. It was late and I didn't feel like
- 39:28Speaker 1: going to bed, so I decided to do some stargazing.
- 39:32Speaker 1: I grabbed a soda and tossed a folding chaise lounge
- 39:35Speaker 1: chair up onto the garage roof to lay back on,
- 39:38Speaker 1: and after being up there for a short time, I
- 39:41Speaker 1: noticed movement in the eastern sky. It was not a
- 39:44Speaker 1: moving point of light that I saw, but rather an
- 39:47Speaker 1: area of stars being blocked out by a huge object
- 39:51Speaker 1: moving slowly across the night sky. At first I thought
- 39:54Speaker 1: it was a blimp, but quickly dismissed this when I
- 39:57Speaker 1: realized that it was much too large. The best way
- 40:00Speaker 1: to describe this object is to say that it looked
- 40:02Speaker 1: much like a naval battleship turned upside down, only a
- 40:06Speaker 1: little more rounded at the ends. It displayed no lights
- 40:10Speaker 1: of its own, but I was able to observe the
- 40:12Speaker 1: underside as it had become dimly lit by the city lights.
- 40:16Speaker 1: The thing that was really weird about this craft is
- 40:19Speaker 1: was the fact that it moved in total silence. At
- 40:23Speaker 1: one point, it was no more than 500 feet, almost
- 40:26Speaker 1: directly above me. I heard nothing from it. The object
- 40:30Speaker 1: continued moving slowly in a westerly direction towards the ocean
- 40:34Speaker 1: and disappeared from sight. I'm 42 years old, married 18 years,
- 40:39Speaker 1: and the.
- 40:39Speaker 2: Father of six.
- 40:41Speaker 1: Up until now, the only people I've told of this
- 40:43Speaker 1: were my parents, my wife and kids, and my best friend. Now,
- 40:48Speaker 1: I'm not saying that I've ever been abducted, but when
- 40:51Speaker 1: I think back, there were some pretty weird things that
- 40:54Speaker 1: happened to me during my childhood. I can remember being
- 40:57Speaker 1: scared in the middle of the night and getting out
- 40:59Speaker 1: of bed. I remember looking down the darkened hallway and
- 41:03Speaker 1: seeing a small figure backlit at the end of the hall.
- 41:07Speaker 1: I remember the figure appeared startled. I didn't recall anything
- 41:11Speaker 1: after that and dismissed it as a dream. Another time,
- 41:14Speaker 1: I woke up in the middle of the night to
- 41:16Speaker 1: see a small hooded figure kneeling by my bed. When
- 41:20Speaker 1: I moved, the figure stood up, was wearing a long
- 41:23Speaker 1: hooded robe, much like what a monk would wear. In
- 41:27Speaker 1: the darkness, I could not see a face. That really
- 41:30Speaker 1: freaked me out. I snatched the covers up over my head,
- 41:33Speaker 1: and the next morning I asked my parents if either
- 41:36Speaker 1: of them had checked on me during the night. They
- 41:40Speaker 1: said they had not. My mom said that maybe it
- 41:42Speaker 1: was an angel, so that's what I told myself to
- 41:45Speaker 1: keep sane as I grew up. The last thing I'd
- 41:48Speaker 1: like to mention about my childhood is a small metallic
- 41:51Speaker 1: object I noticed under the skin of my outer thigh.
- 41:55Speaker 1: I say it was metallic, as it was just under
- 41:57Speaker 1: the skin to the point where I could tell it
- 41:59Speaker 1: was a gray metal color. I don't remember how it
- 42:03Speaker 1: got there. I remember telling my friends that it was
- 42:06Speaker 1: there from getting shot with a pellet gun, and that
- 42:08Speaker 1: the pellet was still there, although in fact, I was
- 42:12Speaker 1: never shot. The small thing is gone now, and there
- 42:15Speaker 1: is no scar. A rare case of a possible UFO
- 42:19Speaker 1: crash landing occurred on February 27, 1968 in Salinas. It
- 42:24Speaker 1: was 7.10 p.m. as air traffic controllers Richard Lockwood and
- 42:29Speaker 1: his partner Bev Taylor were at the Salinas airport tower.
- 42:34Speaker 1: Suddenly Bev called out, What the hell is that? And
- 42:38Speaker 1: as Richard says, I jumped out of the chair. And
- 42:41Speaker 1: it was a, this sounds dumb, it was a big
- 42:44Speaker 1: green ball. It appeared to Richard that this object was
- 42:48Speaker 1: about three miles away, just 200 feet above the ground,
- 42:53Speaker 1: and it was crossing the runway at such high speed
- 42:56Speaker 1: that it disappeared in about three seconds. Now a plane
- 42:59Speaker 1: was about to take off, so Richard asked the pilot
- 43:02Speaker 1: to fly over the area where this object had gone,
- 43:05Speaker 1: but the pilot didn't see anything. As it turns out,
- 43:09Speaker 1: there were three people near Alisal High School, one mile
- 43:13Speaker 1: north of the airport, around the same time, and they
- 43:17Speaker 1: described what was apparently the same object. They said it
- 43:20Speaker 1: had four, quote, very, very large green lights surrounded by
- 43:24Speaker 1: a solid mass of green. They said it appeared to
- 43:27Speaker 1: crash land somewhere between the high school and the airport,
- 43:31Speaker 1: though they heard nothing and saw no explosions. The police
- 43:35Speaker 1: were informed, and Police Lieutenant Ray Jackson headed a five-square-mile
- 43:41Speaker 1: search of the area, checking with Geiger counters, infrared devices,
- 43:45Speaker 1: and fire trucks with searchlights. Nothing was found. There was
- 43:50Speaker 1: an interesting aftermath, though, when the nearby Fort Ord was
- 43:54Speaker 1: contacted about the sighting, and they said that the objects
- 43:58Speaker 1: were probably flares, and that they would agree to do
- 44:01Speaker 1: a public display of flares to establish this theory. And
- 44:04Speaker 1: in fact, public affairs officer Don English told reporters, It
- 44:10Speaker 1: is a definite go. It will be done. It will
- 44:13Speaker 1: depend somewhat on the weather, but it will be done.
- 44:16Speaker 1: Needless to say, it was not done. Or if it was,
- 44:19Speaker 1: there was zero publicity about it, which would have been
- 44:22Speaker 1: the whole point. Meanwhile, sightings in Salinas continued, including one
- 44:27Speaker 1: just a few months later. was June 1978, and this
- 44:33Speaker 1: one involves apparent missing time. As the witness says, I
- 44:37Speaker 1: was only seven years old when I had a strange experience.
- 44:41Speaker 1: This is what I remember. I was playing Little League
- 44:44Speaker 1: softball and a home run was hit. I jumped on
- 44:47Speaker 1: my bike and ridden to a wooded area where I
- 44:50Speaker 1: saw the ball fly into. I got off my bike
- 44:53Speaker 1: and went looking for the ball in the woods. After
- 44:56Speaker 1: entering the woods, I remember a bright light shining through
- 44:59Speaker 1: the trees and an awful smell like burnt rubber or sulfur.
- 45:04Speaker 1: After that, I remember I was laying on the ground
- 45:06Speaker 1: looking at the sky with my hands across my chest
- 45:10Speaker 1: and the softball in my hands. I don't remember finding
- 45:13Speaker 1: the softball, so I don't have any idea how I
- 45:16Speaker 1: ended up with it. I guess I passed out from
- 45:19Speaker 1: the smell, and then someone or something put the ball
- 45:23Speaker 1: in my hands. So that's all the information in that case.
- 45:26Speaker 1: It's certainly interesting because there was another sighting around that time.
- 45:30Speaker 1: This one occurred on June 11, 1978, and it's an
- 45:34Speaker 1: impressive multiple sighting by five young boys, including Don Ogawa,
- 45:39Speaker 1: Bill Backus, Tim Price, Randy Moger, and Brian Klassmeyer. They
- 45:45Speaker 1: were all between the ages of 10 and 14. It
- 45:48Speaker 1: was around 1.20 p.m., and the boys were in the
- 45:51Speaker 1: Pine Canyon area, when Bill Backus was the first to
- 45:55Speaker 1: point out a weird shiny bright white object in the sky.
- 46:00Speaker 1: As Don Ogawa later told reporters, We thought it was
- 46:04Speaker 1: a jet at first. There was no smoke, no sound.
- 46:08Speaker 1: It looked like a big wedge. So this object was
- 46:11Speaker 1: flying a straight level course, but then it disappeared behind
- 46:15Speaker 1: a hill. It reappeared and then darted straight up. This
- 46:19Speaker 1: is what really impressed the witnesses. As Don says, it was, quote,
- 46:23Speaker 1: really hauling. So seeing all of this, all the boys
- 46:27Speaker 1: were convinced that this was a genuine UFO. Here's another case,
- 46:32Speaker 1: still in June of 1978. Two or three weeks later,
- 46:36Speaker 1: June 30th, this is a rare case of a UFO
- 46:39Speaker 1: landing with actual landing traces. As the witness says, I
- 46:44Speaker 1: was outside playing with my dog, and it flew over
- 46:47Speaker 1: my street, Toro Boulevard, towards the school.
- 46:49Speaker 2: Down the road.
- 46:51Speaker 1: I ran in, told my mom, and we walked together
- 46:54Speaker 1: down to the school. The whole time my dog was
- 46:57Speaker 1: going nuts. I remember I could barely hold him. When
- 47:01Speaker 1: we got there, it was gone, but it left a
- 47:03Speaker 1: burnt smell, and apparently where it landed, it left a
- 47:07Speaker 1: ring around the school field where it landed. I remember
- 47:10Speaker 1: it clearly. The ring was incredibly big, meaning the craft
- 47:14Speaker 1: was big. Guessing the size now 40 years later, I'd
- 47:18Speaker 1: say it was 100 feet in diameter. It was a
- 47:21Speaker 1: perfect circle, and it was still warm to the touch.
- 47:25Speaker 1: When it flew over, it had blue to greenish lights
- 47:28Speaker 1: underneath it. And thinking about it now, because I was young,
- 47:32Speaker 1: it could have been its propulsion emitting the colors. It
- 47:36Speaker 1: was only above the roofs of the houses by about
- 47:38Speaker 1: 20 feet, if that. It was close enough you could
- 47:41Speaker 1: hear it. For lack of a better word, it sounded
- 47:44Speaker 1: like a metallic whistle. Hard to explain. And more people
- 47:48Speaker 1: than me had seen it that day. I remember people
- 47:52Speaker 1: standing in the street looking at the direction of the school,
- 47:56Speaker 1: and there was actually a Salinas newspaper clipping that my
- 47:59Speaker 1: mom saved for years talking about this UFO sighting. Many
- 48:03Speaker 1: people had seen it that day, but I don't see
- 48:06Speaker 1: any mention of it anywhere now. It must have been real,
- 48:10Speaker 1: otherwise we would see media on the sighting. It can
- 48:12Speaker 1: be hidden from the people, but I know what I saw,
- 48:16Speaker 1: and I will never forget it. I could not find
- 48:19Speaker 1: this newspaper clipping, but certainly an interesting report, and one
- 48:23Speaker 1: of many.
- 48:24Speaker 2: Get this one.
- 48:25Speaker 1: This is so interesting. This occurred on August 10, 1981.
- 48:29Speaker 1: It's a very bizarre case involving three witnesses. It was
- 48:34Speaker 1: approaching evening that night, and they decided to get some
- 48:37Speaker 1: parts at the local auto shop store in Salinas. And
- 48:41Speaker 1: as the witness says, As we approached the turn to
- 48:45Speaker 1: the intersection... we saw some strange lights that were going
- 48:48Speaker 1: through some mid-sized camphor trees. We thought it was some
- 48:52Speaker 1: carnival at the school. As soon as we made the
- 48:55Speaker 1: turn on the intersection, my son's eyes were as big
- 48:58Speaker 1: as large olives, and he said, Dad, we have finally
- 49:03Speaker 1: seen one.
- 49:04Speaker 2: I knew what he meant.
- 49:06Speaker 1: I decided to park right below it, and we could
- 49:08Speaker 1: see it. It was aluminum-like, and it had a row
- 49:11Speaker 1: of windows on the bottom half and a complete circle
- 49:14Speaker 1: of windows on top, with a blue light always rotating
- 49:19Speaker 1: i told my son to check the bottom and i
- 49:20Speaker 1: would check the top the bottom windows were like frosted
- 49:24Speaker 1: and we couldn't see anything inside it was there hovering
- 49:28Speaker 1: about 10 to 15 degrees front down it was just
- 49:32Speaker 1: as clear as observing a plane at the airport Now
- 49:35Speaker 1: when all of this happened, the object changed to a
- 49:38Speaker 1: rotating platform with rotating yellow letter signs about 7 feet long.
- 49:44Speaker 1: It was garbled at first, but it started going around
- 49:47Speaker 1: with English letters telling us to tell the world. We
- 49:52Speaker 1: decided not to tell anyone as we might look and
- 49:55Speaker 1: sound like fools. My son, my wife, my two girls
- 49:59Speaker 1: and I talked about it for years. And the lights
- 50:02Speaker 1: were coherent lighting of different colors. not just any lights.
- 50:08Speaker 1: The bottom was covered with antenna-like sticks and also a
- 50:11Speaker 1: lot of lights. Now the final strange thing is that
- 50:14Speaker 1: it took them about 20 minutes to get back from
- 50:16Speaker 1: the store, but this store is only one mile away,
- 50:20Speaker 1: so there's a possibility there was missing time. Here's another
- 50:24Speaker 1: very interesting case from Salinas, August 25, 2002. This sounds
- 50:30Speaker 1: like a sighting, but apparently there are deeper levels of contact.
- 50:34Speaker 1: The witness is anonymous. He reported his sighting to Newfork.
- 50:38Speaker 1: He says, I was driving home from Salinas Valley to
- 50:41Speaker 1: Chualar when I saw an egg-shaped object that glowed baby
- 50:45Speaker 1: blue in the dark open sky.
- 50:48Speaker 2: I was in the back roads.
- 50:49Speaker 1: The object didn't look that high from the sky, maybe
- 50:52Speaker 1: a quarter mile high when I first saw the object.
- 50:55Speaker 1: Somehow I was so into the beautiful light that I
- 50:58Speaker 1: don't even remember how I stopped in the side of
- 51:01Speaker 1: the road with my car turned off. I got really
- 51:04Speaker 1: scared because I didn't know what had happened. Some way
- 51:09Speaker 1: or somehow, while I was looking at the object, I
- 51:12Speaker 1: received some type of input, input that I would rather
- 51:16Speaker 1: talk about in person. But I swear to God that
- 51:19Speaker 1: I am not joking around. I now know the truth,
- 51:23Speaker 1: and I know it's time to let everybody know why
- 51:26Speaker 1: we are here and how we got here. Certainly an
- 51:29Speaker 1: intriguing report. Here's a very interesting case involving an apparent
- 51:33Speaker 1: crop circle. This occurred on December 30, 2013, when two
- 51:38Speaker 1: young men were driving outside of Salinas and saw weird
- 51:42Speaker 1: green flashes of.
- 51:43Speaker 2: Light in a field.
- 51:45Speaker 1: They quickly pulled out their camera and captured some videotape
- 51:48Speaker 1: of this. You can actually see the pictures here. They
- 51:53Speaker 1: posted this on YouTube anonymously. They could not explain it,
- 51:58Speaker 1: and it was quite brief. But boy, were they shocked
- 52:00Speaker 1: to find out the next day that a mysterious and
- 52:03Speaker 1: large crop circle had appeared in apparently this exact location
- 52:08Speaker 1: where they had seen the lights. And this crop circle
- 52:11Speaker 1: attracted so much attention that the farmer who owned the
- 52:14Speaker 1: property had to hire security guards to keep people out. Weirdly,
- 52:20Speaker 1: this crop circle was plowed over shortly after it was discovered,
- 52:25Speaker 1: but not before a photographer by the name of Julie
- 52:28Speaker 1: Beilanger flew over it in a helicopter, and took several
- 52:32Speaker 1: photos of it.
- 52:33Speaker 2: You can see it here.
- 52:34Speaker 1: It's beautiful, clearly meaningful, and in fact an expert in braille,
- 52:40Speaker 1: so that the center of the circle displays the number
- 52:42Speaker 1: 192 repeated several times. What this means is hard to say.
- 52:47Speaker 1: It does look like a computer chip. Several people noticed this,
- 52:53Speaker 1: and it was shortly after this that the NVIDIA Corporation,
- 52:57Speaker 1: who makes computer chips, so that they did it, and
- 53:00Speaker 1: it was actually a publicity stunt. I don't know. I mean,
- 53:04Speaker 1: I tend to believe this explanation, but there's still some
- 53:08Speaker 1: questions about all this, because there's no word on how
- 53:11Speaker 1: they made this crop circle, why nobody saw them making it,
- 53:16Speaker 1: what those green lights were, did the farmer allow it,
- 53:20Speaker 1: was he a part of it, and if it was
- 53:23Speaker 1: a publicity stunt, why was it so quickly plowed over?
- 53:26Speaker 1: So there are still lots of questions surrounding this, but
- 53:30Speaker 1: it's certainly an interesting event that got a lot of
- 53:33Speaker 1: publicity in Salinas at that time. Here's another case. February 2014.
- 53:39Speaker 1: This comes from a young couple, a law student and
- 53:41Speaker 1: a construction worker, and another couple, a mechanic and his
- 53:45Speaker 1: retired wife. As the law student says, it was approximately
- 53:49Speaker 1: 5 a.m. I noticed a very large, very bright light
- 53:52Speaker 1: outside my window. I looked at it with my naked
- 53:55Speaker 1: eye for about 10 minutes and observed that the light
- 53:58Speaker 1: was staying in one place without moving. I went and
- 54:01Speaker 1: got my boyfriend. He suggested that we get my binoculars
- 54:05Speaker 1: and look at the light with them. What we saw
- 54:07Speaker 1: was so clear through the binoculars that we both had
- 54:10Speaker 1: to sit down for a minute out of pure shock.
- 54:14Speaker 1: It was a saucer-shaped craft, more like an egg laying
- 54:17Speaker 1: on its side. There were windows all across the center
- 54:20Speaker 1: of the craft where the light was shining through. The
- 54:23Speaker 1: light was super bright and white or yellowish in color.
- 54:26Speaker 1: The craft appeared to be brown or grayish in color.
- 54:29Speaker 1: We both took turns watching it for over two hours
- 54:32Speaker 1: during which time the sun came up over the horizon
- 54:35Speaker 1: and the craft did not move from the one spot
- 54:38Speaker 1: except very slightly coming closer to us and then going
- 54:41Speaker 1: back to its original position. I tried to film it
- 54:44Speaker 1: on my cell phone but my camera on my phone
- 54:47Speaker 1: was not able to zoom in enough to get a
- 54:49Speaker 1: clear image. We both watched the craft change shape before
- 54:53Speaker 1: our eyes into some sort of leaf-like shape, and then
- 54:56Speaker 1: ever so slowly it moved directly up into the sky
- 54:59Speaker 1: until it was a small bright light too high up
- 55:01Speaker 1: to identify anymore. But the most amazing part of this
- 55:05Speaker 1: thing is that we have now seen it every morning
- 55:08Speaker 1: for seven days in a row. So they're very much
- 55:12Speaker 1: convinced that this is not a planet or a star
- 55:14Speaker 1: because they watched the stars move past this craft while
- 55:18Speaker 1: it remained stationary. They also saw several planes come within
- 55:22Speaker 1: range of this craft, but fly right by it. And
- 55:26Speaker 1: compared to the planes, this object was huge. They said
- 55:29Speaker 1: about 50 times the size of this plane. And they
- 55:33Speaker 1: did get two other witnesses. They brought over a really
- 55:36Speaker 1: good camera, and they're trying to videotape it, and that's
- 55:40Speaker 1: the last I could find on this case. One final
- 55:44Speaker 1: case from Salinas occurred on April 5, 2019. A woman
- 55:49Speaker 1: who lives high on a hilltop in Salinas, surrounded by
- 55:51Speaker 1: eight acres, said that she had a humanoid encounter. She
- 55:56Speaker 1: said she woke up in her bedroom to see something
- 55:59Speaker 1: highly unusual. And she says, This orb of bright white light,
- 56:04Speaker 1: it had eyes, and a slit that represented a mouth.
- 56:07Speaker 1: It was approximately 18 inches from my face. It illuminated
- 56:11Speaker 1: my face as it seemed to assess me while I
- 56:14Speaker 1: was trying to assess it. I remember thinking, did someone
- 56:18Speaker 1: break into our house and is in the bedroom? The
- 56:21Speaker 1: door was closed, and this orb did not have a body,
- 56:24Speaker 1: nor did I see any hair. It appeared to have
- 56:27Speaker 1: somewhat of a face. The eyes were staring through me,
- 56:31Speaker 1: and it was not a friendly gaze. I remember being frightened. However,
- 56:35Speaker 1: I could not break my gaze. Then it disappeared. Now
- 56:39Speaker 1: her husband was there. He never woke up. Her dogs
- 56:42Speaker 1: were in the other room and did not react in
- 56:44Speaker 1: any way. How amazing is that? I mean, Salinas has everything.
- 56:50Speaker 1: UFO crash retrievals, landing cases, humanoids, a UFO basically putting
- 56:56Speaker 1: out a sign for the witnesses. That case was really strange.
- 57:01Speaker 1: Super interesting. It's amazing how many cases there are when
- 57:05Speaker 1: you consider that most go unreported. Salinas is definitely, there
- 57:11Speaker 1: must be something about that area that is attracting UFOs,
- 57:14Speaker 1: because that's a A lot of cases for a town
- 57:17Speaker 1: of that size. Now let's move to the next location
- 57:21Speaker 1: of Dubuque, Iowa. Got to thank Coley Weber for suggesting this.
- 57:28Speaker 1: Thank you, Coley. Really appreciate it. We've spoken several times.
- 57:33Speaker 1: I hope you find this interesting because some of the
- 57:36Speaker 1: cases I found here, wow. I mean, there was one
- 57:40Speaker 1: guy who had missing time, but some really, really interesting
- 57:43Speaker 1: cases here. of all different types, as we'll see. Here
- 57:48Speaker 1: we go, exploring Dubuque, Iowa. Dubuque definitely has some crazy
- 57:53Speaker 1: UFO cases, such as this one, which occurred way back
- 57:56Speaker 1: in 1880. I'm not sure that this is UFO-related, but
- 58:00Speaker 1: it is somewhat interesting because it involves strange humanoids. It's
- 58:05Speaker 1: a wild case involving supernatural beings and was published in
- 58:09Speaker 1: 1880 in the Cleveland, Ohio, Plains Dealer newspaper. and it
- 58:14Speaker 1: involves a young girl who went to, quote, live with
- 58:16Speaker 1: the fairies. So this story comes from a Dubuque farmer
- 58:19Speaker 1: by the name of Andy Crow, whose teenage daughter Kitty
- 58:23Speaker 1: had become deathly ill. Doctors couldn't heal her, so he
- 58:27Speaker 1: took her to Father Bernard of the New Mallory Monastery,
- 58:32Speaker 1: who had a reputation for psychic healing. Now, after seeing
- 58:36Speaker 1: the father, the daughter Kitty said he couldn't help her
- 58:39Speaker 1: and that she was going to leave home.
- 58:41Speaker 2: For a year and go live with the fairies.
- 58:43Speaker 1: Now her father, Andy Crow, dismissed this as just a
- 58:46Speaker 1: child's imagination and forgot about it until one morning a
- 58:50Speaker 1: year later, he went to his daughter's room to wake
- 58:52Speaker 1: her up and she was gone. Police were called, a
- 58:55Speaker 1: search ensued, but no trace of her could be found.
- 58:59Speaker 1: So suspicions began to fall on Andy Crow, her father,
- 59:03Speaker 1: but one year later she returned. And she said that
- 59:06Speaker 1: she had in fact been living with the fairies, riding
- 59:09Speaker 1: in their enclosures, vehicles, living in style. Everyone rejoiced. A
- 59:14Speaker 1: feast was held to celebrate her return. She shared her
- 59:16Speaker 1: story with everyone. But going to visit her sister later,
- 59:21Speaker 1: Mary Ann Hayes, she told her that the fairies had
- 59:25Speaker 1: returned for her and that she would be leaving immediately.
- 59:29Speaker 1: So her sister followed her upstairs and saw two strange-looking
- 59:33Speaker 1: men dressed in weird, dark clothes. So Kitty Crow left
- 59:38Speaker 1: with the two men, alarmed. Miss Anne Hayes followed and
- 59:43Speaker 1: watched them walk up the street a few blocks and just, boom,
- 59:47Speaker 1: disappeared into thin air. And Kitty Crow was never seen again.
- 59:52Speaker 1: While this does sound like a wild story, apparently these
- 59:55Speaker 1: people did exist. And author Chris Woodyard said, traced the
- 59:59Speaker 1: story and confirmed that this family was a real family
- 1:00:03Speaker 1: and that Kitty Crow allegedly did disappear. There was a
- 1:00:06Speaker 1: monastery in the area. He confirmed a number of the
- 1:00:10Speaker 1: facts of this story, so I don't know. It remains
- 1:00:13Speaker 1: a mystery. It was on July 4, 1947, that Lewis
- 1:00:17Speaker 1: and Olga Korn of 879 Rush Street reported seeing UFOs.
- 1:00:22Speaker 1: But it was Olga's sighting two weeks later on July
- 1:00:26Speaker 1: 17 that made the local newspaper. because on that day
- 1:00:29Speaker 1: she said that she saw six identical-looking objects hovering for
- 1:00:34Speaker 1: about an hour over the Mississippi River. She said they
- 1:00:37Speaker 1: appeared to be oval-shaped, two feet long, one foot wide,
- 1:00:41Speaker 1: and as she says, quote, deeper than a saucer, more
- 1:00:45Speaker 1: like a shallow cup with a broken handle. Strangest of
- 1:00:48Speaker 1: all was that they appeared to be somewhat vaporous, kind
- 1:00:51Speaker 1: of like a cloud, and floated gently through the air
- 1:00:55Speaker 1: before finally disappearing. Of course, at that time, there was
- 1:00:59Speaker 1: a huge super wave of sightings sweeping across the country,
- 1:01:03Speaker 1: including the Kenneth Arnold sighting in Mount Rainier, and just
- 1:01:06Speaker 1: days earlier, the Roswell UFO crash in New Mexico. The
- 1:01:11Speaker 1: next sighting to get any attention comes from Morton P. Paradise,
- 1:01:15Speaker 1: who had a very interesting encounter. He wrote it up
- 1:01:18Speaker 1: for the local newspaper. As he says, on the night
- 1:01:22Speaker 1: of December 22nd, this is 1952, Wednesday, at approximately 7.30 p.m.,
- 1:01:29Speaker 1: I was traveling in an easterly direction on Route 151
- 1:01:32Speaker 1: between Cedar Rapids and Dubuque, Iowa. Suddenly, to my left,
- 1:01:37Speaker 1: but ahead of me, I spied a bright, luminous green
- 1:01:41Speaker 1: light in the sky. My first impression was that there
- 1:01:44Speaker 1: had been a collision of two airplanes in the sky.
- 1:01:47Speaker 1: Then I noticed that the light didn't waver or move,
- 1:01:50Speaker 1: and I discovered that it seemed to be hovering and pulsating,
- 1:01:53Speaker 1: getting dimmer and brighter. It lost some of its brilliance
- 1:01:57Speaker 1: and got brighter, so bright that I could scarcely keep
- 1:02:00Speaker 1: my eyes on it. It had no definite shape, but
- 1:02:03Speaker 1: seemed like its edges were ragged, and it was a slant.
- 1:02:07Speaker 1: So you can see his drawing here. And as he says,
- 1:02:11Speaker 1: By this time the hair on the back of my
- 1:02:13Speaker 1: head was standing up. I swerved off of the road
- 1:02:16Speaker 1: and brought my car to a complete stop and turned
- 1:02:18Speaker 1: off my lights so that I could see better. I
- 1:02:21Speaker 1: got out of my car. The light was still there,
- 1:02:24Speaker 1: pulsating luminously. Within three to five seconds after I got
- 1:02:27Speaker 1: out of my car, it seemed to rise straight up
- 1:02:30Speaker 1: and disappear right in front of my eyes. That's all
- 1:02:33Speaker 1: there is to the story. I was all alone on
- 1:02:35Speaker 1: the highway at the time. When I got to the
- 1:02:38Speaker 1: nearest phone, I called the local paper and asked if
- 1:02:40Speaker 1: there was an Army Air Force base nearby.
- 1:02:43Speaker 2: They said no.
- 1:02:45Speaker 1: So I went to the office of the paper, the
- 1:02:47Speaker 1: Dubuque Telegraph, and I gave my story to the night editor.
- 1:02:50Speaker 1: His name is Mr. Fred Lawler. I'm 33 years old.
- 1:02:54Speaker 1: I served four years in the Army, during which time
- 1:02:57Speaker 1: I served part of the time with anti-aircraft forces. I
- 1:03:01Speaker 1: taught airplane recognition for some time, and I will swear
- 1:03:06Speaker 1: that what I saw was no airplane or airplane flare.
- 1:03:09Speaker 1: I am not looking for publicity. I do not take
- 1:03:12Speaker 1: the liberty of saying that I saw a flying saucer.
- 1:03:15Speaker 1: I wouldn't know what to call this phenomenon. I only
- 1:03:18Speaker 1: know that it was not natural, and I feel that
- 1:03:21Speaker 1: you would like to know about it. Arguably, Dubuque's most
- 1:03:25Speaker 1: famous UFO encounter comes from a pilot by the name
- 1:03:29Speaker 1: of Charles R. Morris. He reported his sighting to Major
- 1:03:33Speaker 1: Robert Friend of Project Blue Book at the Aerospace Technical
- 1:03:37Speaker 1: Intelligence Center at Wright-Patterson Air Force Base. This sighting occurred
- 1:03:42Speaker 1: just before 6 p.m. on March 4, 1960, and as
- 1:03:46Speaker 1: Charles Morris writes, My wife and I at our home...
- 1:03:49Speaker 1: were watching a T-6 aircraft performing at approximately 2,000 feet.
- 1:03:54Speaker 1: This turned out to be a pupil of Mars's when,
- 1:03:58Speaker 1: as Mars says, we saw three brightly colored solid objects
- 1:04:02Speaker 1: in line appearing in the sky traveling north-northeast. We saw
- 1:04:06Speaker 1: them for approximately four minutes, and as they disappeared, they
- 1:04:10Speaker 1: seemed to be climbing very slightly. The objects did not
- 1:04:14Speaker 1: give off smoke or any vapor trail, drop anything, change brightness, shape,
- 1:04:18Speaker 1: or color, did not explode, speed up, or stand still
- 1:04:22Speaker 1: at any time. The objects were sharply outlined. Though Charles
- 1:04:27Speaker 1: added that these objects were in fact saucer-shaped, silver in color,
- 1:04:30Speaker 1: and he guessed about 200 feet long and 60 feet wide.
- 1:04:34Speaker 1: He estimated that they were at about 20,000 feet altitude,
- 1:04:38Speaker 1: moving at around 200 miles per hour. And he did
- 1:04:41Speaker 1: manage to capture them on 8mm color film, about 10
- 1:04:44Speaker 1: to 20 feet of film. which he sent to the
- 1:04:49Speaker 1: Air Force. He said only a small portion of this
- 1:04:51Speaker 1: film actually captured the objects, but the Air Force said
- 1:04:56Speaker 1: they found nothing on the film and returned it back
- 1:04:59Speaker 1: to him. They did do research. They found no evidence
- 1:05:02Speaker 1: of any other aircraft in the area and ultimately called
- 1:05:06Speaker 1: the sighting, quote, unidentified. And as it turns out, there
- 1:05:11Speaker 1: were other witnesses. Another was H.V. Ludovici, his wife and son,
- 1:05:17Speaker 1: who saw the objects.
- 1:05:19Speaker 2: And Mr.
- 1:05:19Speaker 1: Ludovici described them as, quote, three bright metallic objects traveling
- 1:05:24Speaker 1: very slowly, almost floating. They watched the objects for 10 minutes,
- 1:05:28Speaker 1: at which point one seemed to flash at them and
- 1:05:31Speaker 1: give off a puff of smoke. And in fact, more
- 1:05:33Speaker 1: than 20 calls came into the local newspaper reporting these objects.
- 1:05:39Speaker 1: So a lot of people were very much impressed by this.
- 1:05:42Speaker 1: At least two of the witnesses, Ferdinand Nessler and Alan A.
- 1:05:45Speaker 2: Jones, said that.
- 1:05:46Speaker 1: They used binoculars and believed the objects were airplanes. But
- 1:05:50Speaker 1: further checks with the military and local airports showed no
- 1:05:53Speaker 1: planes in the area. And Charles Morris, he's a trained
- 1:05:57Speaker 1: pilot and a flight instructor, said he'd never seen anything
- 1:06:01Speaker 1: like these objects in all of his years of flying.
- 1:06:04Speaker 1: This very interesting and close-up sighting occurred around 6.30 p.m.
- 1:06:09Speaker 1: on October 12, 1967, when two children at the home
- 1:06:13Speaker 1: of Richard Lamour were in the outside yard at a
- 1:06:16Speaker 1: picnic table when they said they saw a, quote, silver-colored
- 1:06:21Speaker 1: egg-shaped object. They said it moved overhead at very low altitude.
- 1:06:26Speaker 1: After speaking with the adults, they estimated that this object
- 1:06:29Speaker 1: was an estimated 10 feet long, 5 feet across, and
- 1:06:33Speaker 1: 50 feet high. And in fact, it appeared to be
- 1:06:36Speaker 1: coming in for a landing. That's how low it was.
- 1:06:39Speaker 1: And the children could see what looked like landing gear
- 1:06:41Speaker 1: hanging down beneath it. When the children jumped up to
- 1:06:45Speaker 1: watch it, this object immediately moved upwards and moved to
- 1:06:48Speaker 1: the north. They tried to chase it, but were unable
- 1:06:51Speaker 1: to keep up with it. And unknown to these witnesses,
- 1:06:55Speaker 1: it turns out they're neighbors.
- 1:06:57Speaker 2: The John R.
- 1:06:57Speaker 1: Wallachi family also observed this object. Ms. Wallachi was watching
- 1:07:02Speaker 1: her five children... aged 2 through 10, through the window
- 1:07:06Speaker 1: in the yard when suddenly she saw, quote, the children's
- 1:07:10Speaker 1: eyes get as big as half dollars. She ran outside
- 1:07:14Speaker 1: to see what they were looking at, but this object
- 1:07:16Speaker 1: had gone, and the children described an object that, quote,
- 1:07:20Speaker 1: had a small dome on the top and a thing
- 1:07:23Speaker 1: coming out the back. Pretty amazing sighting. Case after case
- 1:07:27Speaker 1: in Dubuque. Here's another one, August 22nd through 23rd, 1972.
- 1:07:34Speaker 1: This comes from the Dubuque Telegraph Herald reporter John McCormick.
- 1:07:38Speaker 1: He writes that Brian Downey, age 19, and his girlfriend,
- 1:07:42Speaker 1: soon-to-be wife Kathy Atkins, age 18, you can see them here,
- 1:07:47Speaker 1: were heading home from a date in the early morning
- 1:07:50Speaker 1: hours of August 22, 1972. They had just crested a
- 1:07:54Speaker 1: hill near Flora Park when they noticed a bright orange
- 1:07:58Speaker 1: object in the western sky. Brian said it was flat
- 1:08:01Speaker 1: on the bottom, with a dome on top. They watched
- 1:08:05Speaker 1: it for about 10 seconds when it passed out of view. Kathy,
- 1:08:08Speaker 1: who was driving, quickly backed up the car at the
- 1:08:11Speaker 1: top of the hill to get a second look, but
- 1:08:13Speaker 1: the object was gone. And they said they would not
- 1:08:16Speaker 1: have reported it to the newspaper had they not seen
- 1:08:19Speaker 1: another story in the paper about someone else who described
- 1:08:23Speaker 1: seeing a similar orange UFO at 2.30 a.m. the same
- 1:08:27Speaker 1: morning that they saw the object. And the UFO was
- 1:08:30Speaker 1: back the next night. This time it was 8.30 p.m.
- 1:08:34Speaker 1: August 23rd. Miss Leslie Avery, her brother Clarence Wernimont, Lester Ball,
- 1:08:41Speaker 1: and his wife Lucille were at their home on 6351
- 1:08:45Speaker 1: Asbury Road in Asbury. This is pretty much a part
- 1:08:49Speaker 1: of Dubuque, immediately to the west, and they saw something
- 1:08:53Speaker 1: in the sky they could not explain. It was Lucille
- 1:08:57Speaker 1: who saw it first, and she shouted out, oh my god,
- 1:09:00Speaker 1: what's that? They all looked up in astonishment, and Miss
- 1:09:04Speaker 1: Avery says that this object was, quote, bright, with red, blue,
- 1:09:09Speaker 1: and green lights. They could hear it making a humming noise.
- 1:09:13Speaker 1: It hovered for several minutes, pulsated its lights, and then
- 1:09:17Speaker 1: moved slowly north in a circle before moving off to
- 1:09:20Speaker 1: the south. All the witnesses were convinced it was a UFO.
- 1:09:24Speaker 1: And as Miss Avery says, I can't believe it. From
- 1:09:28Speaker 1: now on, I'm going to watch the sky out there.
- 1:09:31Speaker 2: This sighting got a lot of publicity.
- 1:09:33Speaker 1: April 12, 1977, about 10 p.m., seven teenagers in two
- 1:09:38Speaker 1: separate groups, they were aged 14 to 17, all saw
- 1:09:41Speaker 1: something they couldn't explain. The first group of four was
- 1:09:45Speaker 1: walking down Ann Street.
- 1:09:47Speaker 2: You can see it here.
- 1:09:48Speaker 1: The second group of three was just off the street
- 1:09:51Speaker 1: hunting night crawlers. And suddenly both groups simultaneously noticed something
- 1:09:56Speaker 1: odd traveling southwest over the Mississippi River near US Highway 20.
- 1:10:03Speaker 1: Both groups ran to the end of Ann Street to
- 1:10:05Speaker 1: get a better view. None could see the object itself,
- 1:10:09Speaker 1: just a cluster of lights. Jerry Lanzer and Kenny Birch
- 1:10:13Speaker 1: described seeing three white lights with one red light, which
- 1:10:17Speaker 1: blinked in and out. Jeff Ertel said the same thing,
- 1:10:22Speaker 1: except he said that there were two red lights. Jim
- 1:10:25Speaker 1: Schumacher said that he saw two white lights and a
- 1:10:28Speaker 1: bunch of little red lights in the middle like a circle.
- 1:10:31Speaker 1: And his brother, Greg, said that he saw three lights, red.
- 1:10:36Speaker 2: White, and green.
- 1:10:38Speaker 1: Jeff Pitts remembered only one white light, so none of
- 1:10:42Speaker 1: the witnesses could quite agree on what they saw. They
- 1:10:47Speaker 1: did not think it was a plane. The position of
- 1:10:49Speaker 1: the lights was all wrong. The object was totally silent.
- 1:10:53Speaker 1: It was moving strangely. Jerry Lancer said it was going
- 1:10:58Speaker 1: no faster than 25 miles per hour when he saw it,
- 1:11:02Speaker 1: but Jeff Ertel said it was going fast, like a blur.
- 1:11:06Speaker 2: Then it stopped.
- 1:11:07Speaker 1: Then it went down in steps, or a slope, real gentle-like.
- 1:11:11Speaker 1: Kenny Burch also remembers it stopping completely in midair. So
- 1:11:15Speaker 1: some slightly contradicting testimony, but definitely all the boys are
- 1:11:19Speaker 1: in agreement that what they saw was very unusual. Now
- 1:11:23Speaker 1: Venus has often been blamed for being a UFO, and
- 1:11:26Speaker 1: certainly in some cases this is true, but I'm not
- 1:11:29Speaker 1: so sure that that's the cause of this sighting on
- 1:11:32Speaker 1: February 22, 1982. when a bunch of calls began pouring
- 1:11:38Speaker 1: into the Dubuque police station, radio station, and newspapers reporting a, quote, large, round,
- 1:11:45Speaker 1: bright object reportedly about 1,000 feet above the ground in
- 1:11:49Speaker 1: the eastern sky. The calls began around 4 a.m., and
- 1:11:54Speaker 1: most people insisted upon anonymity, not all. Nancy Tapin of
- 1:11:59Speaker 1: Terrace Heights Mobile Home Park, you can see it here,
- 1:12:02Speaker 1: said that her four-year-old son was woken up by the light.
- 1:12:05Speaker 1: and became terrified because this light was streaming in through
- 1:12:08Speaker 1: his window. Other callers said that this object actually moved
- 1:12:12Speaker 1: and changed in brightness, and calls were coming not only
- 1:12:16Speaker 1: from Dubuque, but from the surrounding areas, so a lot
- 1:12:19Speaker 1: of people thought this was very unusual. Frank Miller, the
- 1:12:23Speaker 1: director of the Heitkamp's planetarium at Loris College nearby, said
- 1:12:28Speaker 1: that what people saw was probably Venus, and as he says,
- 1:12:33Speaker 1: I don't know for sure that these people saw Venus,
- 1:12:36Speaker 1: but that's the first thing that comes to mind. I
- 1:12:39Speaker 1: don't know. It's pretty unusual that, you know, that many
- 1:12:42Speaker 1: people will start calling the newspapers, the sheriff's office, radio
- 1:12:46Speaker 1: stations to report an object in the sky that's quite
- 1:12:49Speaker 1: low unless, you know, this is truly something unusual. Another
- 1:12:53Speaker 1: very interesting case. Apparently, a missing time abduction occurred on
- 1:12:57Speaker 1: October 12, 1996. It was 10.30 a.m., as eight young
- 1:13:04Speaker 1: teenagers were walking through a Dubuque cemetery, likely Linwood, and
- 1:13:09Speaker 1: as the main witness says, there was this eerie feeling
- 1:13:11Speaker 1: I had like someone or something was watching us. My
- 1:13:15Speaker 1: buddy was right next to me, and I turned around
- 1:13:17Speaker 1: and stopped looking at the horizon, and there was this
- 1:13:21Speaker 1: very bright light moving very fast horizontally. And I said
- 1:13:26Speaker 1: to my buddy, hey look, it's a UFO. He started
- 1:13:29Speaker 1: laughing and said it was just a plane or a helicopter,
- 1:13:32Speaker 1: and I said no. The light was solid and had
- 1:13:35Speaker 1: no conventional running lights, and the next thing they knew,
- 1:13:38Speaker 1: this light was right over their heads. The witness's friend
- 1:13:42Speaker 1: grabbed him by the shoulders and yelled that.
- 1:13:44Speaker 2: They had to get out of there.
- 1:13:46Speaker 1: Turned out the others had.
- 1:13:47Speaker 2: Already run away.
- 1:13:48Speaker 1: And as the witness says, I looked up, and the
- 1:13:52Speaker 1: light suddenly became very warm, welcoming almost, like you were
- 1:13:57Speaker 1: being wrapped up in a warm blanket. That's when everything
- 1:14:00Speaker 1: went silent and I couldn't move. That was the last
- 1:14:03Speaker 1: I remember of being in that spot. Fast forward two
- 1:14:07Speaker 1: and a half hours later, I remember hearing my name
- 1:14:10Speaker 1: being yelled by seven people from afar. I opened my eyes,
- 1:14:14Speaker 1: my head was down, so I was looking at the ground,
- 1:14:17Speaker 1: and my hands were in my pockets. I was smiling
- 1:14:20Speaker 1: and laughing as these guys came charging towards me. when
- 1:14:23Speaker 1: they found me in the junior high school football field
- 1:14:27Speaker 1: 200 yards away on the 50-yard line. My cousin was
- 1:14:31Speaker 1: the first one to grab me by my shoulders, and
- 1:14:34Speaker 1: he shook me, asking me where I'd been for the
- 1:14:36Speaker 1: last two and a half hours. We were way past curfew.
- 1:14:40Speaker 1: It was 12.30 a.m. I said I was right here
- 1:14:43Speaker 1: the whole time. So later at home, he did find
- 1:14:47Speaker 1: a strange mark on his pelvis. He realized he had
- 1:14:51Speaker 1: missing time. He now knows what that means and is
- 1:14:54Speaker 1: considering hypnosis. Here's another Dubuque sighting, a very close-up sighting
- 1:14:59Speaker 1: of a solid disc-shaped craft, which occurred on January 3, 2002.
- 1:15:05Speaker 1: As the witness says, the UFO had light blue flashing lights.
- 1:15:09Speaker 1: It was saucer-shaped and had a dome-like top on it,
- 1:15:13Speaker 1: and it acted like it wanted us to stop. What
- 1:15:16Speaker 1: we saw was clearly a UFO. It had flashing lights
- 1:15:20Speaker 1: that were very bright. The lights would flash on for
- 1:15:23Speaker 1: a second and go off for about one and a
- 1:15:25Speaker 1: half to two seconds, and then back on again. It
- 1:15:28Speaker 1: had windows, four or five on the side that we
- 1:15:31Speaker 1: could see. The lights seemed to be coming out of
- 1:15:34Speaker 1: the windows. It came towards us on Highway 61 last
- 1:15:38Speaker 1: Thursday night. Then it seemed to change directions and go
- 1:15:41Speaker 1: the way we were going for a few seconds. It
- 1:15:44Speaker 1: was about 50 feet above us. Finally, it started flying
- 1:15:47Speaker 1: away from us until it disappeared. So we thought. Then
- 1:15:51Speaker 1: I saw the light blue lights again in my rearview mirror,
- 1:15:54Speaker 1: which lasted for about six miles. The lights weren't getting
- 1:15:58Speaker 1: further away from us as we drove on, and by
- 1:16:01Speaker 1: the time we got into the city, it was gone.
- 1:16:04Speaker 2: I used to think.
- 1:16:05Speaker 1: People that believed in aliens and UFOs were insane. Now
- 1:16:09Speaker 1: people think I'm insane when they hear my story, and
- 1:16:12Speaker 1: I had four other people with me too. Oh well,
- 1:16:16Speaker 1: we know what we saw, and no one's going to
- 1:16:19Speaker 1: tell us any different. A final sighting in Dubuque took
- 1:16:23Speaker 1: place on August 18, 2002. This is an interesting one
- 1:16:27Speaker 1: because it involves a UFO that apparently tracked a plane
- 1:16:30Speaker 1: flying just south of Dubuque. A husband and wife were
- 1:16:34Speaker 1: both pilots. One of them is named Marlene and they
- 1:16:38Speaker 1: were descending from 12,000 to 5,000 feet when at about 9,000
- 1:16:40Speaker 1: feet of altitude this UFO appeared.
- 1:16:41Speaker 2: As the wife Marlene says....
- 1:16:47Speaker 1: During the descent at 500 feet per minute at around
- 1:16:51Speaker 1: 140 knots, I looked back behind the right wing and
- 1:16:55Speaker 1: saw a white light between the cloud banks and far
- 1:16:59Speaker 1: in the distance. It appeared to me as a landing
- 1:17:02Speaker 1: light on a plane. It was five or more miles
- 1:17:05Speaker 1: away and almost parallel to us. Within a few seconds,
- 1:17:09Speaker 1: it flew closer at a great rate of speed. As
- 1:17:13Speaker 1: it was the closest to us at 1,500 to 2,000 feet,
- 1:17:18Speaker 1: I could see the bright white light was all it was.
- 1:17:22Speaker 1: There was no wingtip or taillights. There was no wings
- 1:17:25Speaker 1: or body. As the light descended rapidly next to us,
- 1:17:28Speaker 1: it was still a white light from the back. This
- 1:17:31Speaker 1: all happened in a matter of five to six seconds.
- 1:17:34Speaker 1: I felt it was on a collision course with us
- 1:17:36Speaker 1: as we were descending into the same cloud it had
- 1:17:39Speaker 1: disappeared into. So the couple was not informed of any
- 1:17:43Speaker 1: other planes in the area, which they would have been
- 1:17:45Speaker 1: if there had been a plane there. And it couldn't
- 1:17:48Speaker 1: have been a landing light. As the witness says, no
- 1:17:51Speaker 1: planes turned their landing lights on at 9,000 feet. So
- 1:17:55Speaker 1: Marlene and her husband are convinced it was not a meteor,
- 1:17:59Speaker 1: not any conventional craft, but instead a genuine UFO. As
- 1:18:04Speaker 1: Marlene says, the speed and the path of its descent
- 1:18:07Speaker 1: is not possible by any aircraft I am aware of.
- 1:18:11Speaker 1: It had to travel five or six miles in a
- 1:18:13Speaker 1: matter of six seconds. That's one mile a second. I
- 1:18:17Speaker 1: do not think that this was another plane.
- 1:18:19Speaker 2: There you go, Coley.
- 1:18:21Speaker 1: I told you I was sure that I could find
- 1:18:23Speaker 1: cases in Dubuque, and of course I did. Did not
- 1:18:27Speaker 1: expect to find that case involving, what, a ferry kidnapping?
- 1:18:32Speaker 1: I don't know how else to put that. I wonder
- 1:18:34Speaker 1: about that one. I mean, that is a very old case,
- 1:18:38Speaker 1: very hard to research or confirm.
- 1:18:41Speaker 2: So, I don't know. Not sure what to think of it.
- 1:18:44Speaker 2: Is it a story? Is it true events?
- 1:18:47Speaker 1: Hard to say for sure, but certainly intriguing and makes
- 1:18:51Speaker 1: me wonder if it's related to you know UFO experiences
- 1:18:56Speaker 1: in terms of people going on board it's a very
- 1:18:59Speaker 1: odd case but as we see all types of cases
- 1:19:02Speaker 1: are represented in most of these locations and let's move
- 1:19:07Speaker 1: to another one Daytona Beach, Florida. I expected to find
- 1:19:12Speaker 1: more cases than I did. Still, I found quite a few.
- 1:19:16Speaker 1: Some really good cases as well. Some well-documented cases, multiple witness.
- 1:19:22Speaker 1: A couple of really odd ones as well. Got to
- 1:19:26Speaker 1: thank you, Ag Pekal, for suggesting this. I always learn something.
- 1:19:31Speaker 1: It's like not only a geography lesson, but I learn
- 1:19:35Speaker 1: stuff about each of these locations. Another history. I like
- 1:19:40Speaker 1: to dig deep and see what I can figure out
- 1:19:42Speaker 1: as to why these certain locations are attracting UFO activity.
- 1:19:48Speaker 1: But like I said, UFOs are being seen everywhere.
- 1:19:51Speaker 2: They are ubiquitous.
- 1:19:53Speaker 1: I doubt that there's any location on this planet that
- 1:19:56Speaker 1: doesn't have a history of UFO encounters. That's exactly what
- 1:20:00Speaker 1: I'm finding. So yeah, Daytona Beach, Florida.
- 1:20:03Speaker 2: Here we go.
- 1:20:03Speaker 1: I found seven encounters in Daytona Beach. and some really
- 1:20:08Speaker 1: interesting ones, including humanoids. The first occurred on August 29, 1950.
- 1:20:15Speaker 1: This comes from J.E. Salter Jr. of Power Street, and
- 1:20:19Speaker 1: he told the Daytona Beach News that at 5.30 p.m.
- 1:20:23Speaker 1: on August 29, 1950, he and his brother-in-law Ben Bernard
- 1:20:28Speaker 1: observed a disc about the size of a dishpan spinning
- 1:20:32Speaker 1: under a low-hanging cloud. They watched it move into a
- 1:20:36Speaker 1: dark cloud in the western sky, and then come out
- 1:20:38Speaker 1: of the cloud and move to the south. They said
- 1:20:41Speaker 1: it was a very low altitude, and it appeared to
- 1:20:43Speaker 1: be throwing off a phosphorus-type glow. Two years later, another
- 1:20:48Speaker 1: impressive case. The witness in this case is post office
- 1:20:51Speaker 1: clerk J.B. Gormley, who says that around 10 p.m. on
- 1:20:55Speaker 1: January 3, 1952, he saw an object that was half-moon-shaped
- 1:21:01Speaker 1: moving towards the southeast much faster than a jet plane,
- 1:21:05Speaker 1: and yet making no noise. He said it looked to
- 1:21:08Speaker 1: be metallic, maybe about 30 feet across, and quite low,
- 1:21:12Speaker 1: 400 to 500 feet high. He reported it to the
- 1:21:16Speaker 1: Daytona Beach Morning Journal, who did check with the Civil
- 1:21:19Speaker 1: Aviation Authority, who told them that they have no information
- 1:21:24Speaker 1: about this object. So it appears to be unidentified.
- 1:21:29Speaker 2: And there are more.
- 1:21:30Speaker 1: Check out this one. This is really unusual. This one
- 1:21:33Speaker 1: comes from the Florida UFO Study Group. The witness is
- 1:21:37Speaker 1: Kathleen Rand. And one day in the spring of 1957,
- 1:21:42Speaker 1: she had just left the Halifax Hospital in Daytona Beach
- 1:21:47Speaker 1: and was driving along the highway to DeLand when she
- 1:21:50Speaker 1: noticed something, quote, fuzzy. And it was pacing her car.
- 1:21:55Speaker 1: She described this as a thing, a round cloud. She
- 1:21:58Speaker 1: said it had a dark center and and was moving
- 1:22:01Speaker 1: at an estimated 1,000 feet of altitude, and it was
- 1:22:05Speaker 1: following her car. In fact, she says it followed her
- 1:22:08Speaker 1: car for a full 20 minutes, before suddenly making a
- 1:22:11Speaker 1: right turn and moving rapidly away. So clearly not a cloud.
- 1:22:16Speaker 1: This next case got a lot of attention and was
- 1:22:19Speaker 1: investigated by NICAP, the National Investigative Committee on Aerial Phenomena,
- 1:22:24Speaker 1: and it comes from a good witness, a pilot and
- 1:22:26Speaker 1: a photographer by the name of Clarence Browne. He was
- 1:22:29Speaker 1: 27 years old at the time of this sighting. It
- 1:22:32Speaker 1: was the evening of November 11, 1959. He and his
- 1:22:37Speaker 1: friend Doyle Hewitt were in a 170 Cessna flying at 2,000
- 1:22:42Speaker 1: feet near Daytona Beach when a UFO showed up on
- 1:22:46Speaker 1: an apparent collision course. And as Clarence says, I looked
- 1:22:51Speaker 1: out towards the ocean and all at once I saw
- 1:22:53Speaker 1: this light coming. At first I thought it was a jet.
- 1:22:57Speaker 1: It was flying as fast as a jet. But when
- 1:22:59Speaker 1: it turned, it didn't make any noise. And if it
- 1:23:02Speaker 1: had been a jet or another kind of airplane, I
- 1:23:04Speaker 1: would have heard it. It turned about 4,000 feet from me.
- 1:23:09Speaker 1: If it had been an airplane, I would have seen
- 1:23:11Speaker 1: the silhouette in the moonlight. It was as bright when
- 1:23:15Speaker 1: it turned as it came head-on. It was a white light.
- 1:23:19Speaker 1: Not a bright light, not a dim light, just a
- 1:23:21Speaker 1: bright blur. I saw it turn past me, and as
- 1:23:25Speaker 1: it continued south, it disappeared. was just bright blue and
- 1:23:29Speaker 1: it didn't act like it was throwing a beam or
- 1:23:31Speaker 1: anything like that. Now his friend Doyle Hewitt saw it
- 1:23:34Speaker 1: too and turned to Clarence and said, what was that?
- 1:23:38Speaker 1: Clarence said, must have been an airplane. But now he
- 1:23:42Speaker 1: doesn't think so. As he says, I thought it was
- 1:23:45Speaker 1: an airplane at first with nothing but its landing lights on.
- 1:23:48Speaker 1: But if it had been a plane, I would have
- 1:23:50Speaker 1: heard it or seen its silhouette in the sky. I
- 1:23:53Speaker 1: believe there's a logical explanation for it, but I don't
- 1:23:56Speaker 1: know what it is. I've never seen anything like this before.
- 1:24:00Speaker 1: I used to think anybody who saw unidentified flying objects
- 1:24:04Speaker 1: were crazy. Unfortunately, there's very little information about this incredible
- 1:24:09Speaker 1: humanoid case, which was witnessed by Clyde W. Hicks on
- 1:24:14Speaker 1: September 7, 1964. He wrote about his experience in a
- 1:24:18Speaker 1: letter to NICAP. He said it was a foggy night.
- 1:24:22Speaker 1: He was driving towards Daytona Beach when he saw a, quote, spaceship.
- 1:24:27Speaker 1: He said it came drifting out of a fog bank.
- 1:24:29Speaker 1: He said it was egg-shaped and more than 200 feet long.
- 1:24:33Speaker 1: It had two rows of windows, and through the windows
- 1:24:36Speaker 1: he could see at least a dozen, quote, large people
- 1:24:40Speaker 1: moving about. When he first saw the object, it was
- 1:24:43Speaker 1: very bright, or as he says, it looked to be
- 1:24:46Speaker 1: ablaze all over. But when the luminosity went out, he
- 1:24:50Speaker 1: saw that the object appeared to be silvery in the moonlight.
- 1:24:54Speaker 1: He said that he does have a background in aviation,
- 1:24:58Speaker 1: and he is convinced that this object was not a
- 1:25:00Speaker 1: plane or a blimp. This next case comes from UFO
- 1:25:04Speaker 1: researcher Christopher Montgomery of the UFO Group UFORC, or the
- 1:25:09Speaker 1: UFO Resource Center. He's also the author of the book UFOs,
- 1:25:13Speaker 1: A Scientific Inquiry. It was around 8.30 p.m. on February 20, 2008.
- 1:25:19Speaker 1: It was a calm night, and the father and son
- 1:25:22Speaker 1: were at Daytona Beach. when they noticed strange lights performing
- 1:25:26Speaker 1: unusual maneuvers over the ocean. They were glowing green objects,
- 1:25:31Speaker 1: they said, and per the witnesses, the objects were, quote,
- 1:25:34Speaker 1: moving up and down and back and forth. They heard
- 1:25:38Speaker 1: no sound coming from the objects, which they estimated were
- 1:25:41Speaker 1: quite low in the sky, about 200 feet. They watched
- 1:25:45Speaker 1: them for about 20 minutes, but were not able to
- 1:25:48Speaker 1: identify them. The most recent case I could find occurred
- 1:25:51Speaker 1: on April 3, 2023. and it was investigated by Rusty Hester.
- 1:25:57Speaker 1: You can see her here. She's a MUFON field investigator
- 1:26:00Speaker 1: and assistant state director for MUFON Florida and a member
- 1:26:04Speaker 1: of the MUFON Experiencer Resource Team. This case involves three
- 1:26:10Speaker 1: witnesses whose house is about a five-minute drive to the beach.
- 1:26:14Speaker 1: They were outside their house at 8.37 p.m. April 3, 2023,
- 1:26:20Speaker 1: when they saw two unusual objects flying silently through the
- 1:26:24Speaker 1: sky just off the coast. Quickly grabbed his camera and
- 1:26:28Speaker 1: was able to take some pictures. As the witness says,
- 1:26:31Speaker 1: the objects were glowing orange, shaped like a boomerang, going
- 1:26:35Speaker 1: very fast from south to north off the coast of
- 1:26:38Speaker 1: Daytona Beach. The witnesses said the objects flew very close
- 1:26:42Speaker 1: to each other, and they were so disturbed by the
- 1:26:45Speaker 1: sighting that they canceled their plans that night to go
- 1:26:49Speaker 1: fishing in this area. But you can see the pictures here.
- 1:26:53Speaker 1: It's interesting because this is actually a video. This is
- 1:26:56Speaker 1: a still of the video. The video showed that these
- 1:26:58Speaker 1: objects were actually flashing lights, which was something they did
- 1:27:02Speaker 1: not notice while viewing them. Rusty Hester, the investigator, did
- 1:27:05Speaker 1: check the flight paths in the area and couldn't find
- 1:27:08Speaker 1: any aircraft in that area, certainly none that matched what
- 1:27:12Speaker 1: the witnesses saw, and she closed this case as unknown.
- 1:27:16Speaker 2: How interesting was that?
- 1:27:17Speaker 1: I hope you found this Interesting, Ag Pekal, Daytona Beach,
- 1:27:21Speaker 1: has definitely delivered. That last case was pretty impressive, with
- 1:27:26Speaker 1: the photographs of these V-shaped objects. I always love it
- 1:27:30Speaker 1: when people are able to capture photographs of what they've seen,
- 1:27:33Speaker 1: because it's often been said that a picture is worth
- 1:27:36Speaker 1: a thousand words, but when it comes to UFOs, it's
- 1:27:39Speaker 1: worth far more than that. Not only provides confirmation of
- 1:27:44Speaker 1: what a person has seen, but also, you It's almost
- 1:27:48Speaker 1: impossible to describe in words some of these sightings that
- 1:27:51Speaker 1: people are having. And a picture just makes it so
- 1:27:54Speaker 1: much easier to see what other people are seeing. So yeah,
- 1:27:59Speaker 1: another location on this planet that has had encounters. Now
- 1:28:03Speaker 1: let's move to another location, Statesville, North Carolina.
- 1:28:09Speaker 2: This is a.
- 1:28:09Speaker 1: Fairly large city, mid-sized I would say, 30,000 or so people.
- 1:28:15Speaker 1: expected to find a lot more than I did, but
- 1:28:17Speaker 1: I found some really good ones. This one was suggested
- 1:28:21Speaker 1: by Old Marine Mountain and Metals, so thank you very
- 1:28:24Speaker 1: much for the suggestion of this location. North Carolina has
- 1:28:29Speaker 1: got a lot of activity, and Statesville apparently is no exception.
- 1:28:35Speaker 1: With a population of 30,000 in Statesville, North Carolina, I
- 1:28:39Speaker 1: expected to find more cases than I did, but I
- 1:28:41Speaker 1: found two good ones. Here's one which occurred on September
- 1:28:45Speaker 1: of 1955, and this comes from APRO, the Aerial Phenomena
- 1:28:50Speaker 1: Research Organization. The witness is Budita L. Mitchell. She's a
- 1:28:55Speaker 1: trained observer from the Ground Observer Corps Station. on the
- 1:28:58Speaker 1: outskirts of Statesville, North Carolina. And in fact, she had
- 1:29:02Speaker 1: spent the morning there, then came to her home at
- 1:29:05Speaker 1: 709 Colleton Road. This is in Raleigh, some distance to
- 1:29:10Speaker 1: the east, but still quite close to Statesville. And as
- 1:29:13Speaker 1: Budita says, I was in the yard with my binoculars
- 1:29:17Speaker 1: facing southwest. A glint of something shiny caught my eye,
- 1:29:21Speaker 1: and I focused the binoculars on three white or silver
- 1:29:24Speaker 1: craft flying in V formations. but they were not planes.
- 1:29:29Speaker 1: They were circular, in shape. When I first saw them,
- 1:29:33Speaker 1: their size, to the naked eye, was about that of
- 1:29:35Speaker 1: the top of a pencil eraser held at arm's length.
- 1:29:40Speaker 1: I estimated that they were flying at a fairly low
- 1:29:42Speaker 1: rate of speed, at an altitude of about 15,000 feet,
- 1:29:47Speaker 1: moving east to west. I watched fascinated for a minute
- 1:29:51Speaker 1: or two, and suddenly one craft darted ahead of the
- 1:29:54Speaker 1: others in a tremendous burst of speed. then slowed down
- 1:29:58Speaker 1: and waited for the others to catch up. This started
- 1:30:00Speaker 1: a sort of game, evidently. And for another two or
- 1:30:03Speaker 1: three minutes, until they were out of sight, I watched
- 1:30:06Speaker 1: them playing around, almost like lambs or puppies, in the sky.
- 1:30:11Speaker 1: I reported this to my superior in the ground observer
- 1:30:13Speaker 1: corps and told some other members about the sighting, but
- 1:30:17Speaker 1: evidently only my friends believed me. So this was in
- 1:30:22Speaker 1: the direction of Statesville and could very likely have been
- 1:30:24Speaker 1: seen from there. But here's another really dramatic case involving
- 1:30:28Speaker 1: a UFO landing and humanoids in Statesville. This occurred on
- 1:30:33Speaker 1: June 29, 1986, around dusk. The witnesses are a father
- 1:30:41Speaker 1: and son, and they lived on 100 acres of land
- 1:30:43Speaker 1: on a dead-end street, a pretty rural part of Statesville.
- 1:30:48Speaker 1: The son was 12 years old, and they went outside
- 1:30:51Speaker 1: and saw this gigantic craft sitting in their cornfield. And
- 1:30:56Speaker 1: as the witness says, I have thought of this event
- 1:30:59Speaker 1: my whole life. My father and I were standing at
- 1:31:03Speaker 1: the edge of our yard when my dad said, What
- 1:31:06Speaker 1: the hell is that? I looked and saw what was
- 1:31:09Speaker 1: about as tall as a 30-story building just sitting 100
- 1:31:13Speaker 1: yards from us in a cut cornfield. It was about
- 1:31:17Speaker 1: as wide as a football field or so. It had
- 1:31:19Speaker 1: windows running all down the left side like a tall building.
- 1:31:23Speaker 1: I could also see coming out the right side of
- 1:31:26Speaker 1: a cone, shaped like a metallic booster-looking object, like on
- 1:31:30Speaker 1: our space shuttles. It had a little bit of steam
- 1:31:33Speaker 1: coming out of it like it was a vent. I
- 1:31:36Speaker 1: could also see at the top what I swear looked
- 1:31:38Speaker 1: like a head with bull's horns or something, an emblem
- 1:31:41Speaker 1: of some kind. It scared my dad so bad that
- 1:31:44Speaker 1: when I ran towards it to get closer for a
- 1:31:47Speaker 1: better look, he screamed at me to stop and wait
- 1:31:50Speaker 1: for him to go first and see what the hell
- 1:31:52Speaker 1: had landed in our field. He finally caught me and
- 1:31:56Speaker 1: led the way, when all of a sudden it vanished
- 1:31:59Speaker 1: and was gone. We walked back then, but to this
- 1:32:03Speaker 1: day I wish I had gone on out there, because
- 1:32:05Speaker 1: I think still to this day it was still there
- 1:32:09Speaker 1: and just cloaked itself. I swear on my life, and
- 1:32:13Speaker 1: my father would too, that this happened one late evening
- 1:32:16Speaker 1: in the late 1980s, and I have never forgotten it,
- 1:32:20Speaker 1: or been able to explain it. But I feel now
- 1:32:23Speaker 1: for sure after reading about people reporting the same UFO
- 1:32:26Speaker 1: in detail, mine was not just lit up. I could
- 1:32:29Speaker 1: see people in the windows. There you go, old mountain
- 1:32:33Speaker 1: marine in metals. Told you I could find something in Statesville,
- 1:32:36Speaker 1: and I did. How about that last case? I can
- 1:32:39Speaker 1: only imagine what it must be like to see a
- 1:32:41Speaker 1: massive UFO sitting in your yard, or your farm field,
- 1:32:47Speaker 1: and not only seeing this gigantic craft, but looking through
- 1:32:52Speaker 1: the portholes and seeing humanoid forms, wow, amazing. These are
- 1:32:58Speaker 1: events that stick with people for the rest of their lives.
- 1:33:01Speaker 1: You can certainly see why. All right, now we move
- 1:33:05Speaker 1: to our last location in this collection. Thank you for
- 1:33:10Speaker 1: sticking around. Now we explore Annandale, New York. This one
- 1:33:16Speaker 1: was suggested by Becca. This is a quite small neighborhood
- 1:33:20Speaker 1: on Staten Island, covering about 200 plus acres, so I
- 1:33:25Speaker 1: didn't find a lot. But I found at least two
- 1:33:29Speaker 1: really interesting cases, one involving landing traces. So I think
- 1:33:33Speaker 1: you'll find it interesting, Becca. Certainly hope so.
- 1:33:36Speaker 2: Let's go.
- 1:33:36Speaker 1: Annadale is the last location I am exploring in this
- 1:33:41Speaker 1: little episode here. I found just a few cases, two actually.
- 1:33:47Speaker 1: This is a very small neighborhood, 222 acres, and one
- 1:33:52Speaker 1: case I found is quite interesting. This occurred on February 10, 1975.
- 1:33:57Speaker 1: This case comes from NICAP researcher Dennis Anderson and was
- 1:34:02Speaker 1: also presented in Ted Phillips' book about UFO landing trace cases.
- 1:34:07Speaker 1: It was around 7 p.m., again February 10, 1975, when
- 1:34:09Speaker 1: two boys, age 15, were in the forests of Annandale
- 1:34:15Speaker 1: and had just entered a clearing where there was a
- 1:34:17Speaker 1: frozen pond. They were checking the thickness of the ice
- 1:34:21Speaker 1: in hopes of skating on this pond, when suddenly they
- 1:34:24Speaker 1: saw a huge orange glowing ball about 20 feet in
- 1:34:28Speaker 1: diameter hovering about 400 feet away just above some trees
- 1:34:33Speaker 1: near the frozen pond. And as they watched over the
- 1:34:36Speaker 1: next 10 minutes, this glowing sphere compressed into more of
- 1:34:40Speaker 1: a football-shaped, shrunk down then to the size of a
- 1:34:43Speaker 1: basketball and suddenly disappeared. They heard no noise, nor did
- 1:34:48Speaker 1: they feel any heat. Frightened, they fled the area, but
- 1:34:52Speaker 1: it turns out there was, in a way, another witness.
- 1:34:56Speaker 1: Another person was in the area. He didn't see the object,
- 1:35:00Speaker 1: but says that his German shepherd dog reacted very nervously,
- 1:35:04Speaker 1: whining and whimpering at something in the woods in this
- 1:35:07Speaker 1: exact area. And this was a trained attack dog, so
- 1:35:10Speaker 1: this behavior was very unusual. And in fact, the dog
- 1:35:13Speaker 1: not only whined and whimpered, it ran back home in fear.
- 1:35:18Speaker 1: So the boys left the area but returned the next
- 1:35:20Speaker 1: morning to explore it and found that the trees where
- 1:35:23Speaker 1: this object had hovered, ranging in height from 4 to
- 1:35:26Speaker 1: 5 feet, one report says 20 feet, had been sheared
- 1:35:31Speaker 1: off and were coated with what appeared to be a
- 1:35:33Speaker 1: carbon-like substance. Researcher Dennis Anderson went to the scene with
- 1:35:38Speaker 1: the reporter a few days later and confirmed the presence
- 1:35:41Speaker 1: of the broken and burned trees. As he says, What
- 1:35:45Speaker 1: I found was that the trees in the area were
- 1:35:48Speaker 1: knocked down in kind of a radial pattern and that
- 1:35:51Speaker 1: the earth was charred. So samples were taken and analyzed
- 1:35:56Speaker 1: and they confirmed that the wood of the trees was
- 1:35:58Speaker 1: in fact burned and the residue was carbon. Weirdly, the
- 1:36:02Speaker 1: analysis showed that the fire appeared to be oil-based. This
- 1:36:06Speaker 1: was odd considering the eyewitnesses' testimony of seeing this object.
- 1:36:10Speaker 1: And Dennis Anderson, who interviewed the witnesses, says that this
- 1:36:14Speaker 1: definitely was not a hoax and that their witnesses, quote,
- 1:36:18Speaker 1: their honesty and credibility are excellent. As he says, I
- 1:36:23Speaker 1: would say this is our best local UFO sighting. One
- 1:36:27Speaker 1: final case, July 17, 2004. I'll just quote the witness directly.
- 1:36:32Speaker 1: As he says, What I saw was a sphere-shaped craft
- 1:36:36Speaker 1: hovering over my house at nearly 2,500 feet. It did
- 1:36:40Speaker 1: not move at all, and there were two times when
- 1:36:42Speaker 1: it was not visible, then reappeared in the same original location.
- 1:36:47Speaker 1: Although it was a nice day out, the craft appeared
- 1:36:50Speaker 1: to be equipped with luminous white light. This light looked
- 1:36:54Speaker 1: somewhat like neon white or a fluorescent white. My sister
- 1:36:58Speaker 1: was outside with me. And I was pointing over the house,
- 1:37:02Speaker 1: but she was not able to see it because she
- 1:37:04Speaker 1: was seated under the umbrella for shade.
- 1:37:06Speaker 2: From the sun.
- 1:37:07Speaker 1: I said, look at that in the sky. If you
- 1:37:10Speaker 1: see what I'm looking at, you will believe in UFOs.
- 1:37:14Speaker 1: But she did not bother to get up. He did
- 1:37:16Speaker 1: try to record it with his camcorder, but by the
- 1:37:19Speaker 1: time he got it working, this object had moved off. Well, Becca,
- 1:37:23Speaker 1: that's all I could find in Annandale specifically. Quite a
- 1:37:27Speaker 1: few locations in the surrounding areas, but I didn't cover those.
- 1:37:31Speaker 1: And again, I'm sure there are more there. I'm going
- 1:37:34Speaker 1: to be generous and say that 1 in 20 people
- 1:37:38Speaker 1: report their encounters to, say, the police, the Air Force,
- 1:37:42Speaker 1: or a UFO reporting center. But most don't. I've interviewed
- 1:37:46Speaker 1: so many people, and the vast majority said that they've
- 1:37:50Speaker 1: never talked to the police or MUFON or anything like this.
- 1:37:55Speaker 1: So again, most of these cases are going undocumented. And
- 1:37:59Speaker 1: finding this many in all these locations just goes to
- 1:38:03Speaker 1: show you how common UFO encounters are. And you can
- 1:38:07Speaker 1: see the entire range of cases. Sightings, landings, face-to-face encounters
- 1:38:12Speaker 1: with humanoids, on-board experiences, a couple of crash retrievals in
- 1:38:17Speaker 1: this episode. How interesting is that? Certainly it indicates that
- 1:38:22Speaker 1: our government knows far, far more than they're publicly saying.
- 1:38:27Speaker 1: So yeah, that's it for today. nine locations if you
- 1:38:32Speaker 1: want to provide a location for me to look up
- 1:38:35Speaker 1: please feel free to do so but I would caution
- 1:38:38Speaker 1: you that you'll have to be patient because I've still
- 1:38:41Speaker 1: got hundreds of people in line waiting for me to
- 1:38:45Speaker 1: explore the location that they provided I'm working my way
- 1:38:50Speaker 1: down the list. Some of these are quite large locations,
- 1:38:54Speaker 1: which honestly will take me a week just to go
- 1:38:58Speaker 1: through all the documentation. So this is a very difficult
- 1:39:03Speaker 1: research project, but can't say that it's work because I'm
- 1:39:07Speaker 1: having fun doing it. And this series shows once again
- 1:39:15Speaker 1: that UFOs are not only seen everywhere, but that I
- 1:39:19Speaker 1: think ETs are doing a vigorous publicity campaign, sort of
- 1:39:24Speaker 1: grassroots movement to announce their presence, likely because our own
- 1:39:29Speaker 1: governments are covering this subject up and don't want people
- 1:39:34Speaker 1: to know the truth.
- 1:39:35Speaker 2: And ETs are not having it.
- 1:39:37Speaker 1: They're doing all they can to disclose. And in fact,
- 1:39:41Speaker 1: I think the ETs have done their part to disclose.
- 1:39:44Speaker 1: We now have enough cases to say for sure that
- 1:39:47Speaker 1: this is a real thing. And I think anyone who
- 1:39:51Speaker 1: does objective, unbiased research can only come to the conclusion
- 1:39:55Speaker 1: that UFOs are real. My point is the ETs have
- 1:39:59Speaker 1: done their part. The rest is up to us. So
- 1:40:03Speaker 1: that's it. Thank you very much for watching. I truly
- 1:40:07Speaker 1: appreciate it. I hope you enjoyed this episode, maybe learned
- 1:40:09Speaker 1: a little bit. And until next time, keep asking those
- 1:40:13Speaker 1: hard questions, keep searching for the truth, Most important of all,
- 1:40:17Speaker 1: keep having fun, and I will see you next Friday.
- 1:40:20Speaker 1: Bye for now.